Forum 2019: John Lennox - What can I say?

'I want to encourage you not to be afraid to do God in public'
On Wednesday evening at #forum19, we heard from Professor John Lennox.
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[@sopuruchichristian7070]

This man is a living legend. He deserves every respect he gets.

[@smsog2236]

Absolutely agree

[@sopuruchichristian7070]

@bob dunson have you ever listened to him or do you just like to curse?

[@Stupidityindex]

We really should address the social acceptance of large numbers of people speaking a fantasyland vocabulary & openly indulging in the deceit of religious belief as a tool of fascism. These are the wolves in sheep's clothing, we know them by their works: A wicked generation seeking signs when Jesus The Nailed says faith is worthless if you can't move mountains by issuing verbal orders to one. Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy. The Christians slapped their books on the Old Testament, & the Mormons glued theirs on to them both, thus proving Christians lack quality-control. Look at the verbose podium jockey speaking of faith & prayer as if we all should have a preference for travel with one foot in fantasyland. Nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital, & there is talk as if God does not have a perfect record of doing nothing, as if we had no reason for the saying: God helps those helping themselves. A house divided cannot stand. We vote because Christians have no quality-controls, & we desire those governing not making suggestions travel is best done with one foot in someone's fantasyland. 'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.'' It was secular law & order ending the inquisitions & witch-killings. One might expect a deity to make itself known to everyone without work performed in interpretations of old literature by guys like our verbose podium jockey. Theologians acquire grand titles without certification from a deity, & project certainty using fantasyland vocabulary in an academic setting to compensate for lack of reason.

[@HarryPairatestes363]

​@@StupidityindexWhen I first read this, two possibilities popped into my mind. Either you're trying to be edgy and provocative by being intentionally dense, or this isn't the writing of an actual person but rather a chimpanzee let loose on a keyboard. Nowhere in your ad hominem filled- i.e. "podium jockey"- juvenile diatribe did you make anything even resembling a valid argument. First, you need to provide a definition for "fantasy land vocabulary." I think you meant to label it "language that confounds my senses and must therefore be summarily dismissed, on account of my philosophical and theological ignorance and ineptitude." "Religion as a tool of fascism." This gave me a good chuckle on account of the knowledge that the founding father of fascism, Benito Mussolini, was an ardent atheist and materialist. His move from left to 'right' never actually modified his secular perspective. Even as late as 1944, when Mussolini was installed as the head of the puppet government in Salo, and shortly before his death, he still professed a profoundly anti religious worldview. Of course, none of this matters to an unreasonable and a-historical mind such as yours...because you weaponize words(like fascism) in an attempt to make some absurd comparison between religious belief and authoritarianism, as if to say the two are mutually exclusive. It is interesting that you mention "secular law" as being such a saving grace. First, western conceptions of law, human rights, justice, and our approach to crime and punishment more broadly, are undergirded by Judeo-Christian ethics and principles, rather than some atheistic conception of morality(which is overwhelmingly relativistic) that emerged, completely whole cloth, out of the ether. What secularism and materialism--both atheistic in theory and application--actually did, was unleash the deadliest century in human history. The idea that man could achieve, of his own accord, a global utopian cooperative devoid of God by perfecting his own nature, resulted in unspeakable human misery. Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao(with honorable mention going to the Vietnamese and Cuban regimes) were mass murderers on an order of magnitude multiple times anything that occurred during the Inquisitions which, at best, cost the lives of a few thousand people. Of course the National Socialists pursued similar utopian goals--albeit with a racist and ethnocentric component that took its cues from the widely popular secular progressive science of the day, eugenics. And before you attempt to invoke the nonsensical "the Nazis were Christians" argument that Christopher Hitchens did- unfortunately, quite persuasively to his mostly young and impressionable fan base, I'd caution you not to engage in such historical revisionism. According to his own logic, the Bolsheviks must have all been Jews and Orthodox because they were nominally 'raised' as such! Wow! How utterly embarrassing. As for Freud's quote on literacy: He should have thanked the early church for introducing Universities to the world, not to mention the birth of Natural Philosophy and Science, the latter of which belongs almost entirely to the deeply religious Sir Isaac Newton. Likewise, the many missionaries who made their way throughout the known world preaching the gospel, also inculcated the importance of biblical literacy and education into many of their adherents. A primary example of this would be Patrick in Ireland, an island full of illiterate pagans at the time of his missionary work, that was thusly transformed into a bastion of scribes and scholars, who diligently copied(along with the Bible) some of the greatest works of antiquities. While the remnants of The Roman Empire were being ransacked and burned by pagan hordes, the newly Christianized Irish were preserving vast amounts of human knowledge and wisdom. A few final points. Your snarky quip regarding prayers in children's hospitals is just further proof of your inability to grasp metaphysical concepts. The problem of suffering has been intensely debated for centuries. There are a number of philosophical and theological perspectives on this topic, and none of them somehow disprove or otherwise debunk the existence of God. Further, there have been a number of well documented scientific studies that demonstrate the effectiveness of prayer in general, but more specifically with respect to terminally ill people. I've yet to see any data indicating that the lack of belief in God, and thusly the absence of prayer, generate any positive outcomes with respect to this demographic. Lastly, John Lennox is a mathematician, Bio ethicist and Christian Apologist...not a Theologian. The Science of Prayer www.psychologicalscience.org/news/the-science-of-prayer-2.html Prayer May Reshape Your Brain ... And Your Reality - NPR www.npr.org/2009/05/20/104310443/prayer-may-reshape-your-brain-and-your-reality

[@colinlavery625]

No he isn't. He holds wacky religious views.

[@annewelch9955]

I only heard about him two weeks ago. He is a gift from God. He is a humble man who is not afraid of standing for the things of God. God bless him 🙏

[@Stupidityindex]

He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[@christopherstead4466]

This man is just brilliant and worth listening to every day!

[@AnnaSzabo]

I listen to him every day

[@tarsusalimes7691]

True sign of Godly wisdom, the ability through the Holy Spirit to convey deep things in a simple way. God bless Dr. John Lennox with many more years of imparting life to people. We love this faithfull man of God!

[@lunamaria1048]

I have a great deal of respect for this man.

[@XYisnotXX]

Atheism damages the brain severely!

[@stevehall1218]

He is a good example of being meek and humble. He does not use a condescending tone. Talking about true experiences is not bragging if it is spoken without pride.

[@donmac8181]

I was attracted to you from your comment about being born in Amagh, Ireland as it was my fathers place of birth. He was a great man and a Christian, altho not as accomplished educationally as you. I am a born again Christian and much enjoy your posts. God Bless your necessary work in the Universaties. ---Much needed!

[@daveydoodle1916]

I thank God for this man.His talks help me to stay above water. Thank you Mr. Lennox I need hope that’s what I’m counting on.🙏🙏🙏

[@bevmatts]

I just love Dr. John Lennox! He's such a shining beacon and truly lives Jesus's words "Let your light shine!"🙏❤🙏

[@AnnaSzabo]

I feel the same way

[@praveenliverpool]

John Lennox - truly inspired by God.

[@ramonfabular1022]

Jesus bless you and your family Sir John✝️🙏🥰✌

[@milblind]

So thankful for all the Knowledge and wisdom you have shared, mr. Lennox. As the vulcans would have said it ; " Live Long and Prosper". God bless you.

[@XYisnotXX]

Lennox is a stand up Guy, a real intellect!

[@ximoramos8725]

Thank God for Dr. Lennox and the many who stand firm and fight for the faith

[@jjcm3135]

A courageous man above all.

[@jakeabivaofficial]

His message cuts thru my heart. Need to watch it again and again to fully grasped what his message.

[@tedgrant2]

His message is very simple. "Donate"

[@XYisnotXX]

Atheism damages the brain severely

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz I understand it perfectly well, new age fairy tales of origin of life, conciousness and first cause understanding. The arrogance of it is mind bending without a single shrek of evidence to back any of it up. The estimated amount of understanding mankind has of all the universe has yet to reveal stands at approximately 1percent and they talk God of the gaps ha. There are no gaps, just a never ending series of gaping casms. Their arrogance is offensive.

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz Is there any such thing as an atheist? When ye have explained everything without reference to the supernatural we will all come on board so that will be never. Seeing as Dawkins has had such an effect on you, here is another evolutionary biologist and an atheist for you, Dr Guy McPherson, he claims this age old God argument is almost at an end. See how you like his science.

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz As if I would understand science, ROTFL. Do you know something about me buddy, go on amuse me further with your awesome intellect. Arrogant much?

[@dpbierman2586]

I agree with many comments below... Mr Lennox has a God given database of knowledge. And he shares it with love with believer and non-believer❤️🙏🏻

[@JoanKentBible]

What a beautifully responsive audience. John Lennox really is a brilliant man.

[@XYisnotXX]

Atheism damages the brain severely!

[@aphuafisher2892]

What an inspiring and truthful talk! Thank you prof Lennox.

[@jasonpalmer4211]

John Lennox is such a brilliant man

[@mcmanustony]

brilliant at mathematics. I'd love to hear him talk about that. His babbling apologetics is a boring and fatuous as anyone else's.

[@jasonpalmer4211]

@@mcmanustony that is very true

[@mcmanustony]

@@jasonpalmer4211 you also find him religious ramblings boring?

[@jasonpalmer4211]

@@mcmanustony yes I do

[@barnas26]

Great man for Jesus

[@XYisnotXX]

Never existed ah ha ha even Dawkins had to backtrack on that ridiculous assertion " I take that back, Jesus existed" Richard Dawkins.

[@kehoebrothers]

It’s too late when you will find out your wrong. All will stand before the judgement seat of Christ

[@migjosh11]

Very reflecting mirror of Light Of God.

[@socratesgonzales3188]

John lennox i love you man! What can i say? Your view awesome wisdom. Hope excist for human life.

[@scoredkoi]

3 years later and couldn’t be more true

[@JCATG]

This is moving. I love how realistic Dr. Lennox was with his approach regarding how to evangelize convincingly through a gracious defense of the faith in public. I wholeheartedly agree that our contemporary times have moved the Christian faith in to the private space out of fear of being shunned. That is an inevitable fact of the Christian journey since we are not of this world, but with the courage which the Holy Spirit gives as we immerse ourselves in the God's Word, we can take the steps to become a better witnessing Christian. May the Lord raise up more people who can be like Dr. Lennox in our generation. We badly need people like him who can communicate the absolute truths of the Christian faith as it still speaks throughout any age.

[@frankmurphyburr3598]

Its as moving as vomit

[@spalding1968]

It was moving to me also . The talk was reassuring and encouraging . People surprise you sometimes by demonstrating aggression to the gospel because they had a false or incorrect / incomplete understanding of the Christian message . Conversation is a wonder way of sharing our faith .

[@vee1713]

Mr. Burr. Hello. I’m interested in your apprent objection. Would you care elaborate?

[@XYisnotXX]

Atheism damages the brain severely!

[@davidjo4209]

I'm so thrilled to hear your message, Dr. Lennox! Thanks for being such a powerful messenger for this generation~!

[@XYisnotXX]

Lennox is a stand up Guy, an incredible intellect.

[@coltonnixon6290]

I thank God for people like tgis and ravi zacharias, jorden peterson and so on. Powerful people not by physical might but by God given brilliance and the gift of understanding

[@GeoCoppens]

Rubbish! Total!

[@annandricktaylor8593]

@@GeoCoppens The cross is foolishness to those who do not believe. 1 Corinthians 1v 18-20... "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God" find this chapter in the Bible and please read it

[@GeoCoppens]

@@annandricktaylor8593 So What! It's in the Bible and therefore it's religious meaningless rubbish!

[@XYisnotXX]

Atheism damages the brain severely!

[@coltonnixon6290]

@@annandricktaylor8593 i love chap one and two of first Corinthians

[@godd226]

Such wisdom. Been trying to find such a wife that supplies her husband with scripture, but 37 years and still no hope, even in the church buildings.

[@terrywalter5355]

You will live long Sir John Lennox Amen you are blessed by GOD

[@sennest]

S-U-P-E-R!!! Thank you for this seminar, it is awewome!

[@EmmanuelMFUMMENSAH]

Electronic fasting......A good one. Thanks Prof. Lennox

[@geraldjohnson8871]

*Like l said:: this life is* *Our last opportunity* *for making Our Plea* *of Mercy before the* *LORD OUR* *RIGHTEOUSNESS* *(Jeremiah23:6) And* *once Death occurs* *we will be unable To *Plead For our Souls..* *Repentance is the* *Only Way to Plead for* *Ones Eternal Soul..* *Y'shua ha Mashiach* *Our Saviour*

[@4dchess-Eri]

Probation closing soon. The battle rages on. Knowledge increasing.

[@geraldjohnson8871]

@@4dchess-Eri A T Yea Lord Amen... The minute We Die Our Probation Ends... We Shall All be Tried unto The End...

[@jesuslovesme143]

God bless John Lennox.

[@ahler3973]

Gbu Dr

[@rep3e4]

Awesome. Some common sense!

[@pasainchina97]

B E A utiful. Thank-you for posting

[@UCCF]

You're welcome!

[@cameronholm5412]

Thank you

[@tishamae6546]

I've been waiting for forum 2020, please...

[@rep3e4]

Awesome

[@tomascua6377]

He is a great story teller

[@gregedenfield1080]

Thank you LORD for John Lennox....what can I say????

[@marculatour6229]

Someone say: "He is a wolf in sheep's clothing." Humans created the idea of heaven and hell to cow simple-minded people into compliance. They are lies. S3.Ep4: The Mother of Exiles He knows it and fools ordinary people. It's fun playing pranks on stupid people. It's his hobby and it's my hobby. It's easiest with people who are on religious drugs like the Bible.

[@gregedenfield1080]

I see, unwise statements from a fork tongue, pray that your drug of sad delusion soon releases you. @@marculatour6229

[@matthewgalicia1101]

Woah. "God did it with 11". Time to start reading...

[@saviohermandsouza8734]

Self-realization, or direct personal experience (dpe) of the "image-of-God" that you are made in develops FAITH, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1). "Be still and know that I am God" (Ps. 46:10), is how you discover the image-of-God within.

[@marculatour6229]

Someone say: "He is a wolf in sheep's clothing." Humans created the idea of heaven and hell to cow simple-minded people into compliance. They are lies. S3.Ep4: The Mother of Exiles He knows it and fools ordinary people. It's fun playing pranks on stupid people. It's his hobby and it's my hobby. It's easiest with people who are on religious drugs like the Bible.

[@patrickcleary741]

...the world is full of educated fools...Ray Kroc...

[@hlulanizitha9920]

14:38," you'll see I've written up my notes already ". How could have anyone not laughed at that joke.

[@rkots2962]

John Lennox is the only living being with strong & unimpeachable logic...

[@deborahsayers3826]

Yoduvh essential i was wondering have you ever done a tour of your dyi you have done? I would love to see a tour of your house.

[@dylanschweitzer18]

My man sounds like Winnie the Pooh. Love you John Lennox!

[@kvelez]

7:41 Important point. 9:52 Witnessing. 13:55 Wow. 16:36 Amen. 19:11 HAHAHA, wow. 20:44 I see. 24:08 Never noticed that. 25:59 HAHAHA. 27:40 Thank you. 29:20 HAHA. 30:33 Interesting.

[@christyannceraso]

What is he referring to that he saw, that people should watch and share?

[@UCCF]

He is talking about the Mark Drama, you can hear more of those comments in this video facebook.com/uccf.thechristianunions/videos/382412369316279

[@JamesRichardWiley]

John loves sharing his Bible, his faith and his churchgoing with his adoring fans. Sadly, I don't share John's faith. I am a 75 year old atheist who reads and thinks about contradictions and imaginary beings that suspend the Laws of Nature.

[@rebanelson607]

You certainly have the right to your beliefs. What is your hope?

[@idontknowWhatTosay8]

hhhhhh... great!

[@XYisnotXX]

Great Irishman

[@XYisnotXX]

Unlike you?

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz Live in the real world do you well good for you, you have already declared yourself smarter and more brilliant than countless great minds of history and today. You know whats not true but dont know what is, arrogant much?

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz Damage yours did it, tell me who is a great mind and would they happen to be an atheist by any chance.

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz Dawkins, wasn't he the guy who refused to take on William lane Craig. Here is a quote from Einstein," the trouble with us scientists is that we are very poor philosopher's", there is also another one about his anger over atheists using him for support but its been a while cant quote it directly. Any thoughts on first cause or is that no longer necessary, let me guess you "dont know" and consider that a more noble position to take on it while sneering at believers. Arrogant much?

[@XYisnotXX]

@Rolf Leseratz You utter meaningless gibberish while refusing to defend your ridiculous position. Atheism damages the brain severely

[@myopenmind527]

Just goes to show that a PhD is insufficient to protect some people from believing ridiculous things.

[@marculatour6229]

Someone say: "He is a wolf in sheep's clothing." Humans created the idea of heaven and hell to cow simple-minded people into compliance. They are lies. S3.Ep4: The Mother of Exiles He knows it and fools ordinary people. It's fun playing pranks on stupid people. It's his hobby and it's my hobby. It's easiest with people who are on religious drugs like the Bible.

[@rebanelson607]

If the Scriptures are a drug I'm a junkie and don't intend to seek rehab! What is YOUR hope? Mine is in the resurrection of Jesus and the promise of full redemption and eternal life. Peace to you.

[@marculatour6229]

@@rebanelson607 You can also try to face reality. But that often hurts. You're right. Take your drugs to escape reality. Being human is often unbearable. If you want to meet really crazy people. Launch your browser. Enter KZbin and type in the term “religion.” You will experience your blue miracle. Nothing compares to it, even not a madhouse. Best of all. Like in the madhouse people don't know that they are mad. Be glad you met me at the asylum.

[@marymcreynolds8355]

An uber fed man making other uber feds feel very good about themselves. Oh how the self righteous set themselves up for serious examination.

[@kanteannightmare]

You sound extremely self righteous.

[@graftme3168]

I just keep thinking that is the ugliest chair I ever saw. Doesn't look comfortable either.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

it is sad to listen to the story why John Lennox never been honest again on that topic.

[@thinboxdictator6720]

and no, atheism is not belief system... /sigh I thought you are better,what apologetics did to you?

[@GeoCoppens]

The insane do not know how insane they are! Prime examples: John Lennox and his ilk!

[@tedgrant2]

I have no desire to donate to any organisation that makes money by lying to vulnerable people.

[@kanteannightmare]

The condescension here is astounding. You call them vulnerable to prop yourself up as reasonable (ego). You can't know whether they are or not, you don't know them. But you need to make sure people know how "good" you are by stepping on others. *Vulnerable* my left foot…

[@tedgrant2]

@@kanteannightmare I am getting a message from a man who died. He says he loves you. He wants you to sow a seed of $10 or $20 and you will be rewarded many times. Honest.

[@tedgrant2]

@Rolf Leseratz The wages of sin is death. Pride comes before a fall. Spinach is good for you. Coffee comes from Brazil.

[@tedgrant2]

@Rolf Leseratz We've already established that I am stupid, so anything I say has an excuse.

[@brit1066]

PERHAPS THIS LYING ASSHOLE COULD TRY SAYING HE TRUTH.

[@HearGodsWord]

Such a reasoned and balanced case you've made. Not. Shouting insults isn't going to convince anyone to listen to you.

[@brit1066]

Hear God's Word And quoting the lies of your god and his book will NOT CONVINCE ANYONE WHO THINKS instead of just gives in to the BULLSHIT OF CHRISTIANITY. By the way when I hear the preachers screaming out their CLAPTRAP THAT IS INSULTING TO ME. The preachers EXPECT YOU TO JUST BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY SAY, when I ask QUESTIONS THEY SEEM TO BE OFFENDED. THAT IS INSULTING, do you understand YOU INSULT THINKING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ASK HARD QUESTIONS. Before shouting off your mouth, THINK THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY and see how YOUR attitudes are OFFENSIVE. SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

[@john211murphy]

Try telling the truth for once Mr. Lennox. You lie just so much about Evolution. Remember the 9th Commandment.

[@rendkee11]

😂😂😂 wow!