Forza Motorsport | Reveal Gameplay Trailer VS Final Version | Graphics Comparison | PC Max. Settings

- This video was made with footage from the official 2022 reveal gameplay and the final version of the game on PC with all settings set to maximum and RT enabled.
- Este video se ha realizado con material del reveal gameplay de 2022 oficial y la versión final del juego en PC con todos los settings al máximo y RT activado.
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[@ElAnalistaDeBits]

- This video was made with footage from the official 2022 reveal gameplay and the final version of the game on PC with all settings set to maximum and RT enabled. - Este video se ha realizado con material del reveal gameplay de 2022 oficial y la versión final del juego en PC con todos los settings al máximo y RT activado.

[@lofi1598]

did you turn off gamma display or no because it's looks better than this

[@Sheeto1989]

Analista, no vi este tipo de comparación con GT7 donde es muchísima mas evidente la diferencia. Creo que se defiende bien el Forza pese a la campaña evidente contra él.

[@ArielCleirigh]

El dia y la noche entre esos dos videos

[@ArielCleirigh]

@@Sheeto1989 Deje de Llorar y acepte la realidad y para que lo sepas GT7 tiene una versión nativa en Ps4 en cambio FM8 no comparte ninguna versión con xbox one donde están esos 12tf?

[@yamilrivero1783]

Que la comparación sea en un PC deja peor aún a Xbox,vaya downgrade

[@jaykelz1528]

The difference in lighting is unacceptable 😭😂

[@styls2009]

4:32 Especially here, we don't see the text.

[@tomn8276]

Hiding missing assets and textures!

[@kriptonz69]

He downed the lighting of the images, its not real game images, this channel is just a load of rubbish

[@玛丽莲萌露]

目前还没有RTGI，稍后会添加，图片将与2022年相似。

[@neilranson4185]

Well done sir for having this video featured on digital fluent forza downgrade discussion. Your work is being rightfully recognised

[@fredback9259]

4:37 Esta ha sido mi parte favorita😅

[@berserkdilandu2553]

No festival 😢

[@rojocasinegro8516]

Estará cerrado el parque de atracciones 😂😂

[@zacariascisneros6399]

Se siente depresivo el no tener luces ahi xdn't

[@FabRx98]

Eso fue criminalll jajaj

[@BravTM]

certamente tivemos um downgrade aqui, acho que o principal para mim são as cores, certas cores no de 2022 estão muito linda e no de 2023 estão um pouco mais opacas e isso faz o de 2023 parecer mais inferior, ainda sim aqui temos o melhor jogo de carro em gráfico e jogabilidade na minha opnião, um ótimo trabalho da turn10. Edit: O vídeo do El Está com erros e problemas de cores, então desconsidere totalmente as cores e reflexos, o jogo está Muito mais lindo que essas imagens que ele fez essas comparações e ele também não colocou a parte da roda gigante a noite corretamente porquê precisa habilitar isso já que é um festival ou algo tipo, então definitivamente aqui não temos um downgrade grande, são pequenos aspectos que no final do produto não prejudicaram a qualidade do jogo, retiro também oque eu disse sobre o " Excelente vídeo El " já que ele não se preocupou em capturar as imagens corretamente assim como a IGN o fez, portanto para vocês que estão em dúvidas olhem outros comparativo já que aqui foi mal feito.

[@econoinner_force954]

frankly you speak without knowing GT7. Details, Lightnings, Physics, Tracks, Sound, Steering Wheel... and BassShaker 🎉

[@kostasbousbouras2654]

GT7 is better in both graphics and gameplay.

[@jchj89]

Dá a sensação q os carros estão com as cores chapadas, tem hora q fica bem feio Eu não joguei GT7, mas acho q os modelos dos carros são mais bonitos, e eles fizeram um trabalho nas lanternas q qd acendem passam um realismo absurdo que da gosto de ver

[@Leon-apXut7]

@@kostasbousbouras2654LOL GT7 fell short of expectations and by far has worse graphics.

[@mattialabo]

@@kostasbousbouras2654absolutely no

[@GerryWanderUwU]

Luce bien pero si hay un poco de Downgrade, al menos su apartado gráfico no es malo como el de Gran Turismo 7.

[@theshiningdoor]

Se ve mejor graficamente el gran turismo 7 y eso que aqui esta usando un pc potente, aparte el GT7 es intergeneracional

[@A-ZoneG4ming]

El gran turismo 7 tiene mejor presentación, música, repetición, modo foto, menu

[@saturnalien_5291]

Kids want colors, plastic cars and cartoonish style, not photorealistic, it's ok .

[@supersalmon2279]

It should be illegal to mislead customers this badly

[@Reis_Room]

Look how fast they fixed all the cracks on the road..it took em only 1 year x)

[@schorschgaggo66]

Details on the side of the road are missing. The grass strip lacks any depth. Extremely detailed cars appear to be placed in a blurry painted scene. In absolute terms, the graphics are not bad. But compared to the expectations fueled by trailers, the graphics have to be considered 'failed'

[@masterbenjamin3348]

Ich finde das Downgrade nicht so schlimm. Wer bleibt im Foto Modus stehen und sieht jede Textur oder Felsen hinter den Track an. Es soll sich gut fahren und sieht trotzdem beeindruckend aus.

[@xpaulrh2731]

Ganz deiner Meinung

[@pgatom8255]

Some parts got downgraded, other instead got heavy upgrades like depth of field on cinematica

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

depth of field is ass like chromatic aberration and motion blur

[@pgatom8255]

@@Ghost-pb4tsclearly you hate cinematic experiences, you’re a pc player that likes to see every single pixel out of your screen right?

[@Wyn3e]

​@@pgatom8255no its not meant to be that way and needs to be fixed regardless chromatic abrasion is bad

[@pgatom8255]

@@Wyn3e probably options to change it will be available

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

@@pgatom8255 no just the above settings and vignette, bloom I like motionblur but if implemented correctly

[@Torquemadaaa]

It seems that the release verison completely lacks global illumination from the Sun. And because the lighting model is dynamic, you now cannot have pre-computed GI. So it's like the crucial component of the rendering simply removed. Removed details and reduced draw distance are also noticeable, but don't affect the overall perception that much.

[@alexaoo]

Do you think it would be fixed with an update?

[@ZinhoMegaman]

RTGI, they were planning to use it but it got botched from gameplay and only appear in a limited version in replays and garage

[@MangueraPrime]

It doesn't look as bad to me as this guy uploads the final version, it seems like his graphics are bad.

[@xandianjos3905]

the ilumination and the colors are bad 😢

[@ethanwayne6973]

​@@MangueraPrimeno I've seen it myself the actual graphics are even worse than you would expect from watching this video

[@gtx1650max-q]

It would improve a lot if they remove this weird grey filter. Also they reduced Draw Distance of Foliage, ground looks barren at some distance

[@ShadyPaperclips]

"the most advanced racing game ever made" my ass lmao

[@barracadoseuze4213]

Lmao, this title is for ACC, Automobilista 2 or Rfactor 2. 😂

[@fups1]

@@barracadoseuze4213 Imagine what they could do if they had the budget of Turn 10 😭 Or maybe staying independent is what makes them so good 🤔

[@Wyn3e]

@@fups1honestly that would be my dream sim or simcade game

[@vyasrushi5177]

And that's why we should never get excited about graphics just from the trailers

[@jlb4685]

FH5 was an exception.

[@vyasrushi5177]

@jlb4685 FH5 is also downgraded, but not this much

[@overheatedeskim054]

WTF are you talking about the 2023 versions looks night and day difference way better with RTAO running tracks more detailed the landscape and trees are more detailed.

[@Wyn3e]

​@@overheatedeskim054I mean FH5 was a graphics downgrade like he said just not as much

[@zak8866]

​@vyasrushi5177 it's even as big as you make it seem , it still has the core features like ray tracing and ambient occlusion , looks better than any other racer now with the exception of ac with mods

[@Igotcha05]

Ubisoft level of a downgrade

[@fernando-gk9sj]

Damn That is quite a downgrade

[@fernando-gk9sj]

Thank god i payed for a month of gamepass to test the game After seeing this , doubt im spending Any money on this game

[@nepehace50anos66]

Si la verdad que si

[@ANFWHGPIE23]

@@fernando-gk9sj youy dont even own or have gamepass, just a salty virgin basement dweller pony

[@JoshuaKhup]

That's sad, even in the next generation we still get a downgrade.

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

​@@fernando-gk9sjI just played 2 hours and then deleted it, it's nothing like we've seen in the trailer..

[@DeesBees85]

I’m shocked there hasn’t been a bigger backlash about this. It’s so obvious the game was downgraded from that June 2022 reveal. The PC version doesn’t even have global illumination which they said was happening.

[@th3orist]

There is reddit is fuming, so are the forza Forums. What more can we do?

[@Pupixario]

The game isn't even launched yet. It's just the people who pre-ordered complaining for now. Wait for release next week. It might reach the news :D

[@roundeyeudie]

Here from the future. Looks the same and performance is god awful in a way that makes no sense for a racing game@@Pupixario

[@새까막]

​@@PupixarioThat didn't age well...

[@Pupixario]

​@@새까막 You guys don't understand my comment it seems. It aged perfectly. I said that it's just a few people complaining back then because the game was not even launched yet. It's so bad that when it launches to the general public it will explode in negative comments. And it has. My comment was a reply to Dan Becker, who was surprised that there isn't a bigger backlash (it was just too early).

[@thomasyip1925]

They just nerfed it like crazy

[@vladislavgritsenko3636]

The biggest difference is they made the game look washy,grey,not enough contrast and colours look pale.If they fix it,there won't be that much difference,graphics itself is not that much downgraded,looks fine compared to the reveal.They just need to recalibrate colours and it will be much much better already

[@ArbimanGr]

Totally agree! Colours supposed to be vivid and not like they have been washed out .........

[@dadycommunity2784]

it also looks like there was drops on resolution on the current version where there were none on the reveal. however there seems to be better road textures and better backgrounds on the current version.

[@vladislavgritsenko3636]

@@dadycommunity2784 Mm?Resolution?You mean 4k?

[@Siranoxz]

Why do you think they put disclaimers on not the final build, of course the visuals and gameplay change overtime because its not. Like Forza Horizon 5, the team will fix and patch all of the intricate stuff later on.

[@ld9387]

​@Siranoxz they never put a disclaimer on the 2022 gameplay reveal though

[@KairosHC.]

Forza Downgradesports

[@theshiningdoor]

Brutal el downgrade!!!

[@lordmaster2562]

Found the ps5 weak poor mans console user

[@MerrillDragonAge]

Where downgrade?

[@IgnacioEstebanJahnsen]

La parte donde se compara al GTR reflejando al Ferrari es totalmente de no creer, el downgrade es tan masivamente brutal que pareciera que el producto final es un juego de Xbox 360. El estudio que hizo este juego criminalmente se rie en la cara de los xboxers.

[@daniloperina9043]

​@@IgnacioEstebanJahnsenMas eles gostam de bosta, continuam elogiando o jogo. Não vejo nenhum fã reclamando.

[@tonnyvasquez4849]

I want to see your comparation between forza and GT7

[@naeseard]

found our instigator

[@marksapollo]

So would I.

[@patrick22014]

It's gonna happen sooner or later and people will be crying in the comments lol

[@tonnyvasquez4849]

El analista de bits is afraid of doing this comparation 😅😅😅

[@360noscope]

I like Xbox but damn the Downgrade here is something else

[@JoshuaKhup]

Yeah bro, we are in the next generation and we still got a downgrade.

[@Csal406]

As long as we customer keep supporting turn 10 then we are going to get downgraded graphics. If we don't speak up then it will continue.

[@itsmorbtime2536]

Lmao I still remember the director of the game bargging about how advanced tech they were using in this game,now it looks like this.

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

From the ground up 😂🤡

[@dylanlumpe]

I'm one of the biggest Forza fans in the world - and I can honestly say Motorsport is a flop, and we've been blatantly lied to

[@ld9387]

It's really disappointing isn't it

[@TheGabrielfaro]

6:39 this shot exemplifies exactly what bothers me the most about this game. There is something wrong with their light model... a lot of the times cars look dull, sad and out of place. The car paints sometimes has this weird bright glow that make them look like they are wrapped in a matte plastic or something

[@goodToBeConfidential]

But look at the edges of the cars, they kooks cleaner in the final version but ofc at the expense of what u just said

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

compressed vs game capture @@goodToBeConfidential

[@puna89]

lets wait and see on the 10 oct

[@zomboishuts]

​@@goodToBeConfidential I think it's not that they're cleaner, it's just that the trailer used a shallow depth of field compared to gameplay, look how the trees are blurry in the trailer

[@herrlogan17]

It seems demo uses more raytracing on cars.

[@cinders8144]

Haven't seen such a downgrade from a reveal in a long time

[@Peaceiscoming669]

reminds of division days lol

[@balaam_7087]

Or watchdogs, ha

[@crust5909]

Dark Souls 2

[@fifteen8850]

It’s not even that much of a downgrade 😂

[@gastheweebs]

Abandoned, Silent Hills, Metal Gear Zero, TLOU Factions and SW Kotor

[@RuaninhoBR]

Downgrade visual, muito menos efeitos, menos grama, arvores, fumaça, iluminação e detalhes na pista

[@almightysamwhich4203]

Is this grounds for a lawsuit against false advertising?

[@rodolfoaugusto7531]

Caraca cor e iluminação no geral voltou pra geração anterior kkkkk, trailer é sempre enganoso como pode

[@ismaelcortez7484]

Reveal: photo mode Final: in game 😅

[@thelionicorn5380]

I think photo mode doesn’t change the graphics in Forza games. At least not really noticeably

[@VariantAEC]

​@@thelionicorn5380 In prior FM and FH games photomode does improve the car model complexity for only the player's car. It is why every single FM/H game has a loading screen to enter photomode. That loading sequence calls in the higher resolution version of the player's car model. Driveclub instantly switches and starts processing the image as soon as input stops. Users can take photos at any time using the PS4 Share and PS5 Create buttons. GT games have a loading screen to "prepare the camera," and to be honest their virtual camera does much more than most photomode cams in videogames do... so, maybe the loading is legitimately to pull the requisite logic into RAM because there is no difference in visuals regarding lighting models and LoDs from gameplay to replays. The only difference in LoDs applies to cars in GT7 specifically allowing all cars to be LoD 0 in replay photomode's camera staging mode. The only other difference comes after taking a picture and processing the image. This includes a far higher DoF implementation than realtime rendering allows and significantly more motion samples. You can take photos in GT7 on PS5 without RT, which reduces image processing time dramatically. The photomode RT is exactly the same quality and resolution as replay mode RT, shadow quality is also unchanged in photomode and with respect to trackside detail, GT7 makes no changes there either when using photomode. All prior GT games handled Photomode similarly to GT7 (all the way back to GT4 on PS2), with the exception of using LoD 0 cars, that seems new to GT7 on PS5 alone. Photos can be taken as screenshots or saved to allotted game storage and exported to PS5's gallery or uploaded to GT's in-game social media platform via GT7's Showcase menu (similar to how Forza handles image sharing these days).

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

They lied and told us it's in game engine shots

[@emulatorrisi]

Massive downgrade

[@Anesthesia-z7x]

Cry the game is more beautiful, probably a PlayStation kiddos

[@funtimegamer90]

​​​@@Anesthesia-z7x Looks great, but still having downgrade

[@zx_fra]

@@Anesthesia-z7xlmao keep liking your own comment while you cry over this piece of crap of a scam, enjoy your game😊

[@Wyn3e]

@@Anesthesia-z7x”built from the ground up” btw Team 10 actually fucked up this one somehow the car detail in older games look better and yes that has been debunked great “built from the ground up” experience right here cope harder

[@Channelisgone1]

I still find it funny how many times they said built from the ground up.

[@michaelcintron6768]

Can you please do the same comparison with the 2022 reveal trailer and at least the Xbox Series X, and if possible the Series S because the developers specifically stated that the visuals that were shown during the 2022 presentation, including the ra-ytracing scenes were possible on both the Xbox Series X/S which we know is completely not true. Thank you for all your amazing content!

[@theshiningdoor]

hay gente que llorara por esto

[@crust5909]

@Loxxus-eo5bq because the game was downgraded. And the only reason why you downgrade a game's graphics is because the hardware is not handling it correctly.

[@Jewoc]

@@crust5909 there's an RT mode on Series X, though not as beautiful as the PC version. Not sure about the Series S though, it's way weaker than the X. I think that was more the guy in charge of the marketing than the dev on this one. What's doable with one car might not be on 24 cars. I guess, having RT with 24 cars is kinda a prowess in itself on those consoles. Are you holding a grudge for a specific reason?

[@ShadyPaperclips]

@Loxxus-eo5bq because we've seen not even a PC with it's graphics maxed out could match the reveal trailer, therefore XSX and especially the XSS have no chance

[@ShadyPaperclips]

@@Jewoc Problem is the devs/game director appeared in the video and interviews saying those things. It was a flat out lie

[@narkas5647]

El juego no está mal, pero downgrade tiene y bastante

[@lawyerlawyer1215]

Yo lo que no entiendo es por que el downgrade en pc? En consolas el juego esta muy bien , tomando en cuenta el hardware que tienen las consolas , que hayan conseguido 60fps completamente estables con 2 efectos de Raytracing y resolución variable es aplaudible Es evidente que había que hacer concesiones para conseguirlo, pero el resultado final se sigue viendo excelente. Pero en pc podían haber empujado el juego a todo lo que da y que la gente ajuste los settings según su ordenador. No entiendo por que no lo lanzaron como el el gameplay del anuncio

[@jamesw884]

​@lawyerlawyer1215 because it was an announcement trailer and not real gameplay is why, ponies pretending to have pc's again

[@kug4cross969]

Que????? El mejor juego a la par de su video presentacion. Te compro anteojos si queres.

[@narkas5647]

@@kug4cross969 no entendí xD

[@kashim.22]

En donde está el downgrade xd jajaja están locos y ciegos

[@maximiacovacci]

Device? Settings? Video without data is pretty pointless vid.

[@Wableyt]

You should compare it with XSX version instead of PC max settings. This gameplay reveal was supposed to show the power of the XSX as mentioned in the description of the original xbox yt channel video.

[@борисрябушкин-з9н]

Absolute majority of pc players have worse gexperience than series x.

[@Vaaasss]

​@@борисрябушкин-з9нWhat the hell are you talking about?🤦😂

[@adriannavarro9962]

​​​@@борисрябушкин-з9нanyway most console players will be playing it on Series S, which makes up 3/4 of Xbox Series sales. Anyone with an RTX 2000 or an RX 5600 XT and up will be having a better experience.

[@SDGRTX1455]

I said this for almost one month ago "The downgrade is real!" This is my last game from Microsoft. Disgusting.

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

Yeah, honestly I felt there's something wrong with the graphics the first time I played it, played no more than 2hrs then uninstalled it

[@irbin9269]

Vaya pedazo de downgrade que nos comimos, confiaba cuando menos en la versión de PC, parecía que se iban a marcar algo al estilo Playground Games (esa gente son magos), pero pues bueno. Igualmente sigue siendo top gráfico y le voy a meter una cantidad de horas anormal, pero si me encuentro ligeramente decepcionado, un poquitín.

[@kamiloitovocaloito]

Ugh... demasiado descarado el downgrade, ademas quitaron cosas super absurdas... y no se, parece como que han puesto los graficos a medio y han dicho venga, eso son los graficos en ultra. Simplemente que dejen a los que tengan un PC potente añadir lo que han quitado xddd.

[@rainey06au]

Bait and switch. Looks like they spent the most dev time making the 'enhanced' scenes for a trailer than making the actual game.

[@SpecialK69420]

The game looks like it had the same problem as FM7. Some how being too dark while being overexposed. This has nothing to do with the brightness bug btw. Look at the maple valley night section. Too dark. And the day looks washed out. Its the developers not implementing environmental lighting and gamma settings correctly. Or the engine just doesnt do lighting well.

[@MerrillDragonAge]

This says a lot about modern society

[@deadzero1387]

Can you imagine what it would be like if they did this in movies? they show you an IMAX ready trailer but the movie was shot on an Android phone

[@End0fst0ry]

Right. This is called false advertising, but yes, they used words like "Does not represent the final look of the game." to get away with this.

[@emptydynamix2840]

​@@End0fst0ryyeah... Would've been nice if that meant it would look even better a year later... But as we can clearly see... Not the case

[@BlissifiedHH]

@@End0fst0ry Motorsport as a whole was just nonstop false advertising. Anything from cars to tons of statements made about being built from the ground up which never was true lmao

[@gabor-toth]

The 2022 reveal had RTGI that's missing from the final game. RT reflections have also been downgraded, especially on Xbox. Night lighting is also a step back.

[@misael28vega]

The minute 4:48 is false, it is modified, I have early access and it is not visible towards this false one, which could be the rest of the video.

[@shockle28]

Huge downgrade

[@flaxdark1879]

El juego actual se ve increíble, pero joder nos mintieron a la cara, el gameplay del 2022 se miraba un juego mucho más ambicioso, que la iba romper por diferencia en su género.

[@lyonzka77]

Dijo nunca nadie:

[@angeloxperiax8]

​@@lyonzka77de hecho muchísima gente presumió con el tráiler, pero nadie esperaba un downgrade tan grande

[@jonathanhuerta1724]

​@@angeloxperiax8el downgrade grande está en la iluminación, que en el reveal era por raytracing y ahora no

[@SanYCreWMadriZ]

Castillos en el aire nos dan todos los vende humos estos...Y veras WRC😂que ni culean los coches ni nada gira igual de delante que de atras al menos en los videos, que ni un pro es capaz de conducir de forma realista porque han debido de poner el eje de giro ahi en el centro del coche y...madre mia🙈

[@ArielCleirigh]

Parece que llegaste ayer No conoces a xbox? las mentiras es lo suyo y este video mas claro no puede ser.

[@cesarmuller8962]

Monstruoso o downgrade! Fosse um jogo da Sony os caixas estavam berrando pro mundo hahahahahahaha

[@NV2A.indi.2021]

Pues entonces como debe ser el GT7 que queda por debajo del FM 8 visualmente.... 🌚🌝

[@sebastianp_s_426]

4:48 false.

[@harundalkilinc1636]

Final version looks to washed out, looks to clinic and dark

[@filipe_ferreiraa]

Claramente houve um downgrade

[@gabrielsobrosa]

And we can talk about how some cars still have the same inacurate 3D models from 2005. """Built from the ground up"""

[@Gamerprosv]

Video trucado como siempre, pensé que ya habías cambiado ...

[@Eduardo93x]

Solo acepta la verdad, ni que Microsoft te pagara compa. Deben mejorar, un juego actual deberia verse muchisimo mejor.

[@Gamerprosv]

@@Eduardo93x tengo el juego y no se ve así... por eso lo digo

[@2stepmediaofficial]

FORZA MOTORSPORT DID THE SAME TO US AS WHAT BATTLEFIELD 2042 DID , TRAILERS AND SCREENSHOTS MAKE YOU TRUST THE MARKETING BUT THE FINAL GAME IS FUCKED !!! .. textures look washed out like i need my eyes sorting out .. colours are bland as as if the saturation is -100 .. track visuals and props are just laughable , car models look like forza motorsport 4 models just with reflections .. whilst the car sounds do sound more real and less like every car is straight cut with a loud pipe the graphics is just not worth the £60 price tag !!! .. AAA GAME MARKETING CANT COVER THE FINAL !

[@yoquese2.026]

Claramente hay downgrade, bastante ademas, pero de todos modos el resultado final es muy bueno, fuese un Gran Turismo y la que se lía aquí con los haters escupiendo diarrea por la boca xD

[@miguelarteaga8669]

Gran turismo 7 se ve mucho mejor

[@michaelvelez6699]

GT7 en ambiente es un poco pobre pero FM 2023 diablos... creo que bajó demasiado la calidad por el Ray Tracing y todo lo demás. Para el colmo la prensa de mrda calificando bien como siempre en vez de ser autocritico y ver las fallas de Turn 10 y lo que es alabado

[@muhamed23458]

​@@miguelarteaga8669Schwachsinn, GT7 hat einen eher comichaften look, man sieht bei Vergleichen das FM um einiges besser aussieht. Sogar bei Vergleich zwischen FM7 (2017) und GT7 sehen einige besser aus xD.

[@speedclips_858]

GT7 has microtransactions

[@JosePolo26]

​@@michaelvelez6699 Puedes mencionar un juego de carreras que sea mejor gráficamente que éste Forza? Al menos uno...

[@SuperLeonidas24]

quien no quiera ver que se ve peor apaga y vamonos,en el del 2022 el bosque tiene neblina y aqui no.aparte los focos se ve mas realista el video del 2022

[@robertozito5534]

Maxi downgrade...

[@IanTheBuizel]

I'm enjoying the game but these AAA companies need to stop deceiving us by using pre rendered movies as gameplay.... Should be illegal.

[@kevincarneling7118]

Atleast we save 70 dollars!

[@V8RacerGT]

Its free on gamepass

[@theshiningdoor]

eso es lo que les espera a los usuarios de gamepass, juegos de mala calidad hechos con las patas

[@styls2009]

@@theshiningdoor no

[@volt1711]

pure example of why you shouldn't trust reveal/E3 gameplays

[@XWXS2]

It's almost like they did that on purpose to come with a series XL and show the true power of the game....or they still need to polish the game and update everything by time.

[@Yakoi_]

In this case, it is false advertising. It's not right to do that.. Thanks u for ur vidéo. Turn 10 They take us for idiots.

[@WAGLB]

One of the biggest downgrade ever

[@byZizou]

Creo que la comparativa debería haberse hecho con una Xbox Series X que es donde el juego se promocionaba

[@aldairquispechallco9264]

Si una PC tiene ese nivel gráfico estando en ULTRA, en Series x debe ser igual. En bien sabido que la versión de PC debería ser superior, aunque sea por mínimo al de consola.

[@TerebikunDayo]

El problema es que no se especifican las caracteristicas de la pc ni las opciones de graficos añadidas, por eso es mejor si se hace la comparativa en la consola pues las opciones graficas ya vienen establecidas

[@freddyespinoza5115]

@@TerebikunDayoSolo hay que leer la descripción, sale claramente que está al máximo com RT activado

[@NV2A.indi.2021]

​@@freddyespinoza5115 ¿ donde se ven unos segundos del juego por los menús donde se vea que está a 8k , que es lo máximo del juego ? ... No se quizás alguien vio más ....

[@TerebikunDayo]

@@freddyespinoza5115 No especifica que GPU, RAM, CPU y tarjeta madre usa para la comparativa, es a lo que me refiero. Yo uso una RTX 2080 y el juego se ve como en la demo asi que esa comparativa se cae por los suelos desde ese momento. Para que me salgas con un comentario así significa que no tienes ni idea de computadoras o como se deben hacer comparativas.

[@xxaquixesxx909adriano3]

6:20 No es por ofender pero en esa parte empeoro el juego...

[@edwardmorris2231]

Holy crap didn't realise the downgrade was so big till I saw this! Over promise and under deliver Turn 10 and MS 👎

[@marksapollo]

Looks like they removed any light source almost completely in some shots! Xbox Series Z Pro incoming..

[@petytw_opala]

"Racing Game Of The Year" XDDDDDDDDD

[@Hank_Johnson]

Does look the final version good? Yes! But compared to the reval trailer its awful, shame microsoft!

[@ngoprol1522]

what makes it worse is that this is compared with pc on max settings, so on series x the image quality will be worse. but dont get me wrong, this game still looks good. the only problem is that this game doesnt the same WOW factor like when the first time i saw FM7 gameplay on xbox one x

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

no, it doesn't look good

[@rosaria8384]

This is honestly false marketing at its prime, and is basically the same thing as Ubisoft downgrades back in 2014. Shame on Turn 10. Built from the ground up my ass. 🙄

[@retrogamer64007]

More like downgraded from the top

[@brucewsbr]

Não queria dizer isso, mas o jogo teve um downgrade absurdo... Ótimo vídeo El Analista!

[@victorio681]

Sobra decir que hay mucha diferencia sobre todo en la iluminación final, texturas de césped, superficies de pistas, y algo extraño como que los coches han perdido brillo teniendo un tono más apagado; Algo me dice que la versión PC la han querido adaptar lo más cercana posible a la versión XBOX SERIES X, ya que si no las diferencias habrían sido más que notables, si os fijáis incluso los reflejos e iluminación con RAY-TRACING en Ultra de PC coinciden casi con SERIES X. Definitivamente es un muy buen juego y gráficamente está muy bien pero queda lejos de ese gameplay de 2022. Microsoft nos la ha colado de alguna manera una vez más y seamos honestos, estas consolas tanto PS5 como SERIES X ya van teniendo sus limitaciones, Series S desde el principio; Miedo da la llegada de UNREAL-5, mucho está tardando en instaurarse en los nuevos juegos y ya creo entender por qué…

[@AlejandroGomez-ri2uk]

Pues que será lo único que no tiene limitaciones? Una pc de 3000$ con 4080 o 4090? Jajaj hablas como si todos tuvieran una pc de esas, todo el mercado está concentrado en consolas y pc de gama media-baja ya quiero ver el Unreal-5 corriendo en la 1650 que es la tarjeta más usada por los de pc a ver qué dices jajajaj

[@victorio681]

@@AlejandroGomez-ri2uk lo tienes fácil. Ya tienes demos de unreal 5 para Pc y exigen bastante más de lo que dices para moverse a 4K medianamente fluido. Quizá no has entendido bien mi comentario o no has querido entenderlo. Está de moda que los juegos ahora tienen que correr a 4K nativos o escalados y a 60 frames; Pues los nuevos motores gráficos y ultimas técnicas de renderizado, colisión, sombreado en tiempo real, RT y todo lo que me dejo… son muy pesadas para el ancho de banda de estas consolas en concreto con esa CPU y GPU de tres años. Que tú con una 1650 vas que chutas? cojonudo, pero juegos nuevos exigentes? no sé a qué resolución ni framerate, Quake II seguro que te irá bien eso sí macho.

[@ratapollojesuscristov1187]

@@victorio681 Unreal siempre ha sido así, una demo no basta para declarar lo que dices, en U4 se ve algo similar juegos como Vienes 13 a pesar de usar el mismo motor no se acerca a Gears 5, todo depende de la optimización y no es algo que puedas asegurar en un demo y menos en pc.

[@Aaronsitooo]

La verdad que siempre a pasado eso no? Supongo que lo que hacen siempre es trabajar con el PC y hacen los trailers con dicha plataforma para que se vea lo mejor posible, luego lo intentan correr en consola y ven como se cae a pedazos jajaja, entonces para equiparar lo bajan un poco. Por suerte hay juegos que no han corrido esa mala suerte, hay algunos que en PC están otra generación arriba, por ejemplo Cyberpunk 2077 con Path tracing + DLSS 3.5 y frame generation, Tengo la suerte de poder jugarlo y se ve de lo mejorcito de hoy en dia.

[@victorio681]

@@Aaronsitooo pues sí, no es con todos claro. Saludos !

[@julianoalves3651]

Quem falar que esse jogo não sofreu um downgrade absurdo, tem sérios problemas de visão ou é um exímio passador de pano

[@sean3473]

So hilarious to me how the biggest component they showed of this game was the graphics and lighting.. only to completely nerf it and then have nothing to show for the entire game except better physics.... maybe they should have focused more on the actual game than this stupid bs.

[@Hernanw500]

Todos queremos ver Forza Motosport 8 Vs Gran Turismo 7.

[@albertocarranza4244]

No tiene huevos de hacerlo

[@donlonger]

FInal version looks like it has GTA IV filter on it

[@antoniocarlosmoita1937]

The final version is ridiculous

[@JvanEdits]

so much ruckus and hype, and this crap doesnt get 1/3 close to what RDR2 has achieved way back in 2018, Rockstar set a bar so high that no other devs can even tap it, and that's hilarious to me HAHAHA, thanks for this video, it kept me from wasting my time to crack this game and play it for free.

[@FilmeseSeriesAsiaticas]

Forza Horizon

[@zx_fra]

4:42 D O W N G R A D E. Fuck this i’ll keep playing Gran Turismo 7 on my Ps5.

[@cenkcdemir]

This is not downgrade, it’s a scam . Shame

[@christiangivc1196]

El bajón si se me hace escandaloso la verdad, para ser 2023, si hubiera sido para la generación de ps4 y xbox one a lo mejor lo entiendo

[@wingedhussar1453]

It already looked bad in reveal trailer jeez i guess parity lowering the game for series s to run.will forza game finaly get good gloabal illunination and lighting tht looks nice .it seems like receal trailer just had ray traced lighting on top of it and by the release it got removed to ruj on series s i think

[@otakuelric7782]

Lo peor es que nisiquiera en PC se ve como en el trailer

[@yassermedrano8597]

Cierto

[@kevin00l6]

Este gameplay de 2023 es de PC

[@BacX]

@@kevin00l6 eso fue lo que dijo

[@AlexCreativo]

Casi todos los juegos que anuncian ningún tráiler se ve como el original, casi siempre hay downgrade en este caso no es para tanto el downgrade he visto peores

[@blastinset]

Pero si se ve exactamente igual, la única diferencia es en el FOV y la saturación de colores ._ .

[@welunfes]

It's a sucks, even in DriveClub the graphics weren't worse than what was in the game trailer, and later the graphics only got better.

[@kalipso_3352]

It's really better now.

[@Hellacopter79]

A pesar de que el juego final se ve muy bien, el downgrade ha sido más que evidente.

[@matthiaslachmund3303]

Microsoft have done this for EVERY Forza game ever released! Always! Why is anyone surprised?

[@Wyn3e]

Because it’s motorsport the game for GT fans and racing fans who waited so long from 7 to 8 and they hyped it up and showed use false advertising WE WERE NOT EXPECTING THAT THE CAR DETAIL TO LOOK LOWER QUALITY THAN THE LAST GAME. THAT. IS. SOME. BULLSHIT

[@balaam_7087]

…yikes. What a downgrade 😞

[@KingGameReview]

No wonder I've been so underwhelmed with this game. It really just does not look at all like what they previewed. Even on PC.

[@m1gu32011]

Entiendo este downgrade en la version de consolas, pero por que en PC? Si la consola no puede, no tienes que limitar el PC.

[@techzonelabesp]

Por qué si no los ponen iguales el cuento de la consola más potente y la series s como nueva gen no se sostiene

[@FabRx98]

@@techzonelabesp Es que en serio creo que la mayoria de personas en este mundo sabe que un ordenador de escritorio puede llegar a ser mucho mas potente que esas consolitas, por que hacen esto? :c

[@NV2A.indi.2021]

​@@FabRx98en series S , no se ve igual que en Series X . La gente se queja... Pero si fuera un juego de Sony o Nintendo , quizás con suerte saldría en PC en 5 años... Venga..

[@FabRx98]

@@NV2A.indi.2021 No entendí bien lo que quisiste decir xd

[@doritoscuro]

En la versión de consolas tampoco tiene nada que ver

[@180ballybollock]

Theve had all these years experience making forza,what's gone wrong this time around

[@sebastianafy]

Nadie dice que el juego no se vea increíble, pero no es el juego que nos mostraron el 2022 😞

[@TheMarcopalomares]

El analista apoya play station por eso hace estas comparativas

[@agyl2251]

​@@TheMarcopalomaresaja

[@EpicFormGamer]

​@@agyl2251busca cualquier Gameplay de Absolutamente Cualquier persona en KZbin que lo juegue en Ultra y verás que en cada escena va Mejor que lo que se ve en el vídeo, obviamente hay un Downgrade pero no es tan abismal y se limita más a cosas que literalmente eran innecesarias en el juego como las plantitas que habían en lugares que el jugador nunca vería o algunas Grietas que tampoco se apreciarían mientras corres, eran una carga absurda de recursos gastados innecesariamente, pero la iluminación en la versión Final no es tan mala como se ve en este video y ni muchísimo menos tan oscura, los reflejos también se ven de mayor calidad y muchas texturas en general, ya te digo que si hay un Downgrade comparado a lo visto en 2022, no lo niego para nada, pero no es un Downgrade como el que se ve en este video que literalmente parece un mal juego de Xbox One en algunos momentos, y ni hablar de los colores que en este video se ven extremadamente apagados y el juego realmente no se ve ni de cerca tan gris, hay un Bug cuando cambias los Gráficos y no reinicias el juego te suceden todos estos errores y Turn10 y Microsoft lanzaron un comunicado advirtiendolo, el Analista simplemente no le importó que su video está mal grabado y no lo eliminó y grabó de nuevo como realmente se debe.

[@silviubogdan2691]

What s with the sh***y washed out colors in all the new games?

[@PabloLopez-dt9kv]

SUPER DOWNGRADE FATALITY

[@senpaiobiwan]

Something's off with the lighting in the final game. It's still gorgeous btw, just a tiny bit of a letdown

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

medium vs ultra

[@ahmedp8009]

I said this the moment I saw the gameplay, It looked nothing like the reveal trailer. And it is no where as good as GT7, what were they doing all those years? They kept boasting about RT in gameplay and all this crap, but once it came our, they tried to distract everyone with "Look! we have new Tree models and 3D crowd!", in a racing game? who the fk cares! Turn 10 lied, but the fans will never admit it.

[@daniloperina9043]

Quando joguei já tinha percebido o downgrade. Alguns aspectos bizarros piores que o Forza motorsport 7. Mas agora vendo o video pude ter noção do quanto brutal foi o downgrade, extremamente desapontado com a Microsoft pois se trata de um jogo full next gen nessa situação.

[@muhamed23458]

Still the racing game with the best grafic ... 🙄😏. Looks still really good 😊

[@jamesw884]

No downgrade so you obviously only play gt

[@Luiz6432GD]

É realmente uma diferença, mas não chega a ser brutal comparado com a Ubisoft cara, eu senti isso no Gran turismo 7, mas ninguém falou nada

[@canaldomaestro]

Agradeça aos séries S kkk

[@bluraynetwork]

​@@canaldomaestroeu n falo é nada

[@Marcooss92]

sabia que n estava louco que não estava igual ao treiler prometido como sempre essas empresas mentem muito e cobrando absurdos por isso

[@MEHDIMIKEPORTNOY]

Massive downgrade

[@Ocelot1092]

Dioooos que mal se ve la vegetación en comparación con el Reveal, le quita mucho a lo bonito de los escenarios. Me la baja un montón :c