DeserTech 7.62mm MDR Teardown

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The DeserTech MDR ("Micro Dynamic Rifle") has been in the works for several years now, after being initially announced at SHOT Show in 2014, if I recall correctly. While it was probably prematurely unveiled, the rifle as it stands today looks to be remarkably well designed. It is one thing to design a concept that sounds attractive (fully ambidextrous bullpup rifle convertible between 7.62x51mm and 5.56x45mm), but it is a whole other thing to actually develop a mechanical design that actually works. And it is yet more notable to make that system elegantly simple and to actually transition from handmade prototypes to successful production line manufacture. DesertTech appears to have cleared all those hurdles...
At the heart of the rifle is a rotating bolt locking system and a short stroke gas system. These are both very well understood systems - DesertTech has chosen to use proven ideas here instead of getting "innovative". The most interesting mechanical element is undoubtedly the ejection system, which can be swapped to eject from either side of the rifle but can actually be used from either shoulder regardless because it ejects cases directly forward. The system uses a pair of arms that push an empty case (or live round) laterally off the side of the bolt face and into a holding clip. A lug on the side of the bolt engages those arms on its rearward stroke, and a matching lug on the opposite side pushes the case forward and out of the rifle on the bolt's forward stroke. While this system sounds complex, the parts appear to my eye to have gone through a lot of testing and revision, as they look pretty simple and sturdy - a refined implementation of an unorthodox idea.
The controls are all ambidextrous, with non-reciprocating bolt handles, safety selector, and magazine release on both sides. A secondary magazine release is located on the front of the magazine well to allow a positive magazine removal, and this catch is stiff enough to not have problems with accidental release like some other bullpup designs. The weakest point of the rifle as I see it is the trigger, with is creepy and heavier than I would have expected. The trigger group is completely modular, however, and I would expect to see aftermarket replacement triggers appear on the secondary market before too long.
The barrel can be removed easily with a hex wrench, and DeserTech is producing a 5.56mm conversion kit. This will involve replacing the bolt, barrel, and ejection panel and installing a magazine well insert for the smaller magazine (the 5.56mm version will use AR pattern standard mags). The upper and lower receiver assemblies are completely interchangeable between calibers. For those wishing to use a suppressor, the gas system is adjustable, with 3 positions including one for suppressed use.
The rifle ships with a micro red dot optic mounted in lieu of iron sights. It is mounted to a single unit section of Picatinny rail integral to the gas block, meaning that it will retain zero when the barrel is removed. For those preferring other sights, the top of the receiver has a length of rail for attaching whatever you like. The handguard also has a top rail, but I would not consider it to be solidly fixed enough to retain zero on an optic. The handguard also has side and bottom MLok slots for bipods and other accessories. The handguard is not connected to the barrel, so bipods on it are effectively free floated.

[@koshersalt3233]

MDR: Micro Dynamic Rifle Brain: Mesignated Darksman Rifle

[@suursuits7637]

Ya beat me to it

[@squillen]

legendary comment

[@maksim33]

This made me laugh more than it should have hahahahaha

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

Marksman's Designated Rifle

[@Rollerbear712]

Darksman lol

[@mcqueenfanman]

Not only are you shooting bullets at the enemy, you're shooting empty shells at them too.

[@genetichell]

To quote Cave Johnson: "Plus, we're shooting the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet, per bullet."

[@wilemelliott]

Germans have been doing that for years...just look at the ejection pattern of the G3/HK91!

[@DerplingKing]

That's nothing. The US nearly adopted a rifle that did that in the 20's with the Thompson Rifle. Admittedly, you had to have 2 enemies at 90 degrees to each other, but that's just details!

[@pollauritsabrahamsenjq1618]

@@DerplingKing tactical maneuvering. It takes practice, but not impossible :-)

[@jastermereel4946]

should be a borderlands gun

[@ramdom_assortment]

As yes, the MDR. The Many Dollars Required rifle.

[@GoochMuncher6969]

Lmao

[@spilledfries]

million dollar rifle

[@Jebotito]

These are great lmao 🤣

[@dex6147]

Cheap compared to their bolt guns.

[@culturalliberator9425]

2000 per I'm pretty sure not the worst.

[@masongstevens]

I worked with Desert Tech for my engineering senior project (similar to an internship) designing assembly jigs and instructional 3D assembly animation videos for the MDR. The amount of engineering and R&D that went into that rifle was mind blowing. Its cool to see something I had a part in make an appearance on Forgotten Weapons.

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

That's so cool.

[@juicecx5160]

thank you for assisting in designing one of my favorite weapons in tarkov.

[@keithstephens1022]

Thank you for assisting in designing one of my favourite weapons in Insurgency Sandstorm

[@letssuperfuntime]

Please nerf mdr ergo

[@Reticuli]

Thank you for assisting in designing the inspiration for one of my favorite weapons in Arma 3 + ACE... though not including the magical 100 round 7.62 NATO mags that are less than half the weight they should be that you had nothing to do with.

[@piritskenyer]

>Basic trained on AK >"The rifle comes with a tool for disassembly" >Brain: *error*

[@gabenplznerf1093]

I started with airsoft guns so everything short of an AN94 it’s easier. Weird how the “toys” are so much more complex.

[@24YOA]

@@gabenplznerf1093 Probably the most complex part of a firearm is in the ammo it fires. That's why bullets aren't dirt cheap compared to BBs. For airsoft the most complex part is also the propulsion for the projectile. It's just held inside the gearbox rather than inside a brass tube.

[@bosknight7837]

Holden McKroin most guns are engineered to be as simple as possible. Aside from the obvious need for being sturdy for military use,a firearm also has to survive pretty huge amount of force for a long time compared to something like a BB gun

[@alephkasai9384]

That and the magazine. The military probably spends most of their budget on magazines and ammo. Magazines are also the fulcrum of any modern day gun. If the magazine sucks the whole thing sucks

[@classifiedad1]

@@24YOA I suppose the cost is linked to the thing that makes the projectile fly. Modern cartridges contain the propellant, where airsoft BBs are powered by the gun.

[@MrMalicious5]

This certainly was a forgotten weapon after they announced it 4 years ago.

[@praetorxian]

Micro Dynamic Marketing (MDM)

[@Lonewolf6565]

Its not forgotten its a boutique gun that's way to expensive even compared to a tavor. Its like the Q fix bolt action. Its expensive for the sake of expensive. Purely a status thing for people with way to much expendable money.

[@DzheiSilis]

Like that MHG Sturmgewehr

[@Lonewolf6565]

@@DzheiSilis Except the Hill and Mac Sturmgewehr clones cost less than the MDR.

[@LUR1FAX]

@@praetorxian Mom's Demand Money (.org)

[@G36Ghost]

*Slaps top of MDR receiver* "This bad boy can fit THIS many pins in it."

[@johannesdolch]

I foresee a cheap television military murder mystery episode made with this and somehow the killer is gonna get rid of all the casings but the one held in the port and that's gonna be his downfall.

[@SandyAndy90245]

Hollywood is too lazy to write that into a script.

[@someweirdguyew9757]

@@SandyAndy90245 CSI in its heyday would have happily included it. They regularly built episodes around weird shit from the headlines, or some cool gadget a producer discovered.

[@kylebricky6419]

sees 7.62 in the title sees tan color *CONFUSED AND TERRIFIED TARKOV SCREAMING*

[@hp_3266]

The one in tarkov chambered in 7.62 is black, the one in tan is chambered in 5.56

[@Bvander]

@@hp_3266 thank you for that context lol

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

@@hp_3266 Thank you, dude. I had no context.

[@china_nr_1_cs712]

And in tarkov its full auto lmao

[@John.VanSwearingen]

The old InRange/Forgotten Weapons Double Feature Razzle Dazzle

[@samholdsworth3957]

DING DONG!

[@alexanderm3504]

Youuuuu son of a bitchhhh

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

I shall not be satisfied that this weapon is worthy until it is chambered in .45 ACP, can make 1 pot of coffee per minute, and has defeated an ACR, SCAR, M107, and a Mosin in the Pugil Stick Pit without scuffing the logo.

[@justinofboulder]

YES!!

[@Pitchlock8251]

Given the InRange video, This seems more like foreshadowing

[@sbeckett91]

Desertech designers be like "What if Tavor but more money and more pins?"

[@makjak111]

Spot on lol

[@ANonymous-bh1un]

According to their Shot Show video on the Desert Tech MDR (and the .308 Tavor), both Ian and Karl found the MDR to be wildly superior to the Tavor - to the point where they tried to arrange rifles so they could do this takedown and shooting review.

[@elite6321]

And was also fathered by Magpul and MOE

[@forconfight2227]

@Bhum Brahmavira Not sure that is a good thing either.

[@xt6wagon]

vastly less reliable too. Biggest one for me is they reduced the size of the extractor over what *everyone* uses, thus making it rip the rims off cases if *anything * is slightly off. Ejection system needs hand tuning to not suck from several reports, as sharp edges catch the case jamming it up. Gas system was (is?) a mess, using overgassing to try and force stuff to work through high energy.

[@thatdude9096]

We need a weapon highly reliable in desert applications where fine grains of sand easily get in the weapon. Desert Tech: *Creates one of the most complicated ejection systems ever*

[@周生生-f1f]

I really like the whole idea of having the mag release accessible by your index finger, but man that reliability looks like a hot mess

[@georgesheffield1580]

Same for wet, Muddy, jungle environment.

[@SunRunn3r]

Isnt covering the ejection port making it way harder for the elements to affect the rifle?

[@BSOE3058]

Let's just call it "Bullpup SCAR"

[@Jasper-Holland]

Tar-21's bastard brother

[@misery13666]

Tavor " 'murica " edition

[@Seb-Storm]

I was thinking more of a tacr-h (tavor scar) lol

[@nicolaiby1846]

Except it doesn't work unlike the SCAR. SCAR is quite a capable rifle, mild recoiling for such a light .308 and very reliable. The MDR .308 recoils harshly, is very unreliable and almost as expensive as the SCAR H.

[@PureCountryof91]

Funny story. There were 2 or 3 companies working on lowers to convert scars to bull pups since the action is in the upper reciever like an ar180. Hadnt heard if any making it into production however.

[@matthewkriebel7342]

Design for manufacture is an underrated thing in all industries.

[@tryharderpls]

Killed a guy on customs with one of these today

[@drduck3727]

Found this video becasue I wanted 2 know how it worked after seeing the bolt so far up from the mag in game. lol

[@drduck3727]

@@ld1728 well duh they had better ammo and higher firerate

[@von...]

killed a guy on customs using a mosin and got one of these off of him today ;)

[@holzteppichverleger]

Nice copy comment from that val video

[@haekmain3910]

He even has the pk-06 on it

[@Maggydags]

Things you cannot field strip: This rifle.

[@neilhightower2270]

Standard troops really dont need to field strip a rifle

[@flyboy89ify]

Note, you don't have to remove the barrel or hang guard first and the pins that do separate the lower and upper do not require the tool, just something to punch them forward.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

@@neilhightower2270 you know that’s precisely who is supposed to field strip any piece of equipment are the regular front line troops, right? Hence the term field strip- to tear down in the field.

[@philippk819]

@@flyboy89ify Also really wonder why one would think you actually have to remove the handguard and barrel to be able to separate upper and lower ;-))

[@ShootAUT]

I really liked it until you began to take it apart - this screw, and that screw, and here a pin, then there a pin. It has got some nice design ideas, mostly for left-handed shooters. But especially regarding taking it apart for cleaning, changing barrels, maintenance etc., the AUG has already been doing a much better job for over 40 years.

[@OhSome1HasThisName]

You feel like they spent all the time on the clever bits and kinda rushed the basics, which is a shame because the clever bits are really quite cool

[@Skyfox94]

That's the thing with the AUG - it's easily serviceable and durable as hell simply because the mechanism is so simple. In both terms it beats the AR15 with ease. In my opinion there's only one thing about the AUG that sucks - and that's the trigger. Apart from that a modern AUG is just fantastic in every way.

[@ironwolfF1]

@@Skyfox94 Trigger pull issues have been the bane of many a bull pup design, and the chief reason (IMO) why bull pups haven't taken off as a main-stream battle rifle.

[@PorchPotatoMike]

Everywhere a pin pin.

[@ironwolfF1]

While there are more than the usual 'fiddly bits' than what would be desirable in a rifle, the fact that it's a short-stroke gas system instead of direct impingement translates into simpler cleaning to maintain it. This rifle has two levels of maintenance: battle cleaning, and a full take-down cleaning; having shot an M16 for many years, this weapon is not as bad in terms of "field cleaning", and *far more* forgiving if it's only casually cleaned. Something you can NEVER do with an M16... you clean it religiously, or it WILL fail you at the worse possible moment. Been there, done that, and still have the OD t-shirts to prove it.

[@dp8053]

Seems to me the ejection process is the weak point of the design, just seems like too much to go wrong.

[@Thecarbonviper]

As a former owner of the "good" version, the MDRX, you are very correct.

[@huntermitchell761]

That blowout plug system is probably the most innovative safety system in a rifle I've seen to date. Very cool!

[@shreks_loins3963]

That ejection system is slick, reminds me a lot of old 1900's era machine guns because of the mechanism.

[@cumcumcum148]

The first that came to my mind is Maxim machine gun. Not the same, but shells didn't just fly everywhere

[@BodilyFunction]

As a left handed shooter, we are already used to having to pay an extra premium for left handed guns so spending a little more on a gun as cool as this that is completely ambidextrous is hardly even an issue.

[@Ryne4S]

it's going to benefit for mass productions I think, and it's a cool feature

[@letsgocamping88]

I feel like Ian appreciates the engineering as much as the firing / history.

[@kyleschafer6275]

He stated in an interview he does some engineering and appreciates the engineering behind a fire arm ( not exactly what he said but along those lines), and basically the main reason he does forgotten weapons is to try and save the engineering designs and known knowledge about a fire arm.

[@jaredneaves7007]

Ian is literally an engineer lmao

[@davelowesky8054]

@@kyleschafer6275 You can really tell the difference between the guys that actually use weapons and the guys who read books and make KZbin videos about guns.

[@TransistorBased]

"only needs two tools to disassmble" *P90 has entered the chat*

[@admiralbutterscotch5147]

I see pinhead got into firearm design after the hell raiser movies.

[@Zues120]

"Enough with goofy ejection hijinks" NO KEEP GOING

[@fulsame1]

Man, the Master Chief collection PC port is looking really good.

[@Kar98killme]

Timhouse gun jesus for halo infinite

[@ferntheyoutuber9960]

Desert Tech MDR. Because you can't fight the covenant with an AR.

[@bassmith448bassist5]

Sez who??????!!!!!!!

[@bassmith448bassist5]

And after the Master Chief lost his sidearm I tossed him my trusty AR15 and he greassed at least 15 or16 more of the Covanent fighters!!!!!

[@thunderofgr]

@@bassmith448bassist5 That’s when you toss him the MP17 (aka the SMG from Halo 3: ODST)

[@joshuahadams]

I mean, plonk a little display and flashlight on there and it’s pretty close to a UNSC assault rifle.

[@agentmonde1]

Love your videos but I'm waiting for the 20mm machine gun from South Africa 😋😋😋😋

[@chadianguardsman3358]

@@Mr_Makina. SAME

[@TerribleToaster]

@@Mr_Makina just wait till Christmas

[@heinzpeter644]

@@TerribleToaster im so hyped for that

[@Tricerius]

20mm? Smfh. We want the space magic!

[@TheWolfsnack]

..and the 12 ga Spider vehicle defense gun from Rhodesia

[@Punisher9419]

The ejection port is really neat although I have no idea how reliable that is. I love the safety venting hole, that's a really nice addition.

[@victordiez2085]

Time will tell

[@opforind]

Yeah I found the ejection system very novel but couldn’t help but wonder if there was a simpler way to achieve it.

[@Punisher9419]

@@opforind After watching the InRange video my suspicions where met, the ejection system isn't reliable and neither are the other mechanics. It's a real shame. Perhaps best to stick to what has been done in the past because you really can't beat or not yet anyway a good AK or a good AR.

[@opforind]

Kuddlesworth NA yep just watched it as well. At least it’s modular design leaves the door open for an improved ejection system .

[@Punisher9419]

@@opforind Perhaps you can't polish a turd?

[@whatfor5]

Technically it looks absolutely brilliant, with the possible exception of relying on way too many fasteners. Practically speaking though...... I guess I've got three major problems with it. The first may be solved with time, and that is reliability. How well it'll function over time and in adverse conditions is just a big unknown. The second is support. Anyone remember the SIG 556xi for example? Or how about the "magpul" ACR? Lots of promises were made about manufacture, support, and conversions and largely it just didn't materialize. I have similar concerns for this platform, especially since if Desert Tech goes under there is a whole lot of nothing in the way of support for the rifle. And third is price. The base rifle is a bit dear at 2.5K while a Tavor is 1.5K, but okay fine it is more advanced and all that. However the conversion kits are 750-1000$ each. You could buy some really nice rifles in each and every caliber for the price of a single MDR to cover the range. And this is where my concerns all converge. At this price few people will want to be the first to try, which will lead to low sales, maintained high prices due to low volume, low volume means fewer conversions and less support, and all of this makes it more likely Desert Tech won't be around in 10 years and the MDR will really belong on Forgotten Weapons as a clever quirk of weapon design which just didn't catch on. *shrug*

[@deejay1534]

Whatfor5 IMHO Desert Tech is akin to a much higher end Kel-Tec. They release some pretty sweet looking and high quality designs but don’t have a big enough pedigree to be considered a true “military” firearms company. Albeit, their guns are designed with combat in mind, like the SRS. Give this rifle a few years and we’ll see if it lives up to the hype (and price) or just becomes another ACR/XCR/F2000. P.S., huge fan of yours, I still remember the first time watching your RHOP tutorial for my Ares UMP-45.

[@alexanderstrickland9036]

Seems like the proper market strategy would be to come in to the game with a ‘budget’ rifle at around $1000 and then build off of that. Put out a product that represents proof of concept and is cheaper to produce while maintaining reliability. Then have higher higher/priced options(all the fancy shit like chromed, fluted, ported barrels, stainless internals). Like buying a $1000 AR as opposed to a $2000 AR. Because as it stands I’d rather buy a ptr if I wanted a 308. The ONLY thing this rifle has going for it, from my perspective, is that it’s bullpup, which is arguably a bad thing.

[@stupidburp]

I think it would be great if IWI bought DeserTech. That would assure long term support and they could position it as a subsidiary with various good quality niche designs.

[@AdeptN00B]

A seal did test it in combat for about 6 months. I think they decided they didnt need a 308 bulpup.

[@lemoncide]

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY

[@luismoreira792]

Interesting weapon, I would like to have one, but I can not help imagining when seeing more mechanical elements, more pieces more things to give problem or break.

[@ArtyTheta]

Better materials, manufacturing techniques and better quality control allow for more complex weapons

[@killerpeaches7]

@@ArtyTheta In theory. Watching their shooting video it seems to be a great advertisement for the KISS principal. This thing is a temperamental, jam prone POS currently. With a terribly designed ejection port, gas controls that you have to dissemble the gun to use, and obnoxious recoil. So maybe they succeed in the "better materials" side... but manufacturing techniques and QA? Nope. Sorry, but for an Infantry Combat Weapon, complex is bad. Period.

[@ArtyTheta]

@@killerpeaches7 By that principle we should be using pumps/bolt actions cause they are way simpler

[@ArtyTheta]

@@ravissary79 I am not advocating for unnecessary complication. Something like the AN94 is just bonkers I am advocating for technological advancements, that, most of the time, imply more complicated designs. Complicated designs do not exclude intuitive use

[@harrisonavera8835]

I own one. It is such a cool idea but I wouldn't advise buying one. I've had problems with it. It is pretty picky with ammo

[@misery13666]

If this can get enough financial backing for volume production (keltec never figured this one out), and for advertising, It should sell well honestly. I know there are issues. price fasteners etc. But it's american made, bullpup, true ambi. It cumulatively tics a number of very big boxes that nobody else does. If the price got down to tavor money I'd likely buy it. Vegas is only a couple hours from their headquarters in salt lake, so any warranty is easy for me. I'm lefty, so this is one of the few bulpups I can really run without compensating for the gun's setup. and I prefer to put my money back into the american economy, not overseas. It creates american jobs, allows them to create more guns that create more jobs moving forward. I honestly don't care about the amount of hardware as it means I can simply unbolt and replace worn parts, and bolt in aftermarket parts if I so choose plus I'd rather replace a 40-50 dollar rail than an upper receiver.

[@hamoodhabibi1579]

EFT Fans: *Heavy Breathing*

[@mandreadfg]

*heavy breathing increases*

[@Nyeoom]

Ian's got Gear Fear, unless he's just waiting to get his hands on some M61 to bring that out. His Peacekeeper Rep is insane though, max level for sure

[@ALegitimateYoutuber]

Seeing some of the comments on the takedown, i was expecting it to be bad. But no that's honestly not that bad for a complete teardown. Plus for if you just gotta pop it open you water out some stuff or something else, you just have to pop two pins. So i don't really getting what people are complaining about. Also i don't think they designed this to be a military gun, at most a rifle for higher end security groups. It just comes off as more of a gun you'd use for private use.

[@peaceraybob]

Yeah, I don't see this weapon getting many military contracts - tool needed for disassembly and the millions of pins.

[@walterchristian5202]

Can you do a video on the history of the RPK ? I never understood where and why it came about

[@razvanconstantin740]

I think he touched on that on the video about the HK M27

[@Myyra-games]

@@Klovaneer He said RPK, not RPD

[@piciu256]

@@Myyra-games he also said about rpk. Read what he said again.

[@spookygoof6176]

The answers to those questions are pretty simple. Russians and Russians

[@illegalclown]

Neat, glad to see it's not just vaporware. Everyone I knew who preordered them canceled and bought whatever new hotness was on the market at the time.

[@Ihasanart]

And they were better off, this thing is an unreliable expensive heap of junk.

[@piRaufasertapete]

Maybe Keltec RFB or RDB. If you want a rifle with a similar concept.

[@killerpeaches7]

It might as well be vaporware. This is, as delivered, crap. Overly complex, unreliable junk. If one wan't an overpriced jam prone range toy, then yeah, at least it actually exists.

[@illegalclown]

Yeah, I saw the InRange review. I will pass on this one for sure. I don't mind if a cheap gun isn't totally polished or needs some work to run at its full potential. If I'm dropping $2K or more on a gun it has to run almost flawlessly out of the box. This thing couldn't even run surplus ammo, which is my minimum standard for reliability. I understand this is new and hasn't had decades of work done on the design, but I've been an early adopter of a few guns in the past. While they were quickly surpassed by improved models they still ran perfectly on day one.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

@@illegalclown surplus ammo... reliability... Pick one.

[@DeetexSeraphine]

Huh, I have an airsoft rifle (APS-UAR) that looks strikingly similar to this; same trigger, same mag release system, same pistolgrip and cheekweld, same selectorswitch... even the same release on the buttplate. I wonder if there is any correlation between the two.

[@jasperlilienfeld505]

Would have been neat having this on the L85A2 I used. I was doing a field experience and the person next to me was a bunched up. When they did their rapid fire drill they spewed casing straight into my face and down my shirt.

[@abelstraw4562]

As a lefty, this is one of the guns I’m excited about. If they could come down on price to about the $1400 range to compete with the AR10 market then I would bite on it. I have a left ejection AR 10 that I hunt with but it’s a little unwieldy in the woods with my suppressor attached.

[@tomahan044]

Haha, silly Ian, the "star screw" is called Torx by tech normies like me

[@ridermak4111]

Simon van Eeden There are several “star shaped” drives similar to the Torx, so it could be said that Ian was just being generically safe with his terminology......but it’s probably a Torx. 🧐😜

[@ridermak4111]

Doc T’Soni, I was just having a little fun. Evidently your fun comes from being an insulting “complete jerk”.

[@themeatpopsicle]

i changed out all my screws to Robertson

[@tomahan044]

@@ridermak4111 No problem bro, you did not bully me. No reason to feel sad. Doc is a silly angry little fellow.

[@_Nyx_]

@@ridermak4111 I appreciated your comment lol completely correct with a light tone, I don't see where that other guy found offence

[@elliottbollinger3006]

The ejection system is pretty slick with everything being only two pieces that could be easily swapped. Some say bullpups are a dead end of development but this shows people are willing to improve the idea till it works just as fine as conventional rifles. Also Ian would you think of a military using a family of bullpups in 5.7, 5.56, and 7.62 with PDW, mag fed LMG, DMR, and basic assault rifle? Or a 6.4 by 38 military round? I have both ideas in my 200 years in the future on Mars science fiction novel. Your videos have been a great help for me to get ideas or information for my book.

[@ArtyTheta]

5.56 and 7.62 wont last 200 years. They might not last 50

[@ArtyTheta]

@@mkfldargfv For what i've heard the USA is looking to develop something more powerful than a 556 and something more controllable than a 308

[@elliottbollinger3006]

I am manly figuring the Martian nations would at first get old surplus till they would either have a large civilian arms industry or government run armories. The Russian colony in my book who is going through an independent war has Mosin Nagant and AKs being issued to militia units from old military warehouses.

[@ArtyTheta]

@@elliottbollinger3006 That would be like fighting today in Siria with a musket. I dont think its a good idea

[@elliottbollinger3006]

But that's all the independent movement have. They do have more modern equipment for front line units and the only the over energetic volunteer militias which are never meant to see action are armed with the older equipment. It makes them look good for the people for parades but that all their good. Even the characters all of ohm are military members of a different nation can see it is all a show and nothing more.

[@davidca96]

This is one of the first bullpups that I absolutely love. I am left handed so most I dont even bother with, but this ones setup perfectly to cater to both left and right.

[@dannydethanos6994]

I live in Utah always cool to see local firearms talent we have a weird amount of it for most of us being anti violence

[@MikeVal1369]

"Uh, staff sergeant? I lost my takedown tool."

[@charlescomly1]

Ya da...ya da.....ya da, yah it's a interesting looking gun, but the most important question is..... will it hold up under the MUD & SAND test?

[@Psiberzerker]

What I love about this ejection system is it throws .308(7.62x51) cases out a port that looks about the size of a pistol case. A really short pistol case. Not a whole lot of area to get stuff stuck in there, even with the dust cover open. Considering the fact that it's a full Battle Rifle ejection port!

[@Wyatt1314.]

I love the front half of this rifle! Omg! Yet the back looks brickish n unwieldy

[@SandblastedSkln]

Rifle like this make you truly appreciate beautiful simplicity of the the AR and AK.

[@cscearce2000]

"Micro dynamic rifle" 😂 what the hell does that even mean

[@randomazn420]

Lol sounds like a fancy term for a rifle calibered micro PDW

[@KageMinowara]

Its a rifle that's dynamic, but micro.

[@lord_hemp]

Really, what the fuck?! Like, dude, what the fuck?

[@kinomotosakura9550]

The biggest con about this rifle is that disassembly requires a tool.

[@CxOrillion]

It takes a tool to disassemble ANY gun to that point. A quick field strip is just two pins. Technically that's twice as many as an AR-15, but what're you going to do?

[@jasondoe2596]

Kinomoto Sakura, they should have integrated the disassembly tool somewhere in the stock, at least. With this much fucking plastic, it should have been easy to have a storage space (even if the tool would have to be smaller). I mean, I know nothing about guns, and I still think this improvement is totally obvious for any military-style rifle. Inexcusable.

[@kinomotosakura9550]

You're right. I glanced at the rifle, didn't watch the entire video, and assumed it didn't use push pins like an AR-15. Maybe next time I'll make sure I know what I'm talking about before I comment. It'll be interesting to see how these rifles turn out. I want them to be good.

[@sean7456]

*hasn't watched the InRange video yet*

[@LastNameTom]

Yeah, but so does the AR. Would you rather carry an armorer's tool or this one? Also, one big plus is all the pins are captive. I really hope this gun pans out because one of my biggest problems while in the Army was manipulation of my weapon while in a vehicle, or getting and out. Essentially i had to get in first then bring my weapon in and vice versa. I had the 18 inch non telescoping stock with grenade launcher. I called it my musket because it was as long as one!

[@Soravia]

The damn thing would have worked fine if they only kicked that spent case sideways and then DOWN. How can they expect any case to come out and fit that ejection slot neatly? That's before all the bent up rounds I've seen issued in military mags.

[@killahhillah14]

MDR: Money, Dollars, REEEEEE

[@saintbartholomew7434]

Ah yes, the polygamy plinker

[@jhonrock2386]

Even though I never have handled this weapon (and probably, never will), I still think this gun is awesome, just because of it's design.

[@DFX2KX]

My inner CAD/gun-design/all-mechanical-things-are-awesome nerd is deeply pleased by the clever mag release and ejection system. I'm pretty impressed by how short the length of pull looks. I've tried to design bullpups before, and could hardly get a 5.56 to be that small.

[@Weed8Gone]

Everybody: name one bullpup that doesn't have a long, creepy trigger.

[@razvanconstantin740]

The AUG

[@chinesesparrows]

Agreed, but i havent seen any serious trigger jobs for bullpups. Military m16/m4 triggers suck too but there are good aftermarket trigger packa

[@TheVillainInGlasses]

I still want to see a production bullpup with one of those electronically actuated triggers. Feel like it would completely get rid of that entire problem, and I don't think it would be all that expensive to actually manufacture.

[@DrWolfensteinz]

K&M M17S has a phenominal trigger, even compared to some of the AR match triggers on the market. The AUG triggers tend to be 8 pounds, but fairly crisp. They are good combat triggers.

[@jwill540]

X95

[@shayne7300]

That is Slick Ian, I enjoyed using Australia's AUG (F88 Austyer) as a left hander, even if it was 5.56, 7.62 was my preference back then.. I want one..oh wait, I'm an Aussie.. Maybe I need to wait for things to change again..

[@just_matt214]

This thing has more screws than a Yoji Shinkawa drawing.

[@georgeangell7149]

So basically MDR is good at shit posting (in a another word shell ejecting)

[@samholdsworth3957]

So more like an UNKNOWN WEAPON...hehehe

[@upwithguns7919]

Wouldn't holding onto spent casings add unnecessary heat to the system? Also that vent hole should help with suppressor gas as well I would imagine.

[@ryanpeck3377]

I feel like Ian posted this video about 10 yrs too early .. That or he’s just getting a jump on future videos

[@JS-ob4oh]

Special tool to disassemble = no military contract. And free floating firing pin in this day and age? Has Desert Tech gone nuts? What's keep the firing pin from moving forward if the rifle gets bumped or dropped?

[@jimkoonce6574]

As a fellow lefty, I fnd most bullpup designs useless. This one looks very well thought out!

[@magnanimus9692]

Hear hear!

[@sean7456]

*hasn't watched the InRange video yet*

[@magnanimus9692]

We're talking ergos here, not reliability. The 556 version might remedy the issues InRangeTv presented. Time will tell.

[@manasjena949]

Have u seen arx 100 /160 rifle both side ejection system ? If they can design bullpup with thay you still have chance to get best one

[@misarthim6538]

The bullpup is one of these designs that seem like it's a great idea but there are just too many issues with it to actually make it work. Unless someone comes with something radical, this is imho just completely dead end in firearms design. Suffice to say that when we judge bullpup rifles, it's almost always on a standard of how close this comes to doing the same thing normal rifles can do naturally.

[@pewpewTN]

MDR= Mormon Designed Rifle

[@danmeek928]

My brother, is the most left-handed person in the world. But for some reason here learn to fire very well right handed. I don't think he's ever fired left-handed. Just a thought

[@jerryrowe417]

Man i wish all bullpup rifle use this extraction system,it's convenient and simple for the user.

[@AugustoRallo]

As convenient as it is, i don't see much advantage in it being user reversible. Once it's on the users preferred side, it'll sit in that position forever, won't it?

[@jimbotheassclown]

LoL did you not watch the video?

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

There's a good reason why they don't though. Those assemblies are pretty complicated.

[@jenkinsonian]

This is going to be great for a civilian rifle but how will it stand up to five automatic fire mag dumps after being humped through scrub for two days? Militaries won’t except a level of reliability that civilian shooters will.

[@OhSome1HasThisName]

​@@jenkinsonian The actual mechanism really doesn't look that complicated, and cause it just swaps out would be super easier to clean/improve

[@PersonalityMalfunction]

Elon Musk is fond of saying manufacturing is 100 times more difficult than prototyping.

[@SkarmoryThePG]

man, this looks properly Starship Troopers.

[@ericmcconnaughey2782]

"...blood all over the rifle. Not a good day." Dry humor. Gotta love it.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

Ian, have you ever designed or considered designing a pistol or rifle? I would think that with your knowledge and experience that it would be pretty damn cool!

[@bDEREZZED]

The alt-flight He talks about it in the Q&As. Short answer: he has no interest.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@bDEREZZED thanks, I must have missed that one, he would be a good technical advisor for some company.

[@kylewhite8434]

Razor he hates the g3 with a passion, won't even shoot it if offered , he's like no thanks I'm good when it's a g3

[@zanderw1199]

I have a scar above my lip from shooting the SA80 left handed

[@atlas4733]

Me: sees this video Also me: *happy tarkov noises*

[@nikik5567]

Téo Calvignac hopefully in tarkov it actually works

[@shiftedfocusmusic]

@@redbullsauberpetronas why?

[@PingLaw]

Opachki

[@bigman-adv]

No way this uber complex and tight tolerance ejection port will handle reliably in sand and mud.

[@gazmeister1984]

What an awesome design. This must have cost a lot to produce.

[@rowangallagher4579]

Goofy but practical. It’s like it was made for me. Except that price tag.

[@tomaszsiudak2807]

Looks a bit like copy of Polish MSBS in bull-pup configuration.

[@44Jervis]

Except the MSBS-B is no longer developed

[@tomaszsiudak2807]

@@44Jervis I have no idea where did you hear this BS.

[@44Jervis]

@@tomaszsiudak2807 MSPO

[@tomaszsiudak2807]

Jan Moszczuk fragout.uberflip.com/i/1055276-frag-out-magazine-22-pl/115?

[@iornlint]

Correct me if im wrong isnt the MSBS just a polish bullpup acr?

[@franchychairlerois9870]

I found one in a military box located in a community housing project in custom not long ago, sold it for quite a bite of rubles

[@vek9298]

My shitposter can’t be this cute

[@vtk7763]

Ah, an SKK of culture

[@-ljk-]

Yoooo oh my God tarkov in real life woah tarkov boo the tan one is 556 not real tarkov eft escape from mdr meta tarkov!!!!!

[@Malibutomi]

Ian is the ultimate Weapons geek. Love how he can geek out on neat features :)

[@garthbrooks8119]

Can be bought and sold from standard licensed firearm retailers - but pro tip, you can find one in any Marked Room.

[@doubledekercouch]

Me, an uncultured person: bullpup ACR (Edit: yes I know the Bushmaster ACR is way different to the MDR, but I couldn’t resist)

[@scroti2042]

eh it's not a stretch, the machining on the upper receiver is very similar

[@BeefaloBart]

Im waiting for all the "The Division" comments. This same rifle has been in that game 2 years now. Im sure that is a helping hand for sales. But with starting prices 5x the cost of a cheap AR its a hard sale even though their products are cool. 308s come in at $2500.

[@bw83m94]

Beefalo Bart Bullpups in general are massively overpriced. Massively. The MDR takes it to a new level though

[@nomadicVisage]

I was waiting for the same thing. Wanted to see who would say "I do more damage once I get them to bleed or hit them with a flashbang grenade."

[@denizdurdag]

"I think I'll ignore that..." :) Gun Jesus at his best.

[@paritoshd]

Holy shit I'm buying an MDR in Tarkov just to press Shift T to do a press check, this thing is so cool.

[@IonoTheFanatics]

Dear Santa... I think I've found what I want this year...

[@jimbob9049]

Did you watch the InRange video yet? This thing is hot garbage. They were reluctant to say so, but they didn't have to.

[@IonoTheFanatics]

@@jimbob9049 I did, i still want it

[@j.j.m1abrams35]

Same

[@sean7456]

*hasn't watched the InRange video yet*

[@brianlugo5995]

Same. They had a bad experience, sucks to suck but I still want it a lot. Just going to use one type of ammo, find the right gas settings and keeping it there and I am gucci. I am not shooting garbage steel ammo through my $2,500 rifle lol if you can purchase the gun but not quality ammo then you need find another gun

[@leftnoname]

Made of unobtanium by Desert Tech. And why nobody got bullpup disassembly right like that of Steyr AUG? Why pins and bolts in XXI century?

[@r5cpt]

Turns out, it's a piece of crap. I'm calling it now: this company is going bankrupt.

[@0Asterite0]

They still somehow manage to made a good accurate bullpup bolt action

[@wilemelliott]

@@0Asterite0 much simpler design...

[@JC-11111]

You must not have any clue about this company lol. They're not new. Not sure why you'd expect them to fail. They've established themselves already. They didn't just show up last year, trying to survive off of this sole design.

[@JC-11111]

FYI, they've been around for going on TWELVE(12) YEARS. They're not going bankrupt and shutting down over this gun 😆 it's painfully obvious that you're not a gun guy whatsoever 😆

[@SandyAndy90245]

If I were Elbonia, I’d love to outfit my army with these. Weird, but actually really damn good. Edit: It saddens me this rifle is not very CA compliant as the fact it has an over pressure hole cut into the barrel to prevent catastrophic failure is amazing. Safety is obviously paramount, beyond it working and working well.

[@kaymio6547]

Why not a conversion to 6.5 Creedmoor, wouldn't that be easier with 7.62 NATO as a basis? A 20" - 24" barrel would also be much more compact with a bullpup.

[@johnstacy7902]

Exactly. Same mag, same bolt...

[@jimbotheassclown]

Why you like burning through barrels for shits and giggles?

[@johnstacy7902]

@@jimbotheassclown just dont overheat the gun... I suppose you could rebore a 6.5 to 308 once the throat goes.

[@kaymio6547]

@@jimbotheassclown AFAIK the US SOCOM and DHS adopted the 6.5 Creedmoor for their DMRs and the Mk20 (FN SCAR). It would only be logical for Desert Tech to adopt this cartridge and take some of the SCAR market share from FN. Especially as the necessary barrel lengths for the Creedmoor are less of a pain with a bullpup.

[@jimbotheassclown]

lol 6.5 creedmoor are burning barrels on bolt action guns its not the just the heat and Socom has the budget to rebarrel the few rifles they have their not big army with millions of rifles so who gives a shit about a couple thousand?

[@ringowunderlich2241]

The "Star-Key"-screw is called Torx, developed by Camcar Textron ;)

[@garlicdemon1]

Already a forgotten weapon. Oof

[@MBkufel]

23:23 Aftermarket "improvement"? You mean [content removed on request of the ATF]?

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

Are we able to classify this weapon as “Flechette only”, as it technically fires two projectiles at the target somewhat simultaneously from the same round? Hahaha

[@drmaudio]

I'm excited about this rifle, but I'm also concerned with the complexity of the ejection system. As a owner and fan of bullpups, I appreciate the problems it addresses, but it seems to requires total control and cooperation of the brass, and sometimes brass is just ornery.

[@drmaudio]

Having seen the other video, I think this may be the Borchardt, and it needs it's Luger.

[@steelreserve1000]

So they moved the mag well and ejection port behind the grip, only to shoot hot brass back towards the grip?

[@bobwampler3387]

Pretty amazing rifle design. Looks well thought out and not bad looking for a bullpup. Does the takedown tool store on the rifle in some manor? If not, it will be lost fairly quickly.