Forensic Files Season 11, Episode 10 - The Gambler - Full Episode

One warm summer afternoon, the town of Verona, Wisconsin faced its first triple homicide. To solve the case, investigators had to delve into the world of high rollers and offshore betting.
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[@tonyc7301]

This is one of the episodes where it’s hard to have much sympathy for the victims. The main scammer not only did not place the bet for Mark, but pocketed his bet money as well. It seems that Jason was giving Mark poor betting advice on purpose, so the bets that Mark would place would lose, and Jason would just pocket the money instead of actually placing the bet, especially if the wager was very large. Since the bets lost anyway, Mark would never question where the money went. Once a large bet actually won, Jason told Mark to F off. That's when Mark likely figured out Jason had duped him the entire time, and probably stole a lot more than 17K over several months. You mess with people like that over major amounts of money, you can expect repercussions eventually.

[@marilyzu1340]

Exactly......I hate scammers 😡

[@sahabufonyuy3649]

That’s exactly what was happening and it’s greed that comes with the game, betting generally is bad and it turns good people to be bad, not due to their own making but due to the effects of gambling.

[@westlygwynn6508]

I feel like the killer was the victim here.

[@Bambi-xg3kr]

And the mother saying they were good boys.

[@aamanpour3630]

@@westlygwynn6508 My goodness, so it wasn't just me. I almost teared up when I saw he had committed suicide and I'd been hoping he'd made it to Taiwan... ah well. I don't believe what he did was right but I can understand what he must have been feeling... the rage.

[@titob.yotokojr.9337]

If Jason did not place the bet, or "forgot" to do it, then he should have just returned it. The mere fact he did not return the money means he stole it.

[@sarahnikas1344]

Wu was demanding the 17,000 that he would have won if the bet was placed, not the original sum bet (which doesn't seem to be disclosed). It's not mentioned whether he returned the original sum or not, but even if he did it would not have covered the 17,000 Wu felt he was owed. It's very possible it was returned.

[@Weirzy]

A lot has been left out of this episode, Jason and his friends saw Wu as an easy target, a rich naive foreigner. Wu didn't even know the names of sports teams he was betting on.. he was clueless but wanted the rush to win. Jason would tell Wu bad betting advice and pocket the money, it was a miracle that a bet actually came off and instead of paying him, he continued the lie. Jason was a spoilt brat, his aunt gave him upwards of 250k for gambling and he refused to give 10k back to his father. His friends weren't angels either and were more or less his muscle.

[@mynewdirectcars1841]

@@Weirzy Good observation bro. This episode isn’t fair and balanced. Jason was clearly a scammer. He thought the innocent guy as an easy target and we all know what innocent people are capable of under right circumstances.

[@Weirzy]

@@mynewdirectcars1841 I've studied this case heaps, 'interviewed' a lot of people that were involved - even Wu's sister. Jason definitely wasn't some innocent victim as the show portrayed - he enjoyed the bad boy/gangster image and craved the attention from those younger than him (i.e. his fellow murdered comrades) In saying that though Mark Wu was certainly a bit wacky too - the guy did kill three people after all.

[@jamielehman4934]

@@sarahnikas1344 I doubt it was returned. The only reason Jason would've had for not placing the bet was that he wanted to keep the money.

[@Meela234]

"They weren't bad kids". Ma'am, maybe the other two weren't the worst, but Jason was not a nice guy. He stole that guy's money and told him to shut up about it while waving a gun at him. I feel bad for your family's grief, but you can keep that "good kid" lie to yourself. Murder was not the way to handle it, but I can understand Mark's level of anger about being scammed. People die every day for a lot less than 17k.

[@Breeanna-og3js]

I wonder if Mark tried to ever file a police report. He can prove he withdrawn 17000 dollars and that the guy added that money to his account. Unless if he just kept the cash

[@tonyc7301]

I think the amount is actually more than that. 17K was the winnings. The show never actually said what his original bet was. I.e., if he bet 15K at +113, that would equal winnings of about 17K. In that example, Mark would be owed 32K.

[@tonyc7301]

@@Breeanna-og3js There would be no sense in filing a police report. Sports gambling online was not legal in the United States in 2003. Using an overseas service was questionable at best. I’m sure the police would not have helped him, and it might have actually created problems for Mark.

[@patron2022]

Exactly 👍🏼

[@Rye-jl2fk]

I don't even blame Mark for killing Jason if everything I heard in this episode is true. If you steal 17k you should be in a body bag. As for the other 2 friends, Mark lost me there. That was straight up overboard.

[@tonyc7301]

Mark made two giant mistakes after the murders. One was leaving one of his cars at Jason’s apartment. The other was putting the bag with the sandals and receipt in the trash dumpster behind his own apartment. If Mark had reached Taiwan, he would’ve been home free.

[@danielkirk2306]

Dumpster man was probs sweating bullets thinking he was in trouble for lying about picking up dumpsters when he didn't lol

[@kiefekiefe9542]

Cheating never ends well

[@smgp2023]

Well, its def the "fuck around and find out" killer version 😅

[@tjtrainzCSX]

😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@erikspence6666]

Facts my guy 😂

[@jamesnelson7173]

Jason smacks his neighbor, neighbor slams him on the ground. Jason calls the police. Very telling.

[@patron2022]

Ikr you can just tell by his smug look he’s just a damn wanna-be drug dealer/baseball bet “expert” 😤🙄

[@mmutants116]

weird they're being called kids when the dude was 28

[@SweetChicagoGator]

2 of them were kids dude ! 17 & 20.

[@bartholomewesperanza3442]

@@SweetChicagoGator 20 isn’t a kid, 17 barely is

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@bartholomewesperanza3442 Age number never does equal mind number. I met many kids aged 40 and 50 throughout my lifetime ! 🤣

[@catherinesyme901]

My kid is 28 lol, she will always be a kid

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@catherinesyme901 LOL that's right ! They will always be our kids ! 💓

[@chrsn]

I guess Jason McGuigan learned about big-time consequences when you try to be a big-time hustler.

[@BootlegGarage108]

He screwed him self probably pocket the cash thinking mark wouldn't win

[@andylatino]

And Mark also learned there are consequences when you go psycho and kill people, including those who had nothing to do with him. Shame on Wu.

[@DTB1995]

​@Andy Latino I agree..there's no victims in this case..they were all corrupt individuals

[@Memg007]

@@andylatinoAre you slow? They all preyed on him and even denigrated him.

[@Rye-jl2fk]

@@Memg007The other two friends were jerks but they didn't steal Wu's money and therefore did not deserve to die. Wu got carried away and was served a lethal dose of justice.

[@katkat1080]

Jason was a betting man. He bet against the wrong guy

[@sunnyskies880]

Real tough guy, picking on the skinny Asian nerd. He pocketed his money, basically telling him “what are you gonna do about it”. Well, he pushed him a little too far

[@umarprinceofpigfeetjohnson4600]

JASON GROWN ASS WAS 28 YEARS OLD! TWIN - TEE - ATE! HE WAS NOT A KID WTF LMAO

[@isaachawthorne2795]

To older people, you're still a kid in your 20's and 30's

[@ahmedciise9502]

“His mother said normal kids “ that grown men was playing games with other people money so he deserve what came to his way 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@nickcopeland6915]

Aunt.

[@hollywoodvideos82]

Exactly

[@redmr2na]

Yeah right. Most Normal kids have to get JOBS! All these kids sucked and good riddance.

[@abdielgaldamez7393]

No one has the right to kill no one mark wu was just psychopath he hung himself like all psycho

[@alyssafowler9240]

Murder is never justified so no he didn't. Quit the victim bashing.

[@cathylittleton7361]

Love the way Peter Thomas Tells a Story

[@s.tavares3257]

R.I.P.

[@stfuplsok]

@@s.tavares3257 for Peter and the 'kids'.

[@Mshokie27]

"It gave Mark Wu 17000 reasons for revenge"🙃

[@MyungHunter61]

This is the first time I have felt sympathy for the killer. The victims are real jurks.

[@aamanpour3630]

I thought something was wrong with me. I am so relieved to see I am not alone. I was rooting for him to have made it to Taiwan. I felt saddened to see he had taken his young life even if he did take three others. I don't think he was inherently bad. I think he was pushed to the brink of his sanity.

[@lesant7659]

Me too and I understand his frustration. Even tho Mark doesn't nothing about sport gambling, he shouldn't give his money to anyone specially if it's related to gambling. Figure it out on your own how to gamble and don't trust nobody.

[@nancyhaddad1454]

There are actually 3 other episodes i can think of off the top of my head that i felt sorry for the killer and 0 sympathy for the victim. I really feel bad for his parents. I wish he wouldnt have killed himself. Im pretty sure with the amount of money his family had they could have hired a great attorney that might have claimed an insanity plea. He was obviously pushed to the brink of insanity by these horrific men who used him and abused him. RIP ❤❤

[@TNT-km2eg]

Sympathy for the murderer ?! Dogs eat no dog

[@leviq92]

@@aamanpour3630nah something still wrong with you. Shouldn’t have sympathy for either one

[@jamesspears8226]

I just watched the episode and heard he killed himself in his own jail cell because he knew he was going to live in prison for the rest of his life, and now his parents have to grieve the loss of their only son. I felt bad that Mark didn't get his money he won

[@virg0_lem0nade]

obviously killing these dudes wasn't the way to go, but i gotta say, these sure are some of the least sympathetic "victims" on the whole show.... A pack of thieves and cheats who were also witnessed being racist to the same guy they stole thousands of dollars from.

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

Mark wasnt no angel himself. It literally said he was stalking the people and threatening them. He killed two people in their sleep, for gods sake. That’s way worse than stealing money from somebody. If Mark was that mad about it, go to the police or get a lawyer and sue them.

[@virg0_lem0nade]

@@RussellGreerOfficial Yeah, that's exactly what I said, he clearly did the wrong thing. Just saying it's weird how the narrative keeps trying so hard to make these two jackasses look better, lol. It keeps calling these grown men "boys" and when Jason literally stole thousands of dollars from Mark they called it "Mark Wu not wanting to give him the money". LMFAO like of course nobody WANTS to be cheated out of thousands lol. It's just a really stark difference between this, and other cases where the victim was an innocent person. Clearly none of the victims here were innocent.

[@sandiasurfers3174]

I agree those dudes were cheats and POS, but attention to detail is important. The witness assumed it was racist just seeing the two parties having an altercation. There’s no mention of racial slurs or anything. The whole thing is negated by the fact the parties knew each other.

[@alexburke1899]

Have you seen the episode about the Russian financial advisor? It might have been new detectives or a different show, but that guy was an awful person that deserved to get whacked lol. I remember thinking am I supposed to feel sorry for the “victim” here. The guy basically ran a Ponzi scheme and stealing hard working people including his long time friends retirement money. There’s a few of these where the victim just ripped off the wrong person and learned the hard way. I remember another one where a kid was selling radio equipment and sending people cheaper radios than they bought then refused to refund them or take their calls. Eventually some nut case lost it and went and killed the kid. I don’t condone it at all but ripping people off is a good way to get killed.

[@stfuplsok]

FACT: What goes around comes around. Simple

[@jparker59able]

Well, Mark's parents still found out what he did in the end.

[@billwindsor4224]

This is one of the best episodes of “Forensic Files” 🥇🥇🥇: careful coverage of the forensic evidence, specifying the several types of forensic evidence, and law enforcement professionals explaining the forensic science. Well done.

[@PrinceMontrey]

I just love how the narrator pronounces “harassed”

[@darealisthereis31.]

This is one of the best cases that could happen. A great example and sends the message... Dont steal!! They should of never ARRESTED him for ending those 3 idiots specially the guy who stole his money. Great ending besides the suicide.

[@ahmedciise9502]

Stop messing with people money or you can pay that with your life..

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

Lol 😂

[@nataSoN]

Hear hear

[@stfuplsok]

ahmed ciise people's* money

[@Redblue_75]

Well said 🤐

[@DashieNCheekie]

Yes exactly this should be an example to everyone 👏🏻

[@frederickfairlieesq5316]

If Wu had lost the bet he wouldn't have known Jason stole his money. If Wu had won the bet (which he did) Jason would just tell the skinny, clueless foreign kid to do something about it. Jason thought he was good no matter what happened. He was wrong.

[@tonyc7301]

It’s also very likely that Jason had pocketed Mark’s bet money previously as well, as it seems he was giving Mark bad betting advice. Mark was an easy target; A rich foreign kid that had no idea what he was doing and knew nothing about American sports.

[@ronque23]

“Unfortunately, Jason McWiggins fount out the hard way, Wu Tang Clan was not anything that should be fuk’d wit.” -Peter Thomas Probably

[@ebonimom6964]

Underrated comment

[@jimr9499]

Sho nuff

[@JuanRodriguez-wg4vh]

😂

[@aamanpour3630]

I hate you for this. Trying to send folks to hell here.

[@suho8321]

excuse me who the heck is Wu Tang Clan??? A man you imagined??

[@SONYLIVE880]

First time in a long time i felt sympathy for the killer

[@SoBor911]

Well they was white so it was ok to unalive them. But if they was black I doubt you'd feel the same way.

[@Afroweave99]

Don’t play with pplz money

[@nickcopeland6915]

Jason brought this on himself and his two friends.

[@taydestiny38]

Although I don’t agree with Wu’s actions, I kind of sympathize with him. Those guys mistook Wu for being a softy and tried to punk this kid. Well….they all learned a valuable lesson that looks can be deceiving!

[@adotintheshark4848]

Jason never wagered the money, he just took it and basically gave Mark the finger, or else won the money but told Mark he never placed a bet.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

Being a bit presumptuous aren't you you weren't there you really don't know the real story so you need to quit surmising !! Suicide is done and the case is done !

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@SweetChicagoGator Calm down already. Nothing wrong with surmising, Mark didn't deserve his fate. Jason actually did.

[@curtisbrown5939]

I figured he just kept the money.

[@samsngdevice5103]

Got what he had coming.

[@andylatino]

Mark was a psychopath, he went straight to kill and didn't care about the others who had nothing to do with him, because he couldn't cover his ass for stealing his parents' money. Shame on Wu.

[@fred_flinstone8]

Excuse me? THEY WEREN'T BAD KIDS? 😳They stole thousands of dollars from a hapless victim. When he confronted their ringleader about it, the man pointed a GUN at him and told him to bugger off. When he followed them, they started swearing and shouting racist rants at him. I mean, murder is never the answer; but it's hard to feel like these "kids" didn't get what they deserved.

[@zuzellogan5613]

For this Aunt to say that these guys were “normal kids” just doing normal things, it is appalling. To begin with, “normal kids” do not engage in ugly behavior like these three did, showing their fingers with obscene gestures to Mark; they all were racists common thieves scamming people. These guys thought that they had the upper hands on this business of gambling when in reality they did not and the three of them lost their lives when Jason doubled crossed Mark Wu and shot him. Jason wanted to pocket Mark Wu’s money, otherwise, he should have returned the money to Mark. No doubt in my mind that Jason didn’t intended to give Mark Wu his money back. Oh well…..when you play with the Devil, there is always hell to pay. SMH

[@judychang8760]

Agreed. I don't condone Wu killing them, but damn, people should call this out for what it is. The white guys were common hoodlums. Being white doesn't "soften" their image.

[@ivonned32]

Im sure she is also a criminal.

[@PrinceMontrey]

Right, I howled with laughter at how legitimately sincere she sounded.

[@seshadri.j]

By American standards

[@Weirzy]

Jason was a spoilt brat, his aunt gave him upwards of 250k so he could gamble!

[@pistoleropr]

so we're just gonna sit here and pretend that detective isn't rocking the sweetest mullet in forensic files history at 1:35, eh?

[@lauraphillips2626]

Wait there was a sweet mullet in this episode and I missed it 🤣

[@joeycape2830]

I looked at the comments just to see if anyone mentioned this lmfao!

[@bertharuiz1225]

One never knows what the 2nd person is capable of.

[@chrisdfx1]

It's hard to feel sorry for the one dude who stole the dudes money, but he didn't have to kill the other 2 dudes, they didn't steal his money.

[@djc9755]

True, but we are judged by the company we keep. This whole episode was rife with ijjits who didn't know the value of money as they didn't have to work for it.

[@pirateshack9315]

dude

[@eve9287]

Right the other two he cud have spared

[@thesummerof1968]

​@@djc9755 Killed because they were friends with the scammer, one friend was a kid (17 years old) Pri☆€k

[@Memg007]

They're not innocent, they harassed him and were accompanies of Jason but yes nobody deserves to be killed.

[@minakiel2930]

Why were these almost 30 yr olds been called kids throughout the episode? unfortunate events but they were old enough to know there are dangers to what they were doing

[@kaykutcher2103]

It's mentioned the youngest was 17 so yeah they were a strange group.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

17 & 20 are still naive kids !

[@minakiel2930]

@@SweetChicagoGator Im 20 and idk it seems wild that they couldn't work out that it was a bad idea. but maybe they weren't average

[@michaelpizano2361]

They all got grounded and had to stand in the corner for an hour

[@erikaashley5189]

Some of them were just kids. Like the 17yr old that was murdered.

[@Agirmetal]

They had it coming

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

Damn

[@neilwani1178]

When a person shows a gun and is upset about losing $17,000, don't be stupid. You have his money. Maybe not 17,000, but still a lot of money. Many people don't feel the pain of others until they get pain returned. But sometimes its too late.

[@meemeethecat7391]

If they claim. That was his business. Then he didn't forget to bet. He poctked the money. Simple as that.

[@meemeethecat7391]

Thanks Meowww.

[@Atlargein]

A case of “underestimating your opponent” which got them killed. And of course had it been the classic “drugs robbery” the grim reaper always collects.

[@gameZA40]

the trio deserved what they got . they saw Mark as an easy money-making scheme, swindling him and pocketing the money but when one of jasons bad betting advice won , they thought they can intimidate Mark and making away with his money. no one deserves to die like that but they had it coming

[@TNT-km2eg]

Three lazy , cheap, low IQ losers murdered by lazy , cheap , low IQ loser ? World full of them , many to be found in comment section

[@SoBor911]

Well they was white so it was ok to unalive them. But if they was black I doubt you'd feel the same way.

[@Stroutta-oh7mj]

Unfortunately Mark was very very slow. Clearly. He could’ve left his car ANYWHERE. ANY apartment complex. I’m not going to lie, some of these killers I be rooting for and Mark could’ve been one of em.

[@SoBor911]

Mark is equally at fault in all of these. Should've known better than to place a bet with those questionable characters, which led to this unfortunate tragedy for both sides.

[@Zach-td5mb]

Maybe he shouldn’t have been a spoiled moron

[@KimberlyBishh]

I think it's hilarious when these"smart" criminals get caught almost immediately 😂

[@blacksitcomchannel]

Mark Wu a hero. This story reminds me of a kid who got bullied striking back

[@aamanpour3630]

You know what... maybe that's part of why I was rooting for Wu... he was the underdog here. I honestly hoped he'd made it to Taiwan. I can't say what he did wasn't evil but...

[@Slipknot5301]

clown

[@LovelyDarling1928]

“They we’re good kids.” 😒 uh huh.

[@stfuplsok]

*were

[@tjtrainzCSX]

Morals of this story: 1) don't RELY on anyone else with YOUR money 2) You reap what you sow, the scammer stole from the wrong somebody and that somebody gave what was coming to him...

[@monicadonnelly4991]

The other 2 were scammers in training

[@lauraphillips2626]

I feel bad for mark 😔 although it is wrong to kill I can see why he snapped poor guy

[@ivonned32]

True

[@ginocavazos2153]

I don't blame Mark I would have done the same thing Jason got what he deserved

[@masongovender9231]

@Slytherin Yes, seems like the law failed Mark. These scammers essentially took him for 70K, although not specifically mentioned he likely got illegal bs shitty sports betting advice which was ntn short of a scam.

[@lucah20100586]

Agree! As harsh as it is. Jason was an ass!

[@justagirlfromphoenix1023]

@@ginocavazos2153 you don't have the authority to take ANYONE'S life

[@saritacruz3020]

A 20 year old should not have access to that much money. At that age, one is not mature enough and it's a recipe for disaster.

[@aamanpour3630]

Indeed

[@djenzo2450]

Jason mcwiggin played with fire and everyone ended up getting burnt

[@waynejohn1160]

That's was so sad all innocent life's ended so prematurely because of that Evil paper they called money Sad :(:( sad situation 🇯🇲☹️

[@user-pl7bk5bx4j]

it was not about money. it was about honor

[@Zach-td5mb]

In college, I was always annoyed by the rich Asian students who would show up in 100k+ cars and ruin the motorsports club car meets. I don’t understand the thinking of parents of giving your children so much money they haven’t earned. It will never end well.

[@JaneDoe-xn3ct]

never give the police permission to search your house! make them get a warrant!

[@stephendacey8761]

I can understand why Mark was so mad, but to kill three people, obviously was wrong. Sure, his friends were jerks, including Jason, but there had to be another way to get, at least some of the $17,000 back. It's tough b/c the police will not help you, so Mark's options were limited. It's too bad Mark trusted this Jason guy that much. I really don't know what he could of done. Sad all around.

[@adotintheshark4848]

For what it's worth, the three jerks would have victimized someone else and met the same fate anyway.

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

Lol. How do you know the police couldn’t have helped him? Sure, if he had no evidence, he would have been left without recourse. He could have tried suing Jason. It’s quite frightening that people like yourself seem to think killing others is the only solution, when Mark never pursued legal options. Moral of the story: before sending large amounts of money to people, get any agreement in writing.

[@stephendacey8761]

@@RussellGreerOfficial Russell, I NEVER said murder is an option. I thought I said murder was the wrong solution, but I would also be mad, like everyone else, if I got scammed. I said dealing with a bookie is illegal to begin with, so the police will be of no help. I cannot see any attorney defending a guy who got scammed by a bookie. I can not believe you think I thought murder was an option. Best option: learn from your mistakes, take the loss, and move on in life.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@Cosmic Goat It really wasn't madness. Mark was from a different culture. His deeds and shame ended up getting the better of him. The three victims messed with the wrong guy as well. Not condoning it, but they got what was coming. If not from Mark it would have been from someone else.

[@catherinesyme901]

Yep sad all round and personally I think stealing some cash, regardless of the amount, never justifies murder!

[@jerryphilips9346]

So wu had 17000 reason to take revenge 🤣🤣 lol....

[@bornaries7213]

No auntie...they were not just kids! They were adults playing stupid kid games! Stop playing with people! The least of us can snap!

[@ashleysimms5534]

he had a good life with rich parents , not worth killing 3 ppl over money 🙁

[@ivonned32]

That is what I feel so sad about... if he only had that support from his family to feel free to tell them he is not as perfect as they want him to be. That he needed their help.... so sad any way you see it. 😔

[@unpayedovertime626]

Good parents, Not sure if he had friends and other family to explore other options. But he did get rid of three idiots playing with fire.

[@8luvbug]

Wonder where his parents worked for them to be able to give him 70k

[@brandonkeaton5571]

Does that make the Taiwanese kid a serial killer? 🤔

[@aamanpour3630]

No

[@brandonkeaton5571]

@@aamanpour3630 I did a bit of reading after this episode. Turns out he's what is called a "Spree killer." 👍

[@aamanpour3630]

@@brandonkeaton5571 I see lol

[@robertthegamer28]

Killed with his own gun, damn. Probably would have been smarter to keep it on him lol but then again I doubt he expected Mark to do what he did. This was a crazy one.

[@Geshtar82]

I recall this guy had a compulsive gambling addiction and bought the gun with the killers money. Don't cheat people, also if you have a major cash investment with someone get it in writing. Also get some kind of collateral. Narcissist behavior as well.

[@veronicaisl]

Senseless! We have to think the outcome of our actions. We have to be calm and collective before doing anything wrong. Money can be replace but lives isn’t.

[@stephenng6541]

I think the three white kids is bookies wanabee. They accepted the bet but can't cover it.

[@user-cn2fo8rr6p]

This is one episode I felt sorry for the killer.

[@Leifmommy]

I remembered this now

[@zuzellogan5613]

Jason should have return the money that Mark Wu gave him to place a bet. That was not his money at all and the correct thing to do was to return it to Mark when he didn’t place the bet, but Jason didn’t and costed him and his two friends their lives. And Mark Wu should have taken Jason to court when the latter failed to return his $17,000 money rather than kill him along with the two friends. It is not worthy dying because of a damn bet, but it shows the immaturity of Mark Wu. Very sad case where 4 people lost their lives including Mark Wu as well. Truly tragic.

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

Exactly. You’re the only person in this damn comment section to have a logical answer. Everybody else is celebrating the deaths of Jason and his friends. Mark Wu was just as bad as Jason, if not worse.

[@evol1069]

Maybe Mark Wu given Jason the money in cash and I assume that there were no contract written or paperwork of the money given. Mark will have a hard time proving that he gave Jason the money. The court would just throw the case out.

[@tonyc7301]

Everyone here is missing the point. Jason stole the money from Mark intentionally and had no thought of returning Mark's money. For the show to even say maybe Jason forgot to place the bet is absurd. Also, Jason had likely pocketed Mark's bet money on previous occasions, especially on large bets. Since almost all the large bets were losing, Mark wouldn't know where the money went. Once a large best actually won and Jason told Mark to F off, Mark then figured out Jason had likely conned him the entire time. And BTW, Jason likely owed Mark way more than 17K. The show mentioned Mark had withdrawn 70K over a 4-5 month period. Likely 50K-60K were gambling losses, and let's say all but 10K-15K were large bets (And I'm probably being conservative). Jason likely only placed smaller bets through the gaming service and pocketed Mark's money on the big bets. Also, the 17K was only the winnings from the baseball bet. It does not include the original bet amount (Let's call it 10K-15K). So given everything, Jason likely stole 70K-80K from Mark. I'm not justifying the murders, but if not Mark doing this, someone else he stole from eventually would have. You steal that kind of money from people there are eventually going to be repercussions.

[@tonyc7301]

@@aodhan7 There would not be a recorded call because Jason never placed the bet. Mark had no proof at all and didn't want to say anything publicly as his parents would have found out what he was doing with the money. Another thing that doesn't get mentioned here. Honor thy family is huge in most Asian cultures. For Mark to dishonor his family like that obviously was too much for him and he offed himself. Sad all the way around.

[@Memg007]

You can’t go to court, what they did was illegal back then.

[@snackasmversion2752]

Such a shameful death, Mark had to take the coward's way out but I'm sorry to say Jason was no angel himself.

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

Technically, if you don’t get something in writing, like a contract, etc, there’s not much anybody can do. Mark should have just swallowed his bitter pill and document things better the next time he engages in monetary trusts with others. Killing over lost money is not the answer.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@RussellGreerOfficial Totally agree it should have been a contract for that kind of money. Yours is the best answer of all these mofos here that talked of them deserving the revenge. Murder is a coward solution !!

[@stfuplsok]

What goes around comes around. FACT

[@ivonned32]

@@SweetChicagoGator Yeah but you never know so better to not be robbing people!

[@sahabufonyuy3649]

@@RussellGreerOfficial he actually didn’t lose the money, Jason was giving him bets and collecting the money and not playing and instead pocketing it, so this one unfortunately for Jason won and Mark demanded for his money and Jason probably told him to fvck off

[@richardplace4856]

Why do they keep referring to the criminal men as boys?

[@badkarma1289]

@@MainStories 100% false, and racist.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

Scary.

[@rebeccap274]

Why can't i stop watching these o.o& what about the cold case ones...

[@samuelayala88]

I don’t think Jasón forgot to place the bet he was probably so sure Mark wouldn’t win so he didn’t bother to place bet…

[@lesant7659]

Jason kept the money and spend it on clothes, car equipment and others.when it comes to gambling, don't trust nobody with your money.

[@ryderwould7194]

Probably used it to buy the new weapon

[@richardmosley197]

Jason did it to his self 😂 too bad❤

[@999vektor]

Well, they kinda had it coming...

[@frankgardner4852]

HE TOOK THAT MAN’S MONEY

[@gthktty666]

boggles my mind that mark killed 3 people and then himself instead of just telling his parents that he had a gambling problem.

[@s.tavares3257]

He was from Taiwan.. they have a different view on things, and from my experience with them in college, bringing shame to their parents/family is probably the worst thing they can do.

[@user-x57620fzmt]

@@s.tavares3257 Yup, I'm from Taiwan. The authoritarian style of parenting makes us somehow "fear" our parents. Some might choose to suck up everything instead of confiding in their parents to avoid blame and judgement.

[@badkarma1289]

His toxic culture/tiger parents contributed to the situation - he thought killing people was better than facing his parents.

[@tonyc7301]

I dated a girl from Taiwan. Honor thy family means everything to them. Mark bringing shame on them with his gambling problems and losing a ton of his parents money would have been beyond shameful for him.

[@skygalvan1880]

good job Forensic Files you got that sanitation worker fired

[@badkarma1289]

Good riddance to yet another lazy union worker.

[@daverichmond4311]

😂😂 I knew I was gonna find this comment somewhere

[@shannicesmith7387]

I understand!

[@mindyourbizok]

I don't feel bad for Mark Wu. Triple murder is never the answer for anything. He just should have sued his former friend.

[@emordnilap4747]

The real tragedy here is that Mark never made it onto the plane in the end.

[@helgacncfanboy94]

Three racist scamming gamblers were murdered? Good riddance. Mark Wu MVP RIP.

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

So it’s ok to kill somebody for being mean and stealing your money? Wow

[@dwebb50646]

@@RussellGreerOfficial a lot easier to say when it’s not you losing that much money, and getting the finger when trying to get it back….

[@nataSoN]

helL Oh welL. They are all dead bitcoinless dorks.

[@aprilbouknightmarquez6340]

Those punks got what they deserved.. sorry not sorry ​@RussellGreerOfficial

[@marcelchagnon4960]

Mad world

[@jackedkerouac4414]

Mark Wu has that crazy look in his eyes. You never know what someone is capable of over 17 grand especially when you keep taunting them.

[@eve9287]

Gambling never ends well smhhhhhh mark wu was insane but tbh its crazy you cant blame him jason tricked himbut the love and greed of money is always gokng to end in ruins

[@TNT-km2eg]

When you are already broadcasting such serious program , you should be able to edit and adjust volume

[@markbrenzel9419]

When Mark called the Atlanta Braves "Atlantic" you knew he knew nothing of sports betting. It's hard to tell from this episode the two roommates involvement in scamming Mark. Jason was gonna get his ass killed eventually. Jason was a major crook.

[@tylerpiret2712]

Sounds like they all got what they deserved

[@ginocavazos2153]

Well I think The Three racist punks got what they Deserve I have no sympathy for the three guys Mark woo did what he had to do I would have done the same thing

[@maricamaas2326]

Mark's parents are - to an extent - to be blamed for their son's eventual death; by unwisely making as much money available to their young son.

[@_MelissaRae_]

“I ain’t no killer but don’t push me” Man they took that man 17k and told him to kick rocks threatened him with a gun and everything…well Mark took that same gun and showed him I’m not to be played with

[@EmperorTikacuti]

I sense this commentary section will be controversial as the war in Ukraine 😂

[@danthompson5797]

I think it's pretty clear that they were bad kids

[@miketheevolutionslayer2649]

He might of got away from 1 judge but he will stand before a Judge No one can get away from after death.

[@Rara-pr9wg]

Such a waste of life

[@ba5hir]

At least he was found guilty after he took his own life, and I should say by doing that, he saved Tax Payers a lot of money for his imprisonment, and trail. 👍🏼

[@wyathvercum3991]

Those Bullies deserve this!!!

[@RussellGreerOfficial]

They deserved being shot in their sleep? Seems like Mark was the bully.

[@A_Muzik]

Well this story was just all around sad.

[@Pittbull13]

aww bullies

[@johnnythewalrus]

15:53 bet that garbage dude lost his job 🤣 "sure I picked up bin 127..." ...slacker...

[@helpyourcattodrive]

Wow.

[@CrispsApples]

Business in front party in back

[@johnnabuzby6103]

At the 16:56 mark, the picture of Mark Wu is chilling. He has an unmistakable look of evil in his eyes and on his face.

[@louiego574]

Not many mass killers kill them self i guessed he is very much remorseful e.g had have taken advantage off after taking pay back time sad story 😢

[@SukumarDevaguptapuLife-Smiles]

Any business for that matter, if a client loses money, his anger will be unstoppable, like the thunderstorm, with consequences. So better get talking frankly, to mitigate/make up for the loss, -- that way, not only you live.. but get another chance..!

[@ATATAT996]

I’m with Mark on this one