Former Lesbian Activist Calls “Soft” Christians to Repentance | Guest: Rosaria Butterfield | Ep 796

[@LalalandLizzy]

“You can’t put your sin on life support and kill it at the same time.” 🏆🏆🏆

[@murrismiller2312]

well SAID !!!

[@Elisha_she_bear]

Yes!!

[@lynnbaker2336]

Or good Christians can indoctrinate the collective societal psyche to believe that you sin is worthy of murder! Yaaaa!

[@ejr2002]

I pray that Rosaria's gentle testimony and research will reach many people for Jesus.

[@ddrse]

She fell for the original sin. Jesus already paid for the fall. This time it's a sin unto death. They're not going to crucify Jesus again. I would give her a wide berth.

[@janinevanreenen9470]

Agree. I have several daughters that need the Lord. Praying always for Christ followers with be on their paths each day.

[@erc9468]

@@ddrse They would crucify Jesus again if they had the chance.

[@ddrse]

@@erc9468 they make Christ of those they persecute. They're Christ makers not Christians.

[@Elijah24553]

I'm definitely not far in my journey, but her testimony has already helped my get to where I am.

[@wanishaw9408]

Thanks so much for this great interview. I am a mother who is standing my ground against my own daughter who has decided that she is transgender. I refused to call her by any other pronoun other then what she was born as. I’m so sick of what is happening to my daughter. I’m praying that she comes to her senses soon. To God be the Glory.

[@jeffdavis7543]

Let's pray for this trans daughter.

[@kathietreachler5662]

Amen!! Same situation here. Heartbroken. Daughter so angry that I will not call her my son. Love her so much. Will pray for both of these young women. God is bigger than the lies so many young people are believing. ❤

[@Bertrussell396]

Good for you, don’t give up- it’s real Love to tell your child the Truth in a world full of lies.🙏💗 I used to be confused and my family never wavered in Truth or Love for me, they refused my nonsense & it made me More open minded and got me thinking differently from the Liberal rhetoric I had been taught at college.

[@michelerowland8045]

I pray she finds her way…

[@Not_a_witch]

I’d encourage you to investigate whether or not she was sexually abused. Or if she has some reason to resent the church

[@chrishanson1631]

I just went from agnostic to an unsactified believer. I simply mentioned my journey to my family and close friends. They all treated me with immediate disrespect and judgement. It was eye opening witnessing that rejection. Makes me more of a believer. I can only repent and hope he forgives me and offers his grace.

[@christoffesedao3579]

Bless you Chris 🙏 . . . Yes, rejection is common when you start seeking and actually living out the Truth. Jesus even says in scripture family members will be against family members because of Him. So just know that it’s okay even though it feels raw and unnecessary. While dying on the cross Jesus said to the Father “forgive them, they know not what they do”. He was speaking about those who were killing and insulting Him. Rejection is the first instinct of man when their sinful nature is confronted with Truth. Mankind is fallen and does not understand the things of the Spirit. The Gospel is counterintuitive to our fallen sinful nature. But praise be to God we are saved by Grace, and not by our intellect or good deeds. I strongly urge you to read as much scripture as you can everyday. The Word of God is living. The Holy Spirit and The Word will guide you and strengthen your walk with Christ. Pray to the Father through Jesus and ask for His help and you will lack nothing. He loves you so much. Blessings ✝️🙏✝️ Matthew 4:4

[@ClansmanK]

My experience was the same. It was like my family was possessed all of a sudden. A real invasion of the body snatchers deal. It took but a short while and I realized they never changed. It was I that changed. They still had the same old antichrist spirit I grew up with. I have a new Spirit and it is their enemy they believe. Welcome aboard new sibling!!

[@bobtaylor170]

Aaron, I'm so sorry you went through that. Please don't let the bad behavior of some people turn you away from God. Read Romans, chapter 1. It points out that the fact of the Universe makes disbelief in God inexcusable. Paul gets into who Jesus is in that chapter, but for a more comprehensive portrait of who Jesus is, what He has done, and why you must trust in Him, please read The Gospel of John.

[@Chey60]

You don’t have to hope He forgives you He forgave you when you repented and accepted believed on Him as savior!

[@MiCasaMoments]

Since day one you repented, God (Jesus) forgot it. Now you need to do the same and "sin no more " says the Lord. God bless your life and walk focused towards the Kingdom.

[@LeslieKnope4Pres]

I have been one of these soft Christians! I used to be quite bold in my faith and would speak out on issues often, not concerned with how people viewed me. Then I lost some very close friends due to my beliefs during the 2016 elections and it hurt me deeply. I’m still hurt by it. I’ve become a shell of my former self in terms of defending my faith, and haven’t spoken out on anything in years because I don’t want to lose anymore friends. I love and respect Rosaria so much, I want to be as fervent as she.

[@jondordal4411]

Godly repentance is a beautiful thing. Thank you for your humility. May God strengthen you to stand boldly for what is right in these dark days, counting it a blessing to be reviled for his name's sake. May you grow in caring for what he thinks more than what others think, and may you find your fulfillment in pleasing him. Be strong and courageous, for he is with you!

[@AEChronicler]

Such humility is a blessing from God dear friend. Now it's not always easy to defend our faith, but it is worth it. Please know that you're not alone in this.

[@tinamariejohnson7520]

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@saraz9017]

God bless you friend. I know the pain. ❤ get some Bible tracts and leave them around maybe? Just something that helps me. ❤

[@maplenook]

Make new ones

[@mrs.garcia6978]

She helped me decades ago when I cut out sexual immorality off my new life in Christ. She continues to help me. I’m appreciative. I was healed by Christ from homosexuality and all other forms of sexual immorality Praise be to God.

[@NickyM_0]

Amen!🙏🏿❤

[@karinadoshi3950]

it’s okay to be gay. i’m sorry you felt like it was shameful. it’s not.

[@lynnbaker2336]

​@karinadoshi3950 Thank you! The description of homosexuality as a lifestyle is a blatant oversimplification of human sexuality in general and homosexuality in particular. Such indoctrination of the collective societal psyche is paramount to both the formation and maintenence of the self validating delusion of heterosexuality possessing moral validity. The reason that we never hear the term " heterosexual lifestyle " is because there is no need to categorize heterosexuality with such descriptively inherent connotative oversimplification in order to subconsciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective ( and, therefore, contextually unfair and invalid) comparison. While such complex reality is certain to come with a threat to the subjectively comparative sense of moral superiority of many, such is the cost of growth demanded by truth.

[@e.y.3336]

It's beautiful with Allie and now with Rosaria, God raising up more women to preach the gospel of Christ Jesus.

[@2Peter3Nine]

"The only place to stand right now is at the foot of the cross, so come join us!" What a beautiful talk. Wonderful women thank you both hostess and guest.

[@SquareNoggin]

This woman has some really dope interviews with Beckett Cook as well IIRC. But I've followed her across multiple podcasts, she's got lots of insights. I can't tell you how stoked I am to be able to have found all these properly orthodox Christians online who set me on a path of really starting to understand this religion. I grew up going to the United Church of Canada, and man oh man was I misled by all their false teachings...

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

Yeah I first heard of her on Becket Cook.

[@amandazplace5663]

Same. Raised in the United Church. Well....on Sundays only.🤔♥️🇨🇦

[@carolejackson8357]

What is the United Church of Canada in a general sense? Just the name suggests a gutted government run form of religion that denies the deity and power of the Holy Spirit through Christ.

[@ONEFAITHofJESUS]

Most people professing Christ have never even obeyed the Gospel. The faith once delivered to the saints(devout Jews) in Jerusalem, 1st Century AD looks nothing like institutional churchianity that most associate with the term Christian. John 3:3-5 = Acts 2:38-39🎁 👦 👧

[@TexasHoosier3118]

@@ONEFAITHofJESUS Unless you personally know the majority of Christians in the world, you are making a baseless accusation. Do not bear false witness. Saint does not mean devout Jew. Jew and Gentile are alike in Christ. Most of the opposition to the early church was by devout Jews.

[@marilynphillips776]

Rosaria you are so authentic and praise God that you are calling those to repentance who are falling for this Trojan horse in the church. Amen, Christ’s gospel is our only way and His truth is our only liberty!!!

[@thorpeaaron1110]

If God brings liberty I'd rather be a slave than worship that narcissist

[@martinkent333]

SO, NO EDUCATION EH? NORMAL PEOPLE TYPE BIBLE CRITICISM ONLINE AND LEARN THE BIBLE IS FICTION AND THE HEBREW MYTHS ARE MYTHS, STUPID. HOW GULIBLE ARE YOU, MARILYN?

[@kaziimtiazahammad1928]

It does not make any sense how a man can be the God?

[@WendyWzOpinion]

“The only safe place to stand right now is at the foot of the cross!” -Rosaria Butterfield Amen!!!!

[@baileycordle2600]

At minute 35 we need a short of just that!! You are never too far gone for Christ’s blood to completely cover you and make you clean. Inspiring and encouraging episode, once again! Thank you both.

[@kaziimtiazahammad1928]

Dear Sister please read holy Quran in your language which is from Almighty God is the complete solution for mankind. No one will go to heaven without accepting Islam which is only the way of life. Otherwise hellfire will be the permanent destination for the disbelivers hereafter. JESUS (peace be upon him) is the messenger of Almighty God but not God. Please research in KZbin and find the truth of Islam in your life

[@UrSisterinChrist12]

Ik you mean well but Jesus Christ is the son of God and God himself. In all the 4 gospels he says so himself. "Before Abraham was born, I am" "I am the way an the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except thru me" Jesus Christ is so much more then just a prophet ❤️☦️

[@UrSisterinChrist12]

Bless you❤️ I hope you find the peace that is Jesus Christ.

[@kebakaba362]

i love how often rosaria uses the word “repent.”

[@NickyM_0]

Exactly!

[@joelbuzbee1750]

Me too - don’t hear that much anymore in most churches.

[@Ameydusa1]

I am only a little ways in and I am already inspired. I am not homosexual, but I am a therapist and reformed liberal minded “spiritual” person who struggles with how to properly guide people when I have the opportunity and also how to date as a single 54 year old divorced woman who wants to save sex for marriage. Rosario’s situation was FAR more challenging … and i always love seeing intelligent, passionate women embracing Jesus ❤

[@brianbard3846]

Go get your god given female sexual groove on. Enjoy your life and never doubt yourself in the face of someone who would shame you down in following your loving self.

[@estellevanvuuren8704]

I was married for 22 years and then my husband decided to leave us because he is gay. The last 6 years have been difficult, because we are Christians and how to explain to my 2 teenagers that homosexuality is a sin and we can not affirm it, but that we love him as a person. God has brought us through many challenges and still do daily, but it will always be difficult messy thing in our life's that we have to deal with. He has moved in with a partner and want us all to just get along, but I will never approve this relationship. He is a lovely generous person, but I trust God and His Word above all men and emotions. and like she said, it is about saving his soul for eternity. I will share this video with my now young adult children, to empower them as well, Thank you very much.

[@saynotoh2o747]

"I trust God and His Word above all men and emotions" So God has spoken to you? Personally, one on one? Or...have you been reading one of the many versions and translation of his supposed word written down by men, which you then interpreted influenced by the culture you live in, after which you had a talk with yourself inside your head and then you felt better so you figured you must've just interacted with an omnipotent entity? But no, the people who request that you address them by their preferred pronouns or who fall in love with someone of the same sex are the delusional ones, clearly.

[@B.A.B.G.]

I apologize for the other commenter's words, know that I'll be praying for you. And don't let someone who is mocking you deter you or shake your faith. God still delivers people from this possession in 2023. If you want I can show you a testimony of how within a single moment he turned such a man like yours although not married from going down to going up again.

[@saynotoh2o747]

@@B.A.B.G. Who are you to be apologizing for my words? These are my believes. You're confusing refusal to engage in 'religion hospitality' with mocking.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I'm very sorry, Estelle, that you and your family have to go through this painful time of separation. Just know that most of us who see you sharing this painful burden fully empathize and we'll be praying.

[@dbirdez]

@@saynotoh2o747 All versions and translations have been written/translated by man ---- inspired men --- read the preface of the 1911 KJV and their attestation ; to castigate one searching , I would say search your heart . Peace

[@christophercoughlin9493]

One of the most interesting things in the bible is beginning to find how closely related the new and old testament are to each other, and how they both point directly to Christ. It's actually amazing when you read these passages for yourself and make the connections.

[@PLUCare]

So happy to see Rosaria on Relatable Allie. I am a Christian with unwanted same-sex attractions and her testimony has impacted me so much. She is such a powerful voice for the Lord in the area of sexuality. Thanks for having her on your show! I am so encouraged and I pray that many will be encouraged. As you shared, she is definitely an amazing vessel of what the gospel does and the redemption that the Lord offers for the broken.

[@sharonhoward884]

And there it is! You admit that wanted or not, if you are LGBTQI it is there, it is inherent, you can't choose not to feel the way you do. You can say you hate that about yourself but you can't "make it go away" No one can. I completely disagree that there is any such thing as a "former" lesbian, gay man etc. If there is, then there must also be "former" straight people. Sexuality is a spectrum, we are all on it.

[@carolejackson8357]

@@sharonhoward884 the key is that no matter our sexual orientation, we submit our all to God through Christ. We all arrive into a broken world since before birth. There are lesbians and homosexual who have experienced a transformation. I know some of them. The only opposite sex person they ever desired was the one who became their spouses. And, some celibate, not by choice, heterosexuals have been delivered from promiscuous lifestyles into adventurous fulfilling lives as singles. Unless you cross the line yourself into that dynamic love relationship with God through Christ and the empowerment of the Holy Spirit, you will never understand. EVERYTHING on earth pales in relationship to the magnificence of walking with the living God. It goes so far beyond just a set of religious beliefs.

[@emmayanaauguli2228]

@@sharonhoward884 if you are thinking from a human stand point then your thoughts create your reality. And if from a Christian point of view which is the mind of Christ, then it is not so. The Bible which is believed to be true by Christians thinks this about sin. We are born with sim because Adam and Eve sinned. So yes, inherently we are born with sin and so we have no power over who we are. But that is not how God created us to be when He created humans. Sin entered the world and now humans are slaves to it. Slaves don't have a choice, you naturally find yourself gay and unless you are set free from that sin you will die gay, we are selfish and liers and etc etc the list of short coming is too long thus the saying "i am only human." Now since God did not create us to be sinful nor desires us to remain so, He came to set us free from this jail that we can't get out of on our own. If you ever study the Bible, you will see that God desires something else for us and it is not slavery to sin. Why does He call it sin, 1. It is against His original design. Since God - Yahweh created the world, He had an ideal for it and going against that ideal does not work in the long run and does not bring the best for us either. We live for today, God lives for eternities and His views are not constrained by time. Now you may not believe in the existence of this God nor any other gods. And so you may not subscribe to the thinking of sin nor slavery to sin. I am not going to say it is ok. I think one should really search for how life came to be and examine deeply all argument available in order to avoid being wrong, which is eternally very dangerous. Now stating that we are born in sin and are slaves to it, this is were Jesus comes in to set us free. By believing in Him we are set free from our natural inclination to sin or lesbianism or sex outside marriage or alcoholism or lying or selfishness etc.etc. When we believe in Him, our spirits which are born dead are made alive by His Spirit known as the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit now lives in us giving us power to overcome this nature of sin. Galatians 5 says when we live by the SPIRIT we won't gratify the desires of the flesh. The human is a 3 part being, a spirit, a soul and a body. The soul being the will, mind and emotions. Now the spirit in a man is born dead and then can be born again and come alive once a person believes in Christ. Yet that does not mean the emotions and thoughts and desires of the soul and flesh have changed. Here is were the word of God that transform our thinking into thinking like how God thinks and the power of the Holy Spirit to overcome our sinful flesh comes in. I am not sure if i have managed to explain the whole born with a nature to go against God and His power to overcome that and live for Him and like Him. You can choose to keep on living in a sinful nature because it makes you happy. But i hope that one day The Holy Spirit ministers to you on how wonderful it is to live in godliness and holiness and the benefits it has in this life and that which is to come. Wishing you all the love and happiness and joy dear one. Blessings.

[@carolejackson8357]

@@emmayanaauguli2228 great explanation. I would clarify that worldly thoughts create our own of reality. In truth, it is not reality at all. The trans movement only magnifies what is true for all of us left to our own confusion. God's truth is almost too amazing to grasp. When we realise how fallen we are, we walk humbly embarking on a journey to follow God's ways which is so much higher than our own, that we could never considered ourselves better than others who don't yet see the pitfalls of their own, self-made distortion of reality. In 1977, God led me to a little church with many Christ followers. They lived their lives in ways that exhibited the empowerment and the fruit of Holy Spirit. I never saw such joy and childlike lack of inhibition to be who God created them to be. It's not a contrived cookie cutter religiosity as some might think. I thought they gave God too much credit for a whole lot of things. But they winsomeness drew me to study scripture and seek the Living God for myself. He met me where I was at with the most amazing invitation into a wholy and holy accepting relationship. Yet called me and empowered me to a better life. When taking a deep dive into homosexuality and other sexual sins, we often discover sexual abuses in ones youth which is an injury to the person impacting them for the rest of their lives. Regardless, sin simply means missing the mark. And we are, as though described, born into a sinful, broken world. All sin is a bondage that weighs us down making us less than what we could ever hope to be. Christ is the antidote for sin. He lifts us higher than we could ever hope to be. We see that innate sin in all of us. Children do not need to be taught to lie or take things from others that does not belong to them. It is in their nature. We must learn how to walk in truth and all the freedoms God affords us. The illusion is that sin is freedom . The truth is God's ways are freedom and joy and peace that passes all understanding. It's not that Christianity doesn't work, it's that so few people do not apply it, especially here in the USA where we have so many distractions. Even so, personal faith in a living God is one of the first things attacked when communism invades a country. People of faith are not easily controlled. Freedom in Christ is real.

[@georgewagner7787]

Just bc they can't make it go away, doesn't mean no one can. You can't extrapolate from one to everyone

[@mguerramd]

I have a family member who is SO much like the old Rosaria. There is no way I can say anything to her about this without her throwing up a wall of defensiveness and anger. I pray every day that the Holy Spirit will come over her in the way that Becket Cook described. It's so hurtful to think she won't be with us in eternity, I grieve terribly.

[@georgewagner7787]

Keep praying. Look what happened with Beckett Cook

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

Becket was reading a prayer that he found that his mother typed out. He described how his mother didn't try and talk to him about his lifestyle when he was in it. She just loved him and prayed.

[@ruthmcculloch4056]

Every Christian, every day, needs to drive a fresh nail into their favorite sin. I’m paraphrasing. That is incredibly pointed and powerful.

[@dedraburnett3086]

Agreed!!!

[@gummylens5465]

"Pointed," you say? Haha I see what you did there.

[@kaziimtiazahammad1928]

Who is your God? Please read holy Quran in English version to find the truth in your life. This is not true path which one you guys are following?

[@Kassadinftw]

@@kaziimtiazahammad1928 Our God is the one who loves His enemies, rather than striking them at the neck.

[@saynotoh2o747]

@@Kassadinftw Clearly. He let the Holocaust happen for one.

[@monicajoy3088]

Wow so grateful for Rosaria and her work! I relate to her testimony so much. I was a feminist, pro LGBTQ activist, and Marxist for a decade. I identified as bisexual and had sexual feelings towards men and women since I was molested at a very young age. I was a believer in high school but left the church in rebellion over its stance on homosexuality and gender roles and I got introduced to feminist academics in college. The Lord radically encountered me in the darkest time of my life with his love. He has taken me on an inner healing journey and deliverance. He opened my eyes to the truth of the spirit world and the darkness in this "woke" political landscape. Now I can proudly say I am a child of God covered in the righteousness of Jesus and I am not ashamed of the Gospel that saved my life! That is my identity!

[@yarbroughpianostudio2190]

I would like to hear from Rosaria every day. She always brings the focus right back to the reality of the Gospel.

[@tanyabaker4809]

This episode was straight 🔥. Rosaria has now moved to the top of my list of favorite speakers/authors. I've sent this on to several people. She is the voice I've been craving. People who will stand up and speak the truth and encourage us to do the same. It also encourages me to look at our church and for my husband and I to meet with our church pastors and just ask them some very pointed questions.

[@DogDocLou]

I am strongly considering sending this to the pastor of our church, who hosted Preston Sprinkle last year, and asking for prayerful consideration and response (and hopefully repentance).

[@rachelzuniga5300]

Wow! Gossip is Probably my worst sin. I need to pray everyday to kill that sin.

[@lisag9442]

She's fantastic! I could listen to Rosario for hours.

[@stephenrgentry]

Sister Butterfield - Thank you for your testimony and witness of Christ. Your perspective on sin is refreshing and absolutely true. God bless your mission.

[@kakiskorner3937]

Amen, Rosario…continue to preach His Word in the forthright, honest and loving way you do! I’m thankful that you’re my sister in Christ!!! Praise our Father🌟!

[@lydiabouts8572]

Rosaria is a hero. What a beautiful testimony.

[@helenahageman7669]

Grace it is..

[@kaziimtiazahammad1928]

Indeed there is no other God except Almighty Allah who is one and everliving and only the creator of every single thing. JESUS ( peace be upon him) is the messenger of Almighty God but not God.

[@kaziimtiazahammad1928]

Please read holy Quran which is from Almighty God to find all the solution of your questions?

[@simonacantarella3464]

There are No heros in the Kingdom of God. Just sinners saved by Grace.

[@gisselherrera7490]

Her theology is real strong! God bless her ❤

[@benmcfarren6337]

praying for you

[@helendeacon7637]

What an important conversation in this season - it is so timely. So true that we cannot and must not support sin and pay lip service to mortifying sin. So true about the "soft presence" deception. We have that here in Australia too : the foundations have indeed shifted. Obergerfell, 2015 has made a huge difference - the centre isn't there now. Thank you for sobering and necessary Bible based insights. We have to go into battle wearing the whole armour! Thank you so much ,Allie Beth, for interviewing Rosaria Butterfield!

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

We just have to find the balance w/ this. I'm grateful I don't live in a circle where pronouns are coming up all the time. It comes up occasionally when dealing w/ the government and having to do a questionnaire. If I am asked directly what gender I identify as and what pronouns I use, I try and very gently say I'm female, and if they ask which pronouns, I just repeat, I'm female. It feels like a gentle pushback, w/ no harsh lecture.

[@MajorExpo]

Just wow. A truly beautiful woman and Grace shines from her.

[@signpost5596]

I just came across this channel. WOW! What an enlightening, encouraging, and convicting interview. It's better than some sermons I heard. I will listen to it again to wrap my head around some of the contents. Rosaria's testimony is a perfect example of the power and triumph of the gospel. Kudos to this channel for shinning light into this dark world. May God bless you both greatly 🙏

[@realchrisma]

I’ve never heard of “soft presence” before, but I have heard of standing firm. Galatians 5:1, Ephesians 6:13.

[@41093AnthonyB]

Rosaria Butterfield has always been an inspiration to me. However, I have never agreed with her views on "conversion therapy" (a term we NEVER took for ourselves) and on her use of preferred pronouns. I am so blessed to see her change her position on both. Her humility in admitting she was wrong is so encouraging. Aren't we ALL in the process of sanctification? In my own experience, I was very distant from my violent alcoholic father. When I was four years old, I began to be sexually molested from someone whom I admired and whom should have been a protector. This abuse lasted over ten years. During this time, I developed feminine characteristics. I was made fun of at school. And I LONGED to be more masculine. I also craved approval from men, particularly my dad. I didn't get it. I yearned for affection from a man. The only affection I received was from my abuser. Eventually this longing to be more masculine and to have masculine physical affection became my idol. I wanted masculinity more than anything. And then I started having sexual encounters as a high school student with various men. Does that sound familiar? It's the pattern found in Romans 1... The Lord miraculously convicted me after I was in college. After an anonymous encounter in a public bathroom, I FINALLY realized I was a sinner. Call me a slow learner. I repented. He forgave me. And He made me a new creature. Now it wasn't like a magic wand that suddenly made me straight. But I had repented of homosexual sin. I saw temptation as Satan's way of trying to get me whereever the strong hold was in my previous life. Fast forward, God led me to a beautiful wife. We have been married 36 years next month. We were blessed with 11 children (from thinking I was gay to being dad to 11 children?? Don't tell ME God doesn't have a sense of humor!). We also just had our 24th grandchild. Not everyone who repents of homosexual sin will be led to marriage. And being married is NOT a litmus test over whether or not we have been delivered from this sin. But I never would have been able to be married and had a family if I had not surrendered to His will. So what about masculinity? How the Lord has taken me through progressive sanctification on that one! Initially I only wanted to hang out with girls. I was comfortable with them. But I longed to be more manly. The church I joined encouraged reserve between the sexes and so I was somewhat socially forced to hang out with the brothers. That was the best thing that ever happened. I began to be comfortable with them. But I wanted to hang out with the ones whom I thought were most "masculine". Then I met Sy Rogers at Exodus International. At first, I couldn't stomach him (I can't BELIEVE I felt that way, I'm so ashamed now). As Sy himself said, many men with same sex attractions give out little signals that let people know they have SSA. Sy-- he wore a banner sign. But as he also said on the Phil Donahue show, "Brother, I am LIGHT years away from panty hose!" I began to really listen to Sy. This man whom I originally thought was feminine began to teach me what biblical masculinity really is. He was a leader. He was bold in standing for what was right. He courageously followed God at high cost and high reward. He entered a relationship with a woman, whom he later married, even though he was fearful. He protected her and their beautiful daughter. And he PREACHED. Oh my he preached. He passed away in 2020,but look him up and tell me if he isn't one of the most godly men you have ever listened to! Today, all of my close friends are men. My two closest friends in the world are two men who know all about my broken past, have never struggled with homoesexual sin themselves, and yet love me anyway. From makiing an idol out of men, to being called out of that darkness into His wonderful light. That's the kind of God we have.

[@arleenonlife3628]

Thank you Rosaria and Allie. My daughter is calling herself non binary and convincing my son that he is to transition to being a woman (he is 16), You have given me hope and courage. I called her by her "new name" for a while and when she wanted me to do the pronouns, I refused feeling like I was being controlled and lying. Now I only call her darling when I see her briefly. She won't speak to me and now my son is speaking about becoming a woman when he is 18. I fight in prayer. I trust Jesus implicitly. I am in pain for their rejection, not of me, but of my Lord.

[@blueizumi]

Good for your kids! Hope once your trans daughter is 18 she’s able to pursue her transition, and it’s nice that their older sibling is such a great supporter of her

[@truthinlovemama]

I’m sorry your family is going through this. God is in control and is patient, wanting all to come to repentance. Keep praying for your children to turn to God rather than the lies of the world. I hope they will see the truth before they damage themselves too much. God used my sin and its consequences to humble me. Some of us need to hit rock bottom to accept His saving grace. I was almost 30 when I finally surrendered to God. It’s never too late! God bless you and your children 🙏🏻

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

What a painful struggle, to see your kids going through this. They are rejected their very selves for who they are. This terrible relativist movement has shaken their foundations to where there is no truth and standard now. Keep praying, and keep seeking encouraging testimonies. There are so many detransition testimonies now. Some of them are Christian too. Lots of trans regret. I hope your son and daughter see some of these stories before it's too late and before hormones and surgery has done permanent damage. I really don't want to scare you further, because it must be such a struggle to stay strong. God is our strength.

[@rodb66]

I pray that your kjds snap out of this delusion. The trans trend is promoted aggressively to kids now through mainstream media, social media and online.

[@bonniekeen]

Bless you Rosaria for your courage and clarity on these difficult issues. For those standing on the Word of God without compromise with our adult children, loving them while being immoveable about these details your testimony is rich medicine. God bless you Allie for this insightful, bold interview.

[@betzaidadurkin2694]

"For with God nothing will be impossible.”

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Proof of God?

[@ohcrapitsher380]

@Betzaoda Durkin: don't reply them. They're not looking for "proof", they're looking to argue. "People" like them like to go on Christian channels and start trouble. But claim we're the problem. They throw rocks and hide hands. Smh

[@georgewagner7787]

Look at the sky

[@johnbrown4568]

Dr. Butterfield is a courageous Christian.

[@carolejackson8357]

Where is Dr. Butterfield? Full name?

[@LoriLev1107]

Thanks for having Rosario on! She's one of the brave truth tellers!

[@Fizbin1701]

This is wonderful and so encouraging. I was never gay, but I was a liberal atheist that supported the LGBT community, for over 40 years. But in the last year, I had a proper turnaround. I'm now a proud conservative Christian who is strongly against the LGBT community. I'm still trying to move past my horrible decisions and stances of the past.

[@rodb66]

I too was liberal to a point that I was more complacent about the LGBTQ but with all this promotion no matter where you turn even to kids, I've become more militant against it. I'm still a Democrat but I am a Christian so I do accept a lot of liberal ideologies. When I was a little more open to humanism, that's when I fell for the deceptions.

[@AaronArmstrong-jf9pl]

Detransioned convert here to say God is so GOOD! I felt there was no way out of my life in sin, and yet through his son God showed me a way to be whole in his light. I love you all, and so does God. Praying for those who are ‘gender confused’🙏

[@christianpitman5185]

What a great interview. Rosario is so powerful in her testimony and speaks such truth that we all need to act on.

[@baysidesue]

What a wonderful interview! I love how Rosaria ended it..."at the foot of the Cross" ❤

[@skyboxstudios777]

Rosario ur a voice crying out in the wilderness bringing people back to repentance! Praise God!!

[@Lady-Saturn]

Thank you, Sister Allie, for setting up this interview with Sister Butterfield!

[@dianeellison1790]

Great word! I'm going to share this with my daughter whose son is attending a 'woke" high school.

[@aaronlevitt6820]

Man, Rosaria Butterfield gets it. There's a myth going around this country that Christianity excludes certain types of people who identify as this or that. Actually, it only excludes the proud (Luke 18:9-14). God welcomes all who deeply recognize their own insufficiency, and humbly reach out to Him in faith (Luke 7:36-50; John 6:68). He will then change them so they can become conformed to Him: "Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us." (Romans 5:1-5)

[@christoffesedao3579]

Exactly. Believers must preach the Gospel and reveal God’s love to all because Jesus is all inclusive. He invites ALL people to His Kingdom, ESPECIALLY the lost and confused sinners. And if they need transformation He will transform them as they draw closer to Him.

[@aw6707]

Rosaria, thank you! Praise be to God for your incredible testimony and work. You have encouraged and helped and inspired me in an unparalleled gospel-centric fashion. Your life honors God and we are so privileged to share in it with you. May God richly bless your new book and I cannot wait to read it.

[@susanvandermerwe2881]

Thank you so much for this amazing interview; I hung on every word. God Bless your ministry Allie.

[@laneyoftheshire]

Rosaria explains everything with such grace and clarity. And like she says, these are such good principles for everyone! I especially loved hearing her perspective on prayer and good being punished when evil is allowed. Honestly gets me teary-eyed to hear her story and see how she is relating to all people for the glory of Christ.

[@staceykudera8558]

I'm going through exactly what this woman has. I've lived as a lesbian 17 years and Christ told me recently I need to change. So I did. Took about 3 years of a struggle but I left my old lifestyle. God works wonders and will provide if you seek Him.

[@hephep7426]

So agree with you Rosario!!! I'm a public school teacher in an indigenous remote community. We actually still have the Lord's Prayer in school every morning!!!! I was chaperoning a school trip with one other teacher and two students. On boy and one girl who thinks she trans.(was sexually abused) I knew this girl from Bible camp too and she made a profession of faith and was baptized. But that very fall she had started to socially transition. So on this trip as we roomed together I was praying for an opportunity to say something but also was being cautious as if I upset her she had nowhere to go as we were in the city. I don't know if i did the right thing. I did make sure she visibly saw me do my devotions in the morning hoping she may ask. 😢 please pray for her and me to do tye right thing!

[@Jessicad9304]

I love the importance she puts on and responsibility she takes for repentance. Would love to see more public figures in the church take a similar stance.

[@karennolt3325]

Thank you for having Rosaria on. Have learned so much from her and her books. Love that she speaks TRUTH.

[@amandazplace5663]

"I could talk to you for so much longer." I could listen to Rosaria for SO MUCH LONGER! Smart lady. Thank you, ladies, for this video. 🥰♥️🇨🇦

[@marisabullock3065]

God bless these ladies. I loved the conversation & I heard something I needed to hear personally that I’ve been struggling with. I have been praying for some miracle transformation of my heart, and Rosaria said I needed to pray to crucify daily my sins. I have an active responsibility to be accountable and make the choice to choose to do what I know God says is correct. It’s a two way street, when I’ve been thinking it’s a one way. Please pray for me to choose Christ and follow the narrow path that leads to the wide gate, brothers and sisters 🙏

[@JesusLovesTheLost]

I hear what you're saying and I have been doing the same. We have to be active in are fight to overcome sin, and that we are accountable to apply what God says in His Word if we want to see good fruit grow in our life. I heard yesterday that it isn't addiction that causes us to sin, but what we choose to believe. If I we believe the Power of God has Sovereignity over our life, sanctification, and Holiness then we won't give in to the sin that is worth so much less then our peace of mind, good standing before the Lord, and our eternity with Jesus. The example given by John Piper was with a man thinking (believing) he's addicted to porn, and can't help but give in. He said that if we believe the stakes are high then our self control will kick in. He said if someone broke into his house and took captive his wife and told him "If you look at that porn on your computer I will slit your wife's throat." The husband would easily be able to resist for something as important as this. How much more important is our eternity with God.... It's a battle every day, but God has given us all the tools and wisdom to fight the good fight of faith. I pray we work with God and become transformed by the renewing of our minds, so that someday we get to hear "Well done my faithful servant, I welcome you home to the Kinydom." God bless you sis!

[@DogDocLou]

Allie thank you so much for hosting Rosaria, and Rosaria, thank you for sharing your testimony and being bold for Christ! You glorify God with this message. And I love that as I was listening, I realized this same message is so applicable for the Christian pro-life abolitionist message. “You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” ‭‭James‬ ‭4‬:‭4‬

[@Lady-Saturn]

34:57 to 36:24 perked my eyebrows up! I was in my living room cheering on Miss Butterfield! From the making the distinction between Christians who want to go to heaven and those who live their lives in a way that says they do not though they believe they are going just because they call themselves Christian and not follow ALL of God's word. Matt 7:21-23 & 1 Cor 5:11 where Paul expresses that there are those who are "so-called" Christians. The most powerful part was of course, where she expresses how Jesus Christ can bring us out of any sin where we feel life is over and renew our lives, Amen!

[@susanhalbedel9605]

Excellent Rosario!! Looking forward to reading your books! You’ve helped me so much. Praying for you in this battle.

[@sarahm9723]

I've got to order Rosaria's books. She's brilliant and her truth and honesty resonates!

[@ruthwilson1647]

Very thankful for what God did for this woman.

[@applemac100100]

Rosario Butterfield is an absolute gem and pure gold.

[@laurenkwarren]

Oh my goodness, I love Rosaria Butterflied!!!!

[@margerybloom6544]

Praise Jesus! Blessings to you Rosario, and Allie .... so much truth ... in these days and times!

[@umbluegray1]

Rosaria, Allie Beth... what a GREAT discussion. What struck me most, Rosaria, is the evidence of the transformative power of Christ in the life of one who was engrossed in the lifestyle sin. Specifically that His transformative power in demonstrated in and by you of His truth. Thank you for sharing your testimony with us.

[@giovannanapolitano817]

Thank you so much Rosaria.... God is using you in such a powerful way..... I

[@sirblanka]

You should invite Christopher Yuan on your show as well. Another amazing testimony of God saving a man from homosexuality. He does a lot of podcasts with Rosaria and they are dear friends.

[@tulip4169]

This was absolutely amazing! Rosario is so good! I have never heard this topic expounded upon like this. It’s so rich with wisdom.

[@TheMomjen]

Wow! What an amazing and inspiring interview:) My faith was strengthened!! Thank you

[@JM-fs8dm]

Wow, wow, wow Allie and Rosaria. Thank you for an amazing and insightful session. God bless you both🙏❗

[@called7bn]

I always come away with insight & good instruction from listening to Rosaria. Thank you for sharing her witness.

[@josephcox6632]

Such a beautiful story. I had the privilege of taking classes from Dr. Kenneth Smith at Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary. Such a gentle man (and I met his wife too) and a strong testimony of the power of neighborliness and God's love in winning people to Christ.

[@rebeccawright2038]

Thank you soooo much, Rosaria, for ALL your sharing of the TRUTH and His great salvation! I love your testimony, your teaching, your encouragement, your ministry! Your work as a disciple who has been through the fire and the flood is a great gift and blessing from our Lord!

[@jdmaine919]

Thank you, Rosario, for sharing this. God bless you both!

[@joannajordan38]

I am so grateful to see my prayers beginning to be answered. All praise and glory be to God through Jesus❤

[@maryvandeusen5554]

I read her book a few years ago. I have followed her since then. She tells the truth and proves God’s love is always with us.

[@kimjohnson8471]

Ty for this. I enjoyed hearing her testimony. I also admire the way she thinks. What a beautiful mind.

[@braylanbelew1346]

ROSARIA WE LOVE YOU! Hearing you tell of God’s work in your life makes me praise Him

[@Heather.Isaiah43.1]

Thank you for continuing to encouraging me to live for God and eternity. To love people more then I desire to be loved by people.

[@ludmilawilliams5317]

Thank you Rosaria, what a great testimony of God's wonderful work of redemption and unconditional love toward us sinners 🙌 I give thanks to God for your neighbor's love for you and his patience in planting seeds of truth in your heart ❤ and not condemning you for who you were. Psalm 40:2-3: He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand. He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God. Many will see and fear the Lord and put their trust in him. I pray your testimony will help others to find their identity in Jesus and may God use you as an instrument for the advancement of His Kingdom 🙏

[@joevolcano6720]

Thank you Rosaria, the future of the Church will because of people like you and Allie. Bless you both 🙏

[@TravelTipsbyLaurie]

Love Rosaria! Our kids played together. She is a hoot!

[@carolejackson8357]

After the Pulse shooting in Orlando Florida, my pastor re-evaluated his position on homosexuality. He invited a forum of homosexuals to share their points of view. The key thing missing was homosexuals who had been delivered from the lifestyle. Heartbreaking. He provided no real spiritual guidance for fear that he might miscommunicate a hatred for people who are homosexual. Withholding the truth that we can be delivered from our sins is one of the greatest sins of all. How grateful I am for the people in the deliverance from sin. As long as we live on this Earth we will never be one-hundred-percent send free. But we will sin less and less. And once delivered from sexual sin (regardless of the brand), that sweet freedom is one of my greatest joys. Never looking back. Never withholding the possibilities of freedom in Christ. That is not love no matter how well intended.

[@pastormatthew4362]

Thank you, Allie Beth, for your personal ministry for the glory of God. You are truly a blessing to so many.

[@MrsJudithhebe]

Wow! This episode was great. As a Christian, it helped me understand so many things.. thank you!

[@genniebeeXCU]

Great interview! What a blessing!

[@Dragonfly20233]

I so appreciate this interview. It is SO helpful in our modern world and as a mother of Christian young adults between 17 and 21 this is huge and so on their minds and hearts. So grateful for her humility and wisdom, however I will say to please realize that the mega church comment is unnecessary. We attend a very large church that many would classify as a mega church that has the firmest and strongest biblical teaching on gender and sexual orientation with no apologies as our Pastor cares deeply for telling us biblical truth. In fact, as military who have traveled all over the world and attended many churches of varying denominations this "mega" church is the only one yet to even attempt to speak truth into this issue from the pulpit while the rest of the pastors cower in silence or bend to the cultural norm. I am sure there are a lot of mega churches not doing this but we do not need to vilify a churches theology simply based on the size. We need to empower people to know scripture and biblical truth so well that they can test wherever they are for truth.

[@andrewpearson1903]

Thank God for what He's done for Prof. Butterfield. She's saying great stuff here, and I can hear the traces of her Catholic education in the way she talks about some things. Very sad to hear about her parents; that kind of smug, complacent dissent seems to be dying out among our people, both lay and consecrated, but it can't die fast enough. In the meantime, in spite of her bad experience with individual Catholics, I hope she looks back to the Church that those nuns spoke for, the one strong Church that can always be relied upon.

[@wendyriskey5431]

Rosaria is a true inspiration! Keep up the good work! God is good all the time!

[@BGotten]

Wow thank you for sharing Rosaria!!!! Such a strong and powerful interview.

[@mti2035]

Hi thanks for this message it is really good that we all better repent and kneel at the cross And anyone with CRC. Listen to this 😊

[@alstube777]

Praise God. We all have fallen short of the glory of God and need God's help in every facet of our lives. God loves everybody as he made them not as they perceive themselves to be.

[@kellyhildebrandt4783]

God bless Rosaria and you Allie for speaking the truth in such a hostile environment❤

[@chantellecunningham8899]

I’m always challenged and encouraged when I hear Rosaria. So glad you two got to talk!

[@elainehogan7865]

Wow! Great podcast. I want to listen again. Very helpful message. Thank you.

[@KathyakaNina]

Amazing episode Allie I have heard of Rosaria’s testimony in Becket and Alisa’s channel and I really love hearing about this topic. I know it is a hard one but VErY important for churches to talk about especially now. I definitely agree to call out some soft Christians and pray that Gods opens their eyes & really show to not fall into the ways of the world, & by being okay with sin & accepting it. We must read God’s word & also be firm our walk with him, and to really know the truth from a lie 😊especially now it’s super important to have that distinction.

[@janeann3331]

Wow, what a conversation!

[@iceman4660]

This was enlightening, powerful and thought provoking. Thanks for sharing and making it clear that as Christians we should how to Jesus and not culture.

[@heistruth2865]

❤❤❤❤ wow what a testimony, so much truth & wisdom shared in this video! Thank You Lord for these opportunities to hear & learn about what You're doing!

[@TeresaFrontino-j4q]

Thank you for this. More Christians need to stand up and defy evil.

[@joshbeard9809]

Thank you Allie for this interview. You are awesome. I could and need to listen this interview again and again. So, I see sin as Jesus sees it. Thank you again.