Free Speech, Censorship, & Misinformation Debate w/ Destiny

Happy Monday everyone! Here is Part 2 of my conversation with Progressive liberal debater and streamer Steven Bonnell aka @destiny. In today’s episode we debate the issues of censorship, misinformation, and free speech. This is just Part 2 of a much longer discussion, so keep an eye out for more coming soon!
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[@machellovelivelife658]

I find Destiny's pace of speech oddly conducive to my short attention span; he can speak fast but still enunciate well....just get to the point. Love it LOL

[@nerysghemor5781]

It’s kinda like Ben Shapiro. Bet he’d find that funny…actually the two of them going at it would be funny. 😂

[@redjr2832]

yeah i get very bored with slow speakers

[@Arrvss.]

You can watch things in 2 times speed as well for that

[@machellovelivelife658]

@@Arrvss. yea, I only discovered that feature was available maybe a few days ago 😅

[@Arrvss.]

​@@machellovelivelife658 Oh ok, I guess it's easy to overlook. I started watching every video at 1.7 or 1.6 speed too after I discovered that there's an extension that can use the speed you set in it as a default. Before that it would reset for each video, so it was a bit tedious. I think the extension's called "improve youtube" btw.

[@thepalindromeadept9596]

Destiny and Shapiro are the only ones who force me to set the video speed to normal

[@menkaragamble8175]

The best thing about Destiny is that if you think you have a great argument he always welcomes challengers. Would love to see some of the people here that know he's wrong on something hop on stream some time and lay out some arguments 🙂

[@jimothyj2638]

Most rightoids who debate him don't end up coming back for seconds... wonder why

[@chrisbosh584]

@@jimothyj2638 bro you arent making us look good with this comment 🤣

[@MohitKumar-jf8lz]

The best thing about destiny is u can bang his gf.

[@Demyk7]

@@jimothyj2638 they usually end up looking really stupid when they're put in an environment where they actually have to argue for and back up their views.

[@futurereflections4097]

Debating or talking with Destiny would be wise for conservatives, me being one I guess (only Trump), he makes you, or helps you, pick apart and articulate all of the aspects of your belief. Listening to Destiny is always like a thought exercise.

[@iiPotatoes]

Wish you'd just upload the whole interview. It's been forever since part one released.

[@Arrvss.]

Agreed. Wonder why it's taking this long to be honest.

[@kazer353]

She lost the debate he’s not a college kid

[@kallekallessons]

@@kazer353 Wasn't really a debate they just shared points of views and agreed with each other for the most part. A conversation.

[@GeriatricPimp]

​@@kallekallessonsA "conversation" is what she wanted to upload. I don't think she wants to come at destiny with the same energy she uses with lay people.

[@greasyguido]

Props to Destiny for doing these. Even if we do disagree on certain topics, I think he truly believes what he says and does his best to back it up with facts, as opposed to a lot of leftists who purposefully say things they don't believe or support logical fallicies to avoid negative kickback from the wokes.

[@Beowulf002]

that's literally what Amala does, it's like she stopped doing it for the left and switched to the right but is doing the same exact thing, only right wingers agree with her so they don't criticize her for this.

[@MrTriple3D]

@@Beowulf002 its impossible to change your mind is what youre saying

[@ezekieltete6584]

@@MrTriple3D it’s impossible to change your mind as well

[@MrTriple3D]

@@ezekieltete6584 not the point i was making genius. read what he said.

[@seanengler6423]

there’s more of these “destiny’s” out there. you just haven’t looked far enough

[@calvinbutler1919]

I respect Destiny's approach to language. His whole gist is he may not like a word and doesn't think it should be used but he doesn't believe in stopping anyone else from using word in question. He has a reasonable approach.

[@yevgeniygrechka6431]

She got the freakanomics story completely wrong. The guy who was named 'Winner' ended up failing at life, and the guy named 'Loser' did quite well for himself. People called him 'Lou'.

[@EdertheJust]

This is PragerU. They really don't do much research.

[@theslyngl]

She's a dumb grifter what a surprise

[@wonderlandian8465]

Well, she got it twisted but she got the point of the story. It's basically the same concept just applied to different personality types can amount to different results

[@colinm.3419]

Thank you for this comment- I read the book years ago and what she said didn't seem right.

[@robriceridge]

Is this a debate or a conversation?Conversation I'd say.

[@shadesteel9247]

Discussion?

[@carpetbhread]

I wasn’t really a big fan of destiny before this, but I’m glad that I watched this. I understand his viewpoint a little more and will be more willing to watch his content and listen to him in the future.

[@futurereflections4097]

He had conversations with Nick F when conservatives wouldn't because he questioned foreign aid to Isreal. The right are a bunch of hypocrites. Destiny isn't just a breath of fresh air for a liberal. He is a breath of fresh air period.

[@pickenchews]

In the context of that saying, the lies are intrinsically more entertaining and catchy than the truth, because they tend to spring from a visceral hunger for a more simple and sensational story than the boring, complicated truth.

[@bestsellingbeatdown9162]

Honestly, the truth is usually less complex. For instance, a hugely popular worldview is that everything is controlled by a highly sophisticated, global cabal. They tip the scales and set trends in motion, like a world wide Rube Goldberg Machine. it often involves fantasy and the occult, going as far as to claim an impending Satanic Apocalypse. They see infinitely unraveling patterns and conspiracy in even the most benign phenomena. But the reality is that there are tens of thousands of disjointed, Uber wealthy individuals, all racing to snag as much property as humanly possible. It's like trickle down economics, but instead of money the poors get stripped of all "excess" property, time, and space. And it's not a conspiracy, it's capitalism. It's not satanists eating babies, it's corporate tax evasion. It's not a secret order of pedos teasing their existence to the world, it's an edgy advert that shouldn't have been made. Etc...

[@CitizenoftheWorld1]

I lean to the left but I'm tired of the adderall + shots of coffee woke rhetoric and we need people like Destiny to bring us back to the middle. I hope more would follow suit

[@futurereflections4097]

Trump train still has room. I was left but could acknowledge the economy Trump built, and Trump did build it and was going to go further with small business investment and trad deals, then I saw the peace treaties, and was looking for something social and domestic. Then- first step act, thousands freed for over sentencing for drugs, overdose rate dropped for the first time in over 20 years, and Epstein went to jail. Compared to a known Jim Crow racist, who is admittedly corrupt and clearly a pedo. Now I am wondering how so many on the left couldn't throw off those party ties. He was even working on price matching an middleman elimination in the healthcare industry that was being smeared as socialist.

[@prometheus5405]

Destiny is a lib and you're not 'left' enough.

[@KP4views]

@@prometheus5405they said “lean to the left” ofcourse they aren’t “left enough”

[@MultiFisherofmen]

Why am I agreeing with this guy more and more

[@harijotkhalsa9496]

Because he probably represents a more accurate view of what most "lefties" are like.

[@gaychampagnesocialist7213]

He's a moderate lefty, even people who think he's silly still have quite a bit of respect for him, especially since he goes after 'the left' for being idiots.

[@arjunravichandran1768]

He is sensible.

[@RachelDee]

In short, I think the Right has made the mistake in always assuming anyone left is the same as a caricature in their head. And Destiny disproves that presumption really well. His family is right wing, and believes in the value of both sides keeping each other from going too far. And he's definitely not in favor of the increasing number of extremists on the left. He knows how to listen in good faith and has worked really hard on his conversational rhetoric because he truly believes it matters and helps the country. He learned how to define his own consistent first principles by being really well read.

[@reigenlucilfer6154]

@@RachelDee its not a right left thing. the left also lump every right wing person into a monolith when there are many right wingers that dont agree with each other. i think its just human nature. we're living in a modern society where tribalism is on the rise again. only sensible and moderate people, no matter where they stand, can acknowledge that just because someone is affiiliated with certain group, doesnt mean that theyre the same.

[@nastynate2005]

Omg give me the full interview already!! Ughhh such a good conversation

[@AnotherCroydonWanabi]

It was the other way around, Winner went on to be a convict (for drug crimes I think) and Lou (Loser) went on to be the chief of police.

[@Nikonfanboy1982]

You’re a great conservative voice, extremely talented interviewer, sharp. I am very impressed and I love Destiny please bring him back I’d love to see a bit more spice between you both but the friendly kind.

[@teckyify]

I'm not much of a social media person and I'm surprised how much energy people put into fighting over things which have mostly nothing to do with things they should be more concerned in their everyday life. How much time do people spend on these platforms?

[@clydekimsey7503]

Too much

[@sougetsukazama]

Every waking moment their eyes are open lol.

[@Sunglare1]

This social media stuff is now embedded into corporation and other areas of the job market. It's because of head in the sand people like you that things have gotten as bad as they have.

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

Political people spend much of the discussion on social media, and probably overrated its important to the wider world, because it's their primary method of input/interface with the world, at least in regards to their field. That's why it seems so obsessive to them, because it's thier job. It's sorta like how if you were a poultry farmer and there's bird flu going around that problem becomes a bit of an obsession because it's so direct In what you do. It's not even like a addiction thing when it comes to social media for these people, it's just a bubble thing, it just makes alot of conversations seem super obsessive for us on the outside and who use social media in a more "normal manner". It's just two bubbles brushing up against the other, just one is very public.

[@johnlondon5516]

Political social media platforms sell manufactured outrage by broadcasting the most extreme fringe voices. They are doing the most harm during this culture war than anything else.

I like this guy! Thanks for having him on.

[@nrbism9614]

Hey there! Just wanted to say that I really like your set; the hanging mics makes everything look so much cleaner, and isn't something I really see being done anymore. Nice job!

[@mikojenson4525]

Such a nice discussion between these two young women. ❤

[@mashedpotatoes4849]

funny joke, but cmon, calling less masculine men women just supports the rather extreme sides of the trans movement. "oh you're a feminine man? woman haha" and "oh you're a feminine man? transition" are basically the same sentiment just a 'different font'

[@mikojenson4525]

@@mashedpotatoes4849 It's a running joke in Destiny's community that Destiny is a girl's name (Specifically, a Black stripper's name). It's not that serious.

[@mashedpotatoes4849]

@@mikojenson4525 ohhhh ok sorry for missing the joke

[@LeslieFlemons]

Fun and interesting conversation! Destiny can be respectful!

[@thetrib1]

Although...this was pre blue hair. Times have changed dramatically

[@roteschwert]

The problem with just blocking specific slurs or swear words is that there's currently no granular control that allows to discern between their malicious or benign or academic usages

[@minagelina]

What does he mean the right spots out more misinformation? About what exactly? If it's about COVID, the right has been more correct than not. If it's about something else, then prove it.

[@thilli1859]

Covid, the election, trumps record

[@shadesteel9247]

@@thilli1859 what about the election? And Covid had ALOT of misinformation on both sides in general due to stupidity of our parties.

[@thilli1859]

@@shadesteel9247 the Q shit that 15% of republicans believe?

[@shadesteel9247]

@@thilli1859 Q? What is q stuff?

[@shadesteel9247]

@@thilli1859 and 15% is a minority, you could say 15% of democrats believe that all men are naturally bad and deserve hate just because they're male.

[@jmac6938]

My father told me (I cleaned it up for Censor'd sake) "The difference between the left and right is big crap and little crap, either way you're still getting crap."

[@bel8265]

these need to be longer!

[@RJR1787]

It would be if this dude spoke at a normal pace. I'm 5 mins in and I've given up

[@Pharaohx115]

I do believe in free speech but I also believe in accountability for your actions. 👍💯

[@senkenkai]

Like what exactly?

[@Pharaohx115]

@@senkenkai like if someone says something rascit to anyone group of people get their channels taken 👎 for hate speech

[@Pharaohx115]

But also I don't think that people should be cancelled over people who disagree with someone

[@shadesteel9247]

@@Pharaohx115 what about if its a newly decidedly racist word, like cracker? Twitch made that word bannable.

[@voidtempering8700]

@@shadesteel9247 That word was always racist.

[@SFUPodcast]

I disagree with Destiny on a lot of issues (mainly that he thinks Biden is a good president) but I am center right so that’s not saying much…. But I watch Destiny pretty regularly because he’s the most honest person I’ve found on the left. Vaush and Hasan are terribly stupid but Destiny seems to change his mind when presented with evidence. So all of that is to say, I AM a fan of Destiny and I have a lot of respect for him.

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

Are you still a fan of him?

[@SFUPodcast]

@@stellamariefanboy.6768 nope, he literally said he would make fun of his conservative fans if they were killed. He’s too far gone. All his lefty followers saying he picks on the left too much must’ve gotten to him so now he just shits on conservatives. At one time he at least would defend a conservative who was level headed, now it’s “death to all conservatives”.

[@meganmarts5769]

Why can't we all just set our own censorship we want to see on social media? The tech is there. I don't need anyone else to decide what words are okay for me to use. Also when speaking on the free speech topic I think it's important we make 2 separate points about individual words being censored and political ideas and/or conspiracy theories.

[@SlurMaster9000]

This is the most frustrating part of content moderation for me. Twitter and Reddit already have this approach for NSFW content, so why not just add people to built-in blocklists for hate speech, profanity, being furries, blasphemy, etc.?

[@meganmarts5769]

@@SlurMaster9000 yeah, instead of worrying about who said the word worry about who hears the word

[@chasmurphy1227]

because the push for censorship has nothing to do with protecting people.

[@harrygraham5810]

Twitch politics Is just an echo chamber, drama, and screaming most the time. Destiny is the only one I ever seem to really get a articulate view from on anything.

[@kain-5362]

most of politics is that, old and young, left and right. they all do the same shit categorize, label, and ridicule.

[@harrygraham5810]

@@kain-5362 yep definitely dude

[@1dpaisley]

I do like Destiny! Always has interesting takes..

[@markrwatanabe]

Is this a “debate”? She is asking questions where he comes across as super smart, but it seemed like she was very much avoiding any confrontation.

[@DJ-ov2it]

presumably because she knows she would get destroyed

[@unknownsword9042]

@@DJ-ov2it Or maybe the point was to get to see what his views are? Jesus you guys are so up your own ass about "Destiny pwns losers" you really remind me of the hardcore Ben Shapiro fans.

[@DJ-ov2it]

@@unknownsword9042 Keep rationalizing. Also the difference between Shen Bapiro and Destiny is that Shapiro likes to destroy 17 year old first semester college students whereas Destiny actually takes on people of his own "caliber".

[@chasmurphy1227]

@@DJ-ov2it That would be a great argument if Ben Shapiro didn't also debate people of his own "caliber"....or if Destiny didn't also do the same thing by inviting random people in his chat to debate topics he is ideologically opposed to.

[@tribuneofmercy6184]

I'm seeing a lot of people get silenced for expressing views that aren't hate speech, but are merely conservative leaning. It's really worrisome that nobody is policing the "police" as it were. I have leaned left my whole life, but the things that are being banned in the name of hate speech are really crazy. And I think people have greatly overstepped in their perceived responsibilities to police the internet.

[@roteschwert]

Can't believe they brought him on to discuss slur usage 😂

[@ericstaples7220]

I feel a little bad for Destiny. I think the reason he lost his platforms might actually be because he gives debates to conservatives and lends them a voice.

[@CaliMex96]

Your in a victim mindset. Unironically

[@EdertheJust]

He normally proves why they are wrong, so that wouldn't be it.

[@whasian1487]

He defended Kyle Rittenhouse. Which was offensive to the twitch overlords. He was on thin ice after that.

[@josephcoon5809]

@@EdertheJust Regardless of who “wins” an argument (or what you see as a win, your opponent sees a loss), the Left is always beating the drum of “don’t give them a platform.”

[@josephcoon5809]

@@whasian1487 Exactly.

[@kdub3288]

I respect Destiny a lot more than I used to but he’s still got a ways to go. How about all of this “misinformation” that ends up coming to be true 6 months later?

[@moosechuckle]

Yeah it would be great if he pointed out some of these cases of “misinformation.”

[@gravitatemortuus1080]

@@moosechuckle He would talk about climate change and CRT. That if you did not believe it as he does its misinformation. He hints at in the conversation if you listen.

[@SkyEcho751]

I believe a better statement would be "The right is more prone to controversial information, regardless of if it can be confirmed at that moment" which would closer to the truth. Also, wasn't there a study that people the right believes Babylon Bee posts as real by almost 28%... But that was done by rewriting the headlines to look as real as possible then asking if they believed the statement/headline was true. Really hope he wasn't basing his belief on the Snopes article.

[@redacted2275]

"A lot more"... people are satisfied with so little.

[@b00g3rs21]

@@moosechuckle I agree, I was waiting to hear some examples of this. I think it's more likely that the group he is talking about is more willing to spitball ideas and collaborate intellectually rather than sticking to a monolithic narrative?

[@MsJimmysgirl]

I miss the good old days before people got into social media. I grew up in the 80s when there was no internet and no cell phones so if you wanted to talk to someone you had to call them on the landline phone or write them a letter. Things were so much more personal then instead of people hiding behind their phone or computer screens going on social media and saying to someone what they would never ever say in person. In my opinion, I think social media has playing a huge part in what is happening to society today especially tik tok. Tik tok is a social contagion that can be largely blamed for all the de-transitioners and people faking conditions that just want attention. I don't care so much about misinformation because there are so many ways to fact check anything that you hear online but I am bothered by what is happening to free speech. Now if you don't agree with something someone has said you can just call it hate speech especially if you are left leaning. I remember when debate was a subject in high school so that two students could debate about a certain subject to being difference views but I seriously doubt you see that anymore. I also get so tired of all the activism if it isn't BLM it's transactivist or it's the body positive movement or it's gender ideology or it's LGBT subject in school. These days they call anyone either racist, transphobic, fatphobic or homophobic or blame everything on white supremacy like math or classical music ( which I personally love). I wish I had a time machine to go back to the 80s and get out of clown world.

[@lylejames965]

Yeh, people should have woken up earlier, no pun intended,to the writing that was on the wall,even in the 80s. Marxism in Universities and dumbing down of schools been going on for a long time

[@DP-ic2lz]

Ah the 80s. Where you could kill a black man. Beat your wife and children and enjoy a large house with no crippling debt

[@PluviophileTraveller]

I was just thinking about the debate class I took in junior high school! We debated contentious topics and had to formulate our arguments and rebuttals reasonably, which meant listening to what the other side said. Otherwise, we couldn't have had a strong enough rebuttal. I also remember being assigned to argue for the opposing side's point. So construct an argument based on what they would say, even though you don't believe it yourself. I would love to see people trying to listen to and understand each other that way today.

[@whyhellotherestranger]

Social media was a lot of fun before it went mainstream. It became a wasteland once the phone apps came out and everybody too stupid to operate a computer flooded it

[@cameron4332]

boomer

[@Christoffer13]

Watch in 0.75 to have them sound like regular people.

[@Radiatron18]

I’m disabled and we have thick skin I even tell my friends to call me a cripple so honestly I think you can just say whatever you want

[@variabledust6922]

11:54 - the old internet was a wild crazy place where we are saying shit that would make hitler blush 😂

[@asunnynight9592]

Oh, about free speech, I think it's interesting that Destiny's still banned from Twitter. Surely it's not because he's left leaning.

[@cmoerike01]

Big respect to destiny for engaging 😎

[@NaritusPwN]

Destiny getting censored in this because prager u wants money lol

[@Bl4ckDoT_]

Can you release the full unedited interview instead of juicing it out over 12 months

[@Classicv5]

Destiny always has a massive case of cognitive dissonance when “misinformation” is true

[@hermittmog8697]

The R word is just as "bad" as the F (gay) word.

[@balla2828]

Everyone should have the free opportunity to enter into the absolute fucking gulags of the prior generation's internet/chat room experience. Does not mean that you have to BUT to remove that opportunity completely is a fatal mistake and will likely be extremely stunting to various forms of growth that coming generations would otherwise experience.

[@fatt9796]

The internet pre 1998 when only smart people were able to get online.. As disgusting as chat could get they were the best years of the internet.

[@jessespencer6330]

Very honestly and truly wish I could meet a woman like you Amala, your definitely a Maureen O'Hara and NOT a Jessica Rabbit. Whatever man ends up marrying you should definitely count his blessings and thank Jesus and God

[@emikochan13]

the name thing at the end is such a good point, if you get bullied for your name that sets you up so badly, and it's an avoidable thing.

[@Skeer0]

Speaking at the Shapiro speed isn't doing anyone any favors. It's very easy to get lost when one is trying to take in everything that's said. Good topic though and conversation.

[@intello8953]

Lmao I find it hilarious that this video has a PragerU logo on it and PragerU literally never shows it’s sources on their “education” videos 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@rachaelroessler9978]

Epic interview ❤

[@RJR1787]

It would be if this guy didn't speak like he'd just spoked a bowl of crack. He speaks so fast it is almost unlistenable

[@eyeCU.00]

There's no one size fits all to anything in life... This is why nuance is necessary for clarity

[@rjim1]

"the right spreads more misinformation" 🤣🤣🤣

[@oreally8605]

Totally brainwashed lefty. Bet he can't prove a darn thing.

[@mitjamackenzie1219]

"Covid-19 is a hoax" "Masks don't help you they were just made by the government to gain money" "The Moon Landing was faked"

[@Bl4ckDoT_]

Vaccines save lives, the right is against vaccines and the science of vaccines. They spread misinformation regarding vaccines that have tangible negative effects in the real world and cause loss of life.

[@technoloverish]

Yes. There's no proof that vaccines cause autism, there's no proof God exists, there's no proof that black people are genetically inferior, etc, all of which are lies spread by conservatives

[@rjim1]

@@technoloverish That's a few things from the last five decades, believing in God is purely a US conservative thing too and not important in the UK whatsoever so you can wipe that nonsense off the list, as is the abortion thing, these are not really what being on the right means in my country. Also have you lived through the last few years and heard all the total lunacy peddled by leftists that was all proven to be utter falsehoods?? My God, you might want to poke your head out from whatever rock you're under and take a look around! WOW!! 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@justincider8892]

I really wish you would have asked how he quantifies what side spreads more misinformation.

[@Rubberbandman0529]

yeah, when he said the right spreads 'way more' misinformation than the left, he lost some respect from me

[@JimC]

14:30 Wikipedia on MKUltra (emphasis added, footnotes omitted): 'Ted Kaczynski, an American domestic terrorist known as the Unabomber, was *said to be* a subject of a voluntary psychological study *alleged* by some sources to have been a part of MKUltra. As a sophomore at Harvard, Kaczynski participated in a study described by author Alston Chase as a "purposely brutalizing psychological experiment", led by Harvard psychologist Henry Murray. In total, Kaczynski spent 200 hours as part of the study.' I'm not saying Destiny is wrong, but I hope he has something better than "alleged" and "said to be".

[@wtrbns]

That last 2 sentences have neither of those words, which phrasing signals me the evidence for the assertions was deemed reasonably convincing

[@phoenixfire8226]

I've always been on the fence about Destiny, but after watching this interview I'm 100% certain it's a girl's name.

[@agav2345]

3:04 The Demon tried to come out there LMAO

[@dannylammy]

kill your- be done or whatever :)

[@JuliAuditore]

The intrusive thought almost won

[@datboijdope]

@11:00 I agree with Amala. We shouldn't police words. We should have some kind of policy where you're allowed to say whatever you want and give any kind of political opinions you want, just as long as you're not causing an immediate threat to the physical wellbeing of others as well as some other notable exceptions. What should we call that, though? 🤔

[@ttff9016]

I think both sides can agree, we need more healthy discourse. And we need to attack things in a growth mindset where we challenge our beliefs and actually listen to one another.

[@RJR1787]

Holy shit. Why does this whole thing seem like it's playing at 1.5x. I havent smoked weed for 10 years but it's making me feel high AF

[@Seethi_C]

Destiny is my favorite liberal

[@iamhereblossom1588]

8:47 That word is definitely used to attack developmentally disabled people, Destiny.

[@thebridge707]

I hate to love destiny but he's my favorite fence sitting lefty.

[@jocec3283]

I strongly disagree with him on one major topic : Misinformation is mostly a LEFTIST tool. NOT conservative.

[@NoXplanation]

It's just difficult to take progressives serious when they don't practice what they preach. Don't offend ppl or use slurs while at the same time they try to insult ppl with opposing views by using slurs. It's disingenuous

[@thetrib1]

I feel like you can swap every group with progressive in that first sentence, and make a supporting statement to help buffer the point. Every group.

[@kain-5362]

similar to the other guys comment, you can really say this about any political group.

[@NoXplanation]

@@kain-5362 nah, it's different though

[@kain-5362]

@@NoXplanation not really tbh.

[@MasterMLG07]

Amala said it beautifully. "Word-shifting" - I think that makes perfect sense given human history and the evolving nature of language. One hopes that words originally used to manifest hatred will all become used to describe rather than degrade.

[@xprsnoflove]

The right does what? He has mastered the art of speaking fast about why a lie is believable. A dangerous person addicted to making himself look good to please his own ego.

[@mitjamackenzie1219]

Offended much? Let's not forget their are plenty of good people on both sides (left and right) and plenty of bad people. Plenty of people spreading misinformation from both sides.

[@xprsnoflove]

@@mitjamackenzie1219 no. There is absolutely no comparison at all. The word plenty in your reply is accurate and I'm not saying your comment in and of itself is inaccurate, but I do want to say that in the context of his statement about the right spreading way more misinformation it is wrong. Not only does the left own and operate 90% of all media (apps and tv) and therefore influence way more people than the right with misinformation (and the TV is nothing but misinformation so that's not hyperbole), but the left also indoctrinates the entire public school population with misinformation more and more every single year. The worst (most impact) are in middle school and college kids. The street-interview content all over the web proves this beyond the shadow of a doubt and there isn't much anyone can do to prove it further because there are too many ways to fabricate poll studies. No disrespect to you and I apologize for the long comment, but there is no comparison and his statement as well as his KZbin channel is dangerous.

[@gravitatemortuus1080]

@@mitjamackenzie1219 On that yes, I agree, but that's not what the person in the video said. The guy in the video was stroking his own ego by pointing to the right.

[@eunn6949]

dangerous person?

[@xprsnoflove]

@@eunn6949 a whole threat to the integrity of the cohesive comprehension of wisdom underlying the conservation of lessons we learned (and are learning) watching the leftists destroy America and its value systems.

[@tallyink]

I guess I’m from the old internet too. I would not say that the internet opened up - all those people were already on the internet at that time, they just weren’t all categorized in little groups. You didn’t know the race/sex/age/orientation of anybody because they didn’t feel the need to tell you…I’m generalizing of course, but I do think it’s a weird take to have, and I don’t think Destiny is actually old enough to be part of what he’s calling “old internet,” at least not for very long. At his age, computers were fairly commonplace for most homes and schools. At the point that there were chat rooms, people were already organizing themselves into groups, but they were (at least as far as I recall) focused more on interests like hobbies, or geographical location. It was very rudimentary because it was slow and home computers were expensive so there were fewer people online.

[@Grimscribe732]

Okay, as a non-native speaker and someone not living in America, what the fuck is the R-Word? I, obviously, know about the N-Word, and have even heard of the C-Word, but what the F-Word is the R-Word? Edit: The bleeping of the R-Word should've been a Goose honking to fit Destiny's shirt. Huge missed opportunity.

[@GenXican84]

He's just describing the fact that most humans are sheepleand thus tend to be indifferent at peace and emotional when perturbed..no duh..

[@Turn-the-Page]

The guy can talk even faster than Ben Shapiro! Quite hard to follow! 😮

[@JimC]

Custom speed is very useful!

[@TreadingtheBorderlands]

He talks 3x faster and idk how it’s even possible

[@RJR1787]

Thank you. I thought I had it on 1.5x. I thought there was something wrong with me for a good minute 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Turn-the-Page]

@@RJR1787 😂

[@caffeinezombies]

With regards to words - it is too difficult to navigate reasons to not use a word. Today someone may prefer people do not use the word Guys, and not even blink at the word Folks. Guys started as a negative, to say you are as a failure (referencing Guy Fawkes the failed bomber of the parliament). It was derogatory, but then taken up as a call to arms in later rebellions as something of a hero. Fast forward through heroic being seen as manly, and men, and then eventually a catch all. Folks, however, was used as a term to degrade rural people who weren't part of the aristocracy. Folk stories, folk myths, folks - uneducated rural people. Today? At best we've gotten to the point that it is a common catch all from the south, but in the USA we often use southern accents to indicate someone is uneducated, folks is made fun of, it hasn't come very far compared to guys. I'm a leftist, progressive, I believe in free speech. The only way you can identify if someone meant ill by using the word is talking to the person and their contextual understanding. I would be hard pressed to reasonably come to a conclusion that either of these words ought to be avoided 100% of the time. I don't know if there is a word like that.

[@TreadingtheBorderlands]

The thing about incels is on the nail. Don’t take away their place or they will get even worse

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

I have to hard disagree with the right spreading more misinformation. Case and point, pretty much everything around Covid-19.

[@sandrakessler5499]

Why did you not challenge Destiny’s initial comment that the right puts out more misinformation than the left? He talks so quickly that half of what he says zips right by an interviewer, in this case you.

[@wandarah]

This is Ike saying the sky is blue

[@Kpmg12]

So 2 weeks per quarter ep…. God damn

[@MrMrjchips]

I love that his concept of of words that are ok to use comes down to "does I feel like it matters " Yup, that's how language works. You say what you want. Good on you Infinity!

[@MrMrjchips]

@Prasanth Thomas good correction.

[@zzghost8593]

Amazin

14:50 I am one of those people 100% and I think it’s because I’m autistic!!

[@mrboost4186]

Yeah I am autistic too and maybe fit this category

[@diandragomez6208]

Yeah this wasn't a debate it was just an interview. This guy started put by saying the right has so much misinformation and left it like that. I wish i would know what misinformation. This sucked

[@goosestep8665]

I wish she asked him "What is the misinformation spread by the right?".

[@giorgiobevilacqua5351]

Most of the antiv*x rhetoric, the alternative treatments, man made climate change denial, all the war on Ukraine narrative and that’s just the last couple of years

[@goosestep8665]

@@giorgiobevilacqua5351 you said a lot. So let’s just focus on one thing at a time can you please tell me specifically what anti-V rhetoric was conservatives saying. Please be specific.

[@toddpacker4683]

@@goosestep8665 anti vax conspiracies, election denial, qanon. 60% of republicans think the election was rigged. And public figure like crowder and rubin say vaccines don’t work which is blatant misinformation

[@goosestep8665]

@@toddpacker4683 please please please give me a anti vax conspiracy shared by most conservatives! Please please please be specific! You have said a lot, so I’m only going to take it one at a time.

[@goosestep8665]

@@toddpacker4683 also, when did crowder say vaccine don’t work? Please cite your source!

[@Sambochini]

Destiny's opening statement is how he lives his online debate persona. At least he has that as a consistency

[@mulder13x59]

Are there still more parts of this interview coming out or was it just the two videos? I really wish it was released in full

[@ZeGuyFly]

3:01 did he almost say what I think he was going to say?

[@SzymonAdamus]

It is easy to approach the issue of disinformation so lightly if you are talking about actions that are detached from serious consequences. But this is not the case. Serious, often weaponized disinformation has very serious, often deadly consequences. The genocide in Myanmar was directly triggered by social media disinformation and Facebook's failure to sufficiently control and account for content. Issues of vaccination, climate change, etc. have the same, and probably even greater, real consequences. Only they are not immediately visible in the form of bloody killings like in Myanmar. Disinformation is nowadays a weapon that not only individual people and companies, but entire governments and regimes are reaching for. We should fight it with all our might and teach people to recognize it and verify information.

[@james_mackey]

3:04 good save Steven

[@SquishyRSX]

I want that duck shirt

[@thedrewsite]

DesTiny

[@ankamahclement]

Good audio

[@mclovinrubbin]

The intro always a vibe

[@WW-ik7vr]

I am a firm believer of the block feature 😂 if I don't like your content it's a block simple as that... Hella ppl say they are offended by something but are instantly gravitated towards it and check that page or platform more often than others

[@blondymonk1535]

Black elves are actually canonically impossible. If you just ignore the very obvious discription of FIAR SKINNED and the fact that all elves come from the same 3 families. Even then: An elf developing black skin is impossible.

[@alexanderrahl7034]

People just _crave_ negativity online. Like, you can find a video saying something like "the history you weren't taught in schools!" And it's all this systemic racism, history through the lense of critical race theory and "look how terrible we treated these black people". And you'll see all these comments beneath it like "omg this is so terrible, we should be taught this in schools. Everyone needs to see this." But then you get the Candace Owen's of the world, or the Thomas Sowells. Like under Tom's book on Audible Black Rednecks and White Liberals. You cam easily find 1 star reviews from people like "this dude is a coon. He's lying, this is historical revisionism. Everything he says he pulls from his ass and makes up." And the clear as day difference is, one of them is something that makes you angry and is negative, the other is something that is "here are a bunch of good things we had in the past you weren't told about, and here's why they lied about it being all bad." But only 1 of them is hated. If you tell someone "I heard Trump slapped a woman's ass" And "I heard Trump gave a woman 500 bucks on the street." They'll probably believe the 1st one more than the second. Despite Trump's visible track record of giving people free money

[@govind.m86]

2:17 4:38 10:01

[@frizzneil2590]

Rapid Snappy Pseudo Intellectual Babble...Please Amala...Beeeep...where'z BOZO...

[@rachel1lynn]

b b b beta

[@dodumichalcevski]

One of the biggest b b b betas EVAAAA

[@MoralGovernment]

Just say highly regarded.

[@goddessrick8734]

Are you using a clown horn to censor him? lol.

[@MrMrjchips]

I'll get screwed for this, but the word "retarded" or "retard" are not offensive. They are offensive when you use them to describe people with a mental defect. Some people's brains, some processes, and some actions can be "retarded". Leave developmentally disabled people out of it. This will get blocked because I said a word, and didn't use it negatively. Saying a word and using it are different things.

[@reeveetalk1907]

I disagree slightly. I even think racial slurs should be allowed. We have block buttons and in certain contexts it is ok like quotes or jokes or art or songs it’s ok. As destiny said we have advanced blocking technology, why should we deplatform?