Is Forza Motorsport BETTER Than GT7? | Forza Motorsport Review

[@Super_GT]

I appreciate this comparison, it's well put together - however I don't particularly appreciate simply taking all of my footage for your own use. Could have at least made an attempt to ask first, or simply record your own!

[@topsplitgg]

No excuses from me; I shouldn't have done it. Taking shortcuts is never the answer. Big fan of yours, and that was a big no-no. Lesson learned!

[@MetalGamer666]

Yikes... I'm not sure that's good enough. Re-upload with your own footage, or at the very least credit all "borrowed" footage in the video description with time stamps.

[@bwest6275]

@@topsplitggbruhh the lesson to learn is to take this down and redo it. You’re lucky you got a “nice” warning.

[@pnessi570]

@@bwest6275seconded

[@supergdk5335]

WHAT SUPERGT

[@TwoFoxGibbon]

They both have good and bad takes. Pro for GT7: Ability to change fuel mixture, TCS, brake bias, etc in race is a huge plus. Pro for FM: There's actual telemetry to use to tune more effectively. Pro for GT7: Creating liveries is much easier. Pro for FM: Car cost is very manageable, especially considering parts are now changed with CP, so all cash rewards can be devoted to buying cars. Pro for GT7: License tests. *chefs kiss* Pro for FM: The AI, after the initial chaos is very good. Pro for GT7: Full list of GT3/4 cars. While outdated, at least a big list of manufacturers exist. Cons for GT7 and FM: The Grind. For GT7, it's to get cash. For FM, it's leveling cars. Cons continued: Both games fail at what is considered a Career Mode.

[@topsplitgg]

Fantastic breakdown! Both games suffer from a lack of up-to-date cars - I hope we can see more modern machines in updates to both!

[@jcharriaon5424]

As it relates to graphics?

[@linzkirk]

There is one major pro to GT7 FM probably won't get., it and its VR with PSVR2. I have played racing sims for years, AC,ACC project cars, dirt rally, iRacing and IMO GT7 in VR with a decent wheel and cockpit is one of the best driving sim experiences ive ever had. But I try the nee Forza and get my own experience.

[@suvann540i]

Wait,... did you just chef's kiss license tests? ROTFL. i've hated them since the OG GT on ps1. So mind numbingly boring and equally frustrating.

[@codyjackson5648]

Yeah, I feel like careers used to be you get 1 car and do a bunch of races with it. Career felt like you and your car around the world.

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

that sounded remarkably like a commercial and not a review..

[@jamesdenton6370]

Totally totally totally disagree that GT is worlds behind this on a controller… The controller feel and the haptics of the PlayStation controller as you CLUNK into a different gear or bump over a curb are absolutely transformative and feel much better than this does. I love FM, I’ve been addicted to it since it dropped and agree with a lot of your points but that one is completely wrong imho

[@MK-oe8lu]

Vollkommen richtig 👍🏻

[@that_biker_boy5550]

Honestly... Having now played FM For a good period of time... GT7 has NOTHING to worry about currently! PMSL! 🤣

[@dadsteps]

I disagree with forza feeling better to play on game pad than gt7 - gt7 feels great due to the dual sense integration, you really feel how your car behaves due to this. Not that forza feels bad it’s just it can’t compete with a superior game pad. Also I would recommend anyone to play on performance rather than performance RT - the resolution improvement is quite stark and it makes the game easier to play, it also seems to improve textures particularly on cars in front of you which seem to be a lower LOD level on performance RT

[@topsplitgg]

GT7 definitely has advantages with the PS-specific integrations for sure! The resolution changes on Performance RT can be a bit funky on certain tracks & in certain conditions; if you’re all about outright speed then Performance is the way to go!

[@willierhone6244]

@dadsteps: The creators of GT7 tells you physics and how the car performs and handles on the track is their #1 priority, and to be as much of a real "Car Sim as it can. Nothing has changed, people try to compare two different types of games with different goals.

[@suvann540i]

I disagree with your take on the controller. On dualsense the resistence on the gas/brake pretty much goes dead when you lose grip, but doesn't exactly do a great job telling you when you're ABOUT to lose grip. This is what FM does excellently. Look, the dualsense is a FAR superior controller overall for all it's amazing haptics (i still think xbox has a more ergonomic design), but how it's implemented in gt7, while prior to FM i thought was amazing, I've now changed my mind after trying FM. Now back to my fanatec DD1 :).

[@dadsteps]

@@suvann540i that’s fair, I haven’t actually gone back to GT7 yet after forza so it’s possible my opinion will change. How is each game with the DD1? I’ve never tried a gaming wheel before, I LOVE racing games but not sure I can justify the expense to my wife 😢😂

[@suvann540i]

@@dadsteps Keep in mind that I play forza on PC fwiw. For me, after spending a bunch of time tweaking advanced inputs i can say that i prefer the wheel on FM, primarily because you can tune feedback per car, AND, i can get ffb much stronger than on gt7. I just wish apexes were more pronounced. Also road feel in the wheel feels better to me on FM. especially in the wet. not sure what it is, but it's more predictable to correct . And one last thing is, my H pattern shifter won't work with gt7. it's super annoying. Works perfectly on PC with FM. HOWEVER, both games are terrible compared to the kings of sims on PC (iracing, assetto corsa competizione, assetto corsa, rfactor).

[@AKlover]

Only the front 6 cars in FM are actual opponents. Expect contact on launch and expect about three of those six to have an unnatural boost in performance temporarily. Yes I am suggesting the games AI temporarily boost some of the cars

[@camrsr5463]

I am a forza guy. The only GT games I played were 3 and 4. For some reason I prefer the hood camera. I think it gives me a better idea of what the front is doing while turning.

[@topsplitgg]

The hood camera does give you a great central camera angle!

[@theaustralianconundrum]

Only driveable view for me is in cockpit. Any other view is arcade. Forza Motorsport vehicles do contain same polygon count as GT7 however to achieve native 4K @ 60fps, Forza halves them when driving, in race or replays. In photo mode this changes to 1,000,000 and they look fantastic.@@topsplitgg

[@i8nm3gp]

Gt7 beats forza only in car physics and handling otherwise I'd choose forza for its car and track list. Kazunori needs to catch a wake up.

[@MasterChief3624]

I watched through the whole video and didn't see any real comparisons to Gran Turismo 7. Did I miss them? Maybe I expected the wrong stuff, but with the way the title was worded and the description was worded, I thought you were going to compare the two games.

[@electronbashful540]

GT7 is best, period

[@presentjr]

Grand Turismo all the way

[@Husariusz_PL]

New Forza Motorsport don't have local splitscreen ,that sucks !

[@clive0494]

Engine sound is its weakest point. Too cartoonish feels off. And limited tracks with all circuits. Where tf is nurburging?

[@topsplitgg]

Coming in Spring 2024 - got a while to go!

[@clive0494]

@@topsplitgg that would be nice, i hope they fix engine sound too for more immersion like gt7. Its souns mushy compared to fm7.

[@andrewcurtis4568]

3:51 "You're really not missing out by using a gamepad" okay Logitech boy, now go try a direct drive wheel.

[@topsplitgg]

Laptime difference is negligible - I prefer using my DD and loadcells, but it’s nice to know know you can chill on the couch without sacrificing too much speed!

[@syn9791]

it doesn't matter what is better from a consumer pov, because they are exclusive to their platforms.

[@shashankars3632]

True

[@topsplitgg]

Good point! Great for Xbox fans to get a next-gen competitor too!

[@nickyoceansyde]

I have a PS5 and a Series X so for me it matters. Don’t have time for both lol. Though i did get gt7 and keep putting time in. If gamepass convinces me to buy Forza, I may switch. Graphics on cars look worse but environments look great!

[@baffledsquirrel2122]

Yes but gt your car is always middle of the screen forza your car willturn a bit so you can tell it’s turning there are 0 bumps on the road….. best way I’ve heard so far is forza your car moves around the truck gt the track moves around your car.

[@SheepAmongG.O.A.T]

If you're on PC it doesn't matter either. Forza it is.

[@ken1998Channel]

I Like Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo 7

[@ForburyLion]

Worth mentioning that Forza Motorsport is a day 1 release on Gamepass, which is the only reason I've not purchased a copy as I have 3 years game pass ultimate stacked up - I might buy it in 3 years time.

[@topsplitgg]

Very good point!

[@carnage1587]

I have had it since the 5th I don't need game pass its not worth my time

[@satanist6481]

Why would you waste your game pass like that the game sucks , even if its free on game pass , Just because a pile of dog shit is free dosen't take away from the fact its shit even if it came from a dog instead of bull or horse

[@mikeuk666]

​@@satanist6481clueless kid

[@onixxx1984]

Gt 7 has haptic feedback and adaptive triggers that mimick abs and lock up, so it is not even fair to compare the two games on controllers.

[@panamike6178]

@@joepss7946 yeah after 3 years and biting off Sony.

[@onixxx1984]

@@panamike6178 I tried Forza yesterday, and I downloaded dualsensex program, but still the game does not recognize a ps5 controller, the steering is awful, it jumps from full lock to full lock, no progression on L2 and R2, comnpared to GT7 it is trash, and GT7 was awesome on the controllers and not to mention VR, the want to hypoe up every xbox game on microsoft money, but sofar ps5 is wiping the floor with xbox, eversince Starfield is a mediocre game and Redfall is the worst fail ever, sony even if they are slow to release the games, the ones sofar are all good quality.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@onixxx1984clueless kid

[@86lanzo]

@@onixxx1984 yep that's an unbiased opinion ..lol

[@onixxx1984]

@@86lanzo Tell me your non biased opinion on the matter, what is xbox`s answer to haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, dedicated psvr2, and inhous studios with exclusives. I am lucky to own both a gaming pc with an xbox game pass, and a ps5 with ps plus extra, and I buy most of the new games used on blue ray for half the price than on playstore. The only thing xbox has the edge on game pass, they provide AA titles like Lies of P, Atomic Heart, and their inhouse studio games day one launch for free, that ps plus cannot give for free, but xbox game pass cannot give third party titles day one for free like AC Mirage, Mk 1 etc.

[@seanhomar5945]

I like the game, but I hate the fact you don't earn your starting position for the race,instead, you get to choose where you start on the grid in career mode. I don't like that.

[@philldobson7593]

Gt7 does vr end of conversation

[@mrarmy8744]

Doesn't matter

[@MrGulyo]

For me both…but now Forza, but they have strognesses and weaknesses. GT is too sterile to me, Forza has more immersion.

[@topsplitgg]

Interesting! What do you think Forza is doing better than GT7?

[@GTSW1FT]

Big agree on GRAN TURSIMO becoming incredibly sterile, from what I've seen gt7 has non of the style of the ps2 gt games that I grew up with. And it seems they have forgotten how to make a good single player campaign, but I don't get why forza didn't bring back the manufacturer levels where you get a discount on parts or car from that manufacturer

[@andreasmoller9798]

You will get more immersion on gt7 considering you can play that in vr

[@kurtburns2758]

Ive poured nearly 200 hours into GT7 and GT7 with the dualsense and PSVR2 is miles ahead of Forza.

[@wayner7263]

Simple answer: yes.

[@basshead.]

I haven't played GT7, but if it's somewhat similar to GT4 then FM8 isn't better than GT7.

[@BucketofTrash]

Lol not even close

[@Michael-ws6ng]

good video, I thought you had atleast 20k subs or so, but I was pretty surprised when I saw you only had 300 subscribers lol, keep it up man!

[@topsplitgg]

Much appreciated dude, thank you!

[@ishaqgt946]

No second thoughts. Forza forever 😎

[@andipajeroking]

It comes down on Forza s career mode. Is it good? Has a good depth, progression and difficulty? GT career mode is a joke,

[@topsplitgg]

Difficulty is fantastic - plenty of options to tailor it to you, and the AI are a challenge at higher difficulties! Progression is pretty linear, and the Practice sessions can get repetitive, but you can skip them. It doesn’t surpass GT3 (my favourite Career mode system) in my opinion, but it’s pretty good!

[@acurisur]

GT7's career mode felt like I was supposed to be playing an RPG in a café at times.

[@andreasmoller9798]

It might be able to rival gt7, but its not better than gt7 in its current state thats for sure

[@topsplitgg]

Do you think Forza will properly rival GT7 in 12 months time? 🤔

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@topsplitgg we will have to wait and see, gt7 needs competetion, Without competetion no racing game will be their best they can be

[@kinghell9061]

You have to be kidding me? Having played both for many hours I'd have to say that Forza wins hands down.

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@kinghell9061 not for me to many issues with the new forza currently, gt7 still has flaws, but the new fm has even more issues

[@kinghell9061]

@@andreasmoller9798 like what? All I’m seeing is slightly too aggressive/bumpy ai off at the start and a repetitive collision noise. Otherwise it’s the best racer yet.

[@ariasgamingcr]

I prefer GT7 but this is rhe first Forza in history that can really compete against GT

[@topsplitgg]

The next 12 months of updates for both games will be interesting for sure!

[@ariasgamingcr]

@@topsplitgg yes, for real

[@Michael_Afton40]

There was this game called FM4

[@3n1fss]

You clearly haven’t played much Forza lol

[@ariasgamingcr]

@@3n1fss I play since FM3

[@SergioLXIX]

I've playing since Oct 5th and the more I play the more I love it. It brings FM4 memories but only much better. IMO AI is bit weird and stupid, hopefully T10 can fix it with update. Content of the game is great also, both in single and multiplayer. Livery editor is better in GT7 imo.

[@topsplitgg]

Glad to hear you’re enjoying it! Once you learn how the AI behaves, they do become a bit predictable - still a much greater challenge than in GT7 though!

[@117johnpar]

Ah yes, the singleplayer content that has Zero Racecar series and lasts about 12 hours. ITS GREAT

[@icemaniceburg2390]

Who ever came up with the practice session need to be smacked at turn 10. I get the idea, but why pace the AI so that they are slowed down to be at every corner disrupting your racing line. Second issue is still why are the AI able to out accelerate you from the start, and be useless everywhere else a lap into your race. Wish they can fix the AI situation

[@SergioLXIX]

​@@icemaniceburg2390absolutely true. AI drivers haven't as sophisticated as Turn10 said they would😂

[@KarnageKollectibles]

Own both and I always end up back on GT7. GT7 supporting the PSVR2 is the cherry on top! I also just love the simplicity of the menus in GT. It’s always been so good. The only thing Forza had on GT back in the day was the modding but GT has caught up since especially with the newest Forza.

[@MagnusArnason]

I’m pretty sure the people that like FM more are people that play dominantly on XBox and the people that like GT more are people that play dominantly PS. I hope this game is good enough to make Polyphony Digital feel like they finally have a competitor and step up their game, but I’m pretty sure they won’t because I for one am not buying an xbox just for Forza and I don’t really see this being a competitor

[@topsplitgg]

I do hope that Polyphony can step it up with their future GT7 updates!

[@acurisur]

Not entirely accurate as I own both consoles. My predominant platform is PC. As for Forza being a competitor, oh you better believe it. Forza is open to a much bigger audience than GT7 as it's available on Xbox, PC, mobile devices and some models of Samsung tv. GT7 is only available to people with a PS4 or PS5. So you can pretty much guarantee that Polyphony Digital see it as a rival.

[@jamesthompson6557]

You don't buy an Xbox JUST for Forza, you buy one for Forza, Halo, Doom, Wolfenstein, Fallout , Elder Scolls, Prey, Dishonored, Fable, Outer Worlds, State Of Decay, Ages of Empires, Flight Simulator, Stalker, COD, Spyro, Crash, Perfect Dark, Starfield, Avowed, Hellblade etc, Game Pass and the other miriad of games and features missing on the Playstation platform this gen. Just like you don't just buy a Playstation for Ghost of Tsushima. I am sure Playstation has some other great exclusives too (just can't think of them off hand).

[@acurisur]

@@jamesthompson6557 Grand Turismo 7, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Horizon Forbidden West, Racket and Clank: Rift Apart, Returnal, Final Fantasy 16, Silent Hill 2 Remake, GoW Ragnarök. I own both consoles so I've played most of the games you named on the Xbox side. Starfield has taken up a lot of my time over the last month.

[@jandoor2068]

@@acurisur I was aware of all of the games you mentioned, however I don't consider any of them to be "must plays" except for Silent Hill 2 Remake which I will definitely be getting day one and hope it is as good as the recent Resident Evil remakes. To be honest I don't think much of Sony first party games these days and pretty much avoid them - Ghost of Tsushima was good though.

[@overheatedeskim054]

No no no the color's are perfectly correct it's GT7's color that's been boosted so it mesmerizes the Pony's brain's. No Muted Color's and lit with RTAO

[@KvVortex]

5:15 the background sounds like its playing every key in the alphabet at once 💀💀

[@linoy2555]

You forgot one important detail, GT7 has a VR mode which alone makes it the best on the market.

[@Michael_Afton40]

For the few people that own a VR headset?

[@karl343]

I own a PSVR2 headset, the novelty wears off after a while. It's amazing initially, but then it just becomes a pain setting everything up. Trying to find the sweet spot gets old fast, it's really uncomfortable after a period of time. Then you've the motion sickness issue. It'll be at least another ten years before the technology is ready for the masses. When VR is akin to putting on a pair of sunglasses, it'll be worth purchasing, until then, save your money.

[@Crook3d_GT]

​@karl343 I also own a psvr2 and I couldn't disagree more, the setup is literally one plug lol and the immersion is amazing. I also haven't had any motion sickness on gt7 even 3-4 hour sessions. I haven't raced on flat screen since.

[@linoy2555]

@@karl343 This is your very questionable thought, GT7 with Psvr2 is perfect, making it superior to many titles even on PC.

[@NEGV01]

​@@karl343I'm still jealous though, been seriously thinking of getting the ps5 just to use VR in gt.

[@WolfXtream]

There's just 2 things I havent seen here on the comments and I think it's not impressive that FM has better graphics then GT7 since GT7 had to think about performance on PS4 while FM it's not available on prev gen console giving a bit more freedom to turn10 push the graphics forward imo I appreciate for both games to actually try to reboot the whole series in someway

[@bryantmccreless8177]

Xbox is also a little more powerful of a system.

[@juanluisgomezregalado6434]

It has no way to put it: Gran Turismo is just better. Forza is a shit show, slow, awfull loking, boriing racing game. Even if played in PS4 PRO, GT 7 is just better.

[@howlingwolfawooo8129]

Horizon 5 graphics look a thousand times better than Forza Motorsport.

[@SparksTheory]

This Channel is going places - never ever give up my friend!

[@topsplitgg]

Appreciate the kind words, thank you!

[@03056932]

@@topsplitgghe's right you seem to have everything nailed down already. how exciting for you that in a few years this can be your main source of income. good luck.

[@highpriest90]

All that needs to be said is that GT7 in VR2 is and will always be UNMATCHED

[@michaelnight9162]

As someone who’s actually put a lot of time into gt7, all I can say is this Forza feels infinitely better. With gt I lose grip instantly with no indication that I’m pushing too hard. In Forza I can feel the loss of grip gradually and properly struggle to maintain or lose altogether. Gt feels like I’m on rails like starfox where Forza feels like I’m moving along a surface. It’s a difference that can only be felt when actually playing both games idiot fanboy. Vr does not make for a better racing game

[@STRIDER_503]

Shall we acknowledge the fact many FM2023 car models were recycled from old games even dated back to FM4, while every single 3D mesh in Gran Turismo 7 is brand new? So much for the "built from the ground up" shenanigans...

[@markweatherall7437]

What type of TV monitor is best for the xbox1 x with regards to graphics?

[@Kryptic1046]

I have both games, and I don't like either one of them, or at least, I didn't like GT7 when it released. Back then races paid like sh** and you couldn't sell cars which I found to be utterly stupid. I just didn't care for the game in general especially when compared to past entries like the goat GT4. GT7 may be better now, I wouldn't know, because I haven't bothered with it since last year. And the new Forza, I like it even less. I've played hundreds upon hundreds of hours of Forza spanning over 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 and FH5, and I was hoping we'd get something to rival FM4, and instead we got something that doesn't even rival FM7. It's buggy af, the baked in anti-aliasing sucks and makes the game look blurry, framerates randomly dip for no reason (though the new patch has improved that somewhat), and the track list is too small, among a host of other things. For perspective, FM8 currently has a 39% positive rating on Steam, which for those keeping track is only slightly ahead of the 31% positive rating *Redfall* has. Yes, the new Forza is barely rated better on Steam than Redfall. It also has an average rating of 2 stars out of 5 on the XBox app. It has earned every bit of that scorn. I played it for about 20 hours total and haven't touched it in several days. The game feels like it's in beta. Maybe in in 6 months after they fix everything it'll be worth playing. F GT7 and the new FM. I regret buying either one of them. That's my opinion.

[@darkblader06]

Dude the amount of dirty drivers with S safety ratings is insane.

[@topsplitgg]

They defo need to make S-tier more difficult to get/hold onto for sure - looks like most players are S right now!

[@senseisprotege3632]

Gran Turismo’s inability to warn you in sport mode that if you don’t use different tires on a pitstop, you will be issued multiple minute penalties, is an abhorrent failure. And I know it’s not just me because Reddit is full of people pissed off about wasting an hour of their life on a 20 lap race only to get a massive penalty because it doesn’t really tell you!? There is none of that bullshit in Forza.

[@arshaqhabib1932]

I think more forza fans went to gt after this release, just look at the forza subreddit, they themselves unanimously agree that gt 7 is a better game in almost all aspects and has more soul and effort put into it despite its flaws.

[@_dimitri_1242]

I, like many forza players have never played gt7 and will say gt7 is way worse becausethats what we do right boys!

[@trebm3]

Dang. Pirating footage from another creator and then clickbait as hell title that you never actually answer. This is a thumbs down and immediate don’t recommend channel

[@lpsmaniax9545]

VR2 PS5 realistic experience 👍 GT7

[@sollysuliman2357]

I is really not for me because the dynamics of the cars do not feel real. It almost feels like a block of ice sliding on a marble, if that makes sense.

[@yoshi-the-great]

231 Subscribers??? The quality value of this content is on par with someone with 231k Subscribers. A wonderful surprised! Keep it up dude! Subb'd for future content.

[@topsplitgg]

That’s incredibly kind of you, thank you! Plenty more Forza content on the way!

[@command3rcodybrickfilms266]

Stole super GT’s footage for the video, quality?

[@adrianchannelle8651]

Everyone screaming "GT7 does VR!!!" That novelty wears off after awhile. You find yourself using it less than when you started. It is not a deal breaker for me or many other people.

[@anthonycelona8265]

Yea, and most of them probably dont evem have it. Sony sold about 4.5 mil vr sets compared to the 41 mil consoles. Not exactly a high attachment rate for that peripheral

[@jjsavior]

Actually it ain't a novelty bud. Gt7, a three year old game, was designed with vr in mind. Playing the game sitting inside an exact replica of these cars interiors, is definitely the way to play a simulator. You got people buying multiple screens to try to replicate that very experience and it doesn't even come close.

[@markchivers5694]

Gt7 on a good wheel and pedals is the biggest leap forward console racers has ever had it literally blew my mind , Forza on my 65 inch 4k TV feels like I'm back on ,X box 360 and vr2 feels like I'm gaming in the future

[@adrianchannelle8651]

​@@jjsaviorActually you have people going BACK to multiple screens FROM VR.

[@supergdk5335]

another banger and i will always choose any GT over forza as i grew up playing and watching GT

[@topsplitgg]

I started with Gran Turismo too - got a ton of love for GT3!

[@nihilityjoey]

I think this is a great way to come at it. If you are a racing fan, and have been playing your choice of game and feel no need to switch, then don't. Enjoy your chosen game and appreciate the rest.

[@BuckFudweiser]

I started on GT1, switched to FM2 on the 360, and have not looked back. Forza Motorsport surpasses GT7 in a lot of aspects. Mainly the fun factor. I've played GT7 as well. I almost fell asleep 15-20 minutes into the game. A snore fest for sure.

[@soxthedog068]

I am loving forza but it needs some work, never played gt7 but it does look good best to compare them in a few months as new updates roll out

[@milchkaffee3914]

I like both. I play Forza on PC not on Xbox. Gt7 ist outstanding in every way. However, Forza is the graphically prettier game, as Forza intentionally prefers "beautiful and artistic" graphics over realistic graphics. Of course purists complain but hey, what the hell, it just looks a lot more aesthetically pleasing.

[@lockelaton287]

Gt7 is so boring, people keep saying you need practice but the gameplay itself can never be the same as actual driving already so there is no point to keep following it. Actually if you chance your driving instinct to follow gt7 it even affects your driving in real life, I experienced it. And in general it's less fun to keep playing like that.

[@spawnofapathy]

sounds like a paid promotion for Forza Motorsport disguised as a comparison video. The Risk vs Reward option is only available in the extremely limited and lacking “career” mode. It’s no in free play where you can actually have more races you want.

[@Colin-cy7sj]

Gt is better for physics and Forza is better for mods. Depends what you're into. I'm a GT fan for life but have always liked forza for customizations

[@levs.7325]

I don't get fanboys. I love both games, however both has pros and cons.

[@afroditta6950]

I never thought I'll see the the day where Forza will be more sim like compared to GT7. They just nailed it this time. I already have 15 hours in it. It reminds me of GT5 where you could fell the car's weight. After several hours of Forza I've booted up GT7 and it felt weird. I think I found my new favorite.

[@topsplitgg]

Great to hear you’re enjoying it so much! Do you think GT7 will up their game now Forza is out?

[@ollyjay07]

Hard to say with the state GT7 is in. Sony has enjoyed complacency for far too long without competition and now they have it

[@andreasmoller9798]

Thats not what i heard from reviews, its not more of sim than gt7 more on simular level, and remember chris said it would be as good as any of best sims on the market, witch turns out to be false, like many of he empty promises

[@adegbrs3838]

​@@andreasmoller9798these games are simcade. Definitely not Sims

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@adegbrs3838 i know both are simcades, but that dosen’t change the fact on what chris said in the forza monthly streams, i could see the marketing bs a mile a way

[@eduardovillalobos4722]

But does fm still have the saleen s7

[@zackfair6791]

I've always been a Need for Speed guy...never played Grand Turismo or Forza before. So far i like this Forza game. I will get around to buying GT7 on PS5 eventually.

[@topsplitgg]

Glad to hear you’re enjoying it!

[@zackfair6791]

@@topsplitgg I just wish it had a optional radio feature like Need for Speed with some licensed music on it. Some of these career tournaments take a while and it would be nice to have some music playing.

[@drumnbassdan]

FM is better imo, from what i have played of each so far (FM still under 15hrs.)

[@topsplitgg]

Cool! What’s been your favourite part of the game so far?

[@willierhone6244]

Nobody is buying an Xbox to play FM, just like nobody is buying a PS to play GT7. First of all, if you have been playing GT7 why would you want to do all that grinding again. This would have been a fun topic if both games came out at the same time" like we thought they were. I have every car in GT7, and 900 hours played, I don't want any new racing game" I'm good, but if you do, I am happy for you.

[@topsplitgg]

Both games require a huge time investment to get the most out of them for sure - if anyone does put the effort in to play both consistently, huge props to them!

[@willierhone6244]

@@topsplitgg: Agree, I just hope people play as much as they talk, because if they did" every game would do well. 🤣🤣

[@dezpotizmOFheaven]

Short answer without having played one of them: No.

[@drodro7491]

I’ve got a ps5 and series x. I already own gt7 and I’ll be playing forza Motorsport on gamepass

[@topsplitgg]

Would be great to hear your thoughts once you’ve played it!

[@mrenjoi147]

Been 7 days and still not a single credit to Super_GT for his footage 😬

[@RayRiv73]

I have both and prefer Forza but GT7 VR is a whole different animal tho...GT7 VR is more fun than FM

[@topsplitgg]

How often do you play GT7 in VR? Is it more or less than on pad?

[@AntiCranium]

Both do the racing genre their own way but forza has the advantage of being both on console and PC.

[@andy94172]

Sounds like he is on the pay roll

[@m3n4cE6]

what a topic, nobody cares stick around outside the window for more than 10 seconds and have their hazmat team ready to clean up their garbage

[@baffledsquirrel2122]

Forza no question! 🤣

[@topsplitgg]

What are YOUR thoughts on Forza Motorsport so far? Do you think it can rival Gran Turismo 7? 🤔

[@marcholley604]

18 months difference in release date. Only way to compare us if they were released at the same time. Forza has over a year more development.

[@J-MONEYKING23]

Not a chance in hell.

[@reonbarrett5546]

easy to play, you don't need a steering wheel Lot better than forza 7 And as a car game for the car, the guy wants easy racing game Just play its fun

[@Unicornpirate]

Assetto Corsa puts both of these franchises to shame. If you want a sim with awesome mod support to where you can get an Aventador to sound good with a Gintani exhaust while ripping it on the Touge from Best Motoring/Hot Version, the Tail of the Dragon, or Angeles Crest Highway, Assetto Corsa is your game. Forza and GT are sim-cades. Assetto is a pure sim.

[@topsplitgg]

Assetto Corsa is fantastic - looking forward to AC2 next year!

[@Eat-MyGoal]

Sounds like a paid-for advert with some minor criticisms to make it seem like a genuine review...

[@Pablo.Muslibar]

This video was the decider of me buying the game, thanks mate 💪

[@brett22bt]

Forza has always been lagging behind Gran Turismo. I put this edition somewhere between GT5 and GT6.

[@topsplitgg]

What do you think Forza could be doing better?

[@brett22bt]

@@topsplitgg, The physics in FMS7 were ridiculous, especially in open-wheel cars. I will give credit where it's due, and we have seen some improvements in physics in this recent edition of Forza. They still don't match the physics of Gran Turismo. The graphics are where Forza needs to catch up. Gran Turismo is sharper, cleaner, more detailed, has better lighting, and is overall more realistic and true to life.

[@overheatedeskim054]

Yeah when you crash in professional race car that's not been stripped to bare bone with helmet on that loud pressure pop is what you will hear in a crash if your in stripped out can then no insolation no pressure = no bassy pop.

[@gseric4721]

From what I've heard, this new Forza game isn't even better than Gran Turismo 3 😭😭😭

[@topsplitgg]

I’ll be the first to say that GT3’s Career mode hasn’t been beaten to date!

[@mikeymike8054]

Who has better crash damage?

[@NEGV01]

Has anyone noticed how quiet your car is driver cam, the cars around are literally 10x louder. Let's not even mention the state of the reused car models.

[@topsplitgg]

The sound design definitely has its ups and downs, that’s for sure. Fingers-crossed it’ll improve in future updates!

[@NEGV01]

@@topsplitgg let's hope so, tbh though, 8 years and " built from the ground up " I think the games actually really disappointing. Think they'll add so much to the game though as they've purposely made the game to add things to it much easier.

[@waitbalthy6342]

@@NEGV01spoken like someone who has watched meme shorts of forza and not actually gone hands on. The sound design is excellent, the motors sound loud, throaty and detailed with flywheel, turbo and intake noises. The physics are miles ahead of forza seven as well. The multiplayer is fantastic, clean and competitive with a good penalty system even at launch. This required a huge amount of work, having played forza 7 and Motorsport back to back. This is a generational leap for forza. I’m 20 hours in and this is anything but a “disappointment”

[@NEGV01]

@@waitbalthy6342 that's funny because I've played forza since day 1, I've also been playing motorsport since the 5th. Why do you sound like someone who works for turn 10 trying to discredit or belittle the words I say which are in my opinion spot on. Have you played it yet? What's your gamer tag let's see your hours then.

[@waitbalthy6342]

@@NEGV01 chairmonstre81. I wish turn 10 would pay me to defend the game lmao. I just enjoy racing games. I play and enjoy GT as well. Just calling it out when I see something that has genuine effort put into it

[@justinseans]

This is my first Forza game never played it but I love this game... On controller. I bought horizon 5... Got GamePass now so playing this on that.

[@nfdrummer92]

Dont care abt the visual. The driving experience like physics, ffb, tyre model must be top notch. If not it just a game for car enthusiast.

[@topsplitgg]

The physics & driving experience in FM is pretty good! Sim-cade rather than a straight sim, but very fun to play!

[@TheMeefive]

Cords forces you to drive other cars in career. I only drive Toyota/ Lexus. Gt7 for the win!

[@Chris3377710]

they are both awsome games

[@SquidJoe]

The only right answer.

[@zb7252]

GT7 doesnt have any damage.

[@topsplitgg]

Cosmetic no, performance yes!

[@keeaan6895]

When im on visuals mode i only get like 20-25 fps, not 30. And im on series s

[@topsplitgg]

Huh, that’s bizarre - hope they get that fixed!

[@ollandsharklo2844]

The cars look like they are floating in forza.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

As a player of both Forza couldnt be any further behind. Broken sounds Glitches FM5 models Bugged lighting engine Bad interiors Low res car details Crowd is basically 240px with no shadows Car part glitches Wide body doesnt show Leveling system is horrid Menus are puked out of FM3 Same low res wheels and glitches when rolling Lazy rain lacking puddles and correct reflection Its good on controller but that doesnt makw up for the rest that is an afterthought. Watching side by sides make this brutally apparent. Also, GT7 has the tactile adaptive triggers and better vibration, which i still prefer controller wise. Lets just say, ive barely gotten started on my complaints. I play it on Ultra on my PC and it looks worse than almost all racers from 2023, including the prior FH5.

[@117johnpar]

As someone who hasnt played GT since 4 and been playing Forza since 2. GT7 is very likely objectively better than the current state of the new Motorsport. Its a complete dumpsterfire over here. I wish they'd just release GT7 for PC People who either haven't played any video game in the past decade or play video games for 2 hours every weekend seem to absolutely flipping love it though so what do I know.

[@topsplitgg]

I’m more of a sim racer (iRacing, ACC etc.) than a fan of sim-cade titles, but Forza is a lot of fun to relax with on the couch with a pad!

[@pharaohdagr8712]

This dude just wants to bag on GT7. The handling on gamepad feels good on both game, so what are you talking about FM being way better. Also, cars still drifts easily in this game, even the LMP which are known to have some of the best traction and cornering. You clearly didn't play the game. You stole all of SuperGT gameplay to pass off as your own. You need to do better as a CC.

[@topsplitgg]

Got a lot of love for GT7 - been a big fan of the series for years, ever since the GT3 days! Forza has its particular style of handling for sure, but once you get into the tuning its possible to make it better. Prototypes are waaaay too slide-y though, gotta agree with you there!

[@itachi-hf3kv]

I mean gt7 had VR that alone takes the cake

[@richardhunt66]

On PC we are not getting fantastic graphics at all. In need of a few quick patches. That aside I'm really enjoying it.

[@topsplitgg]

Yeah, the optimisation on PC is not great, that's for sure. Hope they patch it better sooner rather than later!

[@scottywoodward79]

Was playing both tonight to compare, forza for me has better better graphics (apart from cars which are much better in GT7)...the scenery, tracks weather look so much more realistic. Biggest thing for me is the handling in forza, on the pad, it feels weighty and at the same time feels precise, you can really feel the tyres on the road and the weight of the car when cornering....I loved GT7 but it feels dead in comparison, too stiff and reliant on the pad features to give feedback.

[@topsplitgg]

Both games have their particular “style” of handling, but Forza feels especially good on pad!

[@xBeepz]

This game is definitely not a wheel game. A good controller player will always be faster than a good wheel player...

[@alandiegovillalobos]

Still playing Forza Horizon 5 rally expansion, but will pick it up in a couple of months.

[@topsplitgg]

Awesome! You enjoying it?

[@stefans7220]

loved earlier GT, then i got a two cars that i could actually compare between irl, fm and gt... lets just say im all in on fm now

[@topsplitgg]

Interesting! What are the two cars?

[@stefans7220]

​@@topsplitggChevy camaro and Honda S2000.

[@stefans7220]

@@arthurt502 nope

[@stefans7220]

@@arthurt502.. Edited for not sounding like a douche... You are so wrong.