Framing and Boarding a Steel Stud Wall!

[@dansarfert3585]

I dig this style of video occasionally from you. It's a pleasure to watch someone put their head down and work efficiently, professional, and thorough. Also cool to see the daughter involved more. Thanks for taking the time to share.

[@WorkMachine-u9t]

Finally a nice video without music. I miss these style of videos before society completely lost their attention span and requires audio stimulation non-stop. Thank you!

[@OldWorldHandyman]

This is how we are doing it in Romania and most of Europe, great job! And it’s so nice to see your daughter learning to be a tradeswoman or just life skills. 👌

[@AahFukIt]

Yes same here in the Nordic. Greetings from Denmark.

[@DeWittDo-ItService]

Thank you for all your videos. It seems that no matter how many I watch I always learn something new.

[@kmonnier]

Thanks for showing the metal stud process. Letting the outside corner float with just drywall is way easier and less fussy than I would have expected.

[@HerrLindstrom]

I personally love framing. Its like adult sized K'nex for me. I just finished framing a suspended ceiling and a wall on Water street and i get to board it sometime next week after plumbers and electricians have their way with it 😁

[@vancouvercarpenter]

It really does feel like a modular building system.

[@ryanodonnell1892]

Fun little video. Great to see some steel framing.

[@wisdomhasbuiltherhouse990]

Great job, you are a great teacher!

[@YT_handles_r_stupid]

I referred to an older video of yours on how to do a California patch today. Appreciate your content as it's helped me multiple times in the past. Thank you for what you do!

[@Nicoya]

The best part is watching the office workers show up the next morning being all like "where are the garbage cans? I'm sure they were around here somewhere".

[@jimprovax6846]

I love metal studs. You can build nice straight walls. I’ve worked in commercial construction. Metal studs are all we used.

[@cmmartti]

Steel studs are great for commercial spaces, especially when an office gets reconfigured every few years. Personally, I would use engineered studs every time if they weren't so expensive.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I like them too.

[@stevehill5637]

Sir, I really enjoy your channel, and your dedication to sharing your knowledge. I'm an electrician, and your content helps me appreciate the hard work that the other trades have to endure. You help us all to be more "well-rounded". Much appreciated!

[@natewarner]

Nicely done. I can only imagine how nice it muct be to be working with your kid, too. Good on her. :)

[@ChrisLascari]

Nice work, Ben and crew!

[@FeelingLikeThatNow]

I have the same Olight, and it's great isn't it? It's really cool to see the kiddo taking after pops, learning the trades, and no matter what schooling she may get into, their is always skilled labour to fall back on and honest work pays the bills.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

It’s a super good light. Overpriced but very good.

[@JediRobin]

@@vancouvercarpenter they are a great light

[@arturtalkowski4822]

Nice video . Always appreciate your work.

[@aaron74]

Neat to see drywallery in a commercial space!

[@nevermind448]

Great project

[@dombox7644]

Your videos are the best, Much better now you have incorporated someone who is learning with you. I love you guys. I've learned more than construction stuff only. 😅 Thank you. 🥰👏👏👏🙏

[@AnotherClown01]

Hey Ben its nice to see you traded up helpers. Cheers...

[@TheAxecutioner]

That's an enjoyable video, thanks dude !

[@johnw1078]

Nicely done 3:37 skip the filler strips and run the drywall all the way from behind the jamb studs across the rest of the metal studs. Cheers 🍻

[@trbjrnjnssn]

Agreed, then you connect the walls at the same time.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Go look at how it was framed. It was butting up to a half wall. I usually do leave a stud floating and run the board through.

[@SunShineCoastStoner4]

I absolutely love doing steel stud and t bar grids. Wish I could do it more often!

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I like how straight it is and how light it is.

[@abecks8093]

Nice kicks!

[@judih.8754]

I love using steel studs when i can. I use a crimper rather screws though. Nice and strong.

[@waltk9492]

Good job brother! You do nice work!

[@Tablesaw818]

Looks good Ben!

[@franciscoortiz3575]

another awesome job!

[@angelinaklineburgess5286]

Very enjoyable video

[@brokaxle]

Love the videos. Thanks for sharing! 😊

[@CasaDin30]

Nice work. I’ve done a couple of similar jobs on office spaces. I remember that the first thing that we always did was protecting everything around the job. Furniture, desks, sinks etc. The tenants usually had quite a few complaints if we did not. The second thing was not screwing into the T profiles of the ceiling. We usually were not allowed.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I’m good at not spreading dust. Just sand gently. It has about a six foot spread of dust. Anything in that range should be protected and cleaned after.

[@tegimr]

​@@vancouvercarpentertotally agree. No need to flail about when sanding. If the compound is applied well, there is very little dust.

[@1dgrdgr]

So what did you attach to?

[@CasaDin30]

@@1dgrdgr to the ceiling panels. We put steel profiles on top of them. This applied to normal walls. If the walls were fireproof then the ceiling was cut and the wall went up to the concrete slab.

[@1dgrdgr]

@CasaDin30 good info. Thanks

[@beurky]

I too struggled with collated drywall guns. The Milwaukee is super frustrating. Try the Flex collated drywall gun if you get the chance. It's fantastic.

[@brianbob7514]

I recently built a wall and your videos helped a lot , thank you. I had one problem though, the proud fastener heads on the steel studs caused the drywall to crack when I screwed it on. I know a lot of people build walks this way, what did I do wrong? I used the thinnest head screws I could find

[@agioklima]

Very nice job nice video,God bless you

[@Morbidia]

Great finish it looks like it's been there all along or thats where the wall and door are ment to be.

[@marksee7726]

Looks like you made quick work of getting that little room built 👍👍 and ready for paint. Is that small commercial type of work have a decent demand in your area to want to do more of those instead of the home reno/repair work?

[@ocamp4]

Subscribed bud!

[@ef2b]

0:33 what are all the spray bottles on the counter? Company sanction mega water battles? Cool place!

[@Tablesaw818]

Looks like it’s maybe a day care or school of some type. May be bottles of disinfectant.

[@ef2b]

@@Tablesaw818 People should send their kids pre-washed, clean, and ready to go.

[@sgwsteve1665]

I subscribed You are the man

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Thank you!

[@MiiAgg-e2x]

Pro Tip, always Over lap you track at the corners.

[@thewoodsman4157]

I need a short on how you do that tape measure trick with the knife. I mean I see what you’re doing but I don’t see how it can be accurate. Teach me Grand Master (because I’ve watched you since the 160’s and I deserve it!) 👊😁

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I’m pretty sure I did one but I will do another.

[@AbbieBrisha]

Is this you in todays wow tech compilation? Reminded me of you. Doing a corner fix

[@hvspeed6102]

Great video, wished I saw it several months ago. I added a divider wall in my workshop and used steel studs. Main reason, 10 ft walls, and no dried 2x4 available. Didn’t want to deal with shrinkage of the green lumber, not sure what else would work. On another note, I’m seeing recommendations for using adhesive (Liquid Nail) between the board and wall framing. Is this necessary? Never heard of this before. Or maybe necessary with new construction and shrinking green lumber? Thanks.

[@1984isReal]

You need to hook-up with Mike Rowe, he's all about blue collar and training. I think that you two connecting and showing the world that even young women can be involved in the trades would be a great thing. Keep up the good work. You've helped a lot of folks over the years. I was just mudding this morning with a hawk and trowel; I never would have had this new skill if it wasn't for you.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Thank you!!

[@marklundeberg7006]

I had no idea how these spaces got built and yeah it is surprising that you only build up to the floating ceiling, and anchor to it no less! Makes sense though.

[@cmmartti]

It's because the space above the ceiling is used to run utilities, and building it below allows the walls to be easily reconfigured to suit the needs of the current occupants.

[@source4painting1]

I just use my impact to do drywall screws. I know I'm not supposed to, but I do, and it works. Drywall screws guns ... just can't get them to work. But, I only drywall once a year. Primary, I just paint.

[@AVBros37]

Do you guys double up the metal studs at any of the corners?

[@MiiAgg-e2x]

Mad props on that header You got these clowns out in some of the states cut in the middle out and doing it in the weakest form ever

[@DanielSmith-uy3yg]

Great video and greetings from Williams Lake! Just wondering what knife you use for cutting the drywall and how you keep it from going dull? I use an olfa knife with standard snapoff blades and between the drywall building up on the blade and dulling the blade I only get haf a dozen scores before it just starts tearing the paper. Thanks

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I use a standard utility blade. They are a little stiffer than an olfa but they also dull. I change my blade a couple times a day.

[@rhkips]

Commercial spaces always surprise me with how they're built. I love steel framing for some applications, but sadly no one sells it where I live, so I'm stuck doing bulkheads with 2x2s. :(

[@aquariumaquarium8080]

Looks great! Didn’t understand about the trim you took off at the end where the drywall meet the ceiling, you buy the separate?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

It’s called tear away bead

[@asaturn]

do you use regular drywall screws with steel studs?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Fine thread drywall screws

[@chriscolameco6850]

I have a client who wants 4 Ceilling fans installed. Whole condo is steel studs, about 1’ above is concrete + the above persons floor. Any way to do that without drilling into the concrete? Like spanning some 4x4’s across the steel studs?

[@TLOYA1]

Looks good. Little note, try not to have drywall seams at the top of the door. Helps with not cracking in that high stress area.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I usually don’t. I either had limited board or I didn’t want to put a full piece up and cut it in place because it’s too dusty for that work space. Can’t remember which. This was filmed a year ago.

[@Monath3]

You mentioned the screws taking more effort to put in. Give the black fine thread framing screws a try for your metal to metal connections on light gauge steel studs. I think the silver ones take more effort because they are a #8 and the blacks are #7 but for whatever reason the blacks just zip right in. There's definitely a lack of metal stud content on KZbin so thanks for putting out this video.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Those are good too. But seriously, it was the studs. They sucked. Sharp edges too. Didn’t cut myself though even with no gloves.

[@johnwilbanks3885]

Darn Ben, I wanted to see what type of corner bead you used for the 45 degree corner (no backing).

[@vancouvercarpenter]

No coat

[@ef2b]

Was that paper tape on the off angle? Couldn't quite see other than it looked dead straight.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Straight flex I think.

[@drewcama2488]

What was the gyp rok spacer for? Why were the metal studs not flush?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Hard to explain. It’s because the studs were separated by a layer of drywall at the bottom. If you go back to right before the spacer part you might be able to figure out why.

[@stargateproductions]

I always prime my own drywall work but I do understand that that's not always possible.

[@dolfinwriter5389]

At the top left of the door trim there was a gap. Did you just caulk into that gap? I ask because after I had a new front entry door installed in my old house, I had about a 5/8" gap at the top of the trim just like that. The new door and jamb were installed plumb, but the old wall was NOT plumb. I left it like that for a while and I found that spiders and other critters thought that was a great place to make their home. So I eventually filled the gap from the bottom up with a variety of wedges and shims, and then I caulked over the entire thing to seal and smooth it. It looked a little jinky, but I didn't know what else to do with it.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I caulked it. It was only about 1/4”. Still big but reasonable 5/8 is huge. Try a second application. The first one always shrinks a lot.

[@dolfinwriter5389]

@@vancouvercarpenter It's a moot point to me now because we sold that house 4 years ago and moved from San Diego to my small Kansas hometown. I've just always wondered what a pro would have done.

[@ccadama]

@@dolfinwriter5389 I had a house with the same problem on my entry door. The builder hid the problem with lots of caulk. I only found the problem when I wanted to change out the paint grade trim around the door with stain grade trim. Had to fill a half inch gap on the indoor hinge side with a shim (that was easy). What was hard was cutting a tapered shim that started at half a inch (at the hinge side) and tapered to nothing (to the latch side) over 36 inches at the top of the doorway. A good friend of mine cut some shims for me on his table saw so that I could glue and pin nail the shims.

[@raimo8882]

We dont use screws on metal framing. If necessary, you just use a special puncher which punches a hole through both pieces simultaneously, thus securing the post to the track. Using screws doesnt allow the drywall to sit flush on the framing, hence creating a new problem.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I’ve used those. I would rather deal with the screws bumping out the framing. The crimpers do not form a solid connection. They can easily be pulled apart by hand.

[@raimo8882]

@vancouvercarpenter In Europe, fastening posts to tracks is actually not mandatory at all. Big manfacturers like Gyproc Saint Gobain and Knauf doesnt require fastening. It is the drywall itself that holds it all toghether. The idea is that should the top track sag up or down, the posts can move freely and not crack the drywall. Posts are required to be 15mm shorter for that reason.

[@niceguy191]

@@raimo8882 There's a special track with slots that the screw can ride in whenever butting up to something that will likely move (roof under snow load for example). Unless the floor heaves in this case, it's not needed

[@nellof1244]

I have the same auto feeder for my corded Hilti screw gun. But it stopped working and started putting screws in crooked. It is way too hard to push. And only works when you push straight in. I remove the auto feeder and use it as a traditional gun. I have since purchased the Makita cordless screw gun. Which I wouldn't mind picking up a self feeder for that. As I still have thousands of Hilti screws on autofeed sticks

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks it’s too hard to use.

[@jfl-mw8rp]

If you want to stay friends with the trim carpenter, we always use 2x4s to rough the doors.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I find the 1x3 in the stud to be adequate.

[@jfl-mw8rp]

It should be, but their aim sucks.lol 😂

[@anthonywilson1754]

Could you have simply cut a bit of a larger hole in the flooring than the screw for the framing when you pined it to the floor? That would give the floor some movement?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Imagine removing the wall some day and having no flooring under it. Filling a few holes in the laminate is easier than replacing the boards.

[@anthonywilson1754]

@@vancouvercarpenter If the floor boards separate because of the framing screwed down then that just creates the problem you highlighted. Which situation is better?

[@1dgrdgr]

I'm hear to learn from all the comment experts with zero videos showing their work.

[@coolbugfacts1234]

I've been doing drywall for 3 million years!!!!!

[@anthonywilson1754]

I"ve not yet done steel stud framing.

[@lyonanddebanderson4418]

Even though it is not structural, screwing into a suspended ceiling I can't get my head around that. There is absolutely nothing there other than a suspended ceiling that can move. Can you explain that better, I could never trust that.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

It’s pretty solid. It’s more than adequate for what was built. The amount of work it takes to pull apart the T bar ceiling and rebuild it is massive. And it’s not as easy as you would think to tie the wall into the structural ceiling above. It’s always full of cables, hvac and plumbing. Unless the wall will be taking some heavy lateral loads somehow it’s just not worth doing it any other way than what was shown here.

[@Tommygunnbbq]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Now I’m curious to learn more about steel framing.

[@lesnewsom6000]

So,instant closet? I would think the lack of a sprinkler head would be an issue.

[@myvaluableaccount]

caulking unprimed drywall?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Not ideal at all but it still works. Barely.

[@lestalkmorebasss]

MS, USA they don’t sell tear away bead…… only regular corner bead…. It’s irritating. So many opportunities for tear away bead and we have access to none 😅

[@vancouvercarpenter]

That’s disappointing.

[@Russianmafia10]

I love your work but I'm surprised you caulk with Alex plus, I've heard that stuff will crack like crazy. I think dynaflex is a really good one that has flex but is still paintable

[@vancouvercarpenter]

It doesn’t crack if your install is good. If the trim is securely fastened and there is not serious structural movement it will never crack. I use it exclusively for all interior trim. I only use dynaflex or similar products for exterior work. Alex is fine for almost everything.

[@AlainStar]

🙏👏👍💪

[@wildeman8637]

🐣

[@chocol8milkman750]

I can't believe how grown up your daughter is now. You're far too young to have a little work buddy. My son will be mine in another 15 years!

[@dombox7644]

👍👏👏👏👏👏💪❤️🙏✨

[@GnomeGuitar]

drywall screws dont go through the wafers lol

[@WayneMiller-zx4cv]

Wow metal studs is a little over kill IMO

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Not really. They are so easy to work with once you get used to them. No sawdust either.

[@guybowers9094]

Great little project. You definitely have no way of denying that she is your daughter. Chip off the old block

[@MiiAgg-e2x]

Uuugh, 3,4,5..... duuuh

[@jdorffer]

And the internet on the wall just got worse

[@hellyabrother27]

My house is built with steel studs. Do not recommend. Hanging cabinets was a pain since they’re 24 inches on center. Not great for hanging stuff on in general.

[@rickduque5799]

That must be frustrating for sure ! I'm a builder, when I'm framing with steel studs I always ask owner what they plan on putting on those walls and will reinforce with wood if required.

[@Adanacon]

Totally agree…

[@vancouvercarpenter]

True. The light gauge studs have very poor holding power for things like cabinets. One extra quarter turn and they blow out. The heavy gauge is a pain as well.

[@nailbanger2]

We generally put a 6" wide strip of half inch plywood behind top and bottom of cabinets. Mud it in.

[@spence3085]

I will say that it much easier to find the studs just need a magnet

[@justinandout]

I hate steel studs - they're flimsy and unreliable

[@1mandrywallarmytv144]

not sure why you dont pull corner bead off. Just a better way to do it. Looks like a wood framer trying to do metal studs. Damn that was painful to watch. Thank GOD I'm not your boss!

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Leaving comments like this is probably not the best way to try and convince people to watch your videos instead of mine. You’ll catch more bees with honey.

[@1984isReal]

@@vancouvercarpenter I wouldn't want him to my boss either. He knows it all.

[@1dgrdgr]

You going to put out some new content or nah?

[@CHunt-cz1ek]

Douché!!

[@rob8823]

He just put it on?? why on earth would he pull it off? 🤔 Also, bad bosses are great, they encourage all kinds of good people to go start their own thing.

[@mikev.1034]

You might want to check your helper’s background there’s probably a reason why he doesn’t want to be on camera!! 🫤

[@vancouvercarpenter]

No. Not at all. Just doesn’t want to be on KZbin

[@justinandout]

ofc there should be racist comment!