How Rank 1 NA Always Finds His “Strongest Board” - In Too Deep with Frodan

TFT Set 8.5 Guide - How rank 1 NA manages to find his strongest board, regardless of his position or the meta.
In today's In Too Deep, we take a deep dive into the mind of the NA worlds qualifier Setsuko, as we analyze his gameplay picking Built Different and playing his most robust board despite being in an unfortunate win-lose-win situation.
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[@DandyAnnieTime]

Love the content Frodan, I’ve been a fan since the hearthstone days and I’m continually impressed by your production value and depth of knowledge. Best wishes man, you’re an inspiration.

[@setsukotft2882]

im a BEAST

[@jecoeur]

Getting back into tft after stopping in set 3, ur videos have been very helpful to get me comfortable with the game again. It's also nice to see you're still around doing your thing. In my eyes you've been a positive+helpful force anywhere you go, going all the way back to the (pre-naxx) hearthstone days. This sentiment is long overdue but I appreciate everything you've done and continue to do. Also ur hair looks amazing + this video is great

[@FrodanTV]

My god, I’m gonna need a bigger tank to hold all this gas. Thank you 🙏 this comment hit hard

[@jecoeur]

@@FrodanTV 🫡 ur the goat

[@overwatch2clips669]

lol I was looking for a new upload of this series just an hour ago! mortdog bless me XD Great content bro

[@harrisonp7118]

When you watch Setsuko you realize how much he's thinking all the time, unlike every other person who streams TFT, who eventually start to auto-pilot and get contented to be Challenger, as opposed to pushing LP all the time.

[@merpaderp.___.4648]

Completely true. He only autopilots when he gets bored in which he will say "I'm bored" and proceed to force time knife scoped weapons lmao

[@scythegrill4673]

@@merpaderp.___.4648 he just did it 2 games ago and still got 2nd

[@merpaderp.___.4648]

@@scythegrill4673 Bro's cracked

[@HersonCiv]

You mention multiple times early the idea of slamming infinity edge on Ashe, but you never really bring up the fact that Ashe has no synergy with it. The AD and crit chance are nice, sure, but Ashe gains literally 0 value from "your ability can critically strike." This is because her ability merely grants her bonus AD, so she can technically already crit with her ability without the item.

[@FrodanTV]

Good shout. IE is one of the few items that has no impact on Ashe’s abilities. I’ll make sure to mention stuff like this next time

[@furielIDV]

@Elijah Oshatz it isnt good on her actually. Her ability is on ad not ability crit. So building GS on that variation is better. Also Im pretty sure it might be about that ashe 2 doesnt have much ad to multiply crit in the first place I understand IE for tempo slam but from what I rmb IE doesnt give you much AD

[@HersonCiv]

@Elijah Oshatz She benefits from the stats it gives, sure. But she doesn't benefit from it as much as other carries, meaning you're getting a smaller proportional spike in power for slamming IE on Ashe early than you would with other AD item holders, so there's more incentive to remain flexible. If Setsuko was playing around a Vayne or a Sivir as his item holder early, I guarantee he wouldn't have hesitated to slam the IE, b/c it represents a higher proportional spike in power on his board with those carries than it does with Ashe.

[@MythicWiz]

@elijahoshatz5248 IE has 3 parts of its power budget : the AD,the crit chance,and the"Ability can crit" part. ashe doesn't get the benefit from the ability can crit part which means its not an ideal item due to the power loss

[@oathkeeperss]

Frodan I don't know you are, I know little about tft about I truly love your content and pacing. Truly a marvel.

[@friek770]

he put the ie on samira with the bug

[@ltsuperbowl]

Really appreciate everything you do within the TFT space Dan. You are an awesome guy and we really appreciate you!

[@Lesterberne]

I love how much information you mention! I think something you glossed over is that Syndra works well with attack speed so built different is good for her

[@FrodanTV]

Good point! Lots of small things like that add up, great call out

[@urnoobxdd6646]

setsuko is one of the best built different players in the world

[@FrodanTV]

I personally believe he is THE best although several players can contend for this as well

[@dijone11mus1]

His play style is hard to replicate. It’s a style to aim for top 2 every game. I’m hard stuck diamond 1 so I’m tryin to learn now

[@CyberpunkSeason2]

Setsy bestsy

[@raulborlan]

Setsuko is one of the best players and teachers out there in my opinion, simply him putting the question "whats my strongest board" makes u change your way of seeing the game, i'm watching this guy for a couple good months and i've been able to hit challenger, he s really built different, and another thing that i like about him is that he is not some fucking cornflake gamerboy and he says whats on his mind. big up setsuko

[@devastae12]

vod reviewing like a beast

[@leavemydogalone]

More of this!

[@zrodmg6449]

Just like in league of legends, I feel you learn so much about the game when playing different types of strategies, so for tft there is "forcing economy" "forcing synergies" "forcing strongest board". I learned and benefited so much from this analysis of a high tier player playing strongest board force.

[@jayb9388]

I'm pretty sure that threat counts as an active trait when it comes to built different. You don't get stats from built diff on rammus. Love the vid!

[@christopherklim1781]

Was wondering about this. Is that true?

[@infinitedelete]

for a good player a lot of the info in here is very obvious but the articulation is very useful to compare and contrast thought processes as well as drilling in nuances that you notice or that i notice that you didn't speak on. good content, i believe this series will increase the skill level of the average playerbase when they find your channel. (also watching setsy play when i don't have to hear him having metnal breakdowns is much more entertaining and easy to learn from😅)

[@Radarssbm]

Been a fan since the StarCraft days and you’re killing it still. Love these videos man! Good stuff

[@ChelseaValentine]

Best tft content out there 🔥

[@elsonfreirefilho]

The quality of your content is impressive.

[@Nicentoastytoast]

IE is less than ideal for Ashe since her ability just gives AD. Slamming one due to a lack of options isn't necessarily a bad thing because the stats on it are ok, but I don't think he wanted to commit to a sloppy item slam if he didn't have to. I love the depth of your commentary though, analyzing the GOAT certainly requires the knowledge of someone far beyond myself, so thank you for taking the time to do it :)

[@FrodanTV]

Fair point and I agree with everything said. Thanks for watching!

[@denjivibes]

Not sure if I missed it in the video, but slamming IE on Ashe is generally not good because she doesn't benefit from the spellcrit at all. Her spell gives her AD which makes crit more valuable, but at the same time her spell itself can't crit, making IE pretty much a dead item unless you really cant slam anything else with sword or glove (unlikely).

[@FrodanTV]

Yep this is very true. The base stats are still fine (the raw AD and crit autos) but its a unique interaction which made slamming IE very unappetizing.

[@mattiaselisson55]

Threats dont work with built diff

[@bryandu4673]

i like your hair tied up, looks clean like yasuo

[@OccipitalVision]

Enjoyed the in-depth analysis and thought process. This is really helping me understand the game more even if I'm not working towards top ranks

[@TFTElie]

Heyy I think a reason he doesn't slam his IE either is that Ashe doesn't need it to crit on her autos even when her ability procs, so this IE wouldn't have that much value. Crit scalings are bugged too atm on some units so IE is even worse

[@FrodanTV]

IE still gives base stats such as additional flat AD but you are correct in your core point. They are also fixing the crit interaction next patch too thankfully!

[@hoanghale2671]

Hey Frodan, great educational content as always. I love these kinds of vod review when you talk about different concepts of the game, even though most Im already familiar with. Repetition does build habit. Just a thought about your commentary in that last augment selection, maybe you could have dived a bit more about considering augments that we can reroll into. I think it's a concept that most people don't pay enough attention to as people often just ask the question of ''do I like these augments'' before rerolling without considering ''what are my other options and is it worth the risk of skipping this decent but not great augment''

[@FrodanTV]

Good note! I'll incorporate that more in future videos

[@saitamaone2164]

idk he is not that smart, he play samira IE

[@johnsorrentino7173]

What does SEXO means that everybody says on streams? In my language it straight up means sex

[@FrodanTV]

It’s an emote of Homer Simpson belly dancing

[@the8thman]

He's obviously a 0.00001% player. Incredibly flexible and staying at the top for that long says a lot. That said, i can't stand his streaming persona ( or his actual persona, can't tell).

[@alexbaek2671]

The editing 😂😂

[@adriancristian2318]

did he has ADHD?

[@chefar]

not really

[@balbuzard1]

Ashe IS high AD, she gains a lot naturally thanks to her ability. IE is a good slam on her, especially when she's two star on stage 2 with a LW that also gives AD

[@Sc2Cavalry]

Is it really? I'm pretty sure her ability can't crit. Since the actual ability just buffs her AD. It's better to just built more AD or some other form of damage. That's why it's usually deathblade over infinity edge.

[@balbuzard1]

@@Sc2Cavalry keep in mind the game plan: he's playing built different with the intent to win streak . Those items are gonna end up on a 4 cost carry like jhin or Samira. That's why IE isn't a bad slam, it keeps your board strong and lets you transition to 8 more easily

[@frankli4944]

The reason he didn’t wanna slam ie early is because ie samira is bugged but glove is kinda useless cuz he already has Lw so he made it anyways

[@Puki78]

your chair makes it that it looks like you've got some eflish ears xD good video even if I just watched it to support you. Stopped playing set 8.5 after I did my placement games to get my free little legend ^^

[@dylanreeder]

threats don’t work with build diff no?

[@FrodanTV]

It does not! But they don’t require any traits to be active so you can plug and play just like you would in another comp. You don’t need all things on the board to collect value from BD

[@ChelseaValentine]

Love these videos 😊

[@crooker0045]

damn i never take BD unless its prismatic. maybe i should try it

[@BP-xv7fj]

Why you talking so many useless things

[@FrodanTV]

Useless to you but you don't know what you don't know. Not everyone is at the same level so it's important to explain things big or small.

[@Fnino42069]

do threats get the built diff effects?

[@FrodanTV]

They do not, but their stats are so high that often it can be a great way to supplement your BD boards

[@berni5641]

threats dont benefit from built different btw.

[@fariszulkifli8766]

Most underrated TFT channel

[@Chezory]

Best tft content on KZbin handsdown

[@Artes2025]

Chao dollar😂😂😂😂

[@JetLee1544]

Comment for the algo, thanks for these videos always learning so much stuff from your insight 🙏

[@FrodanTV]

Appreciate the algorithm boost 🤝

[@bzzrpzzr4182]

Hi, really appreciate these videos and how informative they are. Do you cover KR players too?

[@FrodanTV]

If you have a good game by a KR player feel free to let me know!

[@wiki6466]

Pretty sure he didn't slam IE because the bug makes it detrimental on Samira

[@FrodanTV]

He played this game about a week ago, before the IE interaction was publicly known

[@승훈진-c5i]

Why does he go for threats with built different? Threats don't get the bonus from the augment because they still count as a trait.

[@FrodanTV]

Threats don’t need traits to be impactful + they have high stats because they have no traits. You don’t need the whole board to have built different, just like sometimes high impact augments such as Jeweled Lotus doesn’t need everyone to be a perfect user of crit chance.

[@viktorkarlsson233]

When you say ”he’s scouting and sees both the win streakers are available in his pool”, how can you see that they are?

[@Lesterberne]

Swords ⚔️ below their name means you might fight them next round

[@danielblase360]

Does Build different work on Threats?

[@FrodanTV]

It does not!

[@alanoveseika261]

0:11 ??? xDD

[@Oleoay]

One thing I don't understand about TFT is why people are so fiddly with their bench moving units around. It's one thing to organize them but it seems there's a lot of unnecessary repositioning and dragging/dropping.

[@accessGrant3d1]

I think it’s all APM - tft has so much downtime that it’s easy to get bored or stop thinking

[@Clarkavey]

Its just like when you watch poker players, they keep fiddling with their chips.

[@Clay-vx1qx]

YOOO I love these vids, can’t wait to rewatch it for the next two weeks

[@its_kite]

lmao these take a lot of time man

[@Clay-vx1qx]

@@its_kite I can tell, theres a lot to learn by rewatching them. Im lucky he came up in my recommended

[@kingmk8125]

Nice video but your mic was cliping the whole video... kinda annoying u should check that, on a small format i wouldnt care but 30 min of cliping is tiresome

[@TehBananaBread]

4 cost 1 star is equal in strenght as 1 cost 2 star? what? Think you meant 2 star 1 cost

[@galaxybrian8039]

2 star 1 cost and 1 cost 2 star are the same thing, just written the other way around

[@FrodanTV]

This is the same thing but worded differently. I should maybe put up a visual next time so there’s no confusion!

[@late_august]

This video is extremely augment dependent, I would like to see how he does it when the team comp and synergies actually matter rather than a game where it's stronger to have none

[@FrodanTV]

Yes, it's true that you need Built Different to play this specific strategy, but I hope it also showcases why/how Setsuko finds edge over other people because he tends to find strongest board through smart evaluation of his units

[@fuckhandlesgivemynameback]

but who are "we"?