Friday Favorites: Dairy and Cancer

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[@jbartmontage6737]

False information!

[@reality_design]

😊

[@pinealpowerpodcast]

My question for you Dr.Greger is, why is it that some1 who seems to know so much about (what it takes to achieve/maintain good) health also seem to display signs of advanced/premature aging?? (Perhaps it's the result of OVERWORKiNG? 🤔) & Please don't take this the wrong way bcus in reality, Eye TRULY APPRECIATE all your efforts & have been a supporter & sharer of your work for YEARS‼ Hope to hear back 😏👍🏼

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

@@pinealpowerpodcast well the man does obviously work too much, then again most doctors do... and I honestly think he looks fine!

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

@EelkeAptroot can I write messages to myself to?

[@KJSvitko]

It is just crazy that Doctors do not get nutrition training in Medical schools. Every doctor visit should include some nutrition discussion. The majority of the population is over weight or obese leading to high blood pressure, heart disease and cancer. Schools and hospital cafeterias should be leading the way to good health by setting the example of what is a healthy meal and teaching people what to eat and why.. Every person in the hospital for heart disease should have a nutrition class before being checked out from the hospital with follow up education and training in nutrition. Medicare and Medicaid should require patient nutrition education as part of their standard of care. Nutrition information should be run on the hospital TV channel.

[@sorel7342]

I'm very "pro-doctor" and I get irritated when people think they know better than medical professionals but Im also shocked that doctors don't have up to date information on diet and nutrition. A working doctor doesn't have time to do what Dr Gregor does and read all the new research but why can't they do like a half day training every year or two so they're up to date on what we know? The end result is most doctors regurgitating what they were taught a healthy diet was years ago and then less experienced doctors parroting that. I work in the NHS and we still have posters with like that pie chart of a plate on with meat and fish and dairy on there! I'm always shocked about the papers like "why don't we tell people to be vegetarian in official advice?" And the response is "it's too much to ask they won't want to" ... But some people might want to and they don't know the right information because you're too shy to tell them that eating meat every single day multiple times isn't really what a normal human body wants to do!

[@pauldavid167]

@@sorel7342 Pro doctor? Seven doctors in my practice deny long covid exists even though there are now long covid clinics. Most are clowns

[@sorel7342]

@@pauldavid167 ok I'm really sorry you set me off on an essay about doctors and their pros and cons. You don't have to read it sorry! I weirdly enjoyed writing it.. but doctors have done years and years of training to learn about very complex processes in the body and they've studied the culmination of a few hundred years of scientific and evidence-based study. Like gps (for example) are expected by some to know all the most up to date research on very specific disorders otherwise they get called a quack when really they just don't specialise in that area, like an amount that some people spend their whole careers on people expect drs to know about because they read it somewhere on google. But GPs know a massive massive amount about the body, illnesses, medications and their interactions with eachother, mental health, children too like they know SO much. Obviously that's terrible, long COVID is a huge problem and a THING but I work in the health service (not a doctor myself though) and I haven't met any who deny long COVID and actually in my service we work on long COVID a lot and none of my patients have told me their doctor denied it either. I work in mental health so some people come to my service for support with the mental effects of having long COVID and other physical problems too. I don't think doctors know everything and the fact that people expect them to is probably a really hard part of their job. But they also know a lot more than I do and they know a lot more than random internet sources which often tell people very concerning stuff.. there are people who make money online telling people with cancer that they shouldn't have chemotherapy or radiotherapy and should really try positive thinking instead, which is ghastly and dangerous. I think if a lot of people go about saying doctors are quacks then it leaves us really vulnerable to the worst kind of grifters. The dunning kruger effect is that idea that you don't know what you don't know so people think they know a lot more about some things than they do. Scientists have also found that effect is more pronounced when it's about common or familiar knowledge (that's why lots of people kind of aren't that worried about climate change because they feel like they know the weather as it's so familiar and it doesn't seem to have changed that much.. whereas you don't get so many people who don't know about computers complaining that they could have written the code that supports KZbin's dislike system better than the coders and that coders are quacks - cos that knowledge is not familiar to those of us who haven't studied it). We all have bodies, we all feel familiar with them and are experts in our own sensations and we all hear about illnesses in people around us. But that's just not the same level of knowledge that being a doctor is, it's barely in the same universe as the amount they know but like we don't know what they do.. so we assume we know more than we do Having said that I have a LOT of problems with doctors and the way they are trained. For example, I think they can be very negligent when overweight or obese people have health problems, constantly telling them to lose weight and there are countless stories of doctors missing serious conditions because they put everything down to weight rather than doing the tests they'd have done if a skinny person came in with that issue.. Then often the only solution to it is "don't be fat" which most obese people already know and theres probably a reason they can't just stop being fat or they they would plus like we said, they then don't have up to date advice to give them on diet science either! They also can act as gatekeepers to specialist care giving them a massive amount of power even if there's something they aren't well trained in.. eg you hear of GPs blocking referrals to gender transition services because they don't 'believe' in it even though it's illegal for them to do that and they might not have had any training in that area at all. I also spoke to a surgeon (a friend's boyfriend and I didn't really like him in the end) who said he usually refuses to operate on young women with abdominal pain "because it's always just mental health and you'll get stuck with them for life if you operate".. not ideal! Also at a uni near me the students had to start a petition to learn about dermatology WITH pictures of what these problems look like on darker skin. So like they are learning "this rash is dangerous and can mean you have something that can kill you and this one is an allergic reaction to washing powder" but their text books only had pictures of what those things look like on white people! And we wonder why for some reason people from non-white backgrounds don't have as good outcomes in the healthcare system?! So yeah I have tons of problems with doctors but I still am aware they know far more than I do and I hate when random people say they know better than them because 90% of the time they don't and if they're trying to convince you they do, unless they have the studies to back it like Dr Gregor, I'd say be wary

[@grandconjunct]

Yeah we need to castarate children in the name of "affirming their gender identity" , totally makes sense to me.

[@sorel7342]

@@grandconjunct wtf are you on about? Children are not being castrated and you sound completely insane. Sorry if you reply about trans kids healthcare I won't reply back because like its bad for my mental health and I specialise in trans healthcare in my profession, so like I know so much more than you it's really not worth my time to educate you. If anyone else is reading this and thought "omg children are being castrated why haven't I heard about this?!" Just know that the reason you haven't heard is because it's not happening, it's a lie spread by hateful bigots and the idiots who are taken in by them

[@mraulinaitis]

I wonder why there are studies contradicting the statements of this video? Just stumbled upon this 2021 study (Potential Protective Protein Components of Cow's Milk against Certain Tumor Entities): "With the wealth of results available today, the influence of milk on the development of various types of cancer and, in particular, its often protective effects have been shown both in vitro and in vivo and in the evaluation of large-scale cohort and case-control studies. Various caseins, diverse whey proteins such as α-lactalbumin (α-LA), bovine α-lactalbumin made lethal to tumor cells (BAMLET), β-lactoglobulin (β-LG), or bovine serum albumin (BSA), and numerous milk fat components, such as conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), milk fat globule membrane (MFGM), or butyrate, as well as calcium and other protein components such as lactoferrin (Lf), lactoferricin (Lfcin), and casomorphines, show antitumor or cytotoxic effects on cells from different tumor entities. With regard to a balanced and health-promoting diet, milk consumption plays a major role in a global context. This work provides an overview of what is known about the antitumoral properties of proteins derived from cow's milk and their modes of action."DOI: 10.3390/nu13061974

[@beepbeepnj2658]

2003 article title: Dietary patterns and further survival in Japanese centenarians. "A dietary pattern preferring dairy products was associated with increased survival in Tokyo-area centenarians." That's the only science you need to know.

[@imaresurcher]

the cancer dietitians from the NHS have put my mother on a milk protein diet while she has SPV throat cancer. she is feeding through a tube to her stomach, the food they supply for her is basically bottles of cow milk proteins with added vitamins. seems like theyre giving highly processed cancer-causing gloop to cancer patients?

[@somedudeok1451]

Maybe you can talk to the doctor about any alternatives.

[@nicolao.dos.santos]

My father is a recovered prostate cancer patient, and his doctor has prescribed him a dairy weight gainer... you can't make stuff like this up..

[@ima7333]

I, too, had tongue cancer and was fed through a tube of veggie soup coz i told my doctor that i’m a severe lactose intolerant. He first gave me a chicken concoction that turned my torso all stiff then he decided to switch it to plant based meal replacement.

[@imaresurcher]

@@ima7333 that's interesting, unfortunately my mum will just do whatever the NHS tells her and wouldn't question it. although i wonder if there are tolerance issues with tube-feeding plant juices or smoothies

[@ima7333]

@@imaresurcher i had no problem with smoothies down that tube for 3 months. In fact those smoothies were my “supplements” & lifesavers. I now live cancer free for 7 yrs. Sticking with whole plant food that were recommended to me by an ex bf & personal trainer. I kept my protein & fat intake low down to 10% each of my daily calories.

[@bohditony]

My brother dying from colon cancer was advised to eat fast food milk & eggs 😢. He’s gone.

[@chiyerano]

I am sorry to hear this. My condolences to you and your family. May your brother rest in peace. 🌹

[@sudd3660]

you could call that suicide. at least if someone told him about plant only diet.

[@cate01a]

advised to eat junk food?

[@somedudeok1451]

Thanks for breaking it down in the level of detail you always do. Gathering all this information and coming to a sound conclusion is really complicated. Your recommendation at the end leaves no room for doubt. Thx for your work. I the past year I have often caught myself eating some cheese, thinking it won't be _that_ bad, since I avoid meat, butter and milk. I will stay away from cheese in 2023 too.

[@beepbeepnj2658]

It's interesting that the Japan school lunch system is very strict, they serve whole milk to every student every day. They do not serve any plant type milk since those are made in an industrial plant which is bad for both health and the environment. Japan is the country with the highest life expectancy, the highest egg consumption rate, the highest IQ and one of the lowest cancer and obesity rates in the world.

[@isabellezablocki7447]

@@beepbeepnj2658 Japan has one of the highest stomach cancer rate in the world. Monaco and Singapour have the highest life expectancy rate. Hong Kong and Korea have the highest IQ average score. But yes Japan has one of the lowest obesity rate.

[@beepbeepnj2658]

@@isabellezablocki7447 Actually Hong Kong has the highest life expectancy and the highest meat consumption rate but it is not a country. I said the "country" with the highest life expectancy and it is Japan, it is not Monaco. Japan has higher than average stomach cancer rate not the highest because if you live the longest you will likely get something. The question is at what age did they get that disease at age 95?

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@beepbeepnj2658 Korea also has high stomach cancer and some people speculate it's the salt in the Kimchi they eat, perhaps the Japanese eat lots of salty fermented foods also or something else causing the cancers. But the longest living people in Japan are the Okinawans and their traditional diet had less than 1% meat, less than 1% dairy and eggs and less than 1% of fish too. They got something like 80% calories from carbs and vegetables like sweet potatoes was what they typically ate. Another long living population are the adventists and many of them are vegeterians.

[@beepbeepnj2658]

@@cyberfunk3793 If Okinawa had no access to synthetic vitamins, supplements or fortified foods, then how did they get their B vitamins to live so long on less than 1% meat, eggs and fish?

[@NeneChan203]

wonderful and informative video as always, thank you for everything you do doc, you're a blessing.

[@livefromplanetearth]

thank you

[@russianvegangirl]

Live how you put out everything in your video, so smooth to watch

[@russianvegangirl]

@@TeeGar =)))

[@gt777p]

I remember a tv programme a few years ago stating that Roquefort and Stilton cheese eaten often healing stomach ulcers and some forms of stomach inflamation.

[@ix-Xafra]

Good for gum disease too. It's the mould which is similar to penicillin.

[@madamecurious]

Unfortunately most plant based milks are fortified with calcium carbonate.

[@greyandblue4323]

Not mine, sorry.

[@johnnyroe8053]

That's probably good unless the dose you're getting is equivalent to a calcium supplement, look for one with less calcium added, that's good because it's protective against colon cancer

[@theartofbellydance]

@@johnnyroe8053 I am pretty sure that calcium carbonate binds to those receptors in the colon and prevents the polyps. It doesn't get absorbed into the bones though.

[@theartofbellydance]

I believe it's calcium carbonate that actually goes into the colon because it isn't absorbed well into the body. In the colon it prevents the polyps from forming.

[@zhorzhyna]

There is a distinction between organic dairy from 100% grassfed cows and regular production non-organic dairy from cows injected with growth hormones and antibiotics. There are some studies which separate the two categories, and there should be more done. Generally, thank you Dr. Greger for your research. Here is a video which talks about where IGF-1 is coming from and why people who eat dairy are more likely to develop cancers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5SpZ5ikpNRsd68 The problem with soy and almond milk is that it often contains `natural flavor`, which is created from many synthetic chemicals not even listed in the ingredients.

[@cyberfunk3793]

Exercise increases IGF-1 yet not many doctors would tell people to stop exercising for health reasons.

[@beepbeepnj2658]

You forgot to mention how C15:0 and Sphingolipids in pasture grassfed dairy destroy cancer cells.

[@angelashort1331]

A friend of mine worked at a milk factory in North nz , AS manager of bacteria count in the milk in the swirling vats , there was a number that the milk bacteria could not go over ,IF it did , the remedy was a bucket full of hydrogen peroxide , and a few other solutions , When he told me this was done frequently , . I thought this was really weird. , THIS was some years ago , Maybe they don't do that now, perhaps they use other things now , WE need some whistle blowers , maybe, ?

[@vegancatmomNL]

I just read an article that made me so miserable and do ashamed of the country where a was born and still live. In the Netherlands they are going to tripple the price of plantbased milk because it is seen as soda. Cow's milk will stay the same price because it is seen as a first necessity of human live. They also say cows milk will decrease the risk of getting cancer.. How can the government be so incredibly dumb? Cow's milk is only essential for baby cows. Dairy consumption by humans is the cause of cancer and certainly doesn't prevent it. How the hell am I supposed to live in a world like this 😩😭

[@stephss]

Keep them coming doc. They cant keep ignoring the evidence! Happy New Year 💌

[@soilikasanen]

Unfortunately they can and will. : ( As long as animal AG companies represent the "realible" source of information, people suffer, get sick and die for vain. The good news is, truth is stubborn. It doesn`t go away. It will pop up here and there : ) As a lifestyle medicine practicing physician, I do my best to enhance it to win.

[@m.m.4609]

Greg has an obvious bias towards dairy and meat. there is ton of evidence suggesting otherwise and greg even goes against his own advice in most of his videos. don't depend on others, do your own research. the papers are free to read and easy to find online. 👍

[@chiyerano]

@@m.m.4609 Oh here we go again. Another one of your sort who has either missed or forgotten about the interviews or podcasts where he has said that wild game meat is the best meat to eat while citing health results from people on a wild kangaroo diet especially when discussing the carnivore diet. He has also mentioned his problems or issues with potatoes and doesn't like the term vegan as vegan just says what a person did NOT eat and nothing about what a person actually ate which makes all the difference in a person's health. If you are going to talk about somebody, talk about them right or do yourself and everyone else a favor and don't talk about them.

[@soilikasanen]

@@m.m.4609 Please give references to studies which (according to you) have shown that dairy and meat decrease prostate cancer risk. Thanks.

[@m.m.4609]

@@soilikasanen No one said prostate cancer in specific. Dairy in general enhances and modulates the innate immune system. If you're refering to that, I am happy to send you tons of links to research papers. A good innate immune system is critical when it comes to PREVENTING cancer in the first place. Why does greg ignore thst simple proven fact? Yes, we can argue that modern non-organic dairy contains lots of antibiotics and the same can be said about modern (non-organic) meat. This does NOT mean that all dairy and meat is horrible for you and causes cancer. Heme-iron in meat for example is best absorbed by the body, plant iron is NOT. I myself was trying to get iron from plants but always had low Iron in my blood until I started eating (red) meat. I am not advocating to eat meat and dairy only. A balanced diet is crucial and eating organic too.

[@rn5697]

Although this channel is mainly focused on nutrition can we expect some episodes on stress reduction, relaxation,emotions,exercises,HIIT. These topic play a huge role in heath besides nutrition. Everyone avoid to speak about mental health but that matters the most nowadays.

[@rn5697]

@@BlairPittams ye but i know people that follow healty diet,exercise, sleep etc ...and they often say stress killed me....

[@BlairPittams]

@@rn5697 we are always in a mental war state, seek quiting the war, Stress from the warring dog eat dog world. It's like think, of serious situations as minor. Minor situations as major

[@kimmathis1945]

I am getting angry when generic terms like 'dairy' are used which are supposed to cover everything from raw milk to government cheese. It is like summing up whole grains and HFCS as 'carbs'.

[@Bachibouzouk1er]

I didn't see any paper referenced that was from the last 6 years. Why omitting the most recent research in this video?

[@scrane5500]

Hey you fish? My dad used to too but he stopped when he learned how much pesticides are stored in the fat so between that and all the heavy metals he just couldn't call it healthy anymore. Anyway have a good one.

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@scrane5500 Pescaterians had less colon cancer and lowest all cause mortality than even vegans in the AHS2 study afaik. Hard to say what is the balance of risks between the mercury etc. and the beneficial things in fish like EPA and DHA. Might depend a lot of what exact fish and where it is from one is eating.

[@leviahimsa]

It's crazy that anyone still drinks baby cows milk...

[@jbond5834]

commercial milk. u know what it means. The cows are fed with "foods".

[@BlairPittams]

I heard tomatoes are helpful for male prostate health.

[@paulmaxwell8851]

Correct. It's the lycopene in tomatoes that is so beneficial.

[@DoctorRevers]

So humans shouldn’t be drinking milk from a cow? Huh? ;)

[@mizutofu]

human milk is also high in fat and cholestral

[@christopherhunt599]

@@mizutofu yes, however once a human baby is weaned it stops taking mothers milk, so it is not a long term thing to ingest milk, which has a lot of IGF.

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@christopherhunt599 Exercise raises IGF-1 so do you avoid exercise for health reasons?

[@cate01a]

dont know if its intentional but that speech style of stressing sounds is so distracting "from *ah* ann... ...eeeevolutionary perspective, t-t-t-t-t-t-he ..." 4:23

[@BethShearon]

Products including dairy should come with big warning labels -- every milk-powder-containing box and bag and can and tetra pak!! And no more subsidies

[@samiryan214]

true as the tobacco packs

[@petervilla1816]

Wow! So why did Dr. Dean Ornish include dairy in his landmark study???

[@Lacocacolaman]

So many questions, they add vitamin D to milk? What does that do to someone over a long time? What about Raw milk? Also what’s the diet of these milk drinkers, cereal?! I don’t trust anyone anymore

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

Best wishes, doc!

[@reality_design]

👏🏽🙂👏🏽🙂👏🏽

[@DGdescendant22]

I subscribe to your channel for your amazing nutritional facts and because of the way you talk

[@cyberfunk3793]

If we should avoid IGF-1, we should then avoid exercise as that increases IGF-1.

[@theslacker]

nope. exercise increases igf1 locally, meaning only in the specific muscles that were trained, and that's for repairing process.

[@Lyachos]

What about India? They consume aloooot of dairy

[@dianasthings729]

Dr. Greger can you please enable the searching on your channel? It would make finding your videos easier thanks.

[@liamporter1137]

Awesome info. Thanks for sharing.

[@salomevitU]

Read Dr Gundry...claims lectin in almond and other plant based dairy products. Suggests coconut milk but in moderation. Also claims about lectin in leafy vegetables. Not sure if you have already made a video on that. If not can you provide information on lectin?

[@Vegan4Life_]

Plants FTW🌱

[@MatthiasKlees]

uff, you left a cheese-lover speechless, thanks for the insight, investigating and adjusting

[@alpoulin1]

Quality (real) cheese is fine and quite healthy. This channel is both entertaining and ridiculous IMO as, basically -according to the creators of these predictable videos, ONLY vegan food is healthy and ANYTHING that has anything to do with an animal is bad for you. Studies are cherry-picked and nothing good is ever said about animal based foods. Even amazingly versatile, filling and nutritious eggs are frowned upon.

[@XeLYoutube]

Partialy why im vegan and will die vegan

[@rblongfellow]

Mega good video 👏👏👏

[@coldcrush5921]

Bring back unpasteurized milk. That stuff is incredible.

[@chiyerano]

Incredible for those who have a death wish or want to get really ill.

[@ima7333]

Incredible for calves.

[@coldcrush5921]

@@chiyerano people drank the stuff for centuries. It just goes bad in a week. Hard to mass produce and far less profitable when you can just scorch it and have it sit for over a month. The reason there is so much lactose intolerance is because of pasteurization, theres microbes in milk that help you digest lactose that get killed off in the process. All the probiotics yogurt is praised for, unpasteurized milk is a gold mine of that. I was the same way till I tried it the stuff is incredible, real creamy, makes even whole milk look like water.

[@chiyerano]

@@coldcrush5921 People also drank alcohol and did all sorts of things for centuries, doesn't make it right or healthy. Many people are lactose intolerant because they rightfully abstain from the stuff when they are past infancy. You get all the good bacteria you need from whole plant based foods. Dairy isn't necessary and may even exacerbate conditions a person may have. I know it did so for me when I consumed dairy.

[@coldcrush5921]

@@chiyerano unpasteurized milk is actually healthier for you than pasteurized though. Its not the same

[@beingright]

uh-uh-uh-uh

[@PS-nv2qp]

Total BS. The map at the start shows the former Soviet Union area (Russia etc) as totally green /low mortality while they consume huge amounts of dairy.

[@androz38]

Not huge amounts, look at any chart and it puts them around 50th in dairy consumption. Less than half of what the Europeans and Americans consume

[@PS-nv2qp]

Rubbish. There are many parts of the former soviet union where they eat only two things - meat and dairy (e.g Yakutia, Arctic circle, middle east)

[@androz38]

@@PS-nv2qp show me the data then. That may be the case in low population areas. But not high population areas.

[@PS-nv2qp]

Haha, your "data" in this video is fake and biased in the first place and you now ask me to show you the data? I lived and travelled in the soviet union and I know as I compare to western countries. The premise of this propaganda video is fake and based on nothing.

[@androz38]

@@PS-nv2qp ok here come the conspiracies. You are the one making the claim, is up to you to show the data. Your feelings don't count

[@OlafsonN]

Interesting but this guy is hard to listen to

[@mikeoxmaul9386]

He sounds like seth Green's slow brother🤣

[@craigd4375]

He grows on ya!

[@jbartmontage6737]

cancelled my sub. Diary in france is very different from american diary.. I bet you dont tell about MRNA and Cancer Doctor.?

[@jbartmontage6737]

@@CRM-114 ohh, we got a corrupt conspiracy denier. Good luck 😄

[@jbartmontage6737]

@@CRM-114 Your channel is fake OZYMORON

[@chiyerano]

All dairy no matter the origin has naturally occurring hormones which encourages all cells in the body to grow and unfortunately, that includes cancer cells. I really don't understand why Northern Europeans and East Africans as well as Americans continue to consume dairy. I can understand some meat from time to time but not dairy especially long after infancy. And if you are going to glorify the French paradox where things go under reported, we definitely don't need your sort subscribing to this channel especially when there are plenty out there who will take your place.

[@jbartmontage6737]

@@chiyerano that is simply not true. The way dairy is produced today is not healthy but thats isnt the statement in the video. Diary products produced not in a factory can be very healthy. Just like a real vaccine can help immunity, if It's produced the right way.

[@ima7333]

Do you mean dairy or diary? Since when drinking the breast milk of another species is healthy?

[@BlackStar9405]

Does this evidence against dairy also apply to lactose free dairy products? @NutritionFacts.org 🧐