Francis Ngannou & The UFC Antitrust Lawsuit

[@jjhfcf_metal6259]

Bobby Lashley just told Ariel Helwani that he didn't sign with the UFC because he would be restricted from doing any work with the WWE. Bobby said Scott Coker did not impose any restrictions on him and that was why Bobby fought for Strikeforce.

[@thirtythree504]

I'm sure it had nothing to do with him being on steroids

[@aliadwan7999]

@@thirtythree504 Why would it?

[@Goremachine]

@@thirtythree504 Right, UFC never hires fighters on steroids.

[@devilboykillz]

That or the ufc seen he sucked and didnt want him. Could barely beat people no one ever heard of.

[@jerrypierre3001]

@@thirtythree504 you mean someone like Lesnar, Overeem, or Shane Carwin?

[@TheKoog97]

This a great, unbiased, factual approach to explaining such a complex subject in a way that people not versed in legal jargon can understand.

[@truthwooph4083]

Have UFC fired him and stripped him of the belt ? You better believe Vince would if someone pulled this b.s on WWE.... "That's illegal" how sway ? His not even in the top 10 highest selling ppvs and his complaining about his pay....if you don't like how much you are being paid....don't work their simple ! I'd bet money it's all a work though...too make him more popular....but... I'm happy for Dana too prove me wrong and blacklist him from the sport in America...like my boy Vince would .... Force him too go fight in Singapore's one promotion....see how he likes that lmao !

[@Tonytony019]

You could easily find bias just based on the time spent talking about each sides arguments.

[@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810]

@@truthwooph4083 How has this reply got anything to do with the original comment? Sounds like you're arguing against yourself.

[@truthwooph4083]

@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 I just can't stand these government approved celebrities man,

[@madgavin7568]

@@truthwooph4083 Bootlicker.

[@Noboxingnolife69]

Also the UFC is predatory with their classification of them as independent contractors so they don’t have to give the fighters any benefits while placing anti competition rules on them as if they’re employees. It’s absolutely disgusting

[@neveroffended45]

Aren't those usually 90 days no compete ? Hardly life changing .

[@neveroffended45]

You guys really think every single fighter signed by the ufc deserves treatment for life ? Imagine Junie Browning being on the ufc payroll right now just cause . Things could probably be a little better for the fighters but stuff like this happens literally in every single big company in America and you guys hand those guys thousands of dollars for plastic phones that cost about 98 bucks to manufacture .

[@fostersstubbyasmr9557]

@@neveroffended45 doesn’t mean it is g wrong? This should be a start fuck the UFC pay your fighters

[@Deeplycloseted435]

@@neveroffended45 almost half of UFC fighters are not American and don’t live in America. Healthcare is a privilege in America, and nowhere else besides 3rd world nations. Of course ANY fighter doesn’t deserve benefits. Like other professional sports, an agreement is made based on games/seasons on a roster.

[@neveroffended45]

@@Deeplycloseted435 healthcare in America is a privilege ? Is that what you call being forced to pay money to insurance companies ? Privilege ?

[@rudiecrew]

Francis will be remembered for standing up to Dana and the UFC. If anything comes from it, he will be credited. If not, he will be remembered for trying and, honestly, he's not the first but has made more waves with his comments than anyone else.

[@fostersstubbyasmr9557]

@Dave White lol no he’s a beast and helping with the unfair contracts

[@cameronroberts5461]

@Dave White dude you just proved his point. Couture is a legend and fought for better contract rights, he didn't win but still!

[@Umadoveracommentg]

@Dave White mate, you're the casual if you think Randy isnt a legend.

[@franco30528]

Not really, Francis is only looking after himself and not the fighters as a whole, has only 1 tittle defense and not a ppv star, but he’s legacy is not over yet

[@Umadoveracommentg]

@Dave White "Lol he is remembered as a former champion and that's it" what are u for typa man to not even stand on ya own words bruh.

[@THE_CDN]

The "Champion clause" is B.S. Either you're an employee or an independent contractor. Either Zuffa pays for healthcare, fight camps and a yearly wage or they let fighters be actual free agents. A bonus for free agency is that there can truly be an undisputed WORLD champion.

[@CH-wn8sq]

I believe the term is "slave"

[@chrisgeorge651]

@@CH-wn8sq 👍

[@thirtythree504]

So if a fighter gets hurt and is out for a year. He brought in no money for the company. Why should the company pay for everything?

[@rohs9464]

@@thirtythree504 because he works for the company as an employee, so if he got hurt it'd be on the job or else he wouldn't be getting compensated...

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

@@thirtythree504 Yes if you get hurt on the job then you should be paid, because they are responsible for your well being. Why do you think its mandatory for employers to provide healthcare, because your responsible for their well being at your job site.

[@kwamechristianesq.4558]

As a lawyer, let me say. Damn! Y’all killed this breakdown. Antitrust is an insanely complex area of law. Your ability to synthesize the information and convey it in an understandable type of way is endlessly impressive. I don’t know if it’s worth much but I am giving you an honorary law degree certified by yours truly, Kwame Christian. If you try to use it and get in trouble, don’t be a snitch!

[@MrKinkysloth]

A lawyer who has street ethics, i fucking love it.

[@evanfogherty5161]

You're not a lawyer

[@GAZAMAN93X]

@@evanfogherty5161 why do you say that?

[@JetsareBack12]

@@GAZAMAN93X because smol internet ego. I believe him personally

[@MrKinkysloth]

@@evanfogherty5161 he said it on the internet must be true, who care move along

[@SrulDog]

FYI, if plaintiffs win an antitrust suit, they also get their attorney fee. Famous case of USFL vs NFL, the jury awarded $1 as a fuck you. It was tripled to $3, and then NFL had to pay millions in attorney fees.

[@sumcallmejesus]

$1???

[@SrulDog]

@@sumcallmejesus yup. Search "usfl vs nfl antitrust lawsuit verdict". It was in 1986.

[@DarkLordofTheSith69]

The UFC got its business model from WWE ..Dana even said it in an old interview ..WWE or F at the time bought up all its competition called its talent independent contractors while treating them as employees with tight restrictions and using leverage to pressure talent into signing contracts far below their market value

[@dasdeke]

This is why I love this channel. I happened across you guys during the lockdown, and have been better informed about MMA then I was prior. This video was a great example presenting the case and it's both sides. EDIT: My only hope is that these laws don't push the sport in the way of boxing, as there is not much interest in the current state of boxing aside from a few mega fights.

[@truthwooph4083]

I'm more interested in how Dana's going too explain not firing this guy .... because you know he won't... What's the excuse gonna be ? I can't wait ! Also if he doesn't fire this guy...the next person he does fire...better sue him into next month... Nothing is more scummy than holding up a promotion for money...so if Dana is cool with that... He should be cool with everything..... including women flashing the camera post fight for attention lmao... It wouldn't damage that sport more than this overrated clown already has....let's be adults dude... Balls in your court Dana....👀🧐 I'm waiting....

[@Monterey96]

Oh man you gotta go way back to before the intro changed.

[@Godzilla52]

I think a settlement is probably the best outcome for this case. The UFC will still exist and thrive, but will have to clean up it's act in terms of it's treatment of fighters. Though you are right that if this goes to trial and the plaintiffs win, MMA could transform into something like boxing, which would be terrible for the sport.

[@robert2690]

MMA as a whole is no different when it comes to pay than boxing.

[@robert2690]

@@Godzilla52 It’s already heading that way anyways.

[@zSpeSh]

You guys were the first MMA channel I encountered when i first got hyper-fixated on the UFC n you’re still the best by farrrrr. Thank you for all the content n the effort that goes into it! It really shows :)

[@the1abstrakt]

Exactly the same here bro. This channel has given me more knowledge / reference than anything to do with the UFC

[@thelatenightowl3079]

Should check out weasle as well

[@007oskari]

@@the1abstrakt mojahed fudailat is the mma content goat. If you dont know it look it up immideatly, they make actual news amd stories from mma animated using real soundclips and its allways the best. And the 2nd best mma content creator spot is shared space with mma on point and mype sports.

[@DawryMike]

The WWE pulls the same "independent contractor" horseshit. It's a cheaper way to tie down talent while avoiding the obligations that come along with being an employer in a high risk industry. It's absolutely shameless

[@truthwooph4083]

Since you know what WWE is, you know who Vince McMahon is....and thus you know his fired people who have held him up for money !!! Why isn't Francis fired !? If this is real and not a WWE style work too get Francis over with the fans... Why on earth is he still employed !? If I was Dana I'd strip the belt and fire him .....period It won't happen though...so I'm curious what the excuse will be....

[@gorkskoal9315]

Exactly. It took numerous class action suits to force the mcmans to admit they are workers, the end. AEW is still the new WCW and TNA mixed with Bush league type level of roughness in production. Part of their bigschitick and incorperation into a charter says (essentially) as far as the AEW is concerned these are workers they get paid on the regular and get 2 days off on the regular. Wait ECW did that as well...er well eventually. Part of why it folded: turns out actually paying your staff, even when it's bad ass stutment doing cosplay is fucking expensive.

[@yt.personal.identification]

It happens in most industries. It's not like it is the "fight entertainment" sector that do this. When someone pays for services, they can place requirements on the quality of service provided.

[@dean_604]

@@truthwooph4083 you are such a f#*&ing bootlicker bro. What makes you think an employer can fire people for no reason? Or even worse, fire someone because they stand up for their rights. Your ignorance of the law and how businesses work is laughable. Get off your knees.

[@russellcampbell3500]

@@truthwooph4083well this comment aged horribly. Lol

[@tylerakerfeldt7220]

The problem I have with the promoters testifying that they can sign elite talent is if they say the opposite, they are basically shitting on their entire roster. Obviously there are many elite fighters but it’s like no shit the promoters would side with one of their own

[@societybelike]

Been waiting for an extensive breakdown, never been let down by MMA on Point

[@xayer98]

Not even once

[@salvalooez2249]

@Derone Cerrone ufc are criminals

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Francis did a great job. He has every right to stand up to Dana White in the UFC in the way they treat Fighters. I know you all love the promotion because you love the sport but quit making excuses for Dana White's Behavior. The only one that's allowed to make money in the UFC is Dana White his partners and Conor McGregor

[@ginabeena6757]

Preach!

[@truthwooph4083]

If his such a victim why did he win his fight last week !? Thus advocating the champions clause in his contact ? He could of just tapped out once the bell rung and be done with it... But if he did that, people like you wouldn't be fanboying out for him and his marketability is out the window, not too mention it would ruin his reputation as a fighter Not too mention Dana not firing him Tons of questions need too be asked about this situation, but your victim complex kicked in so you aren't asking any questions

[@OptimusSatanas]

Poor Francis making $600,000 on his old contract, while refusing the $7,000,000 offered for a new reup (confirmed by him) because the UFC wont let him fight in AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SPORT. LMAO Yall dumb AF.

[@hellotcautiver]

@@truthwooph4083 how is his marketability gone? He’s still the champ, this is the biggest story in MMA at the moment and he’s at the center of it. And the champion’s clause isn’t a thing anymore

[@shanelee7612]

And Colby Covington, Jorge masvidal, Israel adesanya, Nate Diaz, Dustin porier, Jon jones, kamaru usman, khabib, max Holloway, DC, and plenty more. If you bring value and actually make the ufc money then they pay very good. People that are only there to fill the card and bring no money to the ufc are still making at least 50,000 a year and that’s not including all of their own sponsors that the ufc gave them the platform to even get those sponsors. I do think the ufc should pay set amounts and fighters not have to worry about winning to get the whole amount. I just truly believe people are blowing it out of proportion. The brand new unknown fighters still make as much as and more than me and I work 45 hours a week

[@decarlocalloway01]

All that matters is the Revenue Split. If the fighters had options, they wouldn't be making 10-16% of the cut. The argument ends there. The only way to pay that little is to artificially suppress wages.

[@gorkskoal9315]

Right, and being forced to change from a conderacy of "indpenent contractors" to ya know workers. You might have been able to get away with that shit in the 90s Ultimate Fighting Championship was a 1 off per a PPV. lol but it's not exactly a 1 off anymore if it's been going on for 30 something years lol! like comon now. the boys show up more or less 5 days a week and need to put food on the table.

[@tomdowney37215]

Bingo

[@JdMetal]

From what I understand from this video, its more than just money. Since the contracts is secrets/nda, the shit UFC pulls are more than that....if UFC doesn't like you, they can shelves you since you still under contract for years...and if you thinking about moving to other promotions, forget about it....you can't even in contact with them till your contract expires..

[@Tony-gy1iy]

Last time I was this early, people still thought Jon Jones was a good person

[@danielcitty6235]

We've gotta be coming up on a decade by now

[@pimpyouout5252]

He a good person , just likes too party he still the goat 🐐

[@crosbywk]

Heeey-ooo

[@rustyshackleford7265]

Last time I was this early I thought something was true but due to receiving some updated information I no longer feel that way.

[@AlexD-mo8sb]

casually beats women

[@Noboxingnolife69]

We stand behind Francis 🙏🏿

[@danathanaurelius4685]

@j12gz no ppl like you are a dime a dozen These fighters are a bit more like quarters lol

[@SeppukuDoll]

@j12gz Nobody cares whether you stand behind Francis or not. You don't matter.

[@MrTooEarnestOnline]

@j12gz and yet you’ll never be half as relevant

[@KobraTHFC]

@j12gz okay so if it's so easy then why don't you use roids as well and get into the ufc to knock him out?

[@hardnewstakenharder]

So glad that the culture is shifting to support fighters and not promotions.

[@thirtythree504]

Were not

[@larrycsonka2873]

Only weirdos support the promotion

[@hellotcautiver]

@@larrycsonka2873 lol lot of weirdos out there then, a lot of them still side with Dana/the UFC unfortunately

[@madgavin7568]

@@larrycsonka2873 Trolls as well.

[@Teddy-se8qb]

theres still plenty of dana white knights out there. these guys are ufc fans. not mma fans.

[@G14_Spike]

Finally, I knew you guys would post this sometime after Dana White's post UFC 270 interview. Thanks MMA on Point!

[@lolly_bread]

Indeed, you mean the interview with Laura where he fucking lied - yet again! If he REALLY did have an emergency back-stage, then presumably there was no ego-driven bad-blood with Francis so.. He called Francis to congratulate him. NO he didn't... He texted Francis to congratulate him. NO he didn't... He met later with Francis to congratulate him. NO he didn't... Dana White is a fucking liar and for all of the good he's done over the years, his ego is conversely doing even more damage now. Time for him to go.

[@BigOunce___]

Dang MMA On Point is absolutely ON POINT. The level of comprehension is regularly outdone. Great work all.

[@horseheaddad3427]

Love the UFC. Love what Dana has done for the sport, but I'm all for this lawsuit. Fighters need to take action. Unionize and strike.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

Dana has done great back when UFC was really close to go bankrupt, in terms of breathing life in to the company he's done an extraordinary job but now instead of sharing this wealth with his fighters he's trying to fuck them as much as possible because he probably actually believes he's the only reason for the company's success when in reality the Fighters are the reason that the UFC is growing.

[@Umael84]

@@Ar1AnX1x every fighter have signed that they fight for that money. There are fighters that will sign for a lot less to. In every industri there will bi contraktors making the job cheaper then the other but not better. If they don't wan't to fight don't sig and take a nother job at McDonalds or something.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

@@Umael84 great advice dude, incredible analysis on the subject.

[@Umael84]

@@Ar1AnX1x what is it then??? Well why don't McDonalds pay there employes millions they are much bigger then the Ufc? If they signed the contract they signed the contract.

[@Umael84]

@@Ar1AnX1x what are you a commie..??

[@dayontapout]

I really hope it works out for the fighters. Putting your health on the line, voluntary as it might be, is still putting your health on the line and they should bre compensated accordingly.

[@jeepnutscotty]

You forget that each one of them has signed a legally binding contract…. They’ve got zero chance of getting a cent in reality… their lawyer is taking them all for a ride and not one of them can see it LMAO

[@aschu234]

Doesn’t change the fact that the contracts are predatory in nature and definitely not in the fighters favor. Dana worth over 500,000,000 while spencer fisher gets no help (messed up with CTE) from UFC at all. They get locked into these garbage contracts then have to jump through hoops to get out of it while UFC can shit can you at any time. I hope Francis wins big and the UFC pays him. And all the other fighters. The 50% that all other major sport franchises get.

[@joshlewis575]

@@EverydayToker and then what? Go sign with some scrub league? Imagine if the NFL had this same percentage pay scale, imagine Patrick Mahomes having to go play in some 2nd tier league cause the elite league is a bunch of tight asses. Dana being a billionaire while 90 of their biggest stars never sniffed 50 million is something. These dudes putting it all on the line for 100k is insane, if u go 3, 5 tough rounds you'd be lucky to sniff 30gs after taxes n your hospital stay. Never mind what they're doing to their brains. If ya couldn't tell Dana white is a tool, total scumbag

[@jgreen802]

@@jeepnutscotty yeah that's not how class action lawsuits work. The lawyers only get paid if they win the case, and then they will recieve a percentage of the settlement. If their chances of winning were 0, they wouldn't waste their time, because it would mean doing like 10 years of work for nothing. I guess there is a tiny chance a KZbin commenter that calls himself "JeepNut" knows more about the legal system than they do, but I seriously doubt it.

[@gunsharck]

The fact of the matter is the UFC are the only show in town so you dance to their tune or learn to code. Cut and dried

[@OrochiGeese7]

Oh how I've been waiting for this moment to be examined and brought into focus. The UFC, Dana White, Ari Emmanuel, Hunter Campbell and Endeavor deserve lose this case and change the sport of MMA for the betterment of the athletes involved.

[@Saul1913]

I'm surprised no one has brought up the shady way the fertitas acquired the UFC. They were part of the Las Vegas athletic that almost killed off the sport by not wanting to sanction fights for the UFC. Forcing the original owner of the UFC to sell since they couldn't get events sanctioned. Then the same fertitas that didn't want to sanction the fights bought it for cheap. On that note , the fertitas have a long history with the mob in vegas, they're just criminals in suits.

[@painandpyro]

Can't thank you guys enough for covering this. Just to think, all of this could be avoided if the UFC didn't treat their fighters like trash...

[@gregfalco4528]

Imagine fighting so hard for years just for the right to pay your fighters (who risk their lives in the cage) the lowest amount possible, and still considering yourselves stewards of the sport.

[@shaydenprime275]

Every single big company does that lol

[@Jaxedup]

Well done! A clear and simple deep dive with an explanation.

[@ihaztehSNIPAH]

dude, this is a really well written video. I appreciate the time and effort putting into researching this.

[@calumclark9128]

If the judge has all the information and isn't corrupt, there is no way that this falls in the ufc's favor

[@Bootchair]

Think about it, they are claiming UFC has a monopoly on the market. Many other promotions exist that are not owned by them. The fighters are not forced to sign anything. It’s only because the UFC DWARFS their competition in size and how many people watch it. You can say the UFC is much like Amazon and other promotions would be like Newegg/B&H/Etc. They are shady for sure but in the court system they are likely to have their motion to dismiss granted.

[@jozefhorniak8191]

I think the opposite, what ufc is doing is maybe not all nice, but still legal.

[@franco30528]

Are you a clown full time or part time

[@nussnougat5462]

@@Bootchair That’s the shame, the monopoly laws don’t apply these days as they were intended. We have all the downsides of a monopolistic company but no legal hold against them. Amazon and Facebook being the perfect example

[@PerfectPanels9]

@@franco30528 probably just when he's with your girl.

[@regularstan6212]

Nice! Good to see the actual breakdown of it.

[@OllieBlazin]

My dream scenario for fighters is that there’s 2 types of contracts Loyal, and Independent Independent, you sign a multi fight contract and if taken a fight that both parties agree to, get paid said amount. However you should still be allowed to take on other endeavours. Wether it be boxing or another MMA promotion, etc. Loyal, sign a multi fight exclusivity contract for lesser pay but guaranteed health benefits and a timetable for when you’re guaranteed fights

[@kkb892]

They have health care bro. Who do you think covers fight related injuries? The UFC is open about the fact that they spend a lot on health insuranxe for fighters

[@drreverse2074]

@@kkb892 that's not health care . All injuries being taken care is health care .

[@DrBeauHightower]

Great video

[@jonkelly3178]

If Tommy had not narrated this one, I would not have made it through the whole video, with that being said.... another great video!!!!

[@pcpalan]

I really thought I was the only one that was bothered by who narrated it.i still watch, but tommy is so much better.

[@mrblonde1264]

Well done guys,this is a much talked about subject,good to get some clarity 👏

[@tedzanders7451]

Thanks for the legal breakdown.....I hope that Ngannou can break free from the UFC and make the kind of money he deserves. Not these disrespectful allowances to keep you locked in and beholding to the UFC. But I doubt it... It is as clear as day, that Dana White and EDR is as treacherous as they come.

[@PokeProfPoke]

It's not the payout that really matters the most, its the fact that they make fighters independent contractors so that they don't have to bother about their health/insurances and benefits. Thats the messed up part. In every other organization that I have received offers from during 2009-2015, all of them take care of those issues, its only the ufc.

[@truthwooph4083]

Francis doesn't care about that, this is all about him and making money for himself with the settlement and the sympathy ppvs buys he gets from the fans at his next fight ! How do you make a 7 foot 500 pound monster the underdog !? Have him beef with his promotor ! Lil Uzi Vert did the same thing too help boost his rap career ... So it's been tried and tested !

[@LiberationBookClub]

I hope that the UFC loses this suit. They owe fighters into the damn billions.

[@shrimp19921]

No one is forcing anyone to sign with the UFC ?

[@Bootchair]

They won’t, they will likely get a motion to dismiss granted with prejudice.

[@truindividual]

@@Bootchair UFC im sure has great Lawyers

[@jozefhorniak8191]

Billions? You must be high.

[@Jaydawg562]

@@shrimp19921 I understand that but damn some of these fighters literally elevate the brand and bring more viewers you’d think some of these fighters would have net worth’s of at least 30 million at this point. I think that’s what they expect as well to make a name and then negotiate much larger checks but it never happens. Even Conor made the majority of his multimillion outside of the ufc

[@capybararancher8638]

Great analysis but there’s also the issue that the reason the lawsuit takes forever is because this allows the ufc to choke out the lawsuits funds to continue and let’s them gets their ducks in a row and change current contracts if it were up to the fighters the case would go to trial today

[@mattkaiser8984]

They wouldn’t win anyway lol. They’ve no case. I’d drag it out and suffocate them just for sport and to send a message. Fighters should help boost Eagle FC or other competition if they got beef.

[@robert2690]

@@mattkaiser8984 Unless every fighter goes on a strike.

[@mattkaiser8984]

@Robert good luck getting every fighter to “go on strike”.

[@lukeoutcold7187]

@@robert2690 People gotta make a living

[@capybararancher8638]

@@mattkaiser8984 if youd pay attention to the video youre commenting under you would see how another promotion gaining steam to be real competition is impossible (Theyre emails detailing how thats the ufcs strategy revealed in the lawsuit) thats how they got in this position youre essentially saying everyone should give up which unless youre an employee for the UFC is a pretty dumb thing to say

[@bluefox9019]

This is how journalism should be!! Thank you liked and subscribed

[@mrrager7374]

Big props to @MMA On Point for making this video explaining the beef between the fighters and the UFC!

[@TititoDeBologay]

As usual brilliant. Cheers for pointing Us to people with a bit more insight in the sports, its economics and business side. I strongly believe, it's a labour issue at the core of It, as fighters are contractual workers. But the ways the U.S. is set up against workers in general, manual/physical ones in particular, the anti-trust was probably the best way to come about It, to at least make some noise.

[@CR4CKSM0K3R_]

The us is not set up against workers but ok

[@XxBoomxHeadshotxX]

@@CR4CKSM0K3R_ ok so explain insane inflation rates, rent prices at there highest they’ve ever been. Insane work hour schedules. Minimum pay, wage theft, treated like subhumans by power hungry middle managers. Constantly belittled and made to feel small. Want me to go on?

[@Umadoveracommentg]

@@XxBoomxHeadshotxX idk bro seems like a worldwide economic crisis to me, as this is also a problem in europe/asia and oceania

[@GovernorRiffRaff]

What are you talking about? A great heap of employed unskilled labor are unionized. Makes it almost impossible to be fired lol

[@CR4CKSM0K3R_]

@@XxBoomxHeadshotxX keep smoking that good stuff because you are out of your mind. First you list inflation as if our government is printing money just to keep our workers down? What? What are you talking about? People like you who think the world is against them are just the worst to be around. No one is holding you down except yourself.

[@mcnutty26]

Great video. I would add a slight correction that if the UFC secured summary judgment, that would not end the legal process. The judgment could be appealed by the plaintiffs.

[@KarlL99]

The fighters would benefit from a union

[@hawkeyeeagle5280]

anyone who fights to live is having a crazy way to live. They are litterally putting their lives on the line- every time they enter the ring. It is a matter of respect, a matter of how much life is worth. Let the fighters get paid!

[@montygriswald7296]

I’ve signed up for the ufc gym and their streaming service. Canceling anything with the ufc name behind it has proven annoying for me. It’s hard for me to support these guys anymore.

[@luke4188]

the UFC just need to hire Jon Jones’ lawyer… whoever that guy is could talk his way out of anything

[@NicolaMaxwell]

😂😂 you're not wrong...

[@KozyKoti]

Unlike john, who gets in everything :-(

[@obadboy]

Of course the ufc wants this case thrown out, discovery for the fighters would really expose the ufc & fighter pay & Retaliation from Dana White

[@rickeyhall9994]

Has nobody learned from Vince McMahon and the WWE? What Dana has done- buying up all the competition- is the same thing and it's doubtful he'll lose a dime.

[@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt]

Dana is the fucking man !!!! Hell yea!!!!

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

@@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt He's a greedy bastard who steals the money that the fighters make for him. I don't care what you say, because when we boil it down, the fighters are the ones who directly make the money for the franchise. Without them, there's no advertisers, betting, PPVs, ticket sales, dumbass NFTs, etc. He doesn't deserve to make anywhere near the amount of money he does, especially when the lowest ranked fighters are fighting for 10k to show and 10k to win, which after training costs, travel, insurance, etc., is only about $28,000 a year profit, if the fighter wins 3 fights, which is highly unlikely. The Reebok and Venum deals also destroyed the livelihoods of many low-level fighters, because they depended on advertisers on their shorts and gear to actually not risk losing money each time they fought. Fuck Dana, the Fretita's, Zuffa, and Endeavor.

[@tallenrockwell5917]

Who also recently had an anti-trust lawsuit filed against them, though by a competitor rather than former employees

[@franco30528]

@@Bipolar.Baddie he loves laughing at the frustration from broke bumps like yourself

[@thirtythree504]

Are bellator and one fc not companies

[@AleJandro-wj4oe]

I love this channel and this was a good informative video. All your guys do a great job but I love it when Tommy is on the mic and that’s not because I dislike anyone else, Tommy is my fav

[@jeremyjordan6786]

Francis' broke many records and to this day he is the only man to ever make Dana Miss a main event, post fight press conference, buy shoes, and then give a lame excuse on top of all that. What a guy!

[@Temid26]

Naww Dana pulled this stunt with T. Woodley after he beat Darren Till. It's why the ufc isn't as high on till any more

[@Jordo86Jacobs]

First one to do all that for sure. But Dana was so pissed with Anderson Silvia after Damian Maia he didn’t put the belt on him either. But he did go to the presser… to chirp Anderson openly lol.

[@samdaforno9231]

I’m aware the amount of work for this but like a 40min/hour long version of this video would be amazing great content regardless I’m drunk and I understand everything good sign of a great video lads

[@sjtimmer7]

Thing is that soccerplayers have gone from being worth half a million to being worth 100 million. And I suppose the transfermarket in other sports is also quite something. Only those sports are teamsports. You play against another team every week, sometimes several times a week. Still, their worth and pay is rising through the years. But in MMA the fighter pay seems to rise less then inflation.

[@zombieepx1933]

Half the world watches soccer it has 3.5 billion fans… and it’s been around for centuries… why are we using soccer as a comparison lol it has little to do with it being a team sport and everything to do with the amount of revenue and popularity it brings. Viewership and merchandise sales is what creates revenue. It’s like complaining why Dustin Poirers hot sauce doesn’t make as much as Texas Pete or Tabasco lol.

[@TairyHesticles]

If the Sherman Act doesn't apply to Twitter, payment processors, or Facebook, I can't see this lawsuit working with thr UFC

[@MrMasters1983]

Because the people that control Twitter, payment processors, or Facebook dont control the UFC. This is their attempt to get it done. You are all being played. Notice the UFC is the one of the only organizations not pushing a worldwide scamdemic? They will get a "fighters association" in which they can buy control and put a stop to that.

[@tobysmith2081]

The UFC is big but they're not bigger than FB or Twitter. So I can see it working

[@tobysmith2081]

@@MrMasters1983 you sound exactly like the type of person id assume support the UFC in this lawsuit

[@MrMasters1983]

@@tobysmith2081 You sound exactly like the type of person who would fall for this over and over and over.

[@thirtythree504]

@@tobysmith2081 you sound like a Bernie bro. Government take care of me type

[@maksymgrach2607]

Literally just learned about the anti-trust act a month ago in my history class and was wondering about the ufc. It bought out the best of the fighters, has bought multiple other promotions, and has very limited opposition to it.

[@stevedv629]

I remember when for a moment there was ufc, pride, wec, and strike force. This was the best time in mma. UFC bought all of them and then immediately shut them down, and imported all the fighters. Nick Diaz, Dominick Cruz, Uriah Faber, Anthony Pettis, Jorge masvidal, and many of their stars came from these leagues. If that’s not trying to monopolize a market I don’t know what is

[@Maru-ge6jn]

A promotor worth over $500 million and a main card fighter gets $12.000. No health care , but all the risks. That's some mobster shit right there!

[@sydneyfrench13]

Also, What a job by Max editing this video. 👏 this page is top notch stuff.

[@Imhim247]

Francis win change the landscape of MMA forever. The possibilities can come in tenfold

[@chrysafisstamoudis9850]

I stopped at the 3 minute mark to give you a thumbs up and comment. Not only your vids have become better but you've come a long way, personally, in presenting them. I remember having commented many times on your voice when you first started presenting videos here. I thought it was wayyyyy over the top. Now you've toned down your voice and guess what ... Your voice is beautiful and I enjoy listening to you on your vids! Well F#%^@^ing done man! Keep it up!

[@northofbrandon]

Imagine being on TV all over the world, getting beaten up, and taking home 12k.

[@sayhitosteve2785]

Kudos for mentioning the Ali Act extension suit. The Ali Act is the existing precedent that will win the class action suit. Everything that Congress rule in favor of for professional boxing covers everything that the fighters are arguing for in the class action suit.

[@hellotcautiver]

Hopefully it extends to MMA

[@skipper4126]

I love how Tommy went from making shitty cartoons to being amazing on MMA of Point :D Epic character arc Tommy.

[@best-pro570]

Good job, please keep updating about the status. Thanks

[@NutCrud]

The Feds state there are certain rights all 1099 contractors have, like the UFC claims their athletes are. Technically the client is the UFC and the fighters are contracted. There are rights like the right when to work, the right to a fee, and most importantly the right to accept contract work in addition. The UFC can’t, by the letter of the law, tell fighters they can’t sign other contracts. But at the same time the UFC can terminate that contract whenever they please and without any reason. This how corporations like the UFC manipulate contractors. It’s a classic way companies use to treat people like employees, without any rights of an employee. The UFC are one of many exploring people like this.

[@shawns.12]

I really hope the fighters win this. And I think they have a chance tbh

[@burraq1.032]

didn't they do the delaying of the fights so that fighter will have to wait a long time to fight to get a paycheck with Francis also as Francis stated in Helwani interview after UFC 270 you can watch it

[@nahnahnahhhh]

Tommy, you are a gift to MMA

[@iamDBA1]

Honest to god I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere for at least another decade. Even if it does happen in the fighters favor (which is like 12% at best), Dana will probably retire before it even gets a ruling

[@adriel68]

The editing in all your videos is absolutely incredible. Congratulations

[@guitarjunky]

I'm surprised these UFC fighters can't simply come together and go on strike. The UFC doesn't really have anything without their star fighters.

[@Gygsd]

The problem is a lot of guys can’t afford to not fight only the top few guys can do that

[@IVANOOZE69]

Some people can’t afford to just not work dude. It sounds good but it’s not realistic

[@guitarjunky]

@@Gygsd Amazon workers can't afford to strike either but they know that's the only way they'll see change.

[@jozefhorniak8191]

I believe majority of them are simply satisfied with current terms. Ufc is still offers best conditions and actually very only few individuals want to leave before their contract is finished.

[@NW_Blessed]

Because you signed the contract!!!!!! You don’t like it go else where why do you people think you’re so entitled to everything!!!! Not how business works. No wonder you’re surprised you cas

[@alemayehubogale7474]

Thank you for not mentioning Jake Paul’s ingenious efforts🙏🏽

[@sriramwriting]

If you have ever belonged to or agitated for a union, it is in your interest to support the fighters in their lawsuit against the UFC. This is a labor rights issue. #supportthefighters

[@illcommunicvtion]

This is really, really well told. More vids like this plz and I’ll love your channel forever. Yay.

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

I hope that the UFC gets fucking ANNIHILATED by this lawsuit. They'll pretty much always be the top of the MMA promotions, the only difference is that they'll actually have to treat their fighters like actual human beings.

[@thirtythree504]

If the ufc pays 5 billion thats it. Ufc is gone. Mma on point goes down too because most of their content is based off the ufc

[@nussnougat5462]

@@thirtythree504 and the fighters all stop fighting? And the interest in the sport goes away too? Damn you are right. Now that you said this, I never cared about the fighters, I only wanted to see the nice ufc logo.

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

@@thirtythree504 You do realize that MMA On Point would just make videos on the other organizations, right? Also, the UFC wouldn't be getting sued if they haven't been actively using coercive tactics to abuse fighters' contracts and buy out all competition. Also, the UFC makes MORE than enough money to survive a $5B lawsuit, especially since the likelihood of that being the payout is incredibly slim.

[@sppsports2449]

This will settle or won't go to a verdict in favor of the fighters, just based on my knowledge of antitrust and having a distant understanding of the facts. My reasoning is that this isn't a Section 1 violation (which is left for horizontal conspiracies, for example if Target and CVS decided to fix the price of their products). Section 1 is the most impactful antitrust suit you can bring. This, however, only implicates the UFC, making it a Section 2 monopoly violation. Section 2 violations often require a showing of market power, and then they are judged under the "Rule of Reason" which almost always favors defendants (the UFC is the defendant in this case). Antitrust suits that go under the Rule of Reason are so difficult to win it's almost futile to even bother. Best bet is a settlement, but settlements don't affect the law, they just grant money to the plaintiffs. Just my two cents.

[@jtpower99]

The UFC would be idiots not to settle. Throw a ton of money at them, more than you're probably comfortable with!and make it go away! I hope they don't. It's time someone put them in their place and show them they don't have the last say on everything

[@OptimusSatanas]

Yall dumb. Just wait til the fighters control everything and we have an endless clown show.

[@truthwooph4083]

In storyline, if Francis doesn't settle UFC will have too fire him, why would they keep him on the roster after this if it goes too court and he wins !? Makes no sense lmao It's going too be settled because it's the only way too keep Francis as the victim and hero while still keeping him employed ! This is wwe dude...it's sad you can't see that !

[@xWonders_worldx]

@@truthwooph4083 wtf r u even saying..

[@kameronjones7139]

@@OptimusSatanas ok Dana white

[@truthwooph4083]

@@xWonders_worldx you are the guy who still believes wrestling is real lmao

[@3vChava]

I guess we're gonna be watching Eagle FC

[@thehammer3193]

great break down. The fighters really need to just unionize. Normally I'm not a fan of unions but in this case it's warranted. As another commenter pointed out, the UFC does not pay these fighters for training nor do they provide health insurance if they get hurt while training. They only get paid when they show up for a fight and they only get health coverage if they are hurt during that fight. This forces a lot of guys to hide an injury until they step into the ring, just so they don't have to pay for surgery out of pocket. Then to add insult to potential injury, even though the fighters are not getting paid for their time in training, they are still prohibited from fighting in other events that fall outside their UFC contract. In other words, "we own your time even though we are not paying you for it". This is all grossly unfair. It's possible for a fighter to spend 6 months in training without a paycheck, and then get hurt the day before their fight and lose out on their paycheck and be responsible for their own medical bills. They take on all this risk in order to provide a product that the UFC is making millions on. This all has to stop. (Dana white is personally worth over half a billion)

[@PurpleLightning6was9]

If you aren’t a fan of unions, then you’re literally the reason a union isn’t forming. People like you apparently don’t like rights and protection.

[@thehammer3193]

@@PurpleLightning6was9 I'm not a fan of unions because they tend to abuse their power. I was working a trade show in las Vegas back in the 90's. We needed an extension cord. Just the little kind you buy for $4.00 bucks at Walmart. The venue charged us $75.00 to rent the cord and then they required us to pay a "union certified electrician" $125.00 to plug it in. Unions can and do go from protecting workers to a way to fleece consumers. That is why I don't like them. But in the absence of honest business owners then a Union can be the answer.

[@zombieepx1933]

They could be mining in the sand mines of Africa, do they really have it that bad? From rags to riches but it’s never good enough, entitlement is a disease running rampant in these times during COVID they could have been laid off bc their job isn’t essential. I hope Francis is let go and deported from the US so he can sulk in his own greed in his 3rd world origin. He said he would be a champ that fights all the time Stipe holds up the division blah blah blah, what a hypocrite. The money got to his head.

[@thehammer3193]

@@zombieepx1933 Is that you Dana? Yes the fighters really have it that bad. The UFC treats them like independent contractors who only get paid when they fight but require them to go through months of intense training to get ready to fight. Meanwhile they prohibit them from fighting elsewhere to make money so they own their time without paying for it. In this last fight the UFC pulled in 32 million in PPV buys alone. They paid a grand total to all the fighters of 1.8 million. That is about 5% of their earnings that actually goes to the fighters. All other professional sports pays about 50% to their players. It is deeply wrong on many levels.

[@zombieepx1933]

@@thehammer3193 well that’s a lie. Francis made 600k and then another 600k from ppv shares. Gane made 500k and then 600k from ppv shares so that already exceeds your fictional payout of “$1.8 million to all fighters” lol. Brandon Moreno made 200k and then 600k from ppv shares, Figueredo made 150k plus 600k from ppv shares. That’s $4 million already in just four fighters. Also there isn’t even any information on how many PPV buys there was at UFC 270 yet that takes time..there was only a $5.2 million gate which is small and no official information on ppv buys so your numbers are just as wrong on your total revenue as they were on your fighter payout. Try again kid. You can’t compare “professional sports” to UFC payouts. They’ve been established for many years and have a fan base and revenue much larger than the UFC.. like the NFL for example (American football) generated $12.2 billion in revenue last year while the UFC did $400 million.

[@BrownsNJ24]

Always a good day when you upload!!

[@MrCONBO]

Gotta love a Tommy Toehold breakdown. Good shit gentlemen.

[@jasonkennedy9950]

Absolutely fantastic video guys, more of these mma deep dive long form type videos would be great.

[@jeffreygordon007]

I’d like to see the records of the fighters Bellator has signed that have left the ufc. They probably mostly fall on the veteran side of things. ( decline of their careers) If I had to guess the fighters that have left Bellator for the UFC are on the come up. ( rising stars ) Chandler would fall in the middle.

[@CallMeSkillz_]

Those messages really show how much they care about their fighters.

[@peripheralhandshaker]

Bellator, PFL and Eagle FC are rubbing their hands now if this keeps up lool

[@iamgoliath225]

Solid presentation and well researched thanks for the great content

[@HonkeyKongLive]

Ngannou all the fucking way.

[@EmoEmu]

Not just MMA. This would affect WWE and boxing as well.

[@rogerj21]

You guys are great...damn what a great work. Hoping this end up great for the fighters, for the sport and for us the fans...

[@AxaFin]

if it ends great for the fighters it will end up bad for the fans.

[@rogerj21]

@@AxaFin believe me bro...i thought hard about it...just hoping to them to find a way the works out for everybody

[@NotKD35]

In all honesty, I feel extremely split on this issue. On one hand I want the fighters who risk their lives out there to make great money. They deserve really good pay, health care and some form of retirement after a certain amount of fights/time. On the other hands some of the things fighters complained about are general contract tactics by most sports organizations. The promoter/team always wants to sign a longer contract so they can financially plan & lock in that talent for as long as possible. Promoters/teams often bully or punish players/fighters who do not cooperate with them. In fighting that might be making them wait on fighting while in the MLB it maybe sending them to the bench or even to AAA ball. All major sports in the United states have one league that does have a full fledged monopoly on each market. Only hope for the NFL will be the Rock working with the NFL to develop the XFL into a league that is a developmental place of young talent and somewhere vets go before retiring. Ask any professional athlete and they will tell you it’s a cutthroat business. Ultimately fighters do deserve a higher percentage of the companies earnings.. something at least like 35-45% to compare to the other major sports leagues. But just like every other sport.. the more talent & star power you have the more money you earn & power you have during negotiations.

[@caKravartin9]

As a corporate lawyer, I can tell you that this video is very well researched and is quite thorough. Great job guys! FU DANA

[@310smoker]

Ok lol . What about the result of this trial will it pay off the fighters

[@caKravartin9]

@@310smoker not my area of practice + im not based in the US, so don't know a lot about US competition law. But as it is with most things like this, it will definitely be a reach that something hugely positive comes off it, and middle ground settlements are more likely. But pressuring the organisation with threat is important in keeping it in line.

[@npeasee5105]

Best breakdown I’ve seen so far. Great video. 👍🏻👌🏻

[@supremeassailant]

I hope this goes through. The organization we “love and trust”… and they pull this kind of shit on fighters. 😑🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@mr.doctorcaptain1124]

No one trusts them lol. But yeah, we may love them too much...

[@Ace12341]

Ya love the ufc but on this instance I will always support the fighter and every mma fan or ufc fan should support the fighters if not you don’t deserve to watch these men go to battle.

[@torrancejones2072]

You answered a lot of questions. Thank you. Great video.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

It's such a shame that the fighters don't get together and uninionise!

[@Bubajumba]

Why would they? its only a few who have a problem, majority is satisfied. These few cases have been blown out of proportion and there is this hysteria around atm. UFC pays the best of all mma organizations and even the average fighter in ufc earns more than the average fighter in boxing.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

There needs to be a Combat Sports Association that governs rankings, rules, and titles and is independent from the UFC. There also needs to be an MMA fighters union.

[@majortom331]

That is what the MMAFA is trying to do with ongoing lawsuit.

[@mybudinesd4545]

This video is very informative and presented unbiased view of what’s going on with the lawsuit. I hope the fighters win this lawsuit because it will change the MMA industry stopping other organizations from totally screwing over fighters. The current fighters needs to look at what happened to the previous generation of fighters because they are going to be treated the same way. Look at how many UFC Champions that are broke not because they blew their money foolishly they were not paid much money and the little they had was used for medical bills due to all of the damage their body sustained during fights in the UFC.

[@jonathanriveracollazo9765]

Tommy's videos are the absolute best I always look forward to his videos and he is hilarious even on serious material

[@coatman]

I'm super impressed with this video. Labor rights is a huge deal imo and the fighters, boxers, NCAA athletes all need formal representation. I really hope Congress could pick up this issue on the legislative side as well. This was absolutely fabulous coverage and a basic econ explainer too. Way to go!

[@thirtythree504]

Its called getting a lawyer

[@Akudama_]

You think we can get top 10 best single round fights next? That'll be a very good video imo

[@rudder914]

Treble damages is the term you are looking for Tommy. I took antitrust law last semester, didn't get an A tho... Yes, I would be down to be a legal intern for free

[@gardenboydon]

Fantastic journalism on the video. Thanks 🙏