Frieza: The Continuous Disappointment

[@aclonymous]

this dude is making legitimate cinematic masterpieces for videos about why a character in an anime fighting game is bad. KZbin has evolved far beyond what we ever could've dreamed of

[@squiddlyd755]

KZbin began with AMVs, it shall thrive on anime games

[@TrueReverse74]

And devolved in other ways we didn't dream of

[@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO]

This is absolutely not "legitimately cinematic" lmao. I like moldy bagel's stuff but it sure as hell isnt legitimately cinematic

[@poke8754]

hes kind of a big deal, quite the funny guy

[@jordanhodge2187]

Fax

[@RetroWrathX13B]

"The best zoner in the game is a fucking Grappler!!!" *Broly does happy spin*

[@MoldyBagel]

Remove Broly

[@sammydray5919]

@@MoldyBagel no 😶

[@denisn8336]

@@MoldyBagel No

[@Ultimaxum17x]

or they could just nerf his projectiles and invincibility frames so that he can remain a grappler and not some hybrid character. I'm not saying that hybrids aren't a cool idea but if it's going to make a character unbelievably broken, then maybe a few good nerfs will make everything a bit fairer.

[@venator6155]

@@MoldyBagel No

[@amateraceon5202]

This man actually created his own bass solo to add onto a song specifically for the purposes of this video, respect

[@MoldyBagel]

:)

[@yourthrough3862]

ಠ◡ಠ

[@wTVe.]

@@MoldyBagel you could’ve give my mans a heart ? Should I call the police?

[@lavenderva2507]

@@wTVe. Public hearts on YT have been removed for some people.

[@outtrigger]

timestamp?

[@donnaabbott2079]

Believe me, Goku heart virus is worth it because it would play differently to ss1, they'd make his kick 28 frames, and he'd lose a combo halfway into it because his heart would start acting up and he'd get ko'd by himself.

[@IIAwfulWaffleII]

I found it hilarious when Cooler first came out that his lvl 1 was basically Freiza's entire level 3

[@MoldyBagel]

Holy shit true

[@NiiRubra]

On that note, can we talk about how Cooler is, true to character, just better, even though not that many people play him?

[@denisn8336]

@@NiiRubra I play cooler

[@fernandosegovia8806]

@@NiiRubra More than that, Cooler's playstyle is the absolute opposite of Frieza's and I think that makes them a very fun team, or it would if Frieza was as good as his older brother.

[@meatymateo705]

he also makes the matchup hell for frieza with literally one command normal

[@3tailedfox706]

As someone who got into Dragon Ball and subsequently DBFZ because of Frieza, my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out a GRAPPLER outclassed Frieza

[@MoldyBagel]

Yep

[@QuantumFishFTW]

That would be disappointing if that said grappler also didn't outclass every other character in the game. Not beating the best =/= being the worst.

[@simplysupreme1030]

@@QuantumFishFTW true but still with frieza being the most “zone” type character in the game it’s still a little weird. But yea giving Z bully a barrier was just kinda overkill on arc’s side

[@verymotivated7193]

Grappler?

[@simplysupreme1030]

@@verymotivated7193 yea, broly is a “grappler” type of character

[@BardsOnAHill]

Freeza is arguably the largest antagonist of Dragon Ball, they really did him dirty in FighterZ

[@Rationalist101]

Meanwhile they did an amazing job on Kid Boo

[@blyat8832]

Largest? What do you mean the little chrome dome is short af

[@RobinDaHoodP2]

@@Rationalist101 they make kid Buu broken in every game he's in. I mean it is kid Buu but still Frieza out here getting shitted on so much give this man something.

[@Rationalist101]

@@blyat8832 You know what he meant 💀

[@Rationalist101]

@@RobinDaHoodP2 I'm saying bruh I used to main freeza a while back but I just had to drop him because he was just such an underwhelming player

[@soundwaveravagesuperior]

“Goku [Heart Virus] Joins the fight” Killed me 💀

[@1thedanfan949]

And goku

[@jaiden3473]

Don’t forget goku [mid]

[@Hardman5509]

I generally thought that with the introduction of Limit Break, it would make Frieza like the best go-to anchor with his Golden Form to really make him hit insanely hard. Playing as him through the story, I did get the feeling that he wasn't that great, but I never realized how generally wimpy his attacks can be. Chip damage is a good option for him, but I think giving him better specials would also be good for him. His Lvl3 are just...wasteful. And just not interesting to look at. Something that gives him more range and priority, something that would work well with normal Frieza but really shine well with Golden Form. I still think Frieza's potential is an anchor, someone to dump all of the meter into. (Even more so with his lackluster meter gain...)

[@MoldyBagel]

His supers are all not great for sure

[@fchef8370]

Bro I always thought they should have given him a level 3 where he goes Full Power and throws that Giant Death Ball kinda like Baby’s level 3

@Justin Arzola who?

[@CarnageRulez469]

I’m sorry my guy, but even in spite of the combo and damage potential from Golden form, I refuse to even contemplate Frieza in the anchor spot under any circumstances. Not when anchors like Janemba, Base Goku, 21, and Z Broly, exist. Even by the logistics of his Golden Form, the devs clearly don’t want you using his Golden Form in that anchor spot, else they wouldn’t have given you a mechanic where you had to switch out teammates in order to save that golden transformation. Even worse when in the anchor spot, your opponent can literally just play keep away from you until your time in Golden Form runs out, not to mention the rest of Frieza’s own toolset is just the complete antithesis to the idea of “getting in on your opponent”.

[@Zeromaru42]

@@CarnageRulez469 The main problem with Frieza's design is that they can't figure out what role he's supposed to have on a team. He doesn't have meter gain and struggles with opening people up so he sucks on point. He can maybe get things done on Mid but most of that is due to Golden and once it runs out you're fucked. Anchor is where you think he'd shine but the way he's designed makes him rely so much on Golden and his decent loops that you have to play way harder than anyother character. He's a character who needs to be a tight functioning Zoner with a strong comeback potential, but a combination of no chip damage and a shitty move pool makes Golden Frieza his only chance at relevancy but it only makes him a decent character even then. What they really need to do is buff regular Frieza to Golden Frieza's strength and then buff Golden Frieza accordingly and fix his horrible moveset but I doubt it at this point.

[@nickkelley9139]

I don't even play fighting games, and I still enjoy these videos simply because of how good your editing is.

[@hewhomakesnosound]

Same, it's funny how that works

[@highlander2319]

Yeah me neither bro

[@MEpoAHMED]

Same

[@Amirrorofmirrors]

i like how at the start goku, trunks, and jiren just immediately accept they lost without even doing anything (in frieza's mind)

[@MoldyBagel]

It do be makin sense

[@destroyerofworlds4663]

*Heavy Breathing*

[@forgottengodsthatliveamong137]

It's kinda weird how in a lot of fighting games a big bad villain ends up being not very good. Especially ones that are typically very imposing in their source material. Frieza, Ganondorf, Oni, etc. Kinda weird.

[@leithaziz2716]

When it comes to Arcsys' original IP's, the big bads tends to have a better time. Happy Chaos in Guilty Gear has a lot of potential with the stuff you can do with him, and Susanoo in Blazblue borders on busted territory considering how strong he is while also having a straightforward gameplan.

[@zomboynkush8505]

Shao khan, heihachi mishima

[@leithaziz2716]

@@zomboynkush8505 Heihachi is ok. He's been busted before, but he's not that high in the meta of T7. And Shao Khan is pretty bad in MK11.

[@brendanhughes5679]

idk man Akuma and Bison have been pretty great in almost every iteration of Street Fighter

[@NeptuniumNecromancy]

@@leithaziz2716 that moment when Shao Khan doesn’t have a good mid

[@jjtjp2469]

I was waiting for this one and it didn't disappoint, what a nice surprise to close out the year. It's crazy to me how ineffective Frieza is at Zoning compared to someone like Super Baby 2. It isn't the greatest Zoning in the world, but the fact that his Projectiles have the boomerang effect in combination with the rest of his kit makes it so he can at least serve the role somewhat well, lol

[@MoldyBagel]

At least a bit better than frieza for sure

[@lul911]

@@MoldyBagel Baby 2 video when😳

[@IchigoKurosaki0715]

@@MoldyBagel I wanna see a baby 2 video too

[@nathanevans1382]

Baby isn't even half as good as Frieza at zoning, the boomerang thing doesn't make them any harder to Super Dash through, especially since Baby has a decent amount of end lag on his Ki Blasts, it's not terrible, but it's enough to catch on simple reaction.

[@luigiwiiUU]

@@nathanevans1382 Super dash at high level and see what happens

[@Micha-Hil]

4:14 we laughed at this when we first saw her, but now we tremble in fear

[@impact-on_latte4611]

We all gonna die...

[@dannyreyes3380]

Frieza: How to be a joke and not get any better Zamatsu: How to be a joke and MAKE EVERYONE SUFFER

[@guillermogerrycabrera7625]

Im a zamatsu main.

[@Tr0lliPop]

@Justin Arzola zamasu got buffed to heaven and beyond iirc

[@lewismartin3430]

@@Tr0lliPop zamazu in the DISTANCE-THIS IS TRUE JUSTICE*lighting of absolution noises*

[@axain7784]

@@guillermogerrycabrera7625 zamatsu zamatsu zamatsu _zamatsu_ _z a m a t s u_ _z a m a t s u_

[@Jeizu17]

@@axain7784 z a m a t s u

[@cameramanouter]

The fact that frieza has skills that I didn't even know existed because of how unused they are is unreal.

[@sketchydude8431]

I've been playing Freeza for a good long while now, and I'm just now learning about his eye beams What the fuck

[@kelvinplush9735]

To be fair it's not a move that you use that often

[@sketchydude8431]

@@kelvinplush9735 Pew pew 👀

[@MoldyBagel]

Yeah it's terrible

[@EvermoreUnicorn]

Literally my first character I ever played and never knew he could do that weird downwards projectile

[@ManYetNo1]

Do y’all not look at the movelist? I mean yeah its a sorry looking move but you kinda have to use it here and there to lockdown people super jumping.

[@HoDoBoDo]

Frieza: "I never had to train a single day in my life!" Me: *AND LOOK WHERE THAT GOT YOU!*

[@cooldude6269]

Clearly the answer to these woes is to give him chip damage on par with BlazBlue's Amane, which is so absurd without barrier that you're almost better off just taking the damage raw. It wouldn't really be balanced, but it would be very funny.

[@JasonGodwin69]

They should have made Frieza the Vergil of this game. A feared, dreaded character who's EXCELLENT at spending meter with 2 lost teammates and ruining your day. Bad at building meter, however.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

The world never needs more Amanes and Arakunes.

[@The_WIll_OF_D99]

Just having chipp won't help. You get Blue HP Frieza doesn't have much mix so it's not scary. It's still not forcing you to run in and make him stop. Or mashing reflect.

[@durmusaltan8957]

@@TheKing-qz9wd arakune? Based

[@vla1ne]

@@failfort7822 BeCoME OnE wITh the SOuP!

[@Neogears1312]

4:22 he was already added it’s called season 3 SS Goku.

[@MoldyBagel]

Yep

[@zenpaulpacheco2607]

4:14 The fact that Lab Coat Andriod 21 is actually a thing now makes this joke 10x funnier.

[@olixx1213]

Wasn't this video created after it was announced

[@lilusagi4992]

1:27 Goku really came all the way to Planet Namek to have Jiren and Trunks beat the shit out of Frieza, and then do a cool pose

[@protodot2051]

gotta love when you can outzone the designated zoner as the grappler

[@MoldyBagel]

It's wack

[@mattyryon]

That's why you jump in the air and do a QCF with frieza and not do this dumb ish

[@denisn8336]

@@MoldyBagel not really 21 trunks broly vegito are better zoners than frieza the problem is frieze is just bad not character’s having good neutral tools like broly.

[@mister3speed727]

During the pre release stream introducing either Super Baby 2 or SS4 Gogeta, the devs made a joke and chuckled at the thought of anyone still playing Frieza. They know how bad he is.

[@aaronwhipple748]

Bro u put a lot of work into these to make them entertaining and it is appreciated

[@MoldyBagel]

It's draining

[@teeteew0x850]

@@MoldyBagel back to work boi we need ye

[@sketchydude8431]

Looking back at this, I honestly agree that Freeza should get more substantial chip damage It would not only fit a zoner type character like Freeza, but would also fit thematically The whole point of Freeza's character is that he'd rather tear apart and poke holes in his opponents slowly rather than end them immediately He's a sadistic ruler who makes his opponents suffer before giving them the sweet release of death. just look what he does with the Z Fighters in the namek saga (impaling Krillin, blasting beams into Piccolos body, wrecking Vegeta not only physically but emotionally, and destroying Goku to the point he had to surpass his limits with the Kaioken and rely on the spirit bomb)

[@pinball3776]

Gotta love when moldybagel uploads, genuinely look forwards to these videos.

[@MoldyBagel]

:)

[@GojiBoiEarth1964]

Imagine being the most iconic villain in shonen and anime history, only to be mid tier in a game.

[@watermelongaming3698]

well, at least he isn't bottom tier.

[@BackOff_xd]

​@@watermelongaming3698Base Goku is crying rn.

[@hafizzzzzzzzzzzzz]

perhaps the next set of 365 days has something great in store for our quite unlucky, unfortunate, great leader! Thank you for all the great videos Moldy and happy new years!

[@MoldyBagel]

U 2 onward and upwars

[@pinetree1462]

actually hoping for the Freezer buff patch notes... same with Yamcha, and Zamasu

[@Kitsune986]

@@pinetree1462 It looks like you're a bit late to the party because Zamasu got omega buffed

[@Ciobrando19.]

Idk why but your pfp remindes me of ping pong the animation? Am i right?

[@hafizzzzzzzzzzzzz]

YESSIRRRRR I LOVE PINGPONG BRUH SAKUMA GOTTA BE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER BEHIND WENGE 🏓🏓

[@whatthepluh22]

Dude, your little cinematics are incredible

[@Strider315]

It’s seems like they keep buffing him every season but he’s like the opposing Kid Buu but n that he is unbuffable lol

[@plushytv5295]

He’s definitely buffable, but Arcsys doesn’t know how to do it, and keep just buffing the Golden Form.

[@Strider315]

@@plushytv5295 How would you buff him?

[@yeahwhoiwannaknowye]

@@Strider315 probably look back at how he was during season 1 Other then that idk

[@plushytv5295]

@@Strider315 definitely projectile priority, better chip damage, warp blast not being complete shit and actually tracking the opponent, giving him some of his season 1 stuff back that was removed for no conceivable reason, having his special knockdown level 3 be able to hit opponents without Frieza BEING EASILY PUNISHED, and giving him a few more moves he can use without needing Golden form to do anything, like how they gave Baseku a special Midair 2M based on his 2S. Maybe giving him ALL of this is a little too much, but if he had at least SOME of these, he would be far more usable.

[@NiiRubra]

Yeah, like Plushy and Bagel said, they are not buffing _Frieza_ , they are buffing _Golden Frieza_ , Frieza is the character you unfortunately have to start with and play with until you get 3 bars and a chance to call your third character, and then there is a risk that you will lose access to your third character at some point if you don't tag him out frequently. A really weird handicap.

[@gabrielsemipro]

It's amazing how i suck a lot at this game, but your videos make me wanna play them man, there's just so much quality and humour, happy new year everyone

[@deafmelonex6983]

Same. Happy new year.

[@DrPonk]

I had some feeling it might be a possibility but I saw it creeping in a little in this video so now I gotta ask When are we getting a full-length video dedicated to how ridiculous Broly is in numerous aspects

[@MoldyBagel]

HAHAHAH YOU CAN SENSE MY RAGE. SOON.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Lol which one? They’re both absolutely insane in their own way.

[@blacktailguy4346]

Agreed

[@Jonathannoel7600]

@@Slender_Man_186 Z Broly or as I like to call it: “Z Bully”.

[@PsychicJaguar19]

It just feels like I don't get to play the game when Z Bully is on the screen

[@TinyTorgue]

I am so frustrated with Frieza I've thought about making a video like this many times and while I agree his whole kit sucks I think his biggest weakness is his support value. He has F-tier assists and his DHC Supers aren't particularly noteworthy outside the Level 3 damage, but then he also wants to be on mid until you can comfortably install? Then they buff a bunch of other assists that weren't as bad as his but still lacking and Frieza B still has 11 frames of blockstun? Are you serious? Also, where the hell did you find the Dramatic Finishes on different stages mod? I swear I saw it like 2 years ago and it was gone when I actually needed it. Unless you do it with cheat engine somehow?

[@dirtydan8448]

Hey What’s up Torque. Love the videos man👍 Imo Frieza is just flat out awful and one of the worst designed characters. Wish he was better

[@Manny_lol]

Torgue moment

[@RacingSnails64]

The sad part is he's genuinely fun as fuck, so slippery feeling and throwing out 1000 projectiles at a time. Honestly if they just gave him more priority on most his moves that'd be a great start to let him stand his ground. Idk about Golden Frieza. Should they make it a level 5 super and make it permanent? Or at least double the length. Maybe it could be like Ultimate Gohan or Ginyu's level 1 where you can dump more bars into it for a longer duration! Also, revert the nerfs for his assist tracking and jailing. Idk why those ever happened. He needs so many little fixes like for Die By My Hand, his Golden crossups, his aerial ki blasts, his reversal, the list goes on...

[@freezinfire]

It is painful, as Frieza is my favourite character in the entire game . . . and you cant even win matches with it alone . . .

[@MoldyBagel]

Yeah feelsbadman

[@theopulentone1650]

And yet I have the nerve to have players complain about my zoning with Frieza lol. To anyone that reads this, if you lose to Frieza's zoning you're just a terrible player.

[@rikibdgd4764]

@@theopulentone1650 i think his zoning is good

[@pastepotpete2317]

What reward does he get from it none of his moves jail into vanish and chip barely exists in this game his best zoning tool Ex death slash can be avoided with super jump float and requires the frezia player to spend half a bar not only limiting its use but also locking frezia out of his golden form, and all for what it gives zero reward if they block it how is that good zoning? even on hit you end up spending 1 bar and a half just to do the move and get any sort of reward off it.

[@emprahtherocket8175]

7:26 "Can you pass me the butter?" "Yeah, sure." *Blasts him with a big energy beam.*

[@gqaot5714]

Frieza walks like a total freaky alien genotype

[@bdhhsgbyddhggg]

Frieza: is seriously op in almost every game he’s in Also Frieza: Can’t even do what he’s meant to do in FighterZ

[@akho47]

I've never played this game or any fighting game for that matter but I keep watching your videos for whatever reason

[@bigpoggers6507]

Baseball Yamcha could actually have a kit to be fair, like, imagine his supers, the level one could be him hitting a ball that loops around the world before hitting the target or something, making a delay with the hit, I can see some combo potential, and the level 3 could be him batting you to the moon and then blowing it up.

[@MoldyBagel]

dude that level one idea is honestly one of the best fan character recommendations ive ever heard i love that

[@thehalfsaiyajin5073]

Seeing Cell Just Appear Outta Nowhere To Curb stomp Frieza Is Something I didn’t Know I Needed XD 3:21

[@Ohmargod]

Dude I love your videos. That's what I call true infotainment. From the presentation, through the information, all wrapped in a comfy blanket of a great soundtrack. Thanks for making these!

[@alexwot6768]

I was already a dissapointment since I was born

[@MrJonezy541]

As a Frieza main since launch, I feel this.

[@Novarian.]

I got Fighterz this Christmas, before that point however I had watched every available Fighterz video this guy had. thanks for getting me into this game dude

[@onlylk]

Frieza has been my main since the beta and I have tons of fun playing him, but man did you put into words what I couldn’t for years.

[@cosmo-dragon3973]

- gets no priority on projectiles - no armor - no protection - no mix So he’s just… a zoner who doesn’t… zone.

[@hoohah5067]

Nostalgia went off with the freedom planet music, have a happy new year 🎉

[@MoldyBagel]

FP2 IS COMING OUT SPRING 2022 HAVE YOU PLAYED THE DEMO IT'S SO GOOD

[@hoohah5067]

Nah haven't touched it I want it to be fresh Hearing it's good is promising

[@Tobunari]

@@MoldyBagel You are a man of culture.

[@kimbaldun]

Lmao "Vegeta Pink Shirt" "Goku Heart Virus" Joins the fight

[@stalecheerios5829]

Best way to spend new years with an upload from MoldyBagel. Here's to another year of you blessing my recommended with your content

[@MoldyBagel]

You got it chief. Another year, coming right up

[@dadoggotatie5452]

Slight statistical error at 5:13, they didn't change it so that sparking extended Golden Frieza's timer, it actually just pauses the golden timer all together. So you can actually get much more time out of the transformation if you wait til it's about to end to use your sparking.

[@lucasbeck1391]

No if sparking pauses the timer for a set amount of time it doesn't matter when it's paused It matters if it resets timer though

[@upplsuckimcool16]

Yes it wouldn't matter when you used sparking in that scanario it would always last the same amount of time if it's paused.

[@k1ng336]

Evertime this man uploads I'm graced with a top tier video thank you

[@goon5665]

2 ways to fix Frieza 1) make regular Frieza good by either making him a zoner or focusing on making him rush harder through buffs to ball, pizzas, tele, eyes, and special buttons 2) just have him start golden and never leave lol

[@maudlinfaust]

Man I’ve just found this channel and the editing in the videos I’ve seen so far is genuinely elite. It would not surprise me to learn that the dude is making good money by employing his editing skills freelance

[@cheemsontheinternet385]

Ah yes, the left-handed glove coming out of his right hand. Cooler would be proud. 2:43

[@MoldyBagel]

Lol

[@HeartLxss-lo1uw]

I love your videos. You take alot of time on them which make them better to watch. Its so funny and entertaining. Plus its educational. Keep doing what you doing man.

[@MoldyBagel]

Yessir

[@squidfungus4001]

I’ve had Frieza on my main team since I started playing him. He’s been my main anchor and to me I think this video perfectly covers the flaws with him and also shows exactly what I’ve been asking for this character.

[@birdvibes510]

These intros keep getting more and more cinematic every time, keep it up! it gets exciting to think about what new thing will happen in the intro every time I click

[@EdibleBacon]

they made my tyrannical ruler into an intergalactic joke

[@MoldyBagel]

Feelsbadman

[@neoonewingedren1836]

"I'm not a clown i'm the entire Dragon Ball Evolution" - Me, a Freeza main

[@giojo0000]

Ok wasn't expecting banger freedom planet ost as soon as i clicked on this video, this is hype Oh yea and the extra solo you made, too :D

[@Archedgar]

I'm not a fan of Dragon Ball and I had never even heard of this game but I watched this whole video because of the good, engaging presentation. Well done.

[@brandonwoodhouse358]

Ive seen a few of these now, and your quality and commitment to it as such is second to none

[@noelleholiday61]

I would make only one tiny change to this video. Instead of saying that Zoners are usually meant to keep you away, I would say that they're usually balanced around keeping you at the range or "zone" they want you at, usually through very projectile-heavy specials but occasionally through mines or the like

[@keimashirokuro3653]

I don't even play this game but I keep watching your videos 10/10

[@jpag_grey497]

5:58 I have NEVER seen this eye beam attack. never seen it, never heard of it, this is the first time of years watching DB Fighterz content on YT about it

[@thehumanphantom3494]

He did things like it in Z but it wasn't exactly eyebeams. His eyes kinda glows and stuff explodes.

[@darthTwin6]

Your animations keep getting better and better! This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites!

[@DeusExMachina10001]

I must disagree with the chip damage thing. After watching/dealing with Morrigan on and off for a decade, I never want to see anything like her again.

[@MoldyBagel]

True but morrigan is also top 3 in her game that is run by zoners and chip. We don't necessarily have to have Frieza be that good

[@fissilewhistle]

I think Street Fighter V handled chip the best. Chip damage is respectable and does add up noticeably over time, but you can’t die from chip unless it’s a Critical Art.

[@noga5008]

the editing is todally awesome

[@Mepicaunhuevo]

Another great video happy new year :D

[@MoldyBagel]

U 2

[@twaggytheatricks4960]

...Is that Lord Brevon's theme from Freedom Planet at the beginning? Man, your music choice KEEPS surprising me with how good it is. Also, another great video! Lots of very useful information as usual, really appreciate it.

[@TheLeviathanYT]

Fighterz:lets make frieza a zoner! Me: ah yes, a zoner with a melee jump ki blast Although it does blast them away, they shouldve already been away in the first place.

[@lucasgabrielgonsalves9626]

I don't play DBFZ and don't intend to play it but you are one of my favourites youtubers, your videos are just masterpiece!

[@Baldtolo]

I really hope Moldybagel choses to over-analyze other fighting games. I currently have Skullgirls and a wacky game called "Blade Strangers", I would love to see this type of videos around other fighting games, but of course I understand that is his channel and he choses what to do with his content, also that DBFZ is insanely popular and cool and all, but I see him comparing DBFZ to other Fighting Games and I would love to see this type of videos about those games.

[@BigothyArchibaldBusiness]

Was def one of those moments where I was sitting here, thinking "Huh, havent watched a moldybagel vid in a while" then saw that a new vid just rolled up. THank god.

[@MoldyBagel]

I got u

[@edfreak9001]

I still want to know why Death Wave/whatever move the assist is based on counts as a projectile I never played Frieza really but it still hurts watching ZBroly's shield eat it I *think* they fixed 2H counting as a projectile at least

[@MoldyBagel]

Yeah it's wack

[@PushoverMediaCritic]

His assist is his 236L/M/H, Death Slash (that move where he exploded the ground in front of Goku before he started charging the Spirit Bomb). For some reason, Freeza doesn't even have Death Wave in this game, even though it would have made perfect sense as a second Level 1 Super.

[@fissilewhistle]

@@PushoverMediaCritic I think Death Wave and Death Slash are just different names for the same move, although they definitely should have gone with Death Wave for this game because the attack resembles a wave more than a slash.

[@PushoverMediaCritic]

@@fissilewhistle No, Death Slash is when he exploded the ground by swinging his hand up, Death Wave is when he cut Namek in half by swinging his hand down. They're different moves.

[@fissilewhistle]

@@PushoverMediaCritic If you mean the move that Second Form Frieza does, that’s called Death Storm, a different thing altogether. That’s his 2H in this game.

[@TheSuperCasual2914]

MoldyBagel: Freeza bad lol Lythero: Oh no you didn’t!

[@wubwubdododo5656]

I do not play this game but I love your videos dude, fucking excellent. Also always funny to me to see how the characters on the tierlist have shuffled around whenever a video of yours comes out! Kinda surprised 21 is at the very tippity top tbh!

[@QuantumFishFTW]

She's one of the best characters in the game atm.

[@wubwubdododo5656]

@@QuantumFishFTW Would love a video on her tbh, because I'd really like to know how the hell she beat out Broly for the top spot. I may not know much about fighting games but even I know that a grappler should not also be a zoner, let alone the best in the game.

[@simplysupreme1030]

@@wubwubdododo5656 For a short answer: She has very good range, a grab that can be used on the ground AND the air (very good at catching super dashes), good meter build with exceptional combos, her unique absorption mechanic where she can get different types of moves depending on who she uses her grab on, and her ki blast that can be angled upwards and beat a lot of options. She’s just a very strong character overall although it is rlly debatable between her and broly

[@simplysupreme1030]

@@wubwubdododo5656 Also she has a rlly good OKI, a good 21 main can cross you up in so many ways and just trick and mix you up

[@ChalupaOverlord]

I dont even play DBFZ, but your videos make me interested in it as a fighting game fan. THANK YOU i look forward to more

[@dweebyphoebe8134]

Great video with tons of good points. As a Frieza main, it's a struggle. They either need to rework Frieza to give some sort of mix, and/or give tools to better zoning. Either make Frieza great at what he was designed for, zoning, or rework his kit to fit into the rushdown style game. Below are a couple different ideas that will certainly never come true • Give Frieza a tool like Kefla's 6H. A slow overhead that can be punished with mashing. Make it cancellable from 2M(1) for a basic mixup. Frieza is a stagger/reset pressure character when close. Give the opponent something to actually fear to bait the mash/jump. Alternatively give this only to Golden • Chip. Damage. Give it to the real zoners • Stop 214S from hurting your own assists. Hurting Frieza is flavor and I like it. Hurting your assists is embarrassing • Make 22S tracking better. It's already INSANELY minus and loses to superdash. Frame 4 reversals are very very common across the cast. Alternatively, make this move somehow have DP properties. Give Frieza tools to push the opponent away and allow for a return to neutral • Fix the wonky issues with 5H. There are so many wtf moments with this move its laughably bad in neutral • Give j.2H groundbounce property to be able to combo afterwards if it is the starting move of a combo • Give Golden Frieza the cross up. Please. • Give Frieza projectiles the highest priority in the game. Make this true of all zoning types like Super Baby 2 • Lower "You shall die by my hand" to 2 bars and give it armor. There's literally no reason to use this when Golden Frieza is the best wake up option in the game Funny thing is, even if ALL of these were implemented, Frieza wouldn't even be top 5. There's still a myriad of other issues like his trash assists, low damage, lack of command grab, poor recovery from most specials, still would have perfectly reactable mixups, and would still suffer from his "dead zone". Not to mention the other options from opponents with moves that go through ki blasts, neutralize ki blasts, lariats to move quickly, etc. But hey they'll probably give 2M 90% screen range as well just to fuck with us. Cause, yknow, that solved the problems 🤦‍♀️

[@PrimeTF]

I'm absolutely baffled as to why 5LLL isn't a command grab. That's what kills me most.

[@unitedgibberish4479]

Bring back the tracking of frieza’s assist

[@sauceboss6045]

Every MoldyBagel video brings sadness with the joy because its always why the characters I like are big stinky heads and I'll always be low tier. Lol

[@diobrando6382]

1:21 It was at this moment that Frieza knew, he, fucked, up.

[@delfinner2212]

Frieza: *chips for half an hour for no kill* Lythero as Android 16: *H E A V Y* Frieza: *is one shot*

[@Thunder_Troll]

Imagine having Ki Blasts so strong that they are refered to in guides as "death beams" being able to blindside a multitude of characters in the franchise due to their sheer speed and piercing potential /power alone. Only to make them weaker than the Ki blasts of a raging green toddler and a oc character from a godawful story mode. Freeza is in my personal top 5 of my favorite Dragon Ball characters and I refuse to touch him in the game since playing him makes me physically cringe. Universal Emperor? More like universal bottom tier, and for four years I might add.

[@StriderZessei]

It hurts because it's true.

[@neoonewingedren1836]

I play with Freeza because i have a tendency of always playing with baddass villains or edgylords Freeza is a baddass villain but not a Edgylord (this goes to Zamasu) So i play with a team of Freeza Piccolo Beerus/UI Goku When i buy Zamasu i will Switch UI for him Also i don't like that much Cell and Fat Boo is too hard to learn So i will stick with the Universal Joke Freeza

[@branflakescereal4174]

I don’t know what it is with your channel, but whenever Im making a sandwich and I bring up KZbin, I always see your videos

[@Drizzekh]

2:08 "android 21 pics"

[@tedscheett9420]

"And I just keep getting reminded of my failures!"

[@dizzak101]

Wow, I never realized this game only had 1 install super -- actually crazy

[@Natoursofcourse]

BRO THE FREEDOM PLANET MUSIC????? I THOUGHT NO ONE ELSE KNEW ABOUT THAT GAME! THANK YOU MOULDYBAGEL

[@Pholadis]

i literally wasn't even aware frieza had laser eyes until this video. that's how unused of a move it is

[@MoldyBagel]

Yep

[@abbymems]

It's weird how he's a straight zoner instead of a trickster character. Before The Great Namek Dragout Super Saiyan Slugfest, Frieza used moves that paralyzed, confused, and put the heroes(though mostly base Goku, it's kinda just punchies before final form) in difficult situations. The fight lasts as long as it does because he's really into torturing his opponents in fowl ways. Somehow, Roshi was given the tricky movement and crafty stuns, while Frieza doesn't even get an iconic pinball super. Maybe it's a choice based around making one of the most popular characters an archetype everyone can easily play...but that shouldn't make him bad. Lovely video, Sir Bagel, as always. You make the cogs in my brain spin about the fighty games and I appreciate that.

[@CyanicCore]

I agree with all of this except for the chip damage. In a game with as many projectiles and long-reaching moves as Fighterz, a stronger chip system would destroy the game.

[@MoldyBagel]

If chip kills existed with most characters still having the same amount of chip damage, I doubt it would be too impactful

[@Daion_1]

Hi

[@zero123alpha6]

@@MoldyBagel i feel like at worst, they could make chip frieza's thing. Make him like a zoner that chips, then punishes attempted tag outs?

[@lionelk.y7233]

@@zero123alpha6 I'm more thinking he can chip opponents and let a teammate to finish the job? Maybe make it so that if Frieza is last alive the chip kills? I dunno

[@SupraShade]

@@lionelk.y7233 this sounds fun!

[@tsukasa9838]

I dont even play the game but i watch your content and i have to say you are my favorite DBFZ content creator

[@OWRen5432]

Lmao, Lord Frieza is finally gaming now

[@masterjoda999]

I was legitimately expecting "[Golden Frieza]'s pretty good now, but with one major flaw:" to be followed up by saying that it's still tied to playing Frieza's jank ass

[@garchompelago]

The saddest part of playing as Frieza is when you finally turn golden only to get comedy gold level of ass whooping from the opponent.

[@DavidDoboni]

Quality of your videos is just *chef's kiss*

[@Colefivenumbers]

I would love to see a video like this about Fat Buu, since similar to Nappa you rarely see him and I'd love to learn about jim and how he's played, along with how he used to be compared to now

[@strelitziathekeyblader1657]

So much for being an Emperor of the Galaxy

[@Entei9000]

8:55 It's crazy to see a Tier list with Nappa on the same level as UI Goku, and Videl on the same level as Bardock and GT Goku