Fran Lebowitz on Post-Pandemic Life | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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[@cgsather3309]

She’s a national treasure. I first watched her in 1979 and was so impressed that I modeled my life after her: always be critical and don’t fall for everything you read or hear, you’re responsible to develop and use your own judgement, and trust your inner contrarian voice.

[@JohnJohnson-mo4bn]

Being a Contrarian is hackneyed & dull. In other words, to disagree (to be contrary) merely for the sake of disagreeing is childish & disingenuous. She's Unoriginal..Hating living anywhere but New York City is Woody Allen's schtick. On occasion she can be clever, but even at her wittiest she's no Woody Allen or Dorothy Parker, let alone Oscar Wilde & Mark Twain. If this is your notion of what a National Treasure's personality is, I feel for you. Honestly, for over 40 Years, you have chosen to model your entire life on One human, & this is that human? What a pathetic cliched existence you must live, a truly pitiful Non-Identity

[@elinstar6034]

She is certainly a treasure, and a credit to your New York City

[@ethanbelo5873]

She thinks that COVID is travels through air even tho it travels through people bodily fluids….

[@vapidcity]

Love her but she's very lefty, I wouldn't call her contrarian at all, she's just frank and has a wit like a whip

[@cgsather3309]

@@vapidcity true, being a lefty nowadays means going with the program and fitting in. This kind of leftism, before it became mainstream, was more of a fringe phenomenon around 1978 when she became known, and then she seemed a contrarian. The times caught up with her, but at least she kept her wit and sarcasm.

[@susanfontaine5214]

Fran is truly a genius! Her Netflix show is wonderful!

[@Omni0404]

She has such an established personality.

[@nadiamccall4311]

this is such a Gatsby thing to say. But true

[@psh1147]

Bill is so right here. Fran is going to define the 2020s. She is Legend!! And would love to see more of her on this show. The amalgamation of Bill M and Fran L's points of views is worth preserving for decades to come!

[@nly4607]

Idk anyone under 30 that doesnt recognize her for a grifting phony with a rehearsed persona

[@carmenfernandez5234]

The are so funny and acerbic together. You can tell that they really appreciate each other's wit. Last night's show reminded me of when a friend and I saw Bill and Richard Lewis co-headlining their own comedy concert at the old Sun Theater in Anaheim (2000?), next to Angels Stadium. They were so on point that our faces hurt from so much laughing.

[@TylerShacklefordDurden]

I liked The Nanny too, but you may be over selling

[@nly4607]

@@carmenfernandez5234 Good point Carmen I agree this did feel incredibly dated like lazy 90s comedy

[@carmenfernandez5234]

@@nly4607 I think you meant to respond to Kristina Jones, not me.

[@lindsaymarks3481]

Thank god for Fran 👏👏

[@bdon77]

Don't ever change Bill

[@Brett_S_420]

Seems he is parroting lots of right-wing talking points now-a-days..

[@Snoy_Fly]

@@Brett_S_420 Not right-wing talking points, just what most sane people think.

[@Hirnlego999]

@@Snoy_Fly Ah yes, he was too hard on Bush. In other words Bill is starting to forget those years just like many "left-leaning" Americans. United States of Amnesia.

[@Snoy_Fly]

@@Hirnlego999 🙄

[@Hirnlego999]

@@Snoy_Fly Maher also holds multiple views on old people. He has said can't some of them just die already so we can move on, now they are to be listened to. Like years ago when he said we should have medicare for all, but once Sanders got close to power he looked worried and said should we actually do it?

[@TheBdavis2195]

Wow, usually gotta wait until the AM. What a nice surprise lol. Thanks Bill

[@stephenettinger9144]

Love her! Thank you for this 6 minutes of pure joy!

[@livhemingway2224]

Fran looks the same she doesn't age. I miss her and her fabulous mind.

[@mrsmartypants_1]

@@wakygee Honey it’s called makeup and hair dye. She’d look like someone’s 90-year-old Kansas grandma without it. Not that there’s anything wrong with that 😂

[@mrsmartypants_1]

@@wakygee Dude she’s physically 80 years old. She’s going to die of cancer in the next few years. And then you are going to act all surprised. SMH.

[@umairrizvi]

She's a f thing

[@redwolf915]

That things a girl?

[@margueritehudsell4454]

That wicked wit of her hasn't slowed down one bit. Looks great.

[@michaelhiggins2562]

Plato said: Courage is knowing what not to fear.

[@eltorocal]

Nice I remember my 7th grade Language Arts teacher pressed that we constantly use as many two-syllable words as we can... ...syllable... .....OK, I got it...

[@OzyMandias13]

He said that Fran Lebowitz will be performing in April of 2022? That reminds me of a recent longtime client who I went to to see recently. He is in his nineties and since I saw him last year, he is now rail thin and using a walker and barely able to get around. When I finished working, he said, "See you next year!". That is some positivity right there.

[@skatercoldis]

Huh? She's only 70 years old, most people just retired at that age haha.

[@maryandersondearing3053]

@@skatercoldis No longer true. Someone born in 1954 cannot collect at their max social security rate until they are 72. With the demise of pensions and the fact that many didn't feel flush enough to fully fund their 401K, we will see more people working for the full pay out rate. Combine that motive with better health and vitality into the 70's and beyond, and you can no longer assume that someone in their 70s will be doddering and parked in a lazyboy.

[@CatskillsGrrl]

She’s not that old.

[@kelleybryant5947]

@@maryandersondearing3053 Hey I like my lazy boy. I was going to work till seventy to collect my max payment. I was a caregiver for my wife. We both got covid. She died. I survived. I’m 68. So I signed up for social Security. My check is only one hundred dollars less than if I waited. Looks like I’m going to be caregiving for both my ex’s.

[@maryandersondearing3053]

@@kelleybryant5947 I'm very sorry to hear that you lost your wife to Covid. There are some good arguments for raising the SS payout to encourage earlier retirement. Opening up job slots in the upper ranks to allow folks from the post-baby boom generation is one. Any you are right, life can be meaningful doing many, many things other than working for a wage.

[@StalinBballin]

Nobody knows about post pandemic life yet. We’re not at that point in our current history.

[@JDela10]

Its the same as it was before. This is not the first pandemic in history. Its not even close to the worst. Its just the one most in your face.

[@JDela10]

@Covid Commander -- he wanted to know what post pandemic life will be like. It will be like it was before. Get your head out of your ass.

[@pamelasharkey7653]

Have been a big fan since '70's...read her books then....still quote her....love to see more of Fran. Good health to her.

[@EAB82]

Aside from being hilarious, there is something just is so comforting about her.

[@hushmoney2058]

Cigarettes ...

[@guitary]

Where has Peter Orourke been?

[@Mike-rk8px]

When I lived in Manhattan from 1989-2006, Fran used to frequent a restaurant/cafe I worked at. No, I’m not going to say the name because she likely still goes there. But there is something comforting about her for sure. I was her waiter countless times (many famous people went there) and she was always very warm and friendly. She wasn’t loud or rude like a lot of hardcore New Yorkers. The other one who was always a joy was Joan Rivers. Both her and Fran would ask you questions about yourself, ask you how you were doing, not many people do that. I once casually mentioned that it was my birthday one day, and Joan reached into her purse and handed me an unopened Godiva chocolate bar and insisted I take it.

[@Neenerella333]

@@Mike-rk8px I'm not saying you were, but I have met quite a few career waiters from big cities in the US and Europe. You can tell that they and the restaurant they work in have respect in the community. They're treated as valued people, and the their service shows. She seems like the customer who appreciates that, like I do

[@notagain779]

@@Mike-rk8px , Fran always had good manners. Sweet of Joan to give you the Godiva chocolate bar!

[@batgurrl]

Fran’s a subtle comic genius. She looks absolutely great for 70❤️

[@ilikelebronjames6426]

Looks like that woman from the incredibles

[@ilikelebronjames6426]

(Not an insult btw)

[@MothGirl007]

@@ilikelebronjames6426 She totally does!

[@ViFabulous]

@@ilikelebronjames6426 Edna! She's a great character!

[@robertodelosangeles1310]

And a smoker!

[@batgurrl]

I used to love it when both her and Salman Rushdie were on the panel. I think it was twice

[@jessicafalstein]

that was great. i remember.

[@batgurrl]

@@jessicafalstein 👍🏻

[@stuartpenman6387]

i hope you get better soon

[@hijodelaisla275]

Her is good.

[@studiolargo8320]

@@hijodelaisla275 Her sure is.

[@ased7463]

She looks like she was 70y/o in the 1970s.. bless her

[@johnburns2632]

'I felt like I was getting more exercise than the baseball players.'

[@maliksamarijones9304]

"I wanted all the tourists out of Times Square, but not dying...just don't come." 🤣

[@nietzschesmuse]

She is hilarious!

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

Yes, that helps economic recovery for New York.....

[@TheAngiepangie424]

Be careful what you wish for. Be Specific!

[@cioccolateriaveneziana]

Exactly my thoughts about Venice... And Prague last spring was divine! Sunny, green, quiet...

[@hushmoney2058]

NY Sucks

[@vileguile4]

The plastic barriers are mainly for stopping big droplets. But as she clarified, she's not an epidemiologist.

[@frederf3227]

Didn't seem to stop her talking loudly as if she has any clue what she's talking about.

[@quaroaquilinusbarfing9700]

I like intellectuals...as long as they talk about stuff they understand

[@tvdavis]

Disappointed that she was yet another person debating the restaurant servers about the effectiveness of the barriers. For f*ck’s sake, the guy waiting tables didn’t make the rules. Either eat/shop there or don’t, but stop giving the staff a hard time In restaurants & grocery stores.

[@sirisaac7959]

Either way there isnt one consistent thought or belief when it comes to "intellectas" on what is TRULY effective and what just gives an expensive false sense of security... So shes entitled. Simmer down "smart ones".. Always feeling the itch to show off your "degree". Lol. Love u

[@yolowell9564]

Exactly. The virus spreads through fine aerosol mist droplets, so the barriers act as a break. Also, I'm sick of Bill bitching about wearing a mask to his seat in a restaurant. True obviously the virus could spread while eating but it's about reduction. The more the mask is on, the less chance of spreading. Servers and staff have to mask up the whole shift. Wear your damn mask to the table, quit bitching and leave a ginormous tip for them.

[@hijodelaisla275]

I like the interaction between these two. When FL is with people who are afraid of her intelligence and wit, she's on automatic pilot. Bill brings out her personality.

[@raymondkymsuttle]

The plastic shields aren’t to protect you from air flow, it’s prevent transmission via coughing or sneezing.

[@TATTEDGAY]

Cough or sneezing droplets go into the ................... air

[@marcelogore82]

@@TATTEDGAY Yes, but they fall to the ground within 20 seconds. If there is wind it might be a little longer, but they do fall (My best friend works at the Covid unit at a local hospital)

[@PartlySunny74]

Aerosolized droplets, 20 feet.

[@jurgezaldi]

Thank you

[@marcelogore82]

@@PartlySunny74 That may be so... but Im sure very few droplets make it 20 feet. I assume the 6 foot number was figured over the MOST "dangerous" area for contagion

[@pm_-wm1wq]

Fran isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, yes. But she is a national fu*king treasure 😆 love her 👏

[@dinobotpwnz]

Beautiful way of putting it. I've also told people she's the American Stephen Fry.

[@fabianbello8128]

@@dinobotpwnz Bruh...

[@Neenerella333]

@@dinobotpwnz I can see it.

[@MclEckert]

Love Dr. Fran, wish she could give commentary every week on Bill’s show!

[@Hipmush]

I’m glad Fran took the time from designing superhero costumes to be interviewed by Bill.

[@snakearekat2634]

not edna😂

[@victorkong82]

Edna Mode was inspired by Edith Head.

[@caseycreations585]

THANK YOU lmao i was spinning last night thinking, "theres no way someone else was the inspiration" lmao

[@loopa7563]

i love how her outfit has stayed the same over the years, straight-cut jean with boots and blazer

[@FreakieFan]

I surely hope Bill didn't fly her out for just this 6 minute segment. I hope there will be more of her on this week's show posted.

[@OfTheGaps]

There was quite a bit more, but it was dominated by Bill's old man conspiracy theory talk about UFOs and the Big Bang, so they wisely cut it out of the KZbin post. Bill's a smart man, but he sounds like a total nutter sometimes when he tries to talk about science.

[@nighthawxvids]

​@@OfTheGaps right. It felt like he recycled some old questions he forgot to ask Neil Degrasse Tyson

[@guygadbois1068]

This show and the way it's broken up into segments is so antiquated, must like Bill himself. It would be far better if he just had 3 guests on the panel for an hour straight.

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing Guido?

[@yehoo911]

@@OfTheGaps Yes! I just came here to see if I was alone on this! It was a terrible interview!!! I would’ve loved to hear HER speak more... but he kept interrupting her with dumb questions... I got so frustrated I wanted to scream for him to shut the F up already... and he couldn’t even formulate a question! Like why does he have cue cards if he’s not going to fully read them! He must have been celebrating 4/20 too much because last week with Osbourne the interview was not any better.... He really needs to prep more before the interviews, but I feel he’s being lazy lately and just repeats the same shitty conversation every week. The Big Bang was just a huge WTF cringe moment for me.

[@XR650L_GUY]

I love her.

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing Tom? I love you as well lol 😂

[@floroma2820]

Always watched Fran from her beginnings. She was hilarious in the debate of the banning of cigarettes. You know, I didn’t know we were same age. For some reason , when I was younger, I always thought a successful person was much older than me.......

[@rickyv3042]

Plastic dividers do not keep air separated, they create more distance for a virus to travel from one host to another. Most viruses have a very short life-span outside of the host, so plastic dividers will do a decent job of preventing a virus from spreading. Smoke on the other hand, is air and can easily travel these distances. That's why you cannot smoke in a restaurant.

[@ge2623]

I still fart in restaurants though.

[@TheAstraeuss]

I know right when I heard her say that I smacked my forehead...

[@rickyv3042]

@@ge2623 And I hold you to the same disdain as a restaurant smoker

[@malcolmxxx86]

that's true, so why do so many people wear masks outdoors when walking?

[@ToadyWoods]

@@malcolmxxx86 I’m an American living in South Korea. There have been 1,800 total deaths. And 1,800+ Deaths were daily for how many months in the US? A long time. In this country of 52 million everyone still wears a mask outside in public if you’re crossing paths within 6 feet of people. Today, 1,800 deaths vs 600,000 in the USA? Proportional deaths for the US would be 11,700 if the US followed science like here. Obviously if you’re in your in countryside or suburbs there are plenty of instances where you don’t need a mask. Over this last year, I’ve seen (From overseas) how stubborn, individualistic and selfish Americans are.

[@hopepeace883]

The plastic barriers may not prevent air circulating, but do protect against droplet passage.

[@quintbromley2112]

Her analogy about smoke is correct. (See the new study on face shields by the Japanese research center Riken.) Even if you're wearing the shield on your face they don't protect you from small droplets, and only protect you from large droplets half the time. A plastic sheet between restaurant tables is useless.

[@CrimeCurious]

Thank you.

[@mukesh_bombay]

I'm 25 and I cannot wait to see Fran on stage

[@stellapatchouli6652]

The most honest comedian. Not sure if Comedian is the proper title for Fran. She's more than that...🌹💞

[@sbobo4437]

❤❤❤❤❤❤ Fran!

[@angangieangela5216]

She’s my spirit animal

[@gorojo1]

I love Fran

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing Johnson? I love you as well lol 😂

[@liliam3189]

I agree not everything was perfect before, so why coming back to that? Mindblowing how in a lifetime, anyone can even had a tiny chance to rewrite anything established, and people still want to come back to the same?. Wasting all this time looking to what it was instead of what could it be. The virus didn't change minds or hearts because we are so attached to what we called "normal". Seems we lack imagination and the willingness to look life in @ different way.

[@tvdavis]

I agree with you. Why all this nostalgia for rushing back to the “old ways”? Using the traditional office workplace as an example: People who were complaining about working in cubicle culture, lack of work/life balance, lack of any sense of control over their workspaces, etc. in January 2020 were suddenly struck with amnesia & couldn’t wait to get back into the office by April 2020. And not just the people with tiny apartments, or domestic violence concerns, or lack of technological resources, or child care issues, or positions that were difficult to do from home. No, they were just SO used to doing things the way they’d always been done that they started going bonkers after a couple of weeks without the confines of traditional working conditions. Personally, I’m NEVER going back to the old ways. The challenges of 2020/2022 have had a least a couple of benefits: changing the “nobody can work from home in this job” idea has been one of those benefits. I’d rather walk my dog at 10:30 a.m. than be in yet another in-person meeting that wastes an hour of the workday that could’ve been handled with an email.

[@nopeteys2424]

Bill the difference between people flying on planes during the pandemic and you having a comedy show is that a lot of people traveling by plane is necessary whether for work or to get back home. A comedy show is not an essential gathering, that’s why states shut down churches. Some of the guidelines might not have been completely consistent but some things are more important than others.

[@Hirnlego999]

The air system in planes is also not quite the same.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Bill! Thanks, Fran! 💜

[@hayleyannamathieson7261]

I adore this lady. A class act.

[@amusicment4829]

❤️she’s so friggin funny

[@CKBrooke]

A real life Edna Mode And I mean that fondly

[@bluegypsy71]

You should google the pics of legendary costume designer Edith Head, the real person Edna Mode was based on, really spot on 😃

[@MravacKid]

There's that one teensy bit of difference between planes and concerts where one's pretty much the only way to travel great distances quickly when you need to and the other is just another way of spending couple of hours having fun.

[@Interwebzzz]

agreed, change what you can, accept what you can't. Concerts can be shut down with relatively little societal disruption, air travel can't. Also, their comments about dividers and restaurants is annoying, it's physically impossible to put food in your mouth with a mask on. Some people don't seem to understand the virus isn't just free floating in the air, it's carried on respiratory droplets which are combatted by social distance, masks, dividers, etc

[@Shatter84]

@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt I don't know what "those planes" were but in Australia, most air travel last year was for critical work.

[@Neenerella333]

@@Shatter84 Fair enough, but if someone in the US had critical work that required plane travel, covid restrictions did not stop for those career workers. Those piling into planes in the last few months here, based on the sheer numbers, could not all be, as you say, like your job requirement. They are vacations.

[@Tacit_Tern]

Whats odd is "social distancing" on a plane, while the interior air of the cabin is cycled throughout.

[@SPM947]

I love her so much. I hope Bill's prediction is correct about her becoming one of the biggest stars of the 2020s.

[@venkevinj6518]

Hi Bill, the inside of a jet is pressurized, so air flows outside and comes in via filter. I have not seen broadway show theatres do that. The structure of aluminum tube "reduces", but never guarantees, contracting covid infection - it is a continuum, not an all or nothing thing.

[@dan8753]

Love You Franny!

[@AnexoRialto]

I enjoyed her Netflix series. She can talk for an hour on any topic and be interesting the whole time. BTW Bill, airplanes renew their air constantly and it's highly filtered. Your indoor show doesn't.

[@ruthie_rosario]

He wanted an outdoor venue, not indoor. The analogy was airplane vs outdoor venue.

[@williambartholmey5946]

The one exception is the subject of Bernie Sanders. She's horrible on that one.

[@avenuePad]

Yeah, her bit on the plastic barriers put me in stitches. I haven't heard that one before, by every other person you meet in public...🙄

[@pelloo3627]

@@ruthie_rosario He said "outdoors or indoors for that matter"

[@pelloo3627]

@@williambartholmey5946 I don't know what she has said about Bernie but I know she is a Elizabeth Warren fan which is understandable. Even if you don't agree, you have to respect her for it.

[@UNLebanon]

The conversation Bill decided to have with Fran Lebowitz about the Big Bang Theory, of all things, was one of the most bizarre things Bill has done on his show.

[@susannegrabowski4685]

I must have missed that part?

[@apartytomyself]

Exactly, I thought the same. Perhaps that's why they've edited it out.

[@astonishingpudding]

I'm gonna keep watching his show but his 1-on-1 interviews are lame this season, like the one with Osborne and now Lebowitz.

[@erikahish]

I wholly disagree 😂. Bet your bottom dollar that along with Netflix viewers and Amazon sales, existential crises have peaked this year and who better to turn to for good, old- fashioned comfort and common sense than Fran? It was a good instinct even if he came up empty.

[@ethanmeltzer9018]

Agreed. There were multiple awkward moments in this interview in my opinion. And I think a lot of it came from Fran not going into detail on MANY of the questions he asked her. She'd make a witty comment or crack a joke and then wouldn't expand any further on his question and I think he was grasping for question topics by the end.

[@gloriamitchell3518]

Hilarious Fran. I love you.

[@knelle1114]

I love Fran Lebowitz. Pretend It’s a City is a must see.

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing William

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

It’s not the air they’re trying to stop spreading, it’s the AEROSOL you’re spitting.

[@7sons484]

The brainwashing is complete with you.

[@mikeperkins5968]

She says the same thing about tourists in times square as we say about New Yorkers in Florida except we don't really care if they die

[@MeowMeow-ul4su]

300 thousand people were diagnosed with covid in India yesterday and they speak of "post pandemic".

[@MrLifter20]

That's how the privileged roll. They can't be inconvenienced by some pandemic. Let the poors die right ?

[@genox3636]

So believable,,, smh

[@robertburton8055]

Here in America it’s pretty well over so…

[@aaronying4989]

In America it’s pretty much over. LA just lifted the mask mandate. So to us yes it’s post. Lol

[@karencampbell2410]

She is so cool 😎

[@MrPierredenis]

Please give a break to restaurants, they suffered most

[@keithhunter3910]

Tell that to the performing arts centers and theaters that still aren't allowed to open.

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing Pierre Denis ?

[@johngranato2673]

Best show on TV!

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing John ?

[@williamusrex6417]

I could listen to her all day

[@anitahagerty6856]

It prevents droplets from people's mouths and noses from spreading to other tables,

[@gracepurcell7825]

I F-ing love her!!!

[@DannyMac888]

Legend!

[@erics362]

Howard Stern looks very youthful in this video.

[@maliksamarijones9304]

"There seems to be a lack of understanding of what AIR is." 🤣 I always felt the same way about indoor dining...gotta wear the mask all the way to your table, but once you get there, masks off, because you're "on base". 🙄🤷🏿‍♂️

[@nopeteys2424]

I think its more based on the scientific notion that covid is usually spread by people talking face to face for an extended period of time through spit particles. So if you’re sitting down just talking with the person you went to dinner with you two are already exposed to eachother, but if you get up and walk around the restaurant or bar you increase the likelihood that you expose other people. I understand it seems silly but it’s a compromise between completely shutting down restaurants or having our hospitals overflowing with covid patients. The way we dealt with covid in America was really stupid because we did half ass measures for a year instead of strict lockdowns for a shorter period of time.

[@JHB1984]

"air" isn't the issue, direct air flow is ... goal is to reduce the quantity of covid cells you are exposed to.

[@ChollieD]

You mean you and Fran BOTH got through this whole fucking pandemic without finding out about *_exhaled water droplets?_* God _damn..._

[@TheEyeball37]

Well, I wouldn't do indoor dining. I mean, come on. But outdoor dining is sort of the same way.

[@Homeschoolsw6]

2:32..." Please he's with people, he's eating. "

[@jomac2046]

Planes use HEPA filters, the same type that are used in hospital isolation wards, plus the air is completely changed once every 5 minutes. Of course, if you were sitting right next to an infected passenger there would still be a chance.

[@spevman]

THIS!!

[@rgii8060]

The best SMH part for me is when they tell everyone to “stay 6 feet apart during boarding” yet you are only about 2 feet from people on all sides while seated on the plane.

[@arthurunknown8972]

Not air. Airborne spittle is the reason for partitions, which transmission is substantially reduced by the barriers.

[@TogetherEvery1AchievesMore]

#TogetherEvery1AchievesMore TEAM!

[@ericirizarry4480]

Didn’t have my contacts on and thought this was Howard Stern! smh

[@jopo7996]

Woody Allen looks great!

[@childofgod2471]

I've heard people ask about planes a lot with regard to the virus, anyone who doesn't understand this just look up the air circulation/filtration in airplanes.

[@AyeCarumba221]

What’s your point here? You haven’t said anything.

[@childofgod2471]

@@AyeCarumba221 My point is that people love to comment about airplanes without knowing how the air quality control works...I've heard many people ask, why is it fine for me to go on an airplane but not go to a crowded concert. The answer has to do with how the air is circulated and filtrated in airplanes. I wasn't going to do all the work for you, I want people to be able to look things up themselves.

[@anyonelk]

ahhh... I finally understand what conversations in an old persons hippy commune are like

[@elitaracina3061]

2 of my most favourite Americans. I like their wits and special sense of humour

[@fabianavalos1386]

Oh wait. I'm thinking about Fawn Lebowitz. Nevermind 🤣

[@karencampbell2410]

And perceptive. Love it ‘Really, can I smoke’

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

Did she say one thing that was relevant?

[@sicknado]

Yes- plastic seperators don't work

[@bustermccrab4376]

Fran and Bill are Twins. Also they stunt double for one another.

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

How are you doing Adam ?

[@bustermccrab4376]

@@JenniferSmith-hx1so Great

[@JenniferSmith-hx1so]

@@bustermccrab4376 I would like to know you more don’t you mind giving me your email or number so we can text

[@ronaldelliott4373]

Great show Bill! I always stop whatever I’m doing to catch Fran. Also, the”New Rules” observation on ageism has been long overdue. Bravo! Looking forward to seeing you in Clearwater,Fl. Will bring a crowd from New Orleans with me.Here’s to a year where all of us may return to our favorite venues, to see our favorite performers, in person again! Peace.

[@akb5531]

Please say you are coming to Seattle!

[@teknosisglitch2432]

I agree, I LOVE FRAN!!!

[@toneriggz]

For some reason, the documentary she did with HBO a decade ago is not on HBO or HBO Max (last time I checked).

[@HT-jj5sx]

Man, the whole conversation comparing restaurants and concerts to an airplane makes me cringe. I don't believe that Bill doesn't know, this is pretty cringe to watch.

[@obtsfan]

Sad to say but Bill simply isn’t scientifically literate, and he’s narcissistic enough to think that he knows better than many people that know better than him. And that’s what makes him Bill. When it comes to science, he’s often wrong.

[@jordancarson]

“Post pandemic life” When did COVID-19 go away? We’re still in a pandemic!

[@ZlevelS]

There was never a pandemic. Only 1,800 flu cases in 2020? You do the math.

[@jordancarson]

@@ZlevelS That’s because more people were wearing masks. Influenza levels were down tremendously in 2020 primarily because of mask wearing.

[@JenWick007]

Yeah, still awaiting the day when these clowns allow what they deem to be “non essential” items can be bought inside actual stores again.

[@jordancarson]

@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt Whether you like it or not, this is a global economy and we all depend on one another.

[@jordancarson]

@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt That’s if people get the vaccine for achieve heard immunity.

[@georgimihalkov4781]

She's the perfect wife for Woody Allen.

[@stewartwilbanks4294]

Except she is not 14

[@middleschoolgravy]

Too old for him, but if someone says “New York Elite” they might be the first two folks that come to mind.

[@maryannlockwood7806]

😆

[@keithhunter3910]

Interesting that you say that. When we watched the show, my 20 year-old asked, "Why is Woody Allen in drag?"

[@jc2333]

You are so nice

[@anitaelghandor7295]

I adore her💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@thiggs93]

Ohhh how I loooong for the old New York!!!!

[@notagain779]

thiggs93, I know....I do too. Things like the mahogany phone booths with folding doors and tables inside that they had at the Algonquin Hotel. They were removed during the renovation. I guess I'm old fashioned. Sometimes you might still need a phone booth......

[@MJHdesproj]

But.... it’s the saliva droplets not the goddamn air itself - and yes, plastic does stop liquid droplets. I could see how some may find their way around, but it would be in fairly small proportion compared to not having - so I would say it’s certainly an improvement and would certainly prevent at least some infection...

[@milfordcivic6755]

I really like the acrylic partitions between booths at restaurants. You don't have to listen to the tables around you if they get obnoxious.

[@kristophsams5036]

And they serve a purpose because they aren't designed to block air. Who knew? Oh wait, Bill and Fran didn't. lol

[@dozog]

@ 2:55 "There seems to be a lack of understanding of what air is..... " I hate to be the one to tell you, the misunderstanding is by you. Those plastic dividers actually work very well in preventing the spread of the virus. In almost the same way face masks do. Unfortunately not as effective as facemasks.

[@RTWPimpmachine]

The lack of understanding is on your part. Face-masks have virtually no real-world empirical validity in stopping the virus spread. That should be fucking obvious considering some 80% of Americans wear face-masks and that hasn't had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus. Studies demonstrating face-mask effectiveness in purely theoretical (i.e. particle dispersal) settings use conditions like: Tapping the masks onto the face, using surgical and n95 masks etc... none of which are being done in the real world. For the record, I wear a mask. But never do I think it "protects" me from infection.

[@jeffs6090]

@@RTWPimpmachine - So, first off, masks are giving the other people the protection from you versus them protecting you from others. In that regard, they are proven highly effective, obviously if worn properly. The virus is mainly within the droplets ejected while you speak or sneeze, etc, and the mask will greatly decrease the amount spewn from your mouth and the distance it spews. So, if you were to have the virus without being symptomatic and therefore you don't know you have it (which is really the very common situation we've been in with this virus), you will greatly decrease the spread by wearing a mask. Is it 100%? Of course not, but not a whole lot of things are and we still do them in order to help. So therefore, secondly, this is indeed the same premise of the plastic dividers. Since the virus is more in the spittle than expiratory breath, the divider will keep that from getting onto a person next to you, on the other side of the divider. Again, 100%? Probably not, but I would very much prefer to have something helping to a good degree versus nothing at all and openly being exposed to another person's possible infection. Before when people had a cold or the flu, you would commonly say "get away from me, cover your mouth!", right? That is the exact same thing as socially distance and wear your mask. And before anyone wants to spout off about me not knowing what I'm talking about, I work in a hospital and have been taking care of Covid patients everyday for the past year. If you have seen the simple diagram listing the percentages of transmission showing people with or without masks and close or farther proximity, they are very accurate. If people had heeded that science from the very beginning, we may be in a better place now than we are.

[@dozog]

@@jeffs6090 Thank you Jeff. I would only like to add to that that Dave is completely wrong that. " ... some 80% of Americans wear facemasks and that that hasn't had any meaningful impact...." Maybe (just maybe) 80% are wearing them *now* , but in 2020 wearing facemask was a political issue, you were deemed unpatriotic if you were wearing one. The facemask issue is one of the factors in the atypical American covid death rate.

[@dozog]

@@RTWPimpmachine You are wrong about "studies demonstrate face-mask effectiveness is purely theoretical" Please link to that study. I have read many of the studies and the majority of people saying "face masks are not effective" have not read the studies, or misrepresent what it actually says.

[@RTWPimpmachine]

@@dozog Sigh. Its like debating children. "The facemask issue is one of the factors in the atypical American covid death rate." No its not. The US's death rate isn't really atypical of a Western nation. On a per capita basis it isn't much different than the rest of Europe. This is despite the fact that Americans, on average, are fat as fuck, with obesity increasing the probability of death almost 9x. "Maybe (just maybe) 80% are wearing them now , but in 2020 wearing facemask was a political issue, you were deemed unpatriotic if you were wearing one." Nope. Stop talking out of your ass. This is from late June 2020. news.gallup.com/poll/315590/americans-face-mask-usage-varies-greatly-demographics.aspx "I have read many of the studies and the majority of people saying "face masks are not effective" have not read the studies, " www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 The famous "Danish Study". Which found NO STATISTICAL DIFFERENCE in infection rates between mask users and non-mask users. The study designers then shamelessly said "Well, no statistical significance but it was going in that direction". Which is something that would never even be allowed to be published. Never mind the fact that these idiots didn't even eliminate confounding variables, like the fact that someone wearing a face-mask might simply socially distance more. Quote: "The between-group difference was −0.3 percentage point (95% CI, −1.2 to 0.4 percentage point; P = 0.38) (odds ratio, 0.82 [CI, 0.54 to 1.23]; P = 0.33). Multiple imputation accounting for loss to follow-up yielded similar results. Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection." That is the only RCT study on face-masks. The other 'studies' are functionally worthless as far as making conclusions on a population level because these are aerosol studies that tape a surgical mask to someone's face and then say "oh look, the droplets were contained", which isn't occurring in the real world. In case you are too stupid to understand what all of this means: Yes, PERFECT use of face masks LIKELY helps prevent covid-19 transmission. But that isn't going on ANYWHERE on the planet. Condoms also "work" to control STD's, but a "condom mandate" in your local high school isn't going to prevent STD transmissions.

[@1960DML]

Fran is the best!!

[@bellanica4176]

I LOVE FRAN!!!!!!

[@nly4607]

How old are you? I am 30 and found her incredibly phony and rehearsed. Was the bar lower for boomers?

[@jroush1780]

Me too! 🤗❤️

[@firstandforever8294]

Bill, please invite Robert Sapolsky on your show.

[@lohancindy5442]

Couple sworn I was clicking for Howard stern. I have to read more thoroughly

[@sunshine3914]

*could

[@direwolf6234]

i lost rack of how many times she said.. 'like you know' ... is that being articulate for a 'legend'...??

[@karenthomas4707]

Hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love her!

[@atms04]

Most people will get tired of staying home for work at some point

[@estrellalapute83]

@Covid Commander must be nice some of us can’t work from home 🙄 covid idiots really just stay in your house this summer because us idiots will be out enjoying the sun.

[@bpal7006]

Get sick of working from home? Lol..you underestimate these people. They will hold onto that "right" like grim death. And I hope they do stay home. There's less traffic that way. 🙂

[@atms04]

When I went back one week on one week off, the at home week was torture compared to being back

[@letitbe553]

Fran is to great for this generation

[@murrayknox3321]

What a complete waste of time that was!?!

[@johnIZaUWL]

She’s STILL a trip 💜🤘😆😘😘

[@nancyz5841]

Isn't funny that people say...'tax the rich' until they have money.

[@architeuthis3476]

Yeah, so I get why a lot of people don't understand how public health works, but please don't give people who don't understand the science a platform like this. That's what fox news does.