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@CB0Otz2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised nobody's commented on how badass it would've been to have seen somebody pull "The Holy Bible" out of a bookshelf and having it turn into an Uzi in an action movie.
@Kremit_the_Forg2 жыл бұрын
Has to be a Tarantino film
@Immopimmo2 жыл бұрын
And how fitting it is that the bible of Gun Jesus, is a gun.
@richardhockey84422 жыл бұрын
sounds like a good prop for the zombie killing karate expert Priest in 'Brain Dead', one of Peter Jackson's very early film - 'I kick ass for The Lord'
@wolfsbane-rw7um2 жыл бұрын
Salvation lies within :)
@loosecannon83402 жыл бұрын
For when the scene becomes biblical.
@sleepy87632 жыл бұрын
"It's a registered machine gun and not just a box" _My satisfaction is imesurable and my day is saved_
@letsburn002 жыл бұрын
*Flips the table* It turns out, the table is also a registered machine gun.
@Ohem12 жыл бұрын
And so the snake wept
@GashimahironChl2 жыл бұрын
@@letsburn00 .22 firing lathe, almost got registered as an actual firearm, but the owner was talked out of it because "what would the legal complications be if you actually wanted to machine something with a registered firearm?" 🤣
@letsburn002 жыл бұрын
@@GashimahironChl Sounds like someone needs to build a lathe-gatling machine gun in a future apocalyptic film. Just don't wear long sleeves remember, someone could get hurt.
@protogenxl2 жыл бұрын
According to the ATF if you draw a certain shape on a metal box it becomes a machine gun, even if the box stays just a box
@Mongo63a2 жыл бұрын
I owned one of the original 8 guns, in fact it was the brown one that was shown in picture. The original 8 guns were each painted a different color with the blue one being used in Robo Cop2. There are quite a few differences between the later completed guns and the first 8. Tim Bixler did the first 8 guns and they were amazing. The cocking handles were ratchet like the real FA Uzi top covers. The carry handle was mounted using a copy of the AR18 rail, thus allowing you to put an AR18 scope mount on it. The pop off dust cover was a stamped cover not the machined abomination of that gun. There is a video on the complete assembly of the first guns that came with the gun when you bought one. I still have a copy of that video around here on VHS, guess it needs to be scanned over at some point.
@bhess12122 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@esplanade922 жыл бұрын
you ever get the assembly VHS confused with the folded up gun.
@FR4M3Sharma2 жыл бұрын
@@esplanade92 Asking the real question.
@iJacker2 жыл бұрын
Pleaaaaase scan that and post it to YT!
@davidgoodnow2692 жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@extragoogleaccount60612 жыл бұрын
"Making guns is actually a lot harder than most people think" That is a great summary for all of the companies that made truly forgotten weapons for this show.
@zacharyrollick61692 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating. Making guns is simultaneously harder and easier than people think.
@justiron29992 жыл бұрын
Exactly, like sure you can make a pipe shotgun but who wants to use that but you can also make a $4k rifles and who wants to use that? There have been plenty of good and bad designs but they just couldn't hit that sweet spot.
@dracoseason37842 жыл бұрын
@@justiron2999 boss if you think a 4,000 is too expensive, ill remind you that sig sells a prototype for 8 grand and the korth line of pistols go up to 12 grand. making a good gun for sub 2000 is a hard task in today's market. you either pay 600 for a reliable gun or you pay 800 for an accurate one. you'll pay for what you want
@herbertgearing17022 жыл бұрын
Even for the people who understand the difficulty involved in firearms manufacturing, making profits from ideas is actually a lot harder than most people think.
@justiron29992 жыл бұрын
@Draco Season Hell yeah I think that 4k is too much, is it giving me a foot rub and doing my taxes? I get that with accessories can make it more expensive but there's a point where it gets to be too much.
@kopperhed44722 жыл бұрын
"Why would you want part of your gun to fall to the floor?" "It's about sending a message."
@jackgates69492 жыл бұрын
It most definitely serves a purpose here. When the gun is snapped open, that dust cover goes flying AWAY from the shooter and if it lands on any hard surface, it makes a loud clanking sound. The idea is that MAY distract the threat, buying an extra fraction of a moment enabling the operator to fully deploy and lock onto the target. The initial design actually employed a tether to keep it hanging there but that was discarded in favor after further evaluation.
@thejay8963 Жыл бұрын
@@jackgates6949 Huh... That makes no fucking sense.
@CharlieBarkinTheDog9 ай бұрын
@@jackgates6949hope youre joking. If not the simple fact you claim that a firearm is equipped with a dust cover for the purpose of it distracting someone, is enough to invalidate the claim. As if the purpose of a dust cover is for anything other than covering from dust.
@jackgates69499 ай бұрын
@@CharlieBarkinTheDog In the original redesign by Marty Pearl, the dust cover had a small hole with a ring. A wire was run through it and attached to the inside of the recoil rail. The idea was of course to keep the part from being lost etc. via this tether. But after some testing it was decided to just let the dust cover fly off. The reason given was that the flying part clanking somewhere far away from the gun could serve as a distraction. Whether this was said just to explain away a design problem, I don't know. But that was the official line from the redesign team and the owner of M6. You're free to research the literature yourself. I can say that when I pop mine open, the cover does go flying and it can be very noisy. Also, the guns were shipped with several extra dust covers with the idea being they were prone to being lost. I milled a slot in one of mine and added a USB port.
@skeetsmcgrew32822 жыл бұрын
To be fair, its so weird that regardless of what it looks like, only another gun enthusiast would know wtf was going on before it was too late
@LonelySpaceDetective2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, while it clearly doesn't hold up on close inspection folded (whether as a radio or anything else), most people probably still wouldn't recognize it as being a gun until it was unfolded.
@extragoogleaccount60612 жыл бұрын
@@LonelySpaceDetective Even then, I might think it is some non-firearm "gun." Like a weird taser or some other LTL gun.
@artyom89052 жыл бұрын
@@LonelySpaceDetective I’d commit the stupid mistake of thinking it’s a toy or something.
@AshleyPomeroy2 жыл бұрын
Given the period, it looks like an old NICAD battery, or battery pack, for a mobile phone or car radio. By the 1990s it looked way too big to be a radio, unless it was some kind of military-style radio with encryption.
@WhiteScarsEmo2 жыл бұрын
In concept, it works. In a movie or show or as a toy, it works. In reality, the more you think about it, the more impractical it comes across.
@josephramey212 жыл бұрын
Getting a gun to fold is pretty cool, but having it balance perfectly in the center like that makes it a mechanical marvel.
@VulpeRenard2 жыл бұрын
I've put this, the Ares, and the Magpul version in basically every flash game I ever worked on and I never really knew anything about them. Glad there's finally a video on one.
@extragoogleaccount60612 жыл бұрын
Links??
@VulpeRenard2 жыл бұрын
@@extragoogleaccount6061 I wish I finished any of the personal flash games I started. I stopped working on them after it was clear Flash was on the downfall, but maybe sometime in the next 30 years, they'll be remade in Unity and on Steam for pocket change. Might be a preview image on my old NG account if I even remember the login.
@GuardianOfTheHeaven2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I would definitely play the game if given the chances. It's really sad that flash games are "dead" now. I have a surge of nostalgia now.
@rudysmith14452 жыл бұрын
@@VulpeRenard I still have Shockwave Flash, I love Flash games, they were my childhood!
@VulpeRenard2 жыл бұрын
@@rudysmith1445 You might have played some I made professionally. From 2006 to 2015, I made a lot of flash games for online websites like Goldfish, M&Ms, Skittles, Reeses Puffs, Shrek stuff, etc. Basically everything unhealthy but still marketed towards children.
@davefroby91232 жыл бұрын
The butterfly knife of firearms. Very flashy, yet still simple.
@19LG992 жыл бұрын
a suprisingly accurate comparison
@Tunkkis2 жыл бұрын
@@FlymanMS There is no reason why a balisong would be any less useful compared to any other folding knife of similar quality.
@kirbyis4ever2 жыл бұрын
Just like a butterfly knife, a piss poor user is going to get their fingers knocked off playing with it.
@anotheruser6762 жыл бұрын
@@FlymanMS As a last ditch weapon before you start using spoons it's useful.
@randomidiot81422 жыл бұрын
Balisong blaster?
@PointingLasersAtAircraft2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the Robocop 2 edition of Forgotten Weapons.
@PointingLasersAtAircraft2 жыл бұрын
@@mattrobson3603 Tis the only logical conclusion.
@chestercooperpotscha2 жыл бұрын
12-year-old me I’ll never forget the moment that this thing just popped out of nowhere. I would’ve told you it’s the coolest thing ever invented on earth
@inblackestnight92562 жыл бұрын
Dang, and here I was thinking I'll be the only one making that reference. Nice to know I'm in good company!
@PointingLasersAtAircraft2 жыл бұрын
@@inblackestnight9256 I had just watched this movie last Saturday so I was fast on the draw.
@Adam-qv2bd2 жыл бұрын
@@chestercooperpotscha - The blue color just fit it well. Robocop 2 wasn't as popular as Robocop 1. If it was in the first movie, I bet a ton of more people would have wanted it.
@Kam0v2 жыл бұрын
Y'know, this thing is probably about the right size and shape that it could be camouflaged as a first aid kit, for maximum irony.
@handledhandlehandlinghandler2 жыл бұрын
Worst Aid Kit?
@ShadowGamer3002 жыл бұрын
@@handledhandlehandlinghandler the best way to heal a gunshot wound is to prevent them...the irony is that you are just making more on the guy you DONT intend to patch up.
@NareshSinghOctagon7 ай бұрын
First Harm Kit.
@JoeSyxpack6 ай бұрын
Burst Sprayed Kit.
@948320zАй бұрын
"Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting!"
@robertdevito50012 жыл бұрын
"Inspired by no less than 3, French, naturally, designs" Ian loves his French guns in case you couldn't tell.
@mikecampos11932 жыл бұрын
So is this what a bodyguard would own in France or some diplomats head of security in France cuz if this is a French made weapon it probably makes sense why they would have it.
@herbertgearing17022 жыл бұрын
It's the worst case of "Francophilia" I've ever seen.
@CxOrillion2 жыл бұрын
Saw the Hotchkiss Universal inspiration coming a mile away.
@PrinsPrygel2 жыл бұрын
@@herbertgearing1702 The question is, is it contagious?
@andrewmaddox28892 жыл бұрын
He is a ouiaboo
@imadrifter2 жыл бұрын
First Connor gets a nerdy, grumpy voice done by Ian, then Connor fn Dies. Don't Be Connor.
@adriansue89552 жыл бұрын
Its Real! the gun in Robocop2 was so boxy and crude looking I assumed it was just a scratch built prop....
@mikepette44222 жыл бұрын
I have seen that movie a dozen times and I can' recall seeing this maybe thats just a sign that I need to watch this movie again
@wanderingranger42082 жыл бұрын
@@mikepette4422 the annoying kid carries it around
@weswolever74772 жыл бұрын
I thought that was where I saw it
@inblackestnight92562 жыл бұрын
@@mikepette4422 Strangely enough I'm the opposite. That's practically the only thing I do remember from the movie, aside from the drug-fueled cyborg.
@junibug67902 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingranger4208 I believe you misspelled "the awesome crime-lord kid who swears like a sailor".
@willpatterson59462 жыл бұрын
The barrel bushing looks strikingly similar to the end of a M249 recoil spring/ guide rod assembly
@austinslaughter3192 жыл бұрын
See, now I'm here at 0:10 in waiting to see if I agree with you or not, LOL.
@frisc0strangler2072 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, you must be a devil dog…
@nelsondisalvatore98122 жыл бұрын
Neeeeeerrrd
@christopherrobin81342 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a crude SMG, I’m shock as to just how simple they are. Ian is right that it is hard to produce guns in quantity, but it is damn easy to make one or two.
@mruler3602 жыл бұрын
“Prototypes are easy, (mass) production is hard.”
@africanelectron7512 жыл бұрын
With modern cnc and Metrology control it really should not be but there are still fuck ups
@reconscout22382 жыл бұрын
You only produce barrel by forging rest of the parts can be easily casted a mediocre factory by todays standarts can produce 6000 rifles per day.
@mementomori4972 Жыл бұрын
Oh is it? How many have you made?
@saiberunato2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Wish you had a copy of the earliest version shaped like a boom box radio.
@saiberunato2 жыл бұрын
The one in RoboCop2 was colored blue.
@justindunlap12352 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes the true ghetto blaster.
@moehoward012 жыл бұрын
@@RonJohn63 But your great-grandfathers radio didn't go "BOOM!". Repeatedly.
@alexandrsoldiernetizen1622 жыл бұрын
@@saiberunato The bratty kid.
@mileslong39042 жыл бұрын
You could almost stick an iPod and a couple of Bluetooth speakers in it to complete the disguise.
@deterstruble2 жыл бұрын
Momma always says Life is like a box of chocolates You never know if theres a submachine gun inside
@secretbaguette2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody expects a machine gun!"
@frompaintopower96882 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the previous owner had this sitting on a bookshelf with a "The holy Bible" label on it! Seems like something straight out of John Wick or something.
@sjcommander915 ай бұрын
Tip: a 'strait' is a body of water, you were most likely looking for 'straight'.
@frompaintopower96885 ай бұрын
@@sjcommander91 you are correct
@ghostgamerz142 жыл бұрын
The difficulty on building a firearm is determined by how loosely you define a firearm and how safe you want it to be
@md4luckycharms2 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of building a firearm is making it in such a way that cops don't shoot your dog, your wife, your son and then burn down your house
@lanekaiser24742 жыл бұрын
@@md4luckycharms sounds like what happened to randy weaver on ruby ridge. I met him in northwest Montana in the late 90s. He was friendly to me, but it was clear he'd been through a lot and was edgey
@ieuanhunt5522 жыл бұрын
I really want to build a Luty SMG in my shed.
@ieuanhunt5522 жыл бұрын
@@i_commission_dspriscilla_a7486 Oh dang I should probably take the Luty SMG for sale bill board down then shouldn't I.
@md4luckycharms2 жыл бұрын
@@ieuanhunt552 as long as it's single fire
@JOEGUNN19902 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the magpul fmg-9 machine gun prototype from around 2008
@RMediaObelisk2 жыл бұрын
The FMG9 was an evolution of the Ares FMG that was mentioned in the start of the video.
@JOEGUNN19902 жыл бұрын
@@RMediaObelisk haha yeah I commented before watching the video. It was a nice history lesson 🙂
@pjm2042 жыл бұрын
Getting to hold and unfold the FMG-9 at 2008 Shot Show was an awesome experience.
@JOEGUNN19902 жыл бұрын
@@pjm204 lucky! I only got to hold them in call of duty 😆
@JimBurly2 жыл бұрын
Might pass as a power bank folded. Just a reeeeeeaaaaly large power bank.
@skeetsmcgrew32822 жыл бұрын
"Yeah this is 50,000 milliamps, you know. Just in case"
@kirbyis4ever2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeaaaah... It's a big power bank. Solar powered. Don't ask where the panels are.
@kirbyis4ever2 жыл бұрын
@@smorrow Doesn't disguising it as a different type of weapon defeat the purpose of designing it so that it's not recognized as a weapon?
@catfish5522 жыл бұрын
"That's my power bank. My *firepower* bank!"
@QruisS2 жыл бұрын
@@smorrow "Its a powerbank. A big one." "Why does it have an acog?" "Uuh..."
@joshuarebennack682 жыл бұрын
Someone at Kel-tec just sprayed their drink all over their monitor.
@jacobmccandles17672 жыл бұрын
"...a standard Uzi grip stick." This was a brutally honest evaluation of the Uzi grip, and it made coffee come out my nose.
@andersjjensen2 жыл бұрын
Hope your coffee smells nice...
@nickjohnson87802 жыл бұрын
Megatron after standing over the smoking husk of an fmg-9: "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be _LEGENDARY_ !"
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive2 жыл бұрын
_Hotchkiss Universal has joined the game._
@jacobmccandles17672 жыл бұрын
Shockwave deploys Full Conceal and Ideal Conceal. LifeCard cowers under sofa.
@keithweiss78992 жыл бұрын
I remember when portable radios had vacuum tubes.🤣 Some of them were much larger than that gun and were a.m. only. Great video!
@19LG992 жыл бұрын
thats exactly what i thought
@sigbauer97822 жыл бұрын
I remember when portable radios only needed a dolly to carry!
@keithweiss78992 жыл бұрын
🤣 I just told the neighbor boy about vacuum tubes and waiting for the TV to warm up. He looked at me as if I was crazy!🤣
@keithweiss78992 жыл бұрын
@@sigbauer9782 🤣You bet! I have a 1925 Operadio that is that big! With batteries it weights as much as a couple of HK-91’s. Also I have the famous tube type Zenith Transoceanic, which is portable or house current. Comes with two suction cups to stick the antenna onto your train window. In those days you really had to want to hear the radio! Of course I prefer steel frame guns to plastic. But I’m out of step with reality!🤪
@blahorgaslisk77632 жыл бұрын
Remember when a marketing argument for radios were the number of transistors used? I had one that proudly stated on the cover "9 Transistors!". And even though it was "transistorized" it liked it's batteries... But the tube based radios had the large battery packs. A six D-cell pack didn't last long in one of those. Or was that an eight pack? I can't remember other than they kept running out, and every year when you got them out the battery pack, that you naturally didn't remember to remove in the autumn when you put the camping gear away, had leaked...
@JerryEricsson2 жыл бұрын
Ah man this is right from Mattel! Back in the 60's Mattel bult folding machine gun toys and folding pistol toys. They had one that looked like a regular 35mm camera when you pushed a button it unfolded to a handy cap gun. They had one that was a small brief case that could be fired from the handle where a tiny trigger button was connected to a mechanism that dropped a hidden door in the side of the case, a barrel popped out and of course a noise maker would sound like a machine gun, the barrel was on a motor that drew it in and out of the case with each round. I was a kid of the right age to look at those toys on Saturday Morning Cartoons and wish upon wish that my folks made enough money to get me one of those toys, however I only saw them in my friends rooms or out on the street where we played all sorts of cops and robbers (i was always a cop, perhaps that is why I became one after my 8 years in the Army!)
@utubecustomer00998052 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, those were the days...kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4Onlp9rhpaDeKM
@johndallman26922 жыл бұрын
It's a bit big for a VHS cassette box, but a .32 version, like the Scorpion, should fit.
@caspianconstantine272 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the FMG-9 submachine gun. The weird folding mechanism might not be the best for a firearm but it's still of the most charming point of the FMG-9 as well as any folding machine gun like the UC-9. Looking forward to that video next
@dayshon1242 жыл бұрын
@@lostalone9320 it's basically a repair box, turned into a 9mm mini monster, MW3 dual wielding was nasty
@Alltracavenger2 жыл бұрын
I knew Utah Connor as a kid; he worked as a firearms consultant at American Laser Games, an outfit that made light gun arcade games using live action video in the early 1990s. My father worked for them as a programmer. His office was like a cave of wonders for firearms and I got to check out some very interesting things. I remember he mentioned making these and had production stills from Robocop 2 featuring the UC-9, and I vaguely remember getting to handle one. I was just a kid at the time and hadn't really been introduced to the shooting sports yet, but I appreciate the memories.
@jackgates69492 жыл бұрын
That is a VERY COOL bit of info. It makes sense...that company was out of Albuquerque...where this generation of weapons were proto'd and produced. Thanks for posting that!
@mustafasfleas73422 жыл бұрын
That would be just too cool, if painted to look like a USPS Priority mail box complete with shipping label!!! Thanks for showing this bit of 1980's kit Ian!
@PhantomSavage2 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised the secret service didn't adopt these at some point. This basically serves the same niche purpose the P90 does for the secret service today; Compact, concealable, boxy submachine gun that'll fit under a car seat or an overcoat.
@shukterhousejive2 жыл бұрын
I assume part of the P90's appeal is the special AP round it uses on top of all that. That and you don't need to do the Bloodborne cleaver animation before you shoot it
@Chaosrain1122 жыл бұрын
@@shukterhousejive but you look awesome as hell doing it...
@michaelmay54532 жыл бұрын
The P90 has AP rounds, holds a LOT of ammo and is a proven concept. This gun has no sights what so ever and cannot be fitted with any either while the P90 does and can be fitted with any sights. Also, you don't have to do an unboxing video before you can use the P90.
@anthonywilliams3792 жыл бұрын
I feel like concealed in plain sight would be the best application, such as hidden by the bindings of an old book on a bookshelf in say an embassy or other government buildings where it may not look good for appearances for your security or you yourself as the politician, diplomat or similar to just have submachineguns and rifles ready to go, while something like this applied in such a way would offer an option far more readily accessible than a micro-uzi stuffed in a desk drawer, especially if it has the full 32 round magazine loaded, additionally, in a book style configuration the whole top of the receiver would be hidden on the bookshelf so you could indeed fit it out with sights also, eliminating the "it has no sights" issue from the whole debate, only real issue design flaw I see is that it wouldn't have been that hard to add some kind of button catch release and spring assisted opening to make it more tactile to open.
@highmolecularweightRDX2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams379 Politicians haven't been the ones shooting since Aaron Burr gave Hamilton what he deserved, and security personal are always going to have weapons on their person.
@Embassy_of_Jupiter2 жыл бұрын
We need more James Bond gadgets like this in the market
@jonasandersson73672 жыл бұрын
Why? I agree but why?
@quasimodo89592 жыл бұрын
@@jonasandersson7367 because, just... because...
@Richtofen2 жыл бұрын
Fmg 9 then and still being made today
@Marktk722 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a .22 that looks like a credit card? What more do you want?
@christopherreed47232 жыл бұрын
"Were you expecting an exploding pen?"
@billyvegas1112 жыл бұрын
I shot one at Knob Creek. It was that ugly brown color and the owner added a red cross and "First Aid" on the sides. He was quite proud of that.
@snarkymatt5852 жыл бұрын
The ICRC would have just loved that!
@vaikkajoku2 жыл бұрын
Tee-hee! "Knob" 🤭
@livingcorpse56642 жыл бұрын
Would you say it would fool anyone?
@DrSabot-A2 жыл бұрын
Ian explaining radios as if it's an ancient relic of a bygone era is jarring
@LonelySpaceDetective2 жыл бұрын
I had the impression listening to him that he found it a bit ridiculous in the moment too.
@Uruz20124 ай бұрын
That just means you're old. Nobody carries a boombox anymore, grandpa.
@Deafwing2 жыл бұрын
I don't own any firearms but the mechanical workings of guns like these is pretty interesting.
@ThisGamerIsTrouble2 жыл бұрын
Every time I'd open this I'd have to make the transformer noise and say "auto guns roll out"
@LazyLifeIFreak2 жыл бұрын
Now we need a gun that is shaped like a graphics card, maybe a 3060 is big enough? :P
@extragoogleaccount60612 жыл бұрын
.......and your gun is now stolen.
@LazyLifeIFreak2 жыл бұрын
@@andrehashimoto8056 We will solve the environmental impact of crypto mining, one magazine at a time!
@Flying0Dismount2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe the phonetic similarity between the name Uzi and UC (you-see) and the fact that so many Uzi parts are used intentional or completely coincidental?
@groundedgaming2 жыл бұрын
I see
@Name-ps9fx2 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask ...you already know the answer!
@herbertgearing17022 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's a stealth joke in broken German.
@jwdunnan2 жыл бұрын
I see. UC. We see an Uzi.
@groundedgaming2 жыл бұрын
@@jwdunnan We see Uzi (U C) this is too mind bending, we should stop
@SchwererGustavThe800mm2 жыл бұрын
If they marketed these in semi and full auto variants, I see two markets this weapon would fit perfectly into. 1; Backpack gun. 2; Survival rifle. For civilians or even downed airforce pilots.
@chuckaddison51342 жыл бұрын
Don't think it would be good in either use. 9mm is insufficient for most all four legged predators, and full auto only would require more ammo than a downed pilot would probably carry. Semi-auto makes more sense, but cleaning and maintanence might be an issue.
@ShotgunGabe2 жыл бұрын
What that benefit though when you have guns like the Sub2000 or the FMG9 which are much more compact and lighter than this.
@anthonywilliams3792 жыл бұрын
I agree that it would have a place as an aircrew weapon since it's fairly low snag, even if it has a set of folding sights, could even coat the stock in fabric to make it kinder on the cheek in cold weather, but would definitely need some kind of mechanical deployment rather than just pull and the dust cover pops off since that may come loose and allow debris into it or worse be loose in the aircraft. as far as civilian marketing, barrel length is the main issue there, it would have to be an SBR out the gate, plus it would have to become a closed bolt probably striker fired weapon, additionally requiring some kind of mechanical safety to prevent it firing while folded or being folded while cocked to save on the significantly increased liability, however if the ATF gets abolished it could indeed make for a decent basis for some kind of backpacking/truck gun.
@SchwererGustavThe800mm2 жыл бұрын
All these points are valid, but lets not immediately disregard its usefulness gentlemen. Let me make the argument for pilots in particular. This weapon conceals into a light, book sized item, that means not only can it fit into a small ruck, it can fit conveniently in places such as being attached to the back of an ejection seat. That being said, you can camouflage it in a sense, making it look like something inconspicuous given the country you're in. For example, you can disguise it to look like a Quran and when the radical Islamist stops you and checks the belongings in your rucksack he'd be none the wiser. Sure, a Sub 2000 can fold but not nearly to the degree of the UC-9 and would immediately cause red flags in the mind of a guard or enemy. The FMG-9 by the same token can compete with a UC-9 but looks like a small briefcase, if behind enemy lines I'd wager if stopped an enemy would be way more suspicious of a briefcase or a folded up Sub2000 than a gun disguised as a book of his/her own nationality. Secondly you can hide a 32 round uzi mag in the UC-9, thats automatically gives you more ammo to work with than an FMG-9 or a sub2000 as they come with lower capacity magazines by default. Third, this gun was introduced decades before the other options were created. It could have had potential to grow into a modernized weapon with sleaker polymer shells and stouter improvements to the platform as a whole.
@jongustavsson58742 жыл бұрын
@@SchwererGustavThe800mm if you're a downed pilot in (insert country you don't belong to), pretty sure you in most cases would be suspicious as all hell whether you're armed or not, and disguising it as a book might work if it's on a bookshelf with other books, by itself in a rucksack, pretty sure you would need to be legally blind to not realize it's not in fact a book.
@littlegiantj87612 жыл бұрын
Ian explaining radios like we'd never seen a 'nam movie
@jg82632 жыл бұрын
Scale it up to briefcase size and with Kris Vector internals. Chamber it in 10mm.
@Teodzero2 жыл бұрын
Or you could just put a gun into a briefcase and get the same result.
@jg82632 жыл бұрын
All cool factors aside, a more refined version of this in a caliber like 5.45 or 5.7 would be interesting for military applications. The folding makes it compact for transport, and keeps the elements out of it. Conceal-ability or surprise are not priority, so external iron sights and rails are not deal breakers in that scenario and would allow for a more flexible design. As Ian pointed out, the French have done it more than once.
@jeremybriggs17072 жыл бұрын
Scale it up like that and you could make it in a rifle cartridge
@JimmySailor2 жыл бұрын
Much more mechanically interesting than I expected. Losing the carry handle/sights seems like a mistake. Instead of a hinged stock a stock box which slid horizontally over the action seen preferable. That avoids the open hinge problem.
@AnonymousAlcoholic7722 жыл бұрын
Quite honestly this is coolest of the “folders.” The fact that a 32 fits into the folded weapon makes it actually almost practical.
@EliotHochberg2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me like instead of that falling aluminum plate, that could instead be turned into a form of sights that could flip around and lock to the top
@personalstuff30192 жыл бұрын
No zero, but tbh if you're shooting this thing are you using the sites?
@mattfleming862 жыл бұрын
How Kellgren!
@BillRoyMcBill2 жыл бұрын
Or at least a chain or wire/cable attached to the plate so you don't loose your valuable component if you survive whatever encounter you had to use it in.
@sigbauer97822 жыл бұрын
That would be "sights"...
@jacobmccandles17672 жыл бұрын
@@sigbauer9782 Jawol, Herr Bauer!
@vizzy612 жыл бұрын
I love the "Audio and Visual distraction" lol 😂😂
@highjumpstudios23842 жыл бұрын
I thought the one painted like a medical box was pretty neat
@kerbalairforce88022 жыл бұрын
Geneva Suggestions
@heathb43192 жыл бұрын
"Making guns is actually a lot harder than you think" Brandon's AK-50 pouts and walks out of the room...
@mabs95032 жыл бұрын
Be cool if there was one that fit inside a VHS box.
@Hipas_Account2 жыл бұрын
That was my 1st thought when i saw it, "a neat tactical VHS Casette."
@calvinhill29752 жыл бұрын
Put a blockbuster sticker on it. Oh my.
@angelbangtana98852 жыл бұрын
I think a 226 might fit....
@1stCallipostle2 жыл бұрын
@@mergru6371 I feel like today "Laptop battery" and "Notebook" would be the only good disguises for this thing Though it's a little big for both by modern standard Or maybe slap a Nintendo logo on it and pretend it's a Switch case
@Arbiter0992 жыл бұрын
"Be kind, reload," doesn't have the same ring to it
@munsunsnight2 жыл бұрын
"It was painted with brown ugly 1980s color" that pretty much describes the whole decade haha!
@semibreve2 жыл бұрын
this thing is so slick! I love the charging handle/laser assembly, and just the general, smooth yet boxy appearance
@miao_56192 жыл бұрын
"Mom, can we have MagPul FMG-9?" "No, we have MagPul FMG-9 at home!" **MagPul FMG-9 at Home:**
@CMDBob2 жыл бұрын
Getting very much a "back in my day" vibe, haha! Still, a fun little package. The label adds some extra sacrilegiousness, always fun.
@extragoogleaccount60612 жыл бұрын
I feel like I should make a Book Of Eli reference, but don't remember enough about that movie aside from the Bible somehow becoming the ultimate weapon.
@Adam-qv2bd2 жыл бұрын
@@extragoogleaccount6061 - Great movie. He had the entire bible memorized. Reminded me of Al Pacino's devil character on The Devil Advocate.
@dominicrichardson55462 жыл бұрын
FMG was one of my faves in MW3, would love to see a video on it even if it's basically the same thing as this
@mrs.vasquezz2 жыл бұрын
Its supposedly coming out soon for real
@0dayExploit2 жыл бұрын
Zev is working on a relaunch of the FMG for the civilian market. Should see some more info later this year and a possible release in the next year or two
@dominicrichardson55462 жыл бұрын
@@0dayExploit if only I didn't live in the UK 😅
@0dayExploit2 жыл бұрын
@@dominicrichardson5546 F
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the laptop gun in Nintendo 64's Perfect Dark.
@Hysteria982 жыл бұрын
Magpul just recently announced they reconsidered going ahead (after 10 years and some video game influence) with their FMG-9 adaptation of the ARES model for commercial sale. They have a video on their KZbin channel.
@1stCallipostle2 жыл бұрын
Who knows if it'll actually manage to come out this year But I sure hope it does
@loserdogygo2 жыл бұрын
imagine how much farther we would be with machinegun research and development without the 80's law. A civilian market would encourage some amazing designs.
@conorkelly9472 жыл бұрын
You're already so good at killing each other I don't think help is needed on that count lad
@theREALdingusMD2 жыл бұрын
@@conorkelly947 Why are you the way that you are?
@porrod43132 жыл бұрын
@@conorkelly947 no no lets continue, i want to see what people come up with
@conorkelly9472 жыл бұрын
@@theREALdingusMDI have parents that love me and raised me well
@Teh_Bean2 жыл бұрын
@@conorkelly947 If someone is going to commit murder, they're going to do it no matter what they have available. You seem to forget that crime happens in countries other than the U.S.
@jg82632 жыл бұрын
I wonder if one could design this to charge the bolt as it opens? It would really make it a fast deployment.
@kirbyis4ever2 жыл бұрын
Since it's basically a square uzi that unfolds you'd need to have the charging handle linked up to the folding, and it would add resistance to how quickly you can unfold it. Since it's supposed to catch people by complete surprise (Suddenly a box is a gun!) it might not be that big a deal.
@vega12872 жыл бұрын
@@kirbyis4ever alternative solution: charge the bolt when you close it
@mattfleming862 жыл бұрын
The bolt travels into the stock area. Therefore, if it were cocked and folded it would have guts hanging out the rear (oh, and no trigger to hold it there since it is now folded away from the bolt)
@jg82632 жыл бұрын
@@mattfleming86 yes, so it would have to be a system that works during opening operation, as it cannot be charged when folded. All an interesting thought experiment, as it would never actually be made.
@b.a.beterman84552 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest issue you'd have to overcome, is that the magazine well is not inline with the chamber until it is completely unfolded.
@slutmonke2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest/quirkiest guns you've had on the channel in a long time. Great story too. Well done!
@massivepileup2 жыл бұрын
You could probably make an even better "box that turns into a machine gun" design out of the G11 mechanism since the mechanism wouldn't need to fold at all.
@vizzy612 жыл бұрын
yea, but the g11 is a very large box in comparison, and a key point with a lot of these typa designs is being small and concealable
@beltfedTODDRULZ2 жыл бұрын
G11 is so absurdly complex...... P90 and an angle grinder and now you are on to something
@TheLovsethxs2 жыл бұрын
"what's in the booox?!" -some detective idk
@vladpiranha2 жыл бұрын
This thing and the Hotchkiss Universal SMG should hang out.
@czs93802 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep up the great work.
@unx742 жыл бұрын
welcome to new hampshire ian, live free or die. glad you visited one of the cooler places here!
@azexnewmai36072 жыл бұрын
When I am bored, I imagine my 3x7 inches power bank to be a foldable 9mm smg….. Am 30 btw…..
@davidgillon27622 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remembered there was a Russian folding SMG at around the same time-period and a quick google confirmed that it was the KBP PP-90, and a copy of the Ares FMG (and just as much a success as the American pair).
@caydenr28484 ай бұрын
Ive been looking for this one for a while.
@tylerchristopherson42452 жыл бұрын
hey this gun was in robocop 2, I always wondered about it. Thanks Ian!
@drdoom-skull22442 жыл бұрын
An airsoft company made a fully working replica of this a few years ago. Airsoft can be a good way to experience the form factor for hard to get guns
@jackgates69492 жыл бұрын
The Magpul FMG Airsoft. Great gun but unfortunately it was expensive and had some design flaws that allowed some parts to fail. Discontinued after only a year or so and expensive collector pieces today.
@embracethesuck10412 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize Volvo made SMGs.
@quadnudli13802 жыл бұрын
I wanna see an episode for april's fools when Ian talks about a box. Just a box.
@themittonmethod12432 жыл бұрын
Q would be proud of this design! The PO labeling it "Holy Bible" just cracked me up! Thank you for reviewing this piece of firearms history, Ian! Cheers from Canada.
@Nomad_za2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, speaking about Robo-Cop I would still love to see someone develop a real Auto-9. That is a really awesome looking gun.
@wraithcadmus2 жыл бұрын
It was a prop built over a Beretta 93R, which Ian has yet to do a video on. Amusingly they were going to use a Desert Eagle, but with the large gloves of the costume it looked comically small, leading to them building up a smaller gun to the size they wanted.
@owenkegg56082 жыл бұрын
@@wraithcadmus Shit gets real when a desert eagle looks comically small
@MrChadsimoneaux2 жыл бұрын
@@wraithcadmus But they still thought it was cool which is why Clarence had one. What I wanna know is: are there really suppressors for Desert Eagles?
@CorvusCorone682 жыл бұрын
@@MrChadsimoneaux yes, there's even a video on KZbin where someone fires a suppressed 50cal Deagle
@Shotokan10012 жыл бұрын
@@MrChadsimoneaux Yes, there are even have suppressors for tanks, you can do it with almost anything.
@achillebelanger98662 жыл бұрын
All the looks and appeal of a Carpet Stapler. Need a pop up ,spring loaded Switchblade Bayonet M.
@thefrogking4812 жыл бұрын
What you got against carpet staplers? Its not like it's a slap stapler that's guaranteed to smash your knuckles every time you use it, spilling T50's all over the place..... Damn, I know too much about staplers.
@ThZuao2 жыл бұрын
My favorite show! Forgotten Boxes with Box Jesus!
@Croak12 жыл бұрын
I remember having a folding toy "spy gun" that looked like a radio back in the 70's.
@JanoTuotanto2 жыл бұрын
It was called "The Ghetto Blaster"
@Croak12 жыл бұрын
@@JanoTuotanto It predated the ghetto blaster era...think Japanese transistor radio.
@thefrogking4812 жыл бұрын
There were several "futuristic" weapons in RoboCop, one of which was the Barrett M82A1. There are other "Easter Eggs"....dig you'll find them.
@wraithcadmus2 жыл бұрын
Barret + old viewfinder = Cobra Assault Cannon. And yes, the easter egg I can think of is you can spot a stovepipe malfunction when Murphy uses it to destroy the ED209 out the front of the OCP building.
@ThaBigChicken2 жыл бұрын
Dang Ian! You should have told me you were here in NH! Glad you enjoyed your time at Shooters Outpost!
@paulanhalt36092 жыл бұрын
That has some really clever little mechanisms for locking in place. Cool to see
@MDbam2 жыл бұрын
It’s 5 am in Los Angeles, I have given up trying to sleep, it’s nice to see that 1 hour later, in Arizona, Ian isn’t sleeping either.
@Arbiter0992 жыл бұрын
He queues these up for release weeks in advance
@MDbam2 жыл бұрын
@@Arbiter099 great
@hughjasse76362 жыл бұрын
They should have marketed these things to the military as personal defense weapons for downed Pilots and similar. With how compact it gets it might have found a market, maybe in a different caliber though.
@falloutlover54432 жыл бұрын
I love the hollow metallic clanging that thing makes at the slightest bit of handling.
@droganovic68792 жыл бұрын
Yes Ian! More "forgotten weapons that look like boxes"! Love those old blocky submachine guns 😀
@RhodeIslandWildlife2 жыл бұрын
It's before Ian's time but some of us may remember the "Agent Zero M Radio Rifle" by Mattel that cashed in on the Man From UNCLE series craze. It predated Robocop by at 25-30 years and sounds a whole lot like what's being described here.
I had that complete set, it included a camera that similarly snapped open to appear from the back to look like a P-38 pistol. Included cardboard foldouts that turned into a pair of Morse code semaphores and the entire box folded into a briefcase. As I recall, the complete set was branded Man From U.N.C.L.E. but hard to argue with the commercial evidence you supplied. 👍
@RhodeIslandWildlife2 жыл бұрын
@@Ni999 I remembered it as Man from UNCLE too. Searched for dated picture proof when i found that. Ian's fans are pretty rabid and they'd be jumping in my sh!t with both feet without it.
@fredboat2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Still pretty slick. Personally I would buy the Hotchkiss SMG .
@EmonWBKstudios2 жыл бұрын
"And you will KNOW that I AM THE LORD when I lay my VENGENCE UPON THEE!" The former owner of this weapon at the gun range, presumably.
@loupiscanis94492 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian . 🐺
@jackmcslay2 жыл бұрын
It's actually not hard to disguise it as a USB hard drive. There are still 3.5" external hard drives being sold today, usually in the >4TB category as no 2.5" drive exists above 4TB yet. It could even be made functional as an external 8TB drive by putting 2 M2 SSDs in Raid 0 in it.
@kirbyis4ever2 жыл бұрын
Ah, jam some drives in there to REALLY sell it. Hard day at the office and suddenly people are busting in? You're covered.
@kerbalairforce88022 жыл бұрын
True, but it's still strange seeing someone carry a drive around like a brief case. Best bet might be to just carry it, and not draw attention to it.
@sumvs59922 жыл бұрын
(Obligatory "looks like something I drew when I was ten")
@malcolmgeffon80722 жыл бұрын
Super cool to watch!
@andersjjensen2 жыл бұрын
Tacticool will never die.. From the brass-knuckles-knife-guns to this. I'm pretty sure early cave men had heated arguments about which club was the most tacticool...
@MrGunny20092 жыл бұрын
Mattel beat them to it by many years. In the mid 60s I had the Mattel Agent Zero M Radio Rifle. I wonder if they will be paying patent license fees to Mattel.
@sark31532 жыл бұрын
Wanted on of these since Robocop 2
@kyrozudesoya18292 жыл бұрын
YES
@bliblablubb95902 жыл бұрын
Guy disguises a full auto submachine gun as the holy bible. Mighty fine sense of humour, you got there, lad.
@sparky68552 жыл бұрын
And who else to make a video on it but Gun Jesus?
@bliblablubb95902 жыл бұрын
@@sparky6855 And the circle is completed.
@sparky68552 жыл бұрын
@@bliblablubb9590 Well, he just has to take it to the range someday now!
@mydyslexicperspective43622 жыл бұрын
Now this is the stuff I love to see
@livingcorpse56642 жыл бұрын
Its funny how a lot of technology, no matter what it is, starts off big but over time we make it smaller and more ergonomical.
@simonh63712 жыл бұрын
Except for smartphones.
@livingcorpse5664 Жыл бұрын
@@simonh6371 Don't remind me. I loved my old flip phone, I hate how bulky my smartphone is (more like dumb phone).
@sevenproxies42552 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would be too hard to work out a mechanism to give it "iron sights". Like the front could have a slotted plate that you push upward to give you an iron sight at the front. In folded position you just depress that plate and you maintain the flat box shape.
@bl4cksp1d3r2 жыл бұрын
I mean, as the radio configuration, the grip would've had the iron sights in it
@mandaloin2 жыл бұрын
forgottenweaponsthatlooklikeboxes actually redirects to this video. Beautiful.
@Thermalions2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I noticed that too. Will be interesting to see if the person who registered it ends up renewing it down the line.
@TheJolle2 жыл бұрын
A gun you can hide in your VHS collection
@suddenwall2 жыл бұрын
If you hold B and press Z it turns into a sentry gun