FRANKEN-SLUGS - Ugly as Sin but SURPRISING Results

Today we test out some slugs Ron calls "Excavators". A jacketed hollow point dum-dum slug is the best way I can describe these. They were tricky to get to function correctly but everything seemed to work out quite well at the end.
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[@clearlakerain]

Thanks Jeff for the beautiful slow motion filming of my Excavator Slugs (aka: red-neck hollow point slugs)

[@CaseyGoff]

Ron, were the off center grooves on the nose on purpose, or were we just trying to see what would happen?

[@BIG-DIPPER-56]

My Hat's off to You ! ! ! Excellent Idea 🙂😎👍

[@BlackKnight-ll8qh]

I’m glad they featured yours Ron. We are all very interested in them. Are you willing to give some more info on them?

[@taofledermaus]

Sorry for taking so long to get them filmed for you.

[@RNG-999]

These rounds were surprisingly VERY effective and accurate! Was a joy to watch.

[@clearlakerain]

Everyone is wondering how I made these Excavator Slugs. So, I’ll give a full description of my method now. I’ve been trying to reply to each comment but it became overwhelming. My plan was to make a 1oz 12-gauge slug that dumped its energy asap. First, I selected pure lead because it was soft and would deform the fastest. Then I went to the hardware store with my caliper to find something to be the jacket. Copper is obvious but the closest diameter is 1/2'’ copper water pipe. They were just lacking in diameter and I rejected it. The female copper connectors were perfect in their outside diameter, so I bought a handful. I then melted pure lead and filled the 1 ½ inch long connector after figuring a way to cap the open bottom end. When the lead cooled, I could get two slugs out of one connector. I cut them in half using my band saw. Hollow points are a proven design for expanding bullets and I wasn’t going try anything different. I got the correct point by using my drill press and first drilling a ¼ inch hole ¾ the way through the slug. Then stepped up to a ½ inch drill bit and drilled ¼ the way through. To finish up I put a ½ inch rasp in my drill and reamed the top of each slug. Then I moved to the belt sander to sand away material making the slug pointed at the top. I had to wear leather gloves because of the heat build-up while sanding. The X on top is designed to open up the hollow point and peel it back relatively evenly from the point of the slug. I had no jig to hold the slug to the band saw table. I know the dangers of what I was doing but I was careful and hand held the slug while sawing through the lead and into the copper. My mind was totally on the cutting and not so much on placement of each cut. I reasoned that the small amount of instability from not having perfect symmetry to be insignificant relative to the total mass of the projectile. I was proven correct. Now that the expandable point was done, I moved onto the weight. A note here: all the while I am perfecting the slug design. I would run to the range to do some testing. For example. The depth to which I will cut these X’s was important for the peeling back of the nose. I would cut a few and load them up to see how well this worked. Eventually I figured to cut them 1/3 the way from tip towards the base. I even factored in the angle at which the copper cut would end at. After cutting the depth of the X. I returned to the band saw holding the slug 45’ to the table. Then added a small cut to taper the wall thickness. This was to allow the copper to rip further if needed. Instead of having the folding copper stop abruptly when it came up against the wall of full thickness connector. Cutting off the base by band saw just above the 1 oz weight, trimming further with the belt sander the slugs were getting close to being finished, but the weight still was not to my tolerances. Chamber pressure is affected by weight, so I drilled small amounts of lead off the base to get them all to be the same. My diameter was spot on using the hulls and shot-cups I had. I can’t tell you what Jeff used but he had some trouble here. Since I was using new 12-gauge ammo I didn’t have to weigh the powder charge. The ammo I used was prepared to push 1 1/8 oz of bird shot and did nicely with my 1 oz slugs. The hulls being already primed, all that was left to do was to put a quick role crimp on and we were done. With a little care anyone could do this in their garage or shop. It was a lot of fun for me, surprised Jeff and got the highest viewer response ever for the channel. (I believe). I spent 25 cents for each copper connector, $25- $30 for the role crimper and $5 for a box of 25 birdshot at Walmart. Big fun at a low price. Anyone with a 12-gauge shotgun that has choke tubes can get a choke tube with riflings. I used a Browning Uplands Game Bird BPS 12-gauge pump shotgun with an Invector rifled choke tube installed. Thanks to Jeff and all the gang at Taofledermaus. I now have slow motion of my slugs on ballistic Jelly. Ron Medcalf @ 72 years young

[@standingwhilepooping4685]

Cheers brother! They worked pretty damn well! 😀

[@clearlakerain]

@@standingwhilepooping4685 Thanks, my friend. I'll add to my description as a comment if people want to know more.

[@clearlakerain]

To make my slugs I needed to solve two problems. The first was to design a projectile which would expand rapidly. The second was stabilizing it in flight. The ballistic coefficient of a projectile is a number derived by an equation using three factors, the weight, the shape and cross-sectional density of the bullet. The higher the number the better it travels through the air, thus counteracting resistance by air and maintain its velocity. Normal bullet has a BC between 0.12 to 1.0. A shotgun slug, like mine, has such a high cross-sectional density as to make the BC almost zero. I didn’t have to worry about stability. I made sure it spun enough after leaving the barrel that gyroscopic stability would keep the slug stable. Even being asymmetrical with the flaws, I had no doubt the slugs would fly straight. Stability would be solved by using rifled choke tubes in my 12 gauge and a sabot around the slug. Expansion was solved by using 100% lead, hollow pointing the end and cutting an X into the hollow point. The slug peeled open like a banana once it made contact a water matrix. Water doesn’t compress and would force open the hollow point. The deep penetration was achieved by using thick copper jacket at the base, which stopped the expansion and held the last of the slug together. Experimentation lead to the correct depth to cut the Xs. That’s how I came up with what I call the Excavator 12 ga slug. If I make more, I will add a number behind the name to indicate the weight of the slug. The ones tested were 30gm, so they would be Excavator 30 or Excavator 1.05. I'm not that far into the future, unless someone wants to invest some venture capital.

[@bombomos]

You sir are what we young bloods call a Mad Lad. This slug are art!

[@gigabytegallery7305]

These slugs you have made have impressive power and accuracy to them 😃 I like that candy wrapper trick you had too 🤣 thank you for sharing your work with the community 😁

[@BeezyKing99]

props to the maker of today's batch of launchable Rolos... WAS SO not expecting them to come out of a Rolo pack, totally unexpected 🤣🤣

[@Oldmanwithagoldpan]

Obviously taking California REEEEEEEEEE Laws into account, figured they'd get across the comifornia socialist lines easier disguised as Rolos. Lol

[@mattmarzula]

I didn't expect them to perform the way they did. It's like when an ugly chick with a wrecked body rides athletically with enthusiasm.

[@ajtoofly7315]

Yea man halloween came early

[@maxhunter3574]

Wow, that's one heck of a wound cavity in the gel block!

[@GuyNamedSean]

I'm kinda interested to see what this would do to actual flesh. I know it'd get pulled down instantly, but I'd love to see this thing hit a pig carcass.

[@TheObeyMayhem]

@@GuyNamedSean center mass to the chest or the gut would be death.

[@mutum1]

@@GuyNamedSean I think paul harrel shoots cuts of pig in some of his videos with the flesh still attached and its pretty insightful

[@heywardmorgan7699]

Impressive slug, ugly round did a beautiful job, Put this one in the future home defense category. Need a couple more of these, lead plate test is a must if you do get more. 😉 As always, it's great seeing you guys. Have a wonderful week.

[@georgeau2523]

Looked like sin, kicked like the devil

[@wren7195]

I was hatefully assigned my being a 22 rimfire when I was born... after a long, painfully difficult transition to 45 ACP, I FINALLY found validation to my entire existence as a Ron Medcalf Butterknife Division Copper augmented Slug. Before that, I had people online constantly mis-numering me as birdshot, penetraitor, *hides her face, sniffling* .....there was one evil, abhorrent bastard who dared to.... who.............*SNUFFLE* who said I was like a .177 LEAD pellet! The idea that rounds like me "don't exist" because people like TAO hatefully continue to consider us as "ugly" or "do not fit into legally required safety margins for firearm apparatus without dangerous risk of explosive malfunction" is so harmful and hateful to me, it makes me want to reconsider everything I've ever learned about being a projectile round. If it wasn't for people like Tao and "Officer" 'Geoff," I could finally fulfill my dream unimpeded by prejudice and oppression. I'd finally be "allowed" by all this supremacy to identify as the PVC slide-flute I was born to be.

[@matts9116]

These things are all about ease of manufacturing, the copper pipe jacket is the lead form lol

[@clearlakerain]

@@matts9116 // You are spot on when you said, "it's all about ease of manufacturing". I was trying to show people that anyone could make these with little effort. I was pleased to read your reply because it sums up the whole point of me trying to do as good as the so called expert ammo manufactures. I had no worry about them working, my gut told me it was a no-brainier. What I needed was a slow motion view of the impact. I could take exception to the rude nature Jeff had for me and what I made by only looking at the slugs outward appearance and judging them negatively. Sense I got the slow motion film, which is what I wanted, I didn't bring that up. Even during the testing when every round was proving accurate, the negative remarks continued. Even at the end Greg couldn't admit they were good shotgun slugs. I had never heard of being trolled. I looked it up and found another negative remark. Like you said, "it's all about ease of manufacturing". Thanks buddy, for giving me a chance to air my disappointment with Jeff and Greg,

[@matts9116]

@@clearlakerain yes sir, never let perfection be the enemy of good enough… seems like any exact dia. Could be accurately achieved by swedging out soft roll tubing…🤔

[@justinp2993]

Would you recommend these for shooting 'Chinese weather balloons' out of the air?

[@taofledermaus]

If they are low enough!

[@garyglenn5233]

Another cool video guys. The gel block slo-mo was extremely impressive. I don't think that I've ever seen a temporary cavity quite that big and violent. Keep it up guys. I love your vids.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Gary!@!

[@racker5108]

it's why Ron called them Excavators!

[@clearlakerain]

@@racker5108 // Yup !

[@DB-yj3qc]

@@racker5108 He definitely named them correctly.

[@g.w.customcreations3534]

@@DB-yj3qc nah he should've called them the "fuckerupperers" 🤣

[@michaelbrown2678]

That’s may have been ugly but that was bad ass round! The ballistic gel showed a devastating energy dump and opened up a hellish of a wound cavity!

[@Cog1123]

I dont want to imagine what a living thing would look like after that......we're a lot less uniform than the gel block

[@thedemolitionsexpertsledge5552]

@@Cog1123 Express ticket to a pine box six feet under, free of charge

[@ivanscottw]

I'm thinking that, those slugs might have looked funky - but might have actually been perfectly balanced : Make a random looking cross shaped groove at the front and the hole in the back is actually precisely carved to adjust, at least to give a perfect axial balance.. Just guessing !

[@mandowarrior123]

Yeah, you can roll them to check the balance. Interesting challenge. I think you're right.

[@clearlakerain]

I admit I drilled the back to make the weights equal 30gm. Your idea is good but I didn't think that far ahead..... Thx

[@taofledermaus]

It's possible!

[@clearlakerain]

Good point. I agree.

[@Joe___R]

At the velocity, those rounds are traveling, and the rotation from the rifling the slight imbalance didn't matter. 1oz of soft lead with a hallow point makes for some major energy transfer.

[@c4feg4r44]

Fun fact with the premier viewership you can fill just over 5 average sized movie theaters assuming a seating of 250.

[@HChandler2010]

Imagine if they charged 15$ a piece to watch

[@c4feg4r44]

@@HChandler2010 they would make just over 20k

[@FishFind3000]

@@HChandler2010 one KZbinr did that. He closed off his channel for all new content. It’s $15 a month and it’s all paywalled now.

[@idioticrehab6614]

@@FishFind3000 I think vsauce did that too

[@markfergerson2145]

@@idioticrehab6614 And here Jeff is trying to get people to stop donating. I know who I prefer to watch, and it's not just because I'm a po mo fo. Which reminds me... thanks to the Patreons who buy the powder and shells and gas and cameras that make this possible.

[@johnmassa6303]

Holly crap what a wound cavity. Those things are amazing. Another great video Jeff and Greg. Thanks for the wonderful entertainment. How do I get to your Patreon page?

[@taofledermaus]

Thanks John. I appreciate the offer for support but we are in pretty good shape right now. Enjoy!!

[@andrewc9790]

It'd be nice to have an explanation from the creator. Possibly, the point was to show that absolute precision is overrated and unnecessary when it comes to slugs???

[@VincentNajger1]

I guarantee that each hole and cut is exactly where he wanted it to be. Other than them being slightly oversized to fit a sabot, they're spot on.

[@dontworrybout2664]

He said he didn’t do it with rhyme or reason. Just to shave weight

[@carlubambi5541]

Looks like he used 1/2 inch copper end cap from copper plumbing as the base

[@hafsalinda]

Depends on what a 1/2" end cap measures at outside diameter.

[@aaronfuge3267]

I was just thinking the same thing. I’ve been meaning to go to Home Depot and I’m taking my calipers (or just try one of theirs) I love it when people find a new use for a common thing.

[@carlubambi5541]

@@aaronfuge3267 a 3/4!copper 9ne may be just right

[@carlubambi5541]

@@aaronfuge3267 12 gauge is somewhere around .71 to .79 of an inch in some guns !when you consider the slugs themselves are sometimes .69 of an inch

[@anthonybarker9123]

@@hafsalinda I'm thinking he used some 1/2" coupler and filled it with molten lead. Then just cut it in shorter sections. Had he used standard 1/2" tubing it would have worked better for shooting since it would have had a nominal OD of .625.

[@natecherek1713]

Awesome. Seeing some of these homemade homeruns is inspiring me to make something for yall to mach!! Good stuff, gents!

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

I was thinking of pykrete in a copper pipe of the correct size. Half inch copper pipe pressed out to the correct diameter with a ball bearing. Frozen with dry ice. Mix in Gallium for a 1-2 oz bullet. Or a tungsten carbide insert in the tail, old well drill roller cone tips.

[@ehrenkrause9861]

I believe the drill holes in the back are to take out mass so you can have consistent weight

[@clearlakerain]

Exactly right. Thanks for clearing that up.

[@alexkarlozi2174]

@@clearlakerain well done Ron

[@taofledermaus]

Most likely

[@mattmarzula]

Seems like consistency and balance would be a bigger priority.

[@pmacamfg7655]

@@mattmarzula could be for that too. Put in the saw cuts and see where they stop rolling, drill the hole in the back off center on the heavy side.

[@josephreisinger33]

You guys are the best. Great show as always. Danny would be proud.

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you Joseph

[@BullseyeBenR]

One of my favorite channels! Been watching for years and love every video!

[@taofledermaus]

thank you!

[@deweyharmon4666]

Another great video Jeff and OG! Those rounds to be so inconsistent in the tooling of them they shot pretty well! Thank you guys for another awesome video!

[@taofledermaus]

thank you again Dewey

[@robpayne1956]

I love the packaging. The results are surprising though.

[@mibo747]

Perfect presentation AS ALWAYS by TAOFLEDERMAUS!

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Mike

[@richarddixon7276]

Super interesting construction , they appear to be made from copper plumbers hot water pipe cut to length filled with molten lead and "machined" for weight consistency as opposed to aesthetic looks , or as You say a strange form of trolling , either way they certainly performed better than they looked . Thanks to Ron for sending them , OG and Yourself for taking the time to create this episode , as always the footage was spot on as was OG's eye with those slugs and the humour had Me chuckling every other sentence . Catch You next episode , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.

[@sisleymichael]

I started collecting lead years ago. I got some sheets of lead from demo of a dental clinic that closed down. I am set. I decided to find a used mold and make my own foster slugs. I got a 1 oz Lee mold. They have been working like a champ for many decades. You guys take slug shooting to the outer limits. It is crazy, fun, interesting, and highly entertaining. I always get some great laughter. Thanks. I was feeling down and now not so much.

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you Mike!

[@myfavoriteviewer306]

Some say the best tip to a successful channel is to treat every video as it's someone's first exposure to the topic, so don't be shy with explaining things with each video. So, for the potential new viewers it's a bit of an ongoing joke for OG to say he's aiming at a green triangle when it's really pink circles, as seen in this video 😁 Also, dang those things were surprising! Fun to watch too!

[@taofledermaus]

I have to remind myself to do that quite often because I assume most people know what I am talking about.

[@Baroque_Back_Mountain]

I’ve watched you guys test a million projectiles….from epoxy and screws to Pennie’s and giant Diablo pellet designs. These slugs are ridiculously accurate for hack sawed fishing weights. OUTSTANDING JOB by this creator. I’m actually inspired to send you some slugs of my own. What would be an ideal weight and diameter, for easy loading purposes. Ideally, I’d like for you, to be able to load a modified Diablo design, directly on top of a felt wad.

[@taofledermaus]

.675" is the diameter we'd like. Weight can be 6 grams to over 50 grams

[@jessehanson8928]

Can't believe I caught this live, freakin awesome! 😎

[@Nanan00]

Hmm, 1/2" copper pipe has a nominal OD of .625", that is likely what he used then filled with melted tire weights etc.

[@devildog17013]

WOW! The energy dump on the gel block was ridiculous! I thought the same as you, Jeff, when I first saw those rounds. I guess I may have to change my mind about them. I would love to see Ron (?) send you another batch at spec, to see how they do from a sabot. Great video. Thank you.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@thatguybrody4819]

Ugly as sin but surprising results. reminds me of a certain firearm made in Ohio. i was not ready for that Gel block slo-mo. you'd think it was going to tear itself apart. dang Ron made one hell of a slug. makes me wonder what his Knives are like.

[@Jesses001]

From the design I expected them to do serous damage, and they did, but I did not expect them to be nearly as accurate. Also even though I expected serious damage, that gel test was one of the biggest booms I have seen from a 12ga round.

[@calebbuchert3249]

I can't argue with the results. The slug going through and out a couple inches and remaining inside the block of material afterward demonstrated some science that I have never seen before.

[@casperhito]

"If you have Kevlar covered turds you live in a bad neighborhood." Officer Greg is hilarious as always.

[@carlubambi5541]

Fantastic as always gentlemen .I finished casting some slugs .Have a few more to make and will send you some

[@boo-leeproductionsinc3501]

Holy smokes, that wound channel is insane, nothing could survive that entering the body.

[@bruceday6799]

How come no one doing these gel block shots uses a scale stick beside the block stage? It could be black and white or whatever color suits you. Even a ruler taped to the table would be something. I enjoy these myth and legends kinda things. Keep it up.

[@hardwurkindaddy]

Probably because they have a chronograph and don't need it.

[@bruceday6799]

@@hardwurkindaddy My lack of clarity is evident. A VERTICAL scale measure is what I meant to convey. That would let us have a sense of scale on the temporary cavity size. My mistake.

[@leifvejby8023]

How long is that block, 1/7 of a school bus width?

[@martinh1437]

@@bruceday6799 about the size of a melon, a large melon.

[@longlowdog]

@@martinh1437 2.97 Imperial cabbages. Or 3 Whitworth.

[@supergeek1418]

An excellent video proving (once again) that *rifling* makes *EVERYTHING* better. Because *SCIENCE* !!!

[@taofledermaus]

lol

[@crankygunreviews]

Definitely weird “design” but sometimes like Evan’s slugs, they don’t have to make sense to work.

[@daniel_f4050]

As always listening to your and OG’s banter is more fun than seeing the slug’s performance. I’m still hoping to see one of the amazing machinists out there send y’all an honest to Rheinmetall APFSDS slug. It’s got to be possible even if the engineering is rocket surgery level.

[@Critter145]

3:05 Thats the most ironic thing for a police officer to wear. I love it. All the best from Tennessee!

[@OGsDangerShow]

Gets yours from the merch shelf on OG’s Danger Show.

[@Critter145]

@@OGsDangerShow Thank you, Sir!

[@disturbedmaynard3873]

It dawned on me during this video, that OG's shirt says Nobody is coming, it is up to you, which I take to mean that law enforcement is not coming when you call, so you are on your own. So, since OG is a law enforcement officer, when Jeff calls him to come do a video, is he surprised when OG actually shows up? Inquiring minds want to know

[@JimYeats]

Inquiring mind*. One inquiring mind wants to know.

[@taofledermaus]

He is very reliable. Often he is out there before I get there.

[@palerider7171]

Wasn’t “Wales aren’t Whales nor are they a country! “ the name of OG 80’s Celtic punk band 1st album? I am wondering if the creator of this was trying to prove “Slugs don’t have to be precision made, perfectly symmetrical or balance to be effective🤔

[@TrumpedUp888]

I saw that truck traveling behind ya and thought, "Who the hell would be entering a gun range from the burm end"?

[@MrJudder413]

Love the "FIRST" ppl 😆 like winning silver in the special Olympics

[@dominicsondrini3099]

Holy Canoli! I caught another TFM live stream that is like getting hit by lightning bugs twice! God bless us everyone

[@TheRhinestoneHurricane]

Nice going Ron, welcome to the brotherhood of bullets

[@johnkilcer]

Paper patching works well too. I do it for my Martini Henry and Snider rifle

[@victorbitter583]

What do you use in the Henry?

[@warrenharrison9490]

I was thinking the same, but was surprised when he used the aluminum foil tape.

[@Backyardmech1]

My guess for the holes drilled out of the bases were for weight reduction to whatever the maker was looking for.

[@andrewdobosz3682]

You guys may have already done this idea, but, maybe some fishing sinkers of the correct diameter might work. Thanks for the great content as usual!

[@taofledermaus]

I've looked online for interesting sinkers, but they never say what the dimensions are, just the weight

[@satagaming9144]

@@taofledermaus Nothing a hammer can't fix

[@maleindividual7437]

Iraqveteran88's channel used a 1oz egg weight on a lost arts video i believe, if its slightly too big just scuff it up like a chewed ball, I bet it would squash to size or saw a bunch of grooves in maybe?

[@tonyennis1787]

Perhaps the knifemaker guy was making a statement about precision.

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

I'm curious what .70 caliber slug he cut into two or three pieces? Being that it was a copper jacketed, something, I highly doubt he made super thin copper shells and then filled them full of lead. It's possible, but doubtful.

[@warrenharrison9490]

Some of the refrigeration copper is thinner than plumbing, because it's only gasses, wonder if that's the copper sleeve.

[@clearlakerain]

I used the female connector for 1/2" copper water pipe , then plugged the bottom and filled with liquid lead (pure).

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

@@clearlakerain Ah, I see! that explains the .70 OD for the copper part.

[@alexkarlozi2174]

Ron responded to someone’s comment after yours and answered your question in that reply. Ron said that he used 1/2” copper end caps used in plumbing as a mold, then filled them with soft pure lead. The drill marks on the back of the slugs we’re done to keep the weights more consistent

[@markjenkins6424]

Not sure if the consistency in the scoring matters as much as being consistently spin stabilized!

[@jameslowe3792]

Nice, ugly but effective... Very effective. Great video Jeff.

[@JordanManfrey]

i bet the asymmetry makes them go crazy when they hit anything but it's manageable enough with the centripetal force of rifling in flight

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Jim!!

[@joeg.9536]

So far this is the best slug you've shot (aside from that Welsh "71").

[@toddabbott781]

These are short rounds. You could mimic an Aguila 1.75" shell. Those typically have a lighter charge, but I would love to see some with something more akin to a full sized round and charge... then load 25 into a Kel-Tec KSG for some fun.

[@jeremiahwasabullfrog5281]

Can you guys test bacon strips shot out of a 12 gauge? Grew up with stories of a farmer using this supposed to hurt.

[@asdfjoe123]

Slugs from the bowchette guy! By golly, it works!

[@mky45lg]

That dove mug is 100% a gift from OG's mother-in-law. I know that because it's exactly like something my former mother-in-law would have given me😆.

[@dannoshankles2202]

This goofy viewer thanks you 2 goofy guys for the great job y'all done absolutely love these videos keep up the great work. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILYS.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Danno!

[@roccoelleto9900]

Me thinks Ron has been making these for himself for quite some time. That energy transfer was tremendous.

[@Steve-sd7wk]

Franken-slugs sounds like the techno reggae metal banjo quartet OG lead in the mid 80's.

[@moefuggerr2970]

Hit the rugby bat right on the orange fish triangle,

[@jakekenobi8826]

So many gems. “He used some kind of precision instrument” “Sure, like a butter knife” “Everything needs spin these days. Get it in your news get it in your slugs” “Planning to stop Patreon.” “What? Are you high!?” 😂😂😂 Dying

[@papaown]

Cmon that was harsh hahah a guy sends you meme rounds and since he didnt give a whole lot of thought to the rounds - "I wonder what his knives look like?" 😀

[@taofledermaus]

I was trying to convey my actual reactions when I first saw these!

[@cameronhawkins3006]

"What?! Are you high?!" -OG

[@darinroodman2004]

"See if I can talk Greg into shooting these things"... Jeff, like you even had to ASK him. You probably just said "Hey Greg, I got a new slu..." *Greg packing up the truck for the range sounds*

[@oddshot60]

Don't I remember a movie ... I think it was called "The Bear". In it some old coot with a ginormous rifle of some kind NEEDED to kill this big ol' bear. So he carved a big ugly "X" in the end of these big bullets to do it with. Kinda looked like these slugs.

[@brycearmstrong2891]

Goddammit, Wyoming and Colorado are complete opposites. ....oh your trolling me, never mind...

[@Adam-nv9zo]

That's a nasty slug. The gel test was extraordinary.

[@howa08]

Whales aren't fish

[@DFHellscare]

I've seen you do welds to ball bearings, but have you tried a caltrop projectile? Like a flechette with an extremely shortened tip and different wing pattern. The grouping in the load would be tight so a duck choke may help. Just an idea.

[@vandercudo]

It's sad you have to write when you are joking. But apparently people can't take a joke anymore. EDIT: But when you said you are trying to get rid of patreon subs i couldn't tell if you were joking or not.

[@codyv308]

Greg's shirt is very ominous

[@dougalexander7204]

Excellent. I enjoy how any and everything sent to you get a fair shot at testing. Makes me believe I could scrap out the crud behind the stove and pack it tight and you guys would blow the nubb’ns off a gummy bear.

[@blarghchan]

looks like they filled a copper pipe full of molten lead, then sliced it up and shaped the front.

[@ZP1993]

I think in Red Dead Redemption 2 you can make hollow points by carving X across the tip of the regular (I assume unjacketed lead) bullets with a knife. I once tried making the same kind of hollowpoints out of wadcutter airgun pellets,but I never tested them on anything other than paper targets,would be cool to see how they perform on gel compared to normal wadcutters and factory made hollowpoints.

[@prestonmonaghan499]

Lineen paper and use that as the sabot. Wet it, wrap around the projectiles leaving the overlap going over the base, and twist it 3 or 4 wraps and let dry. Known as a paper patch. I used this technique to fire 7 mm bullets in a 30/06 after reading Ross Seyfried write about it long ago. It worked

[@ronniewatts9110]

I would like to see when you shoot the gummy bear or something similar with a round made to fragment... That you would put kevlar a couple feet behind it so you you can see the pieces of the slug... I enjoy your content, so keep it up... Thanks

[@Tex1680]

This takes an old concept from the cowboy days.... They are called dumdum bullets... just crosses cuts in the lead to make them fragment upon impact. It looks like he just took some copper pipe and filled it with lead.

[@steeldriver1776]

It's almost like this self defense round combined strengths from different rounds. There will be the higher velocity of a slug, but, the cuts force it to mushroom out faster like a hollow point, and/or break and frag out like the contents of buckshot.

[@notaregistereduser3446]

I'm disappointed you guys trashed talked these so much before trying them. I was very interested in how a rustic slug would perform and could be made without lathe and milling machines

[@clearlakerain]

Well said.

[@taofledermaus]

It was all first impression and in good fun

[@TheGeekiestGuy]

Damn, O.G. you been eating some of them flaming hot Cheeto's, bud? You good some red on you. 🤣🤙🏽

[@andrewwillmott28]

Odd lookin, but good performance... and the slugs were not too bad either :) Thanks guys!

[@taofledermaus]

lol

[@Der_Diskriminator]

Awesome videos! I realy would like to know the story behind the channel name. Can anybody explain?

[@КИРАХЛЕБАЛИНА]

Экспансивность сумашедшая а вот на точность не показали...12метров это ерунда, 25-50метров покажите какая точность пули.

[@everhope6364]

Can't believe O.G doesn't know the difference between a blue cross and a green triangle, It's like fish and Wales all over again😂

[@tony66au]

"Lots of viewers suggested we put something black behind it" :-) I bet they did, I bet they did lol

[@bunnykiller]

actually did rather okay for being roughly made

[@drewledbetter526]

I am very concerned about the safety of anyone involved in this video. Do you have a licence to administer high velocity galena minerals to a unsuspecting teddy bear? I thought not.

[@raulduke7142]

Ouch. That'd blow a hole in a sahmb!t*h. Did not expect that wound cavity. 😳

[@donaldbarden6294]

Some of my best performing mods on 2-stroke outboards look as podunk as those slugs. Don't judge on looks!

[@neilsimpson79]

I need the design a slug. Not sure if I should print it out of nylon or make a mould and cast them. That expansion in the gel was absolutely brutal.

[@unbekannternr.1353]

Very nice homemade slug, pour molten lead into copper tubing of proper size, cut them to wanted length and they shoot fine!

[@KXKKX]

Put a tarp down on the ground so clear gelatin block has a clean surface to land on when it inevitably jumps off the table.

[@goldenwheeledbanshee9160]

Thank u Ron 4 sending those slugs. Officer Greg did a awesome job shooting an Jeff has his camera skills on high. U guys rocked this video. 10/10 on it. Sorry I'm late again no notification from KZbin. But boy oh boy them slugs hit with authority big time authority! Thank u guy's 4 making this an always doing a great job.

[@taofledermaus]

thankS!!

[@pantherplatform]

OMG you shot down that red and white striped structure down range!

[@travisk5589]

That pigeon shot was like watching Teds Holdover

[@Christianos_Theophile]

Very Old West, like how they would cut X's into the nose of a bullet. Seems like it works pretty well 👍

[@Fyoutube444]

Actually pigeons can be trained and are definitely smarter than jellyfish.

[@myfavoritemartian1]

We have been paper patching bullets for a hundred years. I was expecting to see the lead plate....