Why can’t people just let others enjoy games they like? I’m primarily a PlayStation player This gen but this looks pretty awesome. Every comment section is the same… “gran turismo is better”, “Xbox sucks so this must be a 3 outta 10”…. Seriously guys, you may want to get some perspective in your lives. It’s a just a video game that a lot of people are gonna enjoy. I love my hobby but the video game fan base is fucking awful. People who will actively spend free time watching videos for stuff they hate then shitting on people who are excited. I seriously hope most of these comments come from people under the age of 10…. I really do
@anth3277 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you, It's sad people criticise others for games they enjoy, As a ps5 and series S owner I enjoy both consoles, both have strengths and weaknesses, This game looks really fun though!!
@sjsharp2007 Жыл бұрын
@@anth3277 I agree I enjo ygames that both consoles make for me it's not about the plastic box but the games themselves. Th eplastic box is jus ta means to an end for playing them . Whilst of the 2 I prefer Forza over Gran tourismo GT feels abi ttoo sim like whereas Forza feels a bit more forgiving as it's a bit more simcade a bit moer like Codemasters F1 and Grid games which I prefer but I do think both have their place and market. I think it really depends more on what you look for in a game as to whic hyou'll find better as a lot of Xbox games generall ylean towards having better and a more rmultiplaye rexperience like with Forza and Halo whereas Playstation on the other hand tend to lean moer t ohavin gbetter single player offerings like the Spiderman and Horizon games . I generally lean towards moe rsingle playre games like Horizon mainly because playing wit hothers can b etrick ywith my disability but I do enjoy shootin gup the Covenant in Halo and racing against the drivatars in Forza so I'm looking forward to the new game just as I'm lookin gforward t oplaying Forbidden West next year.
@formulaic78 Жыл бұрын
People are tribal and some especially so. This doesn't just happen with videogames but also politics and many other areas where people develop tribal affiliations.
@michaelh3715 Жыл бұрын
Well said. I have both consoles as I always do each gen. Xbox is my main and I use ps5 for Sony exclusives. I loved gt7 and I’m sure I will love this new Forza. It’s just video games like u said, play what you like
@sjsharp2007 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelh3715 Yeah PC is my main though I have had both Xbox and PS's over the years. I generally play most PS games when they releas eto PC these days as I switched to Xbox durin gthe XB1 era as I was curious to try Forza and Halo out because at thattim eMicrosof t hadn't yet decided to release the games to PC and I was curious to try my hand at the Master Chief collection.I do have a series X but that's mainly for the games I bought on my XB1 after my XB1 died s oI coul dstill continue t opla ythem thanks t othe backwards compatibility plus I wanted to trty the Hypermotoin stuf ftha twas bein gintroduced int oFifa and things as EA tend to get introduce stuff like that to consoles first then PC's later.
@douubledog4008 Жыл бұрын
I've already watched a bunch of reviews and this one is SOLID... Well done guys!
@ahmad1080p Жыл бұрын
the way headlights lit the smoke from tires is just incredible.
@trancepower1205 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that's nothing new..
@runninginthe90s75 Жыл бұрын
@trancepower1205 Cry much PS ponies ? 🤡
@af4396 Жыл бұрын
@@runninginthe90s75 Honestly, the lighting in GT7 is far superior, so regardless of which "side" you're on, that's just a truth. GT7 doesn't just have the best lighting of any racing game, it possibly has the best lighting in any game, and the best material work of any game. The rest is arguable and up to personal taste, but lighting is something Polyphony should be extremely proud of, they killed it.
@mk-qm3qk Жыл бұрын
@@af4396I don't know how you can say gt7 has better lighting when one you haven't played Forza and two gt7 has no on track ray tracing
@957ad Жыл бұрын
This looks great, I found Forza horizon had a bit too much going on but this looks nice to just come in and race
@XOPNYE Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Just machine v machine baby!
@superman37876 Жыл бұрын
Check out The Crew Motorsport. It seems like Forza back in the day without too much going on. However, super excited for Forza Motorsport!
@mcbane6240 Жыл бұрын
@@superman37876Motorfest
@pasqualahalla4178 Жыл бұрын
@@superman37876 this has to be a joke 😂
@taurussho86 Жыл бұрын
@@superman37876they literally have more types of vehicles to drive
@jonathanhijlkema8247 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to playing this!
@theMaster... Жыл бұрын
Will put several hundred hours into this like I have all previous Forza titles...
@andrewtw69 Жыл бұрын
For me, the small amount of tracks at launch will be the reason I wait to get the game. FM7 has 32 tracks and 120 different track variations in comparison. I know the developers will try to release a new track each month, so they will eventually catch up. And I know when new tracks are released, they will look amazing because they are all rebuilt from the ground up. This will also give them time to work out any major bugs and fine tune the force feedback for all the different wheels.
@eSKAone- Жыл бұрын
Maybe they should have done this before release
@nrXic Жыл бұрын
@@eSKAone-Then they would have to delay it for quite a while. What they're doing is they're laser scanning the tracks and so it takes a bit of time. They're all free and will be out when ready. I don't blame anyone waiting. I bought Street Fighter 5 on day one and felt ripped off. Street Fighter 6 was better but I still feel the added characters should be free for the first year. Everyone has to make that determination for themselves. But I think developers coming out with a good amount of content to chew on with free updates later isn't a bad plan compared to delaying it for years with all the content. The other benefit is that user feedback can result in added features and fixes to design. I wouldn't be saying this if what we were getting wasn't worth the full price we're paying for it. It's a really good amount of content.
@Moonfaster Жыл бұрын
How are the replays? Do the cameras feel natural and hand held or are they digitaly pixelperfect stuck to the center of the cars?
@robdebone Жыл бұрын
I prefer these to the horizon and I'm pretty casual. I just can't stand mindless open worlds where I spend more time driving to my mission than I do in race and not to mention the cringe festival gen z vibes
@86yuho39 Жыл бұрын
Night race in rain looks stunning
@Josh-is8it Жыл бұрын
My brain actually goes to sleep when people start talking about the upgrade system in this game….
@simonoregan4744 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I couldn't agree more. MP racing that functions is already a roll of the dice, few games have gotten it right, and Ive played them all. Now they want to increase the barrier to entry. I stick to games that respect my time. I just want to be able to jump into an online MP race and have that race be based on driving skills not some RPG system. I'm not optimistic. Ill stick with Gamepass for now.
@shaundavidssd Жыл бұрын
You clearly don't understand it lol
@shaundavidssd Жыл бұрын
@simonoregan4744 wtf are you on about? Rpg? Have you ever seen a racing season? Do you know they make little upgrades during a season? Not engine swaps ? Made it realistic and you moan? They race ,data collected ,upgrade ,race more collect data upgrades .....doh
@andrewborody Жыл бұрын
lol now that you mention it, mine does to. 😅
@Josh-is8it Жыл бұрын
@@shaundavidssd oh I understand it, I just don’t much care for it in a Forza game.
@Nikinjapan Жыл бұрын
For me the sound seems to be the biggest upgrade just watching this review
@martijnnvt6949 Жыл бұрын
Well, still sounds bad.
@runninginthe90s75 Жыл бұрын
@martijnnvt6949 L take
@Shift4g Жыл бұрын
The sound is great imo, especially the sound of other cars you are next to or behind when you are diving into a corner under hard breaking and dropping a few gears. The attention to those details have returned.
@quebecpower978 Жыл бұрын
The dude who worked on the sounds should be FIRED.
@3KPK3 Жыл бұрын
RT in game looks sick! Easily one of the best looking games of all-time!
@S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын
Wish I could experience it. We have WRC coming up fellas! I remember those early Dirt days. Dirt 2 with the Baja trucks - where are the baja trucks nowadays
@nickyoceansyde Жыл бұрын
So I’m seeing most media reviewers love this game. Most gamers don’t. The floaty physics, washed out and inconsistent graphics, terrible progression and lack of content are dragging the game down amongst gamers. Why does the media love it so much?
@Edwins1984 Жыл бұрын
Was distracted by that driving line in every gameplay footage, game any good? xD
@EB720S Жыл бұрын
Setting new standards where I don't see everything that u mentioned in the review was done before in gran turismo and other simulators it's a nice evolution for forza and a big step from the previous games but nothing gener defining here for me at least
@rastaman1873 Жыл бұрын
Ohh shut up
@frantz4g63 Жыл бұрын
Punctuation please. I had a hard time trying to separate what you wrote to understand it all. To the last part you said, I agree. It's a step in the right direction, but it's not game changing from a genre-wide perspective. Then again, if it's any better than FM7, it's a good look for the franchise.
@rinaa6865 Жыл бұрын
Gran turismo!! 😂 , That's the game where they didn't include the Microtransactions in the review copys but were added to the actual game on release, resulting in bogus review scores.
@naterod Жыл бұрын
Wait for AC2.
@EB720S Жыл бұрын
@@rinaa6865 i care about the looks and the game play the reviews are not important for me i agree micro transaction hurt the games but in general if the game was good i am ok
@DonnePablico Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to drive at spa with type r
@Crazytrain334 Жыл бұрын
does the game have wec as an option in career mode i so wanna do a wec career and i dont wanna wait for lemans ultimate
@mels_life1 Жыл бұрын
The Z06 sounds so good in Hakone when you’re passing by the line with all that echo😩 I’m obsessex
@5150puck Жыл бұрын
I would personally play wreckfest for the first 30 days. Same experience just more fun. May Try after 30 but honestly the cars still look like they are floating on the track. Every for a has been like that
@pikkyuukyuun4741 Жыл бұрын
Im sorry, setting new standards? We already have games with dynamic weather & time, tyre wear degradation, getting hit results in you losing control (wow next gen physics right here) It may be a good game on its own right but it aint reinventing the wheel here
@My40Love Жыл бұрын
Good, but that's max, nothing more than that.. probably just decent, based on some reviews
@Choppacity80491 Жыл бұрын
Does forza Motorsport have game chat?
@Xrm550 Жыл бұрын
Your background music doesn't match this video at all. Just saying
@Archy871 Жыл бұрын
I’ll Probably spend the most of my time in rivals. Leveling up my cars before hitting career mode
@VidiSLTU Жыл бұрын
GT7 left the chat
@UzumakiNagato Жыл бұрын
Why do people have the urge to always compare these two games like everything else in general... Besides, It's not even in the same plateform!!
@mr.madhatter5538 Жыл бұрын
@uzumakinagato6545 it's origins was supposed to be an answer for grand tourismo on xbox. There's history behind the rivalry. Rivalry creates better games.
@UzumakiNagato Жыл бұрын
@@mr.madhatter5538 It's just toxicity at this point
@StylishBoy-mz1gc Жыл бұрын
🤣
@recommended4134 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a diesel van in real life that could go around corners faster than the cars could on Forza
@ProfessorChaos2050 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed forza motorsport on my xbox series x but it just brung me back to gran turismo 7 on my playstation 5. I mean leveling your cars to level max 50 isn't bad but can be annoying for some people on forza motorsport. At least with gran turismo 7 you don't have to spend credits to use certain cars for the races like in forza motorsport.
@redda2 Жыл бұрын
Does it work on Steam Deck?
@dnice362 Жыл бұрын
Which performance mode is best
@UncleBearLit Жыл бұрын
Performance RT
@dnice362 Жыл бұрын
@@UncleBearLit is that the recommended one? I get to play tonight at midnight so just trying to figure it out
@UncleBearLit Жыл бұрын
Yeah Digital Foundry recommended it and it gives you the best of both worlds at 60FPS@@dnice362
@dannyCoolSwag Жыл бұрын
@@UncleBearLititz 1440p over 4k 60 idk man
@UncleBearLit Жыл бұрын
@@dannyCoolSwag it's dynamic 4K at 60hz
@AceEccentricF1 Жыл бұрын
Is there still a 60 fps frame limit on pc multiplayer?
@adegbrs3838 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@_alpHa_male_ Жыл бұрын
No
@pasqualahalla4178 Жыл бұрын
No frame limit on pc, idk what this guys going on about above us
@adegbrs3838 Жыл бұрын
@@pasqualahalla4178 multiplayer is locked to 60
@pasqualahalla4178 Жыл бұрын
@@adegbrs3838 I’m literally playing at 144 but keep spreading lies, you’re confused with console
@anthonydry5265 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what people are complaining about. I definitely feel that there’s too much scrutiny these days and not enough enjoyment. It’s a really good game it just lacks some Tracks and cars but they will come in time.
@_ShrewdJude Жыл бұрын
Cant wait got my new sparco wheel in anticipation looking forward to sliding
@dark2deeds Жыл бұрын
i cant play until 21st iam on holiday but iam going to try on the cloud if its available but holiday apartments usually haverubbish internet so will have to see
@sebastianberger746 Жыл бұрын
The Main question is will it finally have a decent MP?
@trenken Жыл бұрын
Multiplayer has always been excellent in forza.
@sebastianberger746 Жыл бұрын
@@trenken Not for me. In my eyes Most horrible online races ever. In Forza 4 it was OK and even a qualifiying was possible. But than it get worse and worse. They should at least give people the oppertunity to have a Bit more serious racing. I dont See any Motorsport in Forza anymore.
@trenken Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianberger746 never was an issue for me. MP was always banging af in forza since the first one. Never had any issues with it.
@khalieloe Жыл бұрын
Hey! I just tested it and its amazing, every race feels exciting and u really need to focus to not mess up, you need to participate in 3 qualifier events and then u can access open and spec events that is happing every 15 mins-ish! Way better than any other motorsport!
@sebastianberger746 Жыл бұрын
@@khalieloe so is there a Rating system to bring similar pilots together? Are there sensefull lobbies with good Car Combination to have a decent competition? Are there longer races? How many players can be on the track? Do Turn 10 gonna do Special Events or tournaments?Is there a qualifiying before the race starts? IS the Avater of my Driver finally a good useful Feature? Is a Driver swap possible? How good is the damage model( i dont talk about visual effekts) more about how it feel. can a tiere blow Up, can the engine been totally destroyed? They promised more Motorsport but the cake was probably a lie. I think they Just concentrate to make Ray Tracing work with 60fps and spent much to much effort and recources into it.
@johnja9017 Жыл бұрын
Every video clip shown in this video, shows him crashing into another car. So why do people get mad when you tell them that crashing into cars in part of the game. If you want a clean race, play Iracing.
@Gamelander Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to jump in
@Epetr0 Жыл бұрын
Night racing at mid Ohio looks wild
@cynicaltruth7486 Жыл бұрын
Video editor - maybe cut in some actual audio from the game when they talk about the games audio.
@pad9x Жыл бұрын
honestly i have to say these visuals look better than gran turismo
@dannyv5925 Жыл бұрын
Time to dust off the ol' fanatec steering wheel...
@jonasmatthys3597 Жыл бұрын
Wow great review 👌
@quickscopeoneeighty9158 Жыл бұрын
From what I hear, I don't think Im a Fan of Individual car Level and would much rather have the FM6 model of Manufaktur affinity
@vika0194 Жыл бұрын
the flames from the exhausts is so annoying to see.
@jatats7743 Жыл бұрын
Almost sounds like this is an advertisement...
@SirCamWA Жыл бұрын
paid
@Harly206 Жыл бұрын
Whys this gameplay look better than IGNS wow
@Streetdisciple27 Жыл бұрын
Is this coming to ps5? I bought a steering wheel for it
@praesodymium Жыл бұрын
xbox and pc exclusive
@praesodymium Жыл бұрын
and also, do research before you buy shit
@jeffbgaming786 Жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo is better then Forza Motorsport.
@rodrigopinchiari4027 Жыл бұрын
This game is gorgeous!
@recommended4134 Жыл бұрын
Do you still get that silly screechy sound and unrealistic understeer at 40 miles an hour around around corners?
@chargasm712 Жыл бұрын
Good review
@GadgetMan777 Жыл бұрын
Looks great overall but overall between gt7 and the new Forza Motorsport, racing sims look a bit....stale these days. They used to be the graphic showcases but imo games like Forza Horizon seem to have taken the torch in that aspect
@bretburner2962 Жыл бұрын
How is it stale when there's only a few true Sims? Not to mention they're not annual releases.
@rinaa6865 Жыл бұрын
Looks amazing.
@magikmike22 Жыл бұрын
"One of the best games in the series". Yeah, unsubscribed after that comment🤣 Joke.
@anthonyrobbins8767 Жыл бұрын
I hope this isn't the new "standard". Constant online connection for me to play what??? Single player experience. Get bent Turn 10. What a joke. Worst forza I haven't played.
@OugaBoogaShockwave Жыл бұрын
WTF ? always online even for SP ? if that is true i'am skipping this game like i did FM5.
@benn87 Жыл бұрын
@@OugaBoogaShockwave Its true...
@OugaBoogaShockwave Жыл бұрын
@@benn87 then FOOK this game, i am skipping it till fm 2.0...............this is going to be a DLC fook your wallet fest & you won't own it when servers shut down
@Mark-mu4pj Жыл бұрын
The game looks brilliant
@5150puck Жыл бұрын
Let us know how that goes. Most have said it’s not great (super gt etc….)
@Mark-mu4pj Жыл бұрын
@@5150puck Actually Super GTs last video playing online he had a good time.
@mattmanley7118 Жыл бұрын
I’m so ready! I hope it’s everything I wished for
@russlikely1137 Жыл бұрын
After playing for six hours looks like a copy and paste
@MartinDoms Жыл бұрын
Using the line assist disqualifies you from having an opinion on racing games.
@dannyCoolSwag Жыл бұрын
Why I use the line
@SrNuno-tl5kc Жыл бұрын
@@dannyCoolSwagbut you Don't get payed to tell others what you think about the game (that you're supposed to be good at)...
@Railien24 Жыл бұрын
Played two races and was immediately bored. 500k in the bank so I bought a old muscle car. Turns out, there was not one race I could use it in. I had to sit and play career mode for prly a solid hour before I got the ability to choose the muscle car races. Crap game, not even worth the $33 i put in for early access.
@DoubleD455 Жыл бұрын
'feel the deformation of the tires'? you defo got paid for this review.
@mk-qm3qk Жыл бұрын
On track ray tracing looks incredible. Never thought ide aee this in a racing game on console . Not this gen anyway
@KesMonkey Жыл бұрын
You're still pronouning Forza incorrectly. Fort-za.
@robwilleford3737 Жыл бұрын
Not a review, didn't even bring up FFB and driving with a wheel.... hmmmm don't let us down again BG!
@kevondouglas4088 Жыл бұрын
It feels awesome on a wheel similar to pc2
@lordnaz666 Жыл бұрын
Its hard to take a review for a driving game seriously when all the footage is captured with the suggested driving line left on. Noob alert 🚨
@monabear7287 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you forgot the /S because this is a failure of historic proportions. Stripped down, empty, devoid of feeling and content, glitchy af, painfully grindy upgrade system w many cars having almost NO upgrades, etc. Turn10 needs to be put out of business. 6.5y and they clearly need at least 20 more months.
@drunkhusband625711 ай бұрын
Playing a racing game in 3rd person....absolutely disgusting...
@quebecpower978 Жыл бұрын
9????????????? NINE????????????????????????????????????? IT'S A 5 AT BEST!
@OugaBoogaShockwave Жыл бұрын
i'll test it with game pass & later on see the PC reviews. Most likely i'll wait for the 1st or 2nd sale like i did with FH5. Only Forza game i don't have is FM5 & that's cause i was waiting for back compatibility of FM1-4. I am angry MS still hasn't allowed owners of FM1-4 to play it on their xbone.
@IGOBYTHENAMELOVE Жыл бұрын
I don’t like horizon because there’s no people in the streets
@REE-Animation Жыл бұрын
You can hear and feel the tire deformation? Come on man. Let’s be real here. Sorry, can’t watch the rest of the video after that.. What is it with reviewers today?
@Rob-gs8lq Жыл бұрын
Sound plays a big role in FM and with rumble feature, I'm sure the devs have integrated a feel for how tires degrade under different wheather conditions. This was not just mentioned or brought up by Gamingbolt, but by another reviewer of the preview build as well.
@pixeljauntvr7774 Жыл бұрын
KZbin commenter that hasn't played the game wishes to correct hands on professional reviewer that has. Sorry, I'll go with the reviewers opinion on this matter over yours.
@naterod Жыл бұрын
I’ll go with reviewers I know are into the sim racing genre. There’s people who like racing games then there’s sim racers. This seems like something I’d enjoy when I want a break from qaulis setups and practices for an hour before race weekend even starts.
@raymcdougal420 Жыл бұрын
Xbox gamepass such a gamer friendly zone ❤
@andreasmoller9798 Жыл бұрын
Dosen’t look promising at all, another incomplete game at launch, and it dosen’t bring anything new to genre that other are already doing, guess i wait a year way to incomplete, this is first forza motorsport that holds no hype for me, and the first one i am not buying day one
@Savage80 Жыл бұрын
Cars look great but the rest of the game looks washed out in color
@wouterstevens9538 Жыл бұрын
All the nice tracks are gone . It s stupid. Halo infinite was halfbaked...now this one also. Better off playing forza 7
@kevondouglas4088 Жыл бұрын
The game has bad anti aliasing
@kevondouglas4088 Жыл бұрын
I hope they smooth it in the future
@garylee8171 Жыл бұрын
Can anybody on the internet drive without that stupid racing line on? Really?
@hpickettz34 Жыл бұрын
Meh, no vr mode.
@xcross20 Жыл бұрын
9/10
@kbthegoat824 Жыл бұрын
gt7 10/10
@MrkZndstr Жыл бұрын
@@kbthegoat824lol. GT is getting pooped on in recent videos after the latest update. Go worry about your own dead game instead of talking down Forza.
@Haybud Жыл бұрын
@@kbthegoat824 I’ll never forget that GT7 had to hide their micro transactions because they knew that it would lower their overall scores. They released them a couple of days after the reviews were posted with a patch.
@rinaa6865 Жыл бұрын
@@kbthegoat824 Have you forgotten GT7 Microtransactions were NOT in the reviewers copys of the game!!, But were then added to the game on release ? GT7 scores are null and void.
@rastaman1873 Жыл бұрын
@@kbthegoat824gran turismo is shit
@luckythakur1832 Жыл бұрын
Man xbox is on fire hifi rush than starfield now this ❤❤❤
@boombuleh2149 Жыл бұрын
people that play with driver lines shouldn't be reviewing a sim racer.
@erikmichaelmorin1353 Жыл бұрын
lol
@RayRiv73 Жыл бұрын
Facts 😂
@WhySoSerious452 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Blueesteel_ Жыл бұрын
Agree
@sportislife4012 Жыл бұрын
Yeah- that's a pretty fair statement 👌
@youtubeaddict9393 Жыл бұрын
Everything sounds nice about the game but fuck that car leveling shit. On FM7 I’d play with my brother and we’d build random cars for drag racing. I’d have to grab said car, do a few races in it, then I can upgrade it to my hearts extent. That’s just an unnecessarily tedious feature. Also, I heard they got rid of “no lift shifting” as apparently they fixed a “powe shift glitch”. So for those that care, don’t do that
@jegjrtp87 Жыл бұрын
Boring
@rainey06au Жыл бұрын
Lol how is this a 9 when it's got less cars and tracks than its predecessor, has no more local multiplayer, and it looks completely washed out in visuals...
@EljansLife Жыл бұрын
Looks boring. Thank you next.
@stinkybeam Жыл бұрын
the graphics look bad compared to Horizon 5. Motorsport looks like a PS4 game base on all of those youtube video I watched so far
@adityan3208 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know any game from PS 4 generation had such nice ray traced reflections
@MrkZndstr Жыл бұрын
Looks great to me. The lighting and environmental detail look awesome in this (compressed youtube) video. No reason anymore to skip the rainy or night races. Exciting stuff!
@coffee7180 Жыл бұрын
youtube compression is going hard this days but another thing is film grain, making games look even more washed out, you can turn that shit off.
@naterod Жыл бұрын
There’s plenty to hate on with this, the graphics definitely are not it. The graphics are fucking phenomenal
@Mcfigg Жыл бұрын
These graphics are awesome definitely better than GT 7…which is expected it’s a ps4 game hopefully the gameplay is good.
@pieterbalk-ht7kq Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha the carpoints in this preview version will be changed in the final version so you are forced to BUY extra credit to progress or go through an endless grind to even make the slightest progression. Project Cars 2 in 2017 had all this what Forza offers aswell and propably done BETTER and about 3x the tracks. Turn 10 simply cuts the tracks in half adds barely anything new and then charges us ij the future for additional “refurbished” old tracks. It’s a disgrace! And yes PCARS2 also charged for additional tracks but those were truely additional ones and newly designed tracks that were offered as extra content over the already insane number of varying tracks in the original game. Gaming, and I mean REAL gaming which was fun, entertaining and a realistic challenge, is dead @GamingBolt