Frontera 2.3TD - But how is it On-road?

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ThePeca1988

ThePeca1988

2 жыл бұрын

In this video you can watch how the old Frontera behaves and performs on the road. Its a tad underpowered, a bit slow, it smokes a lot, and its stinky too, and on top of it all its made for off-road, so its pretty compromised on the road. Sooner or later you will have to use it at least a few times on the road though, and for that you get all the info here that you'll ever need.
For road use you have to take a few precautions though! Never push the car too hard, as its not meant for high speeds (and high revs) for longer periods of time. That is why i also have set my limits to about 3300RPM. when it was new it was a relatively rev-happy engine, delivering its peak power over 4000RPM, but it became old, and many things can go wrong, like popping the headgasket, destroying the old and brittle chain guides, and so on, all expensive stuff, so its better to lay back, and not to push the thing too hard. Everyone is happy without major engine damage 😃 If you have the "G90" option, be ready for some rear end noise, like klicks and rubs, as G90 is the code of the factory rear locking diff, and it makes some horrible sounds when cornering at lower speeds on the pavement 😃 nothing is wrong though, everything is perfectly fine, even if it sounds like the whole rear of the car wants to disintegrate 😄
All in all its a fun daily tractor, what can bring you through pretty much any obsticle you can throw at it, but ist not the best on the roads, there are much faster, and comfortable options out there. Though the fuel economy is pretty unbeatable with about 8-9L/100km

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@cpt.Whiskey
@cpt.Whiskey 2 жыл бұрын
And another GREAT video and camera angle 💪😎👍, from now on you are my number one Freya video provider 😁😁🍻🍻🍻
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks 😃 there will be a lot more videos, i always do something on the old machine 💪
@vonmeier
@vonmeier 3 ай бұрын
I'm considering getting a Frontera thus making some research. Thank you for your video, it was really helpful. And your shots and the landscapes are beautiful.
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate 🍻 hope you'll find yourself a nice one! Are you considering diesels or petrol ones too?
@vonmeier
@vonmeier 3 ай бұрын
@@ThePeca1988 Well, in my price range and my country the offer is quite limited. Both have some advantages and disadvantages, so I'll probably go with the type I'll find eventually. But the engine sound of the diesel is not as "bad" as I've expected.
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 3 ай бұрын
@@vonmeier in my opinion the 2.2dti is the best and cheapest diesel to maintain, most parts are still produced, available and mostly are cheap, for the older diesels like the 2.3dt and the rare 2.8tdi you will find yourself most likely in a struggle, as parts are slowly becoming out of stock everywhere, or if you find it, the prices will be astronomical. The only problem though with the 2.2dti is that it's only available on the second generation of Fronteras. What in itself isn't a huge deal, but they are very rust prone in climates where there is salt on the roads in the winter. Rear wheel arches are mostly gone (but the rust is hidden behind the plastics), and the frame itself is also usually rusted out in the rear. Inspect it very carefully for rust before buying!! In my honest opinion the best thing you can buy from the Fronteras is the short wheelbase "A" Frontera with the 2.0i petrol engine. Bulletproof engine, and quite simple too, and it also has enough power for the small short wheelbase body. I had one, and it was quite good, i just needed cargo space so i went with the long wheelbase
@vonmeier
@vonmeier 3 ай бұрын
@@ThePeca1988 Thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate it. Most of the people I know - rightfully so, haha - try to talk me out of buying such an old car, it's nice to find someone with positive attitude. I'm planning to use the car for cargo as well, so I have to stick with the longer models. There is a 2.3D from 1994 for sale, I'll check that probably. I'm a bit scared of the parts problem, but I just don't like modern cars at all, I have to gamble on this.
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 3 ай бұрын
@@vonmeier it'll be ok, if it works allright then it will most likely work for the next few years just as well. The good thing about these old cars is that there is not much to go wrong, and most of the stuff just works. They were made differently back then, so maintenance is also usually easy . If you look at that 2.3td, the first thing should be is to try a coldstart, that way you will know if the glowplugs are ok or not, then just let it run (listen to the engine for noises, timing chain rattle, and so on), test drive, and then let it run even more, that way you'll find out if the cooling is ok (thermostat, cooler, heater core, etc.), then when its at operating temperature (after the test drive) look at the oil pressure, thats pretty important, there is a gauge on the instrument panel, and if it shows barely any pressure at idle then its bad news. It will maybe drive another year or two, but not much more. As this old diesel achieves oil pressure not just via the oil pump, but also the main bearings. Also, at coldstart it should be pegged to the max (as the oil is cold, and makes a lot more pressure). If these gauges don't work be absolutely suspicious!
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 2 жыл бұрын
But is it really that slow, or its just the modern cars raising the bar with more power and acceleration? Official specs (for when it was new, 30 years ago): 0-100km/h in 19,3 seconds with a top speed of 147km/h.
@sewerynk409
@sewerynk409 2 жыл бұрын
What about consumption liters per 100km? My 92' 2.3 DTR Frontera (360 000km on dashboard ) takes approximately 8.5 liters per 100km. I am not sure if yours are younger but do you have information about new Frontera consumption. Greeting
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! My 2.3DTR takes about 9 liters per 100km, i had a 2.0i petrol aswell (short wheelbase), that also did around 9-10 litres per 100km, from the newer Frontera B i had the short wheelbase 2.2DTI, thats a lot more powerful, and still takes just about 8-10 litres per 100km, depending on how its driven. All the smaller engines do pretty good on consumption, but the bigger petrol versions (2.4i, 3.2v6) are quite thirsty, they will do about 11-12 litres per 100km at best
@user-ez7xz4kf9n
@user-ez7xz4kf9n 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePeca1988 152 тыс км на одометре ,это очень мало (или это в милях) ??? Хороший ДЖиП ☝️👍, мечтаю , у нас в Украине сложно заработать на такую машину...🥵😢 А сейчас вообще 2день WARNING !!! 🤕😱☝️ Хорошие видео, лайк ...👍
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ez7xz4kf9n Спасибо! Километр здесь не имеет значения, у него была тяжелая жизнь, но простая и ремонтопригодная. Я купил его, когда он продавался как автомобиль на запчасти, но в целости и сохранности, он стоял в поле. Немного времени и усилий, и все в порядке. Года 2-3 назад у меня был 2.0 Sport, он стоил мне всего 300 евро, и тоже нормально. я продал его, потому что он был слишком мал, но в остальном это было хорошо. он не должен быть дорогим, если он работает и ездит, то это прочная основа 🍻
@user-ez7xz4kf9n
@user-ez7xz4kf9n 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePeca1988 C Какого года выпуска Ваш 2.3 DTR ... Интересно все таки . Многое родное на авто. Совет не знаю как пользуешь авто , но ,Sparco ( резиновые брызговики не помешают для защиты и внешнего вида... Круто авто особо без коррозии, смотри ща рамой ,особенно где номер выбит , вроде позади справа... Good video🤳 👏😎
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ez7xz4kf9n это с 92 года, с первой "опелевой" серии. Рама и ходовая в хорошем состоянии для своих лет. Я почистил и перекрасил весь кузов, в основном это была только поверхностная ржавчина, так что это не было проблемой, и я также сделал раму, почистил ее, покрасил, а затем нанес немного грунтовки поверх этого. он в хорошем состоянии. салон хоть и под замену, но машины-доноры редкость, и в основном очень далеко
@user-cn7pg4rv3o
@user-cn7pg4rv3o 2 жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте, тоже есть фронтера, но 2.4. Люфт у руля такой же:)
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 2 жыл бұрын
это стандарт 😃 2.4i лучший на мой взгляд
@user-oc3mk8tm9j
@user-oc3mk8tm9j 4 ай бұрын
Нормально едит.
@ThePeca1988
@ThePeca1988 4 ай бұрын
абсолютно, это типично
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