FROSTHAVEN - Mastering the Starters

[@thomsen256]

Best videos on Frosthaven out there by far

[@tomthowe4178]

Good info. One thought - in most masteries, one thing to keep in mind with “accomplish X every turn” is that it invalidates a long rest (which is a full turn). There ARE a few exceptions, such as the geminate being able to change form during a long rest, but just something I think is good to keep in mind. I tend to like to long rest, so that has made me less willing to work towards masteries that require not taking one.

[@SCREENDOORONSUBMARIN]

Yuuuusssss thank you. Some of these are so hard to do

[@RageBadgerGaming]

You're very welcome! ... lol and not wrong

[@lavishcole]

I love your channel and I watch all of these videos! 😊 I am playing geminate right now in our party and I am loving it. I tend to play for the long haul and use my stamina to try to win the scenario rather than being too flashy.

[@somefishhere]

I love the 10-12 turn survival scenarios since the Geminate can go hard on playing all the Lost actions haha

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Lol I tend to play Gemmy too aggressively

[@blubblubwhat]

My friend absolutly hated it and was happy he finally retired. He is a value guy and could stomach using weak lost cards^^

[@travisdeppe9172]

if I create a character using a class that has previously been retired, does the class still have the perks that were gained with it previously? The rules say perk marks are permanent.

[@quadparty]

Only done one mastery so far - blink blade never get targeted by an attack. Basically got lucky on scenario 1 (not scenario O). I knew I had to move in for an attack near the end that would probably see me targeted, but the enemies it was my responsibility to deal with twice drew a card which meant they switched on retaliate instead of attacking. So I took damage, but not from an attack.

[@jurajlerotic3395]

We play at dificulty +2, Boneshaper masteries for me (currently reached lvl 5) are impossible to do, nothing worked, while Geminate did both masteries in first scenario. Unfair :(

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Lol. Unfortunately definitely doable for Gemmy.

[@kunkudunk1133]

The boneshaper is still my favorite class and I’ve still never done the kill 15 summons mastery. The only way to do it without trolling your team is basically pure luck. If the +4 on the modifier makes the skeletons attack actually defeat the target then it’s worth it. As for the rest plus bless perk you just choose the most behind/out of position skeleton since there’s usually 1 that forgot how to walk. Problem with this is to do it this way requires you to summon so many skeletons that you just don’t have the hp without certain items or team support since some of the skeletons will die before they find a +4 bomb. On top of that the more skeletons you have out the more modifiers they pull making progress towards the 15 faster. All that to say, while I actually find the +4 bomb perks useful, the most skeletons I’ve killed from it is 4, which is distinctly not close to 15 lol.

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Right. Tbh I haven't done it either lol. It's absolutely ridiculous even when you go for it

[@kunkudunk1133]

@@RageBadgerGaming yeah I don’t see it happening even with the level 8 card. Our scenarios are usually done within 3 hand cycles (sometimes 4 depending on hand size and loss cards) so even with all the summon skeleton cards and bone dagger, almost every top action would be summon a skeleton (the double skeleton level 6 card is nice but not nice enough to free up more than 1-2 top actions). That’s just an insanely wasteful use of actions and to even do the mastery the scenario has to last at least 20 rounds which honestly a lot don’t unless everyone is doing lots of long rests. I could see 10 summon kills being doable but 15 is an exercise in madness.

[@toddman121]

For the Drifter, I don’t think you don’t have to worry about a long rest using your last slot of Continuous Health. The Heal 2 on a long rest is optional, as are the Heal 1’s that Regenerate gives you. And if you’re going for the Attack 4 or Move 4 each round mastery, you can long rest. But it really helps to have a Banner Spear grant you moves during that round, or use certain items. The guy in our group who started as Drifter might be the only Frosthaven player ever to do the “last slot on four persistents” mastery, but pass on the “Attack 4/Move 4” mastery. He played as a ranged Drifter, and managed to stop on the last slot of ranged attacks, moves, heals, and I believe retaliates. He was aware of how much, much easier the other mastery was, but just didn’t feel like it. 🤷‍♂

[@TymberJ]

For the Boneshaper "Kill 15 of your summons" mastery, I took advantage of the misprint* on the character sheet that says you can do it over multiple scenarios. * Said misprint may or may not have been courtesy of my own sharpie, no Isaac helicopter raids sighted yet so I think I got away with it

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Lmaooo. The sharpie overrules everything.

[@TymberJ]

@@RageBadgerGaming I'm always going to be team "it's your game, if your group has more fun doing X, go for it". The contortions you have to go through to do this mastery (sub level 8) RAW are going to be a lot more damaging to everyone's fun than letting your Boneshaper build to it over 4 or 5 scenarios.

[@hammerspace8866]

For getting the blink blade 7 consecetive rounds mastery. *spoiler* *spoiler* Use the solo item to get 3 time tokens.

[@Raveman-oc8uf]

Thanks for the video! I'm a bit late to the party on this one, but I have a question for you. For the Deathwalker remove 7 shadows mastery, can you do it by playing eclipse while having 5 shadows already on the board (hence removing 3) then play the bottom of Ritual sacrifice to remove the reminder?

[@Harpers_harp]

I still don't get it how to play the cards right. ^^' Maybe you can make a let'splay-video, where you play the masteries in Scenario 0 with Level 1 cards? Watching someone performing the masteries on-the-board would be very helpful!

[@vuillaumearnaud7309]

I have done the 3 attack mastery of the banner spear at level 1 in the scénario 6 using the 2 level 1 multiattacks cards + tip of spear as the third to attack a flying Monster on top of an objective (considered as an ennemy) + a Monster behind it

[@Harpers_harp]

Hello, I still don't get it, I just can't imagine how to play the cards right. May you maybe make an "Let's Play" video featuring the masteries, where you actually play AND show the right turns/cards and comment on them?

[@gideonpepys]

Do you have to win the scenario in which you attempt the mastery?

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Yes.

[@govetenko]

For boneshaper, does the summon action granted by their perk count for the mastery that relies on a summon summoned on turn 1?

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Yes.

[@jaerin1980]

In your Deathwalker write up its really confusing to have you saying to use a shadow by Shadowstepping to reach something with your bottom, when I think you mean use strength of the abyss bottom to use a shadow to add +2 for your Shadow Step. Then use the top move on Shadow step to move and attack. This is 6 shadows used, then when you take damage you can teleport and use the 7th.

[@RageBadgerGaming]

Use strength of the abyss's passive ability with shadow step yes, correct

[@cubegoldberg9862]

I dont like either of the boneshaper masteries - both are just begging for a level 8 card. Wraith I didnt find viable at all since so many starting scenarios have a lot of high shield enemies, so I found myself just waiting for better cards until I retired.

[@thomsen256]

Same, the second one seems more possible but basically luck or your whole team babysitting one summon. The 15 summons hard to imagine at all before level 8

[@mestiarcanus]

I've only played BB so far of the starters and I retired at L3 so I only did the second mastery (playing 2p with a Drifter at the time so they could tank the hits and I did it in one of the first few scenarios). I've also done the second one on Drill because I didn't build to be able to accomplish the first without being ineffective. It's a lot like Boneshaper in the regard when playing 2p, you can't afford to try for it without being a massive troll or being extremely lucky with scenario selection. Otherwise I've done both on Meteor, Prism, and Kelp so far, none of which were horrible. I find them (mostly) a fun little challenge that adds some aspect of puzzle/challenge. On the flip side my friend has never tried for them once. She's new to Haven with FH but even on her 5th character (now Bannerspear) she still hasn't even tried to accomplish them, it's just not appealing enough to her. And honestly, I think (most) masteries are in the sweet spot of being challenging yet fun and not so rewarding that they feel obligatory if they're not appealing to your play style. In contrast, the effects of one building have made some scenarios actively unfun for both of us and parts of it should have been redesigned because they feel so obligatory to complete.

[@stephencleary562]

I played BB in 4P alongside Fist, and used the GH imported item 105 to focus on maximum damage to prevent Fist from taking too many hits. The masteries seem to be about directing you into the 'Fun Zone' of the character & here it showed me that the BB is most effective when it's HP is used as a resource to hit harder with a Double Time's double fast effect on Reckless Augmentation, used on a Brittled enemy, something they could both do at Initiative 10: Attack 2 Use Leaf to Brittle, then BB does attack 14. Also found it's such an effective looted with a move and loot action on one top and another bottom. There's a lot going on with the fast/slow stuff but it not a head doer in practice, it's a lot simpler than other classes to put together functional turns, as an initiative weaving rogue.

[@AaronCook83]

If you're attempting 2 masteries at the same time and "your group can't kill all the enemies," don't be so bold as to assume it's THEIR skill issue.

[@RageBadgerGaming]

If this is about the geminate :P depends on the scenario

[@DeathEatsCurry]

Doing masteries on scenario 0 is, in fact, cheating, as per the FAQ it's simply not allowed.