Taser X12 XREP: A Taser in a Shotgun Shell

[@Z45HR4]

I remember seeing this thing on Future Weapons way back in the day. Funny to see it on Forgotten Weapons now.

[@brianyoung3324]

That's hilarious! Now I'm curious, I feel like most of the stuff on there turned out to be duds.

[@Gundam944]

@@brianyoung3324 Unfortunately a lot of stuff was. From the stuff I can remember: Dragon Skin Armor: Was kinda junk. I believe it folded after multiple lawsuits. It's been decertified and is not worn by any company/military/police department. Dazzler light: Not really sure what happened. Kinda just disappeared. LRAD: Actually worked really well. I believe Obama banned the use of sonic weapons.

[@sanro_eh]

You nailed bro. 😅😅😅

[@JackManiacky]

The future is now old man. I remember that too. We're old :(

[@grilledchicken5301]

Guess it was the future of nothing

[@RamadaArtist]

"So it's a shotgun that shoots tasers?" "Yup." "What's the underbarrel attachment?" "More tasers."

[@julius855]

Dont forget the rails on the grip so you can attach more tasers

[@m0skaudancer]

It's tasers all the way down.

[@Timbobjr]

I used to joke about using the quad-rails on my Saiga 12 to mount 4, 1,000 lumen flashlights. I would never have to fire the gun, just flash them on and off as fast as I can

[@legendofzeldathemes]

Julius 85 “Tactical Tasers”

[@lagarn9431]

The underbarrel should have been an M203

[@scorch855]

Australia: A crossbow is a firearm. US: A taser shotgun is not a firearm.

[@augustussutton2379]

Maybe be a little less Wolf Creeky Australia, and then maybe we'll talk about you being trusted with real guns.

[@mimicopenthatchest3297]

@@augustussutton2379 Oh, yeah definitely. Because psychotic serial killers also have just as hard a time getting access to firearms than the average larrykin - oh wait... In all seriousness though, it's ridiculous that ANY kind of airsoft is also considered firearms here, it's depressing.

[@finkamain1621]

@@mimicopenthatchest3297 I'm Canadian and our airsoft guns are not classified as firearms although we have a dumb import law from US sellers for them to shoot between 366 or 500 feet per second. You can still buy airsoft guns in Canada that are 500fps+ or modify them and it doesn't make sense for the the 365 and under FPS to be banned from US import

[@NigelThornbery]

Comrade Gulag of OurTube just the thought of having any restrictions on airsoft guns is sad.

[@jesuschrist2373]

@@4945656 It'd be fun to shoot but really impractical for any other reason.

[@ericcarlile9065]

All it needs is “Dewalt” painted on it

[@AgentTasmania]

DeVolt? DeWatt?

[@dfgiuy22]

Under-rated....

[@FoxtrotFleet]

How about Hyperion?

[@isaiahkoufos3573]

Lmaooo

[@MarxDream]

@Luis Hartmann woosh

[@chstra45]

I feel like we're getting closer to a video of Ian going over a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. "Thank you for tuning into Forgotten Weapons, I'm the hologram of Ian McCollum..."

[@ab5olut3zero95]

Flannel Daddy did one of the rifle from HALO so anything’s possible...

[@teodoreberbach3651]

@@ab5olut3zero95 umm, which one? BR55 seems fine to me, but MA3 and all derivatives are seem to me kinda non-real since their mags are so close to the buttstock.

[@halo7oo]

@@teodoreberbach3651 I think in 2555 they'll have some pretty advanced stuff we couldn't dream of. He did the MA37.

[@kentallard8852]

He just recently reviewed the gun used to make the terminator guns in Terminator 2

[@jasonhill8696]

Teodor Eberbach apparently the MA37 has a bolt that folds in on itself and the spring pulls the bolt forward instead of pushing it

[@Snyperwolf91]

The first shotgun that does elemental damage . Still waiting for the Fire and Ice magnum.

[@joshuahadams]

Iirc the original gunpowder firelances from c.1100CE were basically muzzle-loaders that doused the (relatively close) target with shrapnel and burning powder.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Dragon's breath So we have fire and lightning There a shell that has a fertilizer/seed packet thing So there's earth We just need water and air

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Wait I bet you can fire liquid nitrogen capsules some how so there's ice/water.

[@badideagenerator2315]

If you get the cartridges muddy, the grit launched out with the pellets does additional earth damage.

[@johanbjorkman1914]

@@mondaysinsanity8193 What about water guns and hair dryers.

[@5chr4pn3ll]

"So I took my flamethrower, but I put a spring loaded boxing glove and mounted it underneath. Just in case you know"

[@paulrossner1405]

TaCtIcAl

[@Mr_Blonde-ru9kd]

You know, I'd buy that gadget if I could, and mount it on a shotgun

[@dutchman55]

Mr_Blonde 1992 same

[@joshred1571]

For home invaders

[@joshred1571]

Note I specified multiple because that would take out multiple

[@jakobc.2558]

The 40mm granade launcher version must have hit like a truck...

[@koelkast9]

*thump *

[@jakobc.2558]

* followed by a loud *ZAP* sound and a scream *

[@koelkast9]

@@jakobc.2558 and now im sitting here laughing by myself in the train.

[@sopmodtew8399]

*thump*

[@LabFind]

.... he's dead, Jim

[@n3rdy11]

"We heard you like tasers so we put a taser on your taser so you can tase while tasing"

[@RosewoodActual]

and they say excessive force isn’t real 😩

[@chris52209]

@@RosewoodActual in USA it isn't (This was a joke dont be a snowflake)

[@joshwist556]

@@chris52209 *LAUGHS IN RUSSIAN* “Ivan bring T34, Dimitri is drunk again.”

[@jamesworley2674]

Taser face!

[@rameybutler6555]

winner!

[@Gameprojordan]

when you mentioned "40mm grenade launching variant" i pictured a china lake with a yellow stock and pump handle

[@tighlia3375]

So, this exact -not- weapon, just upscaled.

[@metalbob3335]

You can taze a whole soccer hooligan riot!

[@baconpantsable]

There is a future not too far off from ours where TESLA GRENADES are a real thing.

[@NareshSinghOctagon]

@@baconpantsable ,it'll be the lower power version of Star Wars EMP grenades that take down clankers.

[@brianyoung3324]

Collaboration between Tazer and Mossberg: Tazer: we developed an electrified, barbed chainshot projectile in a 12 gauge shell that can override a human's nervous system for 20 seconds Mossberg: here you go we made the gun yellow lol

[@haydenbob5974]

We should mention, it costs so much money that it *will* bankrupt pretty much any police station...

[@GiDD504]

Hayden Bob how much are they charging the police per unit? Sad that cops don’t have the funding for stuff like this.

[@jeremiahkelley890]

@@GiDD504 there is no way the police do not have funding things like this

[@GiDD504]

Jeremiah Kelley have you ever talked to an officer?? Have you ever seen their funding??? You are grossly mistaken.

[@sebastianriz4703]

@@jeremiahkelley890 do your research next time. The grand majority of PDs use used/hand-me-down military equipment. They are poor

[@themilkman8710]

Designing shotgun shells has just became "How much dangerous shit can we stuff in this plastic tube". And I love it

[@Breadlootgoblin]

To be fair it's a pretty effective design logic

[@timothyj4702]

The 2.0 version of the shells have poisoned tipped barbs and make you shit your pants.

[@CrudeConduct666]

Seems Ian finally dropped for a microtransaction. I wouldn't pay for this skin though, personally.

[@CrudeConduct666]

@@onkelpappkov2666 XD Ian does seem the type to use a potato of a computer, just because it's older. "Forgotten Desktops" coming soon.

[@itstrilby2037]

Nah bro he got the rescue ranger from tf2

[@DirtyMike124x]

Too bad we didn't get to see his reaction video when he unboxed this skin

[@DirtyMike124x]

Fucking uwu

[@xoxo2008oxox]

Actually its a Rare Item Drop from Gun Jesus Boss!

[@georgewu4051]

Ian: "they were originally considering a 40mm grenade launcher version..." Me: "WHAT?"

[@DeviantOllam]

yes this was during their process of figuring out how much they could push their miniaturization of the tech.

[@Epikification]

More space to put electronics. I'm sure they'd have downed the powder load.

[@theluftwaffle1]

Just wait 5 years.. then.. *12 inch Battleship taser rounds* when you feel threatened from 6 kilometres away.

[@mythguard6865]

Shocking I know

[@pompadour_gagarin1723]

As an aside, French police ended up specifically developping a 40mm rubber bullet grenade launcher so... parallel developments.

[@thatonenathan3991]

“I made a taser shotgun” “Cool, but does it have a tactical attachment rail?” “Yes” “Do u have an attachment for it?” “Taser” “No, I meant the attachment” “I know”

[@justsomeplantcells-]

More tasers!

[@thatoldmilkcarton7029]

Tasers on Tasers

[@revivrevalchn3503]

Next, we take a look at non lethal .50 cal revolver.

[@AgentTasmania]

12.7mm rubber bullet or paintball, very light powder charge.

[@AstinCrow]

And of course an airsoft M1 Abrams

[@Mr_Blonde-ru9kd]

12.7 paint gun, 100% paint 0% usefulness

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

Those are non lethal. Try aiming that thing for an extended period of time. You’ll never hit anything with it.

[@casuallatecomer7597]

You know these comments with paintball guns remind me of the FN 303, it's a paintball gun for riot police developed by FN, and a prime candidate for Forgotten Weapons if Ian ever gets his hands on one.

[@infernaldaedra]

Sounded really cool but the round it fired looks insane.

[@dfailsthemost]

Looks like a steam punk shark tracker round.

[@_Boobz]

Definitely don't want to get hit by that sun of a bitch, regular tasers hurt bad enough

[@Tinhead426]

I got to see those shells in action at tech fair. Tazer also demonstrated thier riot control device that looked like giant over sized claymore. Which looked scary effective.

[@spacecowboy2483]

Yes, just showing the target subject the round about to be fired at it should be deterrent enough for most people

[@brolohalflemming7042]

ISTR one was used in the UK to stop a suspect, who I think died. Then some political kerfuffle about whether it was a Home Office approved device, or not. Also curious about what happens if you miss, and if that means there's a 'live' Taser mini-mine waiting for some unwary person to pick up and get zapped.

[@MrDDiRusso]

The biggest side effect of tasers is head injuries. When the target is hit, they can't control how they fall and will often hit their heads on the ground.

[@zendonin37]

at least its better then being shot with buckshot

[@usbiv223]

Don’t forget choking on the baggie of drugs the perp swallowed to avoid detection! Seriously, it’s a thing. Reuter’s did a whole series on TASRS about a year ago.

[@kevinbarber2795]

David DiRusso Better than bullet wound more often than not. Until we invent a pillow round to shoot under their head, it’s the best we got.

[@noahmiller4839]

@@kevinbarber2795 Im more concerned about law enforcement using them in situations where they arent necessary because they assume it wont be dangerous to the person on the receiving end (for instance use on a suspect who has their hands up and is standing still because they dont want to give him a chance to stop complying etc)

[@ThatCoolKidYouKnow]

I'm imagining the four needle barbs imbedded in accused perp.'s eyeball I'd rather be shot lol

[@WilhelmScreamer]

Hearng Ian describe a plant as "malevolent" and "evil" made my morning

[@PrusskiyMir]

3:51

[@anonymouskultist]

It absolutely is. Some of them will actually swing at you.

[@biiill5259]

Anonymous Kultist if you’re talking about the jumping kind it’s just that it’s barbs are shaped so that they actually dig in as far as they can when you touch them. Still not fun

[@bubba200874426]

The only thing competing with those things in malevolence is kudzu. The kudzu is coming for you. You will be assimilated.

[@zwickflixproductions4379]

You can brush a cholla and end up with 20+ spines in a tiny area. They look fuzzy but are genuinely evil.

[@arkadeepkundu4729]

This seems like something an American Pokemon trainer with Pikachu starter would carry. _Sir, Detective Pikachu really went to town on the riot mob, he's got a shotgun, please you need to stop him! Sir, please hurry, having round rocks thrown at him seems to have really triggered his PTSD, said something about killing everyone before going back into that damn ball._

[@moritz8183]

It reminds me of a nerf gun attached under another nerf gun I've seen multiple times. It looks good yet so horrible at the same time xD

[@rowdyzack5914]

Sounds like a dark, violent live-action reboot of Pokemon

[@cosmiclive4437]

This *is* the Pikachu

[@KuraIthys]

@@rowdyzack5914 I remember 20 or so odd years ago there was some fanfiction very much along those lines. Everyone had grown up, and it was almost a post-apocalypse world... Actually pretty good as far as fanfiction goes...

[@machomanrandysavage741]

Detective pikachu is done playing.

[@cageybee7221]

alternative name: the Gaussberg

[@solstice6505]

Underrated comment

[@magmat0585]

niiiiice.

[@ee214verilogtutorial2]

More like Teslaberg, gauss would work on electromagnetic field

[@cageybee7221]

@@ee214verilogtutorial2 r/wooosh

[@chinossynthesizer705]

Payday2 tazer lighting bolt

[@americanrepair]

That round looks straight out of Saw.

[@m78e6q5]

Check out the AA12 fragmentation round.

[@georgesears934]

"You'd be surprised what tools can save a life."- Amanda Young

[@johncage3025]

Get shot in the eye with that thing, wow

[@Wunderbolts]

"There are many less side effects of being tased than being hit with other police gadgets such as bullets"

[@XhumpersX]

Those are only for the black suspects.

[@sidevalve337]

I'm guessing no one has seen the video of the black dude not reacting to a taser

[@redhammer92]

@@sidevalve337 Probe must not have made connection, or had poor spread/only hit a limb. That level of electricity WILL cause your muscles to spasm uncontrollably. There is no toughing your way out of that.

[@kentuckyace1068]

@@redhammer92 there's these things called PCP and methamphetamine

[@sidevalve337]

@@redhammer92 gee it's almost like the taser isn't reliable enough for certain situations

[@cubefarmerhkc9105]

Glad to see Dewalt is really diversifying their product line.

[@chatdeblanc]

The lethal version of this is "I mounted a Glock under my Mossberg, just in case they're too far away."

[@kevintang5473]

You can also mount a zip22 underneath for a semi-lethal version

[@chatdeblanc]

@@kevintang5473 if it doesn't explode in your hand the minute you pull the trigger. Little garbage doodoo nerf gun.

[@9HighFlyer9]

Also "I mounted a Glock under my Mossberg, just in case they're too close."

[@woah5546]

@@chatdeblanc Exactly, you throw the gun to the enemy and when they try to use it they're knocked out.

[@0000Sierra117]

...fucking tupperware gun

[@redram5150]

“Hey, Bill! Will the iPhone charger work with the ammo?”

[@alexcarson9628]

I remember seeing this on "Future Weapons" in like 2009. did this seriously never make it through R&D?

[@williestyle35]

It made it through r & d, but no law enforcement agency bought enough for taser to continue ramping up production.

[@Hello-og]

@@williestyle35 Because they couldn't convince the politians to give them the budget to do so.

[@BRBMrSoul]

@@Hello-og compounded by fact what arms do have easy and “cheap” access to thx to war on drugs days(which did a whole lot of good in long run) are military surplus, and these obviously aren’t that Isn’t bureaucracy fun? :D

[@sargera1]

2012 was last year they even put out on web for sales

[@sargera1]

But the rounds are suitable for tracker rounds if u ever on a car chase

[@No11Scalpel]

Electrical shock induced paralysis is more a function of the current frequency. while current density & tissue impedance determines damage. That's why surgeons use extremely high frequency (higher than the neuronal depolarization rates) in surgery with high voltage to Coagulate & vaporize without muscular twitch

[@Paddy-zn4oo]

Ok Nerd

[@pluttinsnup6358]

r/iamverysmart

[@No11Scalpel]

@@pluttinsnup6358 🧐

[@Mamiya645]

Underwent surgery 2017 with a medical instrument like that, electrical hum and scent of burnt human flesh? On first incision we learned out that the local anesthetic given was not enough, with eyes closed my vision turned fully black for a second.

[@mattfleming86]

Whats your specialty? Electricity in medicine has always fascinated me- from probing a brain during tumor removal, TENS units, or cauterization. My wife is a veterinarian and we've considered acquiring real cauterization. There are certain procedures where it would be fantastic.

[@lycanrocx1121]

I remember seeing this on "future weapons" or something like that

[@jeremiahm3765]

Same. I miss that guy. Died of cancer I think.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

@@jeremiahm3765 Yes i think he did a few years ago.

[@ryanwatkins5547]

The best part of this is Ians description of cholla "Its this incredibly malevolent evil plant covered in little barbed spines... Its sort of a cactus"

[@SpoodDadoo]

Criminal: running away, out of taser range Officer: *loads electro shells with malicious intent*

[@Cpt_Zed]

Thug:whelp I am done for

[@thomasa5619]

Let’s hope they Australian cops “Run straight, if you zigzag they might hit you by accident!”

[@nikitaastakhov9252]

Officer: **purposely lets the criminal run from 35 feet** Criminal: oh sh- *PEW* how do I describe gun sounds

[@johny__hazmat8133]

YeeChannel 1 ...it sounds like a gun...*bang*

[@cageybee7221]

nah they just murder them in cold blood infront of half of the country. there will never be consequences so they don't care.

[@steinnbjorn7627]

*"I have 50,000 volts here with your name on them..." - Taser*

[@Insulted25]

Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!

[@bug_stonkin_wess1221]

God I fecken hate the goddamn tazer

[@jonathanbyron5403]

Fried chicken 😂😂

[@MazterHuntR]

I'm the fuckin' sparkman!

[@fascistlobster]

Voltage administered!

[@spacedoggo6591]

This looks like a toy gun that you’d find at a dollar store, ngl.

[@hailexiao2770]

It's even the right color for Dollar General

[@LedosKell]

Official weapon of the Dollar General Security Forces.

[@fongxiong1929]

What dollar store are you going?

[@Benjy52]

It’s to prove that it is non-lethal.

[@GeorgeThoughts]

That's the point! Clearly shows it's not a lethal weapon

[@crazyize1864]

This looks like a Home Depot branded shotgun

[@commanderfoxtrot]

What about the DeWalt assault rifle?

[@ndewingful]

Sorry I only buy from Ace

[@videodistro]

Home Depot is orange, not yellow.

[@romeo_alpha0176]

Dewalt 12g 20v lol

[@korbetthein3072]

The thought of Ryobi making a gun made my balls hide under my liver. Their drivers are more disposable than the bit you put in 'em.

[@SgtSly]

“Not that it hurts badly...” Oh Ian, but it does. It certainly does.

[@ZGryphon]

It does, but that's not why it's effective, is what I believe he's getting at.

[@joecruz4706]

@@ZGryphon I think he understood that, but he's saying it does hurt as well, gotten hit by an X26 voluntarily and that sucks, only lasts about 5 seconds but it's the longest 5 seconds ever.

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

8 seconds, it an 8 second ride.

[@joecruz4706]

@@theindooroutdoorsman One that I got hit by was programmed for 5.

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

@@joecruz4706 Everyone one I've ever been trained on was 8. Could be an older one or a non LE model.

[@onewhosaysgoose4831]

Taser company asked Kalashnikov "We want to increase our stun tech to not be outranged by a rock" The next day Kalashnikov delivers a dozen medium rocks with taser shock cartridges tapped to them. $20 a piece, and every South African warlord can effectively and safely use non-lethal force.

[@НелиелОксингейл]

But how are you supposed to eat your enemy if he wasn't propperly killed?

[@teslagamer24]

@@НелиелОксингейлthe taser ensures that they come pre cooked!

[@terran6686]

Well, we found it boys. The real life Rescue Ranger.

[@JohnDoe-oh2st]

Even if this costs $3000+ including cartridges and extra parts, I WANT to make this a thing.

[@ArcMedicalResearch]

oh wow that takes me back

[@JTawesome92]

I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@G1241-g7g]

@@JohnDoe-oh2st Me too.

[@theenglishmajor1198]

Next thing ya know the police will have deployable anti-riot turrets.

[@socksleeve]

I had completely forgotten about this, but hearing the words “taser shotgun” brings me back to fourth grade

[@CrudeConduct666]

You need to elaborate on that. What the hell happened ? 😂 And how old are you now? Do you mean like, you're still a kid and you saw this a year or two ago at Shot show, or like you're an old man and some crazy shit happened with a shotgun at your school in the 70s? I'm hella curious

[@alexanderclosson4729]

@@GMdrivingMOPARguy I think that seems about right

[@socksleeve]

FunWithFirearms in 2008 I was in 4th grade, and seeing this video immediately brought back memories of my friends and seeing this gun in a video or something and talking about just how damn cool it was. I’m 22 now.

[@alexanderclosson4729]

@@socksleeve something doesnt add up here 😑

[@socksleeve]

Alexander Closson how so

[@shytheguy3004]

Thus proving that shotguns are the best weapons ever made.

[@LyokoCode42]

Thank you for using the proper terms of "Less lethal" over "NON-Lethal".

[@jong2359]

Oh yes, that is definitely the most important detail of this video and possibly of our entire age of existence..........................................................................

[@johny__hazmat8133]

well you can kill a person with a fucking plastic spoon so almost everything is lethal if you try hard enough

[@LyokoCode42]

@@johny__hazmat8133 Saddly true, and kinda my point. One may try, but there is always a risk. Pretending like there isn't will get people killed faster than anything. Just whish more people out there were educated and understood that.

[@johny__hazmat8133]

LyokoCode42 ah i get ur point now,sorry for misinterpreting

[@wgairborne209]

here we go, knew this was gunna get tied in with this. this poor series doesn't need any of that my dude

[@overlord165]

I remember seeing this shotgun at the "Future Weapons" tv show on Discovery channel when I was a wee kid coming home from school. Weird seeing it now on Forgotten Weapons like it's an antic weapon...

[@fien111]

ONe day Ian will look at the Metal Storm and just fucking LAUGH

[@overlord165]

@@fien111 OH GOD

[@heatherwhite9630]

Taser x3.

[@NHGJordanAbbott]

Getting old mate

[@guywithoutaname1163]

Damn michael reeves kinda rly needs this

[@sleepy_boi7552]

No please That'll make everyone on otv cower in fear

[@reytunezbz]

He'd modify it to a weapon to surpass metal gear!

[@sleepy_boi7552]

@@reytunezbz nah he'll modify it until it becomes a WMD

[@j.dpost-mortem9115]

NO! NO! I don’t trust that man with a normal taser let alone with one that can shoot me from 90 feet!

[@fbiagent0696]

@@sleepy_boi7552 they already do.

[@galenw2339]

Most taser probe lead are 21 feet in length. However they are heavily inaccurate at anything greater that 10 feet.

[@epluribusunum5318]

I recall watching a video a while back, where two police demonstrated how inaccurate they are at increased distances. AT the twelve foot mark they tended to tumble and go to either side, only one would consistently connect with the target. Past fifteen feet, they would more often then not miss the target on either side as they split away from each other. And even when they did make contact, they were usually out of enough energy to puncture skin let alone a jacket. Not a reliable systems by any means. Unfortunate, as they have a better public reception then the much more effective bean bag shotshells when used.

[@noecarrier5035]

Needs an underslung Zip 22. 4/10 not tactical enough.

[@emgr7653]

*tacticool enough

[@DoitForTheLolz1]

just mount it on the side rail lol. full loadout on a single gun.

[@importedemperor4397]

And a chainsaw.

[@reuploadsofquantumofconsci2507]

Cobray terminator when the taser fails

[@blackace7782]

This post gave me Cancer

[@kfer9500]

When I was a Corrections Deputy, for my Taser certification I had to be shot with the Taser X2 (the one mounted on the shotgun). The best way I can explain the feeling is the worst Charlie horse you've ever had in your life except over like 90% of your body. However weirdly enough, the moment the cycle finishes, I felt absolutely amazing and energized, not like hopped up or anything.

[@GeorgeThoughts]

Are you Jason Statham in Crank

[@sargera1]

​@@GeorgeThoughtshe'd eat that for lunch They also " haze" marines and army with this for physical test Seen twice on yt on like a documentary short

[@Clay3613]

The only other "firearm" I've seen that has a picatinny rail on the pump is NERF guns.

[@tinncan]

Flashlight?

[@Giganfan2k1]

Really they need to put a zip gun on that slide picatinny. XD

[@adrianfirewalker4183]

You can buy aftermarket forearms for pumps that have rails

[@Swarm509]

@@Giganfan2k1 Make it even more less-lethal!

[@cageybee7221]

yeah that's the point

[@andikinov9421]

"...they were also at one point considering a 40mm grenade version..." - LESS LETHAL LESS LETHAL *FATUMP* AaAaaaAA*smack*AaAAAaaAAAAa...

[@iododendron3416]

Slightly less lethal.

[@jorgeaugusto6076]

They probably tried a 120mm version for non lethal MBTs

[@MrGrimsmith]

"Well, we can confirm that the charge did not kill the subject" "They have a *HOLE* through their chest!!" "Yes but the charge itself did no harm. It's an important distinction"

[@pointmansf]

Well SWAT and SRT teams already use 25mm and 40mm launchers for tear gas and less lethal sabot rounds like beanbags, rubber BB canister "Stinger" spreadshot, and a host of other ideas like the 25mm plastic Ferret rounds (Standard Issue for most 25mm launchers) so a 40mm actually makes sense, you could fit a much bigger battery to the Taser projectile that would last longer than 20 seconds and or increase the voltage delivered on impact. Also the much larger amount of propellant allows a 40mm LtL system a range of about 120 feet, which is fantastic for situations such as a mentally ill or suicidal person with a pistol. Look into the 25mm Ferret rounds that have been used for well over a decade and you'll see it's not at all a ridiculous concept.

[@44R0Ndin]

@@pointmansf For a mentally ill or suicidal person with a pistol, I have a better solution, that has already been used in the past, but with a modern adaptation that makes it work better. Cross a highly accurate sniper with ammunition akin to a door breaching round. A well trained sniper with an extremely accurate rifle means you can shoot the gun out of their hand, and the frangible round means that as soon as that round hits something substantial (like the gun, knife, or other weapon), it turns into powder losing most of it's lethality, reducing damage caused by shrapnel of the projectile. Doesn't do anything about any shrapnel the held weapon itself might produce, but I think there's not much to be done about that. Of course, if you do hit a person with it they'll probably still suffer damage pretty similar to a gunshot wound, but the point of the sniper is that you hit the gun not the person.

[@kpete2353]

idk how many people will get this but Meet the Rescue Ranger

[@Benjy52]

😂😂😂 All we need now is a sentry gun

[@figo3554]

Yes

[@gasflame961]

Yeah

[@theeyeballthatcameoutofthe5268]

@@Benjy52 already exist

[@Hypastpist]

Hyperion Taser Mossberg +shock damage +more accurate, the more you shoot -Low ammo capacity

[@ivanwrsong4792]

-Less then lethal ( have to finish them off yourself tiger )

[@purplesweaterboi4763]

It’s a Vladof (I think) gun, it has an underbarrel taser!

[@sovereigndonation4217]

- No random critical hits

[@sirlionson2207]

@@sovereigndonation4217 now it's unusable

[@nepi7847]

@@sirlionson2207 no, now it's balanced

[@MilitaryHistory2011]

One of these was used in the UK when Raoul Moat went on his shooting spree. Apparently it was horrifically ineffective, so much so it was actually scrutinised in an enquiry.

[@Jaystars]

I was going to post this. I believe it wasn't approved and only sent for testing purposes and not to be used on subjects

[@richardpurves]

Oh so much worse. The company that supplied it lost their license to sell and went out of business. The MD later killed himself. I posted the wiki article to the entire thing elsewhere.

[@darrenbrashaw8409]

But was it more effective than Gazza and a bucket of KFC?

[@richardpurves]

@@darrenbrashaw8409 Alcoholism is a terrible thing.

[@thecodex0994]

I was looking for this post before o posted it

[@sooline3854]

I remember reading about this in Popular Mechanics (I think it was) when they first started production. The article only focused on the round, though, not the gun itself. I kinda wondered why I hadn't heard any more about this since that article, and now I know why. Thanks for bringing this out of hiding!

[@LawOfficeofJosephLWoods]

I’m pretty curious about this one actually. I remember the ads and wondered what happened.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

I remember this from a documentary on Jules Verne when they talk about the Leyden Ball...

[@alliwantisfinancialstabili7414]

I remember seeing this as a kid and thinking it was the coolest thing ever and wondering why I didn't see more of it

[@Euan_Miller43]

Never got used due to being shit

[@xxxlonewolf49]

I have cop friends who have used this ammo, just a few months ago no less.

[@BIGCAM5000]

@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Yes Sir you are correct . ' One thousand birdshot grain under the puddle ' is one of Julien Verge's most unrecognized yardwork. I read the whole magazine in one sitting.

[@davidgillon2762]

1:15 "There were some initial concerns about things like heart attacks that don't appear to actually be substantiated by the research..." Which of course had nothing whatsoever to do with Taser (the company as it then was) aggressively suing US coroners who recorded cause of death as 'taser'. If memory serves, the company went through a period of being very litigious over anyone suggesting it might actually be killing people, before apparently finally accepting that there were risks, because that way it was less at risk of being sued in wrongful death cases. www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-taser-legal/ says it accepted reality "Late in 2009, as evidence of cardiac risks mounted, Taser made a crucial change: It warned police to avoid firing its stun gun’s electrified darts at a person’s chest. " ... "Taser’s increasingly restrictive warnings were part of “new risk management strategies” it launched in 2009 “to better protect both the company and its customers from litigation,”"

[@alexehhhh]

The hell did they want 😂 head shots only? 😂😂 f

[@ebolachanislove6072]

@@alexehhhh the fact that they only work if the prongs are spread far enough apart basically means you have to aim center of mass to have any hope of these working too. so they basically said "do not use our product effectively"

[@Unpredictable21-]

Its shock therapy auto ejection device 😂

[@Preinstallable]

At least it just gives you cardiac arrest and not lead in the head disease.

[@drmilkweed]

"not because it hurts very badly" Oh I assure you, it hurts VERY badly

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

The fact that they used Chojas as an inspiration is neat.

[@MarbleDuck]

Cholla :)

[@padenlisk2447]

@@MarbleDuck is it Spanish for something

[@WingKLok]

AXON Enterprises, Inc., formerly TASER International, Inc. is located in Scottsdale, Arizona, I surmise some employees (engineers?) must have nasty experiences with cholla cactus....

[@markfergerson2145]

@@padenlisk2447 Yeah, it's Spanish for "AAAAHHH!!! WTFBBQZOMG??? Get it off of me!!!" No, seriously- it's Spanish for skull apparently because the little pieces that break off and stab you (Ian called them "buds") kinda vaguely resemble skulls. Look at 4:05 to see two eyes and a round mouth where the buds have already broken off after stabbing someone or something. They are indeed, as Gun Jesus proclaimed unto us, incredibly malevolent, evil things. Please don't ask me how I know.

[@markfergerson2145]

@@WingKLok If you get within twenty feet of one, you WILL have a nasty experience. They're also known as "jumping cactus". The buds don't really jump off at you but they can break off and lay nearby without standing out, and if you don't notice it it WILL hook you.

[@sanguinius6815]

I swear I've seen this thing on Mythbusters.

[@spazmonkey2131]

It was on future weapons

[@Retr0Whiskey]

I remember seeing it on 'Future Weapons' years ago.

[@mrpirate6187]

Didn't future weapons feature some sort of Benelli M3 Taser thing?

[@SwheatCents]

Now its on Forgotten Weapons....

[@Mirokuofnite]

Nearly everything on Future Weapons is Forgotten Weapons.

[@themetalstickman]

holy crap I remember seeing a "fuuutuure" kind of presentation as a kid at my local PD regarding the XREP platform. I always wondered if those were ever used. Makes sense that they were abandoned.

[@davidgreen40]

Will we see Karl at the range demonstrating the effectiveness of this TASER on Ian?

[@TheWolfsnack]

..that would be cool....they could demonstrate that you need specific ranges for the thing to work...not point blank....

[@jdizzy01]

Only after a mud test

[@DeviantOllam]

@@jdizzy01 not Ian, but me. you see that over on InRange today =)

[@commanderfoxtrot]

Why do so many people put taser in lower-case? It’s an acronym. Thomas A. Swift Electric Rifle, to be exact.

[@herrikudo]

@@commanderfoxtrot because we arent pedantic twats?

[@geesecouchtaming7223]

They made the Rescue Ranger into a real thing

[@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879]

I think it's the other way around.

[@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879]

@@geesecouchtaming7223 ...Oh. Nevermind, then.

[@TN_Kuhorizki]

Ikr.

[@commanderfoxtrot]

I don’t remember there being a pump-action shotgun in Titanfall 2.

[@nepi7847]

@@commanderfoxtrot team fortress 2 smh my head

[@TheRealJoey44]

Ian, it’s such a pleasure watching your videos. You’re really eloquent & intelligent but you do it in such a thoughtful way that even a gun novice can comprehend & appreciate. Thank you for your contribution to understanding firearms & their significance to the history of our country & our civilization. Well done, bro. 🙂🙂

[@sneed915]

"We did guys we made a less lethal shotgun!" "Cool how does it work?!" "You stab em multiple times!" ......"brilliant"

[@StarHorder]

TWENTY EIGHT STAB WOUNDS!

[@memezboi8109]

I'd still rather be hit by this than a bullet tho.

[@brazgazz]

you want this or buckshot all over your torso?

[@mariovidmar7]

What they need to do about it is to modify it to fire multiple n Less lethal /lethal rounds.

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

Barbed spinning electrocution bolas... it's not lethal, it just makes you wish it was! This thing looks like it was designed by a (not fully) reformed supervillain. Was it Gru? Was this made by Gru?

[@shoofly529]

T.A.S.E.R stands for Thomas A Swift Electric Rifle.

[@gabrielf2432]

Good ol' Tom Swift stories. I'm a third generation fan!

[@donariadtn]

Hoo lordie.I grrw up reading the TSJr novels with my dad. That's an unexpected reminder. We really need more Tom Swift in the world.

[@davidgasiorek4134]

Actually, no. It's just "Tom Swift Electric Rifle", the A was added for pronouncability.

[@JCDenton3]

I learned that from RedLetterMedia

[@thomasa5619]

I get my own swift electric rifle?

[@foofl3457]

“You call this police brutality? WE CALL THIS A DIFFICULTY TWEAK!”

[@AustinScottHoffman]

I'm glad someone else thought of this

[@Mr.SM2939OLD]

_WULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULUL_

[@holmesholmes.8784]

YESS HAHAHAHAHA

[@ObsidiaBlack1]

Let's amp this shit up! *BZZZZZT INTENSIFIES*

[@LOWTlERWULF]

Police brutality is the safe word

[@MurcuryEntertainment]

What I was imagining was a shotgun spray of electrified darts connected by wires to the gun.

[@verminmartyr9494]

I think that would just kill someone

[@jbt-qu6lm]

those are called flechettes they are quite lethal in fact

[@dELTA13579111315]

@@jbt-qu6lm in the case of Antifa, let em rip

[@metalbob3335]

Tazer-berg 500 , reach out and taze someone, Bros.

[@akeokanok]

This is an underrated comment

[@JohnWick-yw6mf]

I love the way you talk brother, so well structured and clear. Love it.

[@Mrgunsngear]

interesting

[@eaglefly9183]

I see your comments on all the videos i watch lol

[@aking8477]

@@eaglefly9183 I was about to say the same thing! Lol pretty cool to know that mrgunsngear is watching a lot of the same content that I enjoy watching.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

Interesting indeed. Every school in America should have these; teacher misses and hits a kid...well, he/she will live. Bad guy gets a 30 second taser ride...plenty of time to get away or take him out!

[@stone9302]

I remember hearing about those shells when I was younger. Now there a forgotten weapon, lol.

[@orenthalsimpson]

www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/78588/55610/mossberg-500-12-gauge-taser-x12-less-lethal-platform-police-trade-in

[@nomadjensen8276]

Probably forgotten for good reason. Thing looks an sounds heinous..

[@calebnation7797]

I remember seeing those shells on the tv show “future weapons” when I was a kid...

[@Arcahnslight]

@@calebnation7797 RIP to the host Richard John "Mack" Machowicz. I loved that show growing up.

[@temlan]

"LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!"

[@noecarrier5035]

Taser deployments by police have a fairly mixed track record, as far as I can determine. Even ignoring those events where the prongs don't impact correctly or don't have the right separation, isn't used correctly or fails to make contact, some people seem able to ignore or disregard the effects of the taser. It will clearly be functional, the taser is shown to be working though multiple duty cycles, the target expresses pain, but there is no irresistible muscular disruption. They continue to struggle. I'm not sure why this happens and it may be entirely because of misuse/etc, but it is not quite irresistible. Some sources (like the company themselves) have suggested this is because of drug intoxication but I'm not sure their "excited delirium" is even a real thing. Taser were a very shady company. I don't trust them. See also what happened to Raoul Moat.

[@StarHorder]

I theorize that somepeoples nerves habe a different frequency

[@infernaldaedra]

Tbh from my own experience it doesn't seem like the impulses are strong enough to affect muscle control completely and for more than a second or two.

[@Hansengineering]

As soon as the zapping stops, the pain and incapacitation goes away.

[@DazsdWTP]

The raoul moat thing was a case of the wrong thing being used, raoul got hit his muscles contracted (since the tazer worked), his finger was on a trigger pointed at himself and well its obvious where that leads, thats not tazers fault, thats the fault of whoever decided to pick a tazer to deal with someone holding a trigger.

[@Seelenschmiede]

I find it funny how in your sermon "police not able to hit at all" doesn't even get mentioned...

[@LBGUKRWP]

If I remember correctly one was used on a guy called Raiul Moat who was an active shooter in Northumbria here in the Uk in something like 2009/10

[@HGZinc]

You're correct. Also, Paul Gascoine showed up as backup in his dressing gown with a bucket of KFC and a fishing rod. EDIT: no really, this is a thing that actually happened. It was a very strange event.

[@LBGUKRWP]

HGZinc well knowing Gaza he was probably drunk and couldn’t find his way home lol

[@mikeyp0131]

Yeah and didn’t it cause him to pull the trigger of the shotgun that he held to his head? Crazy like

[@RavenzFlight]

Nice Borderlands Shotgun. An electrical elemental shotgun with an elemental pistol strapped to it. Good Drop... but I'll have to compare the stats before I keep it.

[@hurricane567]

"Bring me my Westinghouse Cannon!"-unnamed United Fruit Company security guard, 1936

[@williestyle35]

and this taser is nearly the proper color for the product handled by United Fruit Company. (;

[@bugzyhardrada3168]

The Banana Shotgun for the fruity guards.....

[@jeremyh6686]

I've been following forgotten weapons for years and recently "pulled the trigger" on patreon I look forward to seeing more from the channel and at my chance to get involved on things like the FAQs love your work

[@willblack7353]

ATF: Nice dog you got... Me: This is technically not a shotgun, you have no jurisdiction over this matter

[@willblack7353]

@Kjs not yet

[@marklaube1590]

LIGHTING BOLT, LIGHTING BOLT! - the Taser, Payday 2

[@yankee1985524]

I remember seeing these on The show Future Weapons...

[@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4]

Oof

[@jillvalentinefan77]

RIP Richard Mackowicz Hooyah frogman.

[@kyl3644]

Ironic

[@thedude8046]

Me too

[@yevenlu3243]

Me too. And Triggers: Weapons That Changed The World...

[@melan5696]

"damn that guy who threw the baseball is out of range of my taser, guess I have to light him up" - American cops.

[@bencase5120]

Story time. My father and I work at a prison togather. This morning when we got home 7am central. He told me that in the bath room on one of the units they had a poster of this. This video popped into my feed at that exact time and I showed him. He thought I had this saved to my phone for that exact poster. But anyways love the channel and all your videos keep up the great work!

[@chrishahn3834]

Ian: The yellow is a safety feature Me: BANANA GUN BANANA GUN

[@richardlont4480]

BANANA BANANA BANANA

[@bodyno3158]

Pikachu Gun

[@DrDestructo]

Kinda funny that there actually was a ready-made gun for the Taser enemies in Payday 2. Instead, they've got AR-15s with electric yellow front handguards and underbarrel stun guns.

[@redram5150]

At a glance, it reminds me of a Bowie Knife with a scope

[@wizzotizzo]

I think you meant a Bowie Knife with a bipod.

[@fernpaz9570]

Love when you guys get together with Deviant, favorite combo

[@LynchedGamers]

Incredible explanation of a taser in the first minute.

[@martingardener90]

It would have been cheaper to develop a shotgun that fires choya buds!

[@kentallard8852]

Couldn't you just put em in a shotgun shell, the way people put rock salt?

[@mr.bobcyndaquil4214]

That'd probably be a crime against humanity

[@crominion6045]

It would have to be made by Taurus and be called the Raging Cholla. 😄

[@mfree80286]

It's supposed to be less lethal....

[@padenlisk2447]

Imagine if the federal prisons had hundred meter thick Choya all the way around them

[@philismenko]

Ian: "its "nothing"" Me: so its not nerf

[@9HighFlyer9]

Obviously

[@Serenityindailylife]

Trained on the system as an MP that was stationed near the pentagon. Glad we only shot targets with that one instead of riding the lightning like the handheld. 1% die, 20% aren't even effected by it. I was one of the ones who could still walk forward after being hit by it, there were 2 in our class of 35. The instructor made the mistake of saying try to take it from me...i was hit after 2 steps, I kept coming and took it from him the first time, they left the barbs in me, s saying it must not have stuck. He had me back up and try again while he juiced me. That time I took it and ejected the cartridge and went after him with it. The damn thing hurt pretty bad but didn't incapacitate me. Other people went down like a sack of potatoes. They even did a chain of 4 people and all 4 felt it. Great video, cool to see it again.

[@JimFortune]

Kudos to the designer who decided to make it incapable of firing normal shotgun rounds.

[@bruensal7182]

If anyone wants to know, this is how a taser works: It fires two little arrows with cables attached to it. İf both arrows hit the human and pierce his skin, the electronic flow starts, the targets muscles contract and the target falls on the ground. Problems: 1- The range is between 1-8.5meters, so if somebody is attacking you, you have 2-5seconds to fire. 2- There is a 15-20% chance that the Taser wont fire 3- Even if the Taser fires, both arrows need to hit, with at least 30-40cm between the arrows 4- Even if you hit the target, the clothing can be a problem (motorcyclist jackets, leather jacket etc) 5- some people are not affected by tasers

[@alexanderrowley9870]

I remember hearing about this in the papers, because it was used during the Raoul Moat incident in 2010.

[@elidennison9902]

I see why it would be difficult to sell a police department on this concept when beanbag rounds are a thing. Its a long gun, so its not going to be on their duty belt like the standard taser will. That means they need to either come out of the car with it drawn, go back to the car for it.... or show up at a riot with it ready... Yeah, I understand why this is forgotten. Why would a police department do this when they could put beanbag rounds in a shotgun or practice safe rioting and use rubbers.

[@kentallard8852]

it would be beside the driver in the patrol car

[@girthquake1413]

And for that matter, how do you keep the rounds charged? Are they primary cells like aluminum-air, where they dump a shitload of power all at once and get used up? Do they have a shotgun cell charging dock?

[@rasterbate87]

Yeah, it seems like the company that builds the electric guns was just trying to find another electric gun to build. It doesn’t totally feel like a product the market is crying out for.

[@williestyle35]

Taser rounds have *the potential* to be have more usefulness than bean bags. A little more accurate and a little more effective in stopping a person, but only if it were developed more than this.

[@girthquake1413]

@@williestyle35 true. with current (heh) battery technology it's possible, though I doubt they'd use lithium. Probably something like Aluminum-air cells.

[@dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676]

“That’s too expensive! I’d rather just shoot the guy!” Very obviously a joke

[@picolopete9953]

I will admit I giggled but I don't doubt that price plays a factor in why we don't see more stuff like this.

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

You could carry a spare regular breach face. Covert lethality!

[@PhillipAmthor]

Every american ever

[@sjoormen1]

Lives don't matter. Enough.

[@CrispyGFX]

"Why don't the police use more less than lethal options" "Defund the police" Pick one.

[@francopetre6171]

I can imagine when the shell swings over and sticks in your eye 👀

[@Alpha.Phenix]

''It's the sort of thing that you ccan't like will your way out of...'' Not if my friendship power has anything to say about it!

[@StarHorder]

I aced the skill that knocks the taser back

[@titaniummechanism3214]

Love can overcome anything!

[@DigitalRX2r]

Not if my PCP rage has anything to say about it.

[@brandonha]

Im just here for Ian to say “handheld unit.”

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

I remember when I was a kid seeing this on TV. I never realized the project failed. I did remember that the battery pack came off and dangled by wires, but I didnt know about those spikes or the bare wire, so I never understood what the purpose was for it.

[@sargera1]

It ran till 2012 when they cut off the xrep sales

[@the_real_Kurt_Yarish]

I remember reading about this in _Popular Science_ in the 6th grade, thought it was a genius idea but that it would never reach the market because of logistical issues. Was surprised and delighted to be proven wrong a few years ago when I saw pictures this very system in use by SWAT teams. Had no idea that they were actually produced not too long after I read about them. Always wondered how much those barbed slugs would hurt if it struck your head/face, though...

[@miekadriaens]

Hey Ian, I know you usually do historical firearms but sometimes also special modern ones like this one. Are you going to talk about the new delayed blowback system found in the Stribog SP9A3 (and maybe compare it to your HK SP5). Anyway love the content!

[@acetylsalicylicacid]

When you try to make the Rescue Ranger IRL:

[@Sucho89]

pretty much

[@emperorfaiz]

When I look at the thumbnail, I thought Ian reviewing a toy shotgun because of the yellow color.

[@lunchpin403]

He's done all the real guns, none left to do a video on

[@ScottKenny1978]

Police departments use toy colors on their less lethal shotguns so that there's no confusion. They use orange locally. Blue is for training guns.