Francis Fukuyama: Russia now 'resembles Nazi Germany' | DW News

Thirty years ago, the writer and political scientist Francis Fukuyama predicted that the success of liberal democracies indicated a move toward the pinnacle of civilization. In an interview with DW, he discusses what that means in terms of Russia and its war against Ukraine, and what the current state of the world says about where humanity is headed.
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[@dixsusu]

“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.” - Leo Tolstoy

[@drlegendre]

Wow, just like religion etc al.

[@jetv1471]

My marching band director used to say two wrongs don’t make a right

[@sqweege6432]

I agree with 2 wrongs don’t make it right. But if you gonna have a democracy, you vote, and the most votes win. Right or wrong. These days it’s the other way around. The few wins. And that’s totally wrong.

[@1247.cccccc]

@@jetv1471 Three rights make a left.

[@1247.cccccc]

@@sqweege6432 Where are you thinking about? Do you live in a direct democracy?

[@tonyking1756]

“The desire to defend your motherland ... really exists there [in Ukraine]; they intend to fight to the last. The situation is not normal when a coalition of 42 countries has gathered against us, while our resources, both military-political and military-technical, are after all limited. The situation will frankly get worse for us." -- retired Russian colonel Mikhail Khodarenok on Rossiya-1's TV show "60 Minutes"

[@chriswindleydigitalsalesexpert]

Great quote Tony.

[@grayelmore3140]

In criminal governments the people keep their eyes closed because they are3 weak and just want to live along. Yes but it is still their homeland.

[@valbastiancontraio2795]

so worse that they are gaining new lands ,,,,

[@thomasherrin6798]

@@valbastiancontraio2795 At no cost!?!

[@michaeldy3157]

@@valbastiancontraio2795 By wiping out cities through cauldron wasteland techniques. What kind of person supports a dictator? A damn fool like you. Have some respect for yourself and try to overthrow that monster for russias sake.

[@bayoumeme7743]

Putin thinks of himself as an emperor, comparing himself to Peter the Great. What an egomaniac

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

And you know that how? Because that's what you have been told by somebody on TV?

[@qijia4769]

Not really if you compare him with President D. Trump.

[@zollen123]

Putin is a poor student of history, he is a deluded old fool.

[@jayjayn007]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 Russian Bot alert

[@nerdyali4154]

@@qijia4769 Really! Funny thing is that if you strip the last 6 years down to nuts and bolts, Trump has done everything by the constitutional book while the Democrats trample over the constitution and ignore their duties to the people under the constitution using "threat to our democracy" as their excuse.

[@nanucit]

Putin: you're not welcome to Russia Fukuyama: what take you so long? Was I too subtle? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

Putin commands armies. Fukuyama cannot control his mind.

[@martiedoherty5765]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔

[@BeaverZer0]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 at least you're admitting that Putin is the war criminal in charge. Good on ya mate.

[@kulman4295]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 Putin can not control his megalomania, thousands have died, millions will suffer, the blood is on his hands and his supporters like you are

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

@@BeaverZer0 The war criminal is the one who loses the war. My bet is on Zelensky, although the US is making a chopper available to him to flee

[@Ryan-ff2db]

The progress of history has never been linear. There is no truer statement.

[@RobBCactive]

The notion of inevitable progress is also false. You might notice people are trying to tear down the liberal foundations which allowed mass democracies and the technological enlightenment based on fact rather than prejudices. If they succeed western liberal democracy will appear a short interruption to the normal state.

[@crawdadad]

If Putin isn’t squealing then we aren’t doing enough.

[@hadinapokalix7329]

ahhh so you stand with the satanist globalists,,,,,

[@BernieHollandMusic]

Most of the squealing comes from the likes of you !

[@MusehanaH]

Instead, you are squealing like school boys

[@crawdadad]

Trolls getting worked up!

[@Citadin]

European economies are getting wrecked, Russia is weathering the fallout very well, they will take a third of Ukraine and call it a day.

[@d.marques4700]

Thanks for bringing in Mr Francis Fukuyama to this important issue!...

[@coreyham3753]

Agreed ... excellent interview discussion.

[@bobloblaw10001]

What special expertise does Mr Fukuyama have on this topic?

[@vinm300]

Macron : "We must not humiliate Russia" I wonder when macron will start speaking for Ukraine. France military support = $0.16 billion Poland = $1.6 billion ten times more than France

[@RainerMichelle]

stop it, Macron has sent 12 !! more Cesar howitzers this week, and the production site in France is working day and night shifts

[@glenncordova4027]

When Putin destroyed Chechnya, Putin wasn't humiliated. When Putin invaded and annexed northern Georgia, Putin wasn't humiliated. When Russia went into Syria and targeted civilians, Putin wasn't humiliated. In 2014, when Putin invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea and occupied the east, Putin wasn't humiliated. When Russia took down a civilian passenger jet over Ukraine, Putin wasn't humiliated. Putin is once again invading Ukraine and committing genocide. Putin isn't humiliated. Now is the time Putin was humiliated!

[@celinyin1494]

@@glenncordova4027 blah blah

[@waynegazard5038]

@@glenncordova4027 Ukraine's certainly made up for it really humiliated him .mind you pootins like caricature out of Monty python losing both arm and calling it a flesh wound.

[@Jay-py6ln]

true and sad that Macron even thinks humiliating russia is bad, Russia is humiliating itself by starting an unprovoked terrorist act upon a sovereign state and getting stuck there for almost 5 months

[@Sindrijo]

I really like that Francis doesn't hesitate to say that he doesn't know, when he doesn't actually know. This is very important, we observe too many 'experts' on TV giving their 'expert opinion' on something that isn't really in their expertise, they're too afraid of being perceived as 'non-experts'.

[@sukhmaidickoff]

I couldn´t agree more 👍👍👍👍

[@Z_Victory_Z]

When you've been proven wrong time and again, it's easy to acquire a certain level of humility. Fukuyama's current flashes of humility are born out of incredible hubris that gave (and continues to give) him great pain over the last 20 years.

@@Z_Victory_Z Alas, being wrong again and again doesn't seem to be giving most pundits any humility.

[@Make_Ukraine_Russia_Again]

I would be interested to find out how he reconciles his belief system with the fact that the CIA's main purpose is to undermine democratic processes abroad.

[@winstonyu1776]

From the book he wrote, he clearly don't know what is he talking about. He may say he doesn't know something and know something. Believe him when he said he doesn't know, but please don't trust him about something he claimed to know, he doesn't have good track record. But I agree with you about TV experts, they have been paid because they can lie. At least I think Francis is really ignorance rather than lying.

[@dorisshanks7295]

I just watched a video from Ukraine with an interview of a Russian POW who claims he was part of a military regiment stationed on an island north of Japan. Of 500 men, most were shipped by plane over a period of several days to an area near the Ukaranian border. Within just a few days he was in Ukraine and was captured in a short time there. Obviously they are quite desperate for troops if they are stripping their men from the Pacific coast.

[@Maennlichkeitsbeauftragter]

That’s not a problem at all if you don’t have territorial disputes in every direction. Oh wait…

[@doofygilmore8718]

Это пленный переодетый украинец .Украина вас разводит идиотов .

[@noone-ug8eg]

Yeah right, when Russia wins you are going to call that 'surrender' just like when Ukraine loses regions you call it tactical retreat. Lol

[@republica843]

Doris, I doubt we really know the extent of how Russia is really hurting militarily. I think it's much worse than what we are told.

[@Pifagorass]

Nobody cares about China's takeovers of far east and Siberian lands of the current Russian Federation - the land lease will expire for a long after the entrance of RasPutler is in mousuloeum of "peter just tasty period."

[@ProtonCannon]

You know, if it takes someone almost 6 months time and the loss of around 25-60 THOUSAND soldiers to just to START a war then I'd say they are not exactly doing too well. If nothing else they are certainly not in a big hurry to win.

[@Jimmy4video]

Well they were, but it wasn't very successful

[@mohazabubakr7324]

It's not over yet

[@urrywest]

The war started eight years ago...

[@knyghtryder3599]

@@mohazabubakr7324 yup more Russian humiliation to come !!

[@tazragames6770]

Most people today, expect instant gratification and Putin has made use of that effectively. The entire line of western leaders got suckered with the 3 day story and made rash decisions. Anyone of sound mind and wisdom would have thought otherwise. It took Russia 13 mths to save Syria from western sponsored terrorists covering less territory. In comparison simple common sense will indicate, it will take more time to de-militarize ukraine while achieving "other" intangible goals.

[@j9670]

We must continue to aggressively confront Russia or a cold winter will be the least of our problems! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 🇩🇪🇺🇦🇩🇪

[@Youbetternowatchthis]

Exactly. Just how Germany had to be confronted when our ancestors lost their minds

[@Blanka1100]

I agree but on the other hand it's Germany who has been blind for Putin's crimes for way too long and it's both Germany and France who did everything they could to avoid Ukraine's Nato membership

[@johnnysgamingclub2126]

And how does it go so far? 🤣🤣🤣

[@SK-xn1pv]

LOL. Russia did not launch the attacks on Ukraine. Russia did not weaponize & release strains of coronavirus, polio, H1N1, HIV/AIDS, ebola, yellow fever, monkeypox,and more using nano drones, GM'd mosquitoes/flies, cloud tech in order to reduce populations, especially in areas the elites want to exploit for resources. Russia hasn't used new nuclear devices with enriched uranium and ordinance w/ depleted uranium to decimate populations in the Middle East and Asia. Russia is not an enemy of other countries, just an obstacle for the world's banking elite.

[@babblo1389]

Ze learning from historic Germany

[@winfordnettles3292]

Those who deny the lessons of history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Russia is in for a rude awakening.

[@markbujdos584]

Russia has actually acknowledged and learned from history. The US and NATOs violations of international law in Kosovo and Serbia by bombing and killing innocent civilians, lying and breaking agreements with Russia on NATO expansion, the hypocrisy of declaring the Alt Right a danger domestically for the US ,but not the Alt Right in Ukraine, where the US supported a president who ran a university who invited David Duke and where John McCain met with a notorious Ukrainian anti-Semite which the US had no problems with. etc. etc. etc.

[@BernieHollandMusic]

And so are you

[@MusehanaH]

OK

[@Citadin]

Russia is winning on all fronts, militarily, economically and politically. Fukuyama is an out of touch American neoliberal Boomer who still thinks we are in 1999.

[@iwankazlow2268]

@@Citadin Yeah, he's a neoliberal priest, not wanting to accept reality.

[@Rnankn]

I was thinking this too. Russia and other elements of the current historical moment have an uncanny parallel to the context of pre WW-2.

[@user-qp8js5ps5c]

We in Russia noticed this too. It's winter war now, soon we are going to be attacked by new axis and have to liberate whole Europe from fascists again in Berlin. New Berlin is not in Europe, but in America.

[@jc.1191]

I agree. Along with the autocratic regimes that have popped up everywhere. Such a similar setup.

[@HOHLfmly]

Let us hop that china and Russia don’t attack us at the same time this time

[@user-qp8js5ps5c]

@@HOHLfmly This time? Personally I don't remember China and Russia attacked someone together previous time. Actually, it's USA want to attack chinese Taiwan.

[@annetteallensavariou9197]

Ukrainian should not give up territory if they do we all suffer all over the world think smart Ukrainian has the keys to many doors that Russia needs to close because of selfishness keep fighting Ukrainian God be with you . You are not the invader may we all endure

[@JackRowsey]

Exactly…. Appeasement doesn’t work, it actually rewards the monster. If anything RussIa should have to give up land when they lose. Crimea back to Ukraine, Kalingrad to Poland, Siberia becomes independent.

[@louisecorchevolle9241]

and you will fight to the last Ukrainian and reinforce US militari industrial complex and test your arms and bio labs in Ukraine

[@chris24j48]

Don’t have to write about it when you can watch Russia disintegrate

[@operationzenith6030]

hahahaha - Russia is fine. Sanctions have failed, Ruble is strong. Its Europe that is disintegrating...🤣

[@MultiCugel]

@@operationzenith6030 Ruzzia has never been fine, your country is a joke. all your 'soldiers' steal washing machines and electric goods because you have nothing! 🤣🤣🤣

[@roibryant]

@@operationzenith6030 Stop the delusion Russian bot. EU is far from disintegrating because their economies is still fixable unlike Russian's.

[@hadinapokalix7329]

did you look at your food,gas rent prices in the USA?

[@appletree6741]

@@operationzenith6030 Russia’s collapse will be sudden and soon … a lot of people will rub their eyes when it happens

[@danielanyamele7425]

Russia is in a serious dilemma, for Putin to get out from Russia to Iran shows that the weapons from the United states are making a difference in the battle filed, secondly Putin is talking about if Ukraine can agree to peace talks of March, the pressure must be kept up on Russia.

[@tazragames6770]

You read wrong. Tiny minds abound. Hint ... peace talks after winter devastation of europe. 😎

[@SpecialMuppetOperation]

@@tazragames6770 We don't negotiate with terrorists.

[@generalkhalid1192]

@@SpecialMuppetOperation cuz you are them, biggest killer is NATO

[@aleksabenovic6046]

You westernised foolish guy. How much I pity you? Even after Ukraine lost 1/4 of it's territory and 1/3 of army personnel you still think that Russia is losing this war? It's unfortunately for Ukraine just a matter of time when will they give in to Putin's demands.

[@nromk]

I'd say we need peace with Russia and possibly the EU should get rid of Poland, Hungary, etc they have similarities to Russia especially on their social stances.

[@getgene]

Of note, and major players know this, the Dunbas contains one of the largest reserves of oil and gas. If Ukraine tapped it, Russia's leverage is gone.

[@jiselaminaya8071]

Interesting interview. dialogue is a necessary contribución to resolver issues.thanks 🕊🙏

[@1247.cccccc]

These big names are surprisingly ignorant of facts. Fukuyama ignores more than he apparently uses to arrive at a position. His comments about Trump date him to 2018 at the very best.

[@johntyson1958]

Excellent interview. Thanks 🙏

[@erikswanson224]

Yes it was. Intelligent questions, intelligent answers.

[@dbass4973]

thank you for this interview

[@taylorbolduc1763]

This interviewer needs to learn how to spit the words out

[@joesterling4299]

Oh, good God, yes. The interviewer's ineptitude is especially jarring when the guest is so eloquent.

[@jameswyre6480]

Putin has a tiger by the tail with Ukraine. Putin has proven highly inept at diplomacy which was masked by the lack of intervention in Crimea and prior Russian aggressions. Now, Putin likely prefers to keep the conflict going for the longterm as he realizes the unexpectedly potent sanctions will not end as long as he sits on his imperial conquests. Putin greatly fears facing his people in a permanently diminished economy without his war being active and providing him with the traditional Russian ‘rally round the flag’ and ‘conflict means I can suppress the people without consequences’ effects. He may well also be ill and knows that he can bask in the glory of even his limited conquests and that people will blame the massive fallout on his successor.

[@armaniwebb4467]

Yet ukraine has offered no peace deal but more weapons. Russia hasn't leveled ukraine, hasn't destroyed parliament or government housing in kyiv. So how is he not leaving door open for peace? And putin I'll? Lmao. Sure but let's ignore joe biden shaking hands with ghosts and slurring over words.

[@1247.cccccc]

Compared to what? Diplomacy doesn't exist in the west, if you actually failed to notice, and what of Minsk? Fukuyama is definitely ill; he suffers from TDS.

[@righthandstep5]

@@1247.cccccc wrong bot comrade

[@1247.cccccc]

@@righthandstep5 Thank you for sending your best. Take a shot at the question, numbnuts!

[@armaniwebb4467]

@@1247.cccccc scary times brother. If you expose people to reality you are either a bot or russian spy....one day the latter can leave you imprisoned...becareful. In ukraine you would be killed or arrested for the comment you made

[@dwanderful1]

Good interview

[@1247.cccccc]

Fukuyama is a clown. All these fools are the same; wind them up and they say the appropriate talking points. Fukuyama's ability to observe reality is pathetic.

[@Kelvin555s]

Great interview.

[@joesterling4299]

Great interviewee. Horrible interviewer.

[@BERENCEV]

Very great responses mr. Fukuyama, just spot on. Journalist should rather prepare his questions in advance, but it was great conversation overall. Thank you

[@davem20us]

Came on to say the same thing. Why go into an interview without some preparation? Great responses, weak question asking.

[@MayankSingh-qg4zv]

Fukuyama has proven right time and time again, during the peak of american war on terror fukuyama talked about the real threat to usa and western countries would be communist china and Putin's tyrannical regime. He seemed to be right on both of the front.

[@babblo1389]

F with his usual bs

[@bracketclose]

His main contribution was "the end of history theory" which he believed would be sealed with USA becoming a hegemon and thus no more new history would be written. He couldn't have been more wrong. "Communist" china does not threaten US. Dictatorship china, which has done wonders on the economic front and now military front, by undermining all sorts of environmental concerns and subjecting it's population to its whims, which can "burst" at any moment (pressure cooker theory) is a cause for concern to the waning hegemony of US based international economic and military order. Add to this this, an old superpower which has nuclear capacity, equal to USA , is now trying to regain its position by establishing itself as the energy provider and a bully to other smaller nations while selling arms to other countries, has thrown up an additional challenge for the USA and the stable system it out into place after ww2.

[@NowStopandThink]

Fukuyama is very sharp, articulate, and calm. The interviewer would do well to work on his interviewing style and eye contact with the camera. For me, it is very distracting and doesn't feel very professional at present, though he is quite well informed.

[@Hampshirehalfwit]

I agree with you that the interviewer was distracting. He looked as if he had just got out of bed and if his grasp of English was a problem then perhaps using a scripted question list might have helped. Overall the interview was interesting but it was tedious to watch. I hope the interviewer can take this comment in a positive way.

[@louisecorchevolle9241]

he inspired the neoconservatives who where criminals acting all around the world this theories made one million deaths

[@highphysics3617]

Good for you Mr Fukuyama. Well articulated Sir. Slava Ukraini..🟦🟨

[@rudiruttger]

Very interesting stuff, thank you for putting it together.

[@babblo1389]

🤣🤣🤣

[@beornthebear.8220]

Thank you, Mr. Fukuyama.

[@timtrewyn453]

No. I think Putin relies upon the long-standing NKVD/KGB/FSB institution, which is Russia's core constituency, and is potent in its control of the Russian population. It will be loyal to Putin as long as he in his role delivers money and respect to them. The core ideology is the love of money.

[@davidk7544]

DW: Very good interview and dialogue - as usual. Direct questions, surprisingly direct and I suspect accurate responses. I love the focus on content over appearance.

[@lisac3002]

Marvelous, thank you. There are logical, informed, intelligent people still out there, with us.

[@user-qp8js5ps5c]

Most of them are not with you, they are in Russia.

[@vitalijslebedevs1629]

@@user-qp8js5ps5c 1984

[@TheLolilol321]

@@user-qp8js5ps5c Hi Ivan.

[@user-qp8js5ps5c]

@@vitalijslebedevs1629 Great book to describe the west. But I think "Inhabited island" of brother Strugatskie can describe it even better. Don't want to spoil, so can't say why.

[@user-qp8js5ps5c]

@@TheLolilol321 Ivan is a male name. Hello anyway. Want to say something?

[@bluemoon7076]

It depends which network is airing the interview ……

[@semperfi-guy]

How is it that this particular video wont-work right on KZbin?

[@romankacin8365]

I’m thinking the interviewer should write down his questions next time.

[@tilak231]

Regarding institutional structure he is totally right! This guy has very precise statements!!

[@louisebean9428]

What’s in the left hand corner? Your notes?

[@trentriver]

Excellent interview and IMO Mr Fukuyama is right on.

[@sqweege6432]

Not with everything.

[@barbarcreighton6726]

on everything

[@TommyTCGT]

@@sqweege6432 Not with anything. As weak willed as the J PM. Too much listening to Brit/US Intel. Go to.. Moon of Alabama today's, and note how the Ukies are getting well and trully wallopped.

[@sqweege6432]

@@barbarcreighton6726 I’m guessing you think Biden and his administration is doing a great job as well. Lol

[@1247.cccccc]

@@barbarcreighton6726 LOL. Celebrity economics is the answer to everything.

[@tesfagebrielmihretab5513]

Fukuyama literally lived to see what the end of history looks like!

[@Fish_Ventura]

That is such a nonsense statement.

[@babblo1389]

History has not ended. And what will he say in 2050?

[@guynorth3277]

@@Fish_Ventura; You wonder what people relate to, to even think that way, so strange.

[@BeaverZer0]

@@Fish_Ventura I suppose it's hard to talk in facsimile with vodka for blood.

[@austinsmith3011]

@@babblo1389 The end of history in the context of Fukuyama only means that after humanity trying out different forms of government over thousands of years liberal democracy will prove to be its final form.

[@creative.money_eu]

I think it is a good interview!

[@devroombagchus7460]

I have seldom seen an interviewer who took so much time and talk to come to what resembles a question.

[@fandyllic1975]

Very informal, but also very informative.

[@davidjb3671]

Terribly poorly prepared interviewer. I admire Mr Fukuyama for putting up with him and managing to make it less of a fiasco.

[@psnaris]

Well, he sure was right 30 years ago, wasn't he?

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

About what?

[@titusmccarthy]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 He said it was "the end of history" after the Berlin Wall came down and the USSR fell.

[@ruyaal]

@@titusmccarthy I think you did not get the irony of the comment.

[@titusmccarthy]

@@ruyaal WHAT?!

[@ruyaal]

@@titusmccarthy ditto.

[@SA-xd2os]

the person interviewing, seems ill prepared with his questions and the direction of topics. Fukuyama is well read well spoken and spoke with clear answers.

[@ElasticbrandNet]

Was it too much work to edit out the "I'm starting I'm stopping" ?

[@moonhunter9993]

Great interview with an useful perspective. Thank you.

[@babblo1389]

Fooling of the gullible ones. But you are welcome!🤣

[@Muzakman37]

@@babblo1389 Da, da

[@SurfinScientist]

@@esehi13368 He is from the US.

[@johnarnold893]

@@babblo1389 OK Boris.

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

This guy is brilliant 👏🏼👏🏽👏🏼

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

... and seals clap

[@greatgalaxy2118]

30 years ago, his intelligence turned out to be a failure in the end of the world.

[@kylesmith8128]

@@greatgalaxy2118 I'm gonna "hazard" a guess and say you did not read the book.

[@greatgalaxy2118]

@@kylesmith8128 has got nothing to do, if I read the book. The world order is changing despite his prediction. If you have read the book seriously

[@anmolpatelfifa]

LoL he is the "end of history" guy .... The biggest political comedy written in the last few decades

[@Miata822]

This interviewer seemed utterly unprepared for this well qualified guest.

[@LA-kc7ev]

"That they haven't even started" could mean they have goals beyond Ukraine, referring also to what Putin saying "this war is against the West." Certainly if one looks at the fascist ideologues that are close to him, there would be every indication that this is so, including Ukraine being but step one of the Neo-Eurasian strategy of Dugin and others.

[@khiem1939]

With a population 1/2 that of the USA, a GNP less than the State of California, and an aging dying populace, Scientists involved in demographics gave Russia about 20 more years before it ceased to be a viable Nation, this of course was BEFORE they invaded the Ukraine!

[@gloriabort8422]

Putin’s scaremongering. Putin is placing himself and Russia’s economy so much in danger, by provoking the West. The West will always fight this aggression against a sovereign country. Trump is not pro Russia.

[@LA-kc7ev]

@@khiem1939 All true. I have heard this from Peter Zeihan. Nevertheless they still have dreams of grandeur and empire. Here is an odd quote from Putin: "I believe in passionarity (a living force specific to each people made up of biocosmic energy and inner force). Russia has not reached its peak. we are on the march, on the march of development .... We have an infinite genetic code. It is based on the mixture of blood."

[@smb123211]

It's ironic that Putin's mentor is a self-professed fascist without apology.

[@jiridrapal7512]

Russian army is still on peace time status and conscripts in barracs. If they pushed it to further level, and just deployed current conscripts back to units, they could almost double their army size without mobilisation. And they could then wage offensives in two regions instead of one. They could also use tactical nukes in western ukraine, to destroy supply of arms.

[@kelzuya]

Interviewer's questions were a bit rambling.

[@clavo3352]

Impressive interview !! I feel honored to be able to listen to Mr. Fukuyama. One can tell by his demeanor and ease of vernacular; that he is one intelligent and well read person.

[@jpappasin]

Perhaps, but unfortunately his take on Donald Trump and the effect of his re election on this war are totally off base and incorrect. Trump was extremely effective in getting the rest of nato to pay their fair share for the defense of Europe. His point about Germany and other countries not paying the required 2% was on point. Now you see Germany and other countries that weren't paying their fair share now stepping forward and doing so now. Trump is the one who warned Germany about doing gas deals with Russia vs the United States. That looks quite prescient right now doesn't it? No matter who is Elected president in the United States at the next election whether it is trump or more likely Ron Desantis the US will not stand by and allow Putin to recreate the Soviet Union.

[@clavo3352]

@@jpappasin The military investment was an important issue. Tearing up the Iran nuclear deal was equally important; but totally the wrong thing to do.

[@clavo3352]

@Азизбек Акшабаков unclear as to which of several issues are being addressed. Incomplete communication.

[@upnorth2421]

Getting on Russia travel ban is an honor. Shows you are not on the side of fascists.

[@babblo1389]

Fas cists are in 🇩🇪❤️🇺🇦

[@upnorth2421]

@@babblo1389 byebye botzky!

[@xrcassassin3544]

@@babblo1389 lmao Russia is literally the definition of facism. You're legally not allowed to say war 🤣🤣🤣🤣 really shows the freedom you people have. I'm gonna go ahead and go to McDonald's then maybe grab some Starbucks and then maybe watch Disney plus or play Xbox. How does it feel to know an entire country lost over half of its freedom in a matter of weeks. Enjoy all that grain you will be eating for the next 100 years.

[@titusmccarthy]

Now get a travel ban from Amerikkka.

[@upnorth2421]

@@titusmccarthy blah blah blah what about america blah. Tired.

[@thommyrubin1866]

Good and interesting interview. It's people like Mr Fukuyama we need as leaders.

[@philstanton231]

Thank you for an interesting and informative interview

[@artscience9981]

Apparently there is no End to the “End of History” jokes. I thought this was a good interview, the interviewer’s questions were a bit rambling, but were successful in producing interesting answers from Mr. Fukuyama. The interviewer just needs a bit more preparation.

[@tanyap8838]

Thanks

[@Technoriety]

Audio quality of the interviewer is not very good. Sounds like he didn't have a dedicated microphone, and just used the inbuilt mic on the screen. Sounds harsh. Hard to listen to.

[@samsmith2635]

1:21 He just told the internet to get better jokes... Legend.

[@bar1825]

This is the guy who claimed the end of history right. He should get some other job maybe.

[@richardarriaga6271]

@@bar1825 Literal Soviet monuments are being installed in Russian-occupied regions. History is definitely not gone.

[@davidk6264]

One of the best interviews I've listened to. Good questions great answers.

[@Anita-k]

"Hey Kevin can you great Putin at the airport?" Kevin: "You can all me anything and I'll do it, but I don't want to be on tv greeting that kīller!"

[@martincicchino1228]

He finds 'the end of history jokes' to be tired after 30 years. So do we.

[@ticnatz]

Excellent analysis as should be expected from Mr. Fukuyama.....

[@abcdedfg8340]

When good people do nothing, evil wins.

[@babblo1389]

Good people did nothing. And now we have e vil🏳️‍🌈 west

[@michaelroark2019]

I am always impressed by the depth of perspective of Professor Fukuyama. He is truly one of the best thinkers in the world today. He is also humble to admit when he doesn't know the answer about a question such as on the internal politics of Kazakhstan. No one is the fount of all wisdom but I am very impressed with the degree of the breath of his knowledge and thought. He is a pleasure to hear and world would be less without him.

[@Muzakman37]

And he says what many others know but refuse to actually say: Putin lies like a flatfish.

[@BlackWolf6420]

It annoys me to no end the style of the interviewer. He doesn’t look in the camera, the questions sound like they are being asked on the spot. Common on man!

[@paulheydarian1281]

He seems unprepared.

[@kylesmith8128]

He is coming up with his own questions and thinking. Most presenters are just talking heads regurgitating other people's questions, reading teleprompters, and taking direction from producers.

[@glenncordova4027]

He is on camera. He should address the camera. This isn't a radio show or podcast.

[@tikaanipippin]

@@glenncordova4027 He is running this on a laptop, there is no camera angle but the webcam on his machine. it is a poor way to produce a video interview, but from his point of view, it is a podcast.

[@hereigoagain5050]

I like the interviewer for the very reasons that others criticized him: it made him authentic. I prefer a disheveled intellectual who searchers for the best words to a well coiffed and polished teleprompter reader with only a superficial understanding.

[@trappedkitty5335]

Still, you should prepare your questions ahead of time and if you want to sound authentic, just write down the subjects in a diagram of logical flowchart throughput instead of full questions with an expected answer. It will save lots of time searching for words, good ideas and the incessant "umm."

[@daniel3231995]

Low for dw,guy looks like he's improvising teaching from home

[@ResidualSelfImage]

Fukuyama is spot on albeit he's simplified things to make it easier to understand. Putin realizes that Russia's specialized economy puts it at risk. Seeking more a stronger Russian Economy, Putin seeks to restore the Russian/USSR mercantile empire with Moscow controlling all the economic deals with the Satellite nations. Ex Warsaw pac nations know this would translated to a multigenerational oppression economically and politically - which is why they are more motivated wrt to helping Ukraine beat back Putin.

[@michaelangelo5580]

Right. Because Ukraine bombing the Donbas has nothing whatsoecer to do with this lol yall are tol funny. Who in their right mind would think Putin is trying to rebuild the USSR haha wow

[@Blanka1100]

@@michaelangelo5580 Donbas belongs to Ukraine so Russia should take its toys and go play inside its own borders

[@michaelangelo5580]

@@Blanka1100 hahaha yea, so why did yall approve when NATO invade other countries when they were having internal issues too? hahaha And guess what, it doesn't matter how much you want it to, Russia aint going nowhere til they want to and theres nothing no one can do, only God himself can!

[@michaelangelo5580]

@@Blanka1100 Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Lybia, Yemen, they didn't have the right to meddle in those countries because they were internal conflicts, if there were any. Thanks to NATO, millions upon millions have died. But im sure you approved of that! But Ukraine, theyre white and have blue/green eyes, so they matter more!

[@Blanka1100]

@@michaelangelo5580 And then you woke up, Sergei. Russia is cheap gas station and anything but super power or super army.

[@robturvey9156]

I don’t see what UKR has to gain by negotiations in a couple of months. The flow of western weapons will surely increase over the next few months and they should surely enable UKR to push back very much harder.

[@jiridrapal7512]

They have 50 000 dead soldiers and 200 000 wounded right now. According to CIA Russia lost 15 000 men and 40-50 000 wounded. In couple months it means ukraine would suffer another 40 to 50 000 dead and another 160 000-200 000 wounded soldiers. If it keeps going on this way, Ukrainian will to fight will break much sooner.

[@jedpeeler4199]

@@jiridrapal7512 If that happened here in the U.S., us armed citizens would fight to the last man! Every free man should be armed!

[@jiridrapal7512]

@@jedpeeler4199 it would be shot at western ukriane. Noone would go to nuclear war over ukraine.

[@juliec5309]

Your number is way off at most it's 30 000 troops in Ukraine that died.

[@jiridrapal7512]

@@juliec5309 9 brigades defending lysycansk lost 18 000 dead wounded and captured. In two weeks. Keep living in a dream.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Did Mr. Fukuyama SAY what is in the headline? I must have missed it. 🤔

[@ivansgapaccount7692]

Fukuyama is amazing like always, DW editor cant catch up his level.

[@armaniwebb4467]

Thus guys is a clown 🤡 promoting the matrix

[@CoinFrontation]

I would go even further in the last question. The war in Ukraine and the climate crisis are symptoms of the same illness. Our increasing need for energy and the unwillingness of the old power structures to move away from fossil fuels. Most of the currently existing power structures are built on oil.

[@clavo3352]

Absolutely right ! It is shameful too. We have become enslaved by ease of transportation and air conditioning.

[@CoinFrontation]

@@clavo3352 As long as humans evolve forward, we will always work towards making out lives easier. This is the main driver of evolution and innovation. But, we could generate plenty of electricity almost carbon neutral by using Nuclear energy in combination with renewable energy sources. The problem is, that especially the German public was lied to. Renewable energy is good, but it, at least for now, requires a base load. This can only be supplied by fossile fuels or nuclear.

[@bittripper3530]

So you have a solution you'd like to offer. Gas is used as the main backup for unreliables and Nuclear will take decades to build

[@CoinFrontation]

@@bittripper3530 Nuclear is already there and could be switched on within a couple of month. In some cases the reactors haven even shut down yet and could be let running.

[@RobBCactive]

Big oil lobbying has ensured more was invested in fossil fuels than renewables over decades and that it received greater subsidies. The fluctuating prices made alternatives like nuclear hard to sustain as plants begun would look uneconomic when online due to a large fall. Large oil reserves makes dictatorships with narrow economies work, as historian Stephen Kotkin explains such regimes rely on cash flow not long term investment.

[@Llkc60]

please be more prepared when you interview a great mind like him. poor man, honestly, end of history questions/jokes are old even for me who sees it once a year, not 2-3 times a day

[@briandbeaudin9166]

I don't agree. I hadn't heard that, so I think you should be more tolerant.

[@Llkc60]

@@briandbeaudin9166 what did you not hear? what do you not agree with? what does tolerance has to do with this?

[@michaeltichonuk2176]

Good story...thanks.

[@milos_mladenovic]

Not yet end of history, is it? But if this gets out of hand, it could very well be.

[@richardarriaga6271]

Nah, someone will make puppet shows in Nuclear Winter.

[@mashdown3]

The Donbas and the huge gas fields there are Putin's actual objective. It also represents Europe's real energy security. If Germany was not cowards it would be in their interest to go free it, even.

[@JohnnyAmerique]

No, his geopolitical objectives are larger than that. When the Warsaw Pact and USSR fell apart, Russia was left with numerous gaps in its natural defences. Everything Putin has done geopolitically since coming to power is about plugging those gaps. Two are on the other side of Ukraine. Others are in NATO countries, so we need to make sure the Russian military is so degraded in Ukraine that the Moscow regime can no longer project power outside its homeland.

[@mashdown3]

@@JohnnyAmerique good point, but the gas field is also huge I think.

[@aviral1000]

Or maybe *Imperial Japan* ...

[@DR-pj7sr]

A very interesting interview. 🇺🇦🇪🇺💪 Fingers crossed that American Justice can put Trump on trial for what he did on Capitol.

[@amirmagonid3386]

Trump did nothing on the capital. More leftist, communist takeover trash talk.

[@xpusostomos]

Trump didn't do anything. Clowns like you can't even say what he is supposed to have done.

[@zipperpillow]

How to diminish/interrupt the FSB?

[@gregorykruszynski5886]

Prof. Fukuyama is one of the smartest people on the planet .

[@ruyaal]

No, the solar system.

[@timtrewyn453]

Lies, for the narcissist, are for self-soothing when encountering difficulty.

[@javierfrancia1938]

Fukuyama has embraced the losing side. His next job will be as a youtuber selling manga shaped ice-cream

[@Simon-ss8pe]

Good interview, bad mic quality

[@chris24j48]

Good analysis of Russia/Putin

[@Schrodinger_meow_meow]

Cmon, you need to speak some better language to take interviews... It's kinda disappointing to watch this on DW...

[@HOHLfmly]

Sir what do you think about Russia in Egypt and the bridge he made in St Petersburg? Is Ukraine a diversion fr the base and arms sales they are doing with Egypt? It would be very easy to take Egypt

[@louistan7560]

Why would you trust someone who made a wrong prediction and yet insisted writing books about it? Those living in the same village only believe in the gossips that go around within it. Especially those who arrive to stay and remain.

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

If you can't trust Francis Fukuyama's predictions, whose can you trust? His 1992 book "The End of History" was so on point, we're living it now.

[@vexversaa239]

trust me man, you'll be surprised by the stupidity of the sheeple.

[@Blanka1100]

Trust Russia's neigbours next time. They know Russia better than most countries ever will.

[@baruasafi5880]

Gosh! We have yet to reach the end of history. Even the collapse of neoliberal policies is not but a process until there comes an evil personality in Jerusalem to rule the world then the end of history will come when justice overcomes oppression and evil is defeated by goodness. That will be when the state of Israel is dismantled by divine intervention.

[@joecool9739]

To predict the future accurately we need only look at the past Everything that is happening has already happened, only with different weapons

[@forgottenmusic1]

The history "never" ends, and I prefer Huntington.

[@MrEnajiza]

stay strong Ukraine .... 💪 🇺🇦 🇦🇺

[@BernieHollandMusic]

Ukraine is a failed state - Zelensky will soon be assassinated - and of course, there are no prizes for guessing who you are going to blame for that !

[@MrEnajiza]

@@BernieHollandMusic your clearly delusional and easily influenced by extremist conspiracy theories...I hope you get the help you need....🙏😇

[@special1740]

Mr. Fukuyama’s personal bias is getting in the way of objectively evaluating Russian history and Russian path, since his parents fled Russo-Japanese war.

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

Confucius he say: History's very interesting, but I'd rather not live where they're making it.

[@emigrator08]

Ukraine survived when they held Kiev. The war changed course after that. Also, Ruzzia can't occupy anything without stiff resistance.

[@MetallicReg]

No resistance there, since they only control land with people that are at least neutral to them.

[@emigrator08]

@@MetallicReg There have been a lot of saboteur actions in occupied territory, especially in the south. You're right, Ruzzia has support, especially in the east, but so does Ukraine.

[@aleksabenovic6046]

@@emigrator08 Well they still win all these battles. Oh yeah they don't because Western media will call it STRATEGIC RETREAT!

[@parslowpongbert1566]

The danger isn’t just from trump, anyone from the Republican Party would be a danger to democracy and a move towards supporting Putin.Mitch McConnell, for example, forced an exemption from Russian sanctions years ago for the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska who wanted to do business in McConnell’s state.

[@gdiwolverinemale2745]

If Trump is a danger to you, then he should definitely be reelected

[@lenini056]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 You should change your name to "Nod terrorist" because you see Trump in the same way Nod Followers see Kane. :/

[@glhmedic]

@@gdiwolverinemale2745 trump is a danger to anyone who is decent. Only trash votes for bubble butt.

[@crawdadad]

Wrong. Unsupportable opinion.

[@crawdadad]

Your opinion is that anyone who disagrees with you is a “danger to democracy”. Surely you can see how incandescently unreflective it is to maintain that half of America is a danger to democracy. I am a Republican but only because they align with my beliefs closer than the Democrats. With the election of Trump, all the Democrats needed to do to pick up votes is appear to be the rational party. Instead they said “hold me beer” and descended into a farcical clown show. Biden is exhibit #1. Hardly anyone wants him to be president and yet he’ll be re-elected because even fewer Americans want Trump to be president. Talk about wasting an opportunity and you are the embodiment of the very attitude that will continue to prevent us from moving in a positive direction. “Every person who isn’t in my group is a threat to democracy” says 🤡🤡🤡. I’m willing to bet that I know more about this country and the founding documents that created it than you.

[@pauljmeyer1]

The situation as it stands has been well summed up by Dr. Fuluyama and not in a pessimistic way. I long for the day that Putin's Regime collapses.

[@curtissmith1998]

he meant the end of history as in what is the end game, not that the end of the Soviet Union meant there would be no more history.

[@spooksmysteries4971]

I feel I must be fair here: Mr Fukuyama speaks here it all I've understood so far. I rise my hat to him

[@alexandrianautocruiser8024]

It feels so rich coming from the writer of "The End Of History", the most fascist Weltanschauung ever. :)

[@vlad_47]

These are the guys who licked their lips when the USSR was gone and its recources ripe for the taking.

[@alexandrianautocruiser8024]

@@vlad_47 Yes, still, he is a fascist.

[@Fuzzybeanerizer]

@@vlad_47 The USSR was gone and (you say) its resources ripe for the taking and... nobody attacked. 1945 the USA had a monopoly on nuclear weapons and... the USA did not attack. Hey, maybe nobody actually wants to attack?

[@vlad_47]

@@Fuzzybeanerizer And why did Churchill then propose Operation Unthinkable? The US declined because you cant defeat the Red Army with couple atomic bombs and german cannon fodder. Just like after USSR Russia still had over 18.000 nuclear warheads. But the recources of the USSR were ripe for the taking and were taken in one way or the other in all of the 15 post-soviet states.

[@alvinjohnson2986]

Sometimes educated people make things up and speak their political views and opinions as truth.

[@Sannypowa]

Very interesting, it would have been even better if the interviewer had a better command of the English language and wrote all his questions beforehand

[@ElasticbrandNet]

My thoughts exactly.

[@JackRowsey]

….Especially since his country spawned the English language.

[@mykofreder1682]

Russia should be on every country North Korea/Iran list, you are not allowed to travel there. Putin wants the Soviet Union, they should be put back into the Soviet box as far a travel goes. And this special travel situation should remain until the government changes.