Fremen vs Rabban troops | Dune Part Two

[@GRWelsh7]

The people that worked on this movie did an incredible job. The look of everything, the sound, it all seems so completely alien yet plausible like it really could happen.

[@davidbello9810]

Denis talking about the Ornithopter: "i want this thing to be real. I want my mother to believe this thing is real. I want it to obey the laws of gravity, to be muscular, it doesnt have to be elegant..." That's the passion and vision of the guy driving this movie. Yea, you believin' it real now huh? Haha

[@JimGames11746]

​@@davidbello9810I love watching Villeneuve talk about his vision for Dune in all the behind the scenes footage. Nothing but true passion and love for story Frank Herbert wrote. A true artist

[@TheGrrson]

The firing rate of the ornithopter-mounted gun is insane. And it is quieter than one would think, which makes it even scarier.

[@DesiArcy]

I don't think it's as high as it looks -- those mounted guns appear to be crew-served automatic shotguns, so each cluster of impacts is a single shot. The rate at which the barrel reciprocates is the rate of fire.

[@kommander7800]

Seeing this in IMAX the gun was crazy loud. Great sound design through the whole movie.

[@glennjanot8128]

They really aren't. The fire rate is less than a current assault rifle but they're shooting flechette rounds (hence the number of impacts). Kind of like a high powered shotgun that throws lots of pellets

[@gabbyprincip1575]

its a good thing the spread is terrible

[@MikeBenko]

It's a flechette gun. They show up in the books repeatedly. They basically fire a whole cluster of needle like projectiles.

[@maniak1768]

Those control room people performing some kind of ritual chant around the control panel are such a weird and alien detail in this film.

[@alexandredevert4935]

I guess they are people working together to emulate the function of a computer with a mapping and military planification software, kinda Microsoft Teams with mapping, in the future. In Dune universe, there are very heavy restriction on computing devices, and computers are typically with specially trained people aka mentats.

[@Blashmack]

​@@alexandredevert4935Yep, and they give their data as a chant because it keeps the operators in rhythm.

[@frightenedbreath8419]

omg thanks i missed it

[@MrSumphora]

This is actually a combination of a few separate scenes. Rabban and his troops get defeated and run away first. The bit with Paul and after is with Feyd Rautha in charge, and is much further down the line.

[@robbcabaian]

Three scenes

[@hengry2]

and the harkonnen capturing muad'dib's sister

[@joblessmf420]

​@@hengry2That is not his sister. Alia isn't even born yet.

[@PKTraceur]

This whole movie was ASMR in cinema, pure chills.

[@gregory4154]

It's interesting to note that the Harkonens have debased themselves so much they barely are recognizable as humans. The CGI on this is amazing.

[@timovangalen1589]

Rabban's ornithopter looks like a bumblebee

[@CBRN-115]

Maybe it's a transport variant

[@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth]

Yeah that's exactly what they were going for, they say exactly this in the art&soul of Dune part2

[@soroushazizi264]

It looks like an Mi-24.

[@seppuku_doge]

It’s fat like him lol

[@danielplainview2584]

The thermal goggles make one character look like a wasp.

[@Morfe02]

I got to love how the bird sound is the signal to blow all the spice tanks

[@glennjanot8128]

The second scene was funny. Rabban walks with his forces, call out Muad'Dib and when Muad'Dib comes forward, Rabban immediately runs away :D

[@rcnelson]

This is a spectacularly eye-filling film.

[@YasonYou]

I wanted to hear "Life! delta delta delta"

[@unowno123]

YES!!!

[@pedrosanchez-br4br]

Including rhe beheading

[@harleyb7880]

Such a good line 🎉

[@RossSundelin]

Mr. VR helmet was indeed one of the cooler characters lol

[@crysis_pyscho9386]

bro could have lied and said "theyre in the sands!" and his neck still be intact

[@pedrosanchez-br4br]

1:30 BLACK HAWK DOWN

[@MROJPC]

Look up the Helicopter Attack scene (Ride of the Valkyries) from "Apocalypse Now!" - unless you seen it, but that's what came to my mind.

[@josiahanderson9328]

@@MROJPC that is what came to my mind as well. Apocalypse Now is one of Denis Villeneuve’s absolute favourite films.

[@crysis_pyscho9386]

avatar RDA raid

[@veramae4098]

Love Fremen bursting out of the sand!

[@bwtrader]

Just a amazing way to show surprise attacks

[@pedrosanchez-br4br]

0:25 ASMR BUTTON

[@ProjectZepdos42]

1:09 This is the scene that scared the crap out of me while watching it in theaters. It was so calm and peaceful, a nice view then -BOOM-

[@tompearce5418]

Makes you wonder how many planets had resistance groups fighting against the Imperium and it's Great Houses.

[@Frizzleman]

Even Leto alludes to using some type of military force in the first movie when he says “we’ve ruled Caladan with air and sea power” and we even see their warships emerge from the ocean. Makes me wonder why atreides would need such a powerful military on a world like caladan. Who were they fighting in caladan?

[@luca8510]

@@Frizzleman They were fighting the Harkonnens for centuries and they had a much larger military than the Atreides given the weatlh they got from Arrakis

[@tompearce5418]

@@Frizzleman also the Harkonnen fief was much larger - they held Giedi Prime and Lankiveil (the home planet of Rabban and Feyd-Rautha and their parents), plus several asteroid mining colonies. Arrakis was only their property for eighty years but apparently the revenue from spice mining was huge. The Atreides only held Caladan and weren't exactly a wealthy House.

[@cedricthomas4867]

Got a ? Can a holtzman shield be airborne & still give enough vibration to attract a worm does the worm differentiate shield or ship he attacks both

[@sedlyholmes3722]

Funny enough Rabban is actually strong, he just killed a pilot with his bare hands but his mentality isn't, he ran when the fremen surprise attack them

[@user-yf7mo1mh1v]

that showed he was smart to know he has been outfoxed and overwhelmed. Too bad he did not have access to orbital or mass aerial bombardment like his brother. Rabban was literally made to govern to fail, so that his brother could over and be a hero of both of the Harkonnen and Arrakis.

[@DadeauxSensei]

Lasgun effects are tuff.

[@drphot6050]

Spice Spice Baby!

[@unowno123]

I hope you also have the full rabban counter attack at 1:10

[@GT-vl4of]

Can someone explain to me how the shield technology works in Dune? Ex. why is the shield oscillating at 0.48 and why it didn't manage to block the projectile?

[@Moritz558]

Shields work against physical projectiles, but have an absolutely devastating Interaction with lasers, for example when shot with a lasgun. In the books lasguns are a thing, but I feel to a much smaller extend compared to the films. The shields are designed to stop projectiles, but let objects through, if they move with a specific velocity. The shown projectile slowly tries to match this velocity to get through.

[@robynsun_love]

Shields (more specifically, Holtzman shields) only block objects above a certain speed and a certain mass (something like 10 cm per second and/or a few grams.) Air (and aerosols generally) are diffuse enough to pass through unimpeded; which is why the Baron’s personal shield failed to fully protect him from the poison gas released by Leto’s dying breath in Part 1. There isn’t exactly a way around this unless everyone with a shield equipped is also wearing a mask and an oxygen tank. The kind of projectiles used against the grounded Atreides fleet in Part One, as well as this ornithopter, are capable of decelerating mid-flight, allowing them to pass through the shield, before magnetically latching onto their target and then detonating - the resulting explosion is then contained by the shield until the shield generator itself is destroyed by the flames; releasing the explosion. In order to stay form-fitting around their wearers, the shields still have to take the brunt of the kinetic energy of impacts - they protect against all ranged projectiles and conventional explosions, but not necessarily all blunt-force trauma, if someone is knocked off their feet. Laser weapons (lasguns) cannot be used against shields; the beam crossing the shield would trigger a small nuclear explosion, killing both the shielded target and their assailant - given that bullets simply bounce off the shields, back to swords and daggers it is. The thrumming vibration of any shield that touches the surface of Arrakis will quickly be felt by the nearest sandworm, which is then driven into a killing frenzy more dangerous than they otherwise already are. Hope this helps. :)

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458]

ALOHA SNACK BAR!!!

[@alwaysbereadym8]

Buckshot gattling gun 😂😂😂

[@RoyceLovesHisShotgun]

2:09 terrifying visual

[@aersiul]

Guerrilla warfare ftw!

[@gavincampbell6595]

Makes me think of the locusts from the Book of Revelation.

[@The_QK]

Why did they have to take down the ornithopter first couldn't they have just skipped that and blown up the Walker like they ended up doing anyway?

[@user-vz8er4ev4h]

Imagine if fremen was with the forces of duke sheeesh not even sardaukar will wim

[@deltonlomatai2309]

Why don’t fremen use mines?

[@user-gn1wm6ue8r]

Дюна будет свободной!!!

[@beezzarro]

One problem with the Villeneuve dune is that it creates great inconsistency with the shield vs projectile convention that the book set up so elegantly. In dune, shields guard against projectile weapons. Period. Laser weapons are not used when there is a likelihood of shields also being in usage because they will cause a nuclear chain reaction and detonate. They also explicitly say that shields are not used on arrakis because it drives the worms into a kiIIing frenzy and attracts them. So why are they using shields in this film if they A) just have readily available shield penetrating weapons in utter ubiquity, and B) they will call worms which they absolutely do not want to come near a harvester??? The attack on the atreides was also like this where almost everything with a shield was useless because they had projectiles that just slowly phased through them

[@jamesbrice3267]

Worms can only sense shield vibrations through the ground, ornithopters are safe. Shields prevent projectile weapons from both sides, Paul had to lure the gunner into firing so Channi could take the shot. For safety purposes the Fremen only used lasers on the Harvester when no ornithopters were present.

[@beezzarro]

@@jamesbrice3267 shields attract either way in the book, which is in continuity with the physics of sound vibrations. We see chani's shot penetrate the shield, Duncan and Leto are hit with darts that penetrate shields, a harkonnen ship tries to shoot Duncan's ornithopter down with a laser, and all the atreides carriers are hit with similar munitions.

[@hazardeur]

@@beezzarro"the slow blade penetrates the shield" or in other words, just watch the god damn movie right

[@beezzarro]

@@hazardeur seeing as I've only mentioned projectiles, the things that shields are meant to protect against, I'm not sure what you mean

[@dannyo512]

Can someone explain why they don’t use the laser weapons all the time? They seem a lot more effective than the rocket launcherish weapons.

[@hazardeur]

because they dont wanna die in a nuclear chain explosion

[@ulyssesithaca995]

You hit a shield with a lasgun everybody blows up.

[@SuperKripke]

Free the Fremen.

[@Headloser]

Does the Rabban Troops ever get training? They being pick off TOO easy.

[@superskrull4479]

Even with training, fremen are tactical and more skilled fighters.

[@milotura6828]

in the books if i remember their just conscripts and basically a bloated Milita. They have specialist but most of their men are not well trained in Hand to hand and come from the slums and factories of their world. Also keep in mind that Sword fight requires far more training then Holding a gun.

[@user-pp5iy6ur8s]

It’s the North Koreans vs the IDK.

[@giantqtipz6577]

the Sardaukar and Harkonnens are elite fighters, but the Fremen are just better. Its like the Stormtroopers in Star Wars are usually portrayed as incompetent, but theyre actually pretty elite. Its just when Jedis are on the scene, they dont stand a chance.

[@quakethedoombringer]

@@giantqtipz6577Rebels unironically make Stormtroopers look like low level conscripts

[@lot2196]

Looks like they invented the MG42.

[@EggersLenni]

Lasguns and. Shields!?! I dont think so!!! ☹️

[@MrChowbaby69]

They don't use shields in Arrakis. Drives the worms into a frenzy.

[@quakethedoombringer]

Notice how they only use shields on the aerial vehicles while the harvesters and foot soldiers were completely exposed ?

[@housemaged]

Even if they were airborne the worms would still have felt it and it would attract them. The men and equipment on the ground would've been wasted. The battle scenes in part 2 were not canon.

[@EggersLenni]

@@MrChowbaby69 I know 🙂

[@hazardeur]

@@housemagedso you think the worms are not already attracted by a machine that weighs about as much as a small city going about and some harkonnens walking regularly next to it? it is obvious that they are just there to collect what they can and then get out once a worm comes. also, they had to protect the harvester somehow because they knew it will get attacked. what really grinds my gears is that the movie goes out of its way (in an very elegant way) to make this very clear and people still dont get it. because of people like you we have all these stupid overexplained movies.

[@geoffreypereira8024]

If they had the laze guns set and trained on the harvester…why the need to take out the ornithopter? They lost like 10 guys doing that.

[@hazardeur]

maybe because they dont wanna fucking die from a shielded ornithopter that turns them into swiss cheese? just maybe.

[@geoffreypereira8024]

@@hazardeur 1) They WERE turned into Swiss cheese. 2) They were hidden in nearby mountains. 3) They could use the same rocket launchers to attack the ornithopter should it find them.

[@hazardeur]

@@geoffreypereira8024what kind of stupid argument is that. if they used it from the start they would all be turned into cheese, and the lazer wielding ones would be the first, which is not good strategy. hidden in mountains? dude, we are talking about the year 10'000 something here. god damned, why am i even doing this, think for yourself

[@johndexterzarate6663]

....Looks like one faction won't have the air superiority anymore. Wish a newer dune game is at least a proper classic rts.

[@northamericanintercontinen3207]

Rabban is a coward.

[@pyrolight7568]

Not super sure why you needed to do any of that just to saw the harvester in half with lasers. It took them all of 10 seconds and they would have lost less people.

[@crickcrack0]

They would have shot the people with the lasers

[@hazardeur]

did you even watch the movie? god damn

[@imcallingjapan2178]

With Russia invading Ukraine, this couldn't have been made at a more appropriate time.

[@edbrook7088]

Am I the only one who’s disappointed we didn’t get fortunate son over the ornithopters?

[@SK-ii9qw]

such an advanced civilization but no laser weapons ??? lasers would easily penetrate shields.. how come they havent developed it or arent using it..

[@remoquillojosemiguel1105]

They do have laser weapons. They were used in the first movie to cut through a heavy door. Harkonnen troops also used laser rifles to return fire against the fremen in the first scenes of Dune II. The reason why laser weapons arent prevalent is because in this universe, lasers coming into contact with shields causes an explosion as powerful as a tactical nuke and nobody knows if the explosion will occur at the target or the one firing the laser gun or both, hence the return to melee combat since kinetic weapons are not as effective while laser weapons are dangerous to use

[@Ilyas-ty6cy]

you literally just see it in the first second one of them use laser rifle as a weapons. Just look again. It called lasgun, even something that come from the copter is also laser, it just in Dune world is put more realism and laser light is barely can be seen by our eyes, or almost invisible on the day light. edit : also, in Dune world when Shield active, that when you literally shouldnt use lasgun on someone with Shield. Because shooting laser to someone using Shield will create a nuke level explosion to both someone with Shield, and the one using las gun. That why in most battle using lasgun is forbidden, until it sure it safe to use it.

[@Allskil88]

Read the books. Laser on shield impact causes an explosion equivalent to an atomic bomb at "any point between impact and launch", being essentually mutually assured destruction. It's why the universe largely reverted to slugs and knives.

[@zacharykennedy3848]

You obviously haven’t read the books lol

[@georgeofhamilton]

Wait, how the heck would lasers cause an explosion at the point of firing?

[@henryhallmann4282]

If only they would have chosen someone other than Zendaya? What a mistake!

[@sbraypaynt]

…you’re not going to elaborate on this angsty nonsensical braindead shit are you?

[@imcallingjapan2178]

Why?

[@aersiul]

What are you talking about? She's great

[@TheJohnnyJohnny]

What? She's perfect for the role of Chani. What are you talking about?

[@hazardeur]

i hate the actress but even i have to say she did a good job, at least for the movie chani

[@baikalrafting]

говнофильм

[@zaostrog]

how the f..k did they knew where are Harkonens are going to deploy haarvester? In all that open desert space ,they landed fev meters from fremen fighters. Enough for me. Movie is a BS

[@keith6706]

Because it's a movie and audiences generally won't sit for a few hours watching people walk through the desert to get to a target. If you want an in-universe explanation, they obviously set up near a rich spice field and waited for the inevitable harvester to show up.

[@hazardeur]

dude if THAT is it for you....man, you cannot watch any movie thag came out in the last 50 years dude

[@zaostrog]

@@hazardeur in first movie there are no such scene

[@gonzameza5198]

Fremen vs Netanyahu troops.

[@metaphorpritam]

Opposite. Kuffarphobic Ummah are the Harkonnens.

[@aersiul]

Free Palestine/Arrakis!