For anyone who didn't know, when Frederick Douglass talked about the photos, he was bragging about how he was the most photographed person in the 18th century
@cortes2j3 жыл бұрын
He was born in the 19th century…
@nicolasdiaz15423 жыл бұрын
@@cortes2j yes, you're right. Thats my mistake
@Discojericho3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasdiaz1542 Its not like there was a more photogenic or photographed person in the 18th century so you are fine.
@MichellePaulette793 жыл бұрын
How many people from the 19th century can you look at their photos, and they have a style that would not be completely out of place even today. Ahead of his time in so many ways.... even fashion! I do wish that somewhere in this rap battle were his words to the youth in his own Time.. Agitate, agitate, agitate! Which I personally think is great advice! Yet another reason this man was so far ahead of his time.
@cortes2j3 жыл бұрын
@@MichellePaulette79 about four…
@EpoxyResin-x3s4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember this part of Hamilton
@lucascurio83454 жыл бұрын
Because in real life Hamilton and his wife were big slave owners, Douglas would whoop their arses.
@EpoxyResin-x3s4 жыл бұрын
@@lucascurio8345 that's a #bruhmoment if I do say so myself
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
@@lucascurio8345 Douglas won't even need something like that since Hamilton destroyed his own reputation which prevented him from ever becoming president. Got this from Wikipedia: Hamilton is not known to have ever owned slaves, although members of his family were slave owners. At the time of her death, Hamilton's mother owned two slaves named Christian and Ajax, and she had written a will leaving them to her sons; however, due to their illegitimacy, Hamilton and his brother were held ineligible to inherit her property, and never took ownership of the slaves. Later, as a youth in St. Croix, Hamilton worked for a company trading in commodities that included slaves. During his career, Hamilton did occasionally purchase or sell slaves for others as their legal representative, and one of Hamilton's grandsons interpreted some of these journal entries as being purchases for himself. By the time of Hamilton's early participation in the American Revolution, his abolitionist sensibilities had become evident. Hamilton was active during the Revolution in trying to raise black troops for the army, with the promise of freedom. In the 1780s and 1790s, he generally opposed pro-slavery southern interests, which he saw as hypocritical to the values of the American Revolution. In 1785, he joined his close associate John Jay in founding the New-York Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves, and Protecting Such of Them as Have Been, or May be Liberated, the main anti-slavery organization in New York. The society successfully promoted the abolition of the international slave trade in New York City and passed a state law to end slavery in New York through a decades-long process of emancipation, with a final end to slavery in the state on July 4, 1827. At a time when most white leaders doubted the capacity of blacks, Hamilton believed slavery was morally wrong and wrote that "their natural faculties are as good as ours." Unlike contemporaries such as Jefferson, who considered the removal of freed slaves (to a western territory, the West Indies, or Africa) to be essential to any plan for emancipation, Hamilton pressed for emancipation with no such provisions. Hamilton and other Federalists supported Toussaint Louverture's revolution against France in Haiti, which had originated as a slave revolt. Hamilton's suggestions helped shape the Haitian constitution. In 1804 when Haiti became the Western Hemisphere's first independent state with a majority of the population being black, Hamilton urged closer economic and diplomatic ties.
@lucascurio83454 жыл бұрын
jp3813 holy shit nice paragraph dude
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
@@lucascurio8345 It ain't mine. lol
@rebeccad96353 жыл бұрын
"and I ceased being an alien to your unalienable rights" holy fucking shit dawg
@hephsmith37383 жыл бұрын
400 likes to the Meme Master!
@JeiHeirumaru3 жыл бұрын
“And ‘we the people’ stopped meaning ‘we the people…who are white’ “
@janverfaillie89433 жыл бұрын
0:18 "I'm endowed with certain unalienable skills"
@theasexualidiot48032 жыл бұрын
@@janverfaillie8943 bro dug his own grave in one his first verses
@theasexualidiot48032 жыл бұрын
Dude just burned him at the stake like the Roman’s did to the Catholics.
@minecraftsteve2504 Жыл бұрын
"YOU LET FREEDOM RING BUT DIDN'T PICK UP THE PHONE MAN" I love it. Douglas came out not seeking violence, but seeking the truth.
@GoingToAFuneral Жыл бұрын
YOO YOU GOT A HEART CONGRATS
@minecraftsteve2504 Жыл бұрын
@@GoingToAFuneral honestly I wasn't anticipating it Really threw me off guard when I saw it in my notifications Much love to the boys behind erb
@weego2585 Жыл бұрын
@@minecraftsteve2504they really are good guys ngl.
@wldnrkls Жыл бұрын
you didn't even get the quote right with the video right in front of you
@greasemaster Жыл бұрын
Ggs
@arielcahn77283 жыл бұрын
"You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" I come back to this battle for this line. Genius.
@lokitmg41233 жыл бұрын
Clever line
@neraka-z4n3 жыл бұрын
Even better when you realize that Fredrick Douglas lived long enough to see the invention of the telephone.
@toodmorales84623 жыл бұрын
I’m happy I was the guy to provide you with 1k, cause I agreeeeeee
@datguymiller3 жыл бұрын
Also made sure former president Jefferson was finished with his rap
@flappynautintheocean88243 жыл бұрын
@@lokitmg4123 can't be tamed bros
@portalmasterjake52673 жыл бұрын
dude i just got, "you died on the 4th of july, its a very important holiday, but what the fuck does it mean to this guy?" he wrote a speech called, "what is the 4th of july to a slave" wack
@neilpemberton55233 жыл бұрын
It is possibly his best speech ever.
@distaffpope26033 жыл бұрын
@@neilpemberton5523 It's such fire
@senoritarat95203 жыл бұрын
DAMNNN
@droid3273 жыл бұрын
Ironically, in that speech he actually quotes Jefferson decrying the evil of slavery
@ssj2camaro213 жыл бұрын
Well seems like we have that same issue today with BLM.
@rocky46295 жыл бұрын
“Ah Fredrick I’ve never heard a verse I Doug Less” that line was so corny i ended up laughing too hard.
@Nayhan1234 жыл бұрын
epiphany you got likes thought I'd tell you
@rocky46294 жыл бұрын
aaron bacchus i know that
@michaelgiffen75414 жыл бұрын
I hate that I didn't get that until I saw this
@drewwatkins30534 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgiffen7541 same lmao
@sephiroth245924 жыл бұрын
I was in the shower when I realized that was a pun....
@Hei_Darkfire Жыл бұрын
1:23 Can we just appreciate how much effort ERB puts into these. They took 7 shots of the guy playing Frederick instead of just copying and pasting one shot into all of the photos. That is real dedication.
@greasemaster Жыл бұрын
It sure is
@ServerYT Жыл бұрын
> That is real dedication. HEADS FOR RACIST TAILS FOR SLAVE PLANTATION
@clickthisforawsomnes Жыл бұрын
They do things like this in every rap. Theres always eye candy and small things you can spot in the background. You can tell they love their craft
@what_s_that_question_mark Жыл бұрын
@@clickthisforawsomnes And we love 'em too!
@agc2757 Жыл бұрын
It's also real muggin'
@noahkelly36274 жыл бұрын
The line “not to mention third president” line is so subtle but very clever. Jefferson didn’t consider being president a real big accomplishment in his life. On his tombstone, it mentions other accomplishments (writing the Declaration of Independence, writing the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom, and founding the University of Virginia) but does not mention him being president at all because he didn’t really see it as that important
@jeremytewari33464 жыл бұрын
That whole concluding verse of his accomplishments followed by “the fuck’d you do?” is so powerful
@andyknightwarden97464 жыл бұрын
@@caden7745 Agreed.
@IsaTehGothicMando4 жыл бұрын
@@caden7745 Its a battle, Jefferson's remarks amounted to "Im gonna brag about everything I've done" and "You look silly" ,and then apologizing his entire second verse, you're crazy to think he took this. Douglas threw everything he said back in his face, called him not only a racist, but a gigantic hypocrite whose greatest accomplishments ring hollow because he didnt back it up with his actions,
@justahyundai4 жыл бұрын
@@caden7745 Douglass second verse completely and utterly destroyed Jefferson no doubt
@MonsterIcee4 жыл бұрын
IsaTehGothicMando yeah but I think Noah is appreciating what the creators gave Jefferson. Given his insults must have been limited, similar to hulk vs jenner
@tadstrange14655 жыл бұрын
I love how legitimately pissed Fredrick Douglass seems here.
@MrLoukato5 жыл бұрын
I mean it's a slave owner vs a former slave. Considering how stuff was back then and all he went through, I feel like he has a right to be pissed.
@TheHenrydu5 жыл бұрын
ikr, has to be too, with their parody on NWA, nigga does have an attitude
@tadstrange14655 жыл бұрын
Rohunt Yeah it's great acting on this guy's part
@samiryeahman70055 жыл бұрын
Tad Strange is that a gravity falls character I see????
@nathanseper87385 жыл бұрын
There is nothing more powerful than righteous fury.
@ShmeengusDingus2 жыл бұрын
Frederick’s Last Verse: “I’m not mad, I’m just horribly disappointed in you.”
@function00772 жыл бұрын
This is the parental dagger to the heart line.
@kumba7132 жыл бұрын
@@function0077 true
@Zeke14602 жыл бұрын
Douglass’s lines about “the 4th of July is an important holiday but what does it mean to this guy?” Is referring to a speech he gave about the 4th of July. Basically in that speech he discussed how the 4th of july is when america celebrates freedom and liberation but at the same time they continued to enslave black people, so the 4th of July was just a reminder of enslavement for black people.
@emlynselene10962 жыл бұрын
Here to add on it's called "What, to a slave, is the 4th of July?"
@dilloncasey11942 жыл бұрын
It’s also taking a shot at Jefferson who had 6 babies with his slave only 4 survived she had a choice though to be free in France or return to America with Jefferson she chose to go with him as long as long as her children would become free when they turn 21 which Jefferson never did until he died on the 4th of July 1826
@phillipsnichole28572 жыл бұрын
'... But what does it mean to this guy... ' well, CTFD. Doesn't it stand to reason that speeches like the one you refer to are meant to set the frame work in the mind of people of that time? Instant gratification of fast societal change is not a reasonable expectation. Change is slow. Speeches are made to inspire thought and debate.
@gandalf_thegrey Жыл бұрын
@@dilloncasey1194 I mean, not really unexpected the 2 out of 6 babies die. I would even go as far an claim thats a pretty good ratio for the time
@grendal113 Жыл бұрын
To be fair. Stayed on the plantation has a real meaning for cowards.
@sabercat21785 жыл бұрын
>”I’m so down with revolutions I invented the swivel chair” >google >HE ACTUALLY INVENTED THE SWIVEL CHAIR
@penisparker51725 жыл бұрын
Thomas is a savage
@TheLibermania5 жыл бұрын
The Simpsons already taught us that.
@Korfman5 жыл бұрын
They don't call it Epic Rap Battles of HISTORY for nothing.
@Stazmanian5 жыл бұрын
Damn boi
@vivaciousmyosotis5 жыл бұрын
Saber Cat I don’t get that line
@ra_mry30624 жыл бұрын
Okay but no one is talking about “founding absentee father”
@ItRemindMeOfHome4 жыл бұрын
Because his family to this day refuses to talk about it
@jazzyprince33354 жыл бұрын
THERE'S TOO MUCH WORDPLAY!!!!!!!!!!
@imanuelgonzalez28534 жыл бұрын
Because he said it to fast and it didn't really connect or rhyme with the previous sentence.
@elaovi4 жыл бұрын
Because he raped and impregnated a slave woman
@jesseberg32714 жыл бұрын
@@elaovi in some ways, he and Hemmings lived like a married couple, and when she was given her freedom by the French (before they had had children) she chose to go back to Virginia with him, which meant going back into slavery. This is NOT a defense of Jefferson. The fact that he could still participate in the institution of slavery while in that kind of relationship with a black woman makes him (in a way) more monstrous than someone who saw slaves as little different from livestock. He knew these were people, no different than him, and he did what he did anyway.
@bestnumber_72255 жыл бұрын
Just noticed Jefferson say “I’ve never heard a verse I dug less” Douglass
@saltyonions92685 жыл бұрын
I would have never caught that
@oliverholland12055 жыл бұрын
How did it take you this long 😂😂
@verZatile_bmotp5 жыл бұрын
"Aw Frederick , I've never heard a verse I dug less" (Douglas) Word play on 100!
@k4nj1kun835 жыл бұрын
Also “This ain’t Louisiana man, I ain’t buying it.” I think we all know what purchases Jefferson made
@samwalker31655 жыл бұрын
Oh. Mah. Gawd. I have watched this several times and never realised 😀
@generaljesus7669 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy cause I feel like Jeffferson"s first verse was absolutely lethal: he just had the wrong opponent
@philiphockenbury656311 ай бұрын
The first verse was fantastic. It’s just that he’s fighting THE Black Abolitionist. So Jefferson was set up to get dunked on.
@erobertwicker9 ай бұрын
@@philiphockenbury6563Agreed. Imagine if it was Thomas Jefferson vs John Adams or something like that, they ultimately were friends but disagreed on a many great things. I think Lloyd could’ve played a great Adams in my opinion.
@TG-om1ue7 ай бұрын
They had to give Jefferson an opponent he basically couldnt beat, because if it was literally anyone else he wouldve fucking crushed them. He just did too much to not clown on anyone except for the dude who was a slave, got free and became a famous Abolitionist
@UmbreonMessiah7 ай бұрын
In almost any other context, Jefferson's first verse would have ended the whole battle. Almost nobody can stand up to the things he accomplished in his life. ...but across from him is one of the only people with the knowledge, the know-how and the credentials to do just that.
@TG-om1ue7 ай бұрын
@UmbreonMessiah it's basically impossible to beat Douglass because of what he did with his life. Beyond making fun of his looks and calling him basically a narcissist (both of which Jefferson does) there isn't anything else you can touch. You could probably put anyone against Douglass and the result would be a loss
@8h7233 жыл бұрын
“1st Secretary of State, VP number 2, not to mention 3rd President.” I like how that is in Numerical Order
@Clangdon01483 жыл бұрын
1, 2, 3, that seems right
@오렌지-y9o3 жыл бұрын
@@Clangdon0148 that’s not a question
@ivanthehunter35303 жыл бұрын
Ocd has been satisfied* ...... For now*
@masonwoods3193 жыл бұрын
Another fun little fact, the “not to mention” pet is because it isn’t listed on his tombstone that he was president of the United States. Wack.
@baseballguy01253 жыл бұрын
And chronological
@aaronjohnson16475 жыл бұрын
They fit a whole semester of high school history in 3 min
@gunargundarson16265 жыл бұрын
Another reason why the current education system is whack.
@notlogical40164 жыл бұрын
@@gunargundarson1626 yee yee
@inactiveuserakashahb32014 жыл бұрын
@@gunargundarson1626 hee hee
@justsomeguy10144 жыл бұрын
No Lollygagging the system WACK, the teachers WACK, the school WACK, the textbooks WACK
@notlogical40164 жыл бұрын
Yosuru Shi it doesn’t, the school system just forces it on you for a semester. Because the schools are dumb
@ChairmanLor2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The dude who plays Douglas in this battle is J.B. Smoove, who also plays one of Peter Parker's teachers in the new Spiderman movies.
@Rygoat2 жыл бұрын
and "Leon Black" from Curb Your Enthusiasm
@SkiggsMoDiggs2 жыл бұрын
I thought he looked familiar
@weirdcarpetthing972 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah he’s that witches guy
@jons_74022 жыл бұрын
He's also the barber in Everybody Hates Chris.
@chattaboxxx23322 жыл бұрын
This. This right fucking here. This made my week.
@Aiden_Jomanski Жыл бұрын
Douglas was so powerful, that Jefferson spent his whole second verse trying to make peace with him
@Hokum68 ай бұрын
First and only time in an ERB. Feels wrong.
@luckii.__178 ай бұрын
@@Hokum6 I think he should've been like "yeah I did that so what", even though he wasn't really like that irl I guess.
@TG-om1ue7 ай бұрын
@@luckii.__17 The problem is he basically cant attack Frederick Douglass on anything besides what he did in the first verse. Douglass is like the ultimate rap battle trump card because you cant really make fun of the guy who spent his whole life talking about how bad slavery was. Had Jefferson had literally anyone else as an opponent he would win easily
@duongnguyen-mb3rp4 ай бұрын
@@luckii.__17 too bad he was rapping agains Douglass of all people cause if he said that, it would just make things worse for him
@charlescollier72172 ай бұрын
Frederick Douglass is quietly the best orator in American history.
@tiny999904 жыл бұрын
I felt that Thomas Jefferson flowed better... but Frederick was spitting truth with passion so I gotta give it to him.
@nimvvv84674 жыл бұрын
True
@PsychCaptain3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@angelfloress50633 жыл бұрын
@@PsychCaptain Naw douglass was being a bit too cocky and using his race to his advantage. If this wasn’t on youtube, a leftist organization, Jefferson would’ve won.
@michaelmooney19143 жыл бұрын
@@angelfloress5063 KZbin isn't an organization, it's a public forum.
@angelfloress50633 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmooney1914 Yes it is.
@thedonutqueen64547 жыл бұрын
"So down with revolution, I invented the swivel chair," I love that line.
@bobateacafe57927 жыл бұрын
The DonutQueen “this ain’t Louisiana I aint buying it” I LAUGHED SO HARD IN HISTORY
@gumunduringigumundsson93447 жыл бұрын
The DonutQueen it is sweet 🍀🌏💜
@MarleyMan8507 жыл бұрын
Fredrick Went IceCube
@ashlynnnfairchild33557 жыл бұрын
I thought that was Ben Franklin
@AJSLV20027 жыл бұрын
Yh well it didn't mention Alexander Hamilton who was actually one of the main people in the American revolution doo...
@JacobRy4 жыл бұрын
best flow: Jefferson best disses: Douglass overall winner: swivel chair
@deadpan9044 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro, I'll drink to that!
@lordeverett56424 жыл бұрын
Rock And Roll Guru I concur
@kfg4524 жыл бұрын
How original.
@therealplaguerat4 жыл бұрын
@@kfg452 I agree but whatever
@diabtozy_the_realest4 жыл бұрын
What about Thomas Jeffersons.Stone face?
@SirToaster93302 жыл бұрын
“This ain’t Louisiana, man I ain’t buying it” I love this, it’s a reference to when Thomas bought the Louisiana territory from Napoleon
@Thespikedballofdoom Жыл бұрын
thanks, I somehow never caught that
@IsaaacWithThreeA Жыл бұрын
“How dare you adress moi, you adolescent worm.”
@CA.papaBear Жыл бұрын
@@IsaaacWithThreeA Damn it I read it and instead of reading it mentally with a normal voice instead in my head I read it as though I mentally sounded like Napoleon Bonaparte.
@IsaaacWithThreeA Жыл бұрын
@@CA.papaBear This bastard’s about to see how bad a battle can be.
@joannnuneza4919 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who saw it.
@philliptivis30823 жыл бұрын
Jefferson has an amazing first verse. The flow, the disses...it's quite a strong start...and then Douglas shuts it down with 3 words: "You finished? Okay..."
@Salsuero2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Very much an underrated opening in context by Douglas.
@MintyCoffee2 жыл бұрын
Jefferson doesn’t have any disses in most of his first verse and none in his second xd
@MonsieurDijon2 жыл бұрын
not really no, but ok
@xanderzelef97572 жыл бұрын
@@MintyCoffee he kinda does
@justanotheranimeprofilepic2 жыл бұрын
He had the balls to stop Jeffersons flow instead of just turning it around
@alredir4 жыл бұрын
"This ain't Louisiana man, I ain't buyin' it." Hah, Jefferson did the Louisiana Purchase.
@anywaythewindblows89124 жыл бұрын
Right lol
@jaxmatthews27484 жыл бұрын
OMG I NEVER REALIZED THAT
@MrJoeylj4 жыл бұрын
Hidden fact
@maxfieldjoyner52443 жыл бұрын
I realized that after like 30 watches of this rap. That is embarrassing.
@lokitmg41233 жыл бұрын
I just now realized this. At first I didn't get the reference but now that we're learning about this in history I actually understand.
@sine-spike3 жыл бұрын
Ok but can we talk about how hilarious Jefferson’s facial expressions are throughout both of Frederick’s verses. He’s just like “Yikes, he’s right”
@TheWarriorofHonor3 жыл бұрын
more like "damn how do i get out of this??" XD
@MattBnl2ih2 жыл бұрын
Oppenheimer had the same exact expressions yet he still managed to say “fuck this guilt trip, this is a god damn rap battle”
@X-351732 жыл бұрын
Had to re watch and focus on them but yeah they were great lmao.
@Sailorbyday2 жыл бұрын
Not about every thing. He was kinda wrong on some so
@thetruth-hl7ct2 жыл бұрын
I think it was more like "Is that even English?"
@jeffreydudgeon4579 Жыл бұрын
Those last two lines, "I ain't denying your fame I'm just saying they need to put an asterisk next to your name" Perfectly encapsulates this video
@rach2111 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Jefferson would agree.
@HookCamper Жыл бұрын
An asterisk meaning what? I thought that line was left vague so the viewer could add their own meaning to the meaninglessness, like Kanye lyrics.
@jeffreydudgeon4579 Жыл бұрын
@@HookCamper that Jefferson, despite all his high minded ideals of freedom, was a slave-owner. So I thought the line was pretty straight forward.
@ramen2192 Жыл бұрын
@@HookCamper asterisks in writing usually mean that there are caveats or more context to add to the situation
@spuriouslathos25183 ай бұрын
@@HookCamper you gotta try reeeeeeeal hard to miss the point that badly.
@paulpardee5 жыл бұрын
"when I stopped being an alien to your inalienable rights" Jesus Christ that hit hard!
@carlitojaunito22695 жыл бұрын
Paul Pardee suffer I made it uneven
@trappout31044 жыл бұрын
900th like
@AacaL054 жыл бұрын
Paul Pardee I really liked that line
@JoeJohnson-fc5wr4 жыл бұрын
I liked the other one. "When we the people stopped meaning we the people who are white." That one really struck me.
@klaud73114 жыл бұрын
*unalienable
@mariaesthervillanueva7294 жыл бұрын
"You let freedom ring but never pick up the phone" Why aren't we talking about this line? Like, he kill him.
@ditw_music4 жыл бұрын
Nah, wasn't that great. Jefferson's first verse was fire
@MohamedAli-nf1rp4 жыл бұрын
@@ditw_music you would be a dummy if you think jefferson won
@mariaesthervillanueva7294 жыл бұрын
@@MohamedAli-nf1rp Douglass won is so obvious 👏👏
@MohamedAli-nf1rp4 жыл бұрын
@@mariaesthervillanueva729 ik
@Nesendrea4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Douglass was spitting so much fire that by the end of the battle, Jefferson should have been sweating worse than Douglas’ people, cello or no.
@ThatsABitPersonal4 жыл бұрын
Frederick Douglass was also a huge advocate for women’s rights, so he could tell Jefferson that he... Fought to include women in the sequel.
@jazminnegro67474 жыл бұрын
Work!
@psychicbyinternet4 жыл бұрын
Yay I literally just watched that last night so I get the reference haha
@mostlynull4 жыл бұрын
r/unexpectedhamilton
@mrboop89054 жыл бұрын
Aiden's come on man that is the most expected Hamilton
@yougosquishnow4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@renaissancenerd38012 жыл бұрын
can we talk about how "I didn't do anything to stop the slave trade or free my own slaves because I was worried about my money" is such a painfully realistic thing for a politician to say Edit: the sheer amount of people in the replies looking for any and all excuses for Jefferson genuinely boggles my mind
@carlosg81032 жыл бұрын
@MasteroMatter Yep you are right
@CidVeldoril2 жыл бұрын
To be fair he lived in a time when having money meant being able to vote and he was not some kind of dictator who could have easily changed stuff. To be able to change anything for the better on any issue he needed to have money.
@lordspam27212 жыл бұрын
I agree. Jefferson and Douglas were both epic and this battle was weak. People have such a blinded view of history. They were both based AF
@Justaguyuguys2 жыл бұрын
Jefferson was tortured over this, he argued for freeing American slaves most of his life, tried to outlaw slavery in VA and wanted to include a condemnation of slavery in the declaration but the founders thought it would isolate the southern colonies. I've never figured out exactly why he didn't free his slaves when he died, but I think he was in debt and was using the slaves as collateral. I may be wrong about that but everytime I try to look it up I get conflicting answers.
@degayify2 жыл бұрын
Ok groomer
@christopherjustice64114 жыл бұрын
If they had put Jefferson up against literally anybody else he would've kicked ass. This matchup is perfection.
@konstantinopoulos334 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Harriet Tubman?
@MonsieurFeshe4 жыл бұрын
ye, but he still won.
@ZeroTheFoolArcana4 жыл бұрын
he still kicked ass tho, but we are not allowed to say it because it would be "racist" to say thomas won
@christopherjustice64114 жыл бұрын
Zero Your victim narrative is funny, it’s a matter of opinion of who won my dude.
@ZeroTheFoolArcana4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjustice6411 victim narrative is frederick whole rap...
@PaperbackWizard4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, Douglass could have talked a little more about himself. He did more than just get his picture taken.
@kmjkmjkmj4 жыл бұрын
You mean tell us he taught himself to read? He covered that.
@kikiretzorg14674 жыл бұрын
He didn't need to talk about himself to complete dismantle Jefferson by targeting his cognitive dissonance.
@kanoy78174 жыл бұрын
That was the weakest line tbh, "oh you got your fucking face on a mountain, but I got the cool photos"
@kanoy78174 жыл бұрын
@@sacrore9 No, no I don't think they will. Unless the regressive left keeps pushing identity politics.
@majeedmamah74574 жыл бұрын
@@kanoy7817 if identity politics turns you into a racist, you were already a racist.
@reefb62923 жыл бұрын
"no compromise, you couldn't whip a fifth of me man". holyyy shit the three fifths compromise
@lokitmg41233 жыл бұрын
Oooooh yeah!
@loqutor3 жыл бұрын
Except that's not at all what the three-fifths compromise meant. The real Frederick Douglass would have known that.
@lachlanwashere12793 жыл бұрын
@@loqutor I mean, the ⅗ compromise did have to do with a slave's value, and I think they were trying to reference it's existence, not define it.
@samsondog21823 жыл бұрын
@@lachlanwashere1279 The slave owners wanted their slaves to count as one person for voting rights and for more power. The compromise was to keep the slave owning democrat from gaining more voting power.
@Bribridude1303 жыл бұрын
It should have been “no compromise, you couldn’t whip three-fifths of me man”
@thatjeff75506 ай бұрын
"You finished? Okay..." And that's when Jefferson knew he was fighting waaaay out of his league... LOL
@demnbrown4 жыл бұрын
The "face of a free man taught himself to read men no-compromise couldn't whip a fifth of me man" won the battle.
@laurah124 жыл бұрын
took way too long for me to find this comment
@TheBeastBandit4 жыл бұрын
One of the hardest lines that gets so little attention. It was so fucking good
@cyrusmuller65024 жыл бұрын
Tbh after rewatching this it feels one sided like with the hulk
@ShrodingersCatgirl4 жыл бұрын
"you let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" boy he DEAD dead
@olivergates58433 жыл бұрын
@@ShrodingersCatgirl What does this line mean
@sewtom73095 жыл бұрын
I get that Douglass definitely won this one, but Jefferson's first verse was pretty much flawless, and among the best verses in all of ERB. Rivalled by very few.
@jacobgushue8665 жыл бұрын
Major Spook they stacked the battle, which is fine since it was straight fire
@diegomontesleon1365 жыл бұрын
I think that's what makes this battle so interesting. Jefferson brought in a clean-cut brag-rap, that against anyone else would have caused a stalemate. Like Shaka Zulu's opener against Julius Caesar. And then comes in Douglas. Instead of trying to out-brag Jefferson, he picks up Jefferson's own ego trip and hits him with his own flaws. That also helps to make his point; Because Jefferson was a great man, he isn't even trying to outdo him, but he also was a very flawed figure, which is what Douglas has an issue with.
@Arcessitor5 жыл бұрын
@@diegomontesleon136 Lol Shaka got destroyed by Caesar. His best diss was about Caesar being stabbed by friends, while Shaka himself was stabbed by his own family. Lol.
@AceGANNON-tu3qh5 жыл бұрын
If it was even it would have been Jefferson all the way. But Jefferson only had one verse. Jeffersons second verse was just him apologizing for his flaws I don't think that Douglass had bad raps. I was saying it's not as good as Jeffersons bars. I would put Jeffersons first verse with the likes of the fathers of the Renaissance. Almost unmatched like the top comment said. But Douglass steamrolled Jefferson like James bond did. He didn't let Jefferson get words in and you can tell Jeff want to say stuff
@firstnamexlastname91905 жыл бұрын
I agree
@seanbourdier87562 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about this battle is how Jefferson showed up for a regular battle, and Douglass was clearly here with a mission, addressing slavery. Going up against a founding father, he knew what he was doing and then Jefferson has to like back pedal because the whole battle has changed now so he has to cover his ass about it.
@SkiggsMoDiggs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, although Thomas could've just not acknowledged it and continued like most tend to do when their opponent brings up a mistake they can't deny, Thomas wanted to address his accusations. I think that says a bit about him as well, but then again, so does his actions
@JB-gw7xf2 жыл бұрын
@@SkiggsMoDiggs Jefferson was well aware of his own hypocrisy on slavery. In "Notes on the State of Virginia" he said "Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest."
@danielkokal88192 жыл бұрын
@@JB-gw7xf Damn that boy could write.
@DCPTF2 Жыл бұрын
yep nothing like shoving white guilt down the viewer throat
@jaqua7732 Жыл бұрын
Yes that was very well played, but all of these epicrapbattles usually are
@iaincoleman59472 жыл бұрын
"I'm just saying, you need to put an asterisk next to your name" is one of the greatest, most lethal rapier thrusts in all of ERB
@G01NGP0ZT4L Жыл бұрын
THE WAY HE SAID IT SEALS IT
@jackscliparchives1080 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get it still
@markbrehob5592 Жыл бұрын
@@jackscliparchives1080 In sports, they will often put someone as a record holder but add an asterisk saying there was some issue (game called early or something). He's saying "you were great, but there were issues so important that when anyone mentions how great you were, this stain on your record will always be mentioned".
@jackscliparchives1080 Жыл бұрын
@@markbrehob5592 The line sucks
@chocolateavian Жыл бұрын
@@jackscliparchives1080 i dont think you get how amazing it is
@jbfn143 жыл бұрын
"The day the 13th damn ammendment was ratified and I ceased to be an alien to your inalienable rights" One of the most powerful lines in all of ERB.
@ssj2camaro213 жыл бұрын
Property doesn't have rights.
@sayaksen75453 жыл бұрын
@Kacper he's a salty confederate I assume
@TheWarriorofHonor3 жыл бұрын
@@sayaksen7545 possible so, but he had a bit of a point, befire 1865, slaves were considered property (by some) and it is correct to say that property doesn't have right. technically it is correct, even if treating people as property is anything but correct
@passiveswan3 жыл бұрын
@@ssj2camaro21 kay why ess
@UKMonkey3 жыл бұрын
Apart from the 13th just means that in order to have slaves, they need to be arrested first. Why do you think arrest rates are so high in America, especially of the black folks; or why America has one of the highest % of incarcerated people in the world? the 13th protects slavery - just in a hidden way.
@greasyclown5 жыл бұрын
Douglass dissed Jefferson so much, Thomas apologized in next verse...
@thethird19675 жыл бұрын
Lol
@segmentre13525 жыл бұрын
Ice-cave goblin no
@tammygreen89625 жыл бұрын
@@segmentre1352 .. MMmmm..YES HE DID.. DON'T HATE.. STRAIGHT OUT OF BONDAGE 🤣😂😅💃💯
@matthewprue10105 жыл бұрын
I kinda looked at it like, “hey I did these other things and you kinda misrepresented me.” But he did also apologize which was kinda lame. At least he apologized in a great way.
@ethpling1655 жыл бұрын
Inquisitor goblin hmm I wonder if there was a narrative behind that??
@self-proclaimedcomedian10373 жыл бұрын
Jefferson spending his full second verse explaining himself is so beautifully realistic. It's exactly what most politicians would do. It's genius, really
@Jonathan-oy8cl3 жыл бұрын
I mean, he makes a better argument than most
@monke9803 жыл бұрын
i mean but he was being legit, he was actually explaining shit, he wasn't just deflecting with vague ideas. it's really not that genius.
@bijuutamer7293 жыл бұрын
It makes Jefferson look better because pretty much any president before Abe would have just been like, “lol don’t care you’re black”
@juanquixote41863 жыл бұрын
Certainly what the real Jefferson would have tried to do
@Adalon-3 жыл бұрын
@@bijuutamer729 abe was basically the same way. All the freed slaves would have been forcibly repatriated if he hadn't been killed. Abe dislikes slavery, but people forget that is not what the war was about. Abe made it about that, after the fact and at a point the north was in trouble, to Garner support, rally people and to further demonize an enemy. They were just tools, as always in history.
@veccyboo7694 Жыл бұрын
I love the N.W.A reference in Douglas’ first line “Straight outta Bondage” referring to the song and straight out of Compton, which was one of the most political hip hop albums ever that tackled racism and discrimination, so much thought goes into these battles no wonder they take so long to release.
@andrewpeters62073 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how you guys balanced being respectful and redeeming Jefferson's character; while also shredding him to pieces. This is one of your finest videos.
@menthols46253 жыл бұрын
The only character in ERB to ever have to apologize to his opponent in the middle of a rap battle, only to have that apology denied and be told to fuck off. /// Respect Pick one, it can't be both.
@andrewpeters62073 жыл бұрын
@@menthols4625 I am speaking to the fact that most writers of something like this today have ran to ignoring any of the good Jefferson did; and only see racist. Just read the comments, you will see consensus is that the stamp of racist is so big nothing else matters. Here Jefferson actually managed to dig himself out of that most dangerous brand. Douglass's retort was fair, it is the only truly fair criticism of Jefferson, that if he genuinely loved the slave girl who he was in a relationship with, why not take any steps to free her or move her to freedom? I will give you that his second verse had no attacks back, only a masterful knock down of the racist brand, is the one big negative of this video. Being branded racist is a death blow in today's political climate, so that they managed to have Jefferson brush that off and still walking away looking great, is respect for the man.
@trinwheeler46393 жыл бұрын
Why shouldn't being a racist be a death brand? You can hate someone while still appreciating their work and efforts. Should a serial killer get a lighter sentence just because they made a nice painting or invented something? The answer is no.
@thehaloscrolls3913 жыл бұрын
@@trinwheeler4639 your comparing hating a race to literally murdering several people brutally, both are bad, sure, but just being racist pales in comparison to the shit serial killers do
@trinwheeler46393 жыл бұрын
@@thehaloscrolls391 Social death brand, dumb ass. You know, strip racists of their achievements and prestige just like they've done to people of color for millenia.
@MattBnl2ih3 жыл бұрын
Thomas was on his ass until he decided to spend an entire verse trying say “I’m not racist, my sisters boyfriends black”
@EriniusT3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not racist my slave girlfriend is black"
@lukepearson46113 жыл бұрын
I’m not racist I love black people I think everyone should own one
@lifesuckstbh3 жыл бұрын
@@EriniusT stahhhhp 😭😭😂😂😂
@Mo_Real_Official3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@AvoirJoseph3 жыл бұрын
I'm not racist, my sister-in-law's baby cousin Tracy got a brother and his girlfriend's black
@eswan89003 жыл бұрын
I just learned in school that when Douglass says the fourth of July is a very important holiday, but asks what it means to him is a reference to a speech he gave in 1852 called "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?" Clever reference!
@dalemcilwain3 жыл бұрын
July 4, 1826, fifty years after the Declaration Of Independence was signed. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams former presidents and bitter rivals died within hours of each other. Jefferson was gone at about 1PM, Adams passed after 4PM.
@tableswithoutchairs1168 Жыл бұрын
“I’ll never work for your ass but I’ll kick it, for free” And that automatically made FD win imo
@thealis8 жыл бұрын
I wish my history class was like this. I would have aced that. LOL 😂😂
@cherryrootbeer68348 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 😂 saaaaame
@Sg190th8 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!
@jaredgonding61368 жыл бұрын
You are right.
@wolfhead87998 жыл бұрын
I would love that
@enriquepena20098 жыл бұрын
watch Hamilton
@danielsilva22004 жыл бұрын
Best flow: Jefferson Best disses: Freddy D. Loser: King George
@MatthewDoesThisNow4 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, he’ll be back
@alexavieralagao33434 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hamilton vs Aaron Burr/ King George?
@piercelindenberg68424 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Lex Alagao we NEED a Hamilton rap battle. Desperately.
@raheemalmond42674 жыл бұрын
Winner: The Swivel Chair
@miguelntirampeba47974 жыл бұрын
Hotel? Trivago.
@crashbandicoot56365 жыл бұрын
"Man, you did some good things I ain't denying your fame; Just sayin' they need to put an asterisk... Next to your name." F.D. killed it with the last verse.
@illiteratekiwi65365 жыл бұрын
F. D. Killed with the whole song
@tristanhoward48085 жыл бұрын
What does it mean???
@multiplayerrkmedia17645 жыл бұрын
tristan howard Asterisks mean that there’s more information than provided on the topic it’s next to. F.D’s saying Thomas shouldn’t just be known for his positive actions but also his negatives
@tristanhoward48085 жыл бұрын
MULTIplayerRK Media ohh I figured as much
@tristanhoward48085 жыл бұрын
MULTIplayerRK Media thanks bri
@bungybooce4205 Жыл бұрын
“I’m so down with revolutions I invented the Swivel Chair” is my favorite ERB line of all time😂
@avatarmikephantom15310 ай бұрын
Mine too. It’s just so perfect and true.
@chancellorpalpatine37815 жыл бұрын
“No compromise you couldn’t whoop a fifth of me man” This line is very underrated as well as this whole rap battle. So many historical references.
@Sara-xr9ph5 жыл бұрын
Chancellor Palpatine atlanta compromise? what does the other part mean 😬
@typus64715 жыл бұрын
@@Sara-xr9ph nigga when he said whip a fith of me man, he meant the three fith compromise dawg
@Yirialo5 жыл бұрын
@@Sara-xr9ph it's based off of the 3/5 compromise. It was a compromise in the Constitutional convention. It was were southerners wanted slaves to count as "people" in their population so they can evenly proportion out Representatives, elector votes, etc. If that makes any sense.
@bimifoluwaomopariola82025 жыл бұрын
And you can interpret it as "whooping" as in slave beating
@timschroyer12575 жыл бұрын
Are we still using that 3/5ths lie? No where does it single out blacks or any other peoples group. It states those not freemen. That would include the irish indentured servants. And if a black man was free in the north he would be counted as a full person. The intent was to reduce the political power of the slave states so we could end slavery by passing a law instead of a war. The counting as 3/5 a man was not for their vote but as count for population for how many repesentitives a state got to send to congress. So if you wanted to end slavery you wanted the cslaves to not count at all! If you are a slave owner you wanted the slaves to count as a full person. Read the actual amendment and think. Don't just repeat your ignorant racial studies prof.
@i.j.dragonfly31234 жыл бұрын
"No compromise, you couldn't whip a 5th of me man!" That line was fire.
@xavierstanton81464 жыл бұрын
It is referencing the Three Fifths Compromise?
@rexduodecim35284 жыл бұрын
@@xavierstanton8146 Yes it is
@loqutor4 жыл бұрын
Except that's not how the three-fifths compromise worked.
@garboil5 жыл бұрын
I think this the best one ever. I love them all, but this is serious dope. “So down with revolution I invented the swivel chair” “You let freedom ring, but never picked up the phone” Genius.
@mastergamingdude61915 жыл бұрын
u r a genius and u understand the ways of epic rap battles
@ositacarinosito5 жыл бұрын
"I didn't come back from Paris to battle Pepe Le Pew"
@aaronjanestrada94845 жыл бұрын
You forgot "I'd never work for your ass, but I'd kick it for free" Roasted.
@ChronoBaw5 жыл бұрын
My issue with this one has always been the super short second part from Jefferson, he apologized and didn't put any good lines forwards towards Douglass at all, would have been way better if that part had a second verse with some actual dissing towards Douglass rather than apologizing and sitting there like a punching bag
@ohyeahyeah49545 жыл бұрын
"No compromise. You couldnt whip a 5th of me man"
@MarshmallowEclipse Жыл бұрын
I love how when Jefferson says "Set up a little place called the United States, sound familiar?" in the background are a bunch of American people previously portrayed on ERB, Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Babe Ruth, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison, Clint Eastwood, Barack Obama, Hulk Hogan.
@EthanOoms3 ай бұрын
ok but what about mikhail gorbachev he isn't american and he also appears at that point
@MarshmallowEclipse3 ай бұрын
@@EthanOoms Gorbachev was Russian, but he did collaborate with Americans more than most other Soviets.
@EthanOoms3 ай бұрын
@@MarshmallowEclipse yea ok
@typicalfurry27472 ай бұрын
@@EthanOoms where?
@theblkbird56728 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks the beat in this is on point?
@talonpop8 жыл бұрын
Makes me kinda wish Colonial rap was a thing
@aaronglandon008 жыл бұрын
+Talon Marshall I suggest listening to Hamilton the Musical
@bryanlanderos22238 жыл бұрын
+Talon Marshall lol
@chrisforsyth83238 жыл бұрын
I loved it, and the Douglas bass line was fantastic.
@yasminadigun2438 жыл бұрын
I do
@jackpot52825 жыл бұрын
Jon Snow vs. Alexander Hamilton Battle of the Bastards.
@chloehall49225 жыл бұрын
JackPot YESSS
@Zimmathon5 жыл бұрын
Get the guy who played Che Guevara in their recent rap battle to play Jon Snow.
@kharlclear19815 жыл бұрын
Ooooooor Just Lin-Manuel Miranda vs Alexander Hamilton with Lin as a guest would be lit 🔥
@g-ratedhistory82335 жыл бұрын
William the conqueror jumps in and slaughters them both
@frizzie1234565 жыл бұрын
Lin would LOVE to do this, oh my god
@mikau21234 жыл бұрын
"You finished?" That's code for "I'm about to destroy you"
@guilhermehenzel24934 жыл бұрын
no
@redditcentral64874 жыл бұрын
Google User ok simp
@gatekeepingwarlock96044 жыл бұрын
*STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE*
@PrivateDaisy4 жыл бұрын
I need this on shirt
@Cowinator664 жыл бұрын
Add the STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this homage line.
@mishtaromaniello82957 ай бұрын
One of those times ERB was not only entertaining but thought-provoking. One of your very best battles.
@courageousodin5 жыл бұрын
I KNEW i recognized the lisp in spiderman far from home. the teacher and frederick douglass are both played by jb smoove!
@xXSkyifyXx5 жыл бұрын
Courageous Odin woah that’s sick thanks for pointing that out
@sockondik125 жыл бұрын
He also plays a funny guy on Curb your Enthusiasm!
@omkarbhambure95305 жыл бұрын
@@sockondik12 Leon
@Jorrdacakes5 жыл бұрын
this comment should have more likes
@dwightlove37045 жыл бұрын
Goon Man Yes JB SMOOVE held his own in this battle.
@SharkByteOfficial8 жыл бұрын
"Ahh Frederick, I've never heard a verse I *dug less*" How the shet did I just notice this lol
@Cuttl.e8 жыл бұрын
What
@LithKast8 жыл бұрын
Verse I Dug less. Meaning he didn't like the verse. Dug less or Douglass. sound the same.
@natgeowildbackup8 жыл бұрын
Dude, I literally commented the same thing 3 weeks ago lol. We both think alike.
@SharkByteOfficial8 жыл бұрын
***** lol
@Dragons4Dummies8 жыл бұрын
You just pointed out a whole extra curve ball to this epic edition XD
@abdhitariefaldi4 жыл бұрын
Just realize who played Fredrick Douglas is actor who play as Peter Parker teacher in Far From Home..
@hellcathelton42174 жыл бұрын
Abdhita Riefaldi no way
@nada556664 жыл бұрын
Yes that'll JB Smoove. He also plays Leon jn Curb your Enthusiasm
@cheetahrun17933 жыл бұрын
What a easter egg
@williameldridge93823 жыл бұрын
He also played Dr. Ray De Angelo Harris in Grand Theft Auto V
@ericpeterson87323 жыл бұрын
He's a wordsmith. (That's from a guest star on Castle)
@NorthernSea1217 ай бұрын
"they need to put an asterisk next to your name" was probably the best delivery of a line i've ever heard
@TippytoeZombie5 жыл бұрын
John Adams and John Quincy Adams Vs. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush
@tedarcher91205 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@yaboijoe20805 жыл бұрын
TippytoeZombie Just gonna leave out William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison :(
@king_supreme11025 жыл бұрын
ya boi joe they weren’t father and son... and if they were going to do family members they would do the Roosevelt’s before the Harrison’s. Although a 4 way battle would be cool.
@khameriengibson88345 жыл бұрын
the roosevelts werent father and son just sayinh
@talongreene56635 жыл бұрын
Either Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr or thomas jeferson and James madison vs. Hamilton and George Washington
@robin_emmel6 жыл бұрын
"this ain`t Louisiana man, I ain`t buying it" shots has been fired xD
@JuanAlvarez-rx7oy6 жыл бұрын
It wasn't even that nice of a line.Bruhhhh he wasn't even trying to offend him.
@mhmq50516 жыл бұрын
ث
@glencoco51596 жыл бұрын
What does it mean? Im not american so i dont get the context.
@glencoco51596 жыл бұрын
@@aidanmurphy40 ooh that makes so much sense now thank you.
@dwaki38226 жыл бұрын
I just got that funny
@Jchmcom2 жыл бұрын
“You couldn’t whip a fifth of me, man!” Jefferson was so ready to retort but instantly though “Fuck, ok that was a really good bar.”
@tykemorris2 жыл бұрын
Is this a reference to blacks being assessed as "3/5 human"?
@kenleonard77392 жыл бұрын
@@tykemorris Yes. "No compromise, you couldn't whip a 5th of me, man!" refers to the 3/5 Compromise, which was made so that states whose people's main interest was maintaining their right to buy and sell human beings would join ratify the Constitution.
@edwardblair40962 жыл бұрын
@@tykemorris In particular the southern states wanted their slaves to count as whole people when it came to allocating seats in the House of Representatives. They weren't going to get to vote, but the (rich) free men of the state would have had the advantage of their numbers in Congress. The non-slave states did not want non-free population to count at all when it came to dividing political power between the states. The compromise was between these two positions. I understand how dehumanizing it sounds to us today, but I am not sure if it would have been better if the South had gotten their original wish. There is a good chance that the Civil War might have started earlier, or had a different outcome if the political balance was more favorable to the higher population of the southern slave states. Think no Missouri Compromise and probably more slavery in the western territories.
@tykemorris2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardblair4096 On a similar "what if" note, a lot of people feel that the constitutional convention should have abolished slavery. While that seems right at first thought, there would have been at best 8 original states, two separate countries and no civil war to free the slaves. That would have prolonged slavery and increased the persecution of blacks.
@TheSpartanFactor2 жыл бұрын
I don't think his hesitation is recognition of the bar, but a realization that countering would be bragging about his ability to whip a former slave. Jefferson is a specimen of shame in this battle, that's why his entire second verse is a long-winded non-apology. He refuses to take the blow and move on with the battle, and spends the rest of his time explaining away his failures. He has to believe his crimes and failures were justifiable, because his own thoughts echo Douglas's words. Thomas knows that Douglas is right, and choosing to dispute "you couldn't whip a fifth of me man," is a tacit admission of guilt. He knows in his brain that it would look real bad to interject on that note, but he has an emotional need to respond, because the lyric is a merciless assault on a very real insecurity of his. As for whether or not that's how the real Thomas Jefferson felt about his actions, I can't say. If there's an answer to that question I certainly haven't read enough about him to know, but that is definitely the read I get on this particular representation of him.
@lulolie Жыл бұрын
I love how they gave Jefferson bars because he was genuinely a great writer but still had Frederick beat him the whole way through based on Jefferson's hypocrisy to his own words and expressed values
@CourtlandLess Жыл бұрын
He would’ve won if Fred didn’t make it about race. All Jefferson did was defend himself
@Ravenholm337 Жыл бұрын
@@CourtlandLess Freddy D didn't make it about race, he just pointed out Jefferson's actions or lack thereof.
@StrangeworldEU Жыл бұрын
you're surprised the frederick douglass, someone who is best known for being a former slave and abolitionist, who was *a slave in jefferson's lifetime*, would comment about slavery? To thomas jefferson? 'make it about race' my ass lol. this couldn't be about anything else.@@CourtlandLess
@ImVeryOriginal Жыл бұрын
@@StrangeworldEUYeah white racists really don't want to think about their racism so whenever the topic is brought up in any context it's "inserting race into it" lol
@angelperalessalaices8696 Жыл бұрын
tell us that you're a racist without telling us you are racist@@CourtlandLess
@the1flym4596 жыл бұрын
Jefferson commited the cardinal sin of rap battles: He went on the defensive
@TweekMorgan4dictator6 жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah, but it also kinda works for his character.
@jdpena266 жыл бұрын
Noah Lamberty wait why
@maxg85946 жыл бұрын
If he attacked Douglass personally, other than that he didn't do many memorable things, he would be proving Douglass's point
@aviator5506 жыл бұрын
Noah Lamberty I think the character playing Jefferson knew if he didn't bring it up (slavery) in his rap everybody else would in the comments section
@NarpytheCrimeDog6 жыл бұрын
This is rather accurate for Jefferson. He freely admitted that he was a coward and constantly tried to justify his character flaws - more to himself than to others. He didn't like to boast or puff his chest - nor did he really like exploitation.
@Dandelionsinthesky3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Daveed Diggs played Thomas Jefferson in "Hamilton:The Musical" and is now playing Frederick Douglass in "The Good Lord Bird" makes this even better
@galaxyroobear76002 жыл бұрын
Ikr?!?!
@marcusdayungg21105 жыл бұрын
1:29 “No compromise, you couldn’t whip a fifth of me man.” And theres five of him on screen.
@Plug_Art5 жыл бұрын
The little details 😂
@callmevalentine85405 жыл бұрын
The 3/5th compromise reference😌
@effemeseyevee9015 жыл бұрын
on point!
@penisparker51725 жыл бұрын
And there is idoits in the comment section who dont get the disses lmfao.
@jjnn25 жыл бұрын
I'm astounded that so many people don't understand basic references
@dragonlord5882 жыл бұрын
"You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" always gives me goosebumps
@Listening_Books1234511 ай бұрын
For me it's always the run up and finale of the line "you couldn't whip a fifth of me, man!"
@thechrignaciostrash39605 жыл бұрын
Thomas Jefferson* vs Frederick Douglass
@matthewmoore26905 жыл бұрын
@@mizzaely8863 nah it mean Thomas Jefferson was against slavery but still owned slaves
@ethanshields23715 жыл бұрын
that took me a minute figure out great comedy
@rinokumura92235 жыл бұрын
What does the astrick mean
@MrJoeylj5 жыл бұрын
@@rinokumura9223 it means a person died
@Zom13y5 жыл бұрын
MrJoeylj it means the person made a mistake that cannot be corrected but incorporated into any success or feat. Example baseball records broken by players under the use of performance enhancing drugs have an asterisk next to their names. In this instance Thomas Jefferson fought for freedom while benefiting from the bondage of others. It is a hideous mistake made by Jefferson that shouldn't be forgotten or excused but incorporated into the viewing of this man's achievements and motives. Also he was a rapist, try to whitewash it as much as you like but if you OWN a person there's no such thing as consent.
@topgamer1013 жыл бұрын
To this day, J.B. Smoove's final line in this is my all time favorite ending to almost all the others. He comes in hard but that final line is calm and strong in saying you did some things worth noting, but put an asterisk with it and calmly walks away. No further ego or combative nature after it, just let the line hang in the air and walk away. Thanks for doing these guys. Hope everyone that works on them and in them are doing well. :D
@marleyjr.bobert66393 жыл бұрын
I agree, still showing he had some respect through his character.
@DragonRyderGames3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the asterisk part never have what does that mean?
@radien2393 жыл бұрын
I’m just realizing that’s JB smoove
@Just_a_Jynx3 жыл бұрын
@@DragonRyderGames I wanna know too lol
@DragonRyderGames3 жыл бұрын
@@Just_a_Jynx ikr lol I even looked it up online at one point and got no answer other than it having to do with wikipedia but idk how it relates to the line
@ramenramrod2 жыл бұрын
I was today years old when I realized Thomas Jefferson ACTUALLY invented the Swivel Chair. God, this series is educational and badass! 👌🏽
@danielkokal88192 жыл бұрын
also played a mean violin
@Zac4_B7ack Жыл бұрын
@@danielkokal8819 CELLO, not violin.
@praisetelesto Жыл бұрын
@@Zac4_B7ack You mean the baby version of the Bass
@Zac4_B7ack Жыл бұрын
@@praisetelesto No, I mean a cello.
@praisetelesto Жыл бұрын
@@Zac4_B7ack oh I get it the big brother of the viola
@GotEmAll13372 жыл бұрын
Y'all are seriously so damn talented. This kind of content is what KZbin was made for.
@R1NZL3R8 жыл бұрын
Keep the hype train rolling boys!! Morgan Freeman vs Samuel L. Jackson!!!
@Radolus5558 жыл бұрын
OH GOD YES
@-terminando-33718 жыл бұрын
yes please
@sheridanwood11668 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm soon behind this one
@josephschaffner55148 жыл бұрын
yess
@chuckwagonbowling36338 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@michellegentilozzi62682 жыл бұрын
When Jefferson says "so kings and pirates beware," most get the refrence to King George III, but what is underated is the reference to the 2 Barbary wars, which occured 1801-1805, and 1815-1816. They fought against Barbary (North African) pirates.
@jaidengabriel16752 жыл бұрын
Tripoli moment
@Justaguyuguys2 жыл бұрын
Ah the good old days, when American interventionism was just us kicking some pirate ass.
@jaidengabriel16752 жыл бұрын
@@Justaguyuguys I wish for a return to simpler times when we never had to question our own morals...
@samueldurham93272 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, the wars that started because white Americans were taken as, what was it again? Oh thats right, SLAVES. Thomas Jefferson and the entire founding fathers were a disgrace and hypocrisy white supremacists. The sheer hypocrisy in fighting wars to free slaves while you subjugate an entire race should not be lost on anyone.
@mothsfavlamp Жыл бұрын
There's so many references to piracy in stuff like the Federalist Papers, and while it makes sense, it still always catches me off guard a bit
@emmab32758 жыл бұрын
I swear this is the most underrated battle. It's one of my top 5, easily.
@leslierae64168 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah, the rhymes are sick
@nicholasvath58968 жыл бұрын
The line "You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" Damn
@LadyPallas8 жыл бұрын
Emma B yeah the beat is great. I'm a producer and I pay attention to that lol
@dreadedpatrick98768 жыл бұрын
same
@healyrose49578 жыл бұрын
Emma B
@dtniland2 жыл бұрын
"you a soft white Monticello marshmallow" is one of my favorite lines because it has great flow, rhyme, and also is a good diss
@emersonthomas72015 жыл бұрын
you finished? ...okay STRAIGHT OUTTA' BONDAGE That gets me every time.
@jaybanks27095 жыл бұрын
i know right crazy ROAST
@Nesperimus5 жыл бұрын
Ice Cube will be proud
@Nesperimus5 жыл бұрын
Ice Cube would be proud.
@Edmonton-of2ec5 жыл бұрын
Bruta'al BIG HAIR, BIG NUTS, BIG ISSUES!
@emersonthomas72015 жыл бұрын
@@Edmonton-of2ec starting with your nickel, there's a real declaration, heads for racist, tails for slave plantation.
@Mr.President4275 жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about how F.D killed it, but Jefferson’s first verse was actually solid
@gansta4hiren845 жыл бұрын
FD still killed
@fahadalsubaie26775 жыл бұрын
But F.D killed all of it
@eonsinfinity5345 жыл бұрын
Nah, to this day i still believe the battle was over after thomas jeffersons first verse. The entire rest of the battle was just frederick douglas trying to make sure his verse stayed relevant.
@gansta4hiren845 жыл бұрын
@@eonsinfinity534 its literally the other way around. Thomas just bragged about being a rich white educated Male, while FD rapped about the struggle of slaves and how he never let that stop him from getting the things he needed to succeed. FD still killed
@eonsinfinity5345 жыл бұрын
@@gansta4hiren84 so tell me man, how many other rich white males went on to the same level of sucess he achieved? Let me think..... what president are we on again?
@Max The Random Lepurchaun No compromise you couldn't whip a fifth of me man
@alaskagyal5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Branagan you got a self evident truth of your own, you let freedom ring and never picked up the phone
@NwoDispatcher5 жыл бұрын
those in glass houses shouldn't cast stones
@GenocidalSquid5 жыл бұрын
@@alaskagyal Aw, Fredrick, I never heard a verse I dug less, Alright, I admit it, I confess! I participated in a broken system that I hated! But I needed to keep my financial status situated, And the words I used were "Hideous Blot", To describe the slave trade and the pain it hath brought! And I fought to stop the trade of new slaves in Virginia, When I ran the whole state and still made it home for dinner. So forgive me, man I had a lot to do, so you're free now, so.. we cool?
@ericperez9310 Жыл бұрын
“Let me run down my resume will ya. Set up a little place called the United States. Sound familiar?” 🔥🔥
@pleaseleave4 жыл бұрын
Jefferson's second verse was just him going into damage control, while Fredrick just kept on the attack
@keiranokeeffe18614 жыл бұрын
Then again douglas rephrased the whole racist arguement so many times
@anthos81824 жыл бұрын
Keiran O'Keeffe Fr, I agree him won, but if Jefferson actually dissed in his second verse he woulda easily took the dub. He had one of the best opening verses in ERB history
@petnaby4 жыл бұрын
That's because what else could they have written for Jefferson? Douglass, when compared to Jefferson, is really a nobody. Jefferson lists his greatest achievements then tells Douglass who the fuck he is i.e. you're not even important in history and Douglass basically spends the rest of the rap going "u racist bro". Like, yeah, Frederick had some great lines but never addresses that compared to Jefferson he's a literal nobody. The whole song was written so Frederick could have the best chance at winning
@paydensquiressjuauwu10324 жыл бұрын
Ya because racism isn’t cool but Jefferson Douglas apologized
@paydensquiressjuauwu10324 жыл бұрын
And Douglas continued to diss after so of course he won
@potato-vm9ys5 жыл бұрын
Me at 3 AM: Ok brain, I want to sleep... Brain: STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE Edit: I come back to this comment in quarantine and HOLY MOLEY 2.3k likes AND an internet chorus performance? I am proud of you all fellow humans
@1ring1825 жыл бұрын
this mw right now
@LeeBreezy5 жыл бұрын
BIG HAIR BIG NUTS BIG ISSUES
@ziadjouini16715 жыл бұрын
THERE'S A REAL DECLARATION HEADS FOR RASIST TAILS FOR A SLAVE PLANTATION
@janus_19865 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE A SOFT, WHITE MONTICELLO MARSHMALLOW
@neinno81725 жыл бұрын
WATCHING MY PEOPLE SWEAT WHILE YOU SAT PLAYING CELLO- HELLO
@TheVGC8 жыл бұрын
I always believe when ERB actually involve history they are objectively better.
@symphonyofaria8 жыл бұрын
Idk I liked the Gordon Ramsay and Julia child one
@ravenfrancis14768 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. The rapping was good, so was the beat, but the fact Hamilton actually genuinely apologized throughout his second verse kinda ruined the whole thing.
@sugoruyo8 жыл бұрын
ERB is always great but the historical episodes just hit it out of the park.
@kylemiller20398 жыл бұрын
+Joe Francis jefferson
@ravenfrancis14768 жыл бұрын
+Kyle Miller Sorry, my brain was loopy when I wrote that.
@empratt58002 жыл бұрын
Wow. I am so impressed by all the fantastic references packed into this rap battle, that I feel compelled to spell them out. Here’s what I think is not totally self-evident (heh) from the lyrics: 0:11 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) 0:19 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) 0:27 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) - listed ways King George III was a tyrant 0:40 Douglass’s 3 autobiographies: Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave; My Bondage and My Freedom; and The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass 0:45 Jefferson served as ambassador to France and spent time in Paris 0:58 Straight Outta Compton (film) / Douglass’s escape from slavery 1:04 U.S. nickel has Jefferson’s portrait on the heads side, his estate Monticello (where his many slaves lived/worked) on the tails side 1:12 Jefferson played the violin and sometimes the cello 1:23 Douglass’s many, many portraits - Douglass recognized the power of the fairly new medium of photography and posed for every portrait he could, always with a serious face, to counteract the racist minstrel stereotype of the “happy slave” 1:28 The Three-fifths Compromise (Jefferson was not a part of making this, but he did benefit from it when it gave him just enough electoral college votes to win the 1800 presidential election against John Adams) 1:31 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) 2:03 The Louisiana Purchase (Jefferson) 2:09 Jefferson had 6 children with his slave Sally Hemings, who was very probably the half-sister of Jefferson’s wife Martha and may have born a resemblance to her. It is believed Jefferson started having sex with Hemings a couple years after his wife’s death, when he was 44 and Hemings was 14. While he did eventually free all of the children he had with Hemings, he did not free Hemings herself, not even in his will. 2:14 Jefferson died on the 4th of July, 1826 (and weirdly so did John Adams) 2:17 What, to the Slave, Is the Fourth of July? (Douglass) 2:24 While the Emancipation Proclamation was a limited wartime measure, the Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery permanently. 2:28 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) 2:29 The U.S. Constitution starts “We the people” Anything important I missed? Do comment if so!
@notcleetus5561 Жыл бұрын
the straight outta compton reference is from the music video for the song not the movie, everything else is great tho
@dremasacco14203 жыл бұрын
This is seriously one of my favorite battles.
@dremasacco14203 жыл бұрын
ERB you guys are so sweet!
@ididntknowwhattonamemyself96262 жыл бұрын
❤️
@HighwaytoHoserville5 жыл бұрын
This taught me about the dissertation douglass presented to congress about the 4th of july. Really heavy stuff, but good to know about.
@delbeloliver8 жыл бұрын
Dorothy (from Oz) vs Alice (A. from Wonderland)
@bethel10808 жыл бұрын
good one want see it.
@madhatter34218 жыл бұрын
Yes! I wanna see that
@tristianroberts57938 жыл бұрын
Gabe Newell (valve)vs Yves Guillemot(Ubisoft)
@AsanpiCh8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that!
@omarpalacios93118 жыл бұрын
ooooh yes I would to see that
@ryadachaibou80982 жыл бұрын
the organ and lapsteel guitar when Douglas's verse starts are so sick
@Nick-um1pi4 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Daveed Diggs has played both these people
@milesmorales21064 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@Doveo8383 жыл бұрын
How
@milesmorales21063 жыл бұрын
@@Doveo838 there’s a show called “the good lord bird” where he plays Freddy D
@aztecgodhuzluiospd10333 жыл бұрын
🤯
@janoahstegall26513 жыл бұрын
Even better knowing that his flow is otherworldly, especially off a Broadway stage
@artofthecube72278 жыл бұрын
The Pope vs Emperor Palpatine!
@artofthecube72278 жыл бұрын
pls @ERB
@artofthecube72278 жыл бұрын
*@ERB
@calvarywheel23468 жыл бұрын
sure
@connorbelko72408 жыл бұрын
Which Pope?
@Idkmanlemmeedit8 жыл бұрын
Which one do you think he fucking means? Possibly the current pope? Idk, that's what I guess.
@donniepatt95142 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I really enjoy the rhymes but I REALLY appreciate the editing in this. Its amazing
@thiccum40042 жыл бұрын
Got a like from erb!
@foggydogy5796 Жыл бұрын
Man, I love this battle! The fact that Jefferson spent his second verse apologizing for slavery is definitely in character with him. In the history books I've read most historians claim that Jefferson and other Virginia politicians spent a lot of time talking about how evil slavery was but didn't take any personal or political steps to stop it.
@CultureCrossed6411 ай бұрын
Jefferson fought to end the slave trade both in Virginia and nationally. So that's false from the jump- but he also put into the Declaration of independence that slavery was evil and was forced to take it out.
@mnm12737 ай бұрын
@@CultureCrossed64 He owned hundreds of slaves personally and politically his actions limited the trade but not the owning of slaves.
@spoopy96897 ай бұрын
@@mnm1273and do you think he still would've been president if he freed them? The entire South was running and profiting off of slavery, Thomas Jefferson, if he freed his slaves, he would've probably been impeached, if he freed all the slaves, there might be an early Civil War that tears the country apart before it really became a country.
@conservativecatholic90305 жыл бұрын
If it weren’t for the language, I would show this to my 8th grade history class.
@miconis1235 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. They do an amazing job with historical facts, especially little things like Jefferson inventing the swivel chair.
@frankesposito21825 жыл бұрын
You know the " Baby Mama".. thing was comming....best Rap battle !
@heatherstewart99945 жыл бұрын
I like how you wanted to keep it clean for your class but they’re eighth graders, I’m sure they can handle it
@miconis1235 жыл бұрын
@@heatherstewart9994 It's the parents who will throw the fit, not the students.
@heatherstewart99945 жыл бұрын
I am Miconis that’s a good point
@alexvandyke75648 жыл бұрын
Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde vs Harvey Dent/ Two Face
@Th3J0k3R2KraZ8 жыл бұрын
Please YEEEESSSSSS!!!!!
@DragonFilms8 жыл бұрын
This is a REALLY good one please make it happen!
@thelukemeister8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wise words of wisdoms you genius
@mustachio_comics91258 жыл бұрын
Would've preferred Jekyll vs Banner but this would also be great
@jorgemendoza58498 жыл бұрын
After all, Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde inspired Two-Face.
@HH-lr2zt4 жыл бұрын
One of my essay questions today on my US History test related to Thomas Jefferson as a controversial figure, and my mind blanked so I just paraphrased lines from this rap and used it to back up my weak argument. Wish me luck! Thanks ERB. Edit: It's been two years but I got an A on that test and my teacher commented that I had one of the most unique takes in the class.
@AeromaticXD4 жыл бұрын
Hannah Henderson how did it go?
@BRITISH420Blazin4 жыл бұрын
How did it go tho?
@koxukoshu4 жыл бұрын
how did it go
@booman4694 жыл бұрын
WE NEED ANSWER HOW'D IT GO?
@bobxyzp4 жыл бұрын
HOW-DID-IT-GO
@amyschildgamerlive45192 жыл бұрын
This is my fav erb video. The beats. The lines. The delivery... it's a masterpiece!