KTM 65SX VS APOLLO 125 RFZ! | 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke!

[@damoncatlin734]

The ktm sounds like it’s slapping hard

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I agree with you but I've never owned any other small CC two-stroke so I'm not sure if that's normal or abnormal.

[@damoncatlin734]

QUADNATION 929 it’s abnormal the piston is actually hitting the sides of the cylinder all it needs is a top end rebuild

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@damoncatlin734 🤔🤔 hummm, I bought it from a person that had it rebuilt at a shop and when unloaded it at my house I pulled the spark plug took a flashlight and looked at the top of the piston and it was shiny and new indicating that the top end was in fact brand new so perhaps they did something wrong during the rebuild. I was thinking if anything the lower crank bearing was going which would cause slap in the piston rod. But I've never tore down an engine that had that kind of noise so I'm not really sure what it could be. Any body else have any suggestions?

[@damoncatlin734]

QUADNATION 929 they probably didn’t replace the bearing that the rod and the piston are connected with Edit:I got a rm125 and the guy who fixed it didn’t put the bearing in

[@brodyriekofsky844]

TEC D3M0N thinking the same

[@HirakuagaKatsui]

It ain’t really a competition ktm’s professionally built and tuned so yeah.but if the Apollo was tuned better and properly and got a new carb maybe it would be stronger.

[@tiktokcomedy767]

They’re both professionally built ones just professionally built for racing on the other ones professionally built to be a cheap and reliable

[@tiktokcomedy767]

Don’t get me wrong though KTM‘s a way better company than that chinese Apollo brand obviously, but still like a TTR 125 or the honda 125 4t would still lose because they’re built for different purposes

[@Qotyn]

no IT WOULD BE FASTER DUMBY for 1 bc the ktm IS A 65cc and the apollo is a 125cc the onky reason the ktm won is bc 2 strokes have more acceleration than 4 strokes do but 4 strokes have a higher top speed if the apollo had a built and tuned up mikuni on it IT WOULD LEAVE THT KTM IN THE DUST.

[@Spookyz70]

What bike should i buy for under 1k?

[@creamyapplegaming8245]

Also the ktm is blown

[@JacobRidesBikes]

If the 4 stroke was a Suzuki or Honda it would be way more even

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I do believe the TTR 125 from Yamaha is faster than the Apollo 125.

[@caltsells6839]

Bruh u think a Honda 125 or Suzuki 125 four stroke is going to beat a ktm 65 two stroke, my ass, the ccs don’t make a difference the 65 is a race bike

[@joshwm2323]

Wr125 would smoke the ktm i reckon

[@thibo2107]

I have a friend that has a ycf its like the appolo but the ycf cost more and i had a ttr 125 and the ycf is alot faster than a ttr

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂 you guys are great! I love the competition between you guys! 👍

[@astrobeats3863]

2:39 Most american thing i've ever seen

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂

[@M1sterKiwi]

☠️

[@rafaelheikkinen6027]

Bigger carb on the 125, they always come with a smaller carb

[@sanesaint8725]

True it is all stock

[@sanesaint8725]

But still that little one just the motor you can tell is built way better it's more like a YZ like in the old days or a CR or KX

[@choconuts5414]

I put a 30mm carb on mine and it woke the bike up it keeps up a little bit with 85cc 2 strokes

[@EpicATVvlogs]

@@choconuts5414 30 mm carb on a 125 ?

[@BushkillRider]

Give the Apollo a good carb with some new sprocket ratios and it might be a closer race!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks! I'll try that!

[@bbad-0764]

Ya that’s what I did and it runs great now

[@kenna802]

What carb and sprockets would you recommend

[@TheMeagwhite]

17 tooth front sprocket and a new carb runs like a freaking beast. Fittings for jettings are hard to find though, don’t get to big of a carb it’ll just bog and cause a hassle

[@tiktokcomedy767]

Lol no

[@jagerpowell1458]

I like how you swapped bikes cause most of the time, speed is based on the rider. Sure those 2 are no where near comparable... but thanks you guys for testing it or we'd never know for sure

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

We now know huh, lol.. Thanks for the great feedback! 👍

[@oneuniversalorder3062]

I have an x pro 125 and ride with my buddy who's got a 65cc KTM. Literally the most evenly matched shit I've ever seen. Every race we run neck and neck the whole time.

[@ononewheel7]

Damn that ktm smoked him 🤣

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah that KTM was a beast and whooped the Apollo no matter which rider was on it. My brother has some really good drag racing skills so when we swapped there wasn't any difference in the outcome.

[@ononewheel7]

QUADNATION 929 i need one of those in my life be fun for pitting at the races!

[@dawgfamily5588]

ononewheel7 thanks for spoiling it

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@dawgfamily5588 😂😂😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@ononewheel7 did you have to get one I'm contemplating on keeping both now lol..

[@ampcarracing]

Stumbled onto your first impressions of the Apllo and really just loved the energy you out into your videos. I'm not a dirt bike rider just a regular street bike rider but I think you've just won me over to try out dirt bikes. Any recommendations for an entry level bike for a young 50 year old?? Active 50 year old that is!!

[@logertgogert3227]

I would say a 125 for a beginner rider but since you have experience you could be put on a 250

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

I’m 44 learning on pit bike and bought 09 crf250r. Fk me the crf is an animal but high maintenance and TOO big for my short arse legs lol. 250 good if you fit on it

[@Skskdksks]

You are definitely my favorite DB KZbinr!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Really!!?? Awesome brother! 👊😎 I appreciate you!!

[@Skskdksks]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL Getting my first bike in a month! Apollo 125!

[@TerrellSpivey]

Lollol!!! Your voiceover commentary got me dying over here!! 🤣🤣 I sorta figured that 2 stroke was gone take the cake! This was definitely hilariously epic! Lollol

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Bro You have me smiling ear to ear right now! Your comment is what is epic! "Hilariously Epic!" 😆 I was pretty sure that the KTM was going to be quicker because of its two stroke nature but I really did have faith that the Apollo was going to hold it's own on top end. Part 2 will come out this weekend which will show you exactly what a 45 pound difference between riders will make. It's actually quite impressive! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! I always try to shoot for an epic clip and I think I nailed it on this one for you! 💪 I appreciate all your support!

[@TerrellSpivey]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL yezzir brobro!! Love the content always! This one was super funny cuz of how much faster the KTM was! Lol I'll definitely be on the look out for that next race!! 💯

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@TerrellSpivey 😂😂😂 It was so much faster and that little two stroke is a screamer!

[@TerrellSpivey]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL lollol indeed it was!

[@exclusiveron8706]

“Bye bye Apollo”😂😂😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

yeah you liked that huh 😂😂😂 I have the tendency to say some crazy stuff! Lol..

[@official6arz]

I've seen 2 of your videos on dirt bikes... Bro, I want my first bike so bad now.

[@skipsterz]

Teach that boy to ring out those gears and not go through them like a granny going to church. Lol.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂😂

[@moimeme7839]

Have you changed the carburator on the apollo because that gets them way faster. The stock ones are not set properly for maximum performance. Probably for durability. That could change a lot

[@rahsmakir4226]

Another good video bro, keep it up.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks brother ✊

[@DylanO0505]

YES FINALLY CANT WAIT

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I was paying hard to get this video out for several of you! I hope you really enjoyed it part 2 will be out this weekend!

[@DylanO0505]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL awesome you know we all cant wait and for a 65 that ktm pulls, mind telling me roughly hm you got it for ? Arent those like 6 grand

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@DylanO0505 yeah I don't mind telling you at all. So yeah the KTM does cost around $5,000 brand new which add tax and a few other things you're close to $6,000. This bike is a 2007 which I bought used. The typically asking price for these bikes is about $1,400 to $1,700 But this one was advertised to have a blown motor and was listed for $650. Anytime you buy a bike with a blown motor it's a huge gamble. You could come out on top if it's a simple fix or you could come out on bottom if you have to do a complete engine rebuild. In my case I came out on top as all it needed was a new spark plug and the fuel needed to be turned on.

[@MrStevec1983]

I just wish that the suspension on the Apollo was better without having to modify or upgrade. Solid as a rock.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I couldn't agree with you more!!! Way too solid!

[@joshwarren9668]

still a pretty good bike though lol

[@mikeyeyey8678]

For the difference in price between the two bikes, I would say the Apollo is pretty damn good. Isn’t there like a good 3000 dollar difference between the two? Great video as always as well👍🏻👍🏻

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes, no doubt for the price the Apollo is the better bang for your buck! The Apollo is $850 shipped to your doorstep and the KTM 65SX is just over $5K so about $4K difference 🙄 I'm glad you liked the video! I appreciate all your support buddy!! ✊

[@mikeyeyey8678]

QUADNATION 929 omg 4K difference wow! Which one do you personally prefer, taking in account the price

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@mikeyeyey8678 to be honest I don't think the KTM is worth an extra $4,000. Now I'm definitely probably going to upset a lot of folks who are die-hard KTM fans but in my opinion KTM is overpriced. I will say they are probably number one in the race sector but to be used as a pit bike or a learning bike for my son the Apollo is definitely the way to go.

[@imamythyouknowyt6860]

@@mikeyeyey8678 you can pick up an 04 rm, cr, kx 65 on marketplace for 1,000

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

@@imamythyouknowyt6860 & how long will it run before throwing cash at it?

[@Torresito-qf5gm]

how many changes does the other motor have?🥺

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Are you referring to how noisy the KTM is?

[@Torresito-qf5gm]

Yes

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@Torresito-qf5gm It was recently rebuilt prior to me purchasing it. As far as I'm aware it's been rebuilt at least twice because I seen two old pistons in the box of stuff that I got. It may have been rebuilt more than that but either way I'm not exactly sure of the total history on this bike. I do know that the engine is a bit noisy and it's an abnormal noise Not sure what's going on inside. I'm going to be pulling the head off this week.

[@rorysmad]

what is the difference between all of the Apollo 125 bikes. I can't decide between the X-18, X-15, or 007.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I'm not sure about the 007 but the X15 is the small wheel model and the X18 is the big wheel model.

[@cwatson42785]

They sell an upgraded carb for the Apollo that opens it right up and is really cheap

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks! 👍

[@whomitri007]

Question were did u buy the Apollo

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I purchased it online at www.powersportsmax.com I was confident ordering through them as they offer all replacement parts for the bike as well.

[@whomitri007]

Thx

[@700rRaptorLife]

🤣🤣🤣 this video made my day I was mad cuz I haven’t been out riding seems like forever but this video made my day laughing love it man 🤣🤣🤣

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Haha bro comments like this just make my day! 😆😆✊ I feel your pain as I haven't been on the Raptor much at all either only a ride here or there on the pit bikes just to for the filming of this race and another ride video but other than that the big tires with the Raptor have been cancelled due to this virus. Hopefully all this will pass sooner than later... Anyways I'm glad you loved the video bro!!! 🤘

[@700rRaptorLife]

QUADNATION 929 Yea it’s been crazy with that virus....hopefully I can jump back on the raptor soon just been working alot here lately back i put the gbc masters on the raptor finally lol I had them for months and finally put them on 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣 but keep up the good work bro 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@700rRaptorLife nice! I hear those are good tires! Will do brother!

[@2slow2gs]

Isn’t the Apollo 4 gears and the ktm 5 or 6

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes that's one thing I forgot to mention in the video. The Apollo has a wide ratio 4-speed and the KTM has a close ratio 6-speed. So if the KTM was only a five-speed the top speed would be very close to the Apollo.

[@nigeljohn9805]

Hey Quadnation I have the apollo 125 cc dirt bike and sometimes it has a hard time starting. Sometimes it starts on first or second kick but sometimes it wont start at all.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Mine does that from time to time too and What I do is I will switch the choke lever from choke, half choke, or no choke and usually moving it around it'll fire up.

[@5thgearpinned450]

If the 125 was liquid cooled with 4 valves instead of a 2 valve air cooled it would have a better chance ,might even win

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I 100% agree with you! It would have been a high compression four-stroke engine at that point and would have definitely took the win ✊

[@inksankebabpizzeriayt4551]

yea then it would win but the ktm is restiricted too on the power even tho its race bike because its still meant to be riden by young riders

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@inksankebabpizzeriayt4551 Yeah there was definitely a lot of weight on both bikes holding them back tremendously from their full potential.

[@djtheys4249]

Watercooling doesnt makes it faster thats just for the cooling

[@5thgearpinned450]

DJ Theys watercooled bikes are more powerful and run cooler ,air cooled bikes get hotter thus reducing power output the hotter they get ,also why race cars are all water cooled and not air cooled, either way if the 125 was a race bike too it would most likely have a 125cc watercooled high compression engine(12-1compression or higher)with stiff valve springs ,a high lift long duration camshaft rev to 10k or higher running a higher octane and have bigger ports and bigger carb and 4 valves allowing it to suck more air in and rev higher ,that in my opinion would either smoke the 2 stroke or be on par with it , i love 2 strokes btw i have a 1996 cr500 bored to 515cc

[@nickakgrower2431]

Love that ending lol I thought what you did but still didn't even win lol

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂 that KTM is just so fast! Thanks I'm glad you loved it!

[@ruffus8012]

it was impressive when that 125 got in front of that 65sx but that 2 stroke took that win

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I guess the initial low in torque of the 125 since it's 4-stroke but yeah in no time that two-stroke got into that power band and took the win 😎🤘

[@zahir2x553]

Where did you buy the ktm from?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I purchased it online at www.powersportsmax.com

[@kevinarnold213]

Thanks for the action

[@Miket-xo2mu]

What kind of tennis shoes does your little brother have on?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Hey dudes

[@Rod8]

Do the rfz got da cdi box dat makes them faster?

[@seniorpz1969]

where did you purchase the KTM? how do they both perform offroad?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I purchased the KTM from a private seller in Georgia. As far as both bikes performance off-road the KTM is a lot more comfortable and is a bit more powerful.

[@seniorpz1969]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL nice! Thanks!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@seniorpz1969 np 👍

[@Fatz438]

Is it possible to make the Apollo sound like the Ktm???? Please let me know

[@oneshottabletalk7599]

What website did you buy your Apollo 125 from?

[@antoniot122]

Hey I commented on your other video but I also wanted to know him much the ktm would cost?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The KTM 65SX is $5,000 But depending on dealer sales and promotions you may be able to get it for $4,500 or so.

[@leviv7521]

Did you test the top speeds in the two bikes in mph?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

No but I plan to do a top speed run with a speedometer on both bikes! 👍 That video will be coming soon!

[@leviv7521]

QUADNATION 929 sweet!

[@ziyonbomar6552]

The Apollo really good on topping

[@AdrianGarcia-fp4bj]

So when you bought it did it come built

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It came partially assembled. You can order it fully assembled but it's extra $200. Therefore I was willing to assemble it myself being that I knew I could do it. I was required to assemble the handlebars front tire and rear tire. I have a video on the assembly if you're curious.

[@iansgarage8603]

Does the engine ever overheat on the Apollo?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Nope not at all I've been at idle for long periods of time and it rarely ever emits much heat at all, indicating that it would be getting extremely hot.

[@iansgarage8603]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL thanks! can you make more vids with it please?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@iansgarage8603 yes! I will for you buddy!

[@noahharrison7998]

I hope your enjoying my old bike, I loved that thing

[@2kbanks]

whats the difference between qpollo dbx18 and x15

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The Apollo X15 is the small wheel version and the Apollo X18 is the big wheel version.

[@BigEBikes]

Build quality in KTM vs Apollo is like uncomparable tho. Makes sense tho, my electric dirt bike was smoking 4 stroke 125 but only barley beat a 65 2 stroke.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah KTM is definitely the pinnacle of dirt bikes!

[@Kritris27]

I also have a kt m 65 sx model of 2005, I am a relatively new owner, it's incredible motorbike has crazy torque really monster...

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes it is!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@Ethan Valentine depends on what part of the world you're from

[@davidmykal8197]

Just curious why didnt u have your brother ride the apollo with no backpack to show the difference with less weight if there was any

[@benlogan8280]

How small is the ktm on you

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It's a small pit bike and with me being 5'7 and 180 lb it's only something to ride when you're wanting to have some fun but as far as a daily means of transportation the bike is a bit small.

[@DUNEATV]

Brother,,,awesome vid! I love your energy!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks DUNE YXZ! It's hard for me to have any other emotion while on these machines! 😆

[@DUNEATV]

QUADNATION 929 I don’t blame you! You will love this hobby for the rest of your life...it’s in your blood! Keep enjoying life bro!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@DUNEATV your definitely right about that! It flows through my veins! Always has, always will! Stir up some more sand on those dunes for us Raptor lovers! #wewantanothervideoDUNEYXZ!

[@DUNEATV]

QUADNATION 929 LOL! Awesome

[@pitgroove.37_66]

People, you realize that the only way to compare a 65 two-stroke is to pair it up with a pit bike 160cc or bigger. Obviously, a 125 4-stroke of any size does not stand a chance against a 65 2-stroke!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It was all for fun bro 👍

[@pitgroove.37_66]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL I know

[@llbadboy1]

That 125 sounds so good

[@torres3422]

when your in neutral do you go up or down 1 to go into 1st gear

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

On the Apollo you go up for first gear on the KTM you go down for first gear.

[@strykermcnary7785]

Down with the 65

[@strykermcnary7785]

I don’t know about the 126

[@brodyriekofsky844]

“Can’t even compete with my drag racing skills” also can’t shift right 11:35

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂 that was actually pretty funny you just made me laugh! But in all fairness please tell me how you would shift more effectively because I'm always open to learn in this sport. There's really not much room for improvement because I was shifting at optimum RPMs and power shifting at that but if you are able to teach me something that I do not know I will completely take it as constructive criticism and will not be upset So please do let me know how you would have shifted more effectively?

[@brodyriekofsky844]

It may not be u, it might be the bike but when u shift it sounds like ur holding in the clutch just a bit too long. You hear how it revs up a bit before you shift? It may be u or the bike I really have no idea. But thanks for the reply that really made my day a lot better

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@brodyriekofsky844 That's actually great observation and I'm glad you brought that up just in case anybody else heard or noticed the same thing and is wondering why I was doing that. So what you observed was something called power shifting. Power shifting is where you do not let go of the throttle while shifting. During power shifting you'll quickly shift as fast as you can by pulling in the clutch and shifting the gear while at the same time never releasing the throttle. What it does is it, for a split second, allows the engine to free rev in between the gears so that when it does shift to the next gear it hits the next gear hard and gives it a slight boost as its engaging the next gear. Yes it will cause extra wear and tear on the clutch but If you're racing to the extreme level then it will give you an advantage compared to not power shifting.

[@brodyriekofsky844]

QUADNATION 929 omg I never even thought of that your right. I feel so stupid. Thanks tho. Great conversation keep up the great work I absolutely love ur vids. Thanks for everything

[@wesleybostic3488]

Try a 26mm carb on the 125 there like $35 on Amazon they make a huge difference

[@hectortorres9049]

And 28 ? Full inyector ?

[@williamwoolard2574]

is the apollo the db-35 model?

[@canamxmr4760]

How is the Apollo been doing reliability wise?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It's been doing great! I've had it for nearly a year and it's and very reliable and has showed no signs potential problems. I did have one bolt on the exhaust shield that tried backing out twice. I have since fixed that problem by applying loctite to the bolt and it has not backed out since. I also added loctite to the other bolts that I installed during assembly.

[@evilshyper7233]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL which model on powersportsmax did you buy? mind sending link?

[@joepduijvestijn2387]

Is there a vid coming from you about the Pete hager meeting

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Sure is buddy! So this weekend I will premiere the second part of the KTM vs Apollo episodes and then next week I'll be uploading the meet-up with Pete Hager. I have lots of great footage that I hope you and so many other folks will like!

[@joepduijvestijn2387]

QUADNATION 929 YEEEESSSS already waiting for that

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@joepduijvestijn2387 👍✊

[@AKviizon]

I’m looking to buy a ktm right now actually I weigh around 130 pounds what’s a good bike with a 5000 budget?

[@ericclinch]

I put after market parts on my rfz Apollo 125 and she’s an animal now and looks dope

[@RsEventManagment]

How to shift ktm sx65 gear.. Can you give a video

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Sure thing bud! I'll film it as soon as I get a break from all this chaos from the virus.

[@weeklyvideos1tvchannelsubl717]

What’s the difference big a. 65 and a 125 ? Why didn’t. It beat. It. ?

[@TNGclips1]

If you still have a Apollo you should get a 26mm carburetor there cheap from ebay or amazon. Way more power difference and they bolt straight on.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks for the info!

[@papiluhz]

what is the price of that KTM? and the price of Apollo? In which page can I get them?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The KTM 65SX is approximately $5,000 The Apollo 125 is approximately $1,200. I purchased mine a year ago when it was still less than a thousand but they have gone up in price due to their popularity. The model I have here is the x15.

[@sanesaint8725]

Glad I found this because I'm trying to find out which one I want not between those two between the Apollo and the coolster

[@joiakimtorlet9755]

where are you plannin on buying a dirtbike cuz I'm also trying to decide between the 2

[@zahir2x553]

Where did you buy that from

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I purchased it online at www.powersportsmax.com

[@codyholzerland2153]

what year is that ktm?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

2007

[@dailyuploadors2418]

Which bike is yours

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Both of them are mine. I originally bought the KTM 65 for my son and later decided to buy him the Apollo 125. The plan is to get a few more videos of the KTM 65 and then I'm going to sell it for another dirt bike or quad.

[@funininjaddayd6761]

The 2 stroke is definitely gonna win bro

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It certainly did!

[@mikem9953]

I can not believe that Apollo was in the same zip code as that KTM! WOW! How much for the KTM? Maintenance for a season?$$$$$ Yes, the KTM is obviously a real bike, but I’m still shocked it even stuck with you a little bit Cool video. I liked it a lot. Thanks.

[@kacperburzak1610]

Did you count the teeth the Ktm might have more at front then the Apollo

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

No and that's a good point! Also something I forgot to mention in the video is the Apollo is a four-speed and the KTM is a six-speed so that definitely makes the difference.

[@iwilrage]

Is the apollo a true 125? Read its not

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It's dubbed a 125 but you're right most engines are slightly off of there given title. For example my Raptor 700 is actually a 686 cc.

[@themotovloger9545]

the thing is is the sprockets the same on both of them front and rear youll have to make sure and if not change on of them to match the other then race again

[@coach8123]

Reliability?? Which one wins?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Definitely the KTM! 🦾🦾🦾

[@coach8123]

Great, thanks 🙏

[@joeyriveira6697]

So you even up the riders weights . What’s the bikes weight on each that may be a determining factor . I’m sure that Harbor freight bike isn’t at the ktm’s weight . Plus if that 125 has been rung out like this all the time do a valve adjustment to give the 125 it’s full potential of power .

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

You have some valid points. As far as the weight of the bikes I'm not sure the difference there but this was more so of an example if someone were to line these two bikes up what to expect with different rider weights. Also the Apollo's valves are within spec as I do all my maintenance. Now it could have certainly benefited from a carb upgrade and exhaust.

[@DaveandAya_]

Skip to 5:45

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I encourage all to skip to 5:45 if you're just wanting to see a race between two bikes, however, to get a good understanding of exactly how we made this race as fair as possible you'll need to see the first 5 minutes 👍

[@wheeliedumb607]

This looks exactly like my road...is this old lake city road??

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😱 lol yes it is... Small world 😂

[@wheeliedumb607]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL that's crazy lmao. Well if you see a dude with a white helmet on a black drz400 that's me 😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@wheeliedumb607 sounds good man! We'll have to meet up soon! Do you know about the sand hills by itchtuknee?

[@wheeliedumb607]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL by 3 rivers? My buddy lives in there and took me to those a couple times. My drz is a supermoto unfortunately lol that's why I was looking at these Chinese pit bikes. Craaazy random when I saw that familiar road 😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@wheeliedumb607 Yeah that is unreal I can't believe that you've stumbled across my channel as a local. Yep over by three Rivers that's the place I'm talking about! I've got several videos where we're tearing the sand up there with the Raptors and 450. If you haven't seen them go check them out. Oh man I would love to see your supermoto! 🤘 Once the virus passes we'll definitely have to meet up 👍

[@topshotta8338]

Try using the Apollo dx-18 it’s a full size and a lot faster

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It would be interesting to see how the X18 performs compared to the X15.

[@OilLy]

this is a power 2 stoke !!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes that KTM is bad to the Bone!

[@_paypar.out223]

Get the KTM 65 two stroke 2016 that was my first dirtbike in 2017

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Those newer KTMs do look great!

[@crunkyhd5031]

How you doing during corona brother

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I'm trying to hang in there my man. It's been difficult trying to keep my family safe. So many folks are sick and have been losing their jobs left and right and it's such a heartbreak to see this happening in our country right now. How are you and your family?

[@fahim4853]

Damn for a 65 that bike really flies!!!

[@tankdoss7261]

“HIT IT” lmao.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂

[@tankdoss7261]

QUADNATION 929 hi quad nation! My names tank I’m 13 years old, and I would really wanna be in one of yalls videos I have a KTM 85cc and I would really wanna take y’all to a track and race.

[@sanesaint8725]

I'm going to look it up after this

[@SAYITAINTALBERT]

I feel like there needs to be a longer top speed race tbh

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

🤣🤣🤣

[@waylanholecek4967]

My ssr 125 is like that against the rm 85

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Did you have any videos? It would be cool to watch!

[@buckshots2dabrain859]

I like how KZbin captions says the bike Revving is music

[@streetlordz100]

Change the carb on the Apollo with a mikuni carb and race the KTM let me know how it goes

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

If I change it out I'll definitely do that!

[@streetlordz100]

I have the x18 125 Apollo I changed out the standard carb to a mikuni carb the throttle response is great the standard carburetor bogged out a lot.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@streetlordz100 That's what I'm experiencing too. The OEM carb is probably my biggest complaint on this bike, really my only complaint.

[@RednX69]

My brother has an Apollo, I drove it and if you really revv out those gears, you would've probs been a lot closer behind, I stood up to a Honda CRF150R with the 125 and won all rounds.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

In this case against the KTM I just could not keep up possibly because I weighed a bit more than my brother but I was definitely winding her out lol...

[@sanesaint8725]

Damn that little things like a real dirt bike like a YZ80

[@smashergaming2134]

KTM is faster then Apollo but i liked the apollo sound

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The Apollo does sound pretty wicked from factory 🔥🔥🔥

[@ericclinch]

He was shifting to quick on that Apollo

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

May look like that but I was shifting right at the moment I started feeling the power drop off which is perfect timing.

[@Ben-rm9jx]

Im a two stroke person but that rfz sounds better than the sx65. This is one of the only times that i will say that a 4 stroke sounds better.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I was actually quite impressed with the stock exhaust on the Apollo as well! It really sounds great!

[@thieleracing5976]

It’s the 2 stroke power band it’s so touchy I have one so I know

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah no joke that KTM 65SX is very touchy while in the power band!

[@thieleracing5976]

I have a KX100 it rides wheelies in first LMAO

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@thieleracing5976 always wanted to ride the KX100! They're sweet 😍

[@theq4602]

I think the best conclusion we can draw is that if people want to go faster they should lose weight.

[@grudzien9784]

ktm for sure. i have had both bikes. that 65 has so much power its nuts

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes it does!

[@El_De_Michoacan7]

Apollo not bad for the price 👍

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I agree! Great for the price!

[@rafaelrivera1605]

Blue on the take off orange on far race

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Nice job!

[@everythingloud4068]

I figured the ktm would take the W

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I knew it was going to on acceleration for sure! That little 2 Stroke is a screamer! 🤘

[@Kingjvy_88]

17-37 gear set up nibbi pe22 carb big wheel kit and foam nibbi air filter w a ngk spark plug...the apollo would move harder!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks for the help!

[@dominikjerbic4375]

if u have the small tire version of the apollo then ofc its a loss but witht the 17 and 14 inch tires i think on the apollo it would be more even . the apollo might even win

[@AngelSolis-kz1ei]

No man Apollo makes 7 hp while ktm 65 makes 15 hp so it’s a pretty big difference also 4 speed vs 6 speed