Freighting in the Wild West

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oops! The clip with Bill Brazelton broke and I noticed it too late. You'll see him next week.

[@notdeaded1416]

Santee, you do know Bill will get even with you for that this week.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yeah...he will.

[@PaletoB]

Well he's a ghost after all.

[@fancycatstudios5393]

what about to say, Bill be looking a little diffrent today

[@SomerandomShmuck]

I thought it was unlike Bill to not swoop in and start messing about!

[@RicArmstrong]

I'm a truck driver and I often think of these "freighters" as I drive through the west and my mind begins to wander while I look at the rugged landscape. I cannot imagine the difficulty they endured hauling the freight and horses up and down mountains and especially in winter. Men and women were built different back then. Makes me appreciate being behind the wheel of a Kenworth though.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

A little more comfort, eh?

[@RicArmstrong]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Absolutely! Although I still pack some iron with me in my truck like they did back then. 😉

[@sailorbychoice1]

I don't think people were built different, they were just used to what they had. Good comment though.

[@julienielsen3746]

God Bless Truckers.

[@toddschoening8897]

This one hits close to home. My Great grandmother was born on a wagon heading to Tempe. Great grandpa's family went there to farm wheat for Hayden's flor mill.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool! You go back a few generations in AZ, then.

[@NGMonocrom]

At this point in history, I wouldn't be surprised if Freighters made a comeback.... mostly in Canada.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Maybe

[@nblankensh]

How's the Canadian Fritter situation?

[@SlickSixguns]

Just how I like Bill, when you can’t see him.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HAHAH!

[@hacksaw434]

I watched the Borax Wagon build that Engel's Coach Shop did. You're right Santee, those wheels were huge!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

He is an amazing builder at Engel's.

[@anthonylautzenheiser3802]

@@ArizonaGhostriders kzbin.infofeatured

[@cleondubois1270]

Long ago on another planet far-far away in a distant galaxy there were TV ads for "Twenty Mule Team Borax". Always assumed it was just soap but looks like there were and still are many uses for it. Thanks for the five or more minutes that we look forward to on Saturday mornings.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HA! You're welcome.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Fritter Freighter! Lol, great video Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks 👍

[@marcthomas2482]

Fritter Freighter! Ha! Too funny. Have you ever done or would you ever do a collaboration with Engles Coach Shop? He did a great series restoring gear for 20 Mule Team.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Not yet! I contacted him awhile ago about using one of his clips, but he never responded. Maybe one day.

[@mudslide4704]

I was in Death Valley earlier this year and did some learning about the 20 mule borax freighters. Just like it says in the box!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool!

[@TightwadTodd]

My grandfather drove those teams, when he was a teenager. they were driven by what is known as a jerkline and the mules had to hop over the chains to make a turn.It was briefly shown in the clip in this video. He took me to see one, when i was a kid to witness how it worked and to see how good a team and driver they were. He said the guy was handy.

[@ewmhop]

great video.thank you for making this old man day.it hard to fine something not about war on today.it oct.62 all over again/be safe.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Round and round we go. I’ve been getting that Vietnam vibe and I really don’t want to bring that crap up again. The first time was enough and I’m too damn old and disabled to be fighting a war now!

[@ewmhop]

people think it a video game nowday.i sorry they got rid of the draft..military now just worry about your gender and your pronouns.@@dr.froghopper6711

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome.

[@rhondaz356]

I never thought I would enjoy, and look forward to, learning so much about our "Western" past. This channel is FANtastic, and definitely one of my absolute favorites. YIPPEE and YAHOO 👏🤠👏

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@cindysplace]

Hi Rhonda! These guys are so awesome and Santee is the perfect video host.

[@rhondaz356]

@@cindysplace Cindy, it's wonderful to see you here. Your interests are so diverse, I'm not surprised to see you though, especially considering the location. Your support for other KZbinrs is something I've noticed. Have a lovely day.👏🌷🌿💖

[@doughboywhine]

Yeah, Arizona Ghostriders is an underrated channel

[@rhondaz356]

@@doughboywhine AMEN 👏👏🤠

[@Brombear]

Always look forward to seeing what topic comes up on Saturdays, and you always come through! Another great episode Santee! Gotta feel sorry for ol’ Sourmash, being a fritter freighter who got his fritters filched by that felonious fritter filching critter. (Ok...I've not had my coffee yet...time for some Arbuckles and a fritter) Thanks again!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@joshuatichota5046]

Me too, I can't really start my Saturday without Arizona Ghost riders. Just doesn't feel like a Saturday without their videos being the first thing I watch.

[@alabamasmokeywilson6818]

Wow 1st . Love watching these ever Saturday morning.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@victorwaddell6530]

Thanks again Santee & Co. Black in the 1990s after leaving the navy , I drove a truck for a while for C.R. England out of Salt Lake City , Utah . I gotta salute all the freighters from the past and those who still make the freight arrive on time today . Keep the shiny side up , the rubber side down , and stay between the ditches .

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool info!

[@fordenginebuildersv8power184]

Years back I built several wagons like the ones in your opening! There’s a bigger call for them than you think! They’re not as easy to build as one might think! Great video as usual !

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

A lot of wood. A lot of metal. A lot of time!!

[@fordenginebuildersv8power184]

@@ArizonaGhostriders and a lot of love for the craft!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@@fordenginebuildersv8power184 Yes

[@waynedaly1718]

My Great Grandmother and Great Grandfather ran a Bullock team here in Outback Queensland,Australia into the 1920s. As in America before rail and auto transport took over,wagons were the way it was done. Thanks for another fun and informative vid Santee. Best wishes to you and the gang all the way from Australia.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool! Thanks for sharing that.

[@robertbuckey6517]

This video was very timely! I didn't know about the ore wagons, and I'm working on an RPG scenario set in a mining town, which I will be adding in.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oh man. Look up Borax 20 mule team. That'll set ya straight

[@Defiant_Garbage]

Yeah, I bet it was _frightening_ in the Old West. Oh, _freighting_ Yeah, that must've been scary too.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL! Yes.

[@lifeforall1768]

Yes I agree, awesome every Saturday morning. Sometimes I do learn something from the old west. Thank you Santees.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Right on

[@singleshot2218]

Check out Engles Coach Shop..I think you’ll be very surprised!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I have. Great builder.

[@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods]

Lol he is a friggen fritter Freighter

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL!

[@vinnyjamea96]

Love the show.. Would like to see a show about western horse back riding..

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Certainly!

[@wadejustanamerican1201]

Good morning Santee. Never a boring episode. Not much was easy back then, except possibly dying, lol. Thanks again and have a great weekend.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL! You're welcome.

[@mherod51]

Thanks Santee 😊. Evidently delivering the goods wasn't as easy as it is today. Running my 200mile route everyday then would be a whole lot slower & likely a lot shorter.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Those ice drops might not works as well....

[@mherod51]

@@ArizonaGhostriders no, they wouldn't survive the trip....except in the winter.

[@reedburke7762]

You guys are awesome! Enjoyed the video as always. Thanks.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome!

[@thomasgreen8532]

My great grandfather was a mule skinner. He traveled up down the Sierra mountains bringing supplies to the miners. He made a lot money doing that. He eventually settles just south of Eureka CA. Building one of the biggest ranches in the territory.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That is some great family history. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@grimone8715]

Love you guys please don't ever stop bringing us such informative and interesting history on our western ancestors

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Much appreciated!

[@LivingHistorysMysteries]

I had no idea that Sour Mash was a fritter freighter. He is definitely a man of many hats...well, now he's a man of no hats thanks to Dan. Great video Santee. Definitely information we can freight along with us while learning about life in the old west.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😁Thank you!

[@jordanhicks5131]

Deadwood presented this pretty well with Charlie Utter and his freight/mail service into and out of the camp "That critter got my fritters!" Almost killed me with that one hahaha

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yeah! I looked it up and couldn't find that Charlie Utter had a freight service in Deadwood. Oh, Hollywood!

[@jordanhicks5131]

@@ArizonaGhostriders they do love to take their liberties

[@MomentsInTrading]

“Colorado Ute Pass” “Colorado what?” “What?” “Did you say Ute?” “Yeah, the Colorado Ute Pass” “What’s a Ute?” “Oh, sorry Your Honor. The Colorado Youth Pass” - My Cousin Vinny

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's what my wife said, too. We llve that movie.

[@deniskozlowski9370]

Great video. How about an episode on safes and vaults in the old west.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes

[@dontcallmemrs.squibload1142]

I think we saw that ore wagon in Death Valley.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I think that's where the photo is from, so yeah!

[@kurikokaleidoscope]

Very interesting and informative.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Much appreciated!

[@RhettyforHistory]

I'm a freighter gonna have to do another video on the heavier wagons!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

ok!

[@FlyingDutchmanCoins]

Another great video. Always look forward to your Saturday morning upload!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@notdeaded1416]

I look forward to these every Saturday!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@squint04]

"Critter's got my Fritter" AZ Ghostriders humor!! Enjoyed the visit, see you all next week!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for coming

[@charlesmiller6826]

Always look forward to these, especially a surprisw like this, freighting is one of those rhing we just se to take for granted.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@dr.froghopper6711]

The original freedom convoys! Reminds me, I need some 20 mule team borax for my blacksmithing ventures!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes!

[@bigbill2444]

Thanks! Another great video! As I visit old towns in the West, I notice that a lot of the main streets are very wide; this is so that these freighters could turn around in the street. Many are wide enough that a twenty-mule team could turn around, and some even wider.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Freighters, and also just wagons and coaches. Turning radius on those is not so good!

[@justinsane7128]

You hypnotize me now I need a fritter

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I hear ya!

[@DocHolliday1851]

That brought back memories of "caulk the wagon and float it". I loved the Oregon Trail game as a kid.

[@DocHolliday1851]

I didn't know what caulk was back then though.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Tar. Just simple ol' tar.

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Welcome!

[@skydiverclassc2031]

I used to live in the Sacramento Valley town of Chico, which was a starting point for freighters to carry goods over the Sierra Nevada to points east, primarily Idaho. Just east of town on the old road, there were ruts still in the ground where those big iron wheels ground their way up the hills. Farther up in the mountains there was a section of old road built up with rocks and dirt, before the road graders came along. It must have been quite a job to haul all the way to Idaho. Unfortunately, development has erased the wagon wheels.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool.

[@rickkinki4624]

Now I'm in the mood for a fritter! Great video, Santee! -Desert Rat Rick

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Rock on!

[@PicoPistolero]

Nice episode! Very timely for me too. I'm doing a comprehensive research project on Calico and have come across the freighters. Turns out, they hauled ore from Calico to Oro Grande, 30 miles South, bring water back up. The cool thing is that they would have passed right by my house! Nothing like looking out your window to see exactly where the thing you just read about happened! See ya down the trail!!!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool! I bet if you sweep that road with a metal detector you might find some cool artifacts

[@PicoPistolero]

@@ArizonaGhostriders the road is Rt 66 and has been paved for years. There certainly could be items together side. There is also the Mormon Trail down the Cajon Pass I'd like to sweep.

[@joecuppko40uh29]

Santee the freighters didn't go away with the automobile they just became truckers! One of my uncles drove for 40 years. Great episode, especially liked "that critter's got my fritters" a new annotation for Dirty Dan the Fritter Critter! & I too will see you on down the trail sir!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for the info

[@joelhurley2678]

Great episode Santee, Russell and Waddell's building in Leavenworth Kansas still exist.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep! Thanks.

[@brianonthego]

The stagecoach reminds me of a place in the foothills here in California. Columbia is the town. They have an old stagecoach ride..including a stage hold up with a masked bandit. Lots of fun.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Love them. One day maybe I'll own my own....except my cat won't pull it.

[@brianonthego]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Have a great week friend.

[@roblowe9283]

Great Show !!!!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

🤠

[@paulgraham5909]

Better than Saturday morning cartoons when I was a kid!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@Milty2001]

Hey santee I went to pony express national museum and you're correct the orewagons were huge and needed almost 20 mules to pull them, luckily the workers demonstrated how they pull the wagons and it's fascinating

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

It is. Very cool stuff

[@jasonattenborough4026]

Another excellent video Santee, shame about old Bill was heard and not seen, it got a good laugh at. The cattle freight was very interesting, expressively in how cattle was stored next to the train yard. Saying that, I'm loving these series of videos, well done.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@vikingshaman3079]

Did some part time work with a trucker a few years back, so this was especially interesting. By the way Santee, when you're hauling those goods of yours over to Sweden, stop off here in Norway. Got a bit over a gallon of quality Scotch I inherited of my grandad, could use some help drinking it.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Wooohoo!!!! OK!

[@av-8bharrier823]

>wakes up >Saw Arizona Ghostriders posted a new video >Day instantly improves

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Awww, thanks.

[@user-neo71665]

Got a buddy that used to race wagons. The maintenance on those things is something else. His wasn't even period correct as he used modern bearings and such.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Probably have to if you are going to race them.

[@fishbonez5670]

Fritter, freighter, critter sounds like Yosemite Sam after a run in with Bugs Bunny. Love it

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yup!

[@nealmaxwell790]

This video reminds me of the fact that my baby nieces second favorite show is Wagon Train, a western I’m not a big fan of, but she loves the horses. Her favorite is the Rifleman. Only six months old and already swoons over Chuck Conners🙄

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's so cool!

[@chelseadanico877]

Very awesome and interesting informative video, I really loved and enjoyed it. Great job and well done. I definitely learned a lot about freighting in the old West. I’m definitely going to be adding the freighting wagons to my old West inspired interconnected novella stories I’m writing. I also got a lot of inspiration for my old West inspired novella stories as well .

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@chelseadanico877]

@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks👍🏼😎🌟

[@TomBostian8255]

That critters got my fritters! 😆 I loved that part!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

The best!

[@thitsugaya1224]

"That critter's got my fritters. " Not going to lie, I laughed out loud.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

He got me too, on the previous take.

[@phil7144]

Neat video. I hadn't drank all of my coffee yet and spent the majority of the video trying to figure out what wagons had to do with "fighting in the old west" lol. I finally realized I read the title wrong

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@joeltowle2737]

My Great Grandfather was a Teamsters back in the 1800's! He had quite the history!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's awesome family history

[@joeltowle2737]

@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks. He had an exciting life.

[@jakeoconnor3400]

I really enjoyed this one, thanks Santee

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad to hear it!

[@AdaM48state]

Thanks Santee, that was a load of fun!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes it was!

[@vernford8215]

As always, love these videos

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad to hear it!

[@justinweaver8787]

Those wagons are amazing wow.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Much appreciated!

[@TimKoehn44]

Great information Santee! 👍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for watching!

[@amandasanders7373]

Love these vids. Reminds me of Gospel Bill episodes that we used to watch at a private Christian school long ago.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@goodoldbubba6620]

I seem to recall The Big Valley doing a couple of episodes about the corruption in the freight business.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

No doubt!

[@michaelashcraft8569]

The Drivers had to have taken a beating on the Wagons, and, Stagecoaches, rutted, bumpy, sometimes muddy roads, hard wheels, THAT was LIVING!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I'd say an interesting job

[@Davofromdownunder65]

We had them in Australia called bullock drays, the wagons were pulled by bullocks and the drivers were called bullockies.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for that info. Cool!

[@joemortimer1763]

Yet another great and informative episode. That critter's got my fritters. Hey! I'll take a fritter, Dan! Horses scuba diving? 😏

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL! Sourmash is one to watch!

[@jeff9104]

Great stuff Santee, amazing how big some of those freight wagons were. Could you do a video about miners, mining equipment, ore carts etc... noticed that you visited 'The ThunderMesa' Thanks 🌵🌵

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Will do. Yes, I want to interview that feller. He's pretty awesome!

[@BoyNamedSue4]

Cause we got a little ol' convoy Rockin' through the night Yeah, we got a little ol' convoy Ain't she a beautiful sight? Come on and join our convoy Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way We gonna roll this truckin' convoy 'Cross the USA Convoy!!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Love that!

[@jjsadventures]

Thanks Santee for another great video!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

My pleasure!

[@whatissheuptonow]

that critter could start a fritter fight...lol @Arizona Ghostriders... Santee nice to know I'm not the only chief cook & bottle washer... lol Blessings...

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You got that right!

[@Dsdcain]

Thanks for the video. It's looking like it'll be the brightest part of my otherwise dreary, rainy, muddy, and just plain lousy Northern New England day. 🤣 Take it easy, and have a good one man. 😎

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@rhorn8038]

Unless I missed the any more than the 2 AGR logos on the train engine and wagon because of the great content. As always well done team!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you! Much appreciated!

[@henrycerro9151]

Reminds me of the old "20 Mule Team Borax" commercials.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yup!

[@wesarchibald7373]

I live at the base of Ute pass you should see it now 😊

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Is it cool?

[@wesarchibald7373]

@@ArizonaGhostriders yes and it's still beautiful

[@stevensheats7536]

And now folks here’s the story about frightening In Wild West please welcome Santee of the Arizona Ghost riders! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you! Hope you and your family are ok.

[@stevensheats7536]

@@ArizonaGhostriders I’m okay and my mom Jessie Nicky and skye are okay

[@alswann2702]

Thanks Santee, from a modern day Teamster!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome.

[@DARINBAGGSGUNOUTLAW]

Another great video Santee 🍻🥃👊🤠👍👍👍👍👍 🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@robinherrera2562]

You missed the Tully Ochoa Freight Company which was one of the pioneers. Lots of places in Tucson have Estevan Ochoa's name as tribute to his contributions to Arizona. Look up Ochoaville which had it's own post office and cancellation stamp. It was near Hereford.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

There are literally dozens of freight companies I didn't mention. It's an overview designed to spur you on to doing more research if you're interested. Thanks for the extra info.

[@8aleph]

Check Engels Coach shop Dave Engel constructed A 20 Mule team borax wagon set. He is located in Joliet Montana.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yeah, the one shown in the video might be his, I believe.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

the double-edged sword: vital yet expensive to operate, while railroads were a link to the rest of the country and world but also meant lower profits as your ore or whatever you produced was more plentiful making demand drop

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes, it was.

[@nagjrcjasonbower]

Sweet! Freight may not be “glamorous” but it sure can put smiles on faces and keep an economy growing. Nice one!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very true!

[@crazyhorseaz5224]

Morning CHORES ARE DONE HEAD EM UP MOVE EM OUT THANKS FOR VIDEO SANTEE 🤠✝️🇱🇷👍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You bet

[@stevewixom9311]

Really enjoyed this video. Freighting is never really talked about in other videos. Really a good vid.. really good looking fritters too

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you very much!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Fritter freighter lol that was good …yep mules need their own episode

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

They'll get 'em

[@Marmot689]

Hey Santee, I live at the base of Ute Pass. Thanks, Marmot.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Awesome!

[@imyourhuckleberry2648]

What an Interesting topic! keep up the good work Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks! Will do!

[@michaelpage4199]

I found the critter who took the fritters was frazzling for the freighter. Geesh that was a mouth full… of fritters that is. Lol

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Mmmm, fritters.

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

Eighteen mules and two horses

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Whatever works.

[@captainabefox]

This summer me and my family going across three states like Arizona New Mexico and Texas. When we head back I will tell my dad find location place when you work Arizona ghost town tours

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool!

[@mrchiefbs]

Thanks for another fantastic video, Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaelmartin5534]

Well done Mr. Santee. Are you familiar with the 'Copper Creek' area east of Mammoth, North of Tucson? There are a few pictures left of my grandfather Manuel Nunez and my great uncle Fred L. Clark hauling a narrow gauge locomotive on two wagons lashed together up the old Copper Creek road in 1911 or 1912. I remember my great Uncle Fred telling me the story and the difficulties they faced getting that engine up to Copper Creek when I was a kid in the 70s. As we now say, 'back then, they just did', all else be damned! My great uncle Fred eventually went on to buy the company from my grandfather and it became 'Fred L. Clark Sand and Rock' then ultimately, Clark Trucking Co. I worked for my great uncle Fred and his nephew Charlie Clark who eventually took over the business in the early 80s for a number of years. I'm thankful for the ethic and integrity they taught me growing up. P.S., I also know the family and story behind the 'Rifleman' series, actually based on a true story/incident from the Mammoth/Araviapa Canyon area. Continued success to you and your endeavors Sir.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for the local and family history! Never knew that about the Rifleman.

[@jerseyred9554]

Another great episode my friend

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!