Frankel is flawless in 2012 Juddmonte International Stakes

[@goonervillegonad3662]

Good lord.... Thank you Sir Henry for handling this beast the way you did, and RIP you genius. Never forgotten.

[@tallest5396]

Goonerville Gonad Well said. 👏

[@kenflay5719]

We are unlikely to see another like Frankel, he is a freak of nature and a TRUE legend. In the Juddmonte he made very good horses look like class 6 no-hopers. He was trotting at the 3F marker and just cruised past them like he was in a training gallop. The reason why this horse is a legend is because of his consistency and truly staggering method oh his victories. No one has ever seen a horse do what he did in the 2000 Guineas. Genius horse, genius trainer...breathtaking!!!

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[@Robhalifax]

Cecil said Frankel is the best horse he had ever SEEN, not just trained. Thats good enough for me.

[@bowlchamps37]

Well, he is obviously very biased having had such an emotional connection to him. It´s like asking a Barca or Real Madrid player to choose between Messi and Ronaldo.

[@miffsky]

@@underscore2824 What does that have to do with Frankel?

[@iang-lb7nx]

@@bowlchamps37 but Frankel is Messi?

[@bowlchamps37]

@@iang-lb7nx Yeah, I would say so. I would compare Frankel to Messi and Sea The Stars to Ronaldo.

[@craigpope8580]

And me

[@robmatijevich8910]

"Queally shakes the reins, the response is immediate." "This perfect mix of poetry and destruction". This guy can call a horse race. Starts calm and collected, revs his vocal chords with a few furlongs left, and reaches an absolute crescendo approaching the wire. A fitting call for a true Champion!

[@mrvillan6951]

If you think this was good, listen to Ian Bartlett's commentary on Frankel's 2000 Guineas. He goes from surprise, to bemusement, to amazement, to awe, then respect and finally admiration.

[@scouserdan3]

Amazingly commentated! The best I heared was sea the stars l'arc de triomphe victory the commentary was unreal!

[@chrisbenson2264]

Mr Villan

[@Happyheretic2308]

Reins, not reigns!!

[@MarkHewitt]

To me the ITV coverage on the race had the greatest line of horse racing commentary ever: "...And they can't get him off the bridle".

[@katewild2194]

This was the race where I knew I had just seen one of the greatest race horses of all time.

[@gazowen7310]

Didn't realise shergar mill reef were in this

[@Morro19922]

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[@Nautilus1972]

I knew that the first time I watched the Guineas.

[@jamieharris7108]

We have never seen or will ever see a horse destroy group 1 performer after group 1 performer in such effortless fashion as frankel. 2 years on and this is just as breathtaking.

[@elgransenor1472]

Just a few years later we have Winx destroying those great legends of the turf, Hartnell, Happy Clapper, Humidor, Folkswood, Criterion, Gailo Chop, Blackheart Bart, Success Days... The list goes on.

[@SumoCumLoudly]

This would have been a very decent Juddmonte without Frankel in the race, two rock solid G1 horses in St Nicholas Abbey and Farhh, pulling well clear of Twice Over. The fact that Frankel cantered all over them like they were selling platers and then just breezed away from them hands and heels is quite remarkable. This is not a normal animal, a true freak of nature, the biggest freak probably since Secretariat.

[@rob9999i]

Well said, perfect summary!

[@rsb7311]

On that evidence I'm sure he would of stayed a mile and a half

[@JuiCeh93]

@@rsb7311 as a 4 year old his temperament was different, he would’ve won an Arc at 4 I’ve absolutely no doubt about it, I just don’t think he would’ve got the trip as a 3 year old.

[@tedduckpond5132]

I was there, took my son and my dad. When I’m in the ground my boy will be able to tell his kids that 3 generations of us saw something special.

[@ijazmoh9545]

We are all fortunate to have witnessed the greatest racehorse ever.I honestly dont believe we'll ever see one of his likes again.

[@tigerboy1966]

***** They didn't say anything of the sort about Sir Ivor, because he was annihilated by a horse called Vaguely Noble in the Arc. People forget,

[@robertmclachlan5669]

You never seen Winx?

[@Grxyzar]

Introducing Enable

[@rob9999i]

@Robert, yes I have, many times. Wouldn’t even beat St Nicholas Abbey. She was only rated around 130, doesn’t even register on all time great lists and very rightly so

[@paulnewman3282]

I've been racing for 50 years ..this horse is an equine freak ..pure 100% poetry in motion ..a joy to watch ..never ever in my lifetime be another like him..maybe a projeny of frankl himself ..who knows but all I do know this is is the best racehorse ever

[@camouflage873]

That's one of the most impressive performances by a racehorse ever,making Farrh look like a grade 6 handicapper

[@samsparrow4206]

St Nicholas Abbey too

[@russe19642]

Cause most were only class 6 horses anywhere else in the world

[@joshuaharper4340]

@@russe19642 st Nicholas abbey won the breeders cup turf lol

[@russe19642]

@@joshuaharper4340 and,guys don't lol either Did you see abbydd over weekend down here,I was on him 4/1. We haven't got much running around at the moment great,most sent to stud

[@joshuaharper4340]

@@russe19642 Yeah but Europe breeds these middle distance horses and Australia nowhere else can compete right now. But Frankel could turn out to be the most successful sire in the history of racing. He’s already the most successful at this stage of his stud life.

[@1213prettynpink]

(this poster's father) ; I was there that day, was the second time ( after the previouis season's champions day) that i saw him in the flesh, and it was the most gob-smacking performance ive ever seen in my life. Standing atop the county stand with thousands of other genuine racing enthusiasts, to a man the hair stood up on the backs of our necks, and our jaws dropped as one. I'll never forget that day. Thank you York, and thank you to the patrons of York Racecourse. The Ascot of the north? I think Ascot could do no worse than tout itself as the York of the south.

[@Megavector2022]

Me too. My home town racecourse, still got the 'Go Frankel' paddle. The atmosphere at the races that day was amazing. Remember it as if it was yesterday.

[@Peter-ix1ym]

I was there I could of been stood next to you. I remember that time stood still and everything that mattered in my life mattered little. Afterwards I remember thinking that I was there and that’s all that mattered. I was always meant to be in that stand that day. I can always say I saw the greatest horse ever

[@ThefightingCelt]

For me, this is Frankel's best performance. This was the race where the great Brigadier Gerard met his one and only defeat in 18 races. Frankel was racing at just over a mile and a quarter for the first time, going left handed for the first and only time, and still he beat top class Group 1 middle distance horses with contemptuous ease.

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[@littleonions]

Rip sir henry, I was here on that day of frankels last run, without doubt the greatest of all time, speed, control, class, power, and quealy a true craftsman. The greatest racehorse in the world, and without doubt the greatest 'gentleman' in racing sir henry. Never forgotten, never replaced, god bless you sir henry, a true gent.

[@slide_drexler]

How can Frankel be "the greatest racehorse in the world" when his connections didnt even consider him for The Derby or The Arc?

[@SuperBuster3000]

@@slide_drexler if he’s not going to stay the trip what’s the point? The distance of the race means nothing when taking about ability

[@slide_drexler]

@@SuperBuster3000 the great athletes became great by winning something that is very prestigious.In Thoroughbred Horse Racing, The Derby and The Arc are the two most prestigious and coveted prizes a Thoroughbred Race Horse connections aim for. Frankel was one of the best Milers ever but he is not "The Greatest Ever" as proclaimed by his worshippers.

[@flamingfrancis]

@@slide_drexler The race commentator here has Frankel "the undisputed champion of the World"...strange call given he only raced in one nation and 14 times...

[@MegaVector2011]

In this race the class acts were St Nicholas, and Faarh challenging Frankel. St.Nicholas was a superstar, cantering but overtaken by the mighty Frankel

[@mikemclaren7753]

Farhhhhhh

[@jamesrichardson3500]

I was there that day.....he'd have won an Arc and a Derby, he was that good. There'll never be another like him.

[@jamesrichardson3500]

The extra 2 furlongs wouldn't have stopped him. He was going away here it was visible on course

[@lordfarquard9902]

Enable would have battered Frankel in the Arc and I fucking adore Frankel. He wasn’t making 1 mile 4 easily. Yes I know Enable is slightly after Frankel but still, keep in your lane I say!

[@jamesrichardson3500]

@@lordfarquard9902 they said he was vulnerable over 1m2 that day and it wasnt fast ground as there had been a lot of rain that week. I think he would have made 1m4 easy, he needed a pace maker over a mile because he wanted to stretch other's stamina. It's all opinions and ours differ

[@lordfarquard9902]

@@jeanlawley6483 I can’t believe Frankel doesn’t have a time track record. Blows my mind. Winx has every track record imaginable and yet Frankel is still considered. Secretariats records still stand 50 years later. Frankel has 0 records.

[@delegator001]

brings tears to my eyes . enough said.

[@fadzilayub6657]

Based on what st nic & farhh accomplished , his accomplishments in the mile races Frankel deserves his best in the world rating.

[@postcardterry]

+fadzil Ayub Well said Fadzil ! The late great St Nick, Farhh , Excelebration, Canford Cliffs, Nathaniel(on debut) and ,of course , the mighty Cirrus Des Aigles too ! Record winning margins , record starting prices ,14 races and 14 times fav (13 at odds on) , and 14 victories !

[@youtubecj715]

Had the pleasure of meeting Frankel when he was still racing. He's extraordinary. He's a horse with an amazing personality. He is very aware of who he is and what he does. I can only compare him to Ali. A mix of confidence with ability and a certain amount of justified arrogance, yet surprisingly friendly. You don't normally get too close to these stallions, but he had a very nice nature about him. His body language (which is the main form of communication for horses) is a case study for any expert. Very talkative, very dominant. An incredibly intelligent horse and I'm glad to say a very happy and content horse.

[@Flightwithoutwings]

The eye and brain can't keep up with the exceleration of that amazing horse. He's a freak of nature, a very good freak of nature at that. We have been blessed to see such a horse and l doubt we will see another like him in our lifetime.

[@flamingfrancis]

He certainly did EXCEL but you are referring to his acceleration.

[@thebrasenose]

Frankel had the best of both worlds - born genius AND brilliant training - physical, behavioral and tactical.... incidentally my favourite Frankel KZbin video is a 30-second hand-held video by some Yorkshire geezer at the side of the course here in York. Enter "FRANKEL!!! 13 out of 13 wins"... it really conveys a sense of Frankel's astonishing superiority and raw power, and the jaw-dropping effect this Beast had on the crowds lucky enough to see him at first hand...

[@rickydominy9284]

This was one of my favorite race calls of all time.

[@csracingreport2024]

Who's the RACE CALLER; Sounds a bit like SIMON HOLT, but I'm not 100 % sure it's him ; Would greatly appreciate the info 4 accuracy on CREDITS upon completion of Part 2 of a UK Superstars Video Series

[@myfrobert]

@@csracingreport2024 Stewart Machin.

[@postcardterry]

Congratulations to the mighty Frankel on the victory of his son ; Cuncu who won cosily at Newbury ! That is 1/1 for the greatest racehorse of the modern era ! It is impossible to know how good the form is but it is, at least, comforting to see that the winner of this particular race last year was the classy King Of Rooks.

[@wayevs]

This is still frankels most impressive performance the way he destroyed Faahh and. St nic was unbelievable he made them look like group 3 horses,, when frankel retired I backed Faahh in every race the following season and he never let me down it just goes to show how good frankel was

[@roberthartley6629]

Wayne Evans I totally disagree. He made them look like Group 1 horses. It is simple. He is just so much better than really good group one horses :-)

[@garyoptica]

+Robert Hartley he ran faster and ten times more convincing than Golden horn at the same race and its a shame he never got a crack at 12 furlongs.

[@earp61able]

Dancing Braves performance in the Arc was probably the most breath taking middle distance performance in the history of turf racing. The cameras were focused on Bering and a flash of equine brilliance just came into view and shot past. But being a believer he was the best horse over the last thirty odd years i cannot envisage a greater example of perfection than that shown by Frankel not once but twice. First in the Guiness and then in the Queen Anne. Jaw dropping. We have been blessed .

[@postcardterry]

0.6 seconds inside standard without breaking sweat and seven lengths ahead of truly wonderful horse Farrh and a wide margin Breeders Cup World Champ; St Nick! A truly great racehorse !

[@john131349]

and he had travelled a bit further by moving across to the far rail

[@russe19642]

Did he break the track and race record?

[@postcardterry]

@@russe19642 Yes, his Queen Anne time was the best ever seen at Ascot over a mile. It would have been even faster on firm ground but the fans of U.K. horseracing, and the authorities, do not want to see firm ground. That is why we water.

[@oneman4180]

you know when you see a special horse and he was just the best ever.

[@leesog3203]

The greatest performance seen on a racecourse...? Only a handful can be compared to this.. Ribot's Arc.. Sea Birds Arc and Derby.. Secretariat's Derby and Belmont.. The form of this race was unbelievable.. No horse cruises past Farhh (Timeform 133) and St Nicholas Abbey (Timeform130) like that - they where champions.. The scary thing about Frankel is we may never have seen the best of him - he beat Farhh by a length further over 10.5f, than a mile - and with extraordinary ease - you can only imagine how incredible he'd be over 12f - He may have been the first horse to break 150+ with Timeform.

[@leedelaney70]

Frankel was a super horse, a champion, but I doubt his opposition at a mile. I'll debate best ever all day long but he can only race who's put in front of him so I having nothing but admiration for Frankel. Excelebration was vastly overrated by Timeform. One should never quote Timeform's ratings with any degree of certainty. Farhh 133 ? Seriously ? So You Think gave him a hiding doing far more work in the run a cruising through the line.. Battaash given the same rating as the career unbeaten 15 times Group 1 winner Black Caviar lol lol. Battaash has won a single Group 1 and has been beaten 3 of his last 5. Must be some all time great sprinters in Europe if Black Caviar's equal is getting regularly beaten. Funny how Australian 3yo Merchant Navy goes there and beats them both times he runs and July Cup winner U S Navy Flag goes to Australia and is thrashed in all 3 races he runs in. Oh yeah but Timeform just say he didn't run his best and Merchant Navy magically found 3 or 4 lengths......

[@cmrcz7550]

I agree, probably the greatest performance ever. To cruise past and destroy such classy horses, is just scary.

[@protarget1]

@AnotherFasnet70 The simple fact is that every handicapping or rating bodies around the world, have Frankel their highest rated flat racehorse in their history. TF has Frankel 147. Every horse that had a TF of 140 or above only achieved it once in their racing career Here's Frankel's last TF ratings Judd Down. 140: 142:136:147:144:143:140. The IFHA World rankings is the same Every horse that was rated 135 and above did that only once. Frankel's ran 135+ 6 times including 2 140's The horses he beat back up that form.

[@postcardterry]

Following on from Frankel`s first 2yo winner on Friday, Hugo Palmer has a colt ; MAJORIS who is working beautifully and will be ready to run very soon - possibly Newbury next week. He has a big white face and his likely target is the Chesham at Royal Ascot later. What excites me about this particular colt is that his mother has delivered the blood of mighty Miesque ! The best mare I have ever seen ! This year is going to be great !!

[@edkaley1]

Frankel is probably the best thoroughbred we have ever seen.in the UK bar none - Secretariat probably the best in the USA. Black Caviar is a sprinter and would never ever get competitive over 7f or 8f against these - she would struggle against Dayjur and a few others

[@MegaVector2011]

ed kaley And either of the Powers Sole or Slade.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

ed kaley You could argue that Frankel's the greatest racehorse the world has ever seen. He's certainly the most valuable stallion ever.

[@postcardterry]

Sloth from The Goonies Strictly speaking, that is only true because of Frankel`s age. I doubt he would cost more than Galileo or Dubawi but both of those are only available privately or by prior agreement with the owners. Frankel ,unfortunately, is highly unlikely to ever produce one as good as himself because so called "superhorses" never do.

[@postcardterry]

Sloth from The Goonies Strictly speaking, that is only true because of Frankel`s age. I doubt he would cost more than Galileo or Dubawi but both of those are only available privately or by prior agreement with the owners. Frankel ,unfortunately, is highly unlikely to ever produce one as good as himself because so called "superhorses" never do.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

postcardterry Even if his offspring turn out to be half as good as him, they'd still be damn fine racehorses.

[@333DAVYBOY]

You can compare all the American, European and Australian horses to the mighty Frankel but in the modern era did anyone of the horses you compare him to absolutely destroy everything from 6f to 1m 2f he faced for 3 yrs running without defeat . Respect to black caviar but it was nearly always the same distance against a lot of the same horses

[@333DAVYBOY]

***** You've done what everyone does when comparing a horse to Frankel,you remember the great runs but then make excuses for the bad ones. Heres another reason why he was the best, because he didn't need excuses he NEVER lost.

[@tigerboy1966]

***** Frankel would have annihilated Secretariat over a mile or ten furlongs. Can't be sure about 12 furlongs as Frankel never ran over the distance. In a perfect world, Sec would have gone to Europe in 1974 and won the King George and the Arc, thus proving his greatness. Ah well...

[@tigerboy1966]

***** btw I don't buy the excuses. If Sec was unfit or sick why the f*ck did they run him? He was one of the best horses ever, but he had some off days. No problem with that,

[@brubakerman8717]

***** Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Frankel = class

[@brubakerman8717]

***** Pure class a world beater, not much you can say, I know, your speechless.

[@fckem1000]

Toughest test at odds of 1/10

[@thebrasenose]

Both DB and Frankel were true greats who ran in different ways. In assessing the 3 races (Frankel's 140 Q Anne/Juddmonte; DB's 138 Arc) the IFHA didn't just rate for winning distance, but added more because of how the horse was travelling. DB had blinding pace at the death, Frankel was barely off the bridle as if he had more to give. Therein lies my doubt. Frankel never showed himself capable of a second surge after his initial acceleration - so I think the IFHA have gone over the top with 140.

[@ASupremeOwl]

The greatest

[@jazmeenkhan9330]

this horse has won more race than he been whip in his career

[@katewild2194]

I have been racing for getting on for sixty years and for most of that time a pro punter I have seen all the great horses run in that time and I can tell you Frankel is the best I have seen the only other horse that I could compare with him was Sea Bird.

[@connorduke4619]

+Kate Wild Indeed, and from a more global perspective the greatest horse since Secretariat.

[@postcardterry]

+Kate Wild well said Kate for a frank clear appraisal ! He was very very special ! All he needs to do now is produce one like himself and we can relive those times. David Ashforth has written about the subject and stated that super horses never produce super horses so we must live in hope !

[@katewild2194]

I would also like to mention Vaguely Noble and Busted.

[@connorduke4619]

+postcardterry Man O War produced War Admiral - both super horses.

[@postcardterry]

Don`t confuse "great horse" with "superhorse" ! He meant horses regarded as well above the average top class horse. All horses are super/great in the opinion of many observers. Superhorse is quite different ! Frankel ,Secretariat, Shergar and Arazi are the ones that we hear repeatedly in England,and before the modern era ;Ribot and Sea Bird II. Secretariat certainly was not a superhorse because he got beaten far too often! Arazi is similar to Secretariat in that he did something extraordinary at Breeders Cup once. None have improved their reputations at stud although poor Shergar was executed by the IRA ,but did produce a lovely filly ;Maysoon, in his first crop of 3year olds ,and she was placed in 1,000 Guineas. I don`t know enough about the two you have mentioned but with solid English pedigrees dating back to great Derby winners such as St Simon(1883) in England, it is possible. However, American racing is too much about blinds, blinkers and Lasix to be taken seriously ! It is also not that good at winning Breeders Cup races where again this year, we saw Europeans dominate the BC Turf. The death of Barbaro at three was a devastating blow for America because he did have the makings of a superstar as American Pharoah is ! Ban Lasix and you will be taken more seriously !

[@joebaco1112]

Watching frankel do what he did to St Nicholas abbey was simply breathtaking I'm 30 years old and ready know I won't ever see another like him again!

[@alanconvey7981]

best flat horse ever by a mile

[@kayjay9sl]

apart from brigadier gerard

[@silviamendoza6967]

Frankel would have destroyed Drosselmeyer and Fort Larnered on breeders cup day if..Woulda been a Great race if he came 2010 to face Blame Zenyatta and AMerican Pharoahs daddy Looking At Lucky.. Racing getting good with these New babies coming up!!!!

[@GBeret83]

Silvia Mendoza , Assuming he would've handled the switch from turf to conventional dirt? Some horses handle the switch without issue, but some horses who've raced exclusively on turf end up just spinning their wheels once they try racing on conventional dirt. A great example of that was Fame and Glory in the Breeders Cup Marathon. On paper, the best horse in the race by a street, but ended up as a DNF that day racing on conventional dirt. That being said, had Frankel raced in the Classic and had no issues with the surface switch I don't see the outcome having been anything much more than a foregone conclusion.

[@postcardterry]

+GBeret83 And why would Henry Cecil have ever thought about the Breeder`s Cup or dirt??? He cared about his horses so much that a trip to America was a non starter! Furthermore why should Britain`s greatest racehorse take on the U.S drug scene?? Would you want your beloved horse to race on anti bleeding medication or to not feel pain when injured?? Pain is the bodies warning system! The U.S. puts its Olympic athletes in jail if they take drugs(Marion Jones) but encourages its use in their thoroughbreds. We, in blighty, don`t want that! We want Frankel to live a long healthy life in retirement - red-rum-esque till he`s 30 at least !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@phdiers]

What a joy--I watch these replays when I need a lift.

[@postcardterry]

Hi,You talk about sectionals but Frankel could not be blamed even if the sectionals were bad because he was held up!He won this race,beating two very very good horses easily and he wasn't finished.After the race he was still headstrong and had not reached his maximum.His time at Ascot in 2012 was simply amazing and he is the yardstick.

[@roryfraser9210]

I was there. I was stood on the rail near the finish. It was a memorable day. The swagger of the horse as he hit the front and breezed home, it was a delight to watch. I've seen Sea The Stars and Frankel in the flesh, but Frankel bosses the comparison. What a brilliant horse.

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

Really? I hold Sea The Stars in higher regard after his Arc win. Both wonderful top top animals.

[@postcardterry]

That wanker has gone quiet since Sea The Stars won the Derby with his son ;Harzand . Strange that all the critics suggest these great horses are not very good and then their sons and daughters do the same. An Oaks winner, a Derby winner and the best German Derby winner of the decade from three seasons for STS and well done to him !

[@thebrasenose]

Wavepattern, the more you tell us about yourself the more we love you....today we learn that not only are you wealthy, a respected international ratings expert, the owner of a lucrative business, the author of numerous books and in negotiations for your own TV show... on top of all that you are also a magnificent lover!

[@grudeman]

It just doesn't get any better than this I remember watching it live in the gym of all places, I miss Frankel this is his best performance in my opinion he's the best horse to ever grace a racetrack.

[@johnwedgbury6817]

100% agreed. Best performance. St nic and Faarh made to look very average when they weren't at all. My favourite frankel performance.

[@quickfire3OOO]

I'm a huge Frankel fan. He's my favourite of all time and always will be. But I have to be honest now that he's retired. I'm very relieved he never faced Black Caviar over 6 furlongs because I never ever wanted Frankel to lose. It was unfair all that talk anyway because Frankel was a mile+ and Black Caviar a sprinter. Why can't people just celebrate them both as horses of our lifetime ?

[@makoceans]

everyone's entitled to their opinions but I doubt even the might Dayjur would've posed problems to Frankel over 5f let alone Black caviar over 6f. But hey I'm basing this on the fact that Frankel over 8f at Ascot meeting had an faster furlong than any sprinter in that meeting including BC and Kings stand winner, plus the raw speed displayed as 3yo esp. in the guineas so I'm pretty confident that if trained as a sprinter Frankel would've dominated in the same manner but breeding wise sprinters offer small incentive in Europe to train unlike middle distance horses

[@leesog3203]

makoceans Yeah, I agree with what you say.. It would have been some sight to behold, Frankel and Black Caviar in a Diamond Jubilee, but there's no doubt BC would be first off the Bridle.. Frankel's still on the bit 1 out, gets shaken up, draws clear and wins by a cosy 2 or 3 lengths.. I think everyone outside of Australia would agree.. But sayin that, I don't think we ever seen the best of BC because the competition was generally so substandard, she beat a world-class horse in Moonlight Cloud when only f*cking around with her, and after tearing muscles in her legs and travelling thousands of miles to do so.. but to even dream that she had the same or perhaps superior cruising speed to Frankel, not to mention his stamina advantage, and she may come out on top, is probably a sign you're losing your marbles! :)

[@LeeFinneyZ9]

You needn't worry, Because Frankel was different class to anything else running - Fact !!!

[@Velasca]

Frankel vs Black Caviar over 7 furlongs would have been interesting. The only distance both horses have ran over.

[@Velasca]

Velasca In fact, as someone was saying today on ATR, we need a Group 1 7f race. I can't understand why we don't.

[@postcardterry]

This was a momumental year for Frankel.Farrh won two group ones and he and Cirrus Des Aigles,the only two in the field who Frankel had beaten,dominated the Champion Stakes from an Epsom Derby winner.Then last weekend,Side Glance,who Frankel beat eleven lengths won his first Group One.The jigsaw is now complete!

[@sp319]

I still love watching this race. To go past a 128 and 130 rated horse on the bridle and begin to extend away is amazing. Farhhs 128 is legitimate, SYT was a 132 rater, Farhh was approx 2 lengths inferior = 128. Excelebration is now a 135 rated horse, and again Frankel left him on the bridle. Incredible.

[@ianturner5364]

'The undisputed champion of the world ' Brilliant commentary .

[@joshuadoherty562]

I'm not one who can be arsed starting arguments but I do feel the need to point out that Makybe Diva was trained in Australia but bred in the GB.

[@danielhawkes7932]

I've seen good horses over the years but none come close to frankel he was a monster he'd already be 2 lengths clear before he was even asked to go ... without a doubt the GOAT

[@ASupremeOwl]

RIP Sir Henry Cecil. A master trainer and a total genius when it came to training fillies as his record shows. A sad loss for British Racing, Probably one of the last great gentleman of the sport and it seems he held on long enough to see the career of his greatest ever work Frankel. What a story...

[@MrWTF74]

Very true. So You Think is the pin up or centrefold when it comes to the thoroughbred, he is a beautiful looking horse and exceptionally well put together. I got one of my mares served by SYT and will get two of my other mares served by him next season.

[@thebrasenose]

I'm so glad you are back Wavepattern, I was worried about you. Just to remind you, your jested "English accent" is a pretty good take on Cockney -- the accent from which your Australian accent derives, via the convicts shipped from Britain to your fair shores.

[@protarget1]

Pacemakers help ensure that a race is a solid test for the full duration of the trip, testing stamina and fitness as well as speed. This is what makes middle-distance racing what it is designed to be and it is what helps make middle-distance racing in Europe the best in the world”

[@makoceans]

I think you're wrong, he was the greatest over 7f and 10.5f but one who knows horse racing wonders how many top class sprinters could've hold up with his prolonged fast pace and then the burst of acceleration ? One who knows horse racing wonders how much can he stay when in both the juddmonte and champion stakes it took the jockey another 2-3 furlongs to stop him after the finish line. The word for him is unexposed and its simply remarkable to leave the scene like that. Greatest of them all!

[@joshuadoherty6704]

he was hit once last season mate. He had a few flicks to keep him straight but was physically struck with the whip once, in the Champion stakes.

[@MrWalto69]

@simon picket She's been whipped a few times mostly against Hay list who was the 2nd best sprinter in the world which happened to Frankel when he raced the 2nd best miler in the world Cirrus , she was whipped in her 4th start when she fell at the gate and suffered a muscle tear do you think Frankel with a muscle tear could smash a field ? lol can't wait to hear this one ,

[@MrWTF74]

BELOW IS A QUOTE BY TIMEFORM. "Timefigures measure the performance of horses not on their form one against another but in terms of time, in seconds (per five furlongs) faster or slower than a certain fixed standard. Their calculation takes account of track differences, race distances, the ages of the horses concerned, weight-for-age, weights carried, the state of the track surface and the strength and direction of the prevailing wind. Calculation and print-out are by computer."

[@estoforte388]

Great horse, great commentary.

[@torontoderek]

Great commentary to go with an awesome performance!

[@csracingreport2024]

Who's the RACE CALLER ? Sounds a bit like SIMON HOLT , but I'm not 100 % sure it's him

[@gillykiller316]

seen a lot of horses never one like him its a once in a lifetime gents

[@robsmith8769]

Its easy to forget the runners behind the winner. Absolute beasts who were unfortunate to be in same era as Frankel. Made them look average

[@TheChaos1950]

Why are you all getting so heated about a racehorse, everyone has their own opinion, i cannot speak for other countries but Frankel is the best i've seen in the UK and i've followed horse racing for over 50yrs, just glad i was around to see him.

[@Elonmuskateer]

Henry Cecil’s best horse, easy to see why .. shockingly extraordinary horse

[@makoceans]

Remember his 2 year old career ? Where there was no pace in his races ? Everyone was saying that Frankel only won by those huge margins 13 and 10 lengths because he needed slowly run races, they were proven wrong, all of them who said that he needed slowly run races were amazed at his Guineas 2000 win. Now when Frankel's career is over, some like you think that it actually was the other way around and he needed fast run races set by his pacemaker to win..

[@joshuadoherty6704]

correction as mak said, it was 2.25 lengths she beat Twice Over, not 4.

[@protarget1]

What was given to horses in US as early as 1971 was Furosemide. (Lasix) a preventative treatment for "Exercise-Induced Pulmonary Hemorrhage" a very common disease which affects the lungs of race horses. Horses with "EIPH" will bleed from the lungs during intensive exercise. Lasix lowers BP. therefore a horse can train harder and longer. It is also a Diuretic. which make the horse lighter and run faster . Sec 167cm 12OOlbs Frankel 165cm around 1300. HELLO!

[@gweightman]

From the land of Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens and The Beatles a warm welcome to our contributors from Australia from the land of Danii Minouge and Neighbours !!!!

[@joshuadoherty6704]

You beat me to it mate. Did a bloody good job as well.

[@makoceans]

And by the way, my affiliation with UK is that it introduced me to horse racing couple of years ago and since then horse racing brings my main income, be it in UK, France or big races in Dubai. Frankel is incredible to watch and by studying the form from the past 10 years.I can tell you its unique. Experts from old day say Frankel is unique in the past 50 years so you draw your own conclusion, but in your particular case only after you have done your brain scan :-))))

[@earp61able]

I know they had their differences, but i wonder whether sometimes Sheik Mohammed regrets his departure from Sir Henrys stables with his top horses. He had alot more success in the big races when he had horses trained there. After the events of the last week i believe a few memories of better times would flood back.

[@earp61able]

Both great racehorses who have given pleasure to their fans. Both now retired undefeated. So lets now appreciate the next generation of champions. Dawn Approach for one.

[@thebrasenose]

I don't know Charles but I certainly think there will be more horses like Frankel (although not necessarily quite as good) along soon... the training, behavioural and race management techniques used to help Frankel deliver were highly innovative and effective, and I fully expect them to be replicated and further developed in the coming seasons... which will not only help good horses deliver more, but improve their race-to-race consistency too... anyway, interesting to hear about Kingman...

[@MrWalto69]

@Joshua Doherty You are correct but did she ever race in England ? no , English were trying to claim Green Moon as theirs because he was trained and raced in England same with the other 2 irish ones who placed , I'm not stating the diva is pure Aussie i'm just saying theres a difference between us claiming her and you's claiming Green Moon ,

[@MrWTF74]

New Frankel Handicap Rating Angers Racing Greats. Unbeaten galloper Frankel has been rated higher than any other horse in history in a move that has evoked anger from members of the racing world.

[@MegaVector2011]

Lucky enough to have seen it, York is my home town. A memory and a day I will never forget.

[@andrewrogers4409]

for the best racehorse in living memory but Frankel is irreproachable, unbeaten, decisive, explosive,no excuses required, undisputed champion of the world

[@makoceans]

@thebrasenose, you're missing the point, no one said he raced over 12F but based on the EVIDENCE from his last 2 races where he ended his races with faster and faster sectionals in champion stakes or faster than any other horse in Juddmonte one who knows horse racing can tell he could have stayed another 1-2 furlongs. Like Brough Scott said "Frankel is probably the best miller that has ever graced the turf BUT he has to share the title of best middle horse"

[@makoceans]

I can't think why they didn't tried him over 12f but remember that after the last race Sir HC said that he could've improved even more in his 5yo but that the owner doesn't wants to race for another year. Look at the sectionals for the champion stakes, last 3 furlongs were done in 12.26, 12.07 and 11.91. Now that was soft ground which means that its actually 11-11.5f on good ground and with the faster final sectionals I don't see how one draws the conclusion he wouldn't had stayed 12f.

[@andrewrogers4409]

I didnt mean to, but hey! I saw Frankel in the Queen Anne and the Champion, the latter was by the far the most emotional sporting event I have been to, he was immense

[@ASupremeOwl]

What was competetion for Frankel? In his 3 year old and 4 year old campaign there wasn't a horse on the planet to touch him over a mile and a mile and quarter on turf. Im pretty certain about that. Excelebration's time in the Breeders Cup mile was quicker than any mile time run in Europe that year, He went down 2 lengths in a track record time after only racing 13 days previously on heavy going at Ascot winning the QE2 very easily...

[@joshuadoherty6704]

He wasn't fully extended in, His Maiden, his second race at Doncaster, The Royal Lodge, The Greenham, The Sussex, The Lockinge, he wasn't hit in the Queen Anne, The Juddmonte. He was fully extended and hit in in, The Dewhurst, The 2000 Guineas, The SJP, The QEII and The Champion Stakes. I make that 5 out of 14 rather than the 11 you mention.

[@tawandakativhu1997]

The beaten horses won multiple group 1 races. Its insane

[@earp61able]

Andre Fabre has been around decades. If you watch aussie racing Peter Moody picks up group one wins on numerous occasions with different horses. A talented trainer.

[@edmondscott7444]

Henry Cecil and Tom Queally got along very well. What a great horse.

[@rob9999i]

For me, when you consider St Nic was rated 130 and Fahrr 133, this puts into context how good Frankel was. Even today’s best racehorses are only rated 130

[@wawawutosnftbs8922]

Come back Jim magrath..you were the best..made any race look,sound and seem exciting.

[@earp61able]

Going under 10 for a furlong is shifting, but very different turf conditions and types of tracks. Flat aussie courses and underlating ones over here. Great to see both these brilliant champions retire unbeaten. Which was the best. They both were.

[@earp61able]

Lack of adventure. This great racehorse will be talked about long after we have fed the worms. A fitting final champion precisely trained by one of the greatest trainers of any era.

[@allday209]

Great commentary, even greater Frankel

[@protarget1]

Look up the term IDLING in Horseracing. He came back to paddock in the Gns & SJP not even blowing or sweating. It was mentioned by commentators. Quotes! "TQ dismissed suggestions that his mount had been tiring. "He was starting to get a little fed up as he just does it so easily," said the jockey. Sir Henry Cecil (RIP) added: "He wasn't at all tired, he just thought he'd done enough. That's good really, it means we can settle him in behind now"

[@joshuadoherty562]

Yes but they aren't running on the same day, they are running on different days, when conditions vary. That's why you get time figures and form figures, Both are much more valuable than just time on its own. Try running 100m on fast hard ground on a calm day. Record your time. Then do it on sludgy ground and compare your time. Which do you think will be fastest?

[@protarget1]

Frankel on the gallops in 2011 Numb Nuts, when he was asked to quicken. He just took off out of control, and out pace the local Newmarket/Newbury train. One newspaper hack seeing this out of curiosity timed him at 9.5secs for 1f.

[@joshuadoherty6704]

For the Queen Anne I think they did go an actual winning distance but for the Juddmonte they added an extra 2 on to his winning distance. Judging by how mucg ground he put on that field in 100 yards, It may be that the rating is conservative if anything.

[@thebrasenose]

There is a wonderful 20-second trackside video some Yorkshire punter has uploaded of this race. Enter:"Frankel !!! 13 out of 13 wins" into the search box -- you really get a sense of the overwhelming power and speed of this mighty horse, and of what it was like to be there at the Ebor that day....

[@halisozdemir531]

Juddmonte International Stakes 2020 1.Frankel 2.Halling 3.Bosra Sham 4.So You Think 5.Dubai Millennium 5.Nayef 6.Treve 7.Manduro 8.Lammtarra 9.Old Vic 10.Erhaab 11.Nashwan 12.Pebbles 13.Giants Causeway 14.Azamour 15.Sea The Stars 16.Deep Impact Who will Win??? 😀😀😀

[@earp61able]

I would not go as far as saying the best racing is over here. The quality on a worldwide basis is fantastic. The US, Australia, Japan, Hong Kong to name a few countries who produce champions to grace the turf on a global scale. The variety of British and Irish racing is brilliant. You cant beat watching a damn good chaser destroying the opponents, while jumping like a stag.

[@stu3232]

Still can't get over how easily he started to gap SNA and Farhh 2 or 3 lengths here without being asked. I think he had 9+ lengths on those 2 if fully asked this day. Staggering to be able to do that to horses of that calibre.

[@guitarlegend32]

@earp61able I can comfortably say one is better than the other as does every racing authority on earth.BC is no doubt a great sprinter but that is all she is.Frankel has done things in Europe which at the moment is the middle distance capital of the world,that no other horse has done regularly to opponents. That makes him the best we've seen whether you are from Europe or Jupiter.

[@Styalgent]

The Greatest. A lightning strike of genetics. Will we see his like again in our lifetime? History would suggest not. I hope so.

[@deanothomas11]

.and now the race develops, Frankel breezes up on the nearside with Queally sitting motionless and here he goes down into the final 2, into unknown territory’s farah is taking his effort in the centre sir Nicholas abbey a length and half to make up but frankel qually shakes the reigns up the response is immediate down to the last furlong frankel bounds clear and this is all over frankel scorching away this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of Rhythm and power and majesty, the undisputed champion of the world!”