Fredrik Thordendal's Sol Niger Within

A deformed, sonically smashed version of Fredrik Thordendal's Sol Niger Within medley, live from the Melloboat with Morgan Ågren and Gustaf Hielm.

[@grizzlywhisker]

i wish fredrik would release more solo material, or just make more meshuggah albums. i just want more music from this guy, it's all so amazing.

[@AlexGordonMusic]

grizzlywhisker well you’re in luck cuz the new special defects is on the way

[@Bebopopotamus]

He skipped the most recent Meshuggah tour, presumably to work on his own stuff. I think we'll be getting some new Special Defects soon!

[@holygroove2]

Meshuggah let him go on temporary leave because he's been wanting to do his own stuff for a while. Here you go: loudwire.com/meshuggah-tour-without-guitarist-fredrik-thordendal/

[@MunchuMunchu]

Fun fact, most of The Violent Sleep of Reason was written by Dick and Haake. Fredrik wrote very little!

[@siegfriedwashburn3484]

As well I know from our friend, who is BTW, my Teacher, Fredrik fill FINE, built his own smasing studio, and recording his personal album! We have the same one friend, so I know.:-))

[@Ejje]

I was there, they were really late and the concert started around 3 am! Totally worth it though.

[@robertfan332]

Wow this was on the melloboat performance!

[@Strenuous1033]

what was the date? What songs did they play?

[@JeffReams]

I'm totally jealous ... Fredrik is bad ass live.

[@oRnch199]

The Swedes do what they want. And we are here for it.

[@killingmyselftolive2526]

C'mon Fred, release the new album already..

[@grindingvomitreflux]

Have you ever imagined what would it result from a Mattias IA Eklundh/Meshuggah collab? It probabely would be like two black holes colliding each other and engulfing all the stars and galaxies on the universe

[@DrMabuse2010]

I hope the audience knew how lucky they where, having seen this live....

[@progperljungman8218]

I was very lucky indeed! (about 4 am on that Melloboat festival filled with cult features and some other great bands like Opeth and Katatonia. Steven Wilson attended as well, not performing, just to experience it all. The most cult happening was the reunion of Åkerfeldt's heroes Comus)

[@johnhasso8908]

Nah, they had no idea.

[@whatdothlife4660]

They cheared at 3:24 when the band goes into the actual album. No one is paying for tickets for a super niche band like this out of the blue.

[@harpernicholson1]

not niche, just unknown@@whatdothlife4660

[@Kneith]

@@whatdothlife4660 To be fair it was a cruise so you technically didn't have to be there just to see this act. But then again I want to remember the whole Mats & Morgan Allstar band was about a 4 hour show, they started around midnight and played til 4AM. Probably the best show I ever attended though, so yeah I knew how lucky I was :P

[@EricJamesVideo]

Damn. Wish the audio was better. It's real crunchy. But I'll watch this none-the-less.

[@jeffsullivan1678]

and they barely shoe Morgan

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

@@jeffsullivan1678 yeah its more like a flip flop 🙃

[@johnwayne9906]

Fredrik has such an iconic tone. I can tell it’s him within seconds. Just like SRV, Hendrix, Van Halen etc.. truly underrated

[@EM-zo1dy]

John Wayne Tone, vibrato, sense of melody and harmony and phrasing/rhythms? Oh yes

[@mrwinged9833]

Mattias tone too, and more

[@reffo]

Gnarly and Holdsworthian. Gives me goosebumps.

[@pedromrls6]

lovecraftnian

[@michaeljoefox]

It’s hard to hear over the BOOSSH BOOSH BOOSHH CRACKLE CRACKLE BOOOSH

[@AdamDallas]

This is so special, pun entirely not intended. This is perfect Jazz from Hell, and I love that the little camera microphone is begging for mercy the whole time.

[@uraniumcranium2613]

The drumming is Jazzy for sure. Check out Cthulu Rise for some real jazz metal prog.

[@darkallyrecordings4931]

Yeah.......that mic is pleading for its life.....as it should! 😂

[@fredericothordendjent1408]

​@@darkallyrecordings4931sup not sure you're interested or not I've uploaded an audio corrected version in my channel, since I couldn't wait anymore for someone to fix the overflow, I did it myself 😂

[@JoelSebastianMoreno]

Mattias and Fredrik need work together.

[@jkol323]

They have collaborated on a few songs in the past :) Check out mattias' album the smorgasbord

[@deliriumcb5959]

Thank you for that. I love Freak Kitchen, can't wait to hear this.

[@HunterRouth]

Amen.

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

Thanks Kolbinsky. I'll also have to check it out. Was recommended listening to freak kitchen recently and its like they were forged from the same musical-sonic mould these guys.

[@JasonEmry]

This is the most metal intro/teaser for an accordion. Ever. In existence.

[@beejw9150]

Hahaha brilliant

[@colins7771]

the most inhuman display of music that exists. pure magic.

[@brianmcgee690]

We need a LIVE album from Special Defects!

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

And a tour please 🙏👽

[@stopit2964]

what pedal is fredrik playing? its hard to tell if its a volume pedal or like...a rocking footswitch that acts like a vibrato bar? I'm really confused by what I'm seeing him do with it and the sounds he's making with it

[@nikkekuki]

If I remember correctly he moves the delay time making it glitch and change pitch. Like a delay pedal would do if one fiddles with the time knob while delay is on and trails are heard. Sounds weird but cool tho!

[@William1st]

Poor microphone

[@ALTO7730]

its called distortion

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

Poor René

[@Catrapazau]

Thanks for sharing this piece of art. My only wish is: I'd loved to be there because 3 off my favourite Swedish musicians shared the same stage! Almost 22 years have passed since the 1st time I've heard Special Defects, mediately become a dream to watch it live!!! Memorable at lest!!! Oh, and since I live in the safest place/land on Earth >> Portugal

[@Star_Sn1per]

I would love to see him play "z1 reticuli" it's my favorite thordendal solo of all time

[@sneakychrisdude]

14:15 Mattias just stops watches in amazement 2 gods communicating with eachother

[@Leatherfacet]

And both Fredrik and Morgan knows a god is staring at them.

[@Josh-it6uy]

lmao shut up

[@bad_keyzi]

I never thought they could perform it like this live. I had seen the thonderdal agren oldskool version many many times, but this one is from another world. The quality thou! Anyone knows when exactly was this performed?

[@hazardeur]

The guy who posted the video is the guitarist on the left. I guess he would know best....

[@bad_keyzi]

lol. ok I had no idea bout that fact. thanks

[@Leatherfacet]

@@hazardeur The guy?! Thats arguably one of the greatest guitarist of the last 30 years.

[@hazardeur]

@@Leatherfacet he's still a "guy", is he not? there is nothing wrong nor demeaning about the way i wrote it. if you have a problem with english it ain't my problem

[@andrewsmith4198]

What happened after the accordian appeared? I need to know the end of this riveting tale.

[@jblacklogos]

The accordion player finishes the song with a 10 minute solo. His name is Lars Hollmer from the Swedish progrock band called Samla Mammas Manna.

[@siccbastard4580]

@@jblacklogos how do you know?! Were you there or did you find other footage?! PLZ I NEED TO KNOWW!

[@jblacklogos]

SICC BASTARD I attended the show at Melloboat in 2011. It was an epic concert! I haven't seen any footage covering the rest of the concert.

[@guylikesguitar]

There must be some crazy stuff in Swedens drinkwater.

[@Heliosphan33]

Glacial melt. That water is thousands of years old.

[@icespittingfire]

never fails to make me chuckle when after those last 5 minutes of crushing heaviness a guy with an accordion strolls on. brilliant vid.

[@metalheadblues]

Wonder if meshuggah offer the tour spot to mathias before going with per , sweden is a crazy country with incredible musicians

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

No offense to Per but i would've probably enjoyed that more 😜

[@mikedown1250]

the sound quality is perfect

[@holygroove2]

Don't know how I missed it but the progression towards the end of this is straight out of Destroy Erase Improve, along with some of the sounds happening.

[@Watiberto]

Is used also in "Tathagata".

[@RadityoPramAdi]

sonically smashed, but somehow I manage to listen till the end!!

[@nipulkradmsinatagras8293]

3:30 *Fredrik Thordendal* obviously eats a *"scientific abacus"* for breakfast every morning.

[@ShreddedASMR]

Incredible... That had to be an amazing experience for the audience.

[@darkallyrecordings4931]

They had no idea.......lucky bastards.

[@UnendingGrimness]

This music is so nuts \m/ the timing builds an anxiety in my chest where I feel like i'm trying to keep up even listening lol then David Lee Roth enters with his accordian at the end lol \m/ It's like an art exhibit!

[@gozer9556]

This makes me think of what a bootleg video would sound like if the Jimi Hendrix Band played a metal show :)

[@SnipE_mS]

dudes playin a 6 with Fredrik? lol

[@metalheadblues]

Strange cuz his signature guitar is an 8 string , guess it was before that

[@ENEshorty14]

😢 this is the most beautiful music 🎸 🥁 I've heard in my life. All of y'all is monsters. Fredrik a god to me.

[@AvocaSingleTrack]

Who was the sound guy on this ??? I think the level was recorded a little hot ...haha Fredrik and Meshuggah awesome !

[@seth2533]

one more letter and we're in trouble

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

Mattias you should've been on the record! It's like you guys are forged from the same metal, no pun intended. Please make a promise to be on SDFII if there ever is one! ❤️

[@siccbastard4580]

Woah, you got a heart from Mattias himself

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

@@siccbastard4580 exactly my reaction! ;P

[@MaXaNoMaLoUs]

Morgans face at 15:50 !!! That's what I'm talking about!

[@menteencoma]

Wow, I thought this footage got lost. It's great to finally see a decent recording of this.

[@MrCaZzzle]

I would have traveled to Sweden just to see this!!

[@swedishstream]

I was there!

[@raphaelpujalte3001]

holy fucking shit

[@Galactu5]

IIRC the good recorder Morgan had didn't record the show for whatever reason, so the two vids from cameras that digitally clipped are all we have of this show. It's been like 14 years, but that's what I was told by Morgan, IIRC...

[@kurukq]

This woulda been so badass if it was darker and had the Meshuggah light show!

[@yuutensg]

When I watched this video, I remembered an album named Earthbound

[@prestonparish]

How... how am I just seeing this NOW for the first time?! My favorite album of all time

[@enocht100]

Bro! You, Matt Gartska, Thomas Haake and Morgan Agren may be the three most unique and important drummers of this drumming era! Music needs you!

Guitars be almost sounding like bagpipes

[@extrememind100]

If allan holdsworth was a metal musician

[@NickATFGuitarMan]

Totally agree man. You're the first person ive seen acknowledge this besides me. I wonder how much fredrik had studied Allan's playing. Seems like a lot. Cheers!

[@tarkenton3895]

@@NickATFGuitarMan fredrik has stated he's a massive fan of Allan's

[@voidabstraction]

@@NickATFGuitarMan WTF literally everyone states this. Check any Fredrik content lololol.

[@ooferrell]

@@NickATFGuitarMan Yea lol me and my buddy always talk about his holdsworth solos

[@zhamoua]

this poor quality can’t justify their monster playing, what happens to Fredrik and MESHUGGAH cos i saw a 2017 show n he replaced with another guitarist. and i’m going to their show @ the SPACE OF ACES in sacramento california in united states can anyone fill me in please

[@alexislozano233]

This is the existence of the non-existence of duality expressing the radiance of ultimate reality. |mL

[@sn47som]

So we dont get to see Morgan or the bass player for 16 minutes .......

[@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401]

0:58 when you can see someone’s eye boogers you know you’re too close.

[@MathijsIgnoul]

Was this recorded with a toaster? Damn.

[@xiaozhenwei]

look how young Morgan is LOL. this was probably recorded in maybe 1999 or some shit

[@TheCleansingx]

I think we should be happy there is any video of this at all!

[@mikepostdrums]

@@xiaozhenwei This is actually 2008, haha

[@woobi4739]

12:09 My favorite clean tone in the world. I would love to learn how to get that tone.

[@SovereignKing]

Pretty damn sure it's the Line 6. Just get your hands on a classic Line 6 POD and you'll nail it. Those things produce the best cleans ever man.

[@pipespeeps5349]

@@SovereignKing fr

[@pipespeeps5349]

compression chorus and delay =)

[@Adieu]

holy fuck

[@ba55note53]

At 18:12 you can see Alec Kahney from Tesseract.

[@PleaseForgiveYourself]

*ACLE*

[@pewpeww4765]

So much clipping. But still good footage tho. Thnx much sir.

[@lisanders11]

Gosh! This was some sort of a very short crusade. Thordendahl, Ågren and Eklundh combined is a strong force. Who is the bass player? It would have been an even bigger blast if he could be heard. And these guys with that accordionplayer?? Wow!!

[@andersthorstensson4347]

Gustaf Hielm, ex Meshuggah and resident bass player for Mats Morgan. 👌

[@lisanders11]

@@andersthorstensson4347 Aaah! Hadn´t a clue, but I've followed Meshuggah since Contradictions Collapse and I've seen he's bassist on some (?) albums, Tack för upplysningen, Anders! Mats o Morgan med honom är ju sanslöst svängigt!!

[@Cestariarts]

Does anybody know what's the expression pedal Fredrik uses?

[@PARAMONARIOS]

I was wondering the same!

[@tarkenton3895]

Any expression pedal will work because the effect is being done in the line 6 unit behind him I think. It's just a delay effect where it jumps between a short delay time (set at the heel of the expression) and a slightly higher time at the toe. You really just need to feel out the settings to get the right warble.

[@PARAMONARIOS]

Tarkenton thanks, man! I was really shockef when I saw him doing the same thing during rhythm parts of Meshuggah songs! Non-stop fast foot-rocking!

[@FranHn1982]

A sonic aberration... so sad that an epic performance suffers this lack of audio quality ☹

[@BrandTLD]

There are overloads but this makes it different from original studio record ....

[@origamofficial]

What kind of pedal is that?

[@tarkenton3895]

Any expression pedal will work because the effect is being done in the line 6 unit behind him I think. It's just a delay effect where it jumps between a short delay time (set at the heel of the expression) and a slightly higher time at the toe. You really just need to feel out the settings to get the right warble.

[@MichelOliveiraOfficial]

OMG!!!!

[@sand1d]

Special ( Widdly widdly) defects!

[@Aki-eq4kf]

I love this album, great piece of music.

[@illuddivinus3309]

I feel like Fredrick was the first PC troll with that band name.

[@charlestompkins8433]

It just ends with the random accordian player LMAO👍

[@bonusflaps1749]

This is the greatest thing I’ve seen all day.

[@Onionbaron]

Morgan... Lars Hollmer!!!!!!!!!

[@bobbydigital8111]

Alan is listening❤

[@MrXionarc]

Is this old footage? Everyone looks much younger here

[@adamnilsson566]

Yeah, I think the only previous footage of this gig is this video from 2008, I think that's the year it happened kzbin.info/www/bejne/fojGYqV9rcaAftU

[@Julian66666666666666]

Navaneeth Premkumar it's on melloboat 2008

[@icespittingfire]

incredible the way it ends just when the accordion man comes on.. what a tease!!

[@balazsguraly3812]

whats that pedal Fredrik stepping on?? anyone knows?

[@martim_trindade]

the main pedal is Digitech ricochet and then he uses an expression pedal to adjust the timing on it giving it that tremoly sound

[@martim_trindade]

thats what people say, i myself only use the expression pedal to modify the delay timing and it sounds exactly like it

[@jumatm]

Does anybody know what's that pitch pedal he's using right at the begining of the video? 0:15 0:25

[@AndreaCavallaroPapalla021]

I think that's an exp pedal connected to Vetta II (maybe controlling delay time as he usually do)

[@djentmaster33]

It's a behringer midi controller controlling the delay parameters

[@Chugz-n-Hugz]

I just commented "hey isn't that Matthias IA Eklundh?" Then realised who'd uploaded the "random video" i'd clicked on. It's been a day. This is amazing, would love more music from Mr Thordendal

[@Hydrajenah]

SDX2

[@guatemetal4041]

Polyrythmical awesomeness

[@pretamane9646]

synchrogasm

[@johnlamberty6131]

pinnacle of music

[@tincancolossus5155]

Loving the Carnatic influence.

I love that video so much !!! I gives me goosebumps

[@ivyhallquist3159]

Four absolute madmen [in the best way possible] up onstage.

[@Hegel2011able]

I looked this concert just because I'm a fan of Lars Hollmer (and his bands Zaamla Mamas Manna, von Zamla and all his Progrock-Bands he played in including and especially 'Accordion Tribe') and of Morgan and Mats too ... and then I discovered Fredrik and you ... I'm captivated by 'Sol Niger Within' ...

[@P3t3rPizzarelli]

Does anyone know what the deal is with the expression pedal Fredrik uses?

[@djentmaster33]

It controls the delay parameters. I've been trying to nail this for years. Only 1 guy has and he has a video of it on Instagram. He achieved it perfectly.

[@PARAMONARIOS]

@@djentmaster33 clould you share the link PLEASE??? I was wondering about it for years!

[@ari-pekkaheikkila3907]

@@djentmaster33 I have been wondering this for ages and haven't found anyone to try to copy that sound. I tried instagram but couldn't find anything... Do you know whats the main principal here?

[@djentmaster33]

@@ari-pekkaheikkila3907 sorry guys I just now seen this let me find it really quick I'll tell you his Instagram page name.

[@djentmaster33]

@@PARAMONARIOS sorry I just seen this I'll find his instagram page real quick

[@WTFuneral]

oh my fucking god

[@adamnilsson566]

Fan va gôtt! har länge velat se det här!

[@anon4ik-of9hd]

I love this Fredrik's custom Ibanez. So minimalistic and solid, pure monolith. Very interesting which scale length on this one, maybe 26.5? And what kind of bridge he used, i know that is Ibanez edge tremolo, but fixed this or not. I really want someday custom replica of this model but with reverse headstock.

[@pipespeeps5349]

same, pretty suure its a 27 inch scale, would love this just 8 string and 28,5 scale

[@アナールオナール]

Hyper Real !!!

[@drumdalf]

Amazing to see all of them perform in that level while smiling in pure joy. I love that music🤘

[@KrazyDirtWeed]

probably the worst audio i've ever heard! the mic is melting! lol

[@mitchgruen2797]

Anyone know what year this is originally from?

[@coldcharlie580]

best metal album ever made

[@BassRocker617]

When Mattias hits the scale fragment section of his solo at 8:32 I immediately transcend this shitty fucking astral realm

[@DIERAPPER]

Fredrik !!! tks i love my meshuggah picks

[@BravoIllusion]

Same here the 33 picks are tremendous

[@flashchrome]

It just makes me smile... Thanks for sharing.

[@human3442]

That´s wild.. no other words fit, just wild

[@tetra3000]

3:45 that solo is so damn good love that way he uses the whammy bar on this

[@luisbarrera5740]

Laney and Line 6. What an interesting combo

[@deadbydawndk]

Audio has that nice Norwegian Black Metal Lo Fi-vibe..

[@meecob]

This would of been great if it wasn't for the shit audio

[@claytoncardoso4538]

Frederico is the best musician of the century.

[@gallenstephens]

665th! i was 33 when i cut a third of 3 fangers off... thanks Fred

[@monkeyrobotsinc.9875]

man those rising trembar chords at the very end are cool as fuck.