Ford 4.6L & 5.4L 3v Engines: Sticking VCT Solenoids Explained P0011 P0012

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FordTechMakuloco

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@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 7 жыл бұрын
I recommend flushing your engine with this kit from BG before changing your VCT solenoids- amzn.to/2nsfvBT
@rachelejohnson1604
@rachelejohnson1604 7 жыл бұрын
I just changed my VCT solenoids...can I still flush with this kit? Will it cause additional problems
@pattywalker7597
@pattywalker7597 6 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco what's your take on cam phaser lockouts, on a 4.6, 3 valve do they decrease hp or throw codes
@pattywalker7597
@pattywalker7597 6 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco please explain cam phaser lockouts, do or not good or bad I'd really appreciate your opinion on this topic. 4.6 3 valve
@haxxorsheep
@haxxorsheep 6 жыл бұрын
I wish you lived by me. I'd pay you to work on my truck. Every shop I go do not fix it or they make worse and charge me way to much.
@gueroflores1467
@gueroflores1467 5 жыл бұрын
FordTechMaculoco will bad vct selenoids cause some kind of bogg to your engine I got the 5.4 3v ..put new timing kit new phasers cams lifters too both sides and it's doing that bogging at 1600rpm or 2000rpm once I push on the gas pedal it will act normal I got no engine codes yet
@newcoyote
@newcoyote 7 жыл бұрын
This is definitely something to look into before doing a full timing and phaser job. My truck was making the same sound and symptoms. I took it to a shop and they said cam phasers. "Oh yup! 100% for sure." and quoted me an absurd $4500. I looked into it more on my own and changed the VCT solenoids myself and presto! Solved. I'm not saying everyone will get lucky and have such an easy fix but it is worth looking at first. Be vigilant and get properly diagnosed before shelling out. There are a lot of unskilled shops out there and dishonest ones.
@DavidJackson-zg5my
@DavidJackson-zg5my 6 жыл бұрын
newcoyote I currently have an issue and I was also thinking of changing the VCT solenoids prior to doing a full timing job. I was wondering what signs and symptoms you were having. I’ve got the classic where everything seems fine until warmup, then a miss develops, rough idle, then under load on the highway a miss is present as well. Codes I’m getting are bank 2 P0345 and sometimes P0349 which are all associated with the cam phasers as you know. Hope to hear back from you...
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it was the phasers, 4,500 is a number they are pulling out of their asses lol. I could buy four 4.6L engines (I drive a mustang) for that money lmao
@josephgarza2586
@josephgarza2586 2 жыл бұрын
Most of em are fucking scumbags str8 thief trash they make me sick
@hunterprice287
@hunterprice287 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidJackson-zg5my what did your issue ended up beingp
@kstevenson186
@kstevenson186 2 жыл бұрын
Was your truck dying when you came to a stop
@MrFafolaktik
@MrFafolaktik 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great explanations as always. Unlike many tubers who just show how to replace parts, you actually help us understand if it needs to be replaced in the first place and how as well. Thank you for all the help. 2008 F250 3v 5.4L owner.
@juanagudelo409
@juanagudelo409 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the same sound that my 2006 F150 5.4L is making. I thought i needed a new engine! Thank you so much for the video! You are a blessing.
@MrMobileAutoService
@MrMobileAutoService 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and information. We did an oil change to one of these engines the other day. Our customer is really good about maintenance and we always add Rislone engine oil treatment to these engines as a safeguard. Even so he had a problem with one of his valves shortly after the LOF. We dispatched a tech to his home with two valves in hand. He's been fine ever since. Only 116,000 miles on the engine. Thanks for your video.
@moneymakin_ro9486
@moneymakin_ro9486 3 жыл бұрын
My 06 mustang gt has been doing that loud knocking noise after driving for 10-15 minunte!! And all of the mechanics kept saying my timing was good! Wow im happy as ever i seen this !
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Жыл бұрын
Yes especially when it's hot cam phasers will make more noise hot, a lot of people don't know about these what the cam phasers and the solenoids that controlling
@siliconvalleyengineer5875
@siliconvalleyengineer5875 3 жыл бұрын
I just change both of my 2009 Expeditions 5.4L VCT solenoids, per your recommendation I installed Ford VCT's. Getting the valve covers off was really a hassle because of all the hoses and electrical in the way. I took the Expedition for a drive after the new installations and it had excellent engine throttle response / power and acceleration. I had to redo the passengers side valve cover gasket, it leaked but now everything is good.
@UserUser14880
@UserUser14880 2 жыл бұрын
Only symptom i have is after battery reconnnect and relearn process. Coming to a stop it down shifts hard and sometimes wants to die. I purchassd vct valve bc i too have a valve cover gasket leak on pass side lol. So if i replace 1 might aswell do both. And while im in there. Change the vct.
@barringtonsmith9147
@barringtonsmith9147 Жыл бұрын
I'm not car savvy but with great vids like this you get to understand why you get a check engine light and a P0011 code
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 6 жыл бұрын
How do you tell the difference between a vehicle that has a bad VCT solenoid compared to one that needs new phasers or timing chain? Do they present in the same way, with different trouble codes?
@grantrose3625
@grantrose3625 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Ford F-150 2006. I be changed the cam sensors and VCT solenoid last year it went smooth for about 2 months. The past it it’s been running rough and dragging when accelerating hard to get too speed. I removed the valve covered and timing cover. One of the guides and tensioner were broke. I changed the timing chain and guides the same way as in you videos but it runs but dies when I slow down. My truck has 202,000km on it.
@thuglivintv824
@thuglivintv824 2 жыл бұрын
Did you fix it?
@_kvngmilton_5522
@_kvngmilton_5522 3 жыл бұрын
You are one of the Most helpful souls on earth I think u just fixed my 3 days of stress I don’t know yet haven’t tried this but I also have another vehicle reply and ile give you the details
@mrfixit9832
@mrfixit9832 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very good! I Disassembled my solenoids and wet sanded the plungers with emery cloth, stretch the spring out so it would be stronger, oiled them and reassembled and runs great now, thank you!!!!
@rodhawkins5037
@rodhawkins5037 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, how's that holding up?
@hoddy2001
@hoddy2001 Жыл бұрын
what's curious to me is that at the point where the VCT gets stuck advanced at 5:37, the sensors are sending VCTADV around 0 and VCTADVERR also around 0. Just prior to that you can see the VCTADVERR walking left and hits the O (out of limit) and then returns to zero. I would have thought the out of limit circle would have remained blue on VCTADVERR. Thanks for all your contributions my man we appreciate you
@HazardWolfCorp
@HazardWolfCorp 2 жыл бұрын
Can this cause a rough idle with NO code but when driving everything seems fine?
@smileyornelassr941
@smileyornelassr941 3 жыл бұрын
Complete Cloyes kit installed plus both cam p-sensors & vvt's: also pulled pan & cleaned out, including tube, changed oil w/Penn 5w20w full syn & filter. Does fine thru test drive until it reaches operating temp, then lacks power & stumbles/rough idle if @ all Codes PO012 & PO022. Any help appreciated. THX
@SamsAutomotiveS
@SamsAutomotiveS 3 жыл бұрын
Heloo there did you find out the issue
@robertrpenny
@robertrpenny Жыл бұрын
Ford should give a free 5.0l engine to everybody that owns 3V junk. And install for free. Them Tritons are nuff to make you loco.
@35ariman
@35ariman 5 ай бұрын
Amen!!! I have an 09 f150 and it runs great but I’ve had to do some work to it
@bobbyhempel1513
@bobbyhempel1513 5 ай бұрын
I've got a 2010 F-150 with the 4.6 3v and it's got over 220,000 miles and just started having this issue. I've heard of worse problems with the 5.0 at less miles.
@Painnazzautorepair
@Painnazzautorepair 3 ай бұрын
Here a free slightly less junk motor to replace the 3v major piece of shtt
@evansisco
@evansisco 21 күн бұрын
They r shit but they also r rly good engines + fast asf once u source there issues 😂
@anadavidf6163
@anadavidf6163 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This video confirmed that my engine does this because it sounds just like this.
@gwzales691
@gwzales691 2 ай бұрын
Being almost a decade old I'm not holding my breath for a reply (lol) BUT... I have a 2008 F-150 5.4L Triton, ~220k miles. Haven't kept the greatest maintenance on it (strictly a work truck) so it's surely gone too long between oil changes on several occasions. I have had phaser knock since I owned the truck. Admittedly, I simply pop it into neutral and rev the engine to reintroduce pressure to the phasers and quiet the rattle. Recently the phasers have gone silent but I've gotten P0012 and P0016 codes, loss of power (bogs down with anything greater than light acceleration) along with a very rough idle/acceleration and rather severe jerking/skipping right before coming to a complete stop. Like the whole block is misfiring. My question is: could a stuck solenoid cause this? As I picture it, with the solenoid stuck open the phaser is constantly receiving adequate pressure and this is why it's no longer audibly an issue. But being starved of oil pressure is causing the other symptoms? I have unplugged that bank's VCT solenoid and it seemed to very mildly mediate the symptoms. On a side note: I've also gotten a cylinder 3 misfire code in the same mix of DTCs but as I understand from your other videos this could be a symptom of the timing codes/is a much lesser concern. Any info from anyone would be greatly appreciated..I'm a carpenter by trade not an engine mechanic 😂
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 8 жыл бұрын
good video. I don't understand how the software is allowing you to see the data of both solenoids with them unplugged. Is the camshaft sensor data what we are actually looking at for the timing values? Thanks
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
+Ozzstar yes
@ChrisCarlsonAntonio
@ChrisCarlsonAntonio 6 ай бұрын
Great content. Thank you! Is it work removing everything else to access and service the housing while I’ve got the valve cover off, or is that unlikely to contribute to the problem?
@hoddy2001
@hoddy2001 Жыл бұрын
another question: with the vct disconnected, what is generating the force to move the valve inside the solenoid against the spring? Normally it is the electromagnetic force from the solenoid that will push it down against the spring, but how is it moving down against the spring on its own? I could see if the spring was completely broken or missing that it could fall down by gravity. Is there oil flow within the vct valve body that moves it?
@reggienoble571
@reggienoble571 7 ай бұрын
When bench testing my original Ford VCT's and new Amazon VCT's neither open very far. I'm applying 12v. You can hear the solenoid actuate, but it just barely moves. In the opening, how far should I see the valve move?
@clmkc5393
@clmkc5393 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Ford Explorer Limited. I needed to replace the Variable Valve Timing Solenoid (VVT). The Solenoid was "stuck" in the housing. I was eventually able to remove the solenoid. However, in doing so, i broke off the flange ear on the VVT housing. This is where the bolt goes in that holds the solenoid in place. I need to purchase a new/used VVT housing bracket. Its a separate piece above the timing chain. Do you know what you call this VVT housing bracket or mount? I cannot find the proper name for the housing and need this to complete the job. Really appreciate any assistance here.
@JLH_LetsPlay
@JLH_LetsPlay Жыл бұрын
After I poured some thick engine treatment into my Edge, I guess it got into the valve and kept it from functioning properly because the engine light came on and it was shaking bad. After I drove it a while it straightened itself out and it runs great now.......no issues.
@andrewwebb507
@andrewwebb507 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had one not run very well after it warms up? I have replaced everything plus the Mel high flow oil pump. I have a scan with HP Tuners from a cold start. When it hits 152° coolant temp, the timing goes crazy. Then stft’s go nuts also.
@GlossyLake
@GlossyLake 6 жыл бұрын
I just replaced all the spark plugs and the truck is running much better than when I bought it with 250,000kms (155,000 miles) on it. I don't have any codes but in Park, Neutral, and while stopped in Drive, the truck idles rough! Anything like this you've experienced? And would replacing the VCT solenoid help?
@madmodsgarage1179
@madmodsgarage1179 5 жыл бұрын
hello! what is the vct solenoid frequency for a 4.6 3v from mustang gt 2005-2009? Engine runs on standalone ecu, I'm trying to run the vct system
@odin0425
@odin0425 4 жыл бұрын
Old video, but new question. I bought a 08 F150 with a V8 Triton engine. When i test drove it, everything was perfect. It drove fine for a few days under normal use. 4 days or so after owning it i was parking it, backing up, pulling forward, normal parking behavior. My engine started shaking badly when stopping, but gaining power again while advancing. I am trying to figure out if it is the VCT solenoid, or the Phasers going out. At normal Idol, i don't really hear any diesel noises. I have also noticed that this only comes up when the engine is up to temp, and that when i disconnect the VCT solenoids the engine purs just fine and there is no real problem. (just a lack of power). So agian, i must ask, is it the phasers or vct solenoid? Second question, If i leave the solenoid disconnected will i end up damaging the phasers, or timing system? This is my first "real" vehicle so im getting nervous about it. I've always just drove junky cars that would last a few years before i bought a new one. This one I actually have several thousand dollars to pay off. Any help from anyone would be apriciated.
@443red
@443red 4 жыл бұрын
How did you make out with your 08 f150?
@443red
@443red 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is doing the same thing with a code P0012,I am going to replace the vvt solenoid
@odin0425
@odin0425 4 жыл бұрын
@@443red I replaced the drivers side solenoid as my code was related to it, and I can still hear it although much reduced and may be from passenger side, but ya the truck runs much better. I plan on doing the passengers side next week. the 07+ F150's you HAVE to remove the valve cover gaskets, so drivers took me about two hours, passengers hopefully will take less unless I have to pull the AC lines. I also went to full synthetic 10-30, and filled to the top of the dipstick line hoping that more pressure can overcome some of this engines short comings.....I was just happy that no plastic or anything like that could be seen in the used oil. Good luck with yours!.
@maseton1367
@maseton1367 8 жыл бұрын
are the F-150 5.4 3v vct solenoids different from a F-250 5.4l 3v super duty and if so what would happend if u do get them mistaken?
@anadavidf6163
@anadavidf6163 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video where you have to remove valve cover on passenger side? I have to disconnect AC line as well and I'm no mechanic. I only see the easy replace or removed engine vids.
@amtpdb1
@amtpdb1 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 5.4l 2004. Could these failing cause the mileage to lowering as the cams don't advance? The best mileage I see is 11-12 on the freeway empty! 9or 10 on the street. Thanks for the videos.
@amtpdb1
@amtpdb1 8 жыл бұрын
+amtpdb1 Forgot to say only 125,000 miles on it.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
+amtpdb1 if it is not advancing the timing you will know it as the timing is constantly monitored for emissions reasons. The most common reason for dropping mileage is a skewed input to the PCM, drag on the driveline and restricted cats.
@amtpdb1
@amtpdb1 8 жыл бұрын
+FordTechMakuloco Thanks for the information. Have a nice day.
@tedthornton7791
@tedthornton7791 6 жыл бұрын
amtpdb1 on my 5.4 f150 lariat i get 13.5 anywhere. If i disconnect battery to reset computer, i get 16.8 hwy.
@rockerbigjoe5711
@rockerbigjoe5711 5 ай бұрын
Why does mine only do It in reverse pushing a load.?
@russellfoote3910
@russellfoote3910 6 жыл бұрын
'98 F150 5.4 Aluminum intake manifold. I just changed heater core. Then the piece that the coolant temp sensor screws into (behind the alternator) and it screws into front intake manifold crossover, because the 1/4 tube that a coolant hose goes on was rusted and leaking. No more leaks, but Now the engine is shaking and no response on acceleration. Starts right up and no problem at stop light. Ran like a champ before I worked on it. Any advice? Also have a p0001 code
@josuepocasangre7583
@josuepocasangre7583 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you tell me what scanner are you used ????
@CTRLALTDayman1776
@CTRLALTDayman1776 3 ай бұрын
He's using Forscan. It's a free Ford diagnostic tool on PC, iOS, and Android but you'd need a USB to obII or a Bluetooth adapter
@VitaminE-82
@VitaminE-82 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 05 F-150 with 5.4 triton. I'm showing error codes P0349, P0345, & P0022. My truck has been having a rough idle so I after I researched I noticed VCT solenoid. I disconnected the solenoid it ran fine. I ordered a new VCT solenoid replaced it and now it back to the rough idle after slowing down. Is there a secondary VCT or could it be the sensor?
@deloevans5896
@deloevans5896 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen the vct solenoid housing gasket go bad and leak oil should I change it out?
@robc3491
@robc3491 6 жыл бұрын
2007 ford expedition leaking oil from both solenoids do i need to remove the cover in order to replace solenoid or can i replace seal and solenoid without removing cover?
@petemeraz3464
@petemeraz3464 4 жыл бұрын
@fordtechmakuloco I changed out my vct solenoids. Now I don’t have any brakes also it’s is now shaking when it didn’t before. Could you give me any clues on what it could be. Thanks
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 4 жыл бұрын
Brake booster hose fell off of the intake side
@petemeraz3464
@petemeraz3464 4 жыл бұрын
@FordTechMakuloco yeah i found it thanks for the heads up and help, now I just need to put it back on. All I’ve read is I need to pull the intake to hook it back up please tell me that it not the only way.
@petemeraz3464
@petemeraz3464 4 жыл бұрын
@FordTechMakuloco ok got it back on and the truck runs amazing never felt her have this much power. Thanks you are awesome
@iron4577
@iron4577 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible the new oem can be faulty? Cause I change mine when in a month and just started keeping tuck open but only when it’s hot and it’s happens once a while
@jacobcarr3078
@jacobcarr3078 7 жыл бұрын
I'm getting both of these codes on my 2004 f150. I have done a engine flush and changed both vct solenoids and I'm still getting these codes. Not to sure but It seems to have p0012 at idle and p0011 while driving. Had the oil pressure checked and they said it had good pressure so not sure what to do next. Can you give me any advice. It has a really rough idle.
@thuglivintv824
@thuglivintv824 2 жыл бұрын
Did you fix it?
@jacobcarr3078
@jacobcarr3078 2 жыл бұрын
@@thuglivintv824 yes I had to change out the cam phasers
@nickad55
@nickad55 5 жыл бұрын
HI, i have a 5.4 engine with the code p0012, would this code be able to let the computer turn off the spark to one cylinder. i have been told the computer could save he engine by turning off , cylinder deactivation, to save the engine. than you jim
@riding2nowhere
@riding2nowhere 4 ай бұрын
I got a 2010 f150 I unhooked the vct on bank 1 and 2. Drove around a couple days. Hooked the vct back up, it started and then died. Unhooked them again, now trys to start but won't. What happened???😢
@blackstonshingaling
@blackstonshingaling 8 жыл бұрын
Does this mean in actuality that the unit needed to be cleaned and a new spring put in?
@randyragon
@randyragon 8 жыл бұрын
+Blackaboe With that many miles the magnets can also become weak and not move the piston correctly. I have rebuilt one before, as a temp fix back when there was a shortage of new ones. It made it three weeks before it started acting up again. And I have used after market generic that didn't last a year. Always replace and use the quality ones Brian is recommending.
@coyote50585
@coyote50585 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many VCT solenoids on the market. Can I use aftermarket brand VCT valves like melling or gates and will it be ok? I know the Ford Parts are the best but I can get the aftermarket mentioned locally and half the price.
@mrc5098
@mrc5098 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t do that
@cotynietling2567
@cotynietling2567 7 ай бұрын
I put two brand new vvt solenoids in and new oil and oil filter nd now my truck runs way worse violently shakes and you try to drive it and it bogs down has a metalic rattle at 40 to 45 it bucks and surges any ideas
@erix7312
@erix7312 3 жыл бұрын
Does the 1998 cobra have a vct been searching around and there’s rarely any info on the sn95 cobras
@laschell59
@laschell59 2 жыл бұрын
My neighbor just told me this was my problem. I bought 2 new ones and DAM IT runs again 😁
@abcardenas35
@abcardenas35 6 жыл бұрын
Would the VCT solenoids create a multi misfire on 2 3 and 4 Bank 1 or were the cam phasers to that
@timbroom2328
@timbroom2328 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2009 f150 with the 5.4. Had some issues leading me to believe it's bad vct. Took the one from bank two and found metal shavings. Does this mean my engine is shot?
@dstoffan89
@dstoffan89 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one of these from your affiliate link to fix my issue. it came poorly packaged, banging around in an oversized box with no padding. do you think it will be okay or should I return it for another one?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the connector is not damaged and the screens are ok then it should be fine.
@dstoffan89
@dstoffan89 2 жыл бұрын
@@FordTechMakuloco thanks! I replaced my solenoid on bank 2 and it was really straightforward thanks to your videos! Unfortunately I've now thrown codes for bank 1....
@PrimalurgesMiami
@PrimalurgesMiami 8 жыл бұрын
I replaced one a few years ago and the orifice on the retaining washer was smaller than the one it replaced. Both parts new and old were OEM. The engine was an 04. I replaced the retaking washer on the old VCT with one that was the same size as the new. Didn't seem to affect anything but wondering why the size of the orifice was different on the new one. Any ideas?
@technicalitems731
@technicalitems731 4 жыл бұрын
I am at 280k miles on my 2004 f150 5.4 3v. I want to replace all of the timing components as well as oil pump. But I’d like to start with the VCT for the next 10k miles before I tear the front of the motor down. Mine has a shake at idle. Dies at idle sometimes and dash light shows low oil pressure. Cranks back fine. Has a low idle. Slight miss on hills intermittently(might be the eBay coil packs). I see the amazon link for VCT in description. It’s the correct one for mine? Or are they all the same? I also wants the updated rubber gasket/plug that it uses in the valve cover. Looking to purchase VCTs tonight. Both sides. Link is for 1? Thanks!
@Elvergalargax
@Elvergalargax 7 жыл бұрын
what do you think on 2007 f150 5.4 . was running good and after replacing the vct on driver side I see those codes and engine shake and make noise like a popcorn w rev , and smell Very bad , what do you think , I might forget do something? (no codes)
@Imjussaiyanbro
@Imjussaiyanbro 2 жыл бұрын
My truck starts and idles fine but after it warms up the worse it sounds and drives. Sounds similar to the noise here, is it a good possibility this is my issue? 200k miles 04 f150 5.4, can I clean these just to get a idea if they are sticking? I don’t have a scanner unit.
@matthewdickson213
@matthewdickson213 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2007 f-150 with the 5.4 3v the truck runs good and has plenty of power when cold as soon as it hits operating temperature it gets very sluggish and it is hard to keep a consistent speed without down shifting it is throwing a code saying that the timing is over advanced on both cams any idea what could cause that?
@kevinammons2799
@kevinammons2799 4 жыл бұрын
The link for the ford vct solenoid says it's for 5.4 but will they work for the 4.6 3valve for 05 mustang gt?
@rrmech11
@rrmech11 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of the operation of the solenoid Brian. How much is the IDS scan tool?
@rileycrowley7721
@rileycrowley7721 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great videos. I went through and did the complete timing on my 04 fx4. Unfortunately I still have an issue with some sticking valves. Do you have any cheap or easy ideas for that before I tear it all apart again?
@nfsking4826
@nfsking4826 Жыл бұрын
Did you put out the rocker arms on passenger side?
@ft9112
@ft9112 2 жыл бұрын
What is your thought on using Melling VCT instead of Oem?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 жыл бұрын
never
@j.r.6504
@j.r.6504 4 жыл бұрын
Please help my truck 2006 5.4l 3v have this code P0012 it started today engine light flashing when I bought it oil was coming out of the dipstick. That was 2 weeks ago I got the Vct selenoids replaced and that fixed the problem with the oil coming out of the dipstick. But now the engine light is flashing with code p0012 no clicking sound.. it drives good it only does it from time to time it vibrates at times during the day. And it also showing code p0430 Cat I was told it might need the timing chain replace. But I don’t heard no ticking noise. Truck shows 55,000 miles. With carfax history. I’m hoping they are original miles.
@thewobblysender7048
@thewobblysender7048 7 жыл бұрын
I'm stumped. Got in my 06 expedition 5.4 started it up and it would barely idle. Pinged, backfired and knocked under load. Scanner showed bank 1 timing way advanced at idle. Unplugged bank1 vct no change. Replaced VCT and truck now runs and timing is normal but rough idle with no power. Getting 8mpg and the only code that comes up is p0171. Bank 1 lean. Changed intake manifold, bank1 injectors, plugs, coils, still no change. Cats check out fine. The darn thing was running perfect prior. I cant figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@mr_j7274
@mr_j7274 3 жыл бұрын
Great video; always learn alot from them. My '05 5.4 Expedition is having all of the same issues as the vehicle in this video. The knocking and stalling starts after driving the truck for a few minutes. I hooked up my TOPDON Diagnosis Scanner and it is pulling a P0345 "Camshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Bank 2" error. Would replacing my VCT Solenoids fix my problem.
@isaacdepoe8157
@isaacdepoe8157 Жыл бұрын
I've had the ame thing I replaced both of the sensors snd I'm working on doing the vct if not that it's gotta be the tensioner
@kylepollock8651
@kylepollock8651 Жыл бұрын
Can I change VCTs myself on 2010 Ford expedition without removing valve covers?
@Jay388
@Jay388 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately nope
@BrFishWPB
@BrFishWPB 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 F150 with the 3V and when I follow you link to amazon, they say it will not fit my truck. i can't seem to find the OEM parts online for the 2004
@TheMarky26
@TheMarky26 3 жыл бұрын
Dang i think thats what's going on with my 4.6 explorer..Will just replacing the solenoids fix the problem?
@andrewedds4386
@andrewedds4386 7 жыл бұрын
In this video you mentioned a method for testing alternators. Do you have a video on this. Vehicle in question is a 2005 f150 4.6l
@187WCB
@187WCB 8 жыл бұрын
Seems like a really problematic engine given all the material you've posted on it.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
+MikeP47 this is true
@MrFerrill
@MrFerrill 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great engine, 270k on mine not one engine issue yet (well till now but counting on it being something small)
@michaelwerbick
@michaelwerbick 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative vids. Well explained and has solved a few problems on my wife's 190k mile engine. Although there are issues, it's still reliable and better than new payments today...lol
@Mr.Beauregarde
@Mr.Beauregarde 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking engineers, amirite.
@Markomyt1
@Markomyt1 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? This is the cornerstone of Brian's business! And Ford put this engine in everything.
@justinocamb1410
@justinocamb1410 7 жыл бұрын
I put new solenoids in and now 4months later I’m getting this problem. I had it before where it would stall out. New vct seemed to stop that. Of course I did cam phaser. Chains and guides. Is it possible to have one go bad after 4 months. I put a less expensive one in
@BadBellyBlues
@BadBellyBlues 7 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing on my 2004, new cam phasers, timing chains, oil pump. After about 8 months it seemed to go back to the original running problem. Several months of repeated solenoid failure engine codes after installing 2 new ones. finally switched to 10-30 oil and the problems went away. the car runs great now. 127k miles. It was always my guess that my oil pressure was lowering as the car got to run temp. Thats when the problems would always start after several minutes of running and getting to temp.
@partsbrothers7776
@partsbrothers7776 6 жыл бұрын
Do these solenoids act up when the vehicle is running at its regular temperature?
@chiefpipelayer26
@chiefpipelayer26 7 жыл бұрын
FordTechMakuloco, I have a 2004 F150 new body style 5.4 3v, the VCT solenoids you reference says its not compatible with my vehicle. These appear to be the same only the updated version (8L3Z-6M280-B), will these fit my specific year or am I missing something and need 8L3Z-6M280-A?
@mfcobb1
@mfcobb1 6 жыл бұрын
Where are these located on the 5.4. I had a mechanic change plugs and coils and he left the brown connectors disconnected because his buddy told him they did not do anything. I have been driving for a month no codes and just stumbled upon two so far on the drivers side that were disconnected hanging in the breeze, and he also had accidentally swapped the pcv and evap purge hoses. I stumbled upon that when I could not get my dipstick out without jerking it hard. Where are these VXTs located on a 2006 f250 5.4?
@RobertBrockwell
@RobertBrockwell 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you didnt have a mechanic worth a shit. Need to find a real mechanic that knows what hes doing.
@dennisp.5053
@dennisp.5053 4 жыл бұрын
What are the odds of a VCT solenoid screen passing through the system and getting lodged in a camshaft phaser? I just purchased a 2006 Lincoln Navigator with the 5.4 3-Valve and it has a very rough idle and just off idle. I disconnected both VCT solenoids and it ran exactly the same. I pulled them both out and 1 whole screen band was missing on Bank 2, and all the screens were missing on Bank 1. The plastic retainers were still there on Bank 1.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 4 жыл бұрын
Just replace the solenoids the screen is long gone not in the phaser
@dennisp.5053
@dennisp.5053 4 жыл бұрын
@@FordTechMakuloco Thank you and thank you for your service, from a 21 year US Navy Submarine veteran.
@KT-hz4oh
@KT-hz4oh 7 жыл бұрын
First of all thank you for your videos they have helped out so much! I recently had all the timing replaced on my 5.4. I have drove it around forty miles since it was replaced and today I got a p0022 bank 2 code. Where do I go from here? Oil pump, cam position sensor or something else?
@AB67
@AB67 7 жыл бұрын
I did the same on a 4.6 and the same codes came back, P0010 and P0020, truck seems to runs okay, just has been worse on gas mileage. I have no clue what else to do now?! I need a solution!
@Dayalalito001
@Dayalalito001 4 жыл бұрын
@@AB67 i junked mine
@ponycorral99
@ponycorral99 6 жыл бұрын
Had a timing rattle in startup and rough idle/stalling after low acceleration when warm. Did total timing job with all new Ford parts, the new Melling HV oil pump, flushed engine, new Ford VCT solenoids. Rattle is gone but rough idle when warm is still happening unless I unplug the brand new VCT solenoids? Any thoughts on what would be causing this still?
@elimiller4042
@elimiller4042 4 жыл бұрын
Did you slice what was the problems
@ponycorral99
@ponycorral99 4 жыл бұрын
@@elimiller4042 yes, I was still suffering from low oil pressure in the heads. I had good pressure down at the oil pressure sensor in the block but by the time it got up to the heads, my heads were so worn out that there was not enough oil pressure to run the VCT components. I ended up having other issues in the bottom end. The thrust bearing had all but disintegrated and there were pieces of it in the oil pan. It completely ruined the oil pump and had run metal throughout the enginewhich probably contributed to the worn heads. I ended up finding a used engine from a salvage yard and did a complete swap. it was a lot of extra work but I felt it was my only shot at recouping some of my costs. I was still able to sell the old engine to somebody who wanted the block. They paid me $350 for it. Good luck to you and let me know if you have any other questions.
@danielangeles4953
@danielangeles4953 6 жыл бұрын
I did the chains two times with the same code p0022 i also replace the soleniods but i got them from the autoparts
@brandonoh777
@brandonoh777 2 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to pull that live data? Does that connect up to the standard OBD2 port?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we use the Ford IDS.
@wendellhendrix4725
@wendellhendrix4725 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you I have a 2007 gt mustang and I have modded it a little and I’ve changed the timing chains and cam phasers and cams are bigger but not to big after several months it started to idle up and down when you stop at a light then it started rattling so I thought it was the cheaper cam phasers an so I put the lockouts in them and got a tune for it but it still knocks and sounds like a diseal engine , what can it be the vct solenoids? I replaced them when I did the timing chains and cams but they were aftermarket and it does need an oil change. I could use your help please! Thanks in advance
@azteca7201
@azteca7201 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I am having trouble with my 2005 f150 I change the vvt solenoids It ran fine for about 10 min drove it about 5 miles and now it will not start I don know if it’s bad aftermarket solenoids or what can you help me out thanks
@Anon1mous
@Anon1mous 3 жыл бұрын
Even bad solenoids or no solenoids at all shouldn't keep your car from starting. Maybe you forgot to plug something back in or something is loose.
@christophermedonca8165
@christophermedonca8165 4 жыл бұрын
I got a problem when i floor it once i get near shifting rpm it wont shift for like a few seconds should i flush the trans fluid ?
@brucecrutchfield3473
@brucecrutchfield3473 3 жыл бұрын
I unplugged my VCTs and my weird noise at acceleration went away. Can I drive it like that for a little bit until I get time to replace them?
@daduze2
@daduze2 5 ай бұрын
That's my question. I disconnected mine and it's running better. Idle is still a little ruff in Park.
@meanodustino9563
@meanodustino9563 6 жыл бұрын
Love the channel I have a 05 f150 5.4. Ran beautiful had 200k miles. Just changes my oil from a 5/30 -5/20 for winter in Canada. Truck will hardly run the next day. Misfires. P0010 P0012 P0020 P0174 P0351-P0358 P2196 Plugs and coils I have changed 40k miles All plugs are clean. VCT? Cam sensor?
@johngoss5525
@johngoss5525 Жыл бұрын
Hey bud like your channel great stuff do the 2004 5.4 f150 have a pcv I'm having trouble finding mine
@Chris-hp9oz
@Chris-hp9oz 8 жыл бұрын
Just had my VCT solenoids replaced. I drove home from the shop and got the same issues you described in your video which lead to replacing the solenoids in the first place (did not fix the issue). Any idea why that didn't solve my problem. I have video of my truck making the same sounds and nearly stalling out like the truck you were using for your video. Any ideas are much appreciated!
@thuglivintv824
@thuglivintv824 2 жыл бұрын
Did you fix it?
@SpecterMatthew
@SpecterMatthew 7 жыл бұрын
I have an 09 kia borrego. The solenoid electrical connector is puddled in oil. Dont know how it got there. Should this be concerning?
@codyj7980
@codyj7980 3 жыл бұрын
So can you just leave them unhooked instead of replacing them?
@daduze2
@daduze2 5 ай бұрын
This is what I am reading the comments for. I have mine unplugged now and it runs better. Just rough when sitting in park.
@gingi801
@gingi801 3 жыл бұрын
When my truck is idle, bank 2 is right at 13degrees. should it be at 0 when idle? Bank 1 is at 0 on idle
@71manny89
@71manny89 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone give me some insight on this issue. I have a 2006 expo 5.4 3v. I got a code for p0012 and p0420. At first didn't feel much difference except for one time it felt shaky like it wanted to jump. I changed the both vct with ford parts. Surprising the bank 2 had a torn scene stuck in the port but never got a code for it. I changed oil and the truck drove great. Code p0420 went away but p0012 keeps coming up pending disappears then comes back. Truck makes no sounds from phasers. It sounds good idles at 750 with no problems. Although I feel like if I floor it it has a second of hesitation. Any thoughts?
@dmoney4225
@dmoney4225 Жыл бұрын
I recently did timing job and did everything correct with all ford parts. It road well for 500 miles and threw cold for P0012, P0022. So I redid the timing just to make sure I didn’t do anything wrong. I bought VCT from Autozone. Once it was back together it continued to run rough. Me being dumb I redid the timing for the 3rd and replaced the VCT with Ford and it still throwing P0012, P0022 codes. I don’t know what else to do. All Ford parts being done correctly shouldn’t give me so many problems.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Жыл бұрын
You have oil pressure and volume issues, first step is a high volume oil pump Melling M340HV, make sure the oil pickup is clear and run 5w-30. If all of that fails run 5w-40.
@dmoney4225
@dmoney4225 Жыл бұрын
@@FordTechMakuloco thank you. I forgot to mentioned I replaced the oil pump with the HV pump you recommended. I will change to 5w40 and hope for the best.
@MrFerrill
@MrFerrill 7 жыл бұрын
You got all the intel on these 4.6 5.4 engines 👏🏼... I got 269k on my platinum and starting to have some issues and a couple "mechanics" just want to start throwing 20 different parts at it. I have a huge loss of power, mpg dropped, slight ticking (maybe tick has always been there just notice more now), No codes, smooth start and idle, any ideas? Oil replaced about 3 months ago 10w-30 synthetic I believe, any help would be much appreciated
@GlossyLake
@GlossyLake 6 жыл бұрын
Alfred Ferrill did you ever get those problems taken care of? And if so what was the solution??
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji
@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Жыл бұрын
I unplug my solenoids and you just heavy wire from the battery post to their solenoid and shocked it even sending power the wrong way the song it's just click click the solenoid immediately started running smooth mine happens to be the driver side, I couldn't believe it cost me a dollar and I was about to do a timing😅 and it still running great and that was 6 months ago these 3-valve 5.4 Triton have to change the oil nv4500 miles at most with good oil
@hunterrieger7269
@hunterrieger7269 3 жыл бұрын
My f150 08 5.4L has a rough idle and low rpm. When I’m in reverse or going forward to parallel park it shakes and rattles and sounds like it’s going to stall. It sounds just like the issue in this video
@gordonmohamed4886
@gordonmohamed4886 2 жыл бұрын
I do learn slot from your videos but I have a problem with my 2011 navigator 5.4 when hot and when I put in reverse the engine start shaking I have to put it in park or neutral and step on the gas to clear it. I took it to the mechanic and changed the crankshaft position position sensor driver side. That didn’t help I change the oil and filter and still have same problem can you advise
@brysonjackson7170
@brysonjackson7170 2 ай бұрын
did you ever fix?
@telecommutejobs628
@telecommutejobs628 7 жыл бұрын
Could this cause a loud ticking noise if the VCT solenoid is bad?
@greenknuckle77
@greenknuckle77 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@miguelgarcia3178
@miguelgarcia3178 4 жыл бұрын
Hey teck mine randomly turns off if you dont put gas so on stop sigh i have to put the brake and a little gas so it wont turn off
@richardbeal2790
@richardbeal2790 8 жыл бұрын
Is there a problem with the chains stretching on these engines? If so, could that be confused with a vct code(s)?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 8 жыл бұрын
+richard beal not really an issue in my experience. For example I just replaced a 170k chain and there was no real difference between old and new. The links were worn yes but otherwise ok
@MemphisMojo15s
@MemphisMojo15s 8 жыл бұрын
+FordTechMakuloco How does metal stretch? I understand it wears which causes slack..I had 224k miles on my Toyota motor and my guides wore so we did the timing. no issues with the chain so we put it back on and only replaced the guides and the small timing gear
@richardbeal2790
@richardbeal2790 8 жыл бұрын
+2010V6RAV4 "chain stretching " is a term used to indicate that a timing chain is longer then it used to be. They don't "stretch" like a rubber band, the pins wear, causing the whole chain to elongate by the amount of wear times the number of pins. But yes metal can stretch, contract and expand.
@seanbehen5502
@seanbehen5502 6 жыл бұрын
I replaced both of these, changed oil and the crankshaft sensors, the engine light comes back on for the P0011/P0021 issue, what else is left to check
@Luis70870
@Luis70870 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with my truck, same fault codes
@SergioGomez-ki5sl
@SergioGomez-ki5sl 5 жыл бұрын
07 f150 p0022 n 22 replaced both vct solenoids disconnected them still rattles when up to operating temperature
@RayRay-xd4hf
@RayRay-xd4hf 7 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a 05 f150, when cold it sounds good and steady but once I drive it it's makes noise like a Diesel when at idol, but it dose not shake or anything and no check engine light, can you halp plz thx 🤔
@oliverdelgado6952
@oliverdelgado6952 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Ray mine does too
@danielangeles4953
@danielangeles4953 6 жыл бұрын
Check your camfacers and
@jamespeters3907
@jamespeters3907 6 жыл бұрын
Like camshaft phaser knocking. Time for timing set as long as your oil pressure is ok
@justinirwin7881
@justinirwin7881 4 жыл бұрын
I've got code p0012 on a 2010 5.4 l 3 valve do you think it's something to do with the solenoids?
@jasonashley604
@jasonashley604 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 F150 with the 4.6 L Triton in it does that have the solenoids in it
@masonerwin2001
@masonerwin2001 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 mustang 4.6l can a bad crankshaft sensor also cause this sound because my throws that code but i cannot seem to find the problem?
@masonerwin2001
@masonerwin2001 5 жыл бұрын
Mustang also has 230,000 miles on it and has been up kept very nicely not much has been broken
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