Fractal Define R6 - A PC Builder's Review

[@fractaldesignsupportna545]

Just wanted to mention one thing that Paul forgot to mention about the new Define R6. That modular HDD plate that he removed can actually be shifted back into the case to be in line with the motherboard plate. Then on the backside of that HDD plate, you can still mount two 3.5" HDD's on it. So you wouldn't lose all 3.5" HDD support when shifting to the more open layout.

[@PimpTwzt]

I think you guys need to hold back release on this case until you swap out all front panels with USB type C. Don't sell it extra, that's just a slap in the face to your customers. 2nd, there is a black out version why is there not a whiteout version? Most of the complaints i'm reading is why is the front black and not white? Do white or at least a light silver. For $150 USB type C should be included. For anything over $100 and it being 2018 USB type C should be included. USB 2.0 is completely redundant when 3.0 is included. 2 USB type A 3.0 and two USB type C is all this case needs.

[@fractaldesignsupportna545]

If you want an honest answer for why the type C port doesn't come with the case. It is because 3.1 gen2, as quickly as it's caught on in the mobile world, is still very much a newcomer on the PC side of things and still very costly to include with the proper quality construction and materials we consider standard for cables and connectors on a Define series case. USB 3.1 gen2 may be ubiquitous in the near future (assuming USB 3.2 doesn't get there first), but for now, there are still very few motherboards with 3.1 gen2 headers and very few devices aside from phones that can take full advantage of it. We know many have been asking for gen2 support, but since most don't yet have a use for it we felt it best to give people a choice rather than charge everyone what would have been a significantly higher price. As for the other colors, these are just the colors that we launched with. If we hear enough from the community that they would like to see a certain color. Then we may release more colors of the Define R6 in the future. That is what happened with the Define R4 Blackout Edition, and the Blackout color has made its way into the Define R5 and the Define R6.

[@PimpTwzt]

Thank you for the quick and detailed reply. Hopefully this will help answer what many have been questioning today. One last thing I would suggest. Offer some combo package where the type c front panel and maybe the PCI E extension cable is cheaper if ordered at the same time as the case. Something to bring the cost down because all together we are talking over $200 and that is asking a lot.

[@tabletopt7505]

A) Will it be possible to buy extra drive bays (more than 6) B) Max amount 3.5" hdd's? 8,9,10 C) Will there be a package deal for case and type-c combo? Thank you.

[@rjsantiago4740]

A) yes B) I believe I saw it was 11 on another channel (another review said 10, so it's AT LEAST 10) C) That I don't know :P sorry, just didn't see an answer for your questions, so trying to help out :P

[@nukedathlonman]

The more I look at this case in the many reviews out there that hit today, the more and more impressed I am with it. Fractal really hit it out of the ball park.

[@YotaNinja]

"Down there up at the bottom" "They put a metal frame inside the tempered glass" I love this because it shows how unscripted these guys work, and I can really appreciate that.

[@kevin45ize]

looks more like low effort to me. this video looks like a casual guy with little to medium experience in pc building was filmed.

[@PatientZeroBalisong]

Shit if you like unscripted, how about untalented? that's my channel to a T.

[@brumby92]

Its great when Linus and Paul do this. Shows their experience doing this stuff.

[@prospectsinc]

Stick it. At least $200. Canadian per case. I know I can do better.

[@YotaNinja]

Anon Amous... What? Who are you talking to?

[@rrd3k3]

Are you even a Paul's Hardware regular if you don't say "Excellent!!" at least under your breath?

[@UnfocusedRacing]

The plate you removed can be moved to the back wall.

[@jimmydean8007]

Noticed that also. I think Demitri showed us how much better it looks with it installed. C'mon Paul, that manual isn't just for trouble shooting ;-) Nice that they give the reviewers different colors. I really like this case. Only thing that would make it better is if it came with Josh.

[@timothyteglovic748]

Watch Hardware Canucks review, and they did something that Paul and Jay didn't do with the hard drive "wall." Apparently you can install it in the back and be even with the motherboard tray, and retain 2x 3.5" drive mounting points. Just something to look at.

[@kent6732]

Pop a DVD-RW in that bad boy! A 5.25" bay? Love it!

[@DrPacman]

I am glad i am not the only one. I love having the option of fitting a blueray/dvd drive in the case. Also it's behind the door so it still looks sleek

[@Hirnlego999]

@@DrPacman Sadly it's becoming increasingly rare to have that option. Personally I don't want a window in any case because I want the computer ultra silent.

[@jimmyhopkins1]

Ordered this case today specifically for that reason love watching blue rays and sheet

[@interstellaraviator6437]

2021. I still use DVD.

[@tannerclark7775]

saw all the Define R6 videos up at the same time.. Watched Paul's first of course.

[@mattmaddock2664]

I watched his last, like dessert.

[@jlrockafella]

Yeah they all don't know how to use a vertical GPU mount either since all of em don't have a water block on them. They put air cooled graphics card like a noob LoL. It's not designed for that since it obviously doesn't have ventilation.

[@chickenbeek]

You only think they do not know. They just do to show off the features. Since it's a video to show off the case itself, not specifically a detailed build video he's not going to do a full loop just for that. I would do this too just for presentation, but i wouldn't actually build my own pc like that for use. Maybe use your brain more since you think you are so smart. Noob lol indeed.

[@F11994]

What are you guys saying this case is only good for water cooling?

[@issaciams]

Don't you ever stop that blade sound effect! Lmao I love it 😂

[@WayStedYou]

Always get the "omg does the knife make that sound???" comments from it too which are fun :D

[@issaciams]

WayStedYou lol yeah the first time I ever heard it on one of his videos I had to rewatch that part to make sure I was hearing things right 😂

[@TheoryHD]

issaciams wait, it’s a sound effect? 😂😂 just kidding

[@JackLe1127]

He failed to do maintain the growl a couple of times. I have no faith

[@Zkchary]

It looks like a really nice case and I wouldn't mind that sitting on my desk.

[@STR33TSofJUST1C3]

Amazingly well designed that you can fully populate the storage bays AND have a radiator in the front. The top moduvent may be a bit too far fetched, they could've gone with a simpler method. But that's a minor issue. There really isn't anything downright wrong with this case. Just a few nitpicks here and there: - the moduvent panel as aforementioned - preferred the modular wall section to have the pattern similar to the Define S so you can mount reservoirs or SSD's on it. - would've really really liked that the USB C port was native, so we didn't have to fork out extra cash for that port.

[@cmstudios11]

I bought this case on launch and im still absolutely in love with it. The R6 Def put the consumers wants first IMO for this case.

[@CreativePixels95]

I currently have the R4, and I really appreciate all the changes with the R6. I especially love that this is a case that has a tempered glass panel AND still maintains that 5,25" bay for my optical drive. Anything else is just a nice bonus, but overall looks VERY nice. That white side panel looks really good.

[@Tr7gger]

Saw HardwareCanucks video but gotta watch my boy Paul's video first :)

[@paulshardware]

I'm gonna watch Dmitry right now :-D

[@TheHoff4K]

This is called let’s see who can make the best long commercial for our product!

[@Advection357]

I watched Dmitry first cause his video was 10 min :3 But Paul is my favorite hardware guy nonetheless lol

[@lenovop9030]

gamersnexus rules man scientific approah not marketing

[@dtune30]

Yours was first by the smallest of margins. So it is my first look. Everyone posted at almost the same time. Embargo lift I assume.

[@AnthonyThaX]

Hope for the follow up... definitely interested in getting this case ASAP! The convertibility is awesome the cooling is concerning!

[@anindyayamdagni]

I started pc gaming hardware business here my lovely small town #allahabad #India and guess what it's working! This is all because of you Paul you are my inspiration

[@paulshardware]

That's awesome! I'm glad you were able to spin your PC knowledge into a business, great job!

[@testplmnb]

Can i buy curry there?

[@JeffKirkley]

Great video and great editing work! Really appreciate the comments and thorough review. Found it all very helpful and now definitely leaning on getting this case for a new build in the future. Thanks again!

[@motoryzen]

5:57. AGAIN..for the millionth time...ALL pc case manufacturers/designers..TAKE...A DAMN...NOTE...WE want the damn psu filter accessible FROM ...THE...FRONT!! like this one. :D

[@Chris-eh3du]

Great video! The hand cam was a bit shaky in some parts but I liked the....'Come with me' aspect of the video. It also showed some different angles of the garage rarely seen in formal videos.

[@Benzin0]

This case will be a huge success for Fractal Design for sure!

[@_Epictetus_]

Best case that I have seen as far as usability goes! Buying one tonight!

[@WJK2397]

yup. the usb type c should've included. $30 is a bit much.

[@ned6204]

adi firdhaus adi m. adnan or at least a mail in rebate where you swap the original IO for the one with type-c for like a

[@WJK2397]

yeah..i agree

[@Aspra]

Not many have C cords. I'd rather save money and not have a useless port on the front. At least they made it to where it can be upgraded for when C is more common.

[@WJK2397]

usb type c is the future as it will have in many applications and so much better than the old usb . i agree with Chillhoof. its not a useless port dude. we move forward not backward.

[@sLIMshadyKP]

I think $30 for the USB type C is as fair as a $40 PCIe extension cable is for niche markets

[@wihancahill277]

Good Guy Paul for linking all the other KZbinr's videos!

[@katerwhall1865]

each techtuber has there own flair. the deep channel, the pretty channel and the average knowledgeable user channel. all have there own signature and all have my subs. great video Paul.

[@bitbat9]

first time a case has impressed me in a while. Definitely gonna pick one up

[@sanoboss3935]

I have the be quiet dark base 700 and I'm now eye balling this beautiful case.....

[@animalyze7120]

The hard drive bracket that you removed does come apart so you can place the cover from it next to the MB tray and have it all look the same with the logo plate where the cages were. Love this case, I wish they'd make the front doorless kinda like Corsair does for Airflow editions on the 750d and 450d. But the door is removable so that's a plus. Great Video!

[@101m4n]

Just bought a meshify s2 for a new build and it zapped me just like yours did xD I'm still waiting for components, but so far I'm very impressed. I'm looking forward to building in it.

[@transit921]

just bought it with another glass panel for the back and the riser, case looks great, wish antec would make cases like they use to

[@happyguy5025]

I bought a R6 and it looks like a great case, having to buy another front I/O is a bit of a bad move, USB 2.0 is old and the only things I have that use those are keyboard/mouse and a bluetooth dongle which can all go onto the motherboard.

[@Hookahitter]

I love the case I think i may order one. From someone that has a gtx1060 as the biggest most expensive gpu I have every owned, I cant imagine what its like opening up a 1070ti or 1080 box, Just watching you open it was like goosebumps! I think I would cry.

[@nickmcdaniel610]

I always end up with rig envy watching your channel. LOL Current set up is an Anidees AI Crystal cube, asus h110m, i5 6400 skylake, 16gb ddr4, 240mm Cooler master aio, gigabyte 980ti. Suits my budget more than my needs. Another fantastic video. Merry Christmas Paul!

[@auburntanner951]

Great review as always, Paul! One additional thing I would like to see explored more is the "removable wall panel" put even to the back plate (like HardwareCanucks did) and see what kind of radiator/reservoir/drive support is left in that configuration.

[@ΘΑΦΑΣΤΣΟΥΡΙΕΣ]

Fractal has done it again! .. amazing case as always from Fractal..I like that even the small details are perfect ..excellent quality as always ..this is the best case for 2017-18 ..Absolutely my next case

[@testplmnb]

jorgo vidhi Bullshit. Look at the top IO mismatch.

[@jyveturkey1894]

Vertical open air gpu mounting absolutely will affect gpu temps. Massively. Gamers nexus shows roughly +20c on the gpu. Throttling temps. Vertical gpu mounts should only be used on custom loops.

[@experimental0000]

The minor issue with the define C is that you have to play with the front intake fan placement in order to feed the GPU properly because they're a few ahirs away from touching the GPU. Yes it's more compact but it seems like it'd cause some minor airflow issues compared to having more room at the front of the case to let the air circulate into and get blown over the board and hardware.

[@Doobie3010]

Another clean and elegant,Fractal case,its looks nice in white.Great review man,cheers!

[@CrimFerret]

I'm going to be building a new system (first in 5 years) and will be using the version of this with the solid sides that includes the USB-C port (they sell them from the factory that way now). I'll admit the price seemed a little high initially, but as it includes enough decent quality fans that I won't have to buy more and it seems like it will be a joy to do a build in which is a lot more than I can say for the no-name cases I've used in the past.

[@yup4368]

What screw driver are you using? What is the anti static mat you are using to put the computers motherboard on the table? Brilliant video.

[@brumby92]

One case is moving the industry forward into 2018. If I was building a PC tomorrow, THIS would be my case. In black of course.. Currently have an old Corsar 550D. I love silent PC's.

[@KRGraphicsCG]

This is a very nice looking case and I might go with the all-black casing. The fans will be replaced with 120mm Noctua fans that I had from my Obsidian 800D build... I have at least 4 of them so I will be able to use that. I might get a few more fans and populate the entire case with them.

[@feeterican]

I'm sold. This case has everything I want in a case. Many drive bays, bottom dust filter pulls from the front and a 5 and a quarter. I want the all black but I would like to see the gun metal and change my mind. But, all in all this has it all and I want.

[@rygelcumberbatch3075]

Hi Paul. I've watched more videos on the R6 than I'd care to admit and yours has probably been the most informative. Despite only getting my R5 a year ago, I think I'll have to grab the R6 in the New Year for the better radiator support. Think I'll just give the R5 to my dad for his TR build! In case you get the chance to look, I've got a few questions for you ... 1. Would a Blu-ray drive in the 5.25" bay restrict access to the fill port or prevent you from fitting a 280mm in the top? I've currently got a HWLabs 280 GTS destined to be placed in the top of my R5, once the retailer gets it back in stock. 2. Can the fan hub be easily removed (looks like a pair of screws holding it to the case?) 3. Do you think there'd be enough clearance at the bottom for a slim 140/240/280mm + fan(s) with a 280mm at the front? It looks like there should be ... my EK CE 280 fits in the front of the R5 with about 4mm clearance, though I needed a custom bracket made to orient it with the ports at the bottom. The removal of a 5.25" bay should create at least 40mm extra clearance, but I figure there may be some more room on top of that as the dual 5.25" bay in the R5 has the extra height to it for the grooves for the 5 bay HDD bracket to slot in. So I guess you'd be looking at up to 50mm clearance between the bottom of the case and the bottom of a 280mm radiator? If you get the chance to look into these, thank you so much! If not, no worries. I'm sure you're already hard at work figuring out what to do with this case, while finding time to enjoy the festive period ... -Rygel

[@drawmaster6343]

I literally just bought my EVOLV ATX Glass. Now I'm regretting my decision on choice of case, Thanks Fractal.

[@SometimesPirate]

Thanks Paul! I’ve been looking at getting a new case soon for my build to be moved into... I am hoping for a mini version of this case soon for my micro-atx system.

[@GeekSourceHD]

Great Case Paul. You've been doing great things since Newegg bro.

[@Hobosdkcheese]

Hey Paul, you might not see this but I wanted to ask you a question. Or maybe one of the fellow commenters can help me out. I've only built a couple PC's in my life so bare with me if these questions are dumb. My parents did something really awesome for me this holiday and purchased me a gtx 1070 ti, they've never purchased any computer components for me before and I'm grateful for that. But my current computer is essentially just a run of the mill R9 380 and a AMD FX 6300 processor. I'm well aware that installing a 1070 ti would essentially just be bottlenecked like crazy. I also only own a 1080p 60 Hz monitor; seems like everything is just really expensive right now. My question(s) is/are -Should I even bother installing the 1070 ti or should I wait until I have enough to afford to just build a new system - I was set on purchasing a ryzen 1600 processor but it looks like the new 8400 intel processor is around the same price and better performance gaming wise, should I just go with that? -Is the 8400 stock cooler decent? I don't plan on overclocking as I don't trust myself to really do that as I don't really understand the limits or the how to. - Do you know of a decent way to sell my old system? I'd love if I could sell it and cut the cost of a new system potentially by 75% -Should I consider reusing older parts from the previous system if I don't sell it? Which ones are typical okay to reuse? Thanks to anyone that takes the time to read this

[@TheGhostPlanet]

Just a quick question? Why didn't you hook up the 3 case fans to the 3 pin fan controller? Great video.

[@moldoveanu8]

LOVE the case color and design

[@RogueCylon]

I got so excited about the White R6, immediately ordered it when it showed up for pre-order on NewEgg, only to find it pushed a couple of days before release. Pushed all the way to March. Completely messed up my new build.

[@caspermadsen9074]

You can fit the white harddrive panel towords the rear panel in the front, so you don't see the black dampening or cables, but still have the wide open space. Just for info.

[@bgm1911]

Good review. Thanks for adding some additional info that I didn't hear from other reviews.

[@SteelSkin667]

Once you have removed that hard drive cover, you can actually put it back in the case near the motherboard tray. That would you a few more drive mounting options since it has mounting holes in the back.

[@lebarosky]

This, in black, will be my next case. I am now debating water vs. air. I am going with 8th generation overclocked, but I am not an extreme overclocker so I think Noctua is going to do it for me.

[@offsnotagain]

Tiny Tom Logan at OC3D worked out that you can use the tempered glass window on the other side of the case within a few mins . Gotta love that boy.

[@tjb_altf4]

EATX support + longer case for increased WCing support.. my prayers have been answered!

[@Madartiste1]

This was super helpful! Getting to see a build inside the case was very informative.

[@t0my20]

Love this case. Just wish the white model had a white front panel.

[@MassimoCerreto]

That's the same thing I was thinking. I'd have loved to get a complete white one. But since I don't like the black front on the otherwise white case I'll get the black one.

[@chrisreindl1649]

Great video Paul. Glad to see you did a build in it, really helps seeing how it would be. With the vertical GPU mounted, would it not be possible to mount a GPU in Slot 1 and also have a vertically mounted GPU? For instance I have 2 EVGA FTW GTX 1080's I would love to do a config with one horizontal and one vertical. Could this be done. I know you said it takes a lot of room and that it potentially blocks the rest of the PCI slots.

[@justinstephenson9360]

The case needs a white front. Clearly a great case for watercooling, love the idea of pre-drilled fill port mounting. For air cooling there are a couple of obvious mods. For vertical mount GPU need to drill some breathing holes in the tempered glass to allow GPU fans to get air. On top I would raise the solid moduvent panel by 1/2" to allowair to escape yet still keep some noise dampening and clean look. I actually prefer the vertical mount GPU - no pressure on motherboard and therefore no board droop - also much cleaner cable management

[@Finlander89]

The black front door in otherwise very white case throws me a bit off. I might got with one of these next year, just with gunmetal.

[@bryansparkes5934]

That would be a sweet build to theme after a stormtrooper.

[@monavicat7281]

good video, i also liked seeing the camera its a touch of behind the scene .

[@supaman2345]

Awesome video Paul, nice in depth review

[@bitmau5]

Just the one I've been waiting for. One more piece completed in my never ending puzzle build this/next year. One more off list to get, one more on my list to buy. Two Thumbs up.9.75/10 because of the USB C. By the time I buy this case in Q1-18, the C panel might be a buying option at checkout. Let's hope so. Perfect case me.

[@impy1980]

I know what you mean about the bend on the top panel; the side panel on my R5 suffers from the same thing at the thinnest place, it's a bit of a pain getting the panel back on as a result, need 3 hands to hold to bottom and top parts of the panel, and to left the latch.

[@jezwc]

2am... work in the morning... watching a great review of a case I don’t have the budget for 🐢

[@falconrod1]

Awesome case, but my biggest gripe is airflow... That's why the Meshify is my go to.

[@Advection357]

First time I see someone complain about Define series case not having enough airflow... Unless you're building a 3 way SLI GTX Titan rig with a Threadripper then I understand it might not be enough :P But seriously?!

[@hapkimankb]

You should have replaced that large white metal plate in the open space at the front of the case. After you removed the drive trays you can replace it at the back of the case and it looks sharp with the Fractal logo on it. Just a thought. Nice case though and great review. I'm thinking the gun metal one would be the way to go for me.

[@Djuntas]

I loved the R5. It was also the case I recommended even to my dad when he was considering a new Desktop, its a great all-rounder, without all the taggy gamer stuff some don't like - Hope this will be just as good =)

[@Mellodeath21]

Quite possibly the sexist and most functional case I've seen in a while. Clean, sharp. Reminds me of my first love. Corsair 800D. I will be adding this to my Christmas presents.

[@paratroid]

Awesome review! Been looking for a good case for my next build, think I've found the one!

[@taspangler11]

Great video and love how you get give shoutouts and links to other great KZbinrs. That earns my sub.

[@jermainespencer6549]

I might have to get one of these for my next build!

[@makkimullwadd6629]

That modular HDD plate that he removed can actually be shifted back into the case to be in line with the motherboard plate. Then on the backside of that HDD plate, you can still mount two 3.5" HDD's on it. So you wouldn't lose all 3.5" HDD support.

[@makkimullwadd6629]

To cover up all that black foam inside the case at 23:38

[@stevenkingston6977]

Hi Paul great video very informative but! and there is always a but when you removed the White internal panel why did you not refit it at the back of the case as it should be? It makes for a much neater build and you can fit 2 HDD or 2 SSD on the back of it which are completely hidden. You can also get rid of the CD drive mount completely if you want. I've bought the case and its great,the standard Black with TG glass version all the others are on back order until March. The only downside I have found is the GPU gets a little warmer than when in my old Corsair 300R as it had 2 side fans resolved by changing the fan curve. I wouldn't consider using the vertical riser as this would get the whole system to warm unless it vents efficiently ut of the back.

[@RaMpArT02]

Paul makes upgrades to his R5. FD steals them from him XD

[@calaverx11]

If you watch Jayztwocents' video on the R6 he mentions that FD seems to have been listening to all the complaints made by system builders about the R5 and S series.

[@marioStortuga]

RaMpArT 02 Well they do hang out with Fractal Josh

[@dstblj5222]

theft seems extreme made use of the ideas and critics freely state more like

[@TAG-GAMING]

Can you fit a 360 rad in the top and still have enough space for cd/dvd drive.

[@cmusic52]

I do think there is a demand for a "NAS" case for holding lots of hard drives for making your own nas box and it is good on for Fractal Design including that option in a high end water cooling case as well, it is very much a case that isn't that big but can hold ALL the watercooling you could need!!

[@DrB1900]

Nice review Paul! Isn't the front panel the same on the R5 (as far as air-flow)?

[@joneal6630]

Paull you can mount the drive cage cover in the back position. it would block the back cover mat material. would look alot better.

[@JoeJacksonJr]

Pirate Theme.. LOL

[@thathorrorshow4126]

Thats a bad ass case. I never liked the black one it look so cheap. But now looking at this color...wow. I might even consider it for my next build.

[@thatrealba]

That is a cute little knife you wield. However, it IS the best knife I have seen any tech-tuber use. SO, nice job. However, iJustine has a tactical pen for when she travels, and I nearly subbed to her just for that reason alone.

[@Mihnea729]

I love this case ! Hope to have it some day !

[@park0rdie]

Love that case!! So gonna add that to my collection

[@bgan4826]

The solid front panel is a weird design choice. With the panel in place the air can only come in from the sides so the front filter isn't necessary. If the front panel is designed to be opened up or removed for more airflow having the filter as the front facial is not aesthetic. It would be better to have ventilation slots on the front panel for airflow and the panel should not cover the 5.25" drive bay. Otherwise have a nice mesh instead of a solid piece so that the front fans can be seen for some RGB goodness.

[@Zalle335]

Got the Define S with my custom loop in it, 360 and 240 rad with a 980ti and i7 4790k, might just swap to this case since It's got the dust filters mine doesn't have (I removed the front since I needed space) and the PSU shroud! Really beautiful, would fit my black and white build!

[@MidnightBanshi]

Such an awesome case! For me....this is best for 2017 hands down!

[@Genecaster]

when will this case be available to purchase? I want the TG blackout one. Looks really nice.

[@mickjonker6694]

Hey Paul, could you do a video on a best bang for the Buck pc? Not really with a pricetag but more of which hardware would give it to you, might be fun. Cheers!

[@MrMoxes]

Paul, I know it's a Lot of Work And...Time to do but I think you should move Arctic Panther to the Define R6. Just throwing that out there. :-) Awesome Build.

[@nickrajewski7563]

Really cool that you linked other reviews in the description. I know that it doesn't seem like it is possible, but is there any way to have a 3.5" drive and the front section removed? I am looking at doing a custom loop in this, but I have one HDD. UPDATE: In the HardwareCanucks review you can move that front panel to the back and mount the 3.5" drives to that! Really cool. Easily the best case of 2017.

[@lloydchristmas4547]

It's Castle Greyskull! And it's mine! Thanks a lot for the video.

[@gmcenroe]

I like this case for my Threadripper build using the ROG Zenith Extreme which fits according to their specs. The drive tray comes out for a front fan/radiator.

[@brianhoward9217]

Thanks for a very good review. Yes, great case, about as close to perfect we may get - possibly the best in it's class currently. I just hope the next version (R7) has a REMOVABLE PSU shroud. It is REALLY ticking me off that it is not removable. If I'm paying $300+ here in Australia for a Seasonic Titanium Or AXi Corsair PSU WHY oh WHY would Fractal force me to cover it up with that damn shroud when the gorgeous glass window affords such a great view of a magnificent high end PSU. It is a modular PSU so making the cables look neat is easy! No need for a shroud - OR, make it removable! Couldn't have been rocket science difficult to make it removable, surely Fractal?!! Oh, and they need to make the top twin piece roof easier to separate. Does anyone, including the reviewer, know when the R7 is due please? If these two things are fixed I will be insisting they take my money !

[@srenfriborg3593]

Where have you bought your spinning pc stand ???? Its nice - got to have one myself 😊

[@Sqtgdog]

I would love to see a version of this case with no glass and no fans included. Drop the cost a bit for anyone not doing an aesthetic build or who is more focused on optimizing airflow.

[@redX111t]

Only if the front panel was white, this case would tick every box. Subtle looks, sturdy build quality and plenty of space for HDD's radiators, and whatever and no useless rgb lights. Maybe they will publish one with a white front panel later. If they do, this will probably be the case I will build my next system in.

[@TheSickness]

Cases as a service? 150+40+30=220$...neat case but too expensive imo. Would have been smart to be able to move that front piece to the back when opening the front to block sight to sidepanel damping mat(fractal post farther down says it can move back) and perhaps add res mounts and such. Seems a little unfinished for a 220$ case (still)

[@spencercarruth9706]

TheSickness1234 Remove the tempered glass and the add-ons and you arrive at $120, much more reasonable. Also, the add-ons are exactly that, they are optional. Don't say that this is a $220 case as that is being dishonest.

[@TheSickness]

Spencer Carruth no it’s not dishonest, with all premiums it wants to be a premium 220$ case, so people that get lured in by the full features displayed should also compare it to other 220$‘ish cases...what is dishonest about that? Kind of like at a car dealership, base price is x but the car they give you for a test drive will definitely have the premiums, but it’s just optional. Just like lootboxes, just optional... But sure strip it down, -tempered glas, -premiums, -basement, -fans, -chinese generic fan controller, -rgb(wait not an option)...what are you left with? Still probably a 80$ case, compare that to other cases in the price bracket...they will have things we just stripped off this one, just compare honestly...$ for $