Is Paige Pierce Actually Back and Ready to Challenge Kristin? | Debate Night

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[@DustinDiscGolf]

Man of the people here greeting you all in the comments. Had fun again per usual. Gary is the McBeth of Debate Night...

[@jasondunnewold4946]

Commenting every week until Uli is on the show

[@R3dL1ght5]

+nate and Jerm

[@user-ek8kr3yc9c]

I don't care who the pro is, just have them replace Brodie.

[@sotello9171]

​@@R3dL1ght5 definitely not Jerm. He's annoying.

[@sotello9171]

Replying to this comment every week until Uli is on the show

[@joelwiebe1868]

If Brodie leaves I leave Brodie makes this show interesting to watch.

[@JayDoxTull]

I love that dogs can interrupt and talk over people but Brodie may not 😂

[@peanutbutterjelly.7]

Brodie 🔥🔥

[@ClimbTimeRC]

In his son's room, he takes the stage, Gary the debater, wise and sage. Disc golf tales through the night, With passion, he argues, sharp and bright. From the nursery, his voice soars high, The Goat is Gary, He's our guuuuuuuy.

[@thumberlife]

Beautiful. Simply beautiful. ❤

[@Chaser90EK]

Like this for the soul purpose of having the man of the people read it next week.

[@llhandj1654]

Holy shit. Did none of you watch coverage? There was plenty of time Jerm talked about the cut last weekend.

[@Viral9]

I don't think that's typical. They definitely mention it now and then, but it's inconsistent at best and they don't build storylines from it. I feel like DGN hates to mention anything negative. So often they stop commentating when someone misses a putt for example. If I'm listening to coverage, it's infuriating, especially if it's a chain out. No idea if the putt was made when they just never mention it again and cut to someone else. I have to rewind (at least we can do that now) and check. So discussions about how poorly people are doing? Feels like they're allergic to that.

[@Modular70-kr8lh]

It's asking a lot for pros to stay another day for a chance of cash vs guaranteed cash. I also think it would cripple the pro tour since guaranteed cash lines would go away.

[@morticianjohn]

Dustin did way better than Gary in the final and probably should have won. Gary basically regurgitated everything Dustin said with only a point or two about Sofia's specific athletic background that was not already mentioned. Don't know how he got so many points by basically repeating the same 1:45 almost verbatim.

[@hubterk]

GARY WITHOUT A BRICK WALL?!?

[@thumberlife]

My wife had a last-minute appointment we forgot about, so I wasn't able to record from my office. 😂

[@Eaglemadhatter]

​@@thumberlife Are you related to Travolta?

[@harlanzip]

I AM MAD AT BRODIE FOR HAVING THINGS TO SAY ABOUT VARIOUS TOPICS

[@270ultimate]

Hey! It’s Gary with the eyes!

[@Acornpie1]

I’m with Gary but, I’m checking after every round to see what pro had a bad round.

[@rogernock7865]

What!!?!? No one noticed Sam said he’s 100% team Paige then 30 seconds later said I’m 100% team Kristin? Lmao!

[@Viral9]

Gotta pander for those sweet points.

[@brentbarrus9754]

He misspoke at the end is all. People understood the essence of the spiel.

[@rogernock7865]

@@brentbarrus9754 I know, just a hilarious moment to misspeak. Reminded me of a pandering politician who forgot which crowd he was speaking to and it would have been hilarious if Brodie or someone noticed so they could give him a hard time.

[@nicholaslarmour5647]

Side note: really love the commentary from everyone on this one. I'm new to disc golf and I am discovering a lot of new content creators... Brodie, how you are reacting to the comments has me a surprised and pleased. Addresses peoples internet comments very well, imo. Although you come off as a big personality, to address the comments coming at you shows so much tact. Trevor doing a great job moderating too... Maybe let's just step in when Brodie is yelling 👍 All that being said... The Mando ruling that happened was fine. The rules themselves do need to be addressed. The disc golf course should be like traffic lights. The Mando aka the big sign, should show the exact point of where you need to be left or right from. Cash wise, 3 cut lines is fine, but let's make the cash line as large as possible to grow the sport

[@CatchMeOutside361]

24:20 had me dead Trevor 😂 I thought you were falling asleep but you were actually “imagining” 😂

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Let’s go early release. The Dustin and Gary dream team are back.

[@DustinDiscGolf]

He's unstoppable. I tried so hard and still RIP.

[@thumberlife]

I'd gladly debate it up with Dustin any time! Great points, great attitude, and a great beard!

[@DustinDiscGolf]

@@thumberlife For me I think it is: Attitude: 10/10 Points: 8/10 Beard: 6.5-7/10 You're just a 10 across the board haha.

[@brentbarrus9754]

Does Sam have a minus 1 penalty or something Trev? Dude is underrated.

[@DiscItfortheBiscit]

Sam brought the least to the show tbh.

[@brentbarrus9754]

@DiscItfortheBiscit I hard disagree. Sam made solid points that the others reiterated if not directly gave him credit for. The winning formula on the show seems less about what is said and more about the speed at which you can communicate it. Example: Dustin and Gary - two abnormally fast talkers who keep coherent as they go.

[@matthewhorsman799]

As a viewer. I would only care about the cut/pay line if the disc golf network was live streaming every hole with the same quality and commentators that the broadcast currently gets. No static cam videos. We need the ability to watch everybody to have the ability to care about everybody.

[@andrewdouglas2464]

Baseball has foul poles…. Mando poles…. Tour can do that. Majority of players dont throw like Simon/ Eagle lines.. should take care of most situations

[@devonwatt2194]

Baseball foul poles are a boundary marker, not at all the same as a mando. mados are in bounds 99% of the time and tell you where you need to throw. Comparing to baseball, that would be like telling a hitter they have to hit it to the right side of second base or it doesn’t count as a hit.

[@SirKabel821]

for the mando sign, at what point is the right most portion of the tree. If the mando is not the actual sign, one could argue from the caddie book that if the disc was within the birds eye view of the tree canopy that it makes the mando.

[@benjatta]

the asterisk next to Paiges name should be almost as big as Jesse Nieminen

[@jvladcliff4083]

A mando should be very clear as to what is in and what is out. The arrow is the mando, I feel like it was missed. It was marked badly.

[@disc_golf2311]

@DustinDiscGolf what is up with those squares in the background? Finally had to ask.

[@shamanschlong]

never seen sound proofing?

[@realgoose]

Acoustic panels.

[@disc_golf2311]

@@shamanschlong no I haven't that's why I asked. That makes more sense, just looks odd cause they seem like they're crooked.

[@DustinDiscGolf]

Acoustic foam done poorly lol.

[@disc_golf2311]

@@DustinDiscGolf no worries! Didn't mean to be rude 😂 I've just always wondered! You're still the goat at debate night in my opinion!

[@Luffy-344]

When evaluating player of the year, I think of it this way. If 18 (or just choose a reasonable number) random holes across all the courses on the entire pro tour were picked to play 1 "super round" or whatever, if I had to wager an absurd amount of money on who I think would win, who would it be?

[@bsmithhammer]

When evaluating player of the year, I look at who has the most tour points. And then I move on to other more important things.

[@dillertheskiller7550]

I think the format would be better if there were only 3 guests. Hearing 4 people talk about the same topic and basically agree gets very old.

[@DiscGolfKyle]

Take a drink every time Brodie stumbles over the word standardized. I’m drunk af now.

[@disc_golf2311]

Is Sam team Paige or Kristin? 😂 he talked about Paige the whole time and then said I'm team Kristin.

[@shamanschlong]

misspoke

[@Justtubed]

CAN GARY LOSE???

[@justbrowsing5279]

Cut line same a cash line. Don't allow ties in the cut though. If there is a tie for 45th there should be a playoff. Even if it's one hole CTP in regulation or outright winner. Allowing the ties into the cut complicates the payout formula. And there's your added narrative. Show the playoff.

[@Viral9]

That's a lot of extra effort for the best of the worst to fight over $200.

[@xyni5887]

Terrible take, no one wants to watch who tied for 45th place.

[@ninjasrus333]

The players at the cut line might end up finishing hours apart though...

[@harlanzip]

How did you not pick Brodie to talk about that final topic?!

[@sebastiangomezlondono5142]

Brody is on the right track but the solution can't be standardizing mandos on split trees because not all tree splits are built the same, there can very easily be instances in which having a mando apply to only one side of a tree's fork would be engaging in the shot shaping of a hole. Imo, the answer is with the DGPT, if they want to be the ruling authority for the pro tour they should ensure that tournament directors and courses meet a certain standard that they set.

[@kero1640]

I don't really understand a player of the year argument being subjective like an MVP award. Team sports have an MVP and individual sports have a player ranking system. If you want to know who has the best year just look at the pro tour points.

[@Viral9]

You have a very good point, and yet I could see weird situations where players who made a big impact on the season also missed a bunch of events. What if someone had just as many wins as the points leader but had fewer starts? What if the points leader won zero majors, or had a bunch of wins while missing cash every other week? In short, I think it's worth recognizing the points leader in some way that is separate from player of the year, but points alone could get weird when there are other factors worth considering. It would be interesting to look back at previous years.

[@bsmithhammer]

It's not subjective. It's very simple and completely objective. Most tour points in a given season = Player of the Year. I don't know why they keep wanting to make it more complicated than that.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@bsmithhammerthey are decided by vote though.

[@bsmithhammer]

@@leastselfawarepotassium Which is dumb, imo.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@bsmithhammerdon’t disagree with you at all.

[@zachboerding1471]

I just want to see a championship Sunday with all three on the card Calvin AB and Burr

[@DrFlemingR]

Terrible take about cash line vs cut line. Makes no sense to keep people for the final round and not get paid. Bowling and golf do this the same and it makes perfect sense

[@ohNONOky]

Brodie talked himself into a circle on the OB marking standard talk

[@iheartdiscgolf]

Still no Uli. Let Brodie take a week off and get some Uli in here. I'm glad to see people like Sofia coming up but I'm pretty sure you aren't going to give up a six figure salary to live the van life. Disc manufacturer: Great performance, do you want to be on our team? We will give you free frisbees, no insurance, and maybe what you make in a month over the course of a year... oh you still need to pay for 90% of your events, gas, car and personal insurance, meals, lodging, basically everything you need in life, but you get to throw our plastic for free.

[@Zipoqs]

Brodie is right about standards need set, because without standards you can't have a set precedent, or expectations.

[@thumberlife]

100% agree. The follow up to that standard, that we were trying to convey to Brodie is that if a standard is created, someone is still ultimately responsible for ensuring the standard is communicated and enforced at each event. If that person or party doesn't do that, they are responsible for the confusion, not the rule itself.

[@Zipoqs]

@thumberlife you are very true about that. I believe a TD is responsible for said supervision/management. But also with an organization, like the PDGA they should set the standard, and either watch over or bring in a "director" if you will to audit what the TD has modified and or done, and evaluate and approve that is meets the standards. They shouldn't just make a TD responsible and then trust it is done correctly / to the right qualifications. (I am unsure how the PDGA does about it but with such varying circumstances event to event It seems they don't micromanage it)

[@thumberlife]

​@Zipoqs I think what makes that tough is the relationship between the tour and the PDGA. For Majors where the PDGA is in charge, 100% on them. Maybe this is a good place for the tour to employ a small team to ensure standards are kept.

[@rylansnider330]

Be you Brodie never change haters gunna hate and there will always be haters

[@robkitchen5344]

Portland looked fairly cushy , being a golf course , ilike to see how's she going to get though more rugged type wooded and rocky grond course. ... 1st before declaration that she is back

[@lukemara5731]

Cash line would be exciting to viewers if last cash was meaningful money (thousands of dollars not tens of dollars)

[@MagicaManMerlyn]

In the beginning I was rooting for Brodie to win, but now I enjoy him causing chaos every game and then peacing out 😂

[@dillertheskiller7550]

Brodie is the man! Wish we had other pros or former pros to make this show more interesting

[@TheNbrownbball08]

Barella is last year’s Simon Lizotte, you guys never seriously considered Simon for POY yet this year you guys can’t let go of AB…

[@jamesadams2978]

Brodie was 1000% right about the mando. Paige threw a bad shot that clearly wasn’t where she wanted to be. She missed the sign, which is the primary visual indicator..

[@alexrogers128]

I think Brodie has a better chance winning on tour than here with Trevor’s terrible decision on the spelling bee.

[@robschoenung9543]

Who let the dogs in?

[@rman713]

Thank God for the CDC. I honestly didn’t know we could get covid through a KZbin video. Seems unlikely but hey they are the experts.

[@deadstarr7]

you all are making this mando thing too hard when its simple.. side arrow points to = safe.. other side = missed mando.. it is not a difficult concept i dont understand why there is even a discussion to be had here. and on the note of a "caddy book" where do you even get one. And honestly its sad that there arent defined rules for something competative thats been around for over 30 years at a high level. borderline embarassing actually.

[@rustystrings0908]

Lack of bricks really lost all stability for this episode

[@jamesevans7537]

Get Edwin stats on the show with Uli!

[@barrynewkirk254]

Never cared about the cut line or cash line.

[@thomasbrovont4114]

Cut line should be cash line. No one wants to play on Sunday if they aren't getting paid. Give them the day off.

[@tyronewhitney7177]

Just have a big mute button for Trevor to use for Brody 😂

[@Phyco8]

Yall agree on the mando. Listen

[@marcoshuerta8661]

Why are we putting mando signs on trees with a fork in the first place, and two everyone knows if a mando sign is on a tree fork or not you must be on the left or right of that tree......! The mando is the entire tree common Sense something stupid to argue about.

[@DanTheDiscMan]

Solution for the mando controversy: DO NOT put a mando on a forked tree. And if you really have to, put the mando on the far side of the tree opposite to the mandatory direction

[@nordicdiscgolferatrumble9430]

Calling out convid19 is a big nono

[@CaliWilderness]

I'd take Val Jenkins or JK in her prime over Paige!

[@reasonmattersmost]

This was like watching bring your kid to work day. You have reasonable guys debating interesting topics. And then you have Brodie...

[@atpete07]

Is that Gary Dadario?

[@thumberlife]

Who's askin'? 😅

[@atpete07]

@@thumberlife 😂😂 wassup buddy. Last I saw you it was what 5 A3’s in the bag?😂👍

[@PeteEH]

There is not an A in Heinänen.

[@johngalt1234]

Oh Gary...

[@thomasbrovont4114]

Standard tree Mando rule. Mando starts on the outside/inside of the marked tree. Easy peasy

[@Jonskintdiscgolf]

Trevor is not a fan of Brodie! Dude gets wrecked on points not givin to him

[@thewanderinggolfer9]

How bout we just ditch the stupid mandos in the first place.

[@thomasbrovont4114]

Hats off to Trevor. Turning into a great moderator.

[@user-ek8kr3yc9c]

Haven't been able to watch a full episode in quite a while. Brodie's unchecked disrespect (interruptions and speaking over people) is pretty damn annoying. Just going to skip to the end and see who the final two are.

[@devonwatt2194]

For real… How can you be a permanent guest on a debate show and not be able to handle people disagreeing with you? As soon as someone pushes back on one of his points, they’re instantly dumb and don’t know what they’re talking about.

[@vJackaRoo]

With his belligerent attitude, grating voice and nebulous points, he dominates the rap, Jack.

[@AlanLinQD]

I’m starting to lose interest as well

[@reasonmattersmost]

But but...What would we do without Brodie mansplaining these FPO topics for us?

[@joelwiebe1868]

These are all awful takes.

[@morticianjohn]

I don't think anyone cares about the cash cut line. It was the worst part of the show, way too much time talking about something no one cares about

[@dennis3224]

Gary kinda cute no diddy

[@harlanzip]

Individual sports don’t have a “player of the year”. It’s just a ranking who is number 1.

[@bsmithhammer]

It's simple. Most tour points in a given season - Player of the Year. I don't know why they keep wanting to make it more complicated than that.

[@me36391]

LOL, PP playing good at a course she has had long history of playing well and apparently she is back? Then she drops the clcihe im feeling the best I have blah blah blah. She always plays great on the West coast, so we will see but it just another meh toruney for the FPO, didnt watch any of it.

[@doublebogeyricky]

Brodie needs a mental break.

[@noelgrove8670]

Used to hate brodie, now i like him. Everyone else is soft that they have on this show, and you can tell they dont know much about what built disc golf through the early 2000s and up to 2020 and beyond. Brodie usually makes alot of sense and common sense at that. Yes hes has outlandish takes here and there but mostly hes right on. Everyone else beside when Hunter is on got way to many participation trophies and it shows. Also they all been watching disc golf from covid get some OGs on that know history and how stuff goes i think that would make this show alot better. #teambrodie

[@tropicallybrewing]

Out with Sam, in with Uli.

[@samchester1286]

This is Sam and I approve this message.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@samchester1286I uno reverse your approval. It’s a rotating cast, no one needs to leave in order for Uli to join.

[@Luffy-344]

As a viewer, no one cares about the cash or cut lines. No one is watching 12th card on the final day.

[@Viral9]

I'd rather they talk about cut lines than watch the players play Uno during a backup.

[@mrbins2451]

I feel bad for Brodie. He has to deal with people who have never done sports at any kind of high level. The PGA Tour is standardized so why can't disc golf figure it out. Until they do it will never be taken as a serious sport. Get rid of the tournament directors and have the tour run the tournaments just like the PGA Tour.

[@kellymartin1176]

It would be nice to have a female on the panel more often. Especially tonight when Y’all talked so much about FPO.

[@mikethomas5451]

I doubt many submitted as they have had to have a European girl on a few times just to make that happen. -perhaps that girl they have used on the preview shows could come on? (Dang it I forget her name since I haven’t watched a preview show since early in the season.)

[@shamanschlong]

what difference does it make unless they're a touring pro?

[@claytonhoma441]

Brodie is the worst part of this show. My god.

[@tortato9386]

paige pierce = rhonda rousey

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Let’s not repeat that poor comparison from last week. It’s even less apt now.

[@shamanschlong]

can we not compare disc golf and mma lmaoo

[@schmoe5070]

I feel like no body actually watches fpo / wouldn’t mind cutting out those topics from the show . They just see the results or tune in to the last few holes and make their options based on that . Hard for a busy married adult to watch two divisions of disc golf on The Weeknd and most that do are going to watch the mpo.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

I watch FPO.

[@reasonmattersmost]

Thanks for telling us your feelings. Between people like you and these dudes mansplaining FPO topics for us we are in good hands.

[@Viral9]

You know what's neat? You can skip past the FPO portions of the show if you feel you don't care about it. That's a much easier solution.

[@shamanschlong]

@@reasonmattersmost what difference does it make unless they're a touring pro?

[@reasonmattersmost]

Brodie you suck the air out of the room bro. Just shut it and listen. You might learn something.

[@Universal-Jack]

Gary and Dustin with the big miss on the Mando arguement. Lol, if there is a standard rule it doesnt matter if its placed wrong or right. You go off the ruldes and where it was placed. No exceptions. The ignorance was flying all over the place there..

[@thumberlife]

I think that where the conversation got lost is that both groups want the same thing. We all agree that standardization needs to happen for stuff like this. Personally, they should create a standard marker that is used in all cases. That will accomplish what Brodie is talking about. However, it is still the responsibility of the TD or group running the event to place that marker correctly and articulate to the players that it is being used. If they don't do that, it creates confusion and varied outcomes. We were all caught up in the sauce of the argument, so this concept wasn't clearly articulated. We all want the same thing, but ultimately, someone or some entity will be responsible for the placement and enforcement of the standard created.

[@brianh553]

I think this show has run its course. Format sucks. 90 secs way too long for most questions. Topics arent interesting at all or direct repeats from tour life or grip locked. Shut her down boys.

[@Viral9]

Just stop watching it then. I hardly ever watch grip locked anymore. Different strokes for different folks.

[@mikethomas5451]

Nope, show is totally in its full trot stride.

[@NothingReallyMattersMuch]

Considering the skill level and age of everyone on this panel. Even foundation has to admit these opinions are kind of a joke. I love Brody and Trevor but what besides the internet articles the others are reading off of makes their opinion valid in ANY WAY!? Going on my 14th year of playing and honestly listening to everyone read the stats recorded by someone else and give their less than experienced, and way less than professional opinions is entertaining because of how big of a joke they are. I could just watch a recap and say EXACTLY what these "experts" concluded but as an experienced player I want true and gritty experienced nuance not chat gpt. I'd love to see the three strangers throw. Form will show me/everyone all we need to know

[@mikethomas5451]

This is an opinion show! You got the qualifications right but it’s a fan opinion show as in people stirring on bar stools talking. I think you need to stick to Charlie and Josh and their overly long worded slow explanations of everything to make themselves appear so intellectual.