Freighting in the Wild West

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oops! The clip with Bill Brazelton broke and I noticed it too late. You'll see him next week.

[@notdeaded1416]

Santee, you do know Bill will get even with you for that this week.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yeah...he will.

[@PaletoB]

Well he's a ghost after all.

[@fancycatstudios5393]

what about to say, Bill be looking a little diffrent today

[@SomerandomShmuck]

I thought it was unlike Bill to not swoop in and start messing about!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Fritter Freighter! Lol, great video Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks 👍

[@RicArmstrong]

I'm a truck driver and I often think of these "freighters" as I drive through the west and my mind begins to wander while I look at the rugged landscape. I cannot imagine the difficulty they endured hauling the freight and horses up and down mountains and especially in winter. Men and women were built different back then. Makes me appreciate being behind the wheel of a Kenworth though.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

A little more comfort, eh?

[@RicArmstrong]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Absolutely! Although I still pack some iron with me in my truck like they did back then. 😉

[@sailorbychoice1]

I don't think people were built different, they were just used to what they had. Good comment though.

[@julienielsen3746]

God Bless Truckers.

[@cleondubois1270]

Long ago on another planet far-far away in a distant galaxy there were TV ads for "Twenty Mule Team Borax". Always assumed it was just soap but looks like there were and still are many uses for it. Thanks for the five or more minutes that we look forward to on Saturday mornings.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HA! You're welcome.

[@alabamasmokeywilson6818]

Wow 1st . Love watching these ever Saturday morning.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@rhondaz356]

I never thought I would enjoy, and look forward to, learning so much about our "Western" past. This channel is FANtastic, and definitely one of my absolute favorites. YIPPEE and YAHOO 👏🤠👏

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@cindysplace]

Hi Rhonda! These guys are so awesome and Santee is the perfect video host.

[@rhondaz356]

@@cindysplace Cindy, it's wonderful to see you here. Your interests are so diverse, I'm not surprised to see you though, especially considering the location. Your support for other KZbinrs is something I've noticed. Have a lovely day.👏🌷🌿💖

[@doughboywhine]

Yeah, Arizona Ghostriders is an underrated channel

[@rhondaz356]

@@doughboywhine AMEN 👏👏🤠

[@toddschoening8897]

This one hits close to home. My Great grandmother was born on a wagon heading to Tempe. Great grandpa's family went there to farm wheat for Hayden's flor mill.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool! You go back a few generations in AZ, then.

[@jordanhicks5131]

Deadwood presented this pretty well with Charlie Utter and his freight/mail service into and out of the camp "That critter got my fritters!" Almost killed me with that one hahaha

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yeah! I looked it up and couldn't find that Charlie Utter had a freight service in Deadwood. Oh, Hollywood!

[@jordanhicks5131]

@@ArizonaGhostriders they do love to take their liberties

[@Brombear]

Always look forward to seeing what topic comes up on Saturdays, and you always come through! Another great episode Santee! Gotta feel sorry for ol’ Sourmash, being a fritter freighter who got his fritters filched by that felonious fritter filching critter. (Ok...I've not had my coffee yet...time for some Arbuckles and a fritter) Thanks again!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@joshuatichota5046]

Me too, I can't really start my Saturday without Arizona Ghost riders. Just doesn't feel like a Saturday without their videos being the first thing I watch.

[@hacksaw434]

I watched the Borax Wagon build that Engel's Coach Shop did. You're right Santee, those wheels were huge!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

He is an amazing builder at Engel's.

[@anthonylautzenheiser3802]

@@ArizonaGhostriders kzbin.infofeatured

[@victorwaddell6530]

Thanks again Santee & Co. Black in the 1990s after leaving the navy , I drove a truck for a while for C.R. England out of Salt Lake City , Utah . I gotta salute all the freighters from the past and those who still make the freight arrive on time today . Keep the shiny side up , the rubber side down , and stay between the ditches .

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool info!

[@squint04]

"Critter's got my Fritter" AZ Ghostriders humor!! Enjoyed the visit, see you all next week!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for coming

[@marcthomas2482]

Fritter Freighter! Ha! Too funny. Have you ever done or would you ever do a collaboration with Engles Coach Shop? He did a great series restoring gear for 20 Mule Team.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Not yet! I contacted him awhile ago about using one of his clips, but he never responded. Maybe one day.

[@waynedaly1718]

My Great Grandmother and Great Grandfather ran a Bullock team here in Outback Queensland,Australia into the 1920s. As in America before rail and auto transport took over,wagons were the way it was done. Thanks for another fun and informative vid Santee. Best wishes to you and the gang all the way from Australia.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool! Thanks for sharing that.

[@ewmhop]

great video.thank you for making this old man day.it hard to fine something not about war on today.it oct.62 all over again/be safe.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Round and round we go. I’ve been getting that Vietnam vibe and I really don’t want to bring that crap up again. The first time was enough and I’m too damn old and disabled to be fighting a war now!

[@ewmhop]

people think it a video game nowday.i sorry they got rid of the draft..military now just worry about your gender and your pronouns.@@dr.froghopper6711

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome.

[@thomasgreen8532]

My great grandfather was a mule skinner. He traveled up down the Sierra mountains bringing supplies to the miners. He made a lot money doing that. He eventually settles just south of Eureka CA. Building one of the biggest ranches in the territory.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That is some great family history. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@TomBostian8255]

That critters got my fritters! 😆 I loved that part!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

The best!

[@joecuppko40uh29]

Santee the freighters didn't go away with the automobile they just became truckers! One of my uncles drove for 40 years. Great episode, especially liked "that critter's got my fritters" a new annotation for Dirty Dan the Fritter Critter! & I too will see you on down the trail sir!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for the info

[@LivingHistorysMysteries]

I had no idea that Sour Mash was a fritter freighter. He is definitely a man of many hats...well, now he's a man of no hats thanks to Dan. Great video Santee. Definitely information we can freight along with us while learning about life in the old west.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😁Thank you!

[@wadejustanamerican1201]

Good morning Santee. Never a boring episode. Not much was easy back then, except possibly dying, lol. Thanks again and have a great weekend.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL! You're welcome.

[@notdeaded1416]

I look forward to these every Saturday!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@fordenginebuildersv8power184]

Years back I built several wagons like the ones in your opening! There’s a bigger call for them than you think! They’re not as easy to build as one might think! Great video as usual !

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

A lot of wood. A lot of metal. A lot of time!!

[@fordenginebuildersv8power184]

@@ArizonaGhostriders and a lot of love for the craft!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@@fordenginebuildersv8power184 Yes

[@mudslide4704]

I was in Death Valley earlier this year and did some learning about the 20 mule borax freighters. Just like it says in the box!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool!

[@TightwadTodd]

My grandfather drove those teams, when he was a teenager. they were driven by what is known as a jerkline and the mules had to hop over the chains to make a turn.It was briefly shown in the clip in this video. He took me to see one, when i was a kid to witness how it worked and to see how good a team and driver they were. He said the guy was handy.

[@lifeforall1768]

Yes I agree, awesome every Saturday morning. Sometimes I do learn something from the old west. Thank you Santees.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Right on

[@reedburke7762]

You guys are awesome! Enjoyed the video as always. Thanks.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome!

[@thitsugaya1224]

"That critter's got my fritters. " Not going to lie, I laughed out loud.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

He got me too, on the previous take.

[@grimone8715]

Love you guys please don't ever stop bringing us such informative and interesting history on our western ancestors

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Much appreciated!

[@rickkinki4624]

Now I'm in the mood for a fritter! Great video, Santee! -Desert Rat Rick

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Rock on!

[@av-8bharrier823]

>wakes up >Saw Arizona Ghostriders posted a new video >Day instantly improves

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Awww, thanks.

[@joelhurley2678]

Great episode Santee, Russell and Waddell's building in Leavenworth Kansas still exist.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep! Thanks.

[@NGMonocrom]

At this point in history, I wouldn't be surprised if Freighters made a comeback.... mostly in Canada.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Maybe

[@nblankensh]

How's the Canadian Fritter situation?

[@FlyingDutchmanCoins]

Another great video. Always look forward to your Saturday morning upload!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@dr.froghopper6711]

The original freedom convoys! Reminds me, I need some 20 mule team borax for my blacksmithing ventures!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes!

[@PicoPistolero]

Nice episode! Very timely for me too. I'm doing a comprehensive research project on Calico and have come across the freighters. Turns out, they hauled ore from Calico to Oro Grande, 30 miles South, bring water back up. The cool thing is that they would have passed right by my house! Nothing like looking out your window to see exactly where the thing you just read about happened! See ya down the trail!!!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool! I bet if you sweep that road with a metal detector you might find some cool artifacts

[@PicoPistolero]

@@ArizonaGhostriders the road is Rt 66 and has been paved for years. There certainly could be items together side. There is also the Mormon Trail down the Cajon Pass I'd like to sweep.

[@SlickSixguns]

Just how I like Bill, when you can’t see him.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HAHAH!

[@Dsdcain]

Thanks for the video. It's looking like it'll be the brightest part of my otherwise dreary, rainy, muddy, and just plain lousy Northern New England day. 🤣 Take it easy, and have a good one man. 😎

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@jasonattenborough4026]

Another excellent video Santee, shame about old Bill was heard and not seen, it got a good laugh at. The cattle freight was very interesting, expressively in how cattle was stored next to the train yard. Saying that, I'm loving these series of videos, well done.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@x_DEUS_VULT_x]

Yeah, I bet it was _frightening_ in the Old West. Oh, _freighting_ Yeah, that must've been scary too.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL! Yes.

[@joemortimer1763]

Yet another great and informative episode. That critter's got my fritters. Hey! I'll take a fritter, Dan! Horses scuba diving? 😏

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL! Sourmash is one to watch!

[@skydiverclassc2031]

I used to live in the Sacramento Valley town of Chico, which was a starting point for freighters to carry goods over the Sierra Nevada to points east, primarily Idaho. Just east of town on the old road, there were ruts still in the ground where those big iron wheels ground their way up the hills. Farther up in the mountains there was a section of old road built up with rocks and dirt, before the road graders came along. It must have been quite a job to haul all the way to Idaho. Unfortunately, development has erased the wagon wheels.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very cool.

[@bigbill2444]

Thanks! Another great video! As I visit old towns in the West, I notice that a lot of the main streets are very wide; this is so that these freighters could turn around in the street. Many are wide enough that a twenty-mule team could turn around, and some even wider.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Freighters, and also just wagons and coaches. Turning radius on those is not so good!

[@mherod51]

Thanks Santee 😊. Evidently delivering the goods wasn't as easy as it is today. Running my 200mile route everyday then would be a whole lot slower & likely a lot shorter.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Those ice drops might not works as well....

[@mherod51]

@@ArizonaGhostriders no, they wouldn't survive the trip....except in the winter.

[@DocHolliday1851]

That brought back memories of "caulk the wagon and float it". I loved the Oregon Trail game as a kid.

[@DocHolliday1851]

I didn't know what caulk was back then though.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Tar. Just simple ol' tar.

[@Culloden-1745]

That's a nice version of Billy in the Lowground in the background.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks. It's one available through KZbin, I believe.

[@charlesmiller6826]

Always look forward to these, especially a surprisw like this, freighting is one of those rhing we just se to take for granted.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@deniskozlowski9370]

Great video. How about an episode on safes and vaults in the old west.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes

[@justinsane7128]

You hypnotize me now I need a fritter

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I hear ya!

[@phil7144]

Neat video. I hadn't drank all of my coffee yet and spent the majority of the video trying to figure out what wagons had to do with "fighting in the old west" lol. I finally realized I read the title wrong

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@robertbuckey6517]

This video was very timely! I didn't know about the ore wagons, and I'm working on an RPG scenario set in a mining town, which I will be adding in.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oh man. Look up Borax 20 mule team. That'll set ya straight

[@RhettyforHistory]

I'm a freighter gonna have to do another video on the heavier wagons!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

ok!

[@paulgraham5909]

Better than Saturday morning cartoons when I was a kid!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@roblowe9283]

Great Show !!!!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

🤠

[@Milty2001]

Hey santee I went to pony express national museum and you're correct the orewagons were huge and needed almost 20 mules to pull them, luckily the workers demonstrated how they pull the wagons and it's fascinating

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

It is. Very cool stuff

[@brianonthego]

The stagecoach reminds me of a place in the foothills here in California. Columbia is the town. They have an old stagecoach ride..including a stage hold up with a masked bandit. Lots of fun.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Love them. One day maybe I'll own my own....except my cat won't pull it.

[@brianonthego]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Have a great week friend.

[@AdaM48state]

Thanks Santee, that was a load of fun!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes it was!

[@kurikokaleidoscope]

Very interesting and informative.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Much appreciated!

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Welcome!

[@justinweaver8787]

Those wagons are amazing wow.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Much appreciated!

[@amandasanders7373]

Love these vids. Reminds me of Gospel Bill episodes that we used to watch at a private Christian school long ago.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@TimKoehn44]

Great information Santee! 👍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for watching!

[@chelseadanico877]

Very awesome and interesting informative video, I really loved and enjoyed it. Great job and well done. I definitely learned a lot about freighting in the old West. I’m definitely going to be adding the freighting wagons to my old West inspired interconnected novella stories I’m writing. I also got a lot of inspiration for my old West inspired novella stories as well .

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@chelseadanico877]

@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks👍🏼😎🌟

[@nealmaxwell790]

This video reminds me of the fact that my baby nieces second favorite show is Wagon Train, a western I’m not a big fan of, but she loves the horses. Her favorite is the Rifleman. Only six months old and already swoons over Chuck Conners🙄

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's so cool!

[@MomentsInTrading]

“Colorado Ute Pass” “Colorado what?” “What?” “Did you say Ute?” “Yeah, the Colorado Ute Pass” “What’s a Ute?” “Oh, sorry Your Honor. The Colorado Youth Pass” - My Cousin Vinny

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's what my wife said, too. We llve that movie.

[@DARINBAGGSGUNOUTLAW]

Another great video Santee 🍻🥃👊🤠👍👍👍👍👍 🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@whatissheuptonow]

that critter could start a fritter fight...lol @Arizona Ghostriders... Santee nice to know I'm not the only chief cook & bottle washer... lol Blessings...

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You got that right!

[@jakeoconnor3400]

I really enjoyed this one, thanks Santee

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad to hear it!

[@alswann2702]

Thanks Santee, from a modern day Teamster!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome.

[@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods]

Lol he is a friggen fritter Freighter

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL!

[@fishbonez5670]

Fritter, freighter, critter sounds like Yosemite Sam after a run in with Bugs Bunny. Love it

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yup!

[@rhorn8038]

Unless I missed the any more than the 2 AGR logos on the train engine and wagon because of the great content. As always well done team!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you! Much appreciated!

[@vernford8215]

As always, love these videos

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad to hear it!

[@jjsadventures]

Thanks Santee for another great video!!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

My pleasure!

[@jeff9104]

Great stuff Santee, amazing how big some of those freight wagons were. Could you do a video about miners, mining equipment, ore carts etc... noticed that you visited 'The ThunderMesa' Thanks 🌵🌵

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Will do. Yes, I want to interview that feller. He's pretty awesome!

[@BubbaThaumaturge]

I seem to recall The Big Valley doing a couple of episodes about the corruption in the freight business.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

No doubt!

[@Marmot689]

Hey Santee, I live at the base of Ute Pass. Thanks, Marmot.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Awesome!

[@user-neo71665]

Got a buddy that used to race wagons. The maintenance on those things is something else. His wasn't even period correct as he used modern bearings and such.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Probably have to if you are going to race them.

[@joeltowle2737]

My Great Grandfather was a Teamsters back in the 1800's! He had quite the history!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's awesome family history

[@joeltowle2737]

@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks. He had an exciting life.

[@michaelmartin5534]

Well done Mr. Santee. Are you familiar with the 'Copper Creek' area east of Mammoth, North of Tucson? There are a few pictures left of my grandfather Manuel Nunez and my great uncle Fred L. Clark hauling a narrow gauge locomotive on two wagons lashed together up the old Copper Creek road in 1911 or 1912. I remember my great Uncle Fred telling me the story and the difficulties they faced getting that engine up to Copper Creek when I was a kid in the 70s. As we now say, 'back then, they just did', all else be damned! My great uncle Fred eventually went on to buy the company from my grandfather and it became 'Fred L. Clark Sand and Rock' then ultimately, Clark Trucking Co. I worked for my great uncle Fred and his nephew Charlie Clark who eventually took over the business in the early 80s for a number of years. I'm thankful for the ethic and integrity they taught me growing up. P.S., I also know the family and story behind the 'Rifleman' series, actually based on a true story/incident from the Mammoth/Araviapa Canyon area. Continued success to you and your endeavors Sir.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for the local and family history! Never knew that about the Rifleman.

[@stevewixom9311]

Really enjoyed this video. Freighting is never really talked about in other videos. Really a good vid.. really good looking fritters too

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you very much!

[@robinherrera2562]

You missed the Tully Ochoa Freight Company which was one of the pioneers. Lots of places in Tucson have Estevan Ochoa's name as tribute to his contributions to Arizona. Look up Ochoaville which had it's own post office and cancellation stamp. It was near Hereford.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

There are literally dozens of freight companies I didn't mention. It's an overview designed to spur you on to doing more research if you're interested. Thanks for the extra info.

[@nagjrcjasonbower]

Sweet! Freight may not be “glamorous” but it sure can put smiles on faces and keep an economy growing. Nice one!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Very true!

[@vikingshaman3079]

Did some part time work with a trucker a few years back, so this was especially interesting. By the way Santee, when you're hauling those goods of yours over to Sweden, stop off here in Norway. Got a bit over a gallon of quality Scotch I inherited of my grandad, could use some help drinking it.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Wooohoo!!!! OK!

[@crazyhorseaz5224]

Morning CHORES ARE DONE HEAD EM UP MOVE EM OUT THANKS FOR VIDEO SANTEE 🤠✝️🇱🇷👍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You bet

[@jerseyred9554]

Another great episode my friend

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@Davofromdownunder65]

We had them in Australia called bullock drays, the wagons were pulled by bullocks and the drivers were called bullockies.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks for that info. Cool!

[@SomerandomShmuck]

Another great video Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mrchiefbs]

Thanks for another fantastic video, Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@henrycerro9151]

Reminds me of the old "20 Mule Team Borax" commercials.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yup!

[@imyourhuckleberry2648]

What an Interesting topic! keep up the good work Santee!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks! Will do!

[@dontcallmemrs.squibload1142]

I think we saw that ore wagon in Death Valley.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I think that's where the photo is from, so yeah!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Fritter freighter lol that was good …yep mules need their own episode

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

They'll get 'em

[@brianlojeck]

I am ashamed of how hard I laughed at the fritter freighter

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Embrace it. Love it.

[@tedebear108]

Arizona Ghost Riders. This is your friend Ted from Texas. Are you just got the chance to watch your video tonight. I definitely like to learn more about how people survive out on the Wild Frontier. Frontier living that's what I like to know about next. Thanks for the great video. Stay safe

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you! Much appreciated!

[@AaronAtkinsHonorableChairman]

hey santee! how about one about baseball in the old west? love the show and you’re the dreamiest historian west of the mississippi 😍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you! Baseball....can do!

[@trynsurviven2440]

That filthy fellow filched the fritter freighter!! Say that 10 times fast😂😂.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

NO! LOL.

[@vinnyjamea96]

Love the show.. Would like to see a show about western horse back riding..

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Certainly!

[@knightatthecrossroads222]

Seems to be a lot of fun with all those friends of yours......👌👏🍻

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

It is!

[@michaelpage4199]

I found the critter who took the fritters was frazzling for the freighter. Geesh that was a mouth full… of fritters that is. Lol

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Mmmm, fritters.

[@OutOfPrintGM]

Thanks for a great and informative video, I only found your channel recently but I love the content

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank you!

[@marcosaraiva9205]

Fritter 😋 freighter coming too town! 😄

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oh yeah!