Frankel is flawless in 2012 Juddmonte International Stakes

An iconic performance in modern horse racing. Frankel makes it 13 wins from 13 starts on his first start stepped up to 10 furlongs, with a performance that those present on the Knavesmire will still talk about for years to come. Trainer Sir Henry Cecil, in his final months of a battle against cancer, said the win had made him feel "20 years better".

[@kenflay5719]

We are unlikely to see another like Frankel, he is a freak of nature and a TRUE legend. In the Juddmonte he made very good horses look like class 6 no-hopers. He was trotting at the 3F marker and just cruised past them like he was in a training gallop. The reason why this horse is a legend is because of his consistency and truly staggering method oh his victories. No one has ever seen a horse do what he did in the 2000 Guineas. Genius horse, genius trainer...breathtaking!!!

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[@goonervillegonad3662]

Good lord.... Thank you Sir Henry for handling this beast the way you did, and RIP you genius. Never forgotten.

[@tallest5396]

Goonerville Gonad Well said. 👏

[@jamieharris7108]

We have never seen or will ever see a horse destroy group 1 performer after group 1 performer in such effortless fashion as frankel. 2 years on and this is just as breathtaking.

[@elgransenor1472]

Just a few years later we have Winx destroying those great legends of the turf, Hartnell, Happy Clapper, Humidor, Folkswood, Criterion, Gailo Chop, Blackheart Bart, Success Days... The list goes on.

[@earp61able]

Dancing Braves performance in the Arc was probably the most breath taking middle distance performance in the history of turf racing. The cameras were focused on Bering and a flash of equine brilliance just came into view and shot past. But being a believer he was the best horse over the last thirty odd years i cannot envisage a greater example of perfection than that shown by Frankel not once but twice. First in the Guiness and then in the Queen Anne. Jaw dropping. We have been blessed .

[@Robhalifax]

Cecil said Frankel is the best horse he had ever SEEN, not just trained. Thats good enough for me.

[@bowlchamps37]

Well, he is obviously very biased having had such an emotional connection to him. It´s like asking a Barca or Real Madrid player to choose between Messi and Ronaldo.

[@miffsky]

@@underscore2824 What does that have to do with Frankel?

[@iang-lb7nx]

@@bowlchamps37 but Frankel is Messi?

[@bowlchamps37]

@@iang-lb7nx Yeah, I would say so. I would compare Frankel to Messi and Sea The Stars to Ronaldo.

[@craigpope8580]

And me

[@youtubecj715]

Had the pleasure of meeting Frankel when he was still racing. He's extraordinary. He's a horse with an amazing personality. He is very aware of who he is and what he does. I can only compare him to Ali. A mix of confidence with ability and a certain amount of justified arrogance, yet surprisingly friendly. You don't normally get too close to these stallions, but he had a very nice nature about him. His body language (which is the main form of communication for horses) is a case study for any expert. Very talkative, very dominant. An incredibly intelligent horse and I'm glad to say a very happy and content horse.

[@postcardterry]

0.6 seconds inside standard without breaking sweat and seven lengths ahead of truly wonderful horse Farrh and a wide margin Breeders Cup World Champ; St Nick! A truly great racehorse !

[@john131349]

and he had travelled a bit further by moving across to the far rail

[@russe19642]

Did he break the track and race record?

[@postcardterry]

@@russe19642 Yes, his Queen Anne time was the best ever seen at Ascot over a mile. It would have been even faster on firm ground but the fans of U.K. horseracing, and the authorities, do not want to see firm ground. That is why we water.

[@joebaco1112]

Watching frankel do what he did to St Nicholas abbey was simply breathtaking I'm 30 years old and ready know I won't ever see another like him again!

[@robmatijevich8910]

"Queally shakes the reins, the response is immediate." "This perfect mix of poetry and destruction". This guy can call a horse race. Starts calm and collected, revs his vocal chords with a few furlongs left, and reaches an absolute crescendo approaching the wire. A fitting call for a true Champion!

[@mrvillan6951]

If you think this was good, listen to Ian Bartlett's commentary on Frankel's 2000 Guineas. He goes from surprise, to bemusement, to amazement, to awe, then respect and finally admiration.

[@scouserdan3]

Amazingly commentated! The best I heared was sea the stars l'arc de triomphe victory the commentary was unreal!

[@chrisbenson2264]

Mr Villan

[@Happyheretic2308]

Reins, not reigns!!

[@MarkHewitt]

To me the ITV coverage on the race had the greatest line of horse racing commentary ever: "...And they can't get him off the bridle".

[@katewild2194]

This was the race where I knew I had just seen one of the greatest race horses of all time.

[@gazowen7310]

Didn't realise shergar mill reef were in this

[@shaunmorris3835]

@@gazowen7310 helmet

[@Nautilus1972]

I knew that the first time I watched the Guineas.

[@SumoCumLoudly]

This would have been a very decent Juddmonte without Frankel in the race, two rock solid G1 horses in St Nicholas Abbey and Farhh, pulling well clear of Twice Over. The fact that Frankel cantered all over them like they were selling platers and then just breezed away from them hands and heels is quite remarkable. This is not a normal animal, a true freak of nature, the biggest freak probably since Secretariat.

[@rob9999i]

Well said, perfect summary!

[@rsb7311]

On that evidence I'm sure he would of stayed a mile and a half

[@JuiCeh93]

@@rsb7311 as a 4 year old his temperament was different, he would’ve won an Arc at 4 I’ve absolutely no doubt about it, I just don’t think he would’ve got the trip as a 3 year old.

[@thebrasenose]

Wavepattern, the more you tell us about yourself the more we love you....today we learn that not only are you wealthy, a respected international ratings expert, the owner of a lucrative business, the author of numerous books and in negotiations for your own TV show... on top of all that you are also a magnificent lover!

[@MegaVector2011]

In this race the class acts were St Nicholas, and Faarh challenging Frankel. St.Nicholas was a superstar, cantering but overtaken by the mighty Frankel

[@mikemclaren7753]

Farhhhhhh

[@camouflage873]

That's one of the most impressive performances by a racehorse ever,making Farrh look like a grade 6 handicapper

[@samsparrow4206]

St Nicholas Abbey too

[@russe19642]

Cause most were only class 6 horses anywhere else in the world

[@joshuaharper4340]

@@russe19642 st Nicholas abbey won the breeders cup turf lol

[@russe19642]

@@joshuaharper4340 and,guys don't lol either Did you see abbydd over weekend down here,I was on him 4/1. We haven't got much running around at the moment great,most sent to stud

[@joshuaharper4340]

@@russe19642 Yeah but Europe breeds these middle distance horses and Australia nowhere else can compete right now. But Frankel could turn out to be the most successful sire in the history of racing. He’s already the most successful at this stage of his stud life.

[@ThefightingCelt]

For me, this is Frankel's best performance. This was the race where the great Brigadier Gerard met his one and only defeat in 18 races. Frankel was racing at just over a mile and a quarter for the first time, going left handed for the first and only time, and still he beat top class Group 1 middle distance horses with contemptuous ease.

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[@ASupremeOwl]

RIP Sir Henry Cecil. A master trainer and a total genius when it came to training fillies as his record shows. A sad loss for British Racing, Probably one of the last great gentleman of the sport and it seems he held on long enough to see the career of his greatest ever work Frankel. What a story...

[@fadzilayub6657]

Based on what st nic & farhh accomplished , his accomplishments in the mile races Frankel deserves his best in the world rating.

[@postcardterry]

+fadzil Ayub Well said Fadzil ! The late great St Nick, Farhh , Excelebration, Canford Cliffs, Nathaniel(on debut) and ,of course , the mighty Cirrus Des Aigles too ! Record winning margins , record starting prices ,14 races and 14 times fav (13 at odds on) , and 14 victories !

[@earp61able]

Both great racehorses who have given pleasure to their fans. Both now retired undefeated. So lets now appreciate the next generation of champions. Dawn Approach for one.

[@littleonions]

Rip sir henry, I was here on that day of frankels last run, without doubt the greatest of all time, speed, control, class, power, and quealy a true craftsman. The greatest racehorse in the world, and without doubt the greatest 'gentleman' in racing sir henry. Never forgotten, never replaced, god bless you sir henry, a true gent.

[@slide_drexler]

How can Frankel be "the greatest racehorse in the world" when his connections didnt even consider him for The Derby or The Arc?

[@SuperBuster3000]

@@slide_drexler if he’s not going to stay the trip what’s the point? The distance of the race means nothing when taking about ability

[@slide_drexler]

@@SuperBuster3000 the great athletes became great by winning something that is very prestigious.In Thoroughbred Horse Racing, The Derby and The Arc are the two most prestigious and coveted prizes a Thoroughbred Race Horse connections aim for. Frankel was one of the best Milers ever but he is not "The Greatest Ever" as proclaimed by his worshippers.

[@ijazmoh9545]

We are all fortunate to have witnessed the greatest racehorse ever.I honestly dont believe we'll ever see one of his likes again.

[@tigerboy1966]

***** They didn't say anything of the sort about Sir Ivor, because he was annihilated by a horse called Vaguely Noble in the Arc. People forget,

[@robertmclachlan5669]

You never seen Winx?

[@Grxyzar]

Introducing Enable

[@rob9999i]

@Robert, yes I have, many times. Wouldn’t even beat St Nicholas Abbey. She was only rated around 130, doesn’t even register on all time great lists and very rightly so

[@paulnewman3282]

I've been racing for 50 years ..this horse is an equine freak ..pure 100% poetry in motion ..a joy to watch ..never ever in my lifetime be another like him..maybe a projeny of frankl himself ..who knows but all I do know this is is the best racehorse ever

[@jamesrichardson3500]

I was there that day.....he'd have won an Arc and a Derby, he was that good. There'll never be another like him.

[@jamesrichardson3500]

The extra 2 furlongs wouldn't have stopped him. He was going away here it was visible on course

[@lordfarquard9902]

Enable would have battered Frankel in the Arc and I fucking adore Frankel. He wasn’t making 1 mile 4 easily. Yes I know Enable is slightly after Frankel but still, keep in your lane I say!

[@jamesrichardson3500]

@@lordfarquard9902 they said he was vulnerable over 1m2 that day and it wasnt fast ground as there had been a lot of rain that week. I think he would have made 1m4 easy, he needed a pace maker over a mile because he wanted to stretch other's stamina. It's all opinions and ours differ

[@lordfarquard9902]

@@jeanlawley6483 I can’t believe Frankel doesn’t have a time track record. Blows my mind. Winx has every track record imaginable and yet Frankel is still considered. Secretariats records still stand 50 years later. Frankel has 0 records.

[@bobbymadera4763]

this is the best race horse ever in this earth period no question ask frankel I don't care others opinion

[@postcardterry]

Congratulations to the mighty Frankel on the victory of his son ; Cuncu who won cosily at Newbury ! That is 1/1 for the greatest racehorse of the modern era ! It is impossible to know how good the form is but it is, at least, comforting to see that the winner of this particular race last year was the classy King Of Rooks.

[@wayevs]

This is still frankels most impressive performance the way he destroyed Faahh and. St nic was unbelievable he made them look like group 3 horses,, when frankel retired I backed Faahh in every race the following season and he never let me down it just goes to show how good frankel was

[@roberthartley6629]

Wayne Evans I totally disagree. He made them look like Group 1 horses. It is simple. He is just so much better than really good group one horses :-)

[@garyoptica]

+Robert Hartley he ran faster and ten times more convincing than Golden horn at the same race and its a shame he never got a crack at 12 furlongs.

[@edkaley1]

Frankel is probably the best thoroughbred we have ever seen.in the UK bar none - Secretariat probably the best in the USA. Black Caviar is a sprinter and would never ever get competitive over 7f or 8f against these - she would struggle against Dayjur and a few others

[@MegaVector2011]

ed kaley And either of the Powers Sole or Slade.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

ed kaley You could argue that Frankel's the greatest racehorse the world has ever seen. He's certainly the most valuable stallion ever.

[@postcardterry]

Sloth from The Goonies Strictly speaking, that is only true because of Frankel`s age. I doubt he would cost more than Galileo or Dubawi but both of those are only available privately or by prior agreement with the owners. Frankel ,unfortunately, is highly unlikely to ever produce one as good as himself because so called "superhorses" never do.

[@postcardterry]

Sloth from The Goonies Strictly speaking, that is only true because of Frankel`s age. I doubt he would cost more than Galileo or Dubawi but both of those are only available privately or by prior agreement with the owners. Frankel ,unfortunately, is highly unlikely to ever produce one as good as himself because so called "superhorses" never do.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

postcardterry Even if his offspring turn out to be half as good as him, they'd still be damn fine racehorses.

[@MrWTF74]

New Frankel Handicap Rating Angers Racing Greats. Unbeaten galloper Frankel has been rated higher than any other horse in history in a move that has evoked anger from members of the racing world.

[@333DAVYBOY]

You can compare all the American, European and Australian horses to the mighty Frankel but in the modern era did anyone of the horses you compare him to absolutely destroy everything from 6f to 1m 2f he faced for 3 yrs running without defeat . Respect to black caviar but it was nearly always the same distance against a lot of the same horses

[@333DAVYBOY]

***** You've done what everyone does when comparing a horse to Frankel,you remember the great runs but then make excuses for the bad ones. Heres another reason why he was the best, because he didn't need excuses he NEVER lost.

[@tigerboy1966]

***** Frankel would have annihilated Secretariat over a mile or ten furlongs. Can't be sure about 12 furlongs as Frankel never ran over the distance. In a perfect world, Sec would have gone to Europe in 1974 and won the King George and the Arc, thus proving his greatness. Ah well...

[@tigerboy1966]

***** btw I don't buy the excuses. If Sec was unfit or sick why the f*ck did they run him? He was one of the best horses ever, but he had some off days. No problem with that,

[@brubakerman8717]

***** Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Frankel = class

[@brubakerman8717]

***** Pure class a world beater, not much you can say, I know, your speechless.

[@Flightwithoutwings]

The eye and brain can't keep up with the exceleration of that amazing horse. He's a freak of nature, a very good freak of nature at that. We have been blessed to see such a horse and l doubt we will see another like him in our lifetime.

[@1213prettynpink]

(this poster's father) ; I was there that day, was the second time ( after the previouis season's champions day) that i saw him in the flesh, and it was the most gob-smacking performance ive ever seen in my life. Standing atop the county stand with thousands of other genuine racing enthusiasts, to a man the hair stood up on the backs of our necks, and our jaws dropped as one. I'll never forget that day. Thank you York, and thank you to the patrons of York Racecourse. The Ascot of the north? I think Ascot could do no worse than tout itself as the York of the south.

[@Megavector2022]

Me too. My home town racecourse, still got the 'Go Frankel' paddle. The atmosphere at the races that day was amazing. Remember it as if it was yesterday.

[@Peter-ix1ym]

I was there I could of been stood next to you. I remember that time stood still and everything that mattered in my life mattered little. Afterwards I remember thinking that I was there and that’s all that mattered. I was always meant to be in that stand that day. I can always say I saw the greatest horse ever

[@earp61able]

Lack of adventure. This great racehorse will be talked about long after we have fed the worms. A fitting final champion precisely trained by one of the greatest trainers of any era.

[@leesog3203]

The greatest performance seen on a racecourse...? Only a handful can be compared to this.. Ribot's Arc.. Sea Birds Arc and Derby.. Secretariat's Derby and Belmont.. The form of this race was unbelievable.. No horse cruises past Farhh (Timeform 133) and St Nicholas Abbey (Timeform130) like that - they where champions.. The scary thing about Frankel is we may never have seen the best of him - he beat Farhh by a length further over 10.5f, than a mile - and with extraordinary ease - you can only imagine how incredible he'd be over 12f - He may have been the first horse to break 150+ with Timeform.

[@leedelaney70]

Frankel was a super horse, a champion, but I doubt his opposition at a mile. I'll debate best ever all day long but he can only race who's put in front of him so I having nothing but admiration for Frankel. Excelebration was vastly overrated by Timeform. One should never quote Timeform's ratings with any degree of certainty. Farhh 133 ? Seriously ? So You Think gave him a hiding doing far more work in the run a cruising through the line.. Battaash given the same rating as the career unbeaten 15 times Group 1 winner Black Caviar lol lol. Battaash has won a single Group 1 and has been beaten 3 of his last 5. Must be some all time great sprinters in Europe if Black Caviar's equal is getting regularly beaten. Funny how Australian 3yo Merchant Navy goes there and beats them both times he runs and July Cup winner U S Navy Flag goes to Australia and is thrashed in all 3 races he runs in. Oh yeah but Timeform just say he didn't run his best and Merchant Navy magically found 3 or 4 lengths......

[@cmrcz7550]

I agree, probably the greatest performance ever. To cruise past and destroy such classy horses, is just scary.

[@protarget1]

@AnotherFasnet70 The simple fact is that every handicapping or rating bodies around the world, have Frankel their highest rated flat racehorse in their history. TF has Frankel 147. Every horse that had a TF of 140 or above only achieved it once in their racing career Here's Frankel's last TF ratings Judd Down. 140: 142:136:147:144:143:140. The IFHA World rankings is the same Every horse that was rated 135 and above did that only once. Frankel's ran 135+ 6 times including 2 140's The horses he beat back up that form.

[@oneman4180]

you know when you see a special horse and he was just the best ever.

[@fckem1000]

Toughest test at odds of 1/10

[@Styalgent]

The Greatest. A lightning strike of genetics. Will we see his like again in our lifetime? History would suggest not. I hope so.

[@ASupremeOwl]

The greatest

[@silviamendoza6967]

Frankel would have destroyed Drosselmeyer and Fort Larnered on breeders cup day if..Woulda been a Great race if he came 2010 to face Blame Zenyatta and AMerican Pharoahs daddy Looking At Lucky.. Racing getting good with these New babies coming up!!!!

[@GBeret83]

Silvia Mendoza , Assuming he would've handled the switch from turf to conventional dirt? Some horses handle the switch without issue, but some horses who've raced exclusively on turf end up just spinning their wheels once they try racing on conventional dirt. A great example of that was Fame and Glory in the Breeders Cup Marathon. On paper, the best horse in the race by a street, but ended up as a DNF that day racing on conventional dirt. That being said, had Frankel raced in the Classic and had no issues with the surface switch I don't see the outcome having been anything much more than a foregone conclusion.

[@postcardterry]

+GBeret83 And why would Henry Cecil have ever thought about the Breeder`s Cup or dirt??? He cared about his horses so much that a trip to America was a non starter! Furthermore why should Britain`s greatest racehorse take on the U.S drug scene?? Would you want your beloved horse to race on anti bleeding medication or to not feel pain when injured?? Pain is the bodies warning system! The U.S. puts its Olympic athletes in jail if they take drugs(Marion Jones) but encourages its use in their thoroughbreds. We, in blighty, don`t want that! We want Frankel to live a long healthy life in retirement - red-rum-esque till he`s 30 at least !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rickydominy9284]

This was one of my favorite race calls of all time.

[@csracingreport2024]

Who's the RACE CALLER; Sounds a bit like SIMON HOLT, but I'm not 100 % sure it's him ; Would greatly appreciate the info 4 accuracy on CREDITS upon completion of Part 2 of a UK Superstars Video Series

[@myfrobert]

@@csracingreport2024 Stewart Machin.

[@earp61able]

Going under 10 for a furlong is shifting, but very different turf conditions and types of tracks. Flat aussie courses and underlating ones over here. Great to see both these brilliant champions retire unbeaten. Which was the best. They both were.

[@jazmeenkhan9330]

this horse has won more race than he been whip in his career

[@alanconvey7981]

best flat horse ever by a mile

[@kayjay9sl]

apart from brigadier gerard

[@katewild2194]

I have been racing for getting on for sixty years and for most of that time a pro punter I have seen all the great horses run in that time and I can tell you Frankel is the best I have seen the only other horse that I could compare with him was Sea Bird.

[@connorduke4619]

+Kate Wild Indeed, and from a more global perspective the greatest horse since Secretariat.

[@postcardterry]

+Kate Wild well said Kate for a frank clear appraisal ! He was very very special ! All he needs to do now is produce one like himself and we can relive those times. David Ashforth has written about the subject and stated that super horses never produce super horses so we must live in hope !

[@katewild2194]

I would also like to mention Vaguely Noble and Busted.

[@connorduke4619]

+postcardterry Man O War produced War Admiral - both super horses.

[@postcardterry]

Don`t confuse "great horse" with "superhorse" ! He meant horses regarded as well above the average top class horse. All horses are super/great in the opinion of many observers. Superhorse is quite different ! Frankel ,Secretariat, Shergar and Arazi are the ones that we hear repeatedly in England,and before the modern era ;Ribot and Sea Bird II. Secretariat certainly was not a superhorse because he got beaten far too often! Arazi is similar to Secretariat in that he did something extraordinary at Breeders Cup once. None have improved their reputations at stud although poor Shergar was executed by the IRA ,but did produce a lovely filly ;Maysoon, in his first crop of 3year olds ,and she was placed in 1,000 Guineas. I don`t know enough about the two you have mentioned but with solid English pedigrees dating back to great Derby winners such as St Simon(1883) in England, it is possible. However, American racing is too much about blinds, blinkers and Lasix to be taken seriously ! It is also not that good at winning Breeders Cup races where again this year, we saw Europeans dominate the BC Turf. The death of Barbaro at three was a devastating blow for America because he did have the makings of a superstar as American Pharoah is ! Ban Lasix and you will be taken more seriously !

[@gweightman]

Dear Mr Wavepattern, 1. The Grand National is the most viewed race in the world 2. The Derby is the most well attended race in the world 3. Royal Ascot is the most well attended meeting in the world 4. The Cheltenham Festival is the biggest draw in the racing world

[@MrWTF74]

Very true. So You Think is the pin up or centrefold when it comes to the thoroughbred, he is a beautiful looking horse and exceptionally well put together. I got one of my mares served by SYT and will get two of my other mares served by him next season.

[@andrewrogers4409]

I didnt mean to, but hey! I saw Frankel in the Queen Anne and the Champion, the latter was by the far the most emotional sporting event I have been to, he was immense

[@thebrasenose]

I cannot help thinking that despite the denials, MrWTF74 is a persona created by our dear friend Mr Walto

[@thebrasenose]

I'm so glad you are back Wavepattern, I was worried about you. Just to remind you, your jested "English accent" is a pretty good take on Cockney -- the accent from which your Australian accent derives, via the convicts shipped from Britain to your fair shores.

[@thebrasenose]

Both DB and Frankel were true greats who ran in different ways. In assessing the 3 races (Frankel's 140 Q Anne/Juddmonte; DB's 138 Arc) the IFHA didn't just rate for winning distance, but added more because of how the horse was travelling. DB had blinding pace at the death, Frankel was barely off the bridle as if he had more to give. Therein lies my doubt. Frankel never showed himself capable of a second surge after his initial acceleration - so I think the IFHA have gone over the top with 140.

[@ASupremeOwl]

One as a 2 year old at Doncaster hard on the steel and nearly 4 hard on the bridle. He was 0.56 seconds outside the track record in the Queen Anne stakes on Good to Soft ground. I cant for the life of Me remember a track record being lowered in the UK with that going and Frankel nearly did it unextended...

[@burkhillcomedy]

He look like he had joined the race at the three pole, amazing performance by a terrific horse, for me in the top 3 best performance in a middle distance race of all time

[@protarget1]

Look up the term IDLING in Horseracing. He came back to paddock in the Gns & SJP not even blowing or sweating. It was mentioned by commentators. Quotes! "TQ dismissed suggestions that his mount had been tiring. "He was starting to get a little fed up as he just does it so easily," said the jockey. Sir Henry Cecil (RIP) added: "He wasn't at all tired, he just thought he'd done enough. That's good really, it means we can settle him in behind now"

[@Lukestar249]

ok: 1 - Frankel improved more than Excelebration did from his 3 year old campaign to his 4 year old. He extended the difference in class between them. 2 - the FURTHEST Excelebration has run is 8F, he likes a quick 8F ideally. Side Glance has run well up to 10F. In the QA, O'Brien challenged Frankel, he tried to live with his pace over the 8F on GS, this is why Excelebration ended paddling to the line when Side Glance was running on strongly. -horses mature better than others, they aren't robots

[@ASupremeOwl]

St Nicholas Abbey wins the 2013 Dubai Sheema easily in a track record and Frankel makes him look ordinary here. What a horse...

[@MrWTF74]

Glad to see BC3 purchase Black Caviar's half Sister last year by Redout's Choice for $2.86 Million including GST BC3 are again the owners of the full Brother (Redout's Choice x Helsinge) or half Brother to the Mighty mare Black Caviar. It's absolutely fabulous to see BC3 purchased the full brother now for $5.5 Million including GST They obviously have a very HIGH opinion of the full sister to this magnificent colt who is now a 2 year old. Awesome they kept these horses in Australia. Well done.

[@protarget1]

Ok Forget the book Knob Head. The TV interview with Bruce Clark at Royal Ascot was better He! He! One of the finest performances we have ever seen on a race course in my history in racing. Asked by Bruce Clark, He is the world’s best racehorse? He is and you saw why today, I saw why today. Absolutely outstanding. Absolutely a superb racehorse and you know I don’t think I have seen the equal of that performance ever. lol lol lol

[@makoceans]

I can't think why they didn't tried him over 12f but remember that after the last race Sir HC said that he could've improved even more in his 5yo but that the owner doesn't wants to race for another year. Look at the sectionals for the champion stakes, last 3 furlongs were done in 12.26, 12.07 and 11.91. Now that was soft ground which means that its actually 11-11.5f on good ground and with the faster final sectionals I don't see how one draws the conclusion he wouldn't had stayed 12f.

[@earp61able]

Why do we get comments about certain horses by people who downgrade achievements these animals achieve months after their retirement. I dont know. It says something about the horse.

[@joshuadoherty562]

Walto mate, the Irish have adopted the British Methodology, they are pretty fortunate that Coolmore is based there because of John Magnier who is arguably the most influential man in racing. But they live and breathe racing and if I'm not mistaken, the racing industry occupies 20% of the working population over there. So perhaps they deserve all that credit.

[@karenneedham6984]

Never be another frankel

[@joshuadoherty6704]

He wasn't fully extended in, His Maiden, his second race at Doncaster, The Royal Lodge, The Greenham, The Sussex, The Lockinge, he wasn't hit in the Queen Anne, The Juddmonte. He was fully extended and hit in in, The Dewhurst, The 2000 Guineas, The SJP, The QEII and The Champion Stakes. I make that 5 out of 14 rather than the 11 you mention.

[@halisozdemir531]

Juddmonte International Stakes 2020 1.Frankel 2.Halling 3.Bosra Sham 4.So You Think 5.Dubai Millennium 5.Nayef 6.Treve 7.Manduro 8.Lammtarra 9.Old Vic 10.Erhaab 11.Nashwan 12.Pebbles 13.Giants Causeway 14.Azamour 15.Sea The Stars 16.Deep Impact Who will Win??? 😀😀😀

[@thebrasenose]

The Queen Anne was stunning but my understanding is the IFHA upgraded Frankel there too - there's a report in the Independent. Let's not also forget that Excelebration tailed off in the QA after going early with Frankel which exaggerated the gap. The couple of times Frankel was asked for a final spurt, there wasn't that much there. Had he and Cirrus run in this year's muddy Arc it would have been close, and in 1986 DB might have pipped him, who knows? But I'm glad to have seen both these greats.

[@makoceans]

Oh, you're another bc fan, I should've imagined. As I said people like you are the reason I find value and make money :-) So you can imagine I wouldn't want to change your views on horse racing :-)

[@ASupremeOwl]

What was competetion for Frankel? In his 3 year old and 4 year old campaign there wasn't a horse on the planet to touch him over a mile and a mile and quarter on turf. Im pretty certain about that. Excelebration's time in the Breeders Cup mile was quicker than any mile time run in Europe that year, He went down 2 lengths in a track record time after only racing 13 days previously on heavy going at Ascot winning the QE2 very easily...

[@thebrasenose]

I don't know Charles but I certainly think there will be more horses like Frankel (although not necessarily quite as good) along soon... the training, behavioural and race management techniques used to help Frankel deliver were highly innovative and effective, and I fully expect them to be replicated and further developed in the coming seasons... which will not only help good horses deliver more, but improve their race-to-race consistency too... anyway, interesting to hear about Kingman...

[@MrBigNuts09]

In my opinion Frankel will always be the greatest racehorse of all time, and Henry Cecil was an absolute maestro with his training skills.

[@makoceans]

Listen, before he extended his distance by 2f in the Juddmonte taking the 10f, real racing experts were asked how someone could beat Frankel because clearly he wasn't yet tested over 10f so most of them said that if St Nicholas Abbey was to beat Frankel they would need a pretty strong pace because SNA was doing very good on 1m4f, so if you watch the video that we're commenting now you'll see that there were 3 horses playing as front-runners who raised the overall speed to 39mph,

[@andrewbaker5584]

I really don't know how the Aussies think Winx is better than Franke 🤷‍♂️ Always been a delusional country!!

[@MegaVector2011]

It was nice to see him in the flesh on my home town course.

[@MrTristanrose]

Frankel would pull apart every horse thats ever lived from 7f to 10f. Fact. Frankel would beat most horses between 5f an 14f... but he we will never know. what he did to horse on a race track is simply astonishing.

[@joshuadoherty6704]

Also, for this race, this isn't 1 mile 1/4 its 1 Mile 5/16.... So its like 2100m. As well the undulations and running across the track. I can only assume that is why Speed Figures are used to assess performance rather than pure time. As far as speed figures go, he's had 4 of the top 6 this decade. Even if the bare time doesn't stack up. That is pretty impressive.

[@thebrasenose]

If the pacemaker was really so ineffective, then why did Cecil persist in using one throughout Frankel's later career? In fact there were 2 reasons, namely (1) to keep the race briskly run - in part to stop a Frankel charge - and (2) to place the race in a context Frankel was behaviourally at home with. There's no question Bullet Train helped settle Frankel and regulate the races he ran in. None of the other greats needed this kind of cosseting. Frankel is a true great but we should accept this.

[@postcardterry]

Hi,You talk about sectionals but Frankel could not be blamed even if the sectionals were bad because he was held up!He won this race,beating two very very good horses easily and he wasn't finished.After the race he was still headstrong and had not reached his maximum.His time at Ascot in 2012 was simply amazing and he is the yardstick.

[@joshuadoherty6704]

Goldikova won those races for exactly those reasons. Your point about Athletics is quite a good one though. However, the middle distance Athletics races you mentioned were invented to be run on the Athletics track. That was what it was originally run on. Just like horse racing was invented with the intention to be run on tracks like the undulating straight Rowley mile or courses like Epsom, Doncaster and Ascot.

[@ASupremeOwl]

Who did Frankel need to face worldwide to prove his standing in the World Thoroughbred Ratings? The racing in Europe is very competetive as it is and on his last start in the Champion Stakes he faced the 2nd and 4th best rated horses in the world over 10f/12f, In this race St Nicholas Abbey is a top 10 rated horse who proved when beating Gentildonna last time out that hes a very good animal and hes made to look second rate here...

[@earp61able]

Bloody great last three furlongs. Al

[@gweightman]

From the land of Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens and The Beatles a warm welcome to our contributors from Australia from the land of Danii Minouge and Neighbours !!!!

[@thebrasenose]

I actually think Frankel IS flat out. He simply runs with that action and couldn't accelerate further whether he came off the bridle or not. The issues for me are (a) how LONG can he sustain that speed for and (b) Can he do it at the tail end of a brisk race? In this Juddmonte, he got an alpha-plus on both those points.

[@joshuadoherty6704]

Nijinsky shares the same rating as Tulloch and was a triple crown winner. He raced in Europe. Makes no difference, there was none of this bitterness towards timeform when Australia had the top 2 rated horses in the world 2 years ago.

[@postcardterry]

Following on from Frankel`s first 2yo winner on Friday, Hugo Palmer has a colt ; MAJORIS who is working beautifully and will be ready to run very soon - possibly Newbury next week. He has a big white face and his likely target is the Chesham at Royal Ascot later. What excites me about this particular colt is that his mother has delivered the blood of mighty Miesque ! The best mare I have ever seen ! This year is going to be great !!

[@zacpowers4411]

A beautiful horse in this video... Jane G - Love Is A Soldier (Official Music Video)

[@delegator001]

brings tears to my eyes . enough said.

[@robsmith8769]

Its easy to forget the runners behind the winner. Absolute beasts who were unfortunate to be in same era as Frankel. Made them look average

[@earp61able]

Peter Moody is brilliant trainer and not a bad judge. He trains a great mare in Black Caviar , and appreciates the brilliance of Frankel. Overated hey. If there has been any better flat racing horses than these two over the last twenty years I would love to have seen them.

[@thebrasenose]

Check out the Steve Mellish/Brough Scott KZbin Frankel feature and also the interview with Dominic Gardiner-Hill.... very interesting stuff.. I was left feeling that if Dancing Brave had been trained like Frankel to run with a pacemaker - which after all is the reason for Frankel's consistency - then he might have been even better. And there's no question that Dancing Brave's 1986 Arc was the greatest race of modern times. I think in the end Frankel's 140 will be revised a touch downwards...

[@thebrasenose]

The legacy of great horses is determined by their achievements, not might-have-beens or capabilities. How quaint that in Frankel's case, some devotees think it should be different. For goodness sake, forget 12F - Frankel achieved zero at this, the Derby, KG & Arc distance. But celebrate his grandeur as a miler, and his brilliance here at York. Nobody doubts he's an all-time great, but all this Frankolatry is absurd. Shock Horror - Frankel had limitations!! Now go and have a nice hot cup of tea.

[@Lukestar249]

The Queen Anne was a fluke? What an idiotic comment.. Frankel had strengthened up significantly from his 3 year old to his 4 year old campaign. He was carrying a lot of excess weight in the Lockinge and his connections made it clear he would improve a great deal for the run, which he did! Ballydoyle had just got Excelebration from the Botti stable and had a prep run at the Curragh to fully prep Excelebration for the Lockinge, that's why he was only beaten by 5L, and was destroyed in the Q A..!

[@Grifiki]

"I believe I did say 'Over, a Mile' This race is just one Mile, and not over."

[@leobowman8149]

Explain to this American... why the absurdly wide turn when they went for home?

[@petermoody6147]

To: :Leo Bowman - Largely because of the different variables between American and European racecourses and how best to 'race' a horse, on such. Tracks here differ widely in their layout and behaviour to the elements. They are areas of natural countryside that are of relatively flat terrain and consequently the natural drainage can be idiosyncratic. This particular course is in the Vale of York which on occasion is prone to severe flooding. That is why times for horses that race in these (British)conditions do not provide a reliable indicator or metric as to ability. Hence the expression 'horses for courses'. A consistent horse can produce consistent ability and performance but record markedly different racing times. During a race meeting of quite often three days jockeys and trainers have assessed the best route and conditions for their horse to navigate the track to their best advantage, often walking the course on race-day. Taking the shortest route or what appears to be the fastest does not always equate and is secondary to giving the horse its best chance or ability to win . At York (sic. here) it was most likely for it to have been very soft or heavy ground from that point onwards so they all moved to the stand side. Yes, it could be argued for example, superficially that a big advantage could possibly be gained by a jockey choosing to stay on his current path but one must remember that horses are pack animals and his mount may decide that it would rather run alongside its fellow equines or that the ' run' is no longer fun and is 'over'. Ha,ha! This brings to mind another expression, 'always the bridesmaid, never the bride' as it has long been observed that some horses often finish in second place because they do not see themselves as leaders of the pack.

[@postcardterry]

Gardiner wrote "He was a nice horse who also beat the incomparable Mahogany over a mile in the Craiglee."

[@bgardiner3354]

Did your Mum show you how to use cut and paste Terry? I'm so proud of you

[@postcardterry]

you should be ashamed of yourself , not proud Gardiner ! Your judgement will come at the end of Royal Ascot ! Remember all the wonders and miracles that were going to be achieved by Oz horses this year ?? Let`s see !

[@bgardiner3354]

Remember when At Talaq ran 4th to Dancing Brave in the 1986 Epsom Derby? Oh that's right... He didn't win. Oh that's right... Wrong year. Tit

[@postcardterry]

right year actually ! It was related with your knowledge of Sadlers Wells and what you wrote about him ! Check the result(1984) and see if you can fathom it out ?? I am a bit of a tit sometimes but I would hate to be a misogynist ! I saw how you replied to Ann ! Remember ??I suggest you buy Ruffs 1986 !

[@rafaelarrieta6518]

Un Fenómeno Frankel Ganaba Como Quisiera

[@thebrasenose]

I do think it's a shame that in nearly every video, they do a close-up of the horse just when the key acceleration happens, It means the viewer seldom gets a good shot of the race as a whole at this key moment or appreciates what Frankel does to the field. The same thing happened in the Queen Anne video. Crappy camera selection.

[@MrWTF74]

At any stage did I mention you? Good for you, im just stating facts. I did say Europe breed the BEST stayers in the world also. Why do you try to turn a simple comment I made into a argument. GROW UP it's not going to happen!!!

[@earp61able]

Taking credit for other countries success. Being a pom I am glad there is quality coming out of other countries and for that continents. You cant knock Wise Dan, Black Caviar, Ocean Park. All damn good horses. OK we have had the Frankel factor, which has led to arguements due to his respective merits, deserved or not. But its been great for racing. But we have seen great performances elsewhere , especially the aussie great at Royal Ascot.

[@horsepony3]

@thebrasenose if secretariat was on steroids, why did the vets that did his autopsy say his heart was perfect and nothing was wrong with it?

[@protarget1]

Here' some interesting facts for you to check Numb Nuts. Frankel ran only 2 10f races. The judd was by far if not visually his best. On the bridle cruising to 1f then pushed out. Here are the splits. Note: these are from the finish.. ie. Last 5f after running 5f was 57.53. :10f/1:58.4 : 9.5f/1:51.21 : 9f/1:45.91 : 8f/1:33.74 : 7f/1:21.88 : 6.5f/1:15.89 : 6f/1.09.79 : 5.5f/1:03.53 5f/57.53. (Cont1

[@thebrasenose]

Actually to be fair to Wavepattern, it turns out he was at the racecourse all last weekend -- and made money. He was just outside the main entrance wearing a sandwich board advertising "Golf Sale Today"... and at the end of his two 10-hour shifts he caught the bus home with a cool 140 Aussie dollars in his back pocket !

[@wawawutosnftbs8922]

Can't help feeling Henry Cecil should have been more brave with Frankel and rode him in Europe or America where he would annihilated his opposition I think. Would have loved to see him run further bcoz going on the York run he would have cruised 1mile 4furlongs in the Arc or derby or even both. Sea the stars did it so why not the greatest horse that we've ever seen??

[@johnwedgbury6817]

he'd never have lasted 1m 4f in the derby. way too headstrong as a 3yo. the arc on this evidence it looks like it would have taken a big performance to stop him winning it. he was kind of slow to mature, but had so much talent it didn't matter. should have gone for the arc in last season in my opinion. having said that, if my opinion mattered i'd be training group 1 winners too. i just would have loved to have seen him win the arc before retiring.

[@tomtheeagle1]

Henry Cecil was suffering from cancer and did not long survive Frankel's retirement. Globetrotting was not an option.

[@cmf4321]

Michael Phelps became famous because he was trying to break the fastest (& most swimming medals) won in Olympic history...Mark Spitz. Without Mark Spitz...all of the other swimmers were great swimmers. Mark Spitz set a whole different standard in the 70's. It took over 35 yrs before Michael Phelps matched it. He won 8 golds but broke 7 world records. Mark won 7 gold medals & set 7 world records. Everything else is JUST conversation. Accordingly...why have clocks at all..(smile) Nothing personal.

[@makoceans]

I already said that 2nd.Moonlight Cloud (beaten by Excelebration 1.75L) 5th. Society Rock (beaten by Dream Ahead 4.75L) Frankel beat Excelebration by an average of 5L and beat Dream Ahead by an average of 6.5L She beat them by head, nose.. 1 LENGTH max.. why do you think mentioning them its worthwhile ? :-) The excuse with the injury does not stay, if she wouldn't have been fit to race then she would've been a non-runner and the doctor wouldn't have let her race in no circumstance.

[@Sainters666]

Why did you buy the book Profag???