Former friend who called me a bad influence for being childfree just demanded today.

Former friend who called me a bad influence for being childfree just demanded today that I take in his family + 3 kids into my home.
#reddit #redditrelationship #redditupdate

[@akkiko]

when i got my own home my mother gave me a few words of wisdom. "it's easy to invite someone into your home. it's not so easy to invite them out." she was right and i learned that the hard way. bloody cat won't leave me alone.

[@cameronmiyao2673]

Meow = bitch better have my (food)

[@jhalynmendes2746]

This made me chuckle lmao

[@havoc7343]

Had us ngl

[@Mike.Erman.Trout.]

For real, some stray cat told me he lives here now and invited 2 of his friends. They bully me a lot and if I don't give them food they shit on my TV stand.

[@kyle18934]

​@miguelhenry7268 sound familiar... a cat decided to take a fat dump in my car, then had the audacity to have kittens under my bed... she even raised one of her kittens there.... not one thankyou...

[@antoniotrivelloni8191]

He was 100% going to claim squatter's rights. Some of these laws regarding squatter's rights in some places are absolutely ABSURD.

[@tachobrenner]

This had an 80% probability of being fake.

[@Arkryal]

That's not what "squatter's rights" mean. It is just a colloquialism for "Adverse Possession" which, depending on jurisdiction takes 10-25 years and a lot of very specific criteria needs to be met. This is "Hostile Tenancy" (though it may be called different things in different jurisdictions, "Delinquent Tenancy" is common... there are a multitude of terms for the same thing). What he was attempting was to establish temporary residency, meaning after a period (7 days in OP's jurisdiction, apparently), he would need to be legally served an eviction. That would take 30 days minimum, and he could drag it out for 90 days beyond that in many cases. So 4 months of free rent is the most he could have hoped for. If this was during the Covid eviction moratorium or if the courts were still backed up from that, it could have taken even longer, but that depends on a lot of factors not included in the post. But it's a douche-bag move, especially since he has the money to get his family an apartment. Sorry if that's pedantic, a lot of people mention "Squatter's Rights" in this context, when it's actually something very different. I'm just clarifying because it makes a big difference in how the issue is resolved. Actual "Squatter's Rights" (Adverse Possession) can be exploited, but it's extremely difficult to do so, and it does serve a useful purpose. It's not as crazy as it sounds. Adverse possession requires you to occupy a residence in an "Open and Notorious" manner (you can't hide the fact that you're there), and you have to remain there for a very long time, uncontested by the owner. In the US, Texas is the shortest term, 10 years of continued residency. Most states are much longer than that. You can't pay rent in this time as any part of a lease etc, it has to be "hostile occupancy". If the owner contests the occupancy at any time in that term, the claim is immediately nullified. There are a lot of other hoops to jump through. It's very hard to exploit squatter's rights. As for why squatter's rights are "useful", and not such a bad idea, I like to explain with an example. Imagine your great, great, great grandfather was in the California Gold Rush. He had a claim of land. He owned the land. But there was no gold on his claim, so he packed up his shit and went back east, abandoning the claim. He still owned it, but never did anything with it. The Title in theory is conveyed down through the generations, and now that useless plot of land is half of Downtown San Fransisco, valued in the tend of billions, conservatively. Would you have claim to it now, or would the people who live there, have built homes (purchased in good faith with clear title) have a stronger claim? Legally they would. The people that came before them may have been squatters on your ancestor's land, but as it was abandoned, and the claim to the land was never defended over decades, any rights from the original owner were nullified. What this guy is doing is more akin to a deadbeat rental tenant. You're a landlord and you rent to some meth head who simply refuses to leave or pay rent. You can get them out of there, but the legal process takes time. The deadbeats drag out that process for as long as they can to stay where they aren;t wanted. It's not exactly the same as squatting, and there are different legal remedies in such a situation.

[@hiqhihihihi]

@@tachobrenner It def is fake. These all are.

[@bereck7735]

​@@Arkryalthanks for the post, makes sense.

[@natecar1]

@@tachobrenner 100%. It from a child free subreddit and contains 2 different stories about unrelated people being giant arseholes to 2 different people for being child free?! Load of bollox

[@andresamaya7350]

Why is it so taboo to dislike kids? They can be a nightmare.

[@midnitethedsixl4601]

Unfortunately the "mombie" mentality is strong with some people and just because they don't understand how some people don't like kids, they immediately hate those people. It's disgusting we're judged for wanting to live our lives without kids

[@Ezme666]

Exactly like wtf. At least I’m still getting my sleep, and my place is CLEAN😂😂 Y’all (not you but these people w/ kids) can get mad all they want bc they’re sleep deprived since they got cream-pied in.😂💀

[@K4113B4113]

@@Ezme666this comment with this pfp 🤣

[@K4113B4113]

I don’t know. I love kids, but only in small doses, and infrequently, and not in my house. Seeing my niece once a month for a couple hours is just perfect😝

[@user-qz9lc1lt2y]

can i dislike immigrants? They can also be a nightmare

[@sanddagger36]

"You took in a dying pregnant lady with covid and cancer" "Now you have to take in me because my water heater broke." WTF

[@heyitsally7995]

Lupus is an autoimmune disease, not cancer. The guy’s mom died of cancer

[@Heidelmann]

It's a hot water tank. Like rough it for 2 days with cold water. It's not that big of a deal. Oh my there's more to the story.

[@sanddagger36]

@Heidelmann I know, but considering he was just trying to claim squatters rights, maybe he could've come up with a better lie.

[@Poodle_Gun]

"How dare you not give me the cute home for our kids! You're the money guy!"

[@phantomwraith1984]

His water heater wasn't even broken. He was running some kind of pyramid scheme scam all over the place

[@merlin5411]

Imagine throwing a friend away just because they had no kids, then come crawling back just because there’s an emergency. It’s so dumb

[@AmyPieterse]

They wanted to claim squatters rights

[@kurokami7530]

Yeah but the way she later talked about kids in the video sounds honestly like she might have been talking negativly about kids before and I get it if that's the reason he wanted to cut contact.

[@f687sNFM]

Its not even an emergency, they wanted to squat for free and overstay

[@Only1199]

He was 100% going to try to claim OP's house and try to kick OP out but expect OP to still pay for everything

[@qq84]

@@AmyPieterse squatters rights (in the US) is something different, you have to live at least 10 years (much longer in most states) and meet other criteria, e.g. no contest against you living there, to even be able to claim squatters rights in the US. What they tried to get is temporary residency.

[@scpfoundation8376]

Not your kids, not your responsibility. If your child free, that’s your decision. If not having kids mean your a bad influence, then he should know better than to think that you’d actually be willing to bring HIS kids in your house.

[@shadmansudipto7287]

If your child free? If your child is free? You're decision?

[@FaizatheTempest]

@@shadmansudipto7287 What-

[@scpfoundation8376]

@@shadmansudipto7287 if your serious about not understanding what I said: Childfree as in not wanting kids or dealing with them (depending on on the person, kids related to you don’t count). If someone doesn’t want kids or wants to deal with them, that’s their DECISION and CHOICE to be CHILDFREE. If you’re joking and did understand what I said: Yes I give away free kids. I don’t want them and you can’t sell them so…….

[@shadmansudipto7287]

@@scpfoundation8376 "your serious"? My serious what exactly?

[@shadmansudipto7287]

@@scpfoundation8376 I just don't understand what you mean by "if your child free" like, if the child you have is free? Or did you mean, "if you're child free"?

[@midnitethedsixl4601]

I'll never understand how or why some people that, once they have kids, turn into monsters toward their childfree friends. People who throw away friendships for that reason disgust me, they treat it as though you _must_ put your life on hold for someone else by taking on the literal life-changing responsibility of having kids, in order to be their friend.

[@seabreeze4559]

envy

[@DisIngRaM]

Family pressure i guess. Some of the employee I employed, stole invoice payments. She was a very hardworking and trustworthy before she had kids. This happen 2 times, with another employee that just got kids too The 2nd one at least it's not payment she smuggled. I think if they talk first, things would've been better. Sure they won't get rich fast by stealing things, but perhaps maybe a raise or 30 minutes go home early might be possible.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

To make sure they never win the argument, say “why do you trust me with kids when *I* don’t trust me with kids”

[@monejohn9973]

I've looked it up online and I've asked people in person and it's because they're jealous. I've had to cut people off. Because once they have kids, they try to act like they're more important than you. And they try to use their kid as an excuse. Why they're lying because they think you won't say anything. Basically, bad parents act like this.

[@tessajones9393]

It goes both ways though also. My husband (we have 2 kids) recently got broken up with by one of his good mates (child free) because he never went to many parties and things even though my husband went out with them as much as he could. my husband even hung out with them when I was having a miscarriage because it was a planned event. This couple though kept pulling the 'use a babysitter' card meanwhile they often brought their dogs along like get a dog sitter 😂 the thing is with people with kids, we know what its like to be cf because we were single before haha but cf people have no idea. I have friends who are cf but they have nieces and nephews and common sense so our relationship is fine.

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

Im sick of these leeches calling people selfish for not giving in to their demands

[@alejandroc7357]

That’s how it works. They hope you will give in due to guilt.

[@MaryAX]

They're cluster Bs who think they will never be put into place. Little do they know, we strike back. 😊

[@bearsong8486]

They always pop up on Reddit!

[@quantasium]

People will walk away from you during your darkest hour, but will magically reappear when the storm clears. People need to understand that not everyone is worthy of being called friend.

[@mksmike]

Even worse is when they only appear again because they need something, like dave.

[@Janary08]

They're the fair-weather friends

[@Just1Nora]

Yeah...one of my bffs is the other way around they only contact me when they have a crisis.

[@4kach24]

​@@Just1Norawhy are they your bff then

[@4kach24]

In my opinion,Dave just didn't want to deal with her during that time It's easier to say that it was solely because of the religious reasons and her being childfree,etc Maybe he thought that he wouldn't be considered as such a jerk if he said that she's not allowed in his home because she's child free To me, it seems lika a really weak excuse. A true friend would help a person in that position ,but it seems he just considered her as a burden when she stopped being useful to him and couldn't find a reason better to cut her off

[@Z.O.1991]

When I was younger, my cousin was staying with us for several days because something happened to her home. (I don't remember what). Anyways, on day two, her young daughter was making a mess and my mom told her to clean to clean it up, but cousin dismissed it saying that her "daughter is just a kid, and kids make messes". My mom put her foot down and told her that there is no way that she going to allow that type of behavior in her own home. The two fought and my cousin decided to pack her things and leave. She ended up losing custody of her own child and she is now all over social media playing victim for her poor life choices.

[@fireheartedtimemanagemente5678]

Good on your mom

[@deaththekid3998]

A mother losing custody? Holy hell, she must’ve been a mess

[@Z.O.1991]

@deaththekid3998 My aunt is the type of person to push boundaries and will interfere in anyone lives. So my aunt thought that she would tell CPS what kind of lifestyle my cousin live and that would make CPS interfere, take the kid, and give her custody. Nope! She lost all rights herself since she knew my cousin's lifestyle and never told anyone. The child was placed for foster care and then adoption.

[@Z.O.1991]

@fireheartedtimemanagemente5678 My mom could be annoying, but she has a diamond spine. Don't mess with her and her house.

[@seabreeze4559]

I know a relative who happily gossips with Social Services (UK) but gets offended when they wanna meddle with HER. Not so fun, when the rabbit gets the gun? @@Z.O.1991

[@spicynoodles2742]

I will never understand people who become so arrogant and entitled after having children, to the point that they believe that people outside of them owe them something just for having unprotected sex.

[@monejohn9973]

Most people that have kids young feel this way, I had a ignorant neighbor that thought that I was gonna babysit her child because she was 16 and I had just graduated and I've had dumb brothers that thought that I was gonna watch their kids 24/7, People get entitled to your time and try to treat you like. The s***** baby ma or baby daddy that they chose until I scream in their face. I don't have any f****** kids. Take care of your own d*** kids or don't f****** have them.

[@Poodle_Gun]

This. They act mad if they aren't always first in line and the world doesn't babysit their kids. They feel like they deserve the best single men for their kids, and other women are immature for not understanding their sexual aggression and aren't mature enough to have a family. This is the real reason single and childless women hate housewives. I think a lot of us hate (most) single moms too. And then we "hate" men, due to their contribution to the problem.

[@Poodle_Gun]

*hate is a strong word, you know what I mean!

[@darkriku12]

​@@monejohn9973lol my roommate expected me to watch her baby from time to time for free and freaked out at me when I refused. Threw a fit even her son would never do

[@partyshoes2917]

My ex friend did this to our friend group his wife convinced him us childless people were a bad influence on their family a few months later he realized the only friends cut out where his. He called me up and I told him too bad too sad you and your wife should own your decisions

[@mksmike]

Oh so his wife basically manipulated him into isolating himself.

[@seabreeze4559]

I'd say call me when you get divorced.

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

I have to say it’s not that kids are bad.. it’s the parents. Kids are monsters if you just let them raise themselves, seems human aren’t naturally good. No consequence, never told no, mommy makes everyone else responsible not her baby and then BAM adult toddlers

[@Jonnesdeknost]

Humans are group 'animals' letting them grow up alone will bring the expected trouble. Humans aren't inherently evil, and often humans do evil things when they think they are doing the right thing.

[@sheppycider123]

I heard somewhere that children are little barbarians and it’s the parents job to civilise them, seems accurate lol

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

@@sheppycider123 Wow that’s a great way to put it. You literally can’t diagnose psychopathy in kids cause most will pop positive, you have to teach them to be good adults. Think of how rough a child can be with a pet, they have to learn to be good and gentle

[@CyanidePusher]

Hey I raised myself and I turned out great, ignore the mess, ignore all of *that over there*

[@juliawacker]

Yes and no, every human will go wild if they have the chance. Kids also have phases where they test your patience/boundaries and question everything.

[@nikitadutta3286]

Is no one gonna talk about how satisfying what the sister, bestfriend and Kate's SIL did?? I love this story. Idc if it's fake

[@nolan6137]

Having kids is a choice and a huge responsibility that so few take do not take seriously.

[@ms.pirate]

Agreed, it's the reason why theres so many abusive parents. Because of society's push on having kids. We have over 8 billion people in the world right now! We are not going extinct!

[@mgntstr]

100% of the firstborns by my friends i grew up with where unplanned happy accidents

[@scipion34]

So?

[@Shogun1982]

There's a flip side to that coin. A lot of people have kids in an intentional way, but for PURELY selfish reasons, like some add-on to the pension/401k retirement plan or a status symbol. At least the "happy surprises" aren't the result of some cold calculated chess [or more often Tic Tac Toe] move.

[@Permenantlyexhaustedghost115]

I’ll never understand the hatred towards people who live child free. It’s a personal choice. Dave is a real asshole for just demanding favors after calling his friend trash and lying about his situation just to get free housing. Meanwhile he’s sitting on a pile of cash while crying “poor me”. What a leech.

[@mgntstr]

Do not confuse pity with hatred and feelings of alienation by the child free people as they get into being busy busy busy with their kids instead of them.

[@georgidimitrov836]

It goes both ways: Momzillas hate single people out of envy for their free time and feel like their childbearing is some kind of rare achievement. Vehement child-free people hate being constantly badgered by family about procreation and feel alienated from their family-oriented friends.

[@lisaabc513]

Except the CF people who share their opinions on how to raise children....stay in your lane. You didn't want children, fine. Don't spout your opinions about how people should raise children when you have no clue

[@mgntstr]

What matters is what is being said not who is saying it.@@lisaabc513

[@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami]

​@@lisaabc513when did OP gave someone advice on raising children? And is it too much to ask someone to discipline their kid?

[@aleksandarvil5718]

*NOT your circus, NOT your monkeys !!!*

[@peachsmileplayz26]

I’m glad she said no. Just before even knowing all of the situation, you know that the water heater being “broken” was a lie. My water heater has broken two times this year and yk what, my parents called someone the next day to come fix it. Guess what! It worked 💀

[@clintborasio8701]

Sounded like it flooded their house and probably can't live there due to the home repairs going on

[@monejohn9973]

Plus so what 😅Dave still had water just not heat ....he better bowl that water.

[@JewelWildmoon]

The water heater thing. We've had a broken water heater and either dealt with the cold water or filled a bucket with a mix of the cold water and hot water from a kettle. A broken water heater isn't something that would put someone out of a home and, as people said, can be fixed within the same day.

[@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755]

" I told him tough shit " LMFAO! That was so brutal, but completely justified.

[@pinstripesuitandheels]

Methinks Dave's wife didn't like Dave hanging out with another woman, and that's the actual reason Dave broke off the friendship.

[@UmeshKumar-um7ze]

Then why didn't he just tell her that? 😂

[@shizukagozen777]

OP is a woman ?? I was pretty sure that was a guy... 🤨🤔

[@haruk2312]

Ah....the classic 'woman is always wrong' trope. It could just be that the guy is a dick but okay.

[@redlegend7580]

It's so common for friends to leave your side when they get kids and you stay free of them. I legit had people completely Stop hanging out with me cause my lifestyle no longer fits theirs with kids. Like I even just invited them over for coffee and instead of saying they don't wanna hang out anymore since I am not a mother they kept blaming their kids.

[@mksmike]

Yeah I can get not hanging out as often, but cutting people out completely for no reason is just crazy behavior.

[@clintborasio8701]

Because it's not about you and your friends anymore, it's about their children and what's best for them, and kids take up a lot of free time, where they probably just don't have the energy to go do stuff with you, stop taking it personally

[@e.t.2914]

@@clintborasio8701 THIS. But also because the parents are just generally tired, its easier to blame the kids and not hang out than it is to coordinate a way for everybody to hang out together. I've got a friend who has a young child and we don't hang out much anymore just because its hard to accommodate each other's lifestyles. I don't wanna come over to her place because she's got two large barking uncontrollable dogs that she never trained before she had kids and she can't bring her kid over to my place for long if at all because the dogs have to be kenneled while she's gone because they live in an apartment, so they can't just go out and pee. It definitely true that it's more convenient for her if I visit her, but it just isn't PLEASANT for me to visit at her place. And since I have limited free time out of work, why would I choose to spend it being miserable, especially when her poor life management is the reason its miserable? I love her, but paths diverge and people have to move in different directions sometimes.

[@monejohn9973]

​@@clintborasio8701duhhhh 😅 And that's not the point. Most of you turn into sorry as friends. Because you're just sorry as people. I've invited my friends to the zoo circus,All types of child friendly events that I would help them. And they still had a lot of excuses. Because most of the time you are just lazy and jealous.😅 After a whole year of trying to hang out with somebody or talk to them on the phone. If you avoid that person you're a sorry as person. No amount of kids is gonna make you so busy that you have 0 time for your friend.!

[@theonlyladybella44480]

This is why mothers become miserable. You lose who you are. Remember before you were someone's mother you were a person. Don't stop doing a simple thing such as getting coffee with your friends. I know everything is about your child now but you're still a human being with emotions.

[@DrewHoward-tk1jz]

Nah, that was crazy, he really did get what was coming to him. Got absolutely cancelled after threatening to cancel someone else.

[@Tinandel]

Man, selling your house without having a new place lined up first? That’s day one stuff…

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

And in seller's market to boot.

[@HA-zx2pk]

...water heater is easy to deal with... boil it on the stove. Add water to the bath tub. Bathe kids with a mixture of hot and cold water... it'll be warm or as hot as they want. After a hurricane, the power was out in our town for 2 weeks. They have a microwave so it'll be faster.

[@K4113B4113]

The Spartans didn’t have a water heater and they turned out great😄

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Exactly, I had to boil water on a wood burning stove during power outrages last year. 3 months every other week, no power. From the start this broken water heater sounded like an excuse not a real problem.

[@cjstar01jones17]

I absolutely love that op sends them a Craig’s list for apartments. That was so nice of her and she really didn’t have to do it at all. That shows you how much she actually helps people

[@Canute87]

That ain't no friend. That was a parasite.

[@humbleebumblee]

I have a sweet older lady family friend who's like a grandmother to everyone. She wasn't able to live in her three story house for roughly 2 years due to her husband passing and being taken care of since she's legally blind (80%). She loves to work and stays very, she's a very classic Christian life style living woman in a good way. Anyway, she invited her houseworker she's known for some years to live in her house until they can get situated with moving and finding a home. Well, fast forwards to many months of her family living there and it seems they for some reason, got the bright idea that the sweet grandma wasn't coming home so they started renovating her home. The tore up a few walls, tore down one and some were in the process of being torn down. I don't remember why they left but they had left this lady's beautiful home in a mess. It was terrible to discover. It's since then been repaired but man, why do some people think they have more than they do in these situations? For context, this family didn't even have to pay for utilities, just small rent fees. That's it.

[@theonlyladybella44480]

People will reap what they sow

[@humbleebumblee]

honestly it wouldnt surprise me at all if something crazy happened to them after the insanity they pulled at that house.@@theonlyladybella44480

[@opalscloset]

our water heater was broken for two weeks, my parents asked family if we could come to SHOWER thats it.

[@kyle18934]

ikr... or even get a gym membership, free showers included with the membership. although with little kids, that could be problematic

[@moldyfrick]

Cold showers arent even that bad if they're infrequent tbh, I had no hot water for two weeks after a hurricane and it was much less miserable than anticipated

[@matteofazio7845]

just fix the fricking water heater ffs

[@opalscloset]

@@matteofazio7845 takes a lot longer than you think to actually get someone in to fix it

[@ToxicNeon]

​@matteofazio7845 some people dont immediately have the money to fix broken water heaters. Thats why some people have to wait until payday.

[@JackieOwl94]

I was told in the hospital by my husband’s commanding officer that I needed to die quickly because “Childless women aren’t cohesive to the military lifestyle. You need to either have a baby within the next 10 months or leave. I’m tired of seeing your face.” It hurt a lot because I found out I was infertile all along after choosing to be CF. I was still grieving my lack of choice.

[@jessikajane4967]

What sparked him to say that to you?!🤯

[@stephaniegalliart859]

Wut Not questioning the verity of any of this, nor siding with a dude who wanted you dead, but, I feel like there's a lot more context to this story and some other shit going on here, the puzzle pieces aren't adding up. Why would he say that? Why were you in the hospital? Why was your husband's CO visiting you in the hospital? Don't drop a gossip bomb like that and then leave us hanging. 😂😭

[@mordakie3805]

Wtf

[@naniness61]

GIRL WHAT? Why did the hell did he say say that 🤧 need abit more context

[@SilverLady52]

Right?? Spill...

[@Morgan24_7]

I had a "friend" like this. She had 2 kids. The first ones father died, the second child's dad just was a loser. She knew it, so no empathy here. She was on welfare. No money or food? I helped. No babysitter? I helped. Fell homeless. I helped. To say the least. She got a man and came at me with the " I'm in a relationship, and have kids. I should hang with people who are in relationships. People who have kids and can do couples things and family things. Her relationship fell apart. Guess who she called? Yea. No. Go get one of your friends in a relationship to take you and your kids in or give you rides and do favors for you. Unfortunately the oldest son died and she abandoned the second kid.

[@beatrizmedeirosnoleto9391]

You did the right thing, but i am so sorry for her children. What a trash of mother.

[@Morgan24_7]

@beatrizmedeirosnoleto9391 Really, it's sad. She did some stupid shit now that I look back. Last I knew, she moved in with her mom and met some guy online that was in prison....living in a gated community. Get it. She was talking about how wonderful this guy was, and she was gonna marry him. I said to her, "Why don't you wait until he gets out, travel back and forth from his state to ours for visits, introduce the kids to him to see how they get along first before you marry him. When I tell you, she all but cussed me out. "HOW DON'T I KNOW THAT!?! HOW DON'T I KNOW THAT?! Him and the kids talk on the phone! They like each other! They're excited to have a dad!!" On and on. She married him ONE WEEK after he got out of prison. She met him face to face on a Friday and married him that same Saturday. Paid for the wedding out of her welfare money. Talkin bout "HE better give me a daughter or he's fired!" I got an invitation to the wedding, but didn't go. I'm friends with her brother. Well...5 mos after they were married, her brother moved back to the state of California. He was staying at their moms house until he got a place of his own. He asked me to come visit. Her youngest son was 6 or 7 at the time. I hadn't seen him since he'd started walking. My friend brought the boy to me. He remembered me, too. The left side of his head was baby ass smooth. The rest of his hair was in patches! I asked. "WHAT HAPPENED?!?" All the uncle would say to me was "Abuse." NOBODY would tell me what this man had done to this boy! She came out the back of the house, saw me, and started laughing. Talkin bout "Girl I had to fire that nigga." I just looked at her. She had been diagnosed chemically imbalanced. The oldest son died at 18 like his dad. Hit by a train. She met some guy on a bus who was fresh out of prison. Took $5k from their mom, stole half a pound of some smoke from her brother (a friend gifted it to him when he moved back), and took the youngest son in the middle of the night on greyhound with this dang felon to another state. Now, she and the youngest son have no relationship, and nobody knows where she is. They boy asked his uncle (my friend), "Is my mom crazy?" I have no idea what that boy saw. He's in Vegas feeling unloved. It's crazy. My friend and his mother told that boy if he wanted to live with one of them he could. He braves it on his own. That's a long story short.

[@theonlyladybella44480]

​@@Morgan24_7that poor baby. Here I am child free. I would have taken him in.

[@lesliewit]

At this point it's not even about the kids. It's about the betrayal. I have two kids and can respect people's choices to not have children and can understand not feeling the need to clean up someone's mess when they couldn't bother to be there for you. Protect your energy!

[@q.t.gamingfamily]

I'm not childfree and I completely agree with you. The answer would be emphatically no. He told you that you were a bad influence on his children. You're still CF so you'd still be a bad influence to his children according to him. However, he's willing to let you be that bad influence now that he needs you? No, hell no. I back you 100%. Why do people think they can threaten you, talk shit about you and just be evil to you while demanding your help?! I'll never get that.

[@VeganLatte]

Imagine fucking over friends that were there for you when your parents passed.. wow just wow

[@jbgra2566]

To think she could have saved herself of all this drama if she had blocked him when the friendship ended

[@AutumnMoon23831]

True but sometimes friendships can be rekindled. No one can predict future drama issues like this lol.

[@ShapelessIsle]

This reminds me of the time an old friend tried to pull me into an MLM scam. When I called out his shit and told him I know it was MLM scam. He never contacted me again.

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

Dude did his research on you. That's kinda creepy. It's not often someone will seek out that much info, to see if it would work out and how he could phrase it everything he said so it would seem that you could do it easily and have no reason not to. One reason why it sucks to be a woman because some people love to walk all over women and our tendency to be caring for others.

[@craycray127]

I had a similar scenario: a friend got red pilled, shortly after marriage, (understandable), but he turned so paranoid and hostile that he pushed all of his single and non-child bearing friends away. The fallout occurred when he didn't want a couple around because they were "worldly" and child free. The couple found out, and the lady tried taking her life. They had 4 early stage pregnancies fail within the last three years. They told no one. The husband came to confront the friend for shaming his wife and the friend said to the husband, "that's what you get for harboring sin in your life." The man never said another word. Just left. A few days later it was found out that she tried to commit suicide. Our red pill christian domionist loudly proclaimed that they were living in sin and that this was the 4th miscarriage. The guy was cut off immediately. Cursed, blocked, and couldn't figure out why no one didn't want anything to do with him. We comforted our friends who miscarried.

[@hobovan.]

why are people so quick to: A. instantly claim reddit stories are fake because apparently, only completely mundane things are allowed to happen. B. complain about things that aren’t relevant to the story, adjacent at best. OP being child free doesn’t mean they’re the same as every child free person. most child free people are also probably way less concerned with you than you are with them.

[@MoleculesAndMinecraft]

IDK about B, but A is 100% a reddit issue coming over to visit YT. Reddit has a huge problem with people claiming everything is fake. They even have at least three subreddits dedicated to the issue: r/ThatHappened, for people who want to claim stories are fake, r/NothingEverHappens, for people who want to complain about very normal stories being accused of being fake, and r/SomeThingsDon'tHappen, for people who want to complain about stories that seem fake to them being accused of being not obviously fake on r/NothingEverHappens.

[@coolgamer2135]

@@MoleculesAndMinecraft Yeah I mean cmon this must be fake this reddit stories really get out of hand real fast.

[@mykieg7779]

Whenever the water heater broke or pipes froze, in our tiny NY apartment, We would just boil water and bathe in the tub. Its not that hard to find a away.

[@yujibell]

i remember a ex-friend like this.. when i was about to end our weird friendship, i asked why out of all people she asked to be hosted at my place when her ex kicked her out. she said she knew i had a big house and would host her if asked. keep in mind this was an acquaintance i've only met once before accepting her into my home.. i blocked her. givers, know your limits because takers have none.

[@takotako808]

As someone with kids. I will never ever ever put the responsibility of MY KIDS on someone else.... Except their mother of course 🤷. I cant stand people that think because they have kids they are entitled to things

[@andy-gamer]

Dave: your bad influence for not having kids Also dave: in medical debt from his 3rd child

[@DC-pm9lc]

''Seriously get yourself some tea''. Me who was drinking tea😂.

[@BIGBLOCK5022006]

Dave: "You're childfree, so you can let my family and I stay at your house, right?" Me: "I'm sorry, Dave. But I'm afraid I can't do that."

[@clarkclarke]

Glad you stood your group ... The guy just wanted to take advantage of you and your home ... He definitely had a plan ....

[@shizukagozen777]

My mom and I were so poor that our electricity and hot water were often turned off... If everytime it happened we had to live somewhere else, we would have had to definitely move to our relatives' place. 😅😂😂

[@NekoKuro-il8rz]

My parents, sister and nieces lived in a hotel for a year and a half. They couldn't get a house anywhere. They did whatever they could to keep my nieces (at the time they were 4 and 1) happy and content but also respectful of the other tenants. Some of those tenants actually became good friends with my family

[@degenerateangel6891]

"Waaaah, we don't have hot waterrrrr! My kids will sufferrrr!" Take a cold shower you baby. 🙄

[@vwgirl]

OP wasn't a "valuable" friend until Dave needed something. Where's all of Dave's better valued friends to help him?

[@EverydayGworl]

I’m not childfree but I see no problem with no letting ppl: family, friend, etc come into your personal space. It might seem selfish but you deserve your home not to be disturbed because it most definitely will be with 2 other adults and 3 kids, especially a newborn… your life will be flipped upside down. The extra noise alone will drive you up the wall. But idk why being childfree is a bad influence lmaooo…yikes on a bike😬

[@genericmodz]

If he couldn't look after the kids no matter what he should have thought about it before having them nobody to blame but himself

[@dillanharris6654]

Not all people with kids think that people that are child free are not on the same level of them these people are just freaking crazy😂

[@CyanidePusher]

So like when i was a kid we were really really ducking poor, so when our water heater went out, it was out for close to two years. My parents couldn't afford to have it fixed or replaced. So like...kettles? Boil some water on a stove? 😂 boil a few pots of water, add it to the bathtub, mix with cold water until desired temp? You can wash clothes in cold water? You will be ok? Maybe I'm wrong but while it absolutely sucks and is awful, there's a lot of modern appliances that you can actually survive quite fine without and i don't understand why a hot water tank being out is a home emergency that requires you to move your entire family out for an unextended period of stay? Am i wrong? 😂

[@rukiakuchiki6187]

Block him from your life

[@StillTicking2]

My petty ass would have him stay. Sign a contract, $2500 a week rent. Come on over Dave. Tenant Rights means, you must pay Rent to the Landlord lol. First and Last. $10,000 a month. Hire a moving company to take EVERYTHING out of the house. Law gets involved you have a signed contract stating everything. If for some reason he actually agrees (youd have to mentally challenged to agree to that) Hire a lawyer to make sure everything is good and that they cant wiggle theyre way out. Crazy? I was crazy once....

[@RandoWisLuL]

1:22 sammmeee. i get shit all the time for not wanting kids. People even went as far as saying there was something wrong with me lol

[@hehehehe1955]

Damn bro got a POT if hot tea😂

[@4kach24]

6:07 "I told him he was a bad influence in my life" A power move,girl!

[@TraciBinIT]

I chose not to have children and focused on my education and career. I built the life I wanted and I’ve had to put folks out of my house that were supposed to be there temporarily. Inevitably, the stay lasted well beyond the “getting their life together” and they tried to turn it into a permanent situation. I’ve had to put the last 2 folks in need on their feet and out of my house. I worked really hard to meet some major milestones in my life and I don’t feel guilty for not allowing anyone else to play house in my house with the family they created. It’s insane to ask relatives or friends for a short stay only to try to turn it into a permanent living situation. I won’t do it again, it’s too stressful and not worth spoiling the relationship.

[@Itz_squishypanda]

I’m fazed because my brother almost died of Lupus and I get to see more of people in his community and people like him getting help they need and deserve 3:01

[@Xara_K1]

Not me wanting Kate's story as well 😂. Yeah, dont let people who judge u close enough to get extra dirt. This lady is awesome

[@uhnschlek8827]

Everything in life has an expiration date. Some expiration dates are longer, some are shorter. Keep the bad seeds to a very very short expiration date. People: don't be afraid to cut people out of your life. What they were at one point isn't how they will stay. You, yourself are not stagnant. You change. So, accept that as a fact of life and don't hold onto to something that is no longer there. Childfree people are particularly susceptible to being taken advantage of. Beware!

[@rhiarebecca2000]

They said OP would be the bad influence when they’re the bad influences towards their own children and their children’s behaviour is just as bad as theirs🥴🥴

[@tjpowers88]

5:31 I love the OPs response to his social media threat.

[@yairehy]

People like this Dave person are burdens. Also... having a broken water heater doesn't mean he gets to move his whole family in for a couple of days. They could have just used the bathroom and returned to their house. He just wanted a new house at op's expense. Squatter rights shouldn't even be a thing. A lady lost her house for 2 years because some lunatic moved in while she was temporarily overseas helping family. Imagine coming back to find out you lost your house because of some stranger breaking in and just staying there.

[@megan00b8]

Squatters rights are absolutely dumb. You own the place, you get to choose who can stay.

[@mannydcbianco]

A friend once made the mistake of letting his borderline estranged younger brother and his family come stay for a while, while they were "between homes". The younger brother had been a mess his whole life. Not criminality, just laziness and entitlement. My friend had heard from other people that his brother had started fixing his life up when he became a father, so he decided to let him move in for a little while. At first the brother and his family were fairly well-behaved and didn't cause any major trouble. It was originally supposed to only be a few days, then turned into a couple weeks, and before you know it more than a month had passed. At that point, when more than 30 days had passed, by state law the brother and his family were considered residents and they couldn't be forced to leave anymore, without an official eviction. And that's when they stopped to even try to behave. They trashed the house (they didn't damage anything, but they trashed it through neglect and never cleaning up after themselves). It was 100% deliberate and planned. They behaved for long enough to get tenant's rights after 30 days, then they stopped caring, stopped trying, and just did whatever they wanted. My friend had to go through an official eviction process, which was made even more difficult because of the young children his brother and his wife had. It took almost three months to get them out, and it cost a lot of money to file and then enforce the actual eviction. The brother laughed when he finally left, escorted by police. He won. He and his family got to live for free in a nice house with all the amenities for a total of four months, and then they got to leave without cleaning up after themselves. A few things from the house went missing too after they left, almost certainly taken by the brother/wife/kids, but it was impossible to prove. Never let anyone stay in your house for an extended period of time unless you trust them completely and absolutely, or unless the local laws where you live doesn't grant the guests tenant's rights after a certain amount of time.

[@draco-dude]

if i was in that situation i would have told him "sorry, i thougt i was a bad influence and blocked him" 🤣🤣🤣

[@shizukagozen777]

There are so many super entitled people out there, that's scary ! Who tf they think they are ?? 🙄😒

[@microbialhexomorph8045]

"I watch how the moon Sits in the sky in the dark night Shining with the light from the sun And the sun doesn't give light to the moon assuming The moon's going to owe it one" - Linkin Park

[@13din]

His whole family sounds unbearable

[@thabsmkhize2481]

Oh I love a good OP with a head on their shoulders! ❤

[@redlegend7580]

If someone can afford the medical bills for having a baby, then they shouldn't. Your kids shouldn't suffer for your poor money management

[@Enriquez2222]

Everyone wants to leech off childfree women but don’t actually like that we are childfree 😂

[@dravenocklost4253]

What kind of sh!thole place lets a squatter stay for 7 days and have tenants rights, thats such an easily abused law?

[@alexm7777]

Probably California.

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

I would have said “Mmmmm I’m a bad influence on kids, remember? K bye” and left it at that

[@alondracarreno1376]

I don’t know about you all but I can live a couple of days without a water heater. my kids could too. I mean, just boil a big pot of water for baths and shit. not that hard

[@jamesgizasson]

Since when does not having hot water quantify as an emergency!? Take a cold shower... you'll still get clean. I consider myself to be a wimp, but I can't imagine how soft of a life you must have lived to try and pull this stunt! O^O EDIT: Ohhh, it's a scam. Yup. XD

[@fabianafagundezmuniz8119]

So happy that OP dodged that bullet

[@Meowz3r]

I’m a mother. You did the right thing. Not all parents are entitled jackasses. No one should make you feel guilty about not having kids. I’m happy I have my kids but I would never blame anyone who doesn’t want nor have them

[@LygarZeroX]

it was the father's responsibility to not piss off allies. pissing off allies and then coming into an emergency when you may potentially need said allies, that is just being a failure as a parent. Not only is it not your responsibility to not take care of kids that aren't yours, it can be argued that it is your responsibility to society to actively not help someone that spurns their allies especially if it means the suffering or death of the offspring. basic darwinism. those unfit should not survive. spurning allies makes one unfit.

[@ChadAV69]

He wants to relocate his whole family just because of a hot water heater? Just get it put in on credit it's like 3 grand ish.

[@kindlyoffer1350]

Wow, I've actually been looking for this story for a while! It's crazy this channel literally came out of nowhere.

[@EH001]

I am a mother of 2. Don't let people use their kids to use you. People will use their kids to pull on your heartstrings and try to manipulate you into doing things that you would not have done if it wasn't for the children.

[@mineandmine4528]

Facts ! My brother did this to our mom to convince her to disinherit me since I don’t have kids and my mother gave in.

[@kianna2530]

The audacity of some people wow.

[@kingtravis3540]

I would’ve drawn a hard line at the kids being mean to my dogs

[@hotshower695]

How is no hot water an emergency?

[@amythystmoon864]

How are you a bad influence you are child free? I can’t wrap my brain around that one.. that’s new.

[@extracrispycoop2552]

Misery loves company, people who chose to or just had kids can’t stand to see other people living their lives without tiny parasites Edit: SOME people

[@Seevawonderloaf]

You did a harsh thing but it was absolutely warranted! I had a friend exactly like this and I absolutely would have given in, to my detriment

[@EverydayGworl]

Not wanting to put in on food and groceries, with a family of 5, is CRAAAZZZYYY!

[@Dougy359]

Fun fact: you can receive last rights as many times as needed. It’s not about being dead it’s about being at risk of dying.

[@maysee2515]

That doesnt make it appropriate to do so when the people in question are telling you not to do it.

[@smorphous8928]

It’s bad that Dave and Shelly are complete narcissists but it’s worse how they try to make Op the bad guy for simply not helping them when Op doesn’t owe them any favours after they cut him off from the friendship for years and they had to audacity to only comeback when it benefited them.

[@Goblin_Girl]

Not having hot water isnt even an emergency??? Wtf hahaha

[@MoleculesAndMinecraft]

At least it's slightly emergent, unlike refusing to get an apartment because uhhh... oh, yeah, that's right, you're entitled to everyone's homes and groceries.

[@nightshade7405]

I think that guys mom would be rolling in her grave if she found out what kind of man he turned out to be!

[@purplbee4442]

W sister and friends

[@BloodRoseKitten]

Wow.... you know.... if you can't take care of your own kids.... maybe, don't have any.

[@samuelmaksimov3706]

New installed water heater is around $1000. All of that trouble because he didn’t want to swipe a credit card

[@sobruhkey]

With that many children, he's probably in debt already tbh. People with high liquidity don't tend to have many kids.

[@maeum_maeum]

Holy hell.. the entitlement