PSM Shooting: 5.45x18mm vs 7.62x25mm on Soft Armor

Following up on yesterday's history and disassembly of the PSM, today we are taking it out to the range for some shooting. In addition, wehave some generic Level IIIA soft body armor to test. We will see if the vaunted PSM can do better than the 7.62x25mm Tokarev - another Soviet handgun widely regarded as being excellent at soft armor penetration.
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[@Nukle0n]

Whenever Ian yells something before unloading, there's always trouble. Last time it was when he yelled "Disperse in the name of the United Fruit Company!"

[@friederichhuepfenstolz4011]

It's in the "Thompson Riot Ammo" video, I think.

[@yam83]

Nukleon And that's why I love Karl and Ian! :D

[@jacobuponthestone9093]

Which got an instant grin out of me. And yea it's the riot ammo video.

[@kohinarec6580]

Yeah, that's a classic! So dark - and so sadly true. Btw, check out Pablo Neruda's poem *United Fruit Co.*, if you're not familir with it.

[@MesserMorfeo]

Ian confirmed as a KGB agent.

[@betaich]

No comrade FSB is for in country security and such. For other countries it is either the SVR or the GRU.

[@МаксимБромберг]

Он настоящий майор КГБ под прикрытием.

[@conorfoster2337]

PatMac is coming for him now

[@therealfranklin]

tovarich vrach akul, da?

[@Andvare]

Does this mean that GunGod is Lenin?

[@Chetanishe]

"Die CIA pig!" - GunJesus, 2017

[@mruler360]

BUBBLEGUM GUN HAT SUB! Shit... this isn't Reddit.

[@YoungBrave2006]

Gun Jesus wins you the internets today sir.

[@gallardworth]

I think the cia pig got him first

[@mrsbunny5637]

Had to replay/click pause as I was laughing to hard at that segment. :D

[@DzinkyDzink]

The God has spoken! Dismantle the CIA!

[@IanCaine4728]

The CIA thing reminded me of when Ian showed off the riot ammo, "Disperse in the name of the United Fruit Company!"

[@DustinKing77]

The PSM is such a cutie! "pok pok pok pok"

[@iplayzgames8241]

*Happily penetrates your body armor*

[@josephledux8598]

Ouch ouch ouch ouch.

[@heavystalin2419]

Do you want a poke?

[@LordMarchewka]

I'm a Polish cop, when I used to do patrol duty, we were getting level III A Dyneema vests with additional - also soft, slightly smaller than SAPI plates - panels in front and back specifically rated for stopping 7.62x25mm from a TT. The rest of the surface of vest was not expected to stop Tokarevs.

[@MrTruckerf]

I thought the US was the only country in the world where cops had to face gunfire!

[@LordMarchewka]

We don't have too much of those, but had a few casualties in recent years. Up until like three years ago it's been quite uncommon for patrolmen to wear ballistic protection even when issued, after a bad streak it became more prominent.

[@nemoexnuqual3643]

@@MrTruckerf of course not. The US doesn’t even have the homicide rate of Greenland. The US just has more gang violence. Even mass shootings are way worse in Europe because the shooter is unopposed

[@rafalo2323]

hi, thx for comment, do they also learn you to wear ballistic inserts with white label in body direction, not fire... in opposite than the psm test video?

[@asharnygee]

The Tokarev managed to penetrate the body armour without having to say 'die cia pig'- which I was expecting to be essential

[@agentbarron3945]

tokarev was produced before the cia was founded therefore you dont have to say "die cia pig" to get the full penetration capabilities, a simple "URRRRAAAAAA" or "DIE SUKA DIE" generally works for me.

[@VxNemesis]

Let's remind people that a 3A stops .44 magnum and also stops most 12 ga (even if it's not survivable). Defeating a 3A is not simple and the fact that a .22lr "like" round does it is quite a feat. A lot of modern 3A have "special menace protection" wich means they have an additional layer to protect from 7.62x25, psm, 5.7 herstal and 4.6 HK (all from a pistol, not a rifle).

[@1179125]

there are 5 CIA agents watching this clip now.

[@o2wow]

The NSA says, "7 CIA agents are watching."

[@nancybarnes29]

six

[@JC-XL]

Google audio recognition bots alerted them momentarily

[@TheSlovenlyTactician]

"Die CIA pig!" Channeling some Terry A. Davis there, Ian?

[@dan8t669]

I hoped to find a comment like this.

[@888nevik]

GLOW IN THE DARK CIA NI-

[@MrRattlebones640]

"Not Today CIA!" Ian from Forgotten Weapons.

[@sircarter2428]

So we meet again

[@MrRattlebones640]

Whom are you?

[@dazzershell]

Американцы обожают всякие ништяки с советской символикой. Отец когда подарил коллеге из штатов ментовскую фуражку, тот очень ей обрадовался) "Оу! Кей Джи Би!" При чем тут Кей-Джи-Би, не знаю, но у них эту штуку оценили. Он ему ковбойскую шляпу потом прислал)

[@Catcrumbs]

Incorrect use of 'whom' makes you look very pompous.

[@luckyluciano4075]

Vladimir Lenin hey Vladimir!

[@MEGALODONGERS]

In Fast & Furious 6, the PSM is described as the only gun to fire the 5.45x18mm cartridge. That's incorrect. The OTs-23 Drotik machine pistol also fires it, which is a more practical platform for the cartridge if you're trying to get through armor.

[@jaxativejax662]

So does the OTs-21 Malysh semiautomatic pistol which makes the PSM seem huge by comparison.

[@УропПомидорыч]

A 5.45x18mm cartridge is also used in the Margolin pistol(version of "Drill). You could see it in the hands of Princess Leia.

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

That's the sort of idiocy that happens if you rely on firearms information from a movie or a video game..

[@sbohm7288]

There is also a very rare KTS walther ppk in this caliber

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

« Hi, I'm *Ivan McCallum* and today we shoot a CIA pig » 😂

[@RedXlV]

About that similarity to the Kel-Tec. Combined with the fact that a .25 ACP version of the PSM was rejected for import? That just goes to show the real purpose of the import rules of the 1968 Gun Control Act was just to protect domestic gun-makers from foreign competition. Probably that's why the American gun industry didn't lobby against the law at the time it was passed.

[@crossfox1991]

Also why you can't get cheap norinco guns

[@demonprinces17]

That was Clinton

[@agentbarron3945]

@Paul Horn now a days anyone can get a level 3a body armor shipped to their door without an ffl all they need is a drivers license. if im ever in mass shooter situation where the dude wont back down till he is dead I hope the good guy with a gun (either a cop or a ccl holding citizen) either has the aim to shoot for the head, like in the texas church shooter who had level 3a body armor on, or a round powerful enough to go through it

[@Paelorian]

That's why the domestic gun industry doesn't strenuously oppose import bans. But although they may have an incentive, I haven't seen any evidence of them supporting firearm import bans. I'd have to call it a conspiracy theory. In modern times they also have an incentive to oppose all gun control, since their customers will be upset with them if they support any gun control bill, such as import bans. The main reason we have import bans, the driving force, is so that anti-gun politicians can tell their constituents "I banned the import of assault weapons", even though functionally identical weapons are manufactured domestically for commercial sale and the van doesn't affect the availability of such weapons on the market. I've heard enough Democrats brag about banning the import of "weapons of war" to know that this stupidity is the primary reason we have such bans. Anti-gun people know that the import bans don't really do anything, but they support them anyway since they never met a gun ban they didn't like and are happy to upset the gun-buying public and force prices higher so that fewer people can afford to shoot. I'm sure American ammo manufacturers wouldn't be thrilled about cheap Chinese slave labor ammo flooding the market, but they survived back in the day when cheap mil-surp ammo was widely available. Demand for American ammo will persist (we make superior ammo), as will demand for American firearms to shoot the cheap foreign ammo in (we also make superior firearms). Overall, I believe the repeal of import bans would be a great benefit to the domestic firearms industry. Foreign competition in some sectors would shake up the market, but it would make shooting more affordable and interesting and increase sales overall. It would especially help attract more people to shooting hobbies and sports.

[@1stCallipostle]

@Paul Horn I too will iterate Not everyone wearing a vest is a good guy. Armored Criminals and Corrupt Cops are very real threats if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time AP handgun ammo SHOULD be available to the common man

[@yolkhere]

5.45Х18 cartridge lost most of its already diminutive energy quite quickly as distance increased. This made the completion for the OTs-23 “Drotik” automatic pistol (5.45x18mm three-round burst with 1800 rounds per minute).

[@Armageddon2077]

Hey Ian - have you ever had a chance to fire a Stechkin automatic pistol (APS) and if you have access to one can you maybe do a video on that pistol?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

+Armageddon2077 Not yet, but I would like to!

[@Ecosse57]

awesome channel, ian. thanks!

[@MegaAdeny]

I'm actually from the future, and he just has! Go check it out!

[@davydovua]

Wait. I'm from February '19, Ian dual-wielded them in January '19, so a month ago. Your comment was posted 4 months ago. WHAT IS YOUR MAGIC?

[@iplayzgames8241]

@@flowerpetalpetrolfire EXPLAIN YOURSELF TIME TRAVELLER

[@alexgottmituns7049]

I love the Tokarev round. I have a 5.13" Tokarev conversion barrel in my 1911 38 Super: 8+1 (using flat follower mags). 1750-1790fps. It's a monster of a round.

[@thebes56]

Ordered the PPS43C myself!

[@missouripatriot6926]

Is it hard to make it run or do

[@TimCools_WithALongO]

When he said "Die, CIA pig!" I really felt that :')

[@a_shuchu_601]

More armor penetrating Soviet pistols? Will you make a video on Gsh-18?

[@Feeshgmod]

A level 3 book would have been a better target

[@heathcliffe8446]

Feesh Garrysmod Tolstoy or Dostoyevski?

[@bsuper63]

@@heathcliffe8446 war and peace

[@josephledux8598]

@@bsuper63 Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of reading the unabridged, unedited version of The Count of Monte Cristo knows that it clocks in at at least level 5. You could build a bomb shelter out of them. Not a criticism of the novel. It's easily worth every single ounce.

[@MrMonkeybat]

You could fit a lot of those 5.45x18mm bullets in a full frame double stack pistol, or an SMG with a helical magazine. With a bottleneck it should have more velocity in longer barrels also.

[@peterv1318]

I was thinking that. Something like a Glock 17 size in this caliber.

[@MrTruckerf]

A chrono reading would be nice. The info I have found online gives a 40 grain bullet at 1000 fps. That is simply a FMJ .22 LR. I can get 1000 fps out of a 3.5" barrel with several .22 LR brands.

[@recoilrob324]

That little round matches the 22 LR fired from a rifle barrel...which out of that itty-bitty little gun is pretty decent. 22 LR out of similar length barrel would likely be in the 800-900 fps at most so the Russians have upped the ante quite a bit there. Add in the FMJ with hard pointy end and ZIP....right through the soft armor. Those clever Russians!;)

[@williamster2015]

Recoil Rob have you never heard of .22TCM?

[@miguelburgueno4891]

...sure... Try to penetrate a vest with .22 LR, asshole. It´s incredible the NONSENSE that one has to read in these forums.

[@ferna2294]

@@miguelburgueno4891 He never said a 22lr could go through body armor. What a horrible surname you have.

[@miguelburgueno4891]

@@ferna2294 Well, tell me about WHAT this guy was writing... ...BTW, what "sort of name" is yours, idiot..?

[@Skulgar321]

@@miguelburgueno4891 He's saying that the 5.45 out of a tiny pistol is performing as well velocity wise as a 22 out of a rifle, which is impressive. He said nothing about penetration.

[@tehgreatvak]

Dang the PSM is a cute little thing. No homo. (wait, a woman was involved in the design, does it make it a feminine gun? maybe I should stop embarassing myself further?)

[@ThePandoraGuy]

Boss, is that you?

[@Lazarus7000]

I'd love to see how .30 Mauser does since that's the ancestor of 7.62 Tokarev and was famed for being a very stout cartridge to the point that I believe the C96 was for a long time the most powerful semiautomatic pistol on the market (We won't count the Mars pistol as they were never offered for regular sale).

[@drmaudio]

While they preformed the same through the armor, I would imagine the 7.62x25 would have a significantly better terminal effect on the other side, but that is still fairly impressive.

[@Douglas-Ops]

These are great videos F.W!, I tried out my 7.62x25 on a ballistic trauma insert, but never came a cross the PSM 5.45x18. what a great "little" gun. Thanks for posting, love these,you guys are a wealth of information.

[@DanielWW2]

But will a book stop this bullet...

[@alfaradiation]

I don't know, lets try it. We need a volunteer.

[@DanielWW2]

Please don't. One idiot dead is more than enough...

[@rafaeloliveira5327]

alfaradiation I volunteer! but you will need to use a 120mm cannon to shoot me. I bet my book will stop the bullet

[@YoungBrave2006]

What´s a book? Is it like an ipad, except more stupid? Never mind, I´m so into this VR thing now, everything else is worthless.

[@attrexius8034]

@@YoungBrave2006 It's a type of early composite armor.

[@RuBearUSA]

Ian, thank you so much for this video! I have not seen a PSM for over 20 years. Could you please comment what specific ammo was used in the TT? To confirm whether it was made for the handgun or submachine gun would be great.

[@Boojakascha]

both are great armor piercer =) but I think we all knew that. It's no 5.7 but lovely nevertheless. Great video, thank you very much, Ian!

[@jquinones7683]

Funding for a slow mo camera is needed

[@wierdalien1]

J Quinones he has one. You mean a better one.

[@jasondoe2596]

2:24 my sides... xD

[@wqwwqwqqpoppopoo]

I just love watching guns cycle in slowmo

[@zeroalpha4818]

actually i didnt believe that 5.45 would do it.. but it did.. that was awsome.. i wd love to see that act on ballistic gel.. how it performs on tissue.. nice video Ian

[@BigWillyG1000]

I was wondering what post penetration effect on a body would be. Wouldn't shock me if it pierced armor but was creating marginal wounds.

[@healix8526]

Love it! Outside of Russia or Russian speaking channels, you don't see many PSM reviews. Cool little pistol. Id love to get my hands on one of the originals with the aluminum grip panels.

[@Barmagloth]

For good armor piercing effect you need either PYa, SPS or GSh-18 with 9x21 AP cartridges. PSM concealed carry pistol never had AP ammo AFAIK. Neither it was used as an assasin weapon. You probably mistaken it for even smaller PSS pistol, which IS an assasin weapon by design. PSM is in fact a kind of commander's "last resort" weapon - to fire a couple rounds at unexpected attackers, than fire yourself at the head (you do not want to be captured and interrogated for state secrets, do you?).

[@kappega]

Thats what he said in a dedicated video, he's not mistaking it with anything, he just voiced public perception of the gun

[@AshGreen359]

Liberty Civil Defense ammo and Fort Scott Fort Defense ammo also defeat level IIIA body armor.

[@howardmaryon-davis666]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the PSM was issued to very senior officers in the Red Army, and often presented in lovely wood cases with tools and magazines, with superior finish and sometimes tasteful engraving. I would love to see one of those....

[@Maxim_Miroshnichenko]

Not exactly. The officers accompanying the senior officers could take the gun. It is very convenient in everyday use. Does not spoil clothes and does not burden with its weight.

[@ritmomotor]

If you try same test with UHMWPE fabric , result will be diffrent. This is why Kevlar out of fashion in defense industry. heavy and not good against Russian ammo.

[@Mamiya645]

I hear a level 3 vest protects you from slight online disagreements and different-thinkers in the more college-packed university states.

[@henrybrown8624]

I truly shudder to think how much all the 5.45 cost that you shot! Neat pistol and neat demo. Thank you

[@-alfavucjak]

Me: blow my mind Ian: Tokarev has same penetrating power as psm

[@Bearthedancingman]

I saw this the other way around. "yeah, I've seen the tokarev poke through armor. But that 7N7 round is just a pointy 22LR" . Then my mind was blown.

[@noelmoreno5879]

@@Bearthedancingman but with more pen than a. 357

[@arieheath7773]

I would love to have one of these in .22 or .25, damn you ATF!

[@OlderSpud]

Wouldn't it be nice to reproduce copies of these but in appropriate caliber and on US soil?

[@infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295]

@@OlderSpud It would make a nice little .380

[@ilililimuplilili7243]

I wish I could have the psm

[@danmorgan3685]

It's good to see the PSM's alleged armor piercing capability actually confirmed. It's certainly interesting and I would be surprised to find out the Russians worked on the concept of a subcompact pistol with good armor penetration.

[@sawyerlawrence5033]

It's not confirmed, I believe in similar conditions a 9mm at 1100 FPS would have penetrated the vest. Kevlar needs a soft backer like a body to work.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

So, what use is that "level 3" vest then?

[@Reactordrone]

It stops 9mm Makarov.

[@wierdalien1]

Barack Smith it stops fragmentation

[@DamianMaisano]

Level IIIa, the type used in this video, stops slow pistol rounds (9mm, 45 acp, 40 s&w) and especially fragmentation from explosives. The test criteria is stopping a hollow point .44 mag.

[@StAlchemyst]

I'm going to bet that the vest is fairly old in this video. After awhile Kevlar, and most synthetic fiber body armor, will degrade and weaken. Usually it takes years but I've owned a few identical vests over the last decade, one bought years later than the other, and once I got something better I decided to have some fun with the older ones. I think the oldest one was 7 years old and the newer one was about 3 years old. I shot both five times with 9 mm standard ball ammo. The 3 year old vest stopped all five rounds shot at it while the 10 year old vest only fully stopped 2 rounds! I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happened to this vest too.

[@ednopers1]

True it may be old. But I promise it would still stop all the rounds it was rare for. I've tested plenty of old expired vests before and they all still worked.

[@Mrgunsngear]

great info!

[@jurajokasa834]

I just got myself Zastava M57 tokarev :) its +1 round in magazine and plus some to the lenght of grip (for my large hands its better) and tokarev ammo is soooo powerful

[@thematthewbox]

Ian, I am confused by your results. A level 3a vest is rated to take a hit from a 10mm Auto or 44 mag, as well as the other rounds that levels I, IIa, and II protect against. Wikipedia cites the 5.45x18mm as having "performance superior to the .22 LR and .25 ACP (6.35×16mmSR Browning) rounds", but surely not superior to the 10mm Auto. Was the vest that you tested beyond its expiration date? Can you please help me understand what I'm missing here?

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

Listen kids, there are three things in life that kills; velocity(forward and reverse), mass(more and less) these two are always connected and cannot be disconnected. The third is mass+velocity. A good example would be your mother-in-law.

[@deanminns8466]

ba da boom :)

[@agrizic]

Mass x velocity

[@charleshunter2041]

@@agrizic Energy = Mass x Velocity x Velocity Increasing velocity is much more important because it is squared. Momentum=Mass x velocity

[@worldtraveler930]

And let's not forget Isaac Newton's Golden Rule of F=M×A

[@_ArsNova]

"Die CIA pig!" Well those are words I never thought I would hear uttered by Ian on FW, yet here we are lol.

[@rakufin]

The real question is if you can take down a pseudo-dog with it?

[@ThePandoraGuy]

No. But you can shoot Flesh with it. Flesh are cowardly creatures.

[@ThePandoraGuy]

@733Rafael Neato.

[@PJ-he5zk]

Important question right here

[@luisloya1120]

The tokarev did the same damage plus it continued on and killed a family of coyotes 250 yards away.

[@kentonmiles]

22tcm reminds me of this 5.45x18 round

[@jankuhlmann2450]

Thank you for your work. You bring it to the point in every video you make what I find interesting in weapons. The technical aspects in context to the spirit of it's time, the description of it's own peculiarities which you will only get from the owner of those things I guess...short, you deliver the full view, almost I made the experience myself. And your natural, factual way helps a lot to enjoy your knowledge. May never ends the discover of forgotten weapons.

[@vthegoose]

When a slightly more powerful .22 penetrates a vest, I think a **7.62 Tokarev** will mess up the vest pretty well.

[@BuffaloWarrior7]

Surprised it penetrates lvl 3 so easily. Always thought it was pretty effective against most pistols especially something short barreled and pocket-able like that PSM.

[@mkultraification]

The point being that soft body armor is kind of crappy.

[@SuperAWaC]

it works fine against 90% of pistol calibers actually used in real life, and it's sure as shit better than your skin.

[@mkultraification]

+SuperAWaC yeah, but it doesn't make you impervious to nuclear missiles like some people seem to think. Misconceptions about body armor are the reason we can't get 7n6 ammo anymore, and the atf is trying to get rid of m855.

[@SuperAWaC]

i am pretty sure most of the anti-gun liberals are a bit more careful than they were in the 90s trying to brand everything a cop killer because it can pierce soft armor and their justifications for getting rid of "armor piercing" ammo is because it overpens so much and isn't "sporting"

[@mkultraification]

+SuperAWaC well, all I know is that 7n6 was reclassified as "armor piercing" ammunition because it went through level 3 vests in testing. At least that's the justification the ATF have.

[@SuperAWaC]

is there an ak round that doesn't pen l3 vests?

[@viddyo]

Thanks for sharing this. I was wondering about something that was pointed out abut the ballistics of this vs. .22 LR; if the reason this round penetrates armor is the bullet components, then by reason, wouldn't a .22LR penetrate body armor if it was made of the same or similer material?

[@jacobackley502]

Old comment, but the answer is yes. Virtually every caliber in existence can penetrate soft body armor with proper ammunition design.

[@percussion44]

My question is why the Russians/Soviets considered the tokarev and 7.62x25 "obsolete" when is seems better than 9mm Makarov in all respects. Is it just keeping up with the Jones, as NATO adopted 9mm?

[@nicolas8098]

Pistol in the soviet army mindset aren't made for combat , they are for status or a more honorful way of shooting yourself . After world war 2 they quicly adopted 7.62x39 that made SMGs obslete and were pretty much planning not to adopt any anymore . So they ended up with 7.62x25 pistol that are pretty much too powerful and cumbersome for what they will be use too + they needed to phase out TT pistol due to loads of issue of the pistol .By searching for a new pistol without the restriction of needing a powerful Cartridge for an SMG in the same caliber (because SMG need it contrary to pistols) they just went for a smaller lighter solution way more suited for the role of pistols : the PM in 9x18

[@s.evanhowie1416]

I guess I'll be the one to ask -- does it matter that the vest was shot backwards? (Inside-out)

[@sdivine13]

No, it wouldn't matter

[@chiphailstone589]

It would be very cool if Ian could evaluate a real 'assassin pistol', the 2 barreled ones the Soviets made, with the cartridge that contained the gasses and expelled the bullet silently. I think commander Eden Pastora was assinated with one back in the 80's.

[@OLEG-gt2yt]

silent pistol "Thunderstorm S 4 M" under the cartridge "Snake"

[@AshGreen359]

Now if only you had the steel tipped PSM rounds

[@zacht9447]

Bruh can you imagine if the russians thought the Colt woodsman was an assassination weapon ahahahahaha

[@Struggle-Snuggle]

Is that a Tokerev in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?

[@tommcgaw3070]

I really like your channel and I have liked everything I have watched from you. I am very impressed with your level of knowledge about firearms and their place in history. You have taught me quite a bit. Maybe someday, I might even get to meet you.

[@MrTruckerf]

Doubtful.

[@bloqk16]

Note the closeup slow-mo video footage, the pistol is being shot with a right-handed shooter, yet Ian is a lefty.

[@762gunr]

To be fair I see a significant penetration difference in 7.62X25 between my lead core Polish and the few Czech steel core rounds that I have.Fired from a CZ52.

[@762gunr]

Czech steel core is harder and faster so it works better.

[@Rake3577]

Ian may i suggest for guns like this and the Walther PP and the Makarov PM to use the "Cup and Saucer" grip instead of Thumbs forward because they dont have a dust cover ( because the recoil spring slides on the barrel ) and recoil is mild so using this antiquated technique is just fine for follow up shots

[@6luealreadydead]

2:25 I would have really liked it to see him use those steel-tipped bullets for the PSM that he was talking about in the video he made on the PSM, cuz it probably wouldn't have been a whole lot different when I would like to see how much better it would have been at penetrating is in the regular FMJ round🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️👍🏼👍🏼

[@eatpop123]

Die CIA Pig!!!!

[@midimusicforever]

In conclusion - Soft armor sucks.

[@Yawnymcsnore]

I think that little PSM looks cool as fuck

[@Mag-dn9bk]

Наш человек.

[@МатвейМалинин-щ4ф]

Для ношения-то самый смачъ.

[@XtremeConditions]

Well... But wait, how the hell can the PSM 7.62x25 penetrate with a normal lead core? I know it has a more "spitzer" style bullet, but it's still pretty slow. Hell, doesn't even the 5.7x28 struggle with Level 3A armor!? Someone has to explain this to me..

[@THELONESTARSTATE1776]

5.7×28mm🥇 7.62×25mm 🏆

[@charleswatson2088]

Splitting it into 2 parts in post? Steam summer sale hit you too huh?

[@kamata93]

I really like how he takes out the pistols from his pockets :D

[@jpenna1976]

They also made pretty interesting looking leather shoulder rig for this. I remember reading of PSM in some Finnish gun magazine years ago. Somehow I would like to have one, but this is considered a pocket pistol , which is legally difficult to get permit for.

[@RobertoDonatti]

So, if the Tokarev defeated the armor, then the old Mauser 96 would do it too? Hell, even a Borchardt could do it!

[@HayesTech]

And regardless of what time say about the KelTec pistols, I've had no issue with any of the ones I've shot or even owned.

[@youbob28]

American Body Armor: "Shit.....thanks for the shout out Ian......"

[@Indianarmslover]

very nice penetration video psm Vs 7.62×25 tokerav. I think s&b 7.62fmj ammunations is the most powerful tokerav ammo.

[@ironfelixfromkuban2580]

Russians created "super-PSM" pistol, based on Stechkin APS. Cartridge - 6.5x30, weight of bullet - 2-3 g, speed - to 780 mps. Also, in this case created 9x30 Grom - bullet 6.5 g, speed 600 mps, for Alexander Shevchenko's pistol, size and designe - big brother of SPS pistol, 20-round magazine, full-auto. Also, created 5.45x30, and 4.5x30 (not German 4.6x30), last cartridge have two variants, standart AP, and underwater, with flechette, for 4.5x30 created special pistol.

[@lowtdave]

I will always wish for modern development or the 7.62x25mm round and handgun. It's a beautiful invention and one I think could be made even better with modern machining. Something that doesnt cost a bajillion dollars like the new 7.5 bkrno or however it's spelled. I guess i should look at 7.62x25 vs 10mm vs 357 sig?

[@johndeere1951a]

That 5th round 7.62x25 was held back by the Velcro strap🤣 A major difference in those two calibers is the REPORT💥!!💥the 7.62x25 can be heard 2 valleys away!💥 Do not fire without head muffs😥. CZ 52 7.62x25 👍✌️🇺🇲

[@ΣΑΒΒΑΣΚΟΚΤΣΙΔΗΣ]

does it matter that the vest was the wrong way around???

[@peterv1318]

I don’t personally know but if you read the sticker it would say this side to body. So I am assuming yes it matters.

[@dj1NM3]

It does seem odd that the Soviet design team went to the trouble of designing bottlenecked cases, when it effectively only has the muzzle-energy of .22lr. Although, I imagine that this squarish/sharp-edged pistol would be even more unpleasant to shoot if it had more recoil. I'm guessing that the spitzer/pointed bullet design is what allowed those little bullets to push/slip between kevlar strands, rather than punching/shearing through like the .30 Mauser/TT30 rounds, which would explain the condition of the exit holes in the armour panel.

[@warrenkretzmeier7222]

Hello Steve. Which countries' TT-33 do you carry? Does Brownells have TT-33 parts? Again, thank you....

[@blueracer66]

Thanks for another great video, Gun Jesus!

[@Yeeoldman63]

Only if you had a clear ballistics human dummy with realistic body parts we could have seen a better view of how the penetration of the 5.45x18mm vs 7.62x25 Tokerv and which is better.

[@zerocool9774]

Well, actually civilian 5.45*18 ammo lacks of steel core, which should penetrate armour plates. Civilian ammo is just a soft plating and a lead core. Army grade smmo is designed to penetrate 45 layers of kevlar.

[@esquad5406]

Now let's go over this one more time. When you back the armor on something hard. The armor panel dose not work well. The panel has to flex to work right and the backer has to flex with it. Like if it was one some one. Not a chunk of plywood.

[@pavloSemenoFF]

I've been serving in Russian police in 90 s. One officer was shot dead with TT-33 and his BPJ didn't help him. It have had 40 layers of kevlar and titanic plate.

[@sixoaksfarm1556]

Cant imagine why the Russians didnt just neck down a Tok round to 5.45?? Imagine the velocities that coulda been achieved!

[@DzinkyDzink]

Imagine a hardended pointed bullet for 7.62x25 and modern payload! The Russians already have their PDW Anti-Armro rounds!

[@Britva83]

Ian, I dont understand the comparison. Why didn't you compare it with the .22LR instead, or a .32ACP, or even a .380?

[@dorrieb154]

5 cia agents watching well its a gun they go bang bang

[@harryguy76]

Really for what it is the PSM is a great little gun...and I think performs exactly as they intended...twice the penetrating power of a .22lr in a .22lr package...sure they could have upped velocity but then would have to beef up the gun to handle that extra power...plus make the gun flippy and harder to keep on target...increase size and weight...and who here does not want a .22lr that is center fire with FMJ bullets...giving us the ability to reload our .22 ...play with bullet weight and design...Best of all no more .22lr shortages..

[@roempoetliar7995]

why i feels like watching demoranch with less explosion?