Walther Toggle-Locked Semiauto Shotgun (ouch!)

[@SarionFetecuse]

The Virgin Mossberg, has a recoil damper so you don't feel the recoil The Chad Walter Toggle locked shotgun, has recoil that will break your shoulder (ouch!)

[@michaelswagson4457]

the ouch part really got me

[@darshfulford]

Chad does not say ouch

[@augustovasconcellos7173]

@@darshfulford his shirt does

[@colinmasterson666]

…So hip fire only then?

[@darshfulford]

@@colinmasterson666 no, shoulder fire and pretend it doesn't hurt, repress things like a man

[@raylambert7227]

If I had to guess why the recoil is more than you might expect, the 65mm chamber doesn't fully contain the 67mm shell when it opens, partially blocking the barrel and raising the pressure considerably. You need to use 65mm shells to tame the pressure and subsequent recoil. All of that extra pressure is pushing a lot of weight back into your shoulder. I know it seems like a little thing, but that's my guess.

[@wallybal1297]

That wouldn't be it unless it was creating higher exit velocities.

[@raylambert7227]

@@wallybal1297 Seems to me, if you're creating higher pressures in the breech, you are probably increasing the velocity of the contents of the shell. If you increase the pressure too much, you're libel to increase the velocity of the chamber right into your skull. I've seen people put 2.75 in shells into antique shotguns with only a 2.5in chamber and they notice...boy howdy. A 2.75in shell will fit in the chamber, but there isn't enough room for the case to fully open to let the shot out. The right shell for the right chamber for safe shooting.

[@ToodlTonke212]

11:11 did the mag just swing open? Damn that's gotta be real nasty recoil

[@kenibnanak5554]

Looks so to me too. :)

[@bigmike-]

Good catch! And yes. These guns are, as the Swedes say, "total dildos."

[@Govrin.]

Mag tube

[@CapitanAP]

Yep, kinda reminds me of a Colt Walker, which dropped down the loading lever after almost every shot fired

[@PanzerLemming]

That magazine mechanism is so COOL! It looks like something you would see in sci-fi.

[@walkmanstudios9733]

Honestly still the coolest gun on this channel

[@warmachine_1396]

Polywad makes 2.5 inch shells. I load some of my own using 2 3/4 paper hulls that I cut down and end up using a roll crimper from the 1800s to close them up. It's safer to do this also as using longer shells cause pressure issues as the crimped end can't fully open in the chamber.

[@347Jimmy]

7:58 one for the floor gods 😂

[@SuperBottleghost]

FUCK. The Call of Duty "Toggle-Action" shotgun exists. Sort-of, kind-of... not really. But still, it looks the same - that's all the art director needed. It's fuckin' rare and not even military-issue, but it does exist. Now someone just has to dig up a "Karabin" - probably from Leonardo DaVinci's atelier in Florence.

[@taskforcekarma6945]

SuperBottleghost Karabin is a play on the Polish Kbsp wz. 1938M.

[@zachbrummett9672]

SuperBottleghost I figured they were both just made up volksturm guns because they both look very crude thanks for the info

[@aesthetics1583]

The M3 Grease Gun is profoundly crude.

[@brazilian733]

send it to Demolition Ranch

[@KrisKrieg1]

More exquisite German machinery! Ian you truly are a God among men and a Prophet of Germanic Devices. (I pardon you for your only crime, which is your Francophile tendencies)

[@CaretaTheSwedishBro]

Don't let the french hear you

[@KrisKrieg1]

Kinda, sorta, twice removed relative in a way. Anyhow, I feel I know you from somewhere Callum, I must have seen you around the comments before.

[@sralneman5929]

callum wright you britts are also kinda germans.

[@tjunction4996]

Sral Neman island germans

[@superdupergrover9857]

sooooooooo... Ian is guilty of a francofelony? making him a francofelon?

[@User1-T7R]

Please try it with a supressor

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

*Adolf Furrer running gasping and wheezing* :"Toggle-lock where? Where? Gimme!"

[@drustybhackleford6972]

Fuck yeah

[@wirtzluca]

And now try Walther toggle locked semi auto in German: Walther Selbstladeflinte mit Kniegelenkverschluss

[@eddyguizonde401]

gesundheit.

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

Mein lederhosen verbotten ist.

[@richardlahan7068]

Wow!

[@leximatic]

Sehr gut! Du bekommst eine 1.

[@Dea7hWarran7]

Easy for you to say.

[@Falconguygaming]

that magazine is so freaking cool!

[@bryanstellfox8521]

Yeah, that's the most badass shotgun mag I've ever seen. When he popped that thing, the cool factor was raised by levels of magnitude.

[@Tyrfingr]

Makes two of us

[@alexanderwalker3906]

About 5000 made? Nah they were standard issue in WW2 according to sledgehammer games

[@AzelfandQuilava]

Don't forget the detachable magazines. Nah in all seriousness, I'm glad they included it. Its such a cool design, even with the artistic license.

[@NexusDex]

Alexander Walker hahaha nice one!

[@christianlee3068]

Same with the volk and a prototype svt

[@daehkcidemos]

christian lee + the “NZ-41”

[@dillonc7955]

You must be new to Call of Duty. Typically better guns are used in Multiplayer more than mediocre or bad guns. You could have a full team of people using Type 5 Garands if they wanted to. There's no restrictions on how common or rare they weapons were.

[@Irondrone4]

Walther must have really hated thumbs.

[@floo1465]

So did the M1 Garand.

[@FireheartSamurai]

So does the AG42B Lugerman

[@Rixoli]

@@floo1465 Honestly, the "M1 Thumb" thing is somewhat of a myth, it only happened on guns that had really (and I mean REALLY) been put through their paces. You see it more today because most of these rifles have had hundreds if not thousands of rounds put through them in tough combat conditions.

[@fletcherreder6091]

@@floo1465 The M1 Garand loves thumbs. To eat.

[@DeliveryMcGee]

@@Rixoli And mostly it's because ppl are dong it wrong, if you load an M1 properly, you're holding the charging handle with the side of your hand.

[@TheRogueWolf]

9:42- special guest commentary from Cthulhu.

[@thedigitaldemon8010]

In his Range at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits sport shooting.

[@planescaped]

play it on 0.25 speed and watch the back of the gun.

[@Dirtbag-Hyena]

@@planescaped Like a space ship launching from a carrier's catapult.

[@overlorddante]

Every speed has a rather distinct roar/growl to it. Quite remarkable.

[@cerealata9035]

*Iä, iä!*

[@arsenal_616]

Mechanically, it's very interesting. I love the whole loading procedure. But I can see why toggle locked shotguns never really caught on. Wow. lol

[@craposnap]

Hi Arsenal, I like your Instagram page

[@AndrewHeller-jn7dx]

Why didn't they catch on; please-?

[@CCW1911]

If you think about the Luger it cycles very quickly, so quick magazine springs have to be extra strong for reliable feeding to keep up with the action. I think the quick action of the toggle is why this shotgun feels like the recoil is heavier, quicker recoil always feels heavier and is harder to deal with. It's a cool shotgun anyway, thanks for bringing it to us.

[@tikalthewhimsicott2736]

Would the recoil still feel heavy if it was chambered in 20 Gauge?

[@CCW1911]

@@tikalthewhimsicott2736 It depends on the ammo used, basically if you're shooting the same weight payload (shot) at the same speed (velocity) recoil will be equal no matter what gauge the gun is. So there are some 12 gauge loadings actually lighter recoiling than some of the heavier 20 loadings.

[@JSAst]

9:42 oh god I never want to hear that sound again.

[@LilasTools]

same.... horrible sound.

[@jayzenitram9621]

Wtf? I must have missed something. Just sounded like a slo mo shot to me. Oh well.

[@Rhynome]

J S Wtf? I must have missed something. It just sounds like demon screams to me.

[@tskwared667]

Seriously, that made my butthole pucker

[@Pcm979]

What's the problem, it's just a Tyrannosaurus Rex shouting its approval of the gun.

[@kbjerke]

"One on the ground for good luck..." I am TOTALLY stealing that!!!!!! ROTFL

[@grenworthshero]

The dadliest of dad jokes.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

You had me at "toggle-locked." Wish we could see the system used more, but it's pretty clear why we don't.

[@tskwared667]

When I first read the title the first thing I pictured was a giant toggle lever flipping out of the top like a Luger

[@BigVanillaBlast]

Hello there

[@clydemarshall8095]

I know very little about the toggle-lock aside from it being in Lugers and this shotgun. Why is not so common?

[@Pcm979]

This, a Luger, and a Pedersen rifle would be the ultimate lever-action for a 3-gun match. I could live in a cardboard box afterwards, It'd be totally worth it.

[@ostiariusalpha]

+Clyde Marshall The Winchester Model 1866/1873/1876 lever action rifles are also toggle locked. Joe Ç mentioned the main drawbacks to using a toggle system on a self-loading firearm, but one of the reasons that Winchester moved away from it was the amount of strain that shooting put on relatively small parts. John M. Browning's locking block design for the Winchester 1886/1892/1895 rifles distributed the stress to a larger section of the receiver. Hiram S. Maxim's famous heavy machine gun also used a short-recoil, toggle lock action; Hugo Borchardt and Georg Luger narrowly avoided being sued for patent infringement.

[@aserta]

"(ouch!)" in the title, it's bound to be interesting as heck. :)

[@krnts22]

The chad Walther Toggle-Locked Semiauto vs the virgin pump action

[@heibk-2017]

krnts I was literally thinking that the moment I saw the Ouch!

[@KFCGAMING55]

The m‐30 drilling ultra Chad

[@MEleven-wh2kh]

*Laughs in Browning Auto 5*

[@ludwigtheholyblade_777]

@@KFCGAMING55 The thad

[@LTGVCasanova]

Lain

[@jamesgilbert124]

8:45 "That hurts." 9:20 "Let's shoot it some more."

[@gokuss15]

Skip to 0:41 to see a cool lil dog

[@minhqun]

Josh Callejas forgotten dogo

[@ac1dP1nk]

Josh Callejas just going about his bidness

[@tommyfred6180]

woof :)

[@durtwarrior1142]

*cool lil dog anus

[@asoutherngentleman7517]

Adorable. Gun Jesus does not disappoint.

[@dak4465]

The shell tube is really cool When it fires, it looks like an autoloading artillery piece, cuz it recoils end then another shell goes it. I also think a much shoter barrel would be nice

[@linksbro1]

11:00 I feel like that thumbs up might turn into a meme xD

[@screamsinrussian5773]

Think again nerd

[@asianinvasian9022]

We already have the blond kid thumbs up meme

[@SNOUPS4]

No complete disassembly? =( Awesome video on an extra-ordinary gun anyway; thanks for having made it for us! :)

[@evanfunk7335]

SNOUPS4 its german lol it would be 3 hours to disassemble it

[@hanskc3302]

Few years ago I read an article about this shotgun. Author says that dis- and reassembly is extremely complicated three-hand process.

[@Dirtbag-Hyena]

NO!! NO DISASSEMBLE JOHNNY 5!!

[@hawks1ish]

I was hoping the “ouch!” in the title meant he got his thumb stuck in the bolt lol is that schadenfreude? 😊

[@clydemarshall8095]

I understand that you often can't take auction pieces or certain antiques to the range, but please continue giving us some range footage whenever you get the chance. I love to see these weapons in action.

[@cenglish1064]

The shotgun malfunctioned and my browser crashed. Ironic.

[@wierdalien1]

Connor English thats not ironic. Just sad. Itd be ironic if it made your computer work properly

[@wierdalien1]

mummola25 obviously a patreon.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

He's not one of us poor folk.

[@tenhundredkills]

Connor English That's coincidental, not ironic.

[@smellyfish4699]

The fact that your name has 'English' in it makes your 'ironic' comment ironic

[@Stefan_Payne]

Why is this gun so quiet??

[@saberfire89]

Stefan Payne that's just the camera mic equalizing the noise to stop it peaking.

[@quickorangefox]

Magazine unlocked under recoil at 11:11. Perhaps why there aren't more shotguns with this loading system.

[@Liam-B]

>Walther's Patent

[@KaletheQuick]

aw yeah. this is the historic tech video I needed. that calms the shakes :]

[@MrPanzerDragoon]

This shot gun has some of the most nifty, organized, minimalist settings I've seen out of the videos from Ian! German's really know how to mechanically organize their tools! Amazing!

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

That is some beautiful woodgrain on that drawer unit behind you...❤️

[@yesthecrumbs5806]

To me Ian is the white Morgan Freeman

[@mathieushifera9555]

He really is

[@ArcturusOTE]

Or an older AU version of Gordon Freeman

[@booqueefious2230]

What if Morgan Freeman is the black Ian??

[@Galdenberry_Lamphuck]

aesthetically its a really cool looking gun. i can just see a sawed off one in the hands of Blaskowitz or doomguy.

[@AshleyBrainz]

0:40 doggie

[@olafspetzki]

I don't get it: You had no chance to buy 12/65 ammo? Here in Germany they are easy to get.

[@tonsssedell4318]

That, and some short 12 gauge ammo is even marked 12/63.5 mm. That's closer to 2½ inches than 65 mm. I don't really know if "65mm" nominal is even supposed to be the same as 2½ inches. There is 65 mm ammo relatively commonly available, but I don't have enough information to use it in just any 2½ gun. With this Walther I would because it's stamped "65". Could be the same spec, but there should be more research before just trying. For example S&B slugs are available in 67.5 mm and 63.5 mm("2½") varieties, but 12/67 or 12/67.5 is, however, not the same as 2½. No wonder there was sharp recoil when firing ammo that may cause excessive pressure. Being "only" a couple of mm too long the spent cases may appear normal. Seriously, how many would fire 12/76 out of a +P rated modern 12/70 shotgun? I would not, but that's just because I know the 12/76 will cause much higher pressure when fired out of a 12/70 chamber than when shot from a 12/76 chamber.

[@janm7163]

@@tonsssedell4318 it's German. If it's stamped x65mm it is 65mm

[@cericat]

@@janm7163 probably within the nanometre knowing that part of my heritage well.

[@jordanhorst6]

That shell tube/gate system is pretty slick. I'd love to see something similar with pre loaded tubes. Maybe like polymer tube magazines that fall off when it swings open. 🤔😀

[@CThyran]

I love toggle locked guns, something about it just resonates with me. I really want this shotgun and that one toggle rifle you showed awhile back that had the action at an angle.

[@thatguybrody4819]

toggle lock also has some crazy full auto.

[@Magmadon]

"... With a judicious amount of force" sounds so very smooth.

[@russbilzing5348]

There is a photograph extant of John Moses Browning with an exposed toggle lock 12 gauge shotgun, possibly a prototype that didn't make it to the production stage.

[@MEleven-wh2kh]

I believe that was the Browning Auto 5

[@russbilzing5348]

@@MEleven-wh2kh Um, no. I haven't seen the photo for years, but I didn't get that impression. The one I saw had an exposed Toggle lock system remarkably identical to the Luger mechanism, though definitely beefier. If it was a prototypical action for the BA5, I couldn't say but we know it wasn't put into production. Thanx.

[@DL-ij7tf]

At 11:10 the recoil actually seems to disengage the magazine catch and pop the handguard/magazine down "out of battery". That would definitely be a reliability concern as it would definitely make it a 'single-shot' shotgun. Such an interesting work of mechanics though, I love seeing all the engineering attempts over the years to address the issue of making a boom haha.

[@troyjohnson7154]

Thats a good looking gun.

[@Poleson]

Totally agree! Very sleek.

[@GlennForbes20]

I know you sometimes do modern weapons if they are relatively unknow, so I suggest the Noreen BN-36. The Garand of the 21st century.

[@kenibnanak5554]

Another thumb smasher. The stocked C96 Broomhandle is another one you have to watch your thumb when shooting (the stocked Naval Lugers also tended to bite, which is why they moved the rear sight on the artillery variant). If I am understanding the discussion that safety only blocks the trigger and does nothing to block the firing pin? If so, best to not ever drop or harshly bump a loaded one.

[@tonsssedell4318]

Shotguns in general are notorious for not having a "drop safe" design. Several modern shotguns are at risk of accidental discharge in case they were bumped hard enough, including when they fall to the ground. This often applies when the safety is on or off.

[@muhughu]

I wonder if this is the wierd German shotgun that I heard sories about growing up. The story being that my grandfather bought a strange shotgun for pretty much nothing, and the man who sold it just wanted to be rid of the damned thing. He then dislocated his thumb on his first hunt with it so he just stored it away and forgot where.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Been seein' a lot of ammo hitting the ground lately. A video yesterday or so, an InRange video a day before that. I dig it. It's like up-turning a glass and letting the beverage pour out for one's compatriots.

[@JKC40]

Isn't the barrel of that action kind of high? wouldn't the barrel being further out of line with the stock increase felt recoil?

[@potatojerry2511]

Oh hiiii doggy!

[@wewd]

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART IAN!!!

[@alaskanbullworm5500]

I did not miss the target! I did nooottt!

[@soldiergone2war]

You're my favorite customer

[@Greasymarsupial]

How's your sex life?

[@JosephArata]

They still sell commercially available 2 1/2" length 12 gauge shells from Holland and Holland.

[@Dutch9604]

If you seen the doggo you have too leave a like.

[@nigel900]

Magnificent! Back when Walther quality was impeccable, and before Smith & Wesson got involved in destroying their fine reputation…

[@000Mazno000]

It's also a rather thin point of contact on your shoulder with no recoil pad, on a lighter gun. All minor inconveniences, but together, they add up.

[@IR4TE]

Yay Erfurt my hometown represents. :D

[@packbadge]

Such a beautiful shotgun. Love the mag tube/foreend and how it drops down

[@tommyliddell5980]

Swiftly becoming my favorite KZbin personality! Thank you Ian!

[@Giovanni-33]

I always drop one shell on the ground for my homies who couldn't be there.

[@worldtraveler930]

Just once I would like to hear him say that "Hi I am Ian McCullm and your watching Forgotten Weapons Wild Kingdom!" 😁

[@thatguybrody4819]

today we teach these .32 french long how to fly!

[@russbilzing5348]

I'm amused by the way he says metallurgy with the German pronunciation, though it IS appropriate, I suppose.

[@maxplaysgamesmore8552]

What a strange weapon. That is so odd I love that fact it’s a thing that exists. Definitely a great collector’s item a s a good looking shotgun too at that. I love the wood furniture.

[@alien_marksman]

Truly Fascinating. Thank you for showing us such a unique firearm.

[@darianthescorpion1132]

See, Call of Duty: WWII has it all wrong!!! It has this gun featured in the game but it’s fed with an 8 ROUND MAGAZINE!!! Thank you Ian for clearing up the confusion I’m dealing with. Really, thank you. Now I have to show this to some of my friends and hopefully, this confusion will ALL be resolved.

[@loopzoop5508]

Especially on the magazine part

[@darianthescorpion1132]

@@loopzoop5508 No kidding.

[@mikellwehrer]

I'd love that loading system on a more reasonable style action.

[@thatguybrody4819]

make the tube longer and competition shooters would love it.

[@StrohmaniasFlyingCircus]

Trench clearing shotgun?

[@blackstone1a]

Strohmann Germans thought shotguns were “inhumane”, yet they’re the ones hitting the gas pedal with a 12t weight

[@tillmannfischer]

+Steamloco all sides accused each other of first using chemical warfare in WWI, all sides considered it inhumane and a breach of international law, yet all sides continued. It’s kinda funny that the actual first use of chemical weapons in WWI by the French actually went unnoticed by the Germans, due to how ineffective it was…

[@jagx234]

They did use tear gas, rather than lethal gas, though.

[@Not_a_Necron]

France made it hard to see and breath. Germany made you cough out bits of your lungs and burn your skin.

[@tillmannfischer]

+jagx234 During that first attack, yes. Not to mention that the actual amounts used would have been better suited to stop a tiny riot, rather than an entire invasion. As I said, the Germans didn’t even know that the French used it until after the war… +Ethan Tveter That is not quite right, the French used tear gas during the first year of the war, and switched to Yperite much later in an effort to match the Germans (not to mention that tear gas back then typically contained all manner of… interesting substances, most of which left you permanently blind, or let you drown in your own vomit). That said, all kind of „poisonous“ warfare is prohibited by the Hague Convention, the legality doesn’t depend on the effects of the weapons used.

[@DeepPastry]

Wait, you threw a 3" shell into a 2 3/4" chambered shotgun, metaphorically speaking? Not cycling fully was the least of your worries. I'm not saying you got lucky, instead I'm saying you got very lucky. That's a metaphor that I'll repeat, in the form of a simile, putting a 2 3/4" shell into a 2 1/2" chamber is like you put a 3" shell into a 2 3/4" chamber.

[@Relyt345]

I actually like this shotgun, looks like it was made nicely, and it’s cool how they designed it. But in the slo Mo shot the recoil looks brutal.

[@dolunay9087]

Walther sure has odd ideas.

[@yesthecrumbs5806]

Afinoxis of Anatolia if Germans can't do it nobody can

[@fmhummel]

Many German gun manifacturers or manifacturers importing to Germany have. Since German gun laws heavily discourage the use of semi-auto guns as hunting rifles, there have been many strange ways to make repeating rifles as fast as possible. The fact that pump action shotguns are extremely unpopluar (don't ask me why) just adds to that even more.

[@MEGALODONGERS]

Should see their SMG prototype of 1918.

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@fmhummel I'm going to assume how pumpies aren't really popular is a descendant of how the Germans faced pump action shotguns in WW1 and how it left a bitter experience for them

[@fmhummel]

I don't think so. Those hardly played a big role in the war and I don't think enough people ever faced them to install such a general feeling. But they could have been regarded as military-style weapons after that, and since hunting in Germany is very traditionalist-conservative, that would have made hunters frown upon their use. Another reason could be that hunters were - and still are - afraid that they would look as if they were unskilled if they needed a shotgun that fired more than two rounds.

[@73honda350]

Almost certainly Fritz Walther referred to himself and the company using the germanic "Valter" rather than the anglicized pronunciation. Other arms-related names/references retaining at relatively close use of native pronunciations include Koch, Fiocchi, Berthier, Mannlicher, Dreyse and Gewehr, to name just a few.

[@myramadd6651]

Fairly quiet for a shotgun. Or was that the speaker turned down.

[@maeflower5108]

It's the camera mic equalizing the sound. All his recent videos. are like that.

[@joschuahelmer478]

This camera angle is freaking me out...but anyway nice vid as always. Greetings from Germany

[@bunnieskitties293]

So thats what its like to be over 6'6''. Everyone has that 'looking up at you' view all the time. Worked with a guy like that once. Big Mike we called him. You can easily guess why. Was a small town retail store, he was one of the vendors who brought in goods for the freezers. He used the tops of the freezers as shelfs to hold his boxes while he unboxed the goods.

[@M95-v4r]

12/65 is still easy to find in Austria. The three types most common types of shotgun ammo in general are 12/67, 12/70, and 12/76.

[@pbgd3]

I have a few short chambered double guns. Quick method is to get the right tools for a drill press to trim cases and roll crimp. You can disassemble shorten and reload cheapos even. Works great.

[@TheTechnosasquatch]

Late to the party, but I'd like to see one of these run with the mini shells. Wondering if they'd even be able to cycle the gun.

[@JohnFleshman]

That looks like it recoil as hard as my break action single barrel 12 gauge.

[@ZacharySkan]

This is a perfect weapon for battlefield 5. Cool loading mechanism. Not that many made. cool looking. The whole shabang.

[@jameswoods7276]

As bad as the recoil is... for 1920's its pretty damn cool in my eyes. Especially with 4+1 capacity. If I could buy / find one I would.

[@WardenWolf]

Toggle lock systems all suffer from the same innate design flaw: an overly fast action cycling. This, in turn, leads to excessive recoil due to high bolt speeds and often causes them to outrun their magazine unless its spring is at peak performance. They are also overly sensitive to the condition of their recoil spring, an issue they share with the Remington 1100 (which is gas-operated), and a weakened spring can contribute greatly to excessive recoil. This shotgun may not have been nearly as bad when new, but with worn springs the action timing is likely a bit off, causing the action to open when the pressure is too high and basically rocketing the bolt open. It's also possible the modern 67mm shells are generating just a bit more pressure than the gun was designed for, also throwing the timing off.

[@aserta]

Yeah, the short recoil end coincides with the shoulder discharge of the force...kinda...makes the whole gun mechanic useless there considering. Just my two cents. And yeah, generally speaking (as i have noticed) the more complicated the action, the more force it requires, now, there are some brilliant designs out there, that circumvent the need for force with mechanic magic, but this one, ain't one of them. I like the loading mechanism, clumsy as it is, but the toggle on a shotgun compounded on the recoil dump...not, not a good gun as guns go. I'd love a peak inside, i bet it's loaded with Germanic madness. :)

[@naturnsclips7377]

You should do a video on the evolution of shotgun shells.

[@Ghostselkie]

I like the way of loading.

[@keepironman14]

I could think of a few tweaks to this. First off, thumb protection: redesign that grip area to force your thumb away from the movement rather than the smooth path. Also look into designing the stock to compress under recoil and take some of that extra kick off your shoulder (or at least draw out the time your hit by it therefore reducing the impact) I honestly like the look of the loading design, it would be cool to see companys improve that design for better capacty.

[@zacharysperduti]

It seems like some of the excess recoil and muzzle climb may come from the fact the barrel sits so high and misaligned with the shoulder. The slide and Barrel assembly also seem to have a short travel to a sudden stop with a large mass.

[@RoseUnseen]

9:40 the new series begins ..... HUNTING INVISIBLE DEMON WITH FORGOTTEN WEAPONS !!!

[@Tekdruid]

Yeah, pretty much anticipated the recoil issue from "toggle lock, short recoil"...

[@hoodyk7342]

Loved the leaning back thumbs up haha

[@advokatMohotaev-48.]

Очень впечатлен. Прочитал про это ружье в журнале и сразу захотелось посмотреть про него ролик. Хорошо что ваш канал уже сделал обзор на это ружье, так как в России про это ружье информации практически нет а в статье не очень понятен принцип работы затвора, фотографии были малоинформативны.

[@jonminer9891]

Hi, Ian. Just saw this vid from 2018. I agree. the kick is not enjoyable, My favorite shotgun was a 20 GA Baretta. Like, recoil? What recoil? Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!

[@gwoody4003]

I am jealous of your job. I would love the opportunity to shoot odd, rare and historical firearms. 12ga is generally a pretty good kick when target shooting, even w low brass. You don't notice when theres geese in the air but shooting cans and clays, its nasty. I shoot mainly a Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag or classic 870 Express. My favorite thing to do when shooting w friends who don't know, is to slip in a 3.5inch magnum turkey load and let them give that a whirl. Lol. I gotta start recording video. Thats like getting kicked by a mule. So far only 1 has dropped the gun. These days a 3.5" magum is about $2.25 a shell so I don't really do that too often.

[@GreenCanoeb]

If you need 2.5 inch shells in the USA you can get RST brand through Ballistic Products. Or if you reload using a MEC single stage press MEC makes a handy adapter plate to make 2.5 inch shell reloading easy.

[@eddiemountain407]

I copied Ian and bought that hoodie. Its a "Särmä Merino Wool Hoodie" from Varusteleka. Great peice of clothing and awesome peice of gear. Sometimes being a Copy Cat really pays off well..

[@lukefrombk]

7:55 - 8:01 Lol, quick thinking there Ian!

[@ditzydoo4378]

The largest market competitor to this "Humpback" design was the Belgium Browning Auto-5 which was vastly superior (and wouldn't eat your thumb if you placed along the tang), and already dearly loved by European hunters.

[@Pocahonkers]

I bet Ian got really good at pronouncing "Deutsche" and "Werke" over the course of making this video. Why didn't you just say DW like you do with DWM? x)

[@kennytannenberg5851]

Germans, able to take what would be a simple design for a semi auto shotgun and make it a complicated but REALLY cool contraption. I love Deutsche engineering!

[@Feiora]

*sits down to watch and listen to Ian prattle on about a shoulder buster* .... DOGGIE! *attention gone* Btw, why does it fire so quietly with those 67mm shells? Made for an interesting slomo sound though! ^.^

[@morelenmir]

They look _remarkably_ unpleasant to use! You can see in the slow-motion insert how quick and sharply the thing recoils into the shooter's shoulder. It almost looks like you have been loading experimental, super-high power cartridges for a 'mass accelerator'!!!

[@gustavgnoettgen]

This artillery just after the war to end all wars in dshermany? Oh dear... A beauty btw