Former Christian Reveals Her REAL Problem With GOD

In this video, Frank Turek answers Bible questions from a former Christian. But in the end, something deeper comes to light.
Here is a link to Frank's KZbin Channel where the original media comes from: @CrossExamined​

[@HulkRampage]

Considering her argument, we can completely forget and abandon all written historical records, as they "might just be inventions" after all.

[@edwebber679]

That wasn't her argument. Her argument as well as many skeptics and even historians is that you can't use biased sources, especially one source, to confirm itself. For example writing that there were witnesses to an event, is not the same as witnesses writing their own accounts, which is why the bible stating that there were 500 witnesses to the resurrected Jesus isn't impressive. It's like going to court, the cross examiner asks you "Did you witness the murder?" You say, "No, but there were a dozen people who saw it and I spoke with all of them." Prosecutor asks, "Did you get their information or invite them here to give testimony?" and he says, "No, but take my word for it, they were there!" A jury and a judge wouldn't consider that very convincing. Historians looking at events, places, times, etc...use multiple sources, especially independent or even rival sources to confirm things. In the case of the bible, you have nothing written about Jesus during his life and then finally 3-4 decades later, supposedly interview some witnesses and we are just supposed to believe it. I'm sorry, but that's not compelling to me any more than someone telling me that Mohammed split the moon in two and the crater impacts are proof, as well as the eye witness testimonies of people living at the time. Those are clearly emotionally invested biased sources and you will need more than just claims to prove that the moon was split and then reformed.

[@Raeodor]

There is actual evidence of most historical events. There is almost none other than testimonials for the bible. its seems convenient. You can prove people in the past existed based on documentation, and archaeological evidence, but nothing other than words for people being healed, resurrected. The point is, there is no proof other than "I believe".

[@IramCoercere]

@@edwebber679Almost all scholars of antiquity agree that jesus existed. You just don’t want it to be true

[@rynomacamillion]

She doesn’t care about the truth, she only cares about her opinion.

[@HulkRampage]

@@edwebber679 What you presented to me seems to be coherent and is called constructivism. We should always value the greatest variety of witnesses and possible evidence. But I am specifically referring to the phrase (which I have used when I was an atheist): "What if the Bible is just an invented story?" Apart from that, I agree with everything else.

[@MrsJAFuentes1038]

I had the exact same mindset and attitude towards God and the bible as that woman. I'm 55 now and at different phases of my life, I've been a believer twice, a New Age atheist once, and an ignorant sinner once, and being a mature believer today who studies and trusts the Bible, I'm finally at a place of peace and healing.

[@kingdaughteryffe9429]

Hey! So happy to have you as a eternal sister and can’t wait to meet you when we’re with our LORD 🫶🏼🙏🏻❤️see you in the clouds ☁️🕊😘

[@Eclectic.Nostalgia]

God bless...happy for you

[@malletandchisel5154]

I understand. I was an avowed Atheist until I heard and responded to the Gospel at 37 years old. I also have found Joy and healing that I could n ot have imagined in my previous life. Blessings sister.

[@johnlopez5777]

You mean you are the women in the video ??? 😮

[@thebluraycollector1327]

God bless you! So happy that you found peace. 😌

[@mfrshm1998]

I was at a gas station where a man being chased by cops took a hostage outside at the gas pump. In the end, the suspect didn't make it out alive. Before the officers started taking statements from witnesses (about 20 people) I could hear different witnesses talking about different details that they noticed. Some people focused on other details that others didn't notice. Even though the details varied from person to person, the incident definitely happened.

[@stevenbatke2475]

That’s fair. But I bet 2 of those witnesses didn’t need to copy around 80% of one witness’s report, word for word, some 40-50 years later, did they?

[@tstjohn777]

Exactly and is what this woman doesn't get. Then her next issue or excuse was miracles. She is in a contiuace search to not believe. I believe she was hurt deeply in the church, or God didn't answer a prayer for something she really wanted

[@mfrshm1998]

@@stevenbatke2475 The vast majority of what I heard was similar but yes some people noticed different details than others. So 50 years from now people may want to dispute our statements because there were too many similarities. Or maybe they'll dispute them because there wasn't enough.

[@JP-ec9rl]

​​@@stevenbatke2475the difference between Matthew Mark and Luke is the difference between the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of God. They're not the same and it's with intent. John is another subject in and of itself. It contains the account but also the gospel and some doctrine. Jesus knew all along that Israel would reject him but still had to offer them the promised covenant. When John the Baptist was condemned, Jesus switch from preaching the kingdom of heaven to preaching the kingdom of God. In all the parables in Mathew, a person can run out of the Holy Spirit and in Matthew, they have to work to be saved. In Mark Luke and John, those conditions don't exist. They aren't simply similar accounts, they're subtle differences in modifications to a three and a half year ministry to different cities and different cultures and separate covenants.

[@mimifinesse1845]

I see your point.

[@annagray6491]

Doubting Thomas comes to mind. We all has doubts at times but you have to keep your faith. The Lord is always there to guide us.

[@DavidHarvey-po9le]

We all "has" (have) to deal with zealots. What is your lord guiding you to?

[@crushedforme]

That is so true!! I have been convinced recently that this is the big problem that keeps people rejecting God. That God is not good. I'm convinced that this is what people need to see and what will open their eyes. Yes! If the Gospel is true, then God is good! I love that you prayed for Rachel. God bless you brother!

[@Atheist100]

God is a killler in the OT not the NT. Jesus attempted to soften the old man up a bit. YHWH killed offer 2 million in the book. El was the supreme god of the Canaanites. As head god, El was married to Ashera, and he was the father of Baal, Anat, Yahweh, and Yam. YHWH was often seen in the form of a bull, and he was sometimes also referred to as Shor-El, the bull god. Yahweh is described as one of the sons of El in Deuteronomy 32:8-9, but this was removed by a later emendation to the text. Still exists on older texts. The Bible Says So! ----------------- 1 Samuel 15:1-35 ESV And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” So Saul summoned the people and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand men on foot, and ten thousand men of Judah. And Saul came to the city of Amalek and lay in wait in the valley. 2 Kings 15:16 At that time Menahem sacked Tiphsah and all who were in it and its territory from Tirzah on, because they did not open it to him. Therefore he sacked it, and he ripped open all the women in it who were pregnant. Psalm 137:9 ESV Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock! Leviticus 20:27 ESV “A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.” =============== YHWH is a bloodbath deity.

[@graemerose1616]

People have not been convinced of any god, of thusands. If the Abrahamic Gods were real (ihe Jews had two Gods) and the bible was proven facts, many would and have walked away from it. Many say that if God was real and the bible was fact, that god is not worthy of their time, a mass murdering / killing / genocidal racist and narcissist. Where as in the same bible, the devil tends to be against god and his actions. What sounds better god, the devil or not accepting religion as true / not being religious due to lack of testable proof?

[@leor8588]

There is no god. Sorry. If there is, he is a sadistic monster that enjoys watching people suffer and die.

[@RepentandtrustinChrist-sd8wl]

I know Jesus is who He said He was because I called on Jesus in my great distress and something supernatural happened to me. I was filled with the Holy Spirit and it changed the man that I am forever. I literally felt suicide and depression lift off me in that moment, God replaced those things with the greatest love, peace, forgiveness I have ever felt in my life. Never had I felt so free and loved. I am so grateful. I will follow you forever Jesus!!! Thank you LORD!!!!

[@Sherlock245]

I know jesus exist cause that what He said in his Word.😊

[@ndjibukabengele973]

You and I can conclude that this lady was never a Christian because you can’t encounter Jesus Christ and revert, impossible. Only God knows those who accept HIM in their hearts for real not those who proclaim themselves Christians when their hearts are far from God.

[@Zapdos97]

I felt nothing. Must be nice

[@DaniKa1419]

​@@ndjibukabengele973 perfectly said 👏

[@bornagainspirit]

Hallelujah.

[@yvonnehemlick9504]

I have never doubted in all my 75 years on this earth even with the two degrees I earned from a secular college, my Lord and Savior. Not one doubt!!

[@ramaraksha01]

Ancient people living under Kings, Dictators used them as a template for God Hence all the - Get down on our knees, beg, grovel, blindly obey, sing only his praises etc

[@DavidHarvey-po9le]

If you have no doubt then your pretend degrees are worthless!

[@claireglory]

as a native pacific islander. i hate all religion. all religion are the same. except for buddhism maybe. you all grow by forcing people to believe in your god. or die. if christianity and islam did not force people, your religion would have been extinct long ago. just like how the ancient religions in the past. a long time ago people believe in zeus, odin, rah, and many more gods. and no one can say it is false.

[@MrBkizzle]

Amen brother. You hit it on the nail. Seeing God through that negative lens is what keeps people in their own bondage. I know God will deliver them! Let's go Jesus!

[@Bob.55]

What bondage? You have it backwards son and I was a Christian pretend land bondage for over 50 years.

[@DavidHarvey-po9le]

Having a negative or positive " lens" does not affect the outcome - do you think you're god and can affect the outcome - blasphemy.

[@MrBkizzle]

@@DavidHarvey-po9le no but it affects how you see. Which will affect what you think which then affects what you do.

[@bluecheckmiya]

I love the “I don’t believe in miracles” argument because the existence of life itself is a miracle.

[@zkring]

Incorrect. Improbable sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s a miracle. The chances of hitting the Powerball are very small. If somebody wins we do no think it to be a miracle.

[@pureruckuspower2165]

@zkring I bet the person who won said PowerBall thinks it's a miracle.

[@zkring]

@@pureruckuspower2165 probably. That person probably would not understand statistics and math in general very well

[@pureruckuspower2165]

@zkring because a 1 in a 20 million chance isn't miraculous. I bet your fun at parties.

[@zkring]

@@pureruckuspower2165 correct. Not a miracle. Just like if my aunt got struck by lightning and died. It wouldn’t be a miracle, but rather a very unlucky and unfortunate event.

[@emonotilla]

“blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” - John 20:29

[@10000Rays]

Amen.

[@anthonyeliseusboyles9859]

Yep 2029

[@tommysuriel]

Why is that blessing though?

[@Yo-broski]

@@tommysuriel because it hard to think something is real without physical evidence and you believing in him is a blessing because if you believe in him in his word even tho u havent seen god ,you will inherit the kingdom of god after death

[@asdfgh-uh6cy]

"Blessed are those who are gullible and swallow our lies without any doubt or question in mind." - John 20:30

[@Brucemcleod2345]

I love these videos. So encouraging to see the gospel presented logically

[@ronaldross6950]

I so agree with you about that. This Pastor is mind blowing to me. I am listening to many of his messages to skeptics. So, if you don't mind me saying that you should check out Allen Nolan. He has so, many videos on the bible, that it will blow your mind. All I ask, is to check it out. Find out for yourself. GOD bless you and Amen.

[@MontviewBlvdBabiez]

Christianity is a mental illness

[@user-de3vr7cj7o]

I always like Frank and his work

[@miampoy]

My siblings and I are now all adults. We’ve witnessed our parents separation but what’s most amazing is that we all have different accounts of how it went down. Same story, different storylines. 😅

[@its_whatever_dani_d863]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@przemeksledziewski1973]

During the separation if an earthquake happened, giant stones were overturned, angels appeared and the dead rose out of their graves would all of you remember those things and talk about at least one of these occurrences? Or only one of you would remember and care to tell others about it?

[@ashleygrant3131]

Very well said!❤

[@zkring]

Divorces are not miracles. They happen every day!

[@sreed7637]

@@zkringI’m thinking you missed the point on that, the children all had different accounts of what happened-> but it DID still happened, just as Jesus was resurrected.

[@thisisshari]

I watched this video the night before last and at the end I imagined you were praying for me too. I grew up Christian but have gone back and forth with doubts. The word that stuck out to me was “undeniable”. I wanted to see God in that way too. So yesterday, I was getting off an emotional FaceTime call where I got bad news about a family member and I was walking my dog and I was crying. I was trying to hide it but I couldn’t help it and I was especially upset because I felt really alone in that moment. I’ve felt alone a lot lately. Anyway, a man was parked on the street on the opposite side and said “excuse me! Can I give you something?” And my immediate response was no that’s ok thank you but he insisted and hurriedly walked toward me and handed me a church flier for a church nearby and told me that no matter what I’m going through that God loves me and will never leave me and I will get through what I’m going through. And he mentioned Jesus also and I felt like that was God showing himself to me and letting me know that he is with me. I’m happy I stumbled across this channel.

[@johnnylongshlong3677]

Love this. Sorry you've felt lonely.

[@johnnylongshlong3677]

@divinelightshine - terrible analogies and very poor understanding about the reasons for questioning Christianity.

[@nombrequedeseo]

I’m atheist, but if believing in a god does provide you with the emotional support you need to face any current challenge you’re going through, go ahead! The most important is not being right or wrong about any religion, but being honest with ourselves and accept our fragility as a mean to get stronger and keep going. If the answer is not a religious one, look for social or professional support.😊 Good vibes!

[@hosannayeshua4446]

@@nombrequedeseo Your view that it is most important to not be right or wrong about any religion is based on your own presupposition that no religion is true and they were all started by men and they are all just nice stories. As a former devout atheist i can say, choose Jesus Christ, He is the truth, the way and the life. He brought me out of the nihilistic atheism, which brings nothing to the table. It is most important to know which faith is the correct one, because someone or something started ALL of this.

[@nombrequedeseo]

@@hosannayeshua4446 Thanks for the kind invitation, but I’m great being atheist. Wish you a wonderful life!

[@jenreckard6431]

When you made the point of the "lens" has gotten smeared and most people think of God or Jesus is not good, was brilliant. I have been a Christian for over 40 years of my life and I still struggle with the goodness of God. I appreciate you insights and this is something I need to take to God and the Scriptures. I loved how you prayed for this woman at the end. xoxo

[@sellisell7]

I love how there is no bashing of the woman. And the vulnerability to admit that we can relate to her in her questioning.

[@ramaraksha01]

Ancient people living under Kings, Dictators used them as a template for God Hence all the - Get down on our knees, beg, grovel, blindly obey(kill my OWN son? Yes, Master), sing only his praises etc Sad that Master - Slave religions dominate the globe in the 21st century

[@jasonfritz838]

She didn't come there to learn. She came to lecture and play 'gotcha'. Felt sorry for her.

[@kathleenfield7148]

Be careful being the judge of that. The biggest skeptics have become radically saved. Including myself

[@MrHow2fail]

You are the first Christian-response KZbinr that actually contributes to videos like these and I appreciate you for it. God Bless!

[@standbyevidence1]

The Cross or Man with sadistic hanging on cross was the symbol of curses so don't use the symbol anymore... blasphemy Similar insults the majesty of almighty God,that is big Sin...

[@rickrick974]

No sir pastor elder Murray

[@josephodoherty7864]

@@standbyevidence1The Statue of Liberty holds a torch as😆 propaganda to burn witches🤣😂. Utterly crap/BS , nonsense of the worst kind. The desperate sectarian lies people will make up are astonishing.

[@penguinusrex]

@standbyevidence1 Jesus did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but He became a servant, and became a curse for us so that we would be saved from the curse of the law. The Man on the cross is the opposite of blasphemy. May I always remember God's grace through Jesus' sacrifice.

[@morningstar8651]

God ultimately reveals himself to you through faith. You don’t need proof lady. Faith reveals the truth to your heart. May the Lord bless her and open her heart. You don’t need eyes to see.

[@MichaelManning1]

I really appreciate that you took the time to pray for her.

[@arnie9564]

I don’t think the issue is that people struggle with God being good. The issue is people want to be God. They don’t want accountability. They want to choose to live according to whatever they feel and want In that moment

[@salty-tomato]

Satan has but one law Thine own will be done

[@jesse75]

Just explained the attitude of a democrat.

[@jaulj8]

It's foolish 4 people to think that because you are god rules don't apply to me. That is one of the reasons god revealed himself as the Son. The one who is obedient even to the point of death. He didnt say because I am God the rules of men do not apply to me. Philippians 2:5-8 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. That is why God does not speak the way we men speak because he knows if he says something it becomes law. That is also why Jesus said, "Every idle word will be brought into the judgement. By your words will you be justified and by your words will you be condemned." Every word you judge by you will be measured by it to see whether you also followed what you said. So the lesson here is to be slow to speak and quick to listen and observe. God gave us two ears, two eyes and one mouth. May the Lord Jesus be gracious to us and mouths.

[@Charlotte_Martel]

This is such a stupid idea. Sorry, but are you seriously claiming that secretly atheists know that there is a god but deny his existence because they want to party all of the time and not "be accountable"? But if they believe that there is a god, they must know that eventually they will be accountable, right? Not to mention the fact that far more Christians choose to live lawless lives than atheists as assessed by prison intake forms.

[@thebrothahood101]

@@Charlotte_Marteli think he means that a huge percentage of the world population wants to do whatever they olease without consequences deep down in there heart. I truly can dee that cuz I once felt that in my heart years ago but I let my, pride, selfishness and ignorance go. Some people won’t admit to wanting to be in control of everything and to be able to do whatever they want. So yes I think there are a lot of atheists out there somewhere who might feel that way but won’t say it and just go with what makes sense scientifically. Not speaking for All atheists or anything.

[@juliusspartacus5437]

This man is in tune with the Holy Spirit. He's too good at debating atheists and skeptics not to be. Truly powerful. 🙏

[@alejandrojimenez4930]

This is true Christians at their best, “this man is too good to be debating other people that don’t believe in the same as you” judgment at its best!

[@lightningrt434]

He’s arrogant and melodramatic.

[@victorfernandes83]

No. He’s just smart at selling his books

[@Muzicboy3]

@@lightningrt434why do you feel as though he’s arrogant?

[@jonpeterman6115]

@@alejandrojimenez4930 is judging wrong? If so why did you judge?

[@jtlast9600]

Thank you for praying at the end

[@drakke125Channel]

Skepticism is healthy in a way and God wants us to ask questions to gain better understanding instead of blindly following.

[@ramaraksha01]

Ancient people living under Kings, Dictators used them as a template for God Hence all the - Get down on our knees, beg, grovel, blindly obey, sing only his praises etc In today's world that would be like living in Russia or North Korea Those who believe and support these Dictators are rewarded with the good life and the rest suffer in the 21st century - the top Gods are Putin, Kim Jong Un Not much skepticism there - but lots and lots of blind following

[@megantoronga451]

May God touch her heart and reveal Himself, the Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit to her! Amen.

[@thatgirlchina5890]

🙏 Amen

[@Sherlock245]

GOD WONT TOUCH HER IF SHE KEEP REFUSING THE EVIDENCE.

[@rmartin70]

@@Sherlock245 What evidence?

[@cabhisek6308]

Man, how can we be loving and compassionate to people who hate God and reject Christ with a passion? As a Christian who loves the Lord with everything, it is disheartening to encounter these people constantly with their anti-Christ agendas and unbeliefs. How am I supposed to love someone who hates God, whom I love more than myself? It fills my heart with rage. Sometimes I think, Can't we abandon them to their snares of sin?

[@user-po4jl4yi1p]

@@cabhisek6308When Christ and the apostles were rejected they dusted off their shoes and moved on too another people.

[@michaelmartinez407]

"But you're looking at it through your Christian lens," as her entire argument is viewed through an Atheist lens.

[@baphometos]

Religious people are illogical

[@saxmanjpr5092]

OR her view is through an agnostic lens. Meaning that she does not know if there is a God or not. Be careful there Michael.

[@watulukamedia6724]

Her argument is not viewed from an atheist view, it’s viewed from someone with reason not faith, the world will be a better place if we all did that and allowed ourselves to have these conversations.

[@genevawilkerson4245]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mr.s9783]

@@watulukamedia6724Reason typically leads one to faith. I’m tired of the bogus claim that only unreasonable people can believe in a God. Pick a better argument.

[@Zak_Nike]

Her answer to ' wouldn't that be wonderful?' Totally astounded me.😢

[@gillgirl19]

I absolutely love your analysis at the end and relate to it so strongly. It took God a while and a winding path to help me unlearn the parts of Christianity I’d distorted that made me distrust God and therefore want to be free of him. So thankful for his patience and apologetics that brought me round eventually and how he’s teaching me who he truly is. Between apologetics and The Chosen he’s landed my mind and heart in a whole new way! Loving your channel. Keep up the God work in His name!

[@vanessab2726]

Jesus changed me ❤ That’s the biggest miracle I have personally experienced!

[@25ayda]

Amen to that word you said ❤I for one upon knowing in my own ups and down trials in my life , I come to finally conclude that Jesus is a miracle worker ,loving ,caring and merciful God .His words are true and the words Jesus taught me gives me encouragement ,trust and hope ,that every Christian brothers and sisters who experience the joy ,hope Jesus Christ offers can be felt within our reach through his Spirit ,through Him alone .Praise God He lives ,He never failed us nor leave us orphaned inspite of repeated sins that we have done , Jesus remains faithful and true to us all believers that entrusted our belief , and faith in him .Praise God Jesus for eternity . I would love to meet our Savior to honor and worship forever when the appropriate time for his second coming to finish his works for all the saints of God 🙏❤️🌹

[@vanessab2726]

@@25ayda Yes! Amen 🙏 It’s going to be absolutely glorious to meet our risen Lord ❤️

[@texascop]

Same to me, 🙏

[@deanprobe1885]

I think it was the devil

[@trishahyde9497]

Hallelujah!!!

[@chrisbessey358]

I love that you not only saw yourself in her, but went a step beyond and prayed for her. This is how we love our enemies. This is how we show Christ’s love to the world.

[@johnnylongshlong3677]

She's not an enemy, having a different opinion does not make you an enemy. Faith that can't be questioned or tested is not faith at all, it's blind obedience.

[@Humanity101-zp4sq]

This is how we delude ourselves...

[@WhoStoleMyAlias]

I guess that comment goes to show how the God of Abraham was able to draw a river of blood throughout history.

[@WhoStoleMyAlias]

@longertune That wasn't the argument.

[@chrisbessey358]

@@WhoStoleMyAlias Elaborate.

[@hectorvenegas9566]

People never give context for their questions, people just ask questions

[@najhajones]

I love that you prayed for Rachel ❤ Amen!

[@blanktrigger8863]

She's an example of someone pretending to want logic and evidence but then rejecting it when anyone reveals she's wrong. The goalposts are constantly shifting. The best example is when she said "current science" - but if the current science looks pro-atheist she accepts it without question. Once you notice how much of atheist arguments is them pretending to care about what is and isn't true, and you take it seriously, you hear nothing but shame tactics whenever they speak. And then you disregard them because abuse proves nothing about what is and isn't true.

[@goldenpersonwhoexists8834]

Even though this obviously can go both ways, I've seen this a lot on the atheist side. One of the most common arguments you'll see the layman atheist use is "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" without being able to define extraordinary evidence. A common analogy they use is "If you say you have a dog, I can believe you, but if you say you have a dragon, I'm going to need more evidence than just your word." This makes word-of-mouth ordinary evidence, okay, but what would you need to prove a dragon exists? Probably video evidence of you interacting with the dragon, having the video analyzed to see if any CGI or any other model generated medium was used, and/or cutting off a piece of the dragon and flying it to the skeptic. How is any of that extraordinary though? What's the criteria for evidence being extraordinary? For it to have any relevance, it would have to be something that can't fluctuate from person to person, so it couldn't be, for example, acquirement difficulty. For an argument so widespread, its pretty flawed for people apparently just looking for logic/rationality.

[@Rafael-zl7fh]

I wish Atheist peoples would get smarter. There have been Atheists for thousands of years ever since pantheist, polytheist, human sacrifice cult religions have existed. Atheist were always people who did not believe in the gods, because they obviously discerned they were all falsehoods, BIG LIES! Causing much harm, but little hope. Then when the Truths are revealed by Buddha, Mahavira, Christos, the cultist pagans turned their movements into religions, with false gods. Thereby turning the Atheists against any hope of accepting higher truths. You see all the gods, dyaus, dioses, devas, appear at some point in human history. But YAHUWAH-Elyon is from the beginning, way before our universe, space, stars, time, planets, earth, humans, or any gods. All the gods are eating dust and very dead. But YAHUWAH-ELYON is eternity, way before and beyond the end of time.

[@Spiinellii]

exactly, she didnt even know resisting the holy spirit was possible when its literally biblical (Esphesians, Acts and dont get me started on Matthew) a ruthless debater wouldve decimated her points. sometimes if you’re too kind with responses they dont learn anything

[@standbyevidence1]

The Cross bar or hanging on cross the symbol of curses so don't use the symbol anymore... blasphemy Similar insults the majesty of almighty God bigger Sin...

[@jasonhoseney3313]

Sounds like people commenting need to do some research on the Bible. She could have added passages clearly written centuries after the original such as the various endings of Mark or the casting stone story found in John 7:53

[@growmethemoney5480]

It's incredible how people fight so hard not to believe.

[@punchline43]

lt's not that. it's just that things like logic and intelligence keep getting in the way.

[@danieldancer4065]

​@@punchline43 pharisee mindset they got

[@florencealvarez6451]

I find it harder to believe that God doesn't exist when I see what God has done in the world and in my life .

[@Positivewaiter]

It's not really that hard. You wake up one day and start asking questions. Then when people either don't give you a satisfactory answer to said question or worse get mad you even asked at all. It's actually pretty natural that when something doesn't make sense to people, they become more and more skeptical. It takes no effort and I know, I went to church up till the age of 17. By then I already had questions and well got no solid answers. Am I supposed to just accept something I don't have solid answers or understanding of? No. So I try to get more understanding only to come up with answers. Most people who don't believe in God or are skeptical. Usually comes from an attempt to understand and in all actuality a fight to believe and just not being able to

[@cathd5675]

⁠@@florencealvarez6451everything we learn in our conception of knowledge and reality is literally what god is because he is the reason for everything existing a thought or emotion can’t exist without god to create it. The problem with religion is the concept of god was thought and practiced before concept of religion with nature god through the earliest of our knowledge was considered in a totally different regard and is continually because of how reality works.

[@DavidSaupe-tm4cf]

God healed my bad back, but I believed before then.

[@AustinYakubu-fc3ib]

You are right there woman, correct interpretation and understanding of the Bible must and will always be with the Christian lens and Christian eye.

[@Ai-dw9xu]

You don’t need Christian eyes to look within

[@vickih5405]

that poor lady is so bitter and angry, she needs serious heart healing. ♥

[@arielllerena8355]

You don't know that, she just has some pretty reasonable questions

[@vickih5405]

@@arielllerena8355 its not her questions at all, they are fine. Just her countenance.

[@alfredoreliford3329]

Lost…⚔️🙏🏽⚔️

[@maxterlogistics6056]

yes you can feel she's not sincere in seeking for answers. she is just downright mad with God. something must have happen to her.

[@pamelarogers8897]

I am a very devoted Christian and I actually like Rachel. I appreciate that she was not vindictive or condescending. She asked some good questions and listened to the answers. Prayers for Rachel 🙏

[@anthonylogiudice9215]

She was a good questioner.

[@cameronadair5422]

Prayer doesn't work. Not least for the fact that there is nobody listening.

[@ronaldross6950]

I have to say wow, she did ask very good questions and a little confrontational. But like you said it was good. Now, I will ask you, like a devoted Christian. Are we not true, to what GOD says? I have started to listen to Dr. Frank Turek for that passed several days and I like his teaching. But I hope you don't mind me telling you about another pastor who is just as good. His name is Allen Nolan of Cornerstone Chruch. Please check out his videos, and you will be amaze. I don't make promises, but this I do promise you. GOD bless you.

[@googlespynetwork]

Yes she was condescending. 😂 And really vague in her non argument.

[@misstramaine1981]

@@googlespynetwork I agree. She was very condescending and a bit snarky, nevertheless, I'll pray for her. Pray she finds the truth in Jesus.

[@monamarie1984]

10:18 - I recently came to Christ. I couldn't ignore Him anymore. I spent 20 years running from Him and He spent 20 years trying to call me back. He never gave up on me. 😭😭😭😭🙏🏽💜 During that time, I struggled with the concept of hell as well. I thought, how could a loving God send good people to hell just because they didn't want to worship him? That seems narcissistic! I thought like that for years!!! It was because I was so far from God and the enemy was telling me lies and I was believing them. After I gave my life back to Christ, it was like blinders were taken off my eyes. I felt so convicted of who I was when I wasn't serving God. But everything was clear. God used his word to build my faith again. The longer you stay away from the word of God, the longer you stay away from prayer- the easier it is to believe the lies of the enemy. The night I decided to throw out all my worldly things and really dedicate my life to Christ, I was praying and I felt FEAR! It was a spiritual battle and I knew it. Even now, I'll get thoughts in my head saying, "you don't want to be Christian, you have to go to church every Sunday and you can't do anything fun." And "this stuff isn't true." I rebuke the enemy and tell him to leave me alone! It's a constant battle but I know what God did in my life. I had depression and now, no matter what happens in my life (I recently got really sick and was in the hospital), I have so much peace and comfort. It's truly amazing knowing Jesus. 🙏🏽💜 I'm praying this woman gives her life back to Christ.

[@danielleadamson9762]

I love this channel! Definitely a lot of wisdom being shared and really helpful to learn how to explain our faith

[@stephenallen2074]

Jesus actually spoke to me one night. I was 57, never followed the bible, when suddenly a strange series of events occurred which culminated in my being chosen. One night as i lay in bed calling out "Lord please forgive me of my sins. Lord, please forgive my family members of their sins, please soften their hearts. Lord please..." Suddenly, in the darkness, a voice said.." Why do you not call me by My name?" In an instant i said: Please forgive me Lord Jesus. I have never been the same since

[@morganashleywhite]

I love this testimony. Thank you for sharing 🥹❤️ God bless!!

[@nyaukpong9782]

Pretty sure it was a dream. How do people believe these voices in their heads as Jesus or God? What do you have to say about people who say Mohammed or Vishnu spoke to them? Would you doubt them? I hope you don’t!

[@hosannayeshua4446]

@@nyaukpong9782 how do you know it was a voice in their head? Are you biased in your logic and excluding God out of the equation?

[@stephenallen2074]

I can assure you of this. I was not dreaming. I was wide awake, God interjected as i was praying. He asked me a question in direct relation to my praying..."Why do you not call me by my name?". He definitely spoke to me. You may think what you like. You clearly dont believe in the power of the Lord

[@shastrimaharak1882]

Lol,dude?were you high?u heard him?and how you sure it wasn't a dream?or sleep hallucination?get real buddy

[@fineartbymattphilleo]

When you started praying for this woman, Rachel, instant pause. Tears in my eyes. Subscribed. I’ve never heard another KZbinr stop and pray for someone that they were commenting on. Refreshingly real.

[@Tore1972Wisdom]

You make great videos. Love to hear the debate and also your point of view.

[@missyly83]

I love that you prayed for Rachel.

[@TheLindadunn]

My respects to him for trying to help her out despite her negativity.

[@leeannerae7708]

I love that you prayed for her right in your video. That was amazing and gave me such great perspective and understanding of my friends who are struggling with the idea of God because of their bias that God is bad or does mean things or doesn’t prevent bad things. Thank God He’s in control and knows the bigger picture. May all of our friends come to know the love of God. ❤

[@TheGeenat]

Can you get me to understand what the purpose of praying is? I don’t get it.

[@MD-gw4rk]

@@PullThePluGz Well that's quite sad to say that. Because I know from personal experience that my prayers have been answered by the Highest Power of God.. I'm sorry you think that praying "talking" to God is nothing. But, it's not. It's quite sad that people believe in creepy demons and conjure up bad things and watch that on television and actually believe in that. Take the movie "Exorcist" do you know HOW many people actually believe that a Catholic priest performed that on a real person.?? And yet they shun people who pray for guidance and understanding to God of mankind! They watched things like that on television and movies and actually believe that it's true. Lololol 😂 even though it's faked

[@DZeroXMax]

​@@TheGeenat The purpose of praying is to get closer to God. It is a like a direct line of communication to Him that allows you to build a relationship with Him. This line of communication opens only if you believe and have faith in Him. He will speak to your spirit when you are praying. God will answer your prayers according to His will. Being infinite and having wisdom that surpasses all human understanding, He may not always give us what we want because He knows better but we can rest knowing that everything He does is good. Sometimes, God will be moved by the prayers of a righteous person and may intervene on certain situations (if it is His will) but even sinners can cry out to God in repentance and God being so merciful and loving can intercede and save them.

[@ronniebattle1310]

Encounter Ministries KZbin channel. Mark Hemans//

[@YouLikeThat14]

​@@TheGeenatto make it simple, prayer and reading my Bible is the way I communicate with God. Prayer is me talking to Him. And reading the Bible is Him talking to me. It's building a relationship with our Father who is in heaven. If you believe in God as the creator of the universe, then you definitely should believe He can communicate with us. And wants to communicate with us. Talk to Him like a Father you're just meeting. Cause He'd love to get to know you.

[@kenfaulds8818]

Great summary highlighting the salient points.👍

[@n4bb12]

From "they are contradictions" to "could just be a story" to "there is no evidence" to "the miracles make it unbelievable". She made up her mind.

[@sherecebennett9349]

I like that he asked her "if the Bible is true, wouldn't that be the greatest thing." I think many people focus on the wrong things about the Bible. Focus on the gospel message. It literally sets you free. This is what any person would want to accept, but a prideful mind can't.

[@nyaukpong9782]

The Bible is not true. It was written by humans. Flawed humans who ironically want to teach us about god. The Bible has slavery, murder, violence, racism, sexual immorality and anger all over it. How can such a terrible book teach you about a God?,

[@simonslater9024]

Please read my comment. God bless.

[@joeblack8915]

You could say that about a lot of fairy stories - but at least fairy stories don't purport to be true, unlike the disingenuous bullshit known as religion.

[@sherecebennett9349]

@@joeblack8915 I know right....lol...Thankfully the Bible isn't a fairy story, nor is it a religion. It's facts.

[@heavensea141]

That exactly what selfproclaimed Christians who deny OSAS and call Jesus a liar. Self righteusness lordshipper who deny Imputet righteusness by faith alone only way to heaven. Ironic being born-again agian its atheist's reasons for don't believe ' Still convicted its truth.

[@Romans-nk4wt]

The Word is ALIVE! Once when I was young I felt completely abandoned by God. I started panicking and said "God, you've forgotten me!" I grabbed my Bible and randomly opened it right to a passage in Isaiah," But Zion said, 'The Lord has forgotten me. My God has forsaken me.' Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the baby she has borne? Though she may forget I will not forget you. See? I have engraved you on the palms of my hands."

[@user-dy4ik3bs9d]

Beautiful....God has done that to me many times Makes u realise how big God is

[@The_Philmmaker]

😹😹😹😹

[@The_Philmmaker]

@@user-dy4ik3bs9d😂😂😂

[@bdarnell98]

You’re really gifted, man. Keep making content.

[@angelialeah8780]

What you said at the end, opened my eyes regarding my atheist son. He believed until age 22, he's now 36. Gives me a new direction of prayer for him. Father, show Jordan your goodness and love! May your kindness lead him to repentance 🙏🏼

[@sindiswandamase71]

I just said a prayer for your son 🙏🏽 🙏🏽🙏🏽 May God's love become a reality in His life and His eyes be opened to His mercy and grace🙏🏽

[@angelialeah8780]

@@sindiswandamase71 thank you so much ❣️ that truly means so much to me! May the Lord bless you and keep you ❣️

[@rosealexander9007]

I used to pray for my son that God would open his mind when he was a atheist. Then I realized I needed to pray that God opens his heart. He’s now a believer again.

[@sharonabbott1099]

Angelia, check out Living Waters, Just Witnessing. Evangelist Ray Comfort has many videos presenting the gospel with people from many different backgrounds. Prayerfully find one that you believe will resonate with your son. Ray suggests that you can share the video and ask him for his thoughts. I'll be praying for the Lord to open your son's heart. 🙏

[@angelialeah8780]

@@sharonabbott1099 I love Ray Comfort, thank you for your suggestion and your prayers!

[@justhereyeah1112]

Let’s just embrace the fact that she had to actually read it to come with a question. She might not like it but she’s on her way 😊

[@AliasJimWirth]

Amen.

[@kelvinhooks9399]

She knows it's utter Bullshit!

[@Skarne]

I would say skimmed through before read. Her account of the bible sounds like a 9 year old tried to get through the text lol.

[@paulrichards6894]

about 5 years ago archaeologists dug up 75 ancient jews from the time of jesus...these "jews" had an average of 89% DNA of modern-day egyptians..How do you explain this??

[@paulrichards6894]

@@Skarne the gospels are anonymous and any one who thinks they are not does not even the brains of a 9-year-old

[@MRSALG]

I really hope she reads the recommended book and that we get to hear from her again as she said she would post a video on KZbin. Hopefully we get a follow up video of her from your channel. God bless!

[@cindyhurd5488]

Thank you for your open honesty. Just rrcently found yoir channel 💗

[@alexiscolby9415]

Jesus saith unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” John 20:29 KJV

[@courtneyyandell6637]

I feel bad for her. I couldn't imagine not talking and being with God every day and believing in and feeling Him with me.

[@paulrichards6894]

yer people telling other people they deserve to be tortured for eternity sound lovely people.....lucky for us its horse shit

[@jesse75]

You described being possessed. Kinda creepy.

[@tweakmymelons]

I don’t feel sorry for her, she knows the truth. I don’t feel sorry for you for believing a lie. Furthermore, her and I can live and be happy just like you, we are human.SMH

[@Yamyatos]

Did you ever consider that shizophrene people also talk to people they believe to be real every day? I know this sounds like mockers, but im honest here. How can you know?

[@paulrichards6894]

@@tweakmymelons knows the truth....you i assume don't believe in Allah.........do you they know the truth.....i dont think there is much chance of a god...i put it in the same bracket as leprechauns santa or the loch ness monster but one thing i am 100% certain of none of the Abrahamic gods exist....they have been thoroughly debunked

[@BeFaithful00]

Me listening to this gal is proof that my heart has more work to do in being more gracious toward people like her. I didn’t burst into this world believing, and while our unbelieving states didn’t look the same, we were brother and sister as children of wrath.

[@SimplyAwesomeOriginal]

Amen! - to the prayer at the end

[@maggieonsecurity]

I pray for Rachel too! ❤ While I have always been a Christian my entire life, I was raised from the day I was born into Christianity, a few years ago, I was in a very dark place when I lost my Mom and partner of 13 yrs within two months of each other. I thought God was trying to torture me. It was not a good place. I didn’t understand my identity in Him nor did I have any concept of His character. During that time, I adopted two kitties to help me through and my love for my babies helped me see a fraction of how God feels towards me. If anyone sincerely loves a child, then they can put themselves in the reverse order where we are the children and God is our Father (our parent). It was such a beautiful revelation. During my grief, our loving Father (God), wooed me back to Him and now my relationship with Him is deeper than before. It’s such a gift to know God. Thank you for making this video and being vulnerable to share you had been in Rachel’s place too.. God bless you! ❤

[@simonslater9024]

Please read my comment. God bless.

[@MontviewBlvdBabiez]

Christianity is a mental illness

[@LIGHTeonTopics]

Once my daughter was born, I began to understand by faith is completely reliant on simply trusting my heavenly Father.

[@peterwood2908]

You could tell she just needed Frank to be wrong. She has no position other than, "I'm right in whatever opinion I have this moment."

[@BeetleJuiceFromHell]

100% the opposite. She´s trying to ask questions but Turek, like always steers away because he doesn´t have answers.

[@usernametaken6659]

​@@BeetleJuiceFromHellhe was answering, she just didn't like the answer.

[@searchingforredemption1984]

​@@BeetleJuiceFromHellit would seem as though you either don't understand what Frank says or what is more likely you just reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ because you think you are far wiser than you are

[@peterwood2908]

@@BeetleJuiceFromHell tell us you're a woman without saying you're a woman. 🤣

[@BeetleJuiceFromHell]

@@usernametaken6659 Turek answer with a question and steers the conversation where he wants..

[@TAdler-ex8px]

I hear evidence of Calvinistic teaching. “If God by His Holy Spirit forced me to believe…then I would, but since He doesn’t force me, that must mean He’s not powerful enough for me to believe in!” There is an underlying value of power/control, not love/trust. It’s a stumbling block for MANY! Agree with you in prayer for her soul, our Lord is trustworthy!

[@RJKYEG]

Rachel here is very well spoken and she arrived prepared with thoughtful questions and responses. I wouldn't find Frank's responses quite satisfying. I think the dart hit closest on the question of dismissing miracles. I am surprised he didn't ask what would have to be different in the Gospels for her to believe them, or take the accounts as evidence.

[@maribelnegron5130]

I have family members who are going through what Rachel is now going through. I love the fact that you took the time to pray for her. Many of us have been the cause of a “Rachel” separated of the path of light. I thank God, because Rachel is still looking for an answer, it means that God is still working on her. I join your prayer for Rachel!

[@trugritoutdoors]

She said she “was” a Christian. My opinion is that something has happened in her life that negatively impacted her Christianity. This is why she “chooses” no longer to believe. By her showing up to this event tells me she wants to believe in Jesus and is looking for affirmation that He is true. Thanks for praying for her.

[@SLCKaled]

I wonder if she read the book and believes again. Let's pray for her 🙏. Can you also pray for my dad please his Name is Jorge. He is on the brink of divorce but doesn't know it yet.

[@gvaik]

Well this kind of non belief is easily solved for us Greek Orthodox Christians because we still today hear and witness miracles small or big happening around us. I personally know 3, as spoken to me by the people that experienced them. And look at how many new Saints we have. Sophrony of Essex, Joseph the Hesychast, Paisios of Mount Athos, Ephraim of Arizona, Lukas the doctor from Russia, Nectarios of Aegina (recent movie - the man of God), Justin Popović from Serbia to name a few.

[@curtis5809]

I think you’re right. One possibility is she was actually challenged with other ideas in college. At the university level is where many lose their faith they may have had their entire life. Look it up, the numbers are staggering. If that’s the case, I think there are many responsible for this. 1) The church- lack of deeper teaching, training and discipleship. 2)Liberal professors that are like wolves waiting to devour those young minds that enter their classroom. Many of them are Marxist and believe any religion is bad. 3) Foolish parents that think just because Johnny or sally is now 18 they are mature and will be just fine at that secular university.

[@AJ_Jingco]

​@@gvaikI'm a cradle Catholic and greetings to you fellow brother in Christ.

[@tbastrikes7847]

Father God, I pray that Rachel accepts Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior. Please send the correct circumstances and people her way to show her the truth. Preserve her life, protect her while she’s on her way back to you. In your Son’s name, Amen.

[@larrycarter3765]

Rachel is wonderful.

[@carlbromley]

Enjoyed your comments Bro

[@iamchelsearanea2373]

I love the way you broke it down about peoples perceptions of God not being good impacting their acceptance of the Bible

[@Edk3689]

These Ministers are paid for Con men…. Its so apparent just go get them to do what they do minus a salary? You can’t and they know it….

[@iloveyoursnottyattitude6137]

There are many different ways to accept the Bible but one doesn't have to be a Christian or a God-believer to do it.

[@darnoc0010]

@@iloveyoursnottyattitude6137 I agree with that. You can believe it's a historical account without believing it's 100% true. I read Homer's The Odyssey but don't believe it happened like that. And he never even wrote it. That doesn't change that I believe it's his account. The book was written by a scribe that heard Homer tell it. Yet no one seems to dispute Homer said it.

[@nschlaak]

She should read these accounts in the Chronological Order Bible for better clarity. J. Warner Wallace has covered this event very well from a detective's view point on his channel Cold Case Christianity.

[@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom]

Yes! Love him!

[@kevinmerino7432]

Watched a clip of him talking about that on Instagram. Really liked where he talked about how multiple eyewitness having different bits of details in their stories makes that information more credible

[@sachalg5720]

​@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Ok Let's Do this: do you belive the ''prophet Muhammad split the moon?? because i have fact and proof... a book talk about it and there's eyewitness... so now are you convinced?? Are you going to convert to islam???... it's the same as the resurrection of jesus just a "book" and "eyewitness".... that's not enough evidences for such a claim. Do you get it now??

[@Praise___YaH]

@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom - Here is THE Savior (THE ORIGINAL) YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

[@sbyrstall]

If all four of the Gospels were the same, then we would be screaming copying. The fact they aren't, means that each apostle had their own personal view of it

[@KllswtchOvrDrv]

I like your point at the end about people WANTING to not believe. They poke holes in everything and ignore important points because they are just trying to confirm their own beliefs to themselves

[@rodglen7071]

I've always been somewhat envious (not in a bad way) of folks who come to Christ as an adult, having seen both sides thoroughly and reveling in the massive changes / direction in later life. I sometimes feel I'm lacking the fervor and passion of the newly saved.

[@lizzard13666]

This poor lady, I genuinely feel so sorry for her. The world has enticed her and she's fallen for it, but I'm praying for her!

[@salserokorsou]

You just believe in the bible cuz that's what you grew up with.

[@TheGoatLocker]

Yes, and idk why people struggle with the concept of hell. Imagine all the child rapists and murders who have never faced justice ... God will bring judgment, and they'll get what they deserve according to his will. So long as they continue to reject him. Also, people who were good humans yet rejected God. Their hell will simply be separation from God. They'll get what they chose to believe in, darkness after death. Now, the more important part is those that simply say yes to Jesus will spend eternity with him in heaven. There's no consequence for believing in him. It helps you lead a better life, with hope and forgiveness. What's so wrong with that?

[@TheGoatLocker]

​@@salserokorsouyou're just making assumptions. Your doubt will never shake a believers faith. You might as well keep it to yourself, you're only convincing yourself. But hey, by all means.

[@salserokorsou]

@@TheGoatLocker did you grow up Muslim?

[@phoenixtheraver]

They teach this at Harvard Seminary, The Disciples couldn't read and write, they were illiterate. The canonized bible was written between 100 AD and 900 AD by the Phoenicians.

[@heathersykes3668]

I LOVE that you prayed for Rachel! ❤🎉 Lord draw Rachel to you and show her Your secret! May You be glorified through Rachel’s life in Jesus name amen!

[@tomtinker220]

I worked in law enforcement for 31 years. I was a homicide detective for some of that…almost no two accounts of an homicide were exact. There were almost always differences in what people saw or remembered. Defense attorney’s often tried to use those differences to undercut witness reliability but no one ever argued the deceased never died….differences are a feature of eyewitness accounts not a bug.

[@cornbread9763]

Agree with her. If someone's writing about this event, I think they would include such a major detail.

[@kelennaanyanwu5372]

I had so many questions as a young man growing up. I had doubts about what was preached. At a point Christianity started to catch my interest, it was a false teaching that sounded so pleasant. But one thing that helped is I was eager to hear God. And many times I prayed, God spoke to me through the bible, through people that didn't realise they were resolving the most uncommon but delicate issues in my life. The bible is the only book I trust without doubt. Just because you don't see the truth doesn't mean it isn't there, you need to ask God to show you.

[@TKBMcdaniel]

Agreed, we all at some point need to say, "God, if you are real, please reveal yourself to me so that I will believe, forgive my doubts, and show me the truth." Seek, and you will find, knock, and the door will be opened. 🙏 if we are seeking Him, He will show up.

[@rustycaplinger8036]

Amen

[@philipliebegott1221]

Amen

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

​@@TKBMcdanielI asked Him that multiple times, but He never showed up. I got tired of waiting. Maybe He does not want me or He is not real.

[@TKBMcdaniel]

@haggismcbaggis9485 That is a lie straight from the pit of hell. Do not believe it. Keep asking, keeping questioning, keep reading, and looking for Him. He will speak to you if you have the Word hidden in your heart. I promise. I had a mental breakdown after our 24 yr old daughter was murdered. I screamed at God, that I hated Him and His so-called "plan for my life" and didn't want any part of it. Then there were days I lay on the floor screaming and crying to Him, "My God, why have you forsaken me?!" Then I remembered Jesus on the cross. Those were His words. Then I realized, "this is what it felt like to Him." And then I heard God speak to my heart, "I did not leave my Son, and I will not leave you."

[@solavita306]

I have had many conversations with my sister about times we shared as children....listening to us you would think we grew up in two different families. My brother and I are more likely to remember details similarly, but the bits that stood out to us that we thought were important enough to talk about were all different for each of us. We related to the exact same event in 3 different ways, and because of that, how we recounted the event shared some of the same information, but otherwise was totally unalike. Rachel would like the Gospels to be false eyewitness accounts she that She can feel better about denying Christ.

[@melbied6215]

Only two of the four gospels even CLAIM to be eyewitness accounts. According to the VAST majority of Biblical scholars, Mark (not even claiming to be an apostle/eyewitness) was written first. Yet, Matthew, a supposed apostle/eyewitness copies Mark WORD FOR WORD over 50% of the time. Why would an eyewitness DIRECTLY copy a non-eyewitness in his testimony ever? Why?

[@jomidiam]

@@melbied6215 "Why?" is always a difficult question to answer, because we can never fully understand anyone's motivation for anything. Even when people tell you why they did certain things, it'll never be a complete answer, because people have unconscious or subconscious reasons of which they themselves aren't consciously aware. Perhaps, though, his intention was simply to expand on the existing account, adding things that he thought would make it more complete. Why rewrite an already circulating accurate account of what he witnessed himself? Instead, just add to what's already been written. It can be viewed as an endorsement of the veracity of Mark that an eyewitness to the events uses his account word for word and just adds things Mark perhaps had never been told or didn't consider important to what he was trying to communicate.

[@neun2609]

⁠@@melbied6215maybe the question can be: To whom are the testimonies written? Mark wrote to the non-jews, Matthew to the jews. So he can repeat some things and add the jewish context to it, because a different „target“ group is in the focus of the text.

[@neun2609]

I experienced the same thing and was astonished.

[@AliceinJapanaland]

Exactly. I have 6 siblings and the idea that our memories and accounts of our shared history are "made up" because they are the same in some aspects and differ in others is laughable. Perspective is everything and also attentiveness and presence. I wasn't there or may not have been paying attention for every moment my siblings were and vice versa. It's totally natural that our accounts of some events would both be the same and be different

[@323azteca]

I like your explanation about Rachel's state of mind. Makes alot of sense.

[@LGpi314]

No, it does not. Turek is full of apologists excuses and fallacies.

[@gsgidney]

9:02 You completely overlooked her statement: "I used to be a Christian." THAT is worth investing more than this whole interaction.

[@150six5]

Having come from a place of utter emotional and spiritual destitution that had haunted me since childhood, I couldn't stand the thought that there might be a place worse than what I was currently experiencing within myself. I had been taught to hate myself. When I got honest, I found that I had no idea of who God was. All I could feel was that quiet inner desperation of self-loathing. Once I arrived at that place of losing all hope, I became willing to look beyond myself to the possibility of answers found deeply within myself. This required that I turn and face the truth of how I felt about myself. It was then that God began to show me just how mistaken I was. He showed me how to begin to feel the truth and to identify with the truth rather than the traumas of my past.

[@helgashouseofpain]

🖤

[@louangesaves3481]

Hi Brandon , thank you for your channel and the content that you bring your viewers . It saddens me when people aren’t open to the Good News . When I was 27 back in 1994 I had an experience with God that changed my life . I know HE exists .

[@cameronadair5422]

You do NOT know god exists because NOBODY can know this. You are claiming to know something which CANNOT be known, so I will say just one more thing...... PROVE IT.

[@jediflip4205]

Bro you’re such a dub for relating from the old you to now is amazing that’s how I know your gonna touch a lot more atheists than us 🙏 God bless you!!!

[@haryc8759]

I am agnostic. We are taught a religion. I was brought up catholic but then my curiosity made me read the Torah and the Quran. I respect everyone’s opinion and I don’t force my views on others. There’s a lot of religious evil people and a lot of good people without religious faith.

[@alexsalari2014]

I couldn’t have come across this at any other point. I had a such a hard battle (and still do) when my dad died when I was 20. I’m 37 now and still struggle. I’m a father of 3 boys and I know without a doubt that in my soul, my need to be closer. I need to bring my family closer. And seeing these types of conversations done in both a logical and in faith, makes it’s so much easier (in my opinion) to explain it to anyone without being pushy. Thank you so much, amen.

[@dustinryan9671]

Being pushy is not the goal or the real goal of being a Christian. It's simply our job to speak in truth and preach the gospel. It's not our job to save people or to make them believe, most people will not go to heaven, in my opinion 90% will burn. If you grow you children up in God's truth it will provide a foundation that most will never have.

[@Opinionteer]

We all suffer from degrees of closeness either through resistance or pride. It’s a struggle until it isn’t.

[@mommasbigboy8656]

@@dustinryan9671why did god make the people who are going to burn in hell?

[@dustinryan9671]

@@mommasbigboy8656 he did not, what he did do was give them the ability to choose with out him interfering. Why he made all this I have no idea maybe because he wanted too.

[@mommasbigboy8656]

@@dustinryan9671 are you saying god didn’t know they would inevitably end up in hell? I thought he was all knowing?

[@AncientApparatus]

I really like that you not only critiqued this woman's complaints but that you actually prayed for her. ALL Christians should be this way in not just condemning those who are against Christians/Christianity but to actually care about them enough as fellow human beings to pray for them. It easy to hate or better yet to only love those who are the same as us but takes the love of Christ & the power of The Holy Spirit to love even our enemies or those we don't like or agree with.

[@coachbronco]

Exactly!

[@jmdmiller]

That is a sweet had, keep up the good work.

[@n.c.1201]

kuddos to this lady

[@jacobgingerhoffman7816]

As a Christian Hell hasn't really been a hangup to me because before I became a Christian I knew that I deserved Hell. I was evil and I believed God was good so how could God allow me in his presence if I was evil. I needed God to take the evil and the punishment that justice deserved to take away me wickedness. Because I realized the bad news the good news was truly the good news.

[@whitemountainapache3297]

Listen Lover, you need to put the crack pipe down. Unless you were Albert Fish, Ian Brady or Sidney Cooke, you never deserved an eternity of torture.

[@mage1086]

Sumerian Enlil is the god of Bible. Anu Enlil Enki are the trinity. Enlil never liked humans and wanted them fully wiped out. Enki created humans and they both came to an agreement of keeping humans at a certain population. No wonder the Illuminiati are talking about population control.

[@ax3226]

Jesus real name is not even Jesus it’s a made up western name Jesus never was christian nor did he know about or preach Christianity, Christianity was made up way after Jesus, their church pictures depict Jesus as a white man, while Jesus was a Middle Eastern man born in Palestine to A Palestinian Girl, Jesus wore clothes thobe like Muslims, he put his forehead on the ground and worshiped God like Muslims do, His mother Mary covered her hair and dressed modestly🧕 like Muslim women. So tell me which is the real Jesus, the bible white made up changed version Jesus or Isa Ibn Maryiam (Jesus Son of Mary) The Muslim Jesus Who worshiped The One True God with no sons no partners no trinity! Who submitted his will to his Creator which is the meaning of Islam. The Aramaic word for God is אלהא Elāhā ( Biblical Aramaic) and ܐܠܗܐ Alāhā ( Syriac), which comes from the same Proto- Semitic word (* ʾil-) as the Arabic and Hebrew terms; Jesus is described in Mark 15:34 as having used the word on the cross Jesus Called God ‘Alaha Jesus is a Muslim

[@theparadigmshift74]

Many years before i was born again, and the last time i did xanax before i got sober. The Lord literally scared the hell out of me. I had a vision i was in hell, everything was devoid of spirit , there was no life in anything. I would describe it perfectly as a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth. All the color and the breath of life was stripped away of everything around me. I was floating around in my room and i was terrified because i couldnt communicate with anyone, i floated upstairs to try to talk to anyone but i was isolated, i was cut off from everything and everyone. It was like everything had the most horrific grey haze over it. I couldnt make any noise or speak any words, i realized that i was trapped within my own self, like the poverty that i really was, i realized i rejected God so much that i was stuck with my own choice, and that was to be without Him and live in my sin and poverty that was my own soul, i realized how much i actually enjoyed the life and reality God had blessed me with, even though it was hard, it was nothing like that place was. I cried out to God and just pleaded for help, and i woke up! I literally kissed the ground .Last time i ever used xanax, 7 years ago! I was born again last september! The Lord is full of mercy and grace , but his patience wont last forever.

[@saltandsriracha]

This is so powerful, when you see what the devil is doing in the world. The going narrative is that people are destroying the planet, so we're evil, so if there is a Hell, we must deserve it, right? Why procreate and add more "human filth" to the world? Why bother with anything? In that case, why seek God? This held me back for a while, too. But God is good, and God saves. ❤

[@OuraVille]

I love that you didn’t just say “oh im going to pray for you” you actually prayed and im speaking in faith that God will move on her and her testimony will be so powerful and save many more who feel like she did in Jesus name amen!

[@Deadgurl717]

I’m with ya Rachel! What about chapters completely left out of the Bible .? Say for instance Lilith? Why is she never mentioned ?

[@lizbethmari3]

It’s crazy how she is so quick in believing in hell without any problem, but has a problem believing in miracles and God

[@natalia1045]

As far as an earthquake argument- I personally felt and heard one a month ago- because I was staying in my mother in law and I was with my baby, she was sleeping in a travel crib and the crib was banging on the door of a closet- it’s very light and that’s why it moved- I heard it and I felt it because I was laying on my stomach on a bed next to it and it was hitting my foot for like 8s. However nobody in a house felt anything! Couple minutes later it was in news and it was so interesting to talk to people because some felt it and some didn’t! It happed in Slovakia and earthquakes there are unheard of!

[@LL-th2hw]

Are used to live in an area where we had earthquakes quite often. More often than not when talking with different people one person felt it and another person didn’t. And not everybody felt it the same way.

[@natalia1045]

@@Dawkinsbulldog I see your point there because I used to not believe myself too.

[@natalia1045]

@@Dawkinsbulldog I didn’t say I particularly believe yet. There are so many things I don’t understand and neither do you. We can argue here who has the truth but none of us know. But I choose to love my neighbour. I love that concept. It’s appealing to me, I think we should all respect each other and Christianity teaches that. So yes I love studying Bible but I can’t say I know everything’s and that I am hundred percent convinced of YHWH existence.

[@natalia1045]

@@Dawkinsbulldog oh but I have experienced supernatural myself! Something I cannot explain. Thank you for your advice. I have spent 30 years of my life being miserable atheist so I have to politely decline your advice.

[@coachbronco]

That type of information should have been delivered by any pastors out there. It did happen to me. Sometimes I don't feel it while others do.

[@lepterfirefall]

These are all valid questions...

[@francis5518]

I believe in a universal intelligence, that we are one with it, that we can take action to connect with it, but I can not dismiss other big religions, since they work as well for other people. I am ultimately with her in the sense that we don't need to take the bible literally, and we can still learn from it and connect to god by following it, except when we are asked to take it literally, but I have also been enlightened by other religious and philosophic texts, such as the Bhagavad-gītā, the Tao Te Ching and Buddhist sutras. God is, by definition, universal, so it out pores in all cultures, if this wasn't so, why do so many other people feel connected to god in through their respective creeds?

[@jamessantos7462]

Her response to Frank’s illustration about a reporter is Those are ordinary things and it’s not hard to believe. I’m convinced that if she were to hit the lottery she would be in such disbelief that she would probably throw away the winning ticket and go buy another ticket

[@Sevendookiie]

People win the lottery, people dont resurrect far as we know

[@Sevendookiie]

People win the lottery, people dont resurrect far as we know

[@darnoc0010]

@@Sevendookiie By technicality resurrection is a common occurrence. I agree not on the level your implying but many people die for minutes or even hours then are brought back to life.

[@jamessantos7462]

@@Sevendookiie Jesus did rise from the dead because first and foremost he is God almighty in the flesh and the eyewitness testimonies. The disciples saw him after and I’m pretty sure they were shocked themselves. There’s no telling what they’re reactions could’ve been.

[@Charlotte_Martel]

The mass opening of graves and the dead walking out as chronicled in the Gospel of Matthew fall under "ordinary things"? Why is there not a single Roman or Jewish source which cites this event?

[@kellylorang6845]

I love how respectful & down to earth Frank is. He does not denigrate those who question Christianity.

[@zerubbablestranger6970]

God is good….. God is good….. God Is Good This very fundamental concept has been such a problem for me but as I’ve grown in my Christian worldview, becoming familiar with God’s attributes, His justice and love among the most important, I’m seeing how He has sustained me and brought me to where I am now. I’m learning that He doesn’t change (Malachi 3:6) but I’m changing constantly and I’m trusting Him more and more. ✝️☝🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@user-mk8fu4qg8w]

😂😂😂

[@DeckApe777]

“A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.” Ben Franklin

[@riissmith5836]

This woman is a loving woman not a hateful one. Trust me. And if the Lord is real, He will ensure she comes back unshakably with faith that doesn’t have to make perfect sense. I was just like her months ago.

[@christopherton]

Imagine if we applied her criteria to all of history

[@melbied6215]

We DO apply that standard with all of history when it comes to miracle claims. I can accept Joseph Smith existed in history yet dismiss the fact he saw and received messages from the Angel Moroni despite the 5-6 eyewitness accounts. I can accept Sathya Sai Baba existed in history and yet completely dismiss ALL his miracle claims despite MILLIONS of eyewitnesses (way more than Jesus). Same with all historical figures that claimed to be divine. I’m 99.9% sure you do the same.

[@christopherton]

@@melbied6215 Her need for eyewitnesses to do the actual writing is very strange. The gospels were originally conferred orally I can’t prove it. But I imagine notes were taken down. Now apply her only eyewitness testimony is seemingly valid to all of history. His Titanic example is solid

[@paulrichards6894]

notice christians don't apply the same skepticism to other religions to their own

[@paulrichards6894]

@christopher the first gospel of mark was written after 72ad because he mentions the jewish wars......we know it was written in a different country probably Rome in a different language...the writer gets everything wrong about jewish life ...mistakes copied by luke but corrected by matthew....mark paints the romans in a good light which strongly supports mark writing his gospel in Rome which would also explain his lack of knowledge of Jewish life

[@christopherton]

@@paulrichards6894 Why would we? We believe only Christianity is true