Forensic Files Season 11, Episode 14 - Dark Waters - Full Episode

[@darkwillow57]

Kudos to Forensic Files for the boat jumping reenactment.

[@unamilan2978]

Yes I was thinking the very same thing, I hadn't seeing this episode of forensic files, I enjoyed watching it but I'm really for young man loosing his life, I lost my son my only child to disease few years ago and still cry every day. His mother will be crying for rest of her life.

[@dipuomararela-hoefig5078]

I still maintain that Peter Thomas is the all time greatest crime story narrator ever!!

[@AmericanFUBAR33]

absolute GOAT.

[@scottymartin9934]

I agree

[@bfer95]

Yes along with Robert Stack

[@johnbasedow8973]

Him and bill Curtis

[@missdeejay]

Second place, after Robert Stack

[@ipdmetal]

The victim was also at fault for not turning his lights on and not tying his boat to the dock. But I also recognize that you could still get hurt even if you have done the proper safety protocol if another boat with a severely impaired driver crashed straight into you. In this case, the other boat driver, Floyd Wright made the fatal mistake of driving a boat in dark waters while inebriated. Both sides made a fatal mistake.

[@s_mp_08]

True, the victim not knowledgeable enough to ride a boat and the suspects for not coming forward to the police after the accident etc.

[@apointtomake1517]

They were also driving too fast without being able to see. They should not have been going as near as fast. If you are just aiming your boat at a light source but cant see, you should be crawling around, not near top speed.

[@user-hh5rn4jz6o]

Excellent, fair analysis

[@MrJlee93]

Great point. None are completely at fault

[@Stiasteny]

Yeah, he probably also didn't stop because he was relatively drunk... @@apointtomake1517

[@megannason3649]

Definitely these guys were going too fast in the dark, but the victim boat had no lights on and had drifted into the lane of travel, so they were partially at fault. If the first boat had actually stopped and figured out what they had hit, they probably wouldn’t have even been charged or anything.

[@Rye-jl2fk]

If they were past the legal limit of intoxication, they're still getting charged with something. I think they fled the scene because they were drunk and knew they would be in some kind of trouble but no one can prove that, so the punishment was appropriate.

[@ScarabChris]

Life long boater here, Miami Florida area so I have seen a lot of crashes and stories of horrible crashes especially at night. So no propeller damage, a prop can be changed in a matter of a few mins even while in the water. Blood in suspect boat did not match the victims....well it wouldn't since the suspect boat ran right over the top of the victim boat. Any of the victims blood would only be on the bottom of the suspect boat but washed off in a matter of 2 seconds once the boat lands from the collision. The lack of victim blood in the suspect boat and no damage to suspect boat propeller should not even be considered a reason to eliminate the suspect boat. That being said the cause of this crash was no lights on the victim boat, that is #1. The 2nd catalyst was running your boat at night when you can't see in front of you. If it's dark you only drive as fast as you are comfortable with hitting something at the chosen speed. The suspect boat could just as easily of hit a log or a dock or a jetty causing injury and death to themselves. Just look at the Florida Marlins baseball player that crashed his boat in Miami at night. Even if you know the waters like the back of your hand you do not run at speed if you can't see at least 50 yards in front of you. That goes for daytime as well in the event of a rain storm. Of course being drunk makes you think you are invincible. But I have seen crashes like this when everyone was sober. Very poor choices made by both parties. Drifting at night in a navigational area with no lights on is nuts. Makes my hair stand up just thinking about it. All it takes is a bit of inexperience from a stone cold sober boater to turn that quiet night into a nightmare.

[@gurkanco2208]

I can not help but hate those crap-type of living organisms in the form of a human being. How irresponsible you got to be drunk-riding a boat in the dark, when you can not see where you are going. She is very lucky for surviving that crash.

[@ThisIsJ.Nicole]

Safety is utmost importance in these kinds of situations but so is honesty.

[@Myspace1986]

I know absolutely nothing about boats, never been on one other then the Chichimaun. But I still know that at night time to keep lights on for your safety sake and others as well.

[@Mila-ie5bw]

It's no different than turning all your lights off in the middle of the highway... it's irresponsible...

[@s_mp_08]

Fr

[@JR-fl3yx]

Agreed. It sucks the guy died, but he was (at least partially) at fault for not having his nav lights on.

[@johnnabuzby6103]

Operating a car or boat while you're drunk, as well as going too fast for the conditions under which you're operating is also irresponsible. Both parties made poor choices, not just the victim of the collision.

[@imtryinghere1]

Very stupid to have no lights on. Any boater knows this

[@molara7607]

Regardless if they were drunk any sober person would’ve still hit them. Their lights were OFF.

[@JasonFlorida]

Exactly!

[@nicholasshade]

My brother just came here and asked for one of my dad's cigarettes. I gave him one. He said he was late for work and would probably run out of gas. ⛽ He said he would probably syphon some gas from our lawnmower. I'm watching Forensic File's. I couldn't go back to sleep after my dog woke me up. He was digging through our trash. I let him stay in for a little while, but had to take him outside. Because he started acting up. The backdoor was wide open. I missed the live stream I go into over magic. It's very upsetting. I've missed like 5 or 6 sessions. I've only been to 1 meeting.💛

[@kimmyfreak200]

but they should have called police...an accident can be understood they fled

[@nicholasshade]

@Peter Paulsen right now I'm just drinking on some cola's I got from my mom's house. Her and my brother are about to go the viewing of one of our friends at the funeral home. He got shot to death this past weekend.🖤

[@nicholasshade]

@Peter Paulsen one of his wife's cousin's. He got shot in the face 3 times.🖤

[@leeannfrohn88]

This is a great example why rules should be followed by everyone!

[@CalebOliver]

This is one of the most interesting cases of I’ve seen on forensic Falls. I love finding new episodes. RIP to the victim that passed away and I feel sad for the other victim who got injured. God bless them. 🙏🏾💚

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

What is that Journalist talking about ? 'Being intoxicated shouldn't be a way out' blabla.. what do you mean? Anyone could & probably would have hit a boat, in the dark.. that was sitting still with no lights in the middle of a boating lane. 1. People on shore that heard her yelling didn't have the sound of the wake & a boat motor in their ear. 2. They aren't placing ANY blame on the victim for putting himself & his passenger in danger by not tying up the boat & not having lights on. Would it be someone's fault if they came around a corner at night and hit a car parked in the middle of the road? No.

[@ScarabChris]

Just to clear up the idea that there is no way you can hit a boat and think you hit a log so let me share a story of my own. I had a 30' Scarab (hence my username) which is a "go-fast" boat with twin engines. My wife and I were running offshore in Miami at about 45 MPH. It was a clear beautiful day. All of a sudden I see in the water in front of me an object floating. It was to late I was hitting it. The object was a dock piling which is basically the same wood poles used for telephone/power poles. It was floating with 90% of the mass under the surface. When I hit this pole my entire boat went airborn just like you saw in the reenactment in this video where the blue boat goes airborn. My boat was 30+ feet in length and weighs 6000+ pounds and at 45 MPH the boat got a good 4-5 feet of air before coming down. I did some minor damage to my hull and engines but not enough to rush to shore. So it is entirely possible to hit a small boat at that speed and not know if it were a massive log, a dock piling or a 18' boat. Especially in the pitch black waters and no lights on the boat you hit. The only thing I don't believe is that the boaters stopped but saw and heard nothing. They did. I went back to see what I hit and was amazed it was only a 10' length of dock piling. It felt like a ramp!

[@jamesstreet228]

Ive done the exact same thing with 2 friends and we hit a log and it almost threw all 3 of us out of the boat. We lost 2 rod and reels and a 22 pistol. And, obviously hitting a smaller boat the bigger boat is going to push the smaller one down which will absorb some of the energy. I 100% believe they could have not known what they hit. Whether they heard the screams of the girl, who's to say? She could have been unconscious or stunned and not started screaming until they left. It's all speculation of course but it's also speculation that they could have heard the girl screaming. I was in the US Navy for 6 years. We were in dense fog once and the fog horn sounding up front would rip your ear drums out. But, on the fantail you couldn't even hear it at all. Sound travels different over open water.

[@blackism4everokpeyen871]

This narrator is just too good in his voice,he always gives me chills whenever I am listening to his narrative

[@Johnieboi]

The people on the boat that got hit were mostly to blame for the accident. The other guys shouldn’t have left the accident scene.

[@Dzzy123]

I don't think Nasreen is in the best position to hate the other boaters since there was negligence on her boat's end.

[@LyraReid]

She doesn't seem to care that her buddy died either

[@antonfloor344]

‘A V-shaped white boat with an inboard/outboard motor’ dude just describes 99% of all the boats.

[@Project2013B]

Probably want to differentiate from those neffarious catamaran boats..... or some rogue Hawaiin Outrigger.

[@tikibar1169]

She’s very lucky to be alive. Did the boat that hit them have lights on!? 2 boats at night with no lights, smh

[@synergisticcollusion134]

The boat that hit them did have their lights on.

[@carolinemcallister1473]

The boat was unlit in the boat lane. Four years was too long a sentence. Anyone would have hit that boat, drunk or not.

[@aliyahf9104]

Maybe the sentence also reflects that he fled the scene?

[@kimmyfreak200]

they fled ...its the same as a hit and run

[@carolinemcallister1473]

No. Regardless of fleeing, that sentence was unreasonable, to me.

[@alysononoahu8702]

Perp had 1)no lights 2) at night 3)going too fast

[@aprilbouknightmarquez6340]

BS

[@clipp7777]

These scientists are amazingly brilliant!!!!

[@nickcopeland6915]

Just a thought. Maybe Nazreen was stunned for a while and didn't start screaming until Floyd was gone.

[@tiffaninichole]

My thoughts too. Not an excuse, but definitely the thought I had!

[@zakariafarah1101]

That could have been a possibility if she was not struck but her arm was shredded by the propeller

[@steelycubsfan3460]

This is a case in which both sides were equally at fault.

[@clumsytriangle2436]

this sounds like BS. It was an accident, and the victim was reckless. He didn't tie up his boat or put lights on. and the detective seems to think he knows what the situation was when the collision happened and straight after, saying he can't believe they couldn't hear the woman's screams. I don't believe the woman was even able to scream immediately after the collision.

[@minakiel2930]

they still fled the scene. that alone is worth the 4 year sentence

[@shawnahulsey6184]

I agree 100% I've been on the water at night. It's pitch black and you wouldn't know what u hit or now what kind of damage u may have. One had better get out of the water immediately... One thing the guy did do wrong once he knew he hit them from the news source. Admit to it and get a good lawyer. He should have NEVER went to prison! The other boat fully caused the accident!

[@myrasevilla8564]

I agree with you.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

@@shawnahulsey6184So, it’s okay for Jon and Floyd to be wasted and drive their boat on a lake, late at night with little to no visibility, and going at ridiculous speeds?? No. It’s not. They’re just as responsible for the crash as Harry was

[@dorindadouglas2847]

They're definitely lying about not seeing or hearing anything. How can your conscience allow you to keep going and not help?? I'm so sorry he lost his life, but you DO NOT do anything in the water at night without your lights on. Boating 101.

[@kimthomas8717]

It’s hard for me to fathom the selfishness it took for those guys to flee the scene . There’s no way they didn’t hear that poor girl ! No way

[@davidfeltz8697]

Or not known they hit something like a boat and not a log!

[@blackadam6445]

They knew it. They made a choice to save their skins versus help the injured and risk being identified. I can’t imagine the fear she must’ve had.

[@Rye-jl2fk]

I personally could never do that to someone but I know there's a ton of people that would do the same as these guys.

[@rossdawgsbrokenspirit9038]

How do you not turn your lights on in pitch black dark on a lake?!!

[@robertshepherd8543]

Only four years. Thanks to the detectives and forensics guys

[@Atlargein]

Sorry to ask but did the victim have alcohol in his system also?

[@lisaallen695]

A horrible accident that probably could have been avoided if the victims boat had running lights.

[@beyondthedetails]

Sometimes these cases are ridiculous. Once they saw the lights where not on on the Boat and they are in the "Boat Lane" they are at fault.

[@timhinchcliffe5372]

Happens alot in shipping channels... the sole occupant of a yacht goes to bed (nautical law broken: nobody on watch) and the yacht drifts into a shipping channel... gets hit by a container ship. Yacht occupant plays victim because the ship "didn't stop." In reality, a ship that size _can't_ stop in a shipping channel or they will drift and run aground.

[@MG-ru5pi]

I missed the start be having the tap on in my kitchen, and the entire time I was thinking “but did they have their lights on..” because so many boating accidents are due to night driving without lights! Then at 17:00 it says they didn’t have their lights on. This accident is horrible, but other boaters cannot see you if you don’t have your lights on- whether they are intoxicated or not. It’s like driving a car at night on a highway without your lights on. He should’ve reported the accident right away though,

[@dennisstrope8912]

In all honesty… both parties at to blame don’t drive a boat drunk… turn your lights on to be seen

[@thewillofabeast9079]

It was the middle of the night and they shouldn’t have been driving their boat while intoxicated and at those ridiculous speeds.

[@lup6974]

You do not have hate anyone until the end of your life. It is your choice but you are only young to understand it.

[@jamesl9371]

I don’t understand people driving a speeding boat at night and it’s dark and they can’t see. I think it’s obviously extremely reckless and dangerous and irresponsible. It makes no sense. It’s even more stupid than driving a car drunk

[@corwilliams3098]

the guy admitted they were drunk, hence the recklessness

[@jamesl9371]

@@corwilliams3098 reckless and criminal. I hope they suffered serious consequences

[@thewillofabeast9079]

Exactly. I understand that Harry made the mistake of not tying his boat to the dock and not having lights on. But Jon and Floyd made the poorer choice in driving their boat with very little to no lighting and driving at ridiculous speeds while intoxicated.

[@kagomefan101]

The victim’s lights were off, yes, but so were the offending boat’s. And there is absolutely NO excuse to be driving drunk. And even if they couldn’t see what they hit, they HAD to have heard the girl screaming her head off. They should’ve stopped or at least reported it right away. I can’t believe some people are actually placing all the blame on the victims. 🤦‍♀️

[@linkfreak1176]

I don't remember anyone saying that the drivers boats lights were off. They victim is absolutely partially at fault.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

@@linkfreak1176Well, Wright’s boat was going at dangerous speeds and he, along with Jon, were intoxicated with very little to no lighting, at least, judging by the reenactment. The visibility is little to nothing. Harry made the mistake of not tying his boat to the dock and not turning the lights on but what Jon and Floyd were doing seemed more stupid compared to what Harry did.

[@pb-gf9rc]

At no point in the entire episode did they say that the offending boat’s lights were off goofball

[@nhanha7433]

Same with driving the truck in fog or at dark

[@mr.x8259]

John looks like a thin version of Milton from Office Space.

[@nhanha7433]

Drifting and no marking light

[@CherryPi314]

I’m from a commercial fishing family, so both sides made mistakes & it’s awful, but ownership on both sides should be acknowledged. A Sad case; both are at fault & it’s at such a cost. First boat no lights: you’re an idiot. Second boat hauling ass: you’re an idiot. Nobody wins. Very sad. Lights ON, and don’t haul ass when your headed back to the marina....

[@ted1091]

He must have been going waaaay too fast

[@stevengirton3745]

4 years for causing the death of someone. Unbelievable. What kind of justice system is that?

[@KarenStark-x2x]

Totally agree and was thinking the same, at least 15yrs min

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Because it was with mitigating factors: the victim's boat lights were not on.

[@steelycubsfan3460]

It wasn't intentional and the victim, Harry Uhl, didn't have his lights on and the boat was drifting so it was his fault too.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

I grew up in and around Ithaca. Cayuga is the second largest. Seneca lake is the biggest.

[@Jennifer-mq7ph]

Lol .... his intro reminded me of billy crystals opening scene "the night was ..." 😅🙋‍♀️ throw mama from the train, anyone ???

[@aaprii333]

Oh my goodness! That's 1 of my all time favorites!!!🤗🤗🤗🥰❣️

[@Jennifer-mq7ph]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@jamesstreet228]

The boat that hit the was partly to blame but the other boat was also partly to blame. It's a wonder people on the other boat weren't killed as well.

[@kevinsysyn4487]

I'm surprised he was convicted and sentenced to prison. There really was little concrete evidence of criminality (though it appears obvious). No evidence that he was drunk or negligent (though he may have been). Emotional claims he would have heard screams seem doubtful as the sound of his own engine and the speed tells me he was likely quite a long distance away by the time anyone screamed. And it was dark. Evidence that he knew he hit a boat is also lacking, though one policeman said he would have seen the boat in his lights is not evidence. The victim may well have been the negligent one. Reasonable doubt.

[@gunzakimbo]

The dude got 4 years in prison. Even if the victims' were negligent (Which they were) I'm going to assume not having your lights on is as negligent as drinking while driving a boat to which they admitted doing (Also while driving with a suspended license). They're clearly lying about turning around cause you have to assume if the friends don't call medical personal immediately the girl's dead as well from blood loss so the friends would've seen them coming back to check what they hit (Speculation, but fairly confident in my conclusion). The cops only got to him from his friend reporting the accident AND he also tried to hide evidence by fixing the boat. With our corrupt system, this dude could've easily got charged with vehicular manslaughter with leaving the scene as well and got decades if not life! He's lucky beyond belief that they only got him with tampering with physical evidence and failing to report an accident.

[@KarenStark-x2x]

Are you for real, still speculating? Please🤬 sounds like you should be a defence attorney

[@1978garfield]

The guy that got killed was popular. Hence the outrage and the downplaying of the facts, the victim had no lights and drifted into the boating lane. If the guy would have come forward as soon as the story hit the news he might not have been charged. I can actually believe they didn't know what they hit and when they turned around they didn't see or hear anything. There were no lights and the sound of the outboard can cover a lot. I suspect they covered a lot of ground before they got stopped and in the dark with no lights on the other boat it would be hard to find exactly where they were when they hit something. By not coming forward when the story hit the news and not even coming forward when his friend did the guy screwed himself. I suspect if Joe Blow had gotten hit instead of local legend once they found out that Mr. Blow did not have his lights on and had drifted into the boating lane that would have been the end of it.

[@fatfr0g570]

I can’t stop thinking about the Finger Lakes guy from The Office

[@Sebsiseq]

This case is BS, guy lost his life for being an irresponsible boater if this girl wants to hate someone, she should be hating her driver. Although even if these guys really didn't know what they hit, as soon as they saw the news on it, they should have come forward.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

Jon and Floyd still shouldn’t have been going at those ridiculous speeds. Even if it was the middle of the night, that doesn’t mean there’s not something or someone out there. The same goes for Harry. He made the mistake of not tying his boat his having the lights off but he probably thought nobody else was on the lake. Just because Harry made a poor choice, that doesn’t mean he deserved to die, especially at his young age and in that manner.

[@violettaplatar8341]

It looks like Uhl may have either had a little too much alcohol in his veins or no prior experience in navigation, because his mistakes are not easy to explain. just as important as knowing if the perpetrators were drunk was to know the distance Uhl's boat drifted apart from the shore at the time of the collision.

[@Kidlopo1974]

But what accident WAS that other boat in?!?

[@allenmitchell09]

Good question. They said they found blood that they tested from it. Maybe it was involved in an accident as well.

[@craig221]

You operate a boat without any lights. And that click it's not your fault for the accident? Of course it is. It's all their fault. The guy didn't deserve four years in prison. Maybe some probation.

[@MarlaRochette]

Ty

[@8luvbug]

What is wrong with the victim? Why would he just let his boat drift while he's waiting on his friends and didn't turn on his lights?

[@Holychickendinner]

Are you victim blaming? Do you really know better than the person who was actually in the situation? 🙄🙄🙄 It's almost like even victims make stupid decisions, isn't it? SMH.

[@8luvbug]

@Holychickendinner How is that victim blaming? This guy had friends who were waiting on him but he let his boat drift away and doesn't turn on his lights? It doesn't make sense. Nowhere in my comment did I blame the victim 🤡

[@jamesl9371]

And if I operated a boat at night I would have lots of lights on it

[@IronMike-f8i]

He never took the right precautions 😢😢

[@Spoiler647]

19:18 Four years in prison for killing someone and leaving the scene? Not to mention disabling the second person? Ridiculous

[@peacefulpatriots]

John ottenschott is a criminal, for refusing to admit the driver was drunk

[@timothywomac9254]

This was the perfect storm of mistakes. I still feel like that Wright was rewarded for running away from the scene of an accident. And his friend was rewarded big time for eventually turning him in.

[@1978garfield]

What would they have charged the friend with? He wasn't driving. It isn't illegal to be a drunk passenger in a boat.

[@evelynmiranda9072]

It doesn’t matter whether he was a celebrity or not. He was a human being.

[@GIJoe3333]

I'm gonna have to blame the victim for this one. Drunk or not. Anyone could've hit his boat. Driving a car with no lights on. Flying a plane with no lights on. A Captain sailing ship with no lights on. Are all responsible for their actions.

[@andrewbochicchio2232]

They were drunk and yet they supposedly got the boat out of the water and all the way back to this guy's house I just don't get this story

[@kevinsysyn4487]

@ 45MPH in 15 seconds he'd be more than 1,000 feet away which is before anyone had a chance to scream. Together with his roaring engine it seems plausible that he never heard a thing.

[@monanina4172]

Da lake was deep nite dark!”😱

[@bumblebeechris]

here is some other video that points out some details that were missed

[@bumblebeechris]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqnLhpScbtyaocU&ab_channel=TrueCrimeDaily

[@chasingdemons7231]

The guy that was on the boat that came forward to the police is in denial about what he saw and he is lying his ass out there is no way that they did not see what they hit after the fact especially if a woman was screaming bloody murder they definitely heard that.

[@thechinavirusmadeinchina3811]

But still, the other boat SHOULD by Law have had his lights on, then more than likely it would NOT have happened .. BOTH boat owners are to blame NOT just 1 ...

[@larryyouguessame6078]

Why were his lights off?…sheesh..

[@joshuasteel2109]

Who in the world go out boating at night without no marker lights not too smart terrible to hear. I’m not blaming nobody or even taking aside, but I wouldn’t go driving my car without lights. I don’t think I’d drive my boat either with no lights.

[@johnkonstantopoulos8192]

if they had no lights ....how could he see them ...i owe a boat and 40 years ago i could kill two idiots in a small boat without lights..... What saved them..? One of them had a lighter..[for smoking ] and he signal just 20 meters before i send them to Saint Peter... Thank God .. Leaving the victims is something even 70% of car drivers do ...that means 70% of the population... and this has to do with the fear of been accused of murder ... and going to prison for somebody else's fault..

[@joelhanson5429]

they went to prison because they left them there to die, No way you leave the air and not think you hit something, even if its a log

[@johnkonstantopoulos8192]

@@joelhanson5429 i don't excuse them...they should call the police....

[@rodgerpiercearchitect]

…sht I can’t get on the lake without having several shots lol

[@douglasmacomber2277]

I grew up on boats. You never not have your lights on and 2nd he should have tied off. Im saying that cause if the current is that strong like they say ? Common sense is tie off the boat or use a couple lines and stand on the dock . Why was he traveling so fast? Isnt there a no wake zone there? I would think so with docks around there? Unless he really drifted far out? There both guilty the jerk that left and unfortunately the novice boat owner .nobody wins and honestly he took off because he was legally drunk Guaranteed!! 4 years isn't enough? The young woman has "for a lack of a better word" Mutilated forearm ... I have some serious scars from and idiot drinking and driving, so yeah people stare at you 👀 I'm older now and I wear mine like a badge of honor!!! My gf and driver are dead.

[@donmakaveli2227]

Moral of the story: Hit and run, then later claim you didn't see nothin' or hear nothin'. BOOM! Sentence reduced from 10+ years (manslaughter) to mere 4 months!!!!

[@gloriaambrose2840]

Their lights were off Anyone could have hit them

[@rehab5355]

4 years

[@nachoman408]

I can't feel sorry for nasreen just because of her poor me, it's all about me attitude. Not once did she mention feeling sorry for the dead victim

[@Ninergal91-w3y]

Does Raza have any feelings over the death of Uhl or is it all about her?

[@Rambo-pz4bi]

The lake was dark Night was deep

[@Tenamf]

4 years WHAT unreal 🙄

[@janicewolk6492]

The reporter is wrong about proving intoxication. So do not hate.

[@juliebarnett9812]

They convicted my son after the fact, after he had car problems and walked home. They charged him with DUI, but there were no witnesses, and he had been home for hours.

[@TitusObbayi]

Sad situation with the man's death and injury to the girl, but this accident was 100% the fault of the victim. It's completely nuts to drift into a boating lane on a pitch black night with no lights on. Just because the other boat's driver was drinking it does not logically make him the person who caused the accident. That would be an entirely separate offense.

[@killerpussy84]

The drunk driver did not have any lights on either. So no, it's NOT a 100% the victim's fault.

[@kagomefan101]

No it’s not 100% their fault. The offending boat did not have it’s lights on either. There is NO excuse to be driving drunk. They also knew they hit something, and clearly would’ve heard the girl’s screams. They should’ve stopped or reported it immediately. That boat is just as responsible as the victims!

[@justinbarnes3302]

Was it necessary to go through all the forensics when the guys admitted to it?

[@Highheels4ever]

Nasreen Raza should count her blessings everyday for being a survivor of that boating accident. She should also say “thank you God” for saving her life and her arm. Her arm is deformed, yes, but at least she still has it on attached to her body. Very lucky young girl, very lucky. As for Harry Ul, it was unfortunate that he lost his life being so young. Maybe he should have tightened up the boat, and keeping his boat lit up…..then perhaps, this accident would have never happened. 4 years after hitting the other boat??? Was that a joke??? A life was lost, so why not charge this man with the death of Harry Ul??? A miscarriage of justice. He is only serving 4 years, then out of prison to enjoy life while Harry is 6 feet underground never to return to this life. Sickening, and totally unacceptable.

[@nhanha7433]

On the chart

[@timhinchcliffe5372]

The dead boat operator was completely negligent. It's just like putting your car in drive with no handbrake and letting it roam onto a highway at night with no lights on... doesn't matter if the driver of a car that hits it is drunk or not.

[@stevenclay9573]

They would never convict a Kennedy on such a case. Sad that so many lives were destroyed by this.

[@kyplummer3657]

Man idk about this one guys I love forensic files but I’m pretty sure a sober person wouldn’t see an unlit boat in the dark. Maybe they were going to fast I guess but sadly the victim play a huge role in his accident.

[@limbicbrain1]

If it was an accident and Harry's boat was sitting there, late at night with no lights on, why wouldn't they stop?

[@unamilan2978]

There were lots of mistakes was made by both sides. Unfortunately mistakes are very costly. When I had my little business I always made sure that I would say measure one check twice and measure again for they are costly. And I'm genuinely sorry such a young promising life lost and one young life injured forever.

[@80Ragincajun]

all about her, she said nothimg about the guy she was with that died. smh

[@thisravenhasflown010]

The only clues were some vinegar and salt chips, a foamy beer and the broken tail light of an Amish buggy, would it be enough to find the killer?😮😊😂😂

[@ted1091]

Also it's a local community. Surely Wright read about the accident and that someone had been killed

[@elioraimmanuel]

WHY would you not tie your boat?! No running lights?! Insane! Having grown up on a boat I would say all involved were drunk and/or high. What I saw and experienced as a child I chose not to go that way.

[@Finnador]

The victim might have been drinking as well. To not be aware that his untied boat has drifted into the shipping lane. As for the perpetrator; I'm guessing he immediately sobered-up after hearing the screams; and went into get-away mode,

[@danielholt6741]

What a shame. I would never drive at night. Too many drunks and people on drugs.

[@Project2013B]

Can't "Arm Girl" sue the crap out of both boaters in a civil trial? Also: doesn't the boat passenger that got immunity look exactly like the kind of guy that gets drunk on a boat?

[@timhinchcliffe5372]

Where's the proof that they "heard the screams"? At the start of the video they mentioned the lake has "currents". What if the vessel drifted far enough that they couldn't hear the screams over the noise of their own vessel's engine? And was she screaming straight away or was she knocked out or in shock immediately?

[@tylertrudelle8520]

only sentenced to 4 years?!?!

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

Little doctor lady officially has the first cute NY accent in history.

[@2ndMess]

The two perpetrators have those creepy dead eyes. Seeing ghosts?

[@amateurauthor1402]

common sense can go a long way.

[@maburwanejohannes4647]

This was a pure accident, the suspect made a mistake by fleeing the scene probably because maybe he knew his alcohol level was high and the prosecutors would have used that to their advantage...

[@ba5hir]

Or he panicked.

[@MrsSumangaVlog]

When you though accident road is dangerous enough and here's this tragic incident that happened on the ocean.

[@hashpling]

"Weave the scwene of a cwime." That lady