Frank Castle is Punisher NO MORE! | Punisher Vol 2

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@comicpop
@comicpop 8 ай бұрын
Buy the second volume of Punisher right here! amzn.to/3WfQvk1
@comicpop
@comicpop 8 ай бұрын
@@CartoonsEComicsStudio And you sound like a robocaller
@haydenh5398
@haydenh5398 8 ай бұрын
​@@comicpop😊😊
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 8 ай бұрын
Frank opens a day care, he's The Funisher. I'll show myself out.
@hatredlord
@hatredlord 8 ай бұрын
He gets an Ikea, he's the Furnisher.
@infamous1754
@infamous1754 8 ай бұрын
This comment was PUNishing
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 8 ай бұрын
@@hatredlord When he uses the restroom he's, The Flushiner. Someone pay me cuz that was pretty good.
@FlossyBottoms
@FlossyBottoms 8 ай бұрын
Frank opens a bakery. Come Easter weekend, he's the Hot Cross Bunisher.
@hatredlord
@hatredlord 8 ай бұрын
@@davidblank420 half an hour before that, he ate the dinner's entire stock, for he was the Famisher.
@DapperDaPonte
@DapperDaPonte 8 ай бұрын
The Punisher is possessed by a demon, given super powers, and granted immortality. Sal: “This book is just too real for people.” 😆
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 8 ай бұрын
Who wins? A god-slayer, precognizant demon with the body of a man trained so that every muscle fiber is a weapon, or one angry wife? Fella, you know the answer.
@ray.0409
@ray.0409 8 ай бұрын
when you guys released the first episode it was the end of my senior year of High School and I was about to leave for Army bootcamp (I'm not a Punisher military finatic, it's just a great episode). I listened to that episode almost on loop along with so many other of your guys episodes before I left. So happy to see this continuation. You guys are the best and your show is attached to so much of my highschool experience. Thank you 🫡😁
@natasalways
@natasalways 8 ай бұрын
Shits crazy. I’ve listened to them since 6th or 7th grade and now I’m 21
@ray.0409
@ray.0409 8 ай бұрын
@@natasalways felt that
@mykemendoza7644
@mykemendoza7644 8 ай бұрын
I don’t make a habit of saying this, but Thank You for your Service.
@frankbarrie6785
@frankbarrie6785 8 ай бұрын
That's awesome! And ur in boot camp? Props! Thanks for ur service fellow nerd! Represent! Lol
@ray.0409
@ray.0409 8 ай бұрын
@@mykemendoza7644 it's a privilege to have an awesome job that helps great ppl.
@bensneb360
@bensneb360 8 ай бұрын
For such a grounded character, Frank Castle sure has had some weird times
@mikhaelgribkov4117
@mikhaelgribkov4117 8 ай бұрын
Dude was vibing with Orcs one time
@caliph95
@caliph95 8 ай бұрын
Can only do so much for a character that's just guy with guns that shoots people
@Ducaso
@Ducaso 8 ай бұрын
It's kinda on brand.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 8 ай бұрын
@@caliph95I feel like max shows you can do a lot more.
@allnewforty2360
@allnewforty2360 4 ай бұрын
One time he got surgery to look black.
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 8 ай бұрын
"Oh! Oh no... ohhhhh nooooooo....." One of the best Ethan moments 43:00
@themilkman5004
@themilkman5004 8 ай бұрын
We need Tiffany to cover Magical Bullets
@1337snake888
@1337snake888 8 ай бұрын
that would be a GOAT episode
@draxdrexler9009
@draxdrexler9009 8 ай бұрын
I need it
@nicksmyth4050
@nicksmyth4050 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the reasons I think the Netflix version of Frank might be my favorite, cause it’s the best of both worlds. They make him this incredibly tragic & sympathetic figure, but go out of their way to say he is a very unhinged serial killer. He was a villain in Daredevil season 2, and in his own show, for every badass fight scene with him that makes him look awesome, there’s another scene from another person’s perspective of his kills, and it’s disturbing & uncomfortable. He genuinely loved and cared for his family, and was an overall good dad, but then they show that one scene where his son makes that comment and Frank goes berserk. It’s a perfect marriage between the two takes on the character
@AlriikRidesAgain
@AlriikRidesAgain 8 ай бұрын
Really, Netflix Frank is one of those times they really got it right. He's just... He's Frank. Perfectly formed.
@nicksmyth4050
@nicksmyth4050 8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better
@will_da_man_
@will_da_man_ 8 ай бұрын
Well said. Netflix/MCU Frank is perfect. 👏👏👏
@r.graves5531
@r.graves5531 8 ай бұрын
nah they basically turned him into wolverine "maybe i dont wanna kill and live a normal life" that is not a thought that occurs to the punisher ever. they kinda screwed him up royally.
@will_da_man_
@will_da_man_ 8 ай бұрын
@r.graves5531 what are you on about? Frank has that exact thought for the story in this episode lol. You might not like that take on the character but it's just another interpretation. Doesn’t mean they screwed him up.
@S0C0ZY
@S0C0ZY 8 ай бұрын
Last year the first episode made me get back into buying comics , 1 year later I have 4 long boxes full and multiple graded comics ! Thanks comic pop
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 8 ай бұрын
I would love to get a Life Story for Punisher. Especially a moment of kid Frank being a fan of Captain America, a legendary soldier who died in WW2, and then finding out he's back.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 8 ай бұрын
That’s just going to be a retread of max but dumber
@venomsnigle44
@venomsnigle44 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you guys covered this, I'm not a fan of the story and what it does do the punisher but I'm so glad you enjoyed covering it and I love seeing people enjoy stuff they like. And I always love listening to you guys anyway but it does actually give another opinion about why you enjoy it so thank you and I appreciate it
@donkyoofficial
@donkyoofficial 8 ай бұрын
Love the discussion of the Punisher character as a concept at the beginning, very informative imo!
@JadeSentinel
@JadeSentinel 8 ай бұрын
With X-Men 97 getting done and the final 3 part finale being Tollerence of Extinction The next two back issues should be E is for Extinction and Operation Zero Tolerance
@MrEnKaye
@MrEnKaye 8 ай бұрын
That split second of Sammy's Sonic rant made me sout out my cereal laughing 🤣😂😂
@machbass
@machbass 8 ай бұрын
The new Punisher, Joe Garrison, does have the ammo belt teeth on his outfit. I personally think its awesome.
@flafim
@flafim 8 ай бұрын
The "I'm not a soldier. I'm a marine" part is because each branch insists on having a different term. Soldier specifies the army.
@unevenstreets1182
@unevenstreets1182 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and in military culture they all hate on other like rival schools.
@cfynest1
@cfynest1 8 ай бұрын
Hooah! ✊🏽
@cfynest1
@cfynest1 8 ай бұрын
​@@unevenstreets1182its all love between family, its civilians we can't stand
@casteanpreswyn7528
@casteanpreswyn7528 5 ай бұрын
​@@cfynest1 cause this isn't a concerning statement at all. Seek help.
@galahadscomics2598
@galahadscomics2598 8 ай бұрын
Yes! Managed to watch it within the first hour of it being dropped. Amazing episode!
@Sicod79
@Sicod79 8 ай бұрын
Ares is a jealous god. Zeus- I am finally proud of you.
@Hulkzilla0
@Hulkzilla0 8 ай бұрын
Glad you’re continuing this series!
@THE_Dodge_Morningstar
@THE_Dodge_Morningstar 8 ай бұрын
😁When I saw this video uploaded... I just smiled, shut my office door, and started watching and relaxing like I was sitting at home.
@fearnloathingingeneral
@fearnloathingingeneral 8 ай бұрын
The subtle rearranging of the set so that the shelves and back screen line up like panels... 👨🏾‍🍳💋
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved this run! I also love Punisher as a character. He is a great example of doing an inversion of the fridging trope. While normally children and women die to give character motivation, Frank was always looking for a motivation. He just needed an excuse to inflict violence. Some kind of justifiable cause. Not to say he didn't love his family but he loves his war more. It is can be argued if this reason is too much, and maybe Frank hates himself for loving violence so much. Honestly the Max origin and this origin can still fit together when adjusted for few timeline related retcons.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 8 ай бұрын
Tyger really goes against this comic. He’s unhinged yes but from that comic I get the sense that he’s not looking for an excuse. Like he enjoys war and punishing the guilty but he also wants first and foremost to do the right thing. His family getting shot is just an excuse but it also very much isn’t an excuse because it shapes his world view to where criminals are viewed as the infection.
@hysterical5408
@hysterical5408 6 ай бұрын
I always hated the idea he was always looking for a motivation, for me that makes the impact of his family's death not feel as heavy or as impactful. Him just always being on the edge of being the Punisher just makes him a villain in my eyes, and not in anyway sympathetic.
@Flavoredbeef460
@Flavoredbeef460 8 ай бұрын
“How do you solve a problem like Frank Castle”
@WhatIsItAboutThem
@WhatIsItAboutThem 8 ай бұрын
Omg yes! I remember how I was dying for new episode after I finished that Back Issues. It's so fun remembering something you wanted like super bad. Like double the surprise when it shows up haha
@ineptgamer3814
@ineptgamer3814 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Too funny...! As a kid, I have to confess that I very much enjoyed Angel Punisher with the wings and lightning guns from God, though.
@mr.goblin6039
@mr.goblin6039 8 ай бұрын
We finally got you guys telling the end of this story. I also loved it. It was wild.
@alexanderf8451
@alexanderf8451 8 ай бұрын
I can see why Punisher fans really really hate this.
@ricmrp
@ricmrp 8 ай бұрын
Good, hope they hate it into some introspection.
@kevinlevin9651
@kevinlevin9651 8 ай бұрын
@@ricmrp lol , fans can love or hate something. when did that become an issue.
@BobTheHun64
@BobTheHun64 8 ай бұрын
Because it's was put out by self righteous windbags, letting their political beliefs and morals destroy the character.
@orngcreator6115
@orngcreator6115 8 ай бұрын
@@BobTheHun64the punisher is already an inherently political character. Stop saying you hate a take on a character “because they made it political” and please just be honest by saying that you hate it because it doesn’t adhere to your own political perspective.
@BobTheHun64
@BobTheHun64 8 ай бұрын
I'm not against political commentary, that was not remotely my argument, Garth Ennis's run was very political, he didn't do what Jason Aaron did, my issue is that they threw the character under the bus and ruined him because of their own personal moral and political sensibilities.
@benreilly4347
@benreilly4347 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for following up on this!!
@hartthorn
@hartthorn 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, it would be fascinating to see Frank come back after his Weirdworld vacation and processing this new information and him being, well... mellowed out. He took his ex-wife's words to heart. That he was just using her and the kids as an excuse to do what he always wanted to. And he still does want to. But he understands it better now. And of course all the heroes quickly find out he's back, and they're quick to let him know he's skating on thin ice. But he promises he's done with his old way of life. He doesn't want to do that anymore. Instead he wants to do something WAY more fucked up. Pulling from the heavily underrated Thomas Jane Punisher movie (fight me!), Frank's new M.O. isn't to just go in and shoot everything, but to orchestrate bad people dismantling their own lives BECAUSE they are bad people. So he's just using his skills and awareness of the mindset to just feed these people all the rope they could ever want until they hang themselves.
@RobW2K10
@RobW2K10 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad volume 2 was covered. Fair play lads
@KevinEakin-o3h
@KevinEakin-o3h 7 ай бұрын
I can't wait for a Punisher reboot with Frank coming back.
@Mikey.N5714
@Mikey.N5714 8 ай бұрын
Ares is just an old school punisher fan 😂😂 14:18
@GrazyX13
@GrazyX13 8 ай бұрын
So hyped you guys decided to cover the rest of this series!! I absolutely need to grab these!
@stcsuntzucreed
@stcsuntzucreed 8 ай бұрын
Like I said before... Don't really care about the Punisher, but I'm still intrigued
@Omar-wq9dz
@Omar-wq9dz 8 ай бұрын
I’d like to see Back Issues for Garth Ennis’ run
@kurtwaldron-e4e
@kurtwaldron-e4e 8 ай бұрын
I'd rather see Preacher. Hell I'd settle for just Punisher: The End.
@bryancohoon9333
@bryancohoon9333 7 ай бұрын
This was sick! Double episode ruled!
@BenAndJakeLightsaber
@BenAndJakeLightsaber 8 ай бұрын
Great episode! Love you guys! (Also, this is my favorite Punisher book, and I only read it because of you guys)
@kurtoogle4576
@kurtoogle4576 8 ай бұрын
I followed this story with Caped-Joel, and was hoping that Comic Pop would get to it! Thanks!
@nathanchaffin6380
@nathanchaffin6380 8 ай бұрын
This is good stuff boys. Seriously good stuff.
@ShudderingSeagull
@ShudderingSeagull 8 ай бұрын
When I first read it I thought that the kid at the end was the kid Frank didn't kill at the compound and that's why the priestess wanted him, like an dark fuck you to Frank.
@TheClitCommander530
@TheClitCommander530 8 ай бұрын
Whenever I see the Puisher logo on the back of a lifted pick-up truck, I always sarcastically say, "this guy must be a huge Punisher fan. I wonder what his favorite run is?"
@Peecamarke
@Peecamarke 8 ай бұрын
Great vid guys! 👍🏿
@Thehotdogman
@Thehotdogman 8 ай бұрын
Didn't care for this particular run myself but always down to watch your recaps!
@benreilly4347
@benreilly4347 8 ай бұрын
There is a scene in this book that is absolutely devastating to me. Frank gets into bed with Maria one night, when he's actually trying to open up, and she says something like"he tried to tell me about something that happened when he was 10 years old but he couldn't get the words out". Like Frank was so close to opening up and maybe healing just a little and he couldn't do it. It's honestly heart wrenching to me.
@quackmaster1014
@quackmaster1014 8 ай бұрын
Loved this book, great story.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 8 ай бұрын
As someone who never cared for the punisher, this run might be for me.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 8 ай бұрын
I agree. That’s why I wished Superman was a rapist ( I’m not a fan of Superman and I want a comic written for me)
@cjhall4406
@cjhall4406 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting all day for this. Bigg ups 🤓
@thewilhelmscream7912
@thewilhelmscream7912 8 ай бұрын
I like the idea, but not enough to pick it up, but I do enjoy your videos of it haha, now do BATMAN OFF WORLD!!!!!!!
@benreilly4347
@benreilly4347 8 ай бұрын
I think Ares wearing Punisher's old symbol is symbolic of all the people stealing it to use it for hateful/violent purposes - the logo is "stolen" by Ares representing "senseless violence"
@salvatoreocello
@salvatoreocello 8 ай бұрын
33:00 VINCE VAUGHN PSYCHO REFERENCE OKAY ✅
@robertcorr6971
@robertcorr6971 8 ай бұрын
Love seeing love for this story. It's always good to see the modern hits get love here.
@Gronmin
@Gronmin 8 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to this episode since the last one, the first part was so interesting and weird but I couldn't ruin the back issues for myself by reading it first
@williamhall3933
@williamhall3933 8 ай бұрын
I love the punisher episodes sm. Notifications on
@TheRealJameson505
@TheRealJameson505 8 ай бұрын
I'm sooo excited to hear you finish this! 🎉
@venomabsolute5807
@venomabsolute5807 8 ай бұрын
Finally we come back to the Tales of Frank
@lucyinchat
@lucyinchat 8 ай бұрын
I loved this book! It’s so good, I read the first volume right after you covered it, on a now dead comic book platform. I’ll look for the second volume later.
@thedukeofchutney468
@thedukeofchutney468 8 ай бұрын
I did not think that thee would be a sequel to the previous episode but I am SO happy there is.
@louurich9087
@louurich9087 8 ай бұрын
The series makes perfect sense. According to Gerry Conway, Punisher was based on Men's adventure character Mack Bolan,Executioner. Logically, the 21st century lens would draw more from the likes of Dexter, which was about a serial killer who kills evil people for his one reasons, but admits to not being able to feel connected to people.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 4 ай бұрын
I mean max already did this but provided far more nuance
@louurich9087
@louurich9087 4 ай бұрын
@@paulakroy2635 Sure. However, it becomes somewhat complicated in the reasoning as to why, and the importance of an American writing it. Garth Ennis grew up in Northern Ireland during "The Troubles," which likely effected his view on superheroes (people in endless war with claims to higher purpose), but also the nature of what drives a person to react in such extremes, and not be a sympathetic. Having the IRA detonating bombs in the name of a "righteous cause" would not make him very sympathetic to just a war on crime. However, and American writer would not have those experiences, and shows a similar realization, without the personal baggage.
@marcushamner5994
@marcushamner5994 8 ай бұрын
You guys are my go-to channel for comic books! Ralph Lundgren, Thomas Jane, Ray Stevenson and Jon Bernthal are my favorite actors to have played the Punisher. You guys should cover “E For Extinction” and “Operation: Zero Tolerance” since X-Men ‘97 is at the 3 part season finale.😊🤓👊🏾💙
@marcushamner5994
@marcushamner5994 8 ай бұрын
@@marcespinoza6068 I was going to mention Ray too because he’s my favorite actor LOL. I miss Ray. I was heartbroken when I heard he passed away months ago. He was amazing in Ashoka too. I would never leave him out.
@FakeItWithMe
@FakeItWithMe 8 ай бұрын
Look at me Matt!!! I CANT!!! Frank!
@nerdpocalypse5004
@nerdpocalypse5004 8 ай бұрын
I love this book but I can get why people are mad about the divorce thing since we just saw the moments before the Castles died in Cosmic Ghost Rider and they seemed happy
@comicpop
@comicpop 8 ай бұрын
Alternate reality
@nerdpocalypse5004
@nerdpocalypse5004 8 ай бұрын
@@comicpop Don't get me wrong I infinitely prefer this "new"(being 2 years old) staus quo for The Punisher than what they've been doing with him but with "Cosmic Ghost Rider Destroys Marvel History" I felt that the premise was that Frank messed with 616 and then Uatu put everything right so that was for all intents and purposes the 616 Castles but I guess with all the futzing in time CGR did would have naturally created butterfly effects that cluld have somehow created a more stable Frank...So I guess defense withdrawn
@jameskingman1227
@jameskingman1227 8 ай бұрын
I really like this because it doesn’t glorify the Punisher, there are too many people out there that think the Punisher is right lol
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 8 ай бұрын
@@jameskingman1227people should be able to intuitive that killing people is wrong. You know what comic deconstructions that, literally every single superhero comic. The thing that makes the punisher is that despite being a psychopathic seriel killer is that he’s never killed anyone who doesn’t deserve it
@plutotheoverseer4213
@plutotheoverseer4213 8 ай бұрын
I was just yesterday rewatching the previous punisher back issues episode wondering when the they would cover the rest of the run
@nategrey4693
@nategrey4693 8 ай бұрын
the sequel to one of my fave episodes needs more views ngl
@captaincomics3626
@captaincomics3626 8 ай бұрын
I dug this new spin on the punisher. It's definitely a fun, dope, and interesting ride. The jokes always get me.
@Pugging
@Pugging 8 ай бұрын
I wanted you guys to do Welcome Back Frank so bad, oh well
@Depthcharge2030
@Depthcharge2030 8 ай бұрын
In Aaron's MAX run it involved a revelation that Frank had taken his family to the park so he could talk to Maria about divorce, in this instance continuity story Aaron has Maria divorce Frank. Something, something symmetry.
@gordondawson-tibbits1657
@gordondawson-tibbits1657 8 ай бұрын
Hot dang! I was hoping this was going to be the book this week based off of the short posted yesterday. Been looking forward to hearing your thoughts since I read this book.
@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt
@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt 8 ай бұрын
What if...? Maria leaves, finds someone new, has a kid and they are killed. Maria then is like, oh I get it now and we get lady punisher?
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 4 ай бұрын
There already is Rachel and she’s the goat
@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt
@ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt 4 ай бұрын
@@paulakroy2635 of course they did
@JohnClark-tt2bl
@JohnClark-tt2bl 8 ай бұрын
What would Frank's nickname be if he were an interior decorator? The Furnisher.
@FirstNameLastName-fe2tu
@FirstNameLastName-fe2tu 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the reactionship between Frank and his Wife was more interesting than the rest of this series for me. Like fuck the ninja shit, let me see how this marriage falls apart between this soldier and this woman.
@RedAnArticle
@RedAnArticle 8 ай бұрын
There's also the end of Greg Rucka's run, where the Avengers take down Punisher and puts him in a super-prison at the bottom of lake michigan with absolutely no way out (also a really awesome story worth checking out) and then he's just back out on whatever his next book was (didn't read it so not sure if they even bothered to try and explain it). Oh, and coincident;y to you thinking about Maria becomeing Lady Punisher, Rucka's run is all about him meeting a lady marine who lost her family just like he did, and her taking up his mission once he's in jail. I don't think she ever shows up again either...
@vitanpatel2061
@vitanpatel2061 8 ай бұрын
Awesome episode!
@Peaceblank
@Peaceblank 8 ай бұрын
As a punisher fan I hate this run, simply for the character changes and retcons. This isn't the punisher from the main universe, it's the punisher from Aaron's Max run. Like right off the bat he got it wrong with bringing back Maria and that being what mollifies Frank. We've seen a villain do that before, the hood brought back not just Maria and also his kids, and he burned them, saying they aren't his family. I was willing to overlook this though if the rest of the story was good but it wasn't cause he kept making these kinds of changes. Also as a punisher fan, I actually really like moments where Frank has to deal with the greater Marvel universe, he knows he's outmatched, so he purposefully goes about his methods to either avoid them or has backup plans to get out. Like after he shot at Norman but failed thanks to the sentry, he knew he only had one chance, so he purposely had the backup plan of a bomb in a hospital to get Sentry off him. Or another in the Knights run, he comes across these Trolls under Manhattan, knows he absolutely can't handle that, so he tries and gets daredevil and crew who have been hunting him to go after them, there's even a fun part of it where he runs into an ongoing Fantastic Four adventure where's he way outclassed. Matt Fractions run on punisher has even more great examples of Frank just dealing with the small side of a bunch of big hero events.
@sevensvn5391
@sevensvn5391 8 ай бұрын
Beyond the bringing Maria back thing, what character changes and retcons are you referring to, and what issue do you have with them specifically?
@Peaceblank
@Peaceblank 8 ай бұрын
@sevensvn5391 So to start off, Frank as a kid, Aaron decided to change him entirely. Granted there wasn't much we'd seen before, but what we did see was completely opposite. Aaron makes it out like Frank is this school shooter kid that just happens to have some kind of morals, or at least in so far as they justify him beating the shit out of people, with him protecting the nerd. In the main universe he's just a kid, he was forceful and physical, but a pretty normal kid. Even Garth Ennis doesn't make him a murderer as a kid. He makes him quiet, reserved, well read, with a staunch sense of right and wrong. He wasn't just waiting for the day he could kill someone, he is pushed into it as the only option because all other paths have failed. Even then in Ennis' run he doesn't kill the guy who caused his friend to commit suicide, and he certainly didn't have some elaborate plan, he was just a kid with his father's gun, we don't even know if he could have gone through with it cause her brother kills him instead. But what it really boils down to, is that with this kid version of Frank, is that while he could certainly grow up to be Aaron's version of him, he couldn't grow up to be the main universe version. Aaron's Frank isn't going to be reading political philosophy books, like how Frank has been depicted, one in particular I remember being Listen, Little Man! by Wilhelm Reich. He's not going to name a snake murgatroyd, which he picked up as part of a plan in Punisher G Force. And he'd definitely never send a bunch of vintage records to his former sidekick Henry Russo as part of an anonymous birthday present. You can see this further with him during the war in the main universe. Now its been a while so I may be getting slight details wrong, but there's a story where he is in a group that is purposefully led to death so that the commanding officer can use their bodies to smuggle drugs back to the US. He manages to survive but due to rank and corruption, the officer gets away with it. Frank has to stop him himself. We can see this again in Punisher Year One, where Frank goes through not only the normal channels but also through the press, trying to get justice for his family, but when both of those fail, that's when he realizes that the only way for anything to happen is if he does it himself. He is doing these things out of a sense of right and wrong first and if he gets any enjoyment out of it, that's secondary. Meanwhile Aaron changes it so that the enjoyment is first and justice is just the excuse Frank tells himself. It's these very rigid morals that make Frank what he is, not just a love for killing. The loss of his family and that grief pushes him to seek justice for their murder, and its then being pushed into other means to achieve justice that molds him into the punisher. Its because of his love for them that pushes him so far in seeking justice. Meanwhile Aaron makes them some kind of obstacle to him becoming his true form of the punisher. He literally did it back in his Max run, pulling the exact stupid move of, oooo the big secret is he wanted a divorce all along ooooo and he uses their death as an excuse to go on a killing spree. No, that's not Frank's character. Frank does it because he's sees it as the only true effective way for these kinds of criminals to be stopped, is that correct or logical no, but it doesn't have to be, it's what he believes, and character motivations don't have to be logical. Hey if you read all that I appreciate it, I know it's alot.
@vicentegeonix
@vicentegeonix 8 ай бұрын
​@@Peaceblankdude you are amazing, you explained the character in such an amazing way.
@Peaceblank
@Peaceblank 8 ай бұрын
@@vicentegeonix Thanks! I have very strong opinions on certain comic stuff and it's always fun to write it out. So I'm glad someone is enjoying reading it!
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 4 ай бұрын
@@Peaceblanktyger is such an amazing contrast to this
@benreilly4347
@benreilly4347 8 ай бұрын
This was such a somber, yet absolutely wild story.
@YouCalledForTheDoc
@YouCalledForTheDoc 8 ай бұрын
I would love a Punisher Max back issues. Welcome Back Frank. Or hell, one of the newer minis.
@SeelkadoomandJokic00
@SeelkadoomandJokic00 8 ай бұрын
Tiffany has indeed not done Magic Bullets ..... she should do it
@vitanpatel2061
@vitanpatel2061 8 ай бұрын
Waiting for a deluxe of this now!
@seand7042
@seand7042 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@WhatIsItAboutThem
@WhatIsItAboutThem 8 ай бұрын
50:22 -- Sal I appreciate your reference
@leviwyatt09
@leviwyatt09 8 ай бұрын
I was a little taken back when Daredevil was discussing the Punisher with Wolverine. Shouldn't Matt have the same problems with Logan as he does with Frank?
@JosephRockford
@JosephRockford 8 ай бұрын
No because wolverine doesn’t senselessly murder, Frank kills out of enjoyment
@vicentegeonix
@vicentegeonix 8 ай бұрын
​​@@JosephRockfordwolverine is still a murderer though, doesn't matter if he likes it, or not.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 4 ай бұрын
@@JosephRockforddoes daredevil even know this or anyone know Frank’s true motivation. Also Frank doesn’t extactly kill only because he enjoys it
@phillanderson434
@phillanderson434 8 ай бұрын
When it wraps up or starts to go into trade you should do the current Pepose run.
@THE_Dodge_Morningstar
@THE_Dodge_Morningstar 8 ай бұрын
😁I love this story. I _LOVE_ Punisher, just not in that weird, power fantasy way. I know he’s a piece of crap, so it was one of the rare times I felt “Someone wrote this just for me.” Great episode.
@Darkon2050
@Darkon2050 8 ай бұрын
See I have mixed feelings on this. I think this works better in a different reality or out of canon material, because I like the stories where Frank is written as a sympathetic character. But that said he hasn’t been written that way in a long time. Every writer just wants to write him as more and more and more of a psychopath who never really did this for his family. For that version of Frank this is great. To me personally though Cosmic Ghost Rider is just the perfect evolution of Frank Castle, and this Frank and that one don’t feel like the same person to me which turns me off a bit.
@thesavageJ
@thesavageJ 8 ай бұрын
This is why Jon Bernthal as Frank Castle is perfect cause he plays the Punisher like a the psycho he is
@Jake_E57
@Jake_E57 4 ай бұрын
People don't like this run because Jason Aaron ignores who Frank Castle is and you guys seem to not understand either. It's never been he's cool to watch and he's psycho, that's a complete misunderstanding. A crazy Frank Castle that murders people as a kid is a psycho is a problem. Punisher is an anti-hero, not a villain. He's a bad guy and he's always known it. It's been a long established that 616 Frank wasn't always a crazy psychopath, it's been a downward slide. It's easy to ignore that slide and try to portray Frank Castle as a run of the mill crazy person and make him a way less interesting character, but in order to do that you have to completely misunderstand both the character and his appeal from the beginning. People didn't love the Punisher and he didn't warrant so many series over the years because he was a crazy slasher character. He faced an intense personal trauma that people can identify with after having personally witnessed the absolute worst in humanity and it's hardened him and set him on the path he takes, he's not a crazy psychopath from berth just looking for and excuse to murder.
@comicpop
@comicpop 4 ай бұрын
lol
@Mysmarttelevision1989
@Mysmarttelevision1989 8 ай бұрын
Yes please have Tiffany do Magic Bullets.
@qliphalpuzzle5453
@qliphalpuzzle5453 8 ай бұрын
I’ve got no words
@comicpop
@comicpop 8 ай бұрын
And yet I must comment.
@eqs1782
@eqs1782 8 ай бұрын
now i need to get this.
@ortziri1225
@ortziri1225 8 ай бұрын
the end in kinda remind me of the punisher and conan comic part of savage avenger. draging his family coffins, speaking of krom with the barbarian. myea, going to DnD world not that bad of an idea
@hyaena23
@hyaena23 8 ай бұрын
I came back to say this episode was great ant that it's really sad to hear that this episode was "controversial," but it is pretty funny that they actually confirm in real time the commentary of them being professionally outrage xd. Love you guys and keep on the great work ❤
@KiramidHead
@KiramidHead 8 ай бұрын
There's also the completely forgotten John Ostrander run where Frank joins a low level mob family, kind of sort of begins to reevaluate his views. Then after eleven issues there's a random Onslaught tie in and it turns into a glorified X-Men spinoff for five issues. 🤣
@jakehornsby10
@jakehornsby10 8 ай бұрын
This is my go to KZbin channel and it’s never on my recommended, never get notifications of videos (I see it on twitter( and sometimes I don’t even have it on my subscriber feed only this channel it’s so weird
@eduardoflores1503
@eduardoflores1503 8 ай бұрын
Surprised in all of Franks history, Mistress Death has never been brought up, the litteral representation of death. Ares may claim hes Franks god, but I say otherwise.
@TheTheDontae
@TheTheDontae 8 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet but I really loved this run of the punisher. I was surprised with how people on the internet were treating this run. Sometimes I think people forget that frank a monster he doesn’t get a happy ending.
@vicentegeonix
@vicentegeonix 8 ай бұрын
Why is he a monster? Because he kill bad people?
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 4 ай бұрын
I mean he’s a monster but I mean the retcon where insane
@JLD22591
@JLD22591 8 ай бұрын
Apparently this episode made some people upset? But I loved every minute of it. Thanks for a great episode guys!
@bowmancollar3684
@bowmancollar3684 8 ай бұрын
The Punisher is kind of like the gang from "Always Sunny". You don't root for them, but you enjoy the "hijinks" they get up to.
@JoeChillton
@JoeChillton 8 ай бұрын
Seinfeld too in a way.
@ThegreattblattHope
@ThegreattblattHope 8 ай бұрын
This sounds amazing!
@thenoob_artist0586
@thenoob_artist0586 8 ай бұрын
Hey comic pop possible to see future video that tackle first appearance of Mr. Sinister???
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 8 ай бұрын
It seems like they just wanted to destroy the character, because some people they disliked embraced him.
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 8 ай бұрын
But if other people enjoyed it, I’m happy for them.
@mikhaelgribkov4117
@mikhaelgribkov4117 8 ай бұрын
A thing with Frank is that even Garent Ennis run plays into question in how sociopathic he is and if he was always destined being murder machine.
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 8 ай бұрын
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Some people have, but he was originally played much more sympathetically. Also, Jason Aaron admitted that they were doing this because of his fan base.
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