Beerus: Destroyer of The Meta

[@swagzagoon2596]

Beerus after sitting in the low tiers got bored and finally decided to put in effort to remind us he's still one of the most powerful characters in all of dragon ball.

[@MoldyBagel]

man wus just nappin

[@DanteHizurotheLucario]

You cant go 100% all the time, otherwise it gets all boring

[@alonnveradaepix]

​@@DanteHizurotheLucarioyou gotta start out small

[@seanfooch6475]

​@@MoldyBagelbro had his 1000 year nap and woke up and decided to break the meta

[@Flamigussy]

Not one, he is the one

[@williamfalls]

"You became the very thing you swore to destroy!" Beerus: "I don't recall becoming your planet last night."

[@squishjones2138]

He's not broken, he's lore accurate

[@ElPrincesowo]

Ah yes, the UMVC3 Vergil treatment

[@BlackerSpaniel]

Thats what im sayin

[@MONOEDITZ75]

💀

[@koreyweaver1113]

​@@BlackerSpanielyou mean Saiyan?

[@decepticonmecha]

I was thinking the same thing. As a God Of Destruction, he SHOULD be top tier.

[@yan_dj]

I love this because if ANYONE was to be broken in this game it should've always been Beerus

[@pauloestevao8962]

He was extremely broken in the first beta, than was just way down

[@Dhampire1976]

​@@pauloestevao8962source: trust me bro

[@Koronus_]

And when everyone becomes broken! ...No one will be.

[@Tha-mountain]

@@Koronus_have u seen the story

[@TonicBlaze12]

​@Tha-mountain It's an Incredibles reference bro lol

[@gilgafresh923]

Beerus basically decided to stop fooling around after these many seasons and actually play as good as he's supposed to be.

[@SudrianTales]

This is in character

[@InfernoCleric384]

@@SudrianTales No, because then he will always be top 1 no matter what.

[@ZackReap]

​@@InfernoCleric384well if things gonna end, beerus might as well join the fun by going all out

[@xariel8056]

This guy went from making funny compilation vids to genuine top tier content. Keep it up, this is great

[@MoldyBagel]

:)

[@ShokyoLeaf]

@@MoldyBageldo you still make funny comps still? i would like to see some funny fights using the new buffed characters or smthing like what lythero does

[@HiImAiden]

I still can't believe you implemented the shadows and dust clouds of characters from other games. Insane dedication.

[@MoldyBagel]

i've gotten pretty efficient at it but lemme tell ya, sometimes it is a BITCH

[@fruitloops5672]

@@MoldyBagelall worth it. Such godly content

[@edutainmentelitetv6674]

As a professional Editor and content creator I'm dying to know how you do you implement other characters movements into other games?? must say my guy mad impressive!

[@GItANIMATION]

​@@MoldyBagelare u using mods to create this?

[@GItANIMATION]

​@@edutainmentelitetv6674i think he using mods in some of them

[@sampletext5959]

We’re not even… what, a week into the latest patch, the community is screaming, _and_ MoldyBagel releases a new video about none-other than Lord Beerus? That’s actually impressive.

[@engiopdf8745]

Point meter burns to kill anchor: Aww you're sweet Anchor meter burns to kill point: Hello? Human resources?

[@kauanjos3199]

​@@engiopdf8745 literally the whole community rn. When the comeback character actually makes a come back 😧

[@AaronV1]

Hello! Uh...so..i have a little problem, i can't update the game..does anyone else have this problem?? I play on Nintendo Switch, and i have the Digital Version, i have the 1.32, but, i can't encounter a way to update the game :(

[@kauanjos3199]

@@AaronV1 switch updates always arrive later

[@AaronV1]

@@kauanjos3199 oh.. Alright, thanks for the information!! ^^

[@Jarubimba]

12:40 An accurate representation of how every fight would end if Beerus just gave zero shit about it

[@goldengoblin8147]

I've stubbornly main Beerus for years. I cannot describe how I'm feeling right now.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

Is it a weird, somewhat annoyed elation about how your favorite character has finally been buffed that is tainted by the realization that some people will think you're just a tier whore now?

[@HonrkyReos]

​@@MusicoftheDamned You have no idea how many times I've felt that.

[@Klindir]

That he was already op for 3 patch ? Now he's on the stupid labcoat category, not even mentionning his horrifying shell with Zamasu

[@WolfXGamerful]

@@MusicoftheDamned I've had Vegito on my team for years now, but I can't stress how icky some of the fights I get into feel. He was never low tier by any means, but the recent status of the fusions just makes using them feel wrong.

[@launcherx2044]

​@@MusicoftheDamned day 1 Nago players be likw

[@shadowmanda]

*teleports behind you* Nothing personnel -Beegus

[@MoldyBagel]

i thought long and hard about using that meme, it is pretty much that

[@MoltenBoii]

When you said beegus. I just pictured someone photoshopping a photo of bingus to be purple skinned and with the G.O.D outfit.

[@Moshrocaffxiv]

As someone who's been playing Beerus since the game launched, it feels good to finally get a lore accurate version of him. It's like a reward for sticking through with him all this time

[@creeperkelten]

We meme'd on beerus so hard he became the meta I thought we had learned from this with Zamasu

[@gammalolman580]

In fact, MoldyBagel mentioned that in the Zamasu video! The jokes write themselves folks

[@Arachninja752]

"Don't underestimate the power of a God of Destruction!" That wasn't just a fun voice line for one of his specials. It was a warning. A warning we all foolishly chose to ignore. Now we must pay the price for our ignorance. This is our divine punishment. Beerus will now and forevermore be the best character in the game, and there's nothing we can do about it.

[@SagittariusAyy]

Beerus main since day one of the Switch release here. *Suffer.*

[@saiyanwithwaves5750]

About time beerus got some representation

[@Johten]

Mf ZANE?!?!

[@Klindir]

Beerus Zamasu has been godtier shell for atleast 1year half brother

[@applepieisthelife8161]

I don't play Dragon Ball Z Fighters, but when I saw that Beerus has been taking the storm a bit in Twitter, I didn't bother asking why and just told myself "Maybe MoldyBagel will tell me whats up about it." Thanks for the information Moldy!

[@MoldyBagel]

i got u

[@YTHomer]

Our God just needed his 4 Seasons of beauty sleep and now he is ready for Destruction.

[@MoldyBagel]

he overslept by 5 years

[@MTdaBlacking]

All of these Beerus changes didn't seem so bad until I remembered the teleporting level 3, to be honest.

[@MoldyBagel]

yeah that one is NOT OKAY

[@flaco3462]

@@MoldyBagel hey he told you not to get too cocky

[@VileVeilt]

​@@MoldyBagelis the teleport at least blockable or can you at least similar to coolers attack counter grab move out of the way and not activated it

[@kinokisu2859]

@@VileVeilt it's a grab, do you think it's blockable lol

[@Nouxatar]

god I love fullscreen whiff punish for 50%

[@bastianmiranda8616]

I guess he finally makes use of the fact that he's a god of destruccion

[@flaco3462]

LOOKS LIKE I GOT A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY

[@Micha-Hil]

2:53 every time something like this shows up in a moldybagel video i get giddy with excitement

[@MoldyBagel]

i always like getting an excuse to talk about other games.

[@TheMightySilverback_]

Man, the editing on this channel over the years has just gotten insane.

[@MoldyBagel]

not gonna lie when i look at the earlier videos it makes me cringe hard. of course that's how improving works, it is to be expected. if i don't look back and cringe then that means the stuff isn't any better now. still proud of it even if i DO NOT want to rewatch them LOL

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

​@@MoldyBagelFeels just like rewatching your previous matches, wins or losses I reckon

[@bingbong5076]

It's really nice to see how many good content has been added to dbfz. I remember watching you the first time explaining how frustrating the change they made before and now here we are

[@MoldyBagel]

oh trust me, there are some QUESTIONABLE changes on this patch. the devs always do some goofy stuff

[@siralknight7554]

​@@MoldyBagelginyu lv1 into body change ginyu best anchor???

[@Amsel_616]

​@@siralknight7554WHAT?!

[@abnormal9613]

@@Amsel_616yeah if your in corner as ginyu you can cancel level 1 into level 3, and I think you can still do the extra damage to yourself

[@kamatariedgar3603]

@@abnormal9613 But not after using Guldo cuz that would be broken xD

[@owenphillips2569]

You didn't mention it but I've been seeing it a lot. Beerus in the new update also has a new tech where he can level 1 into whiff level 3 (since the limit break super change) and use the level 3 to teleport behind them and get a 4 way mix up off of it. There's some cursed clips where most people just do a neutral jump and a heavy which does an unexpected cross up

[@MoldyBagel]

i did see this and actually decided to not include it, i may be proven wrong but i really just don't think there's a single mix in the game worth 4 bars to do (gt spirit bomb was different as that was a combo ender into a mix)

[@owenphillips2569]

@@MoldyBagel It’s only for block I should’ve mentioned and it’s kinda wonky when trying to do certain mixes since the level 1 launches the enemy towards you before you have time to do some of the options

[@sashankbalaji6588]

​@@MoldyBagelbase vegeta's level 3 to level 1😎

[@malmarci]

@@MoldyBagel the insane thing is he can do this mix by waking up with 214S, lv1 into lv3 LOL. Your oki? It's my oki now

[@Kitsune986]

@@malmarci 214S doesn't true string into his lvl1

[@Prominexus]

The new teleport version of his level 3 is effectively a jumpscare

[@RacingSnails64]

NOW THEN,

[@Prominexus]

@@RacingSnails64 *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-*

[@flaco3462]

he's hitting you with the "HELLO." that cell's known for

[@flaco3462]

@@RacingSnails64 DON'T GET TOO COCKY!

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

"Nothing personnel, kiddo"

[@josiahtheawkward6008]

I just know this man is sweating profusely thinking about this new patch

[@MoldyBagel]

im crying and screaming rn fr

[@andyghkfilm2287]

0:48 this is… just how the arc should’ve ended. Tbh

[@superbro6413]

Considering how recent this patch is, I'm legitimately impressed how fast you pumped this video out while including those changes too. Props Bagel, for real. It should also be mentioned, but the limit break universal buff means that Beerus can combo from his level 2 to his level 3, which is just kinda bonkers. This God of Destruction got into ArcSys' catnip stash, clearly

[@MoldyBagel]

when i saw the patch notes drop when i woke up yesterday, i was terrified of how many beerus changes there was gonna be. i am lucky it was only a couple. yeah the level 2 to level 3 thing is important to beerus especially as his level 3 has really good scaling. getting the video out today (mandated for ad deal) made me simply not have time to add that

[@wakkaseta8351]

Finally, after all these years, my decision to main Beerus has been vindicated

[@degeneracy_1018]

I feel you

[@LordTyph]

This guy didn't 'become the meta'. He was the meta, this is just him deciding to no longer hold back.

[@dubblebrick]

Just a suggestion I thought I'd share: A video on Bardock would be interesting, talking about how he reshaped the meta and how he got to where he is today.

[@fireboltchamploo7620]

Can't wait for the eventual video about the last patch, it's gonna be insane.

[@MoldyBagel]

i probably won't make a patch overview, the reasoning is that i think making videos in this format adds to their rewatchability, where as patch overviews don't have the same kind of staying power. also i can drag it out more for CONTENT HEHEHEH

[@massoik4411]

​@@MoldyBagelneat, but in your opinion, what was the craziest change?

[@yasmintarek80]

What next? Trunks?

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

(Teleports behind you) "Now then..." _"Don't get too cocky!"_

[@arktype586]

I'v just realized how similar he is from Venom (guilty gear), he is also a combination of the zoner and the setplay archetypes

[@MoldyBagel]

he even shoots orbs

[@AidenLee-r8n]

The thing that makes it interesting for me is that when comparing the changes, beerus has the clothing of champa's, and with after, he has his own clothing.

[@Rocky-yw1zo]

“You seem to be a meta character, i don’t like meta characters very much, WHIS GET THE PATCH NOTES!”

[@luxraygaming2300]

I have never been interested in playing a fighting game a day in my life, but your editing style and humor always makes me watch and rewatch these videos, they're so well made!

[@pockystyx4087]

Before meta-creation, comes meta-destruction

[@psychromaniac3525]

Full screen sliding low that dodges projectiles? Beerus confirmed as a Sol Badguy main.

[@MoldyBagel]

that reminds me of the time I learned the way you do that move in accent core is to mash inhumanly fast otherwise it doesn't go fullscreen

[@SoulGizmo]

I remember maining him before i stopped playing. Good to see hes still good.

[@justinwang8876]

"I don't like being low very much. Whis! Get the balance changes, Whis"

[@ItsYaBear]

Beerus has been my fav character since day one of this game, slowly seeing him getting better and better has been so fun. he has the most style in the game as well when it comes to combos, and I literally am pumping my fists in the air after I learned his 2m FINALLY goes fullscreen.

[@RmYoroi]

his 2m now going fullscreen didnt made it better. just the face for the assist/energy attack immunity made it better.

[@theyneverlearn3679]

Funny story, actually: If Beerus is the last character, he can cancel level 1 into level 3. This means that on YOUR oki, Beerus can wake-up DP, and if you block he can cancel DP into level 1 and then immediately cancel into level 3. If you block instead of reflecting, he has a 50/50. If you reflect, he's still plus. It's so degenerate.

[@RainworldFan228]

he finally decided to start trying

[@flaco3462]

he finished his nap

[@lucasm.3864]

The production quality on this video is amazing, from the intro to putting in a character from another game, to even something as simple as having different colors for the pre and post patch versions.

[@korhol2065]

Beerus is finally becoming the god of destruction he should have been from the beginning

[@AllucardBR-JPFS]

yoo, chelshia pfp, rare khimera w

[@ill_hex8103]

I love the visual detail of giving old version Beerus a darker color scheme while new version Beerus has his actual, more vibrant one.

[@murderoustoad]

5:15 Y the balls tho 💀

[@MoldyBagel]

DEAR GOD i did not notice that. imagine the pain

[@Ankrusa]

I dunno how appreciated that action figure edit is going to be, but honest to god I appreciate it so much and I was VERY entertained by the idea of a figure brand called "Top Tiers." Giving up all my SH Figuarts as we speak. Speaking of action, YOU NEVER MISS WITH THOSE FIGHT-RELATED EDITS MAAAAAN. That was cold, especially with the cut in with Beerus's Eye. Very solid video, and I learned a lot more than I thought I would with this one! I didn't actually know the answer of how Beerus was separated by the other setplay characters, his zoning potential wasn't something I considered. GOOOOOD stuff, keep it up king >:O

[@MoldyBagel]

i almost scrapped the action figure bit cause i was having issues finding a picture of a box with good resolution, so i'm glad i ended up being able to do it and you appreciated it

[@masterleonard3913]

I'm not sure if someone else in the comments mentioned it, but I'm surprised that the video didn't cover his broken A assist, him being able to setup solo high/low 5050, and of course his explosive damage output on point and as a DHC since his lv3 now does only 100 less damage than Baseku SSB when scaled. Great video regardless.

[@MoldyBagel]

in the kick section i meant to go over the improvement of his assist, totally slipped my mind yeah it's really good

[@luckyleo1233]

I love how everyone is talking about Beerus but no one is talking about how well that editing of millia actually hitting Beerus and Beerus taking hit damage even though they are from completely different games. Great editing moldeybagel! Keep it up and you might win a free sundae

[@naterskater12]

bro thought we wouldn’t see the “ew” underneath “real sports” at 2:40

[@lunkerdoodle-1]

In true cat nature. Beerus saw the high tiers on the edge of the table and pushed them off with no remorse.

[@jakefromstatefarm8964]

Beerus decided to actually try and he became way stronger. Now we need Yamcha to awaken 6% power and create a whole new SSSS Tier

[@TacticalOmelette]

I used to have a minigame with a friend where whenever he picked Goku Black or Goku Green (Zamasu), I counter picked Beerus and had to kill his Goku B/G with his Level 3. If I did so, I won no matter what, but he couldn't throw and purposeful kill him off. Before it was a joke cause how bad Beerus was, but now he's sweating bullets and I can't wait for our rematch

[@MoldyBagel]

LOL

[@josiahtheawkward6008]

Mario Galaxy music is goated, it gives me chills to this day. Even 8 year old me heard this and went, “OH. This is good music! Mom I think I like songs with violins!” I proceeded to get smacked in the head she thought I said “songs with VIOLENCE.”

[@MoldyBagel]

cloudy court is like the most uplifting video game song of all time

[@flaco3462]

space junk galaxy made me feel at peace even as a 7 year old kid

[@Our_Remedy]

Honestly so wacky how beerus shouts "Here's two of em'!" EVERY TIME he summons 2 orbs. So out of character

[@ultragodzillafan]

As someone who plays casually(usually against ai) and has no knowledge of fighting game mechanics, your videos are interesting and kinda easy to understand. Do you think you could cover Goku Black and Baby Vegeta at somepoint? Those are my mains and I'm curious how they scale on the competetive meta of this game, as well as what their functionality is.

[@MoldyBagel]

at some point i'm sure it will happen, as long as people watch this stuff and i can get ad deals i'll keep making it. means i don't have to get a real job lul

[@azurai3934]

Goku Black would certainly be a video to explain how he fell off hard since being very strong in Season 1 lol

[@ezar0744]

12:00 all i can think of is pringus mcdingus shouting "2MMMM!"in lobby shenaniganZ 4

[@GMKGoji01]

What did I miss?😵‍💫 How did Beerus get this powerful?

[@MoldyBagel]

the devs added party mode to the game

[@IIAwfulWaffleII]

They made DBFZ turbo mode official

[@vivelespatat2670]

They played Melee.

[@CrispyCousy]

Don't get too cocky

[@S-treme]

They make beerus lore accurate

[@vincentserrano4484]

"it was said that you would destroy the meta, not join them!" - Obi-Whis

[@MoldyBagel]

🌏 Exclusive! Grab the NordVPN deal ➼ nordvpn.com/moldy and get extra subscription time. Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee. ✌ Edit: A couple people are asking me what I meant when I said "hold the kick button" what I meant is simply to hold the input whether it be the light, medium or EX version of Beerus' ball kick. Yeah, there is no kick button in DBFZ, I worded this goofily.

[@CornbreadDestroyer]

3 HOURS??

[@svuxb]

Yessir 🎉

[@era_GG]

how does this comment say 3 hours?

[@MoldyBagel]

@@era_GGlet's just say i post early

[@Iwashere-o8o]

@@MoldyBagel hacks?

[@BrotherShaw]

"Don't get too cocky. I'm not done yet. Suppose I'll get a little serious now." Lord Beerus was warning us the whole damn time.

[@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando]

Now we need to know how zamasu holds up in the meta, after all this abuse by berus

[@MoldyBagel]

i think zams has gotten power crept a fair bit unfortunately

[@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando]

@@MoldyBagel mighty unfortunately, how the one true God has fallen

[@elygiaochu]

​@@MoldyBagelhe has a new loop with his ex lightning which does like million of damage for some reason, like his damage is not high already bruh

[@stevenkhan4203]

Beerus: "Hmpf. All this 'top tier' nonsense. I grow tired of humouring them." *acquires TELEPORT HAKAI*

[@slorty4494]

So sad to see Beerus go throuh a villain arc throughout these patches.

[@supersonictrickster4239]

Whis: Good news, my lord Beerus: What is it now, Whis? Whis: A new patch came out in that fighting game that you love so much Beerus: Yeah, and? Whis: You're good now.

[@Zackalibur]

Beerus is pure ball torture (he is now my final resort to all these mui gokus)

[@terumiaihara4246]

Beerus before : *sleeps and unmotivated* Beerus now : NOTHING PERSONAL, KID *teleports behind you and hakai your goddamn ass*

[@amateraceon5202]

I think it's funny how this one patch has caused almost every single one of the past analysis videos to be very poorly outdated in one fell swoop, though I suppose that's a good thing if it's for the sake of everyone getting buffed and becoming moreviable Maybe one of these days I should actually get this game at some point instead of just watching content

[@MoldyBagel]

stuff becoming outdated is a plus for me, as it allows me to farm more content outta this game lmao

[@Gamer-g2v1r]

12:42 Beerus really said "Nothing personal" with his lvl 3 lol

[@yearslate9349]

I love the production and context you provide in these videos. I don't even like playing DBFZ and your videos are still an insta-click for me.

[@tekusquid918]

Moldy on Zamasu’s video: “guess we’ll just have to make fun of Beerus now” Moldy watching the new patch unfold: “oh no”

[@dry90125]

Gotta say, one of my favorite things about beerus is that of course a setplay character says “I’m not done yet” once they get their knockdown

[@Kpsla]

Beerus is a hybrid Zoner-setplay character with a meterless reversal and full screen command grab super. What the fuck

[@ElementalHeroX-3]

God the energy of "I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL BUT YOU'RE JUST LIKE THEM BRO-" is priceless, and wow even as a complete noob at FighterZ I can tell that teleporting Level 3 is not ok in the _slightest-_

[@THEanotheryoutuber]

" Punish my ass, now say bye to your health. "

[@CHADCONTEXT]

Broly throwing ki blasts at Frieza is a nice nod to the fact he's the BEST ZONER! I also love Beerus Volleyball, it was cute

[@maxdawson3011]

Beerus was over here like "guys I'm low tier just like you too" just waiting for everyone to have their fun so he could have his

[@YungMido]

Great to see you implemented the different skins to show before/afters! Props to that one guy who proposed the idea

[@Hiphop270]

Nobody’s talking about how well he edited in Millia

[@BlindMischief]

To be fair, he did call it back in the Zamasu video. We memed on him too hard and now he has ascended to a height even farther above Zamasu.

[@goroakechi235]

Man I need more extensive breakdowns like this for more characters. It's really fun to watch.

[@caydenobvs9779]

What a well made video explaining beerus and the many buffs he has with a neat way of words, loved this video

[@flaco3462]

I've always loved Beerus as a character and think he's super cool, I'm glad he's finally up to snuff with how strong he truly is and he's absorbed the meta while keeping what makes him unique and kicking everyones' asses and knocking things over cuz he's a cat

[@Auraxen]

I’m glad moldy here is a super Mario Galaxy connoisseur, love all the soundtracks from the game.

[@jandastroy]

This is stupidly well edited, truly fun to watch and makes me want to learn the game more

[@Amber-h8n]

The Saiyans playing volley ball with Beerus is something I didn't know I needed in my life until now lol.

[@J1CVids]

I want everyone to sit through the fact he only used BGM tracks from Super Mario Galaxy for this video. Do you see how much it fits for a GOD OF DESTRUCTION focused video? Just incredible.

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

Ok, you did a great change with your videos. Having an alt skin show off the old Frame Data vs new Frame Data is great for helping see the difference besides just the text. I really like that change, please keep it around.

[@MoldyBagel]

yeah it was actually a comment recommendation, i don't remember from who tho. i was really really suprised i never thought of it myself

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

@@MoldyBagel Whoever it was is very smart and helped improve content

[@kairutruss3789]

"Before the meta must come destruction." - Beer Iss

[@zerorobespierre918]

04:23 The music, the angle, the animation and color chef's kiss

[@bacongamingfr69]

they gave beerus the "nothing personal kid"

[@davidhanrahan3880]

Haven’t, and probably won’t ever play Fighterz, but I tune in to every damn video for the humor and incredible presentation. Keep up the good work my dude

[@PoyntFury]

Thing is, canonically, not only is Beerus one of the most powerful beings from Universe 7, he's also one of, if not *the*, most powerful GoD. Which made it super funny to me that he had been stuck in low tier for so long.

[@BloodfelX]

I love the teleport into Level 3 Super, the ability to just instantly outmanoeuvre and delete half a character's health feels truly befitting a God of Destruction while not being quite as ridiculously overpowered as instantly defeating the opponent.

[@Dexen00]

Somebody finally uses and gives credit to the music of mario galaxy, it's truly a masterpiece of music

[@MoldyBagel]

bonkers ost. nintendo's orchestral stuff is always absolutely divine

[@flaco3462]

i love mario galaxy

[@Dexen00]

you know y ou are actually a top tier YT out here you actually reply to a lot of comments W's to you my man @@MoldyBagel

[@clarenceweaver1820]

Having Fated battle blasting in the back ground of a video about Beerus is an absolutely BASED choice.

[@Atlasamsung]

“You were supposed to destroy the meta characters not join them!”

[@Purplebeans13]

Beerus lvl 3 got that unspoken rizz. *Teleports behind you* 🐈

[@bladerxcv]

It's good to see that that one suggestion I saw under the previous video about using different costumes for pre- and post-patch got used here, it's a really nice tool