Frozen 2 Was A Mess, Here's Why

[@moonbunny24]

From the Frozen II artbook: "There was a version of the story where Arendelle Castle was washed away in a flood, and then rebuilt as a combination of the Northuldra and Arendellian styles. -David Womersley, art director, environments. So, YES. We almost got the thematically satisfying version where Arendelle is destroyed.

[@sopranophantomista]

I'm so angry that this didn't happen. It would have been so cool to see them rebuild back better together. It's one of those irks that makes me wanna research the hell out of this and then write my own alternative ending to a story like this.

[@marocat4749]

Such a ast to not to, and it would be a fun setting for a sequel if they want to bring in another force, and that there are conflicts, could be a point :(

[@Zay-e5p]

Disney was probably like wait we are currently building many Frozen lands around the globe this would confuse the consumers if we destroyed Anna and Elsa’s home so scrap that immediately

[@existential_horror5045]

@@sopranophantomista i would read that, please write that

[@benhart2126]

Bruh

[@Felixiroflife28]

There are so many things I wish were different about this film but I think they really missed a great gag pay off by not having Ana propose to Kristoff before he misters the courage. But that would fit her characterisation in the first film, not whatever they did to her for most of this one soooo

[@hootsyoutube]

Damn that’s good. That should have been the resolution to the Frozen short that his entire arc should have been.

[@Felixiroflife28]

@@hootsyoutube I also agree with that, but I think there might have been uproar if Ana and/or Kristoff stayed home and weren’t in the movie much… they both just should have had a better arc/plotline… like maybe something relevant to the ending, Ana realising she is actually interested in ruling Arendelle and that being a source of potential conflict between her and Elsa which is resolved when Elsa abdicates at the end?

[@hootsyoutube]

@@Felixiroflife28 I would have loved to see Kristoff actually get to be active in the story!

[@Felixiroflife28]

@@hootsyoutube my boy deserved better than this! The fact that he’s Samí coded and yet doesn’t bond with this other Samí tribe really at all? Seemed kind of insulting to his character, like he could have been the group’s translator figure but instead he has NOTHING to do?!?

[@Ziggi_onthe_RISE]

I mean, I thought he did get a bonding moment, when he is an outlier in Arendale in his close relationship with and love for reindeer (not the jokey joke sexual way that totally went over my head until Hoots mentioned it in this video), and when they meet the northuldra people who are just as respective and impassioned by the deer as he, he feels a instant connection to them that points to a way he had been cut off from part of his heritage he didn’t get to feel valid in appreciating… I found it heartwarming when I watched that 5 seconds of the movie 😅

[@riccardoleone4265]

Woah, I didn't know that Frozen II had such fucked up references. I was just obsessing over the fact that retconning Anna and Elsa's parents in people already aware of elemental magic made them even worse when they decided to lock up Elsa in her room and tell her to hide her feelings.

[@OliverHeikkinen]

I mean maybe that was supposed to be a band-aid solution since she almost killed anna. They died on a trip to learn more about her power so presumably they wanted elsa to just sit tight until they knew how to help her. But then they died so elsa just stayed in her room

[@lizzieperlizzie]

@@OliverHeikkinen yea and no, as far as I remember, they looked years older when their parents left. They shouldn't have forced her to hide her powers for that long

[@waffleauflauf4213]

That's one of the reasons why I prefer the stage musical over the movie. The parents come across as more supportive, and it shows how torn they were over having to close off their daughters from each other. And leave when their daughters are still young, showing how actively and quickly they were searching bc they intended for Elsa only to hide for the time being until it was safe, not for her entire childhood.

[@chrisz7494]

Another commenter down the chain theorised that maybe the writers could have included themes of historical revisionism and erasure, which is why Iduna doesn't have a Saami name. Maybe Iduna was a fake name, and she knew that Elsa would be ostracised if she displayed Saami elemental powers in public but just didnt know how to explain it to their 6 year old daughter. Of course we didn't get that, because Disney would rather push out a half-baked film than give their creative teams freedom to do something properly. (See Frozen 2 video by Schafrillas for context)

[@garrettcarter5622]

@@OliverHeikkinenRIP BOZOS

[@ZagTheRaccoon]

This movie would have managed to become one of the boldest Disney Movies of all time. If only they let Arendelle fall. They even evacuated everyone in preparation for it! We could have gotten them rebuilding a better society with the indigenous people!

[@sopranophantomista]

It would have been way cooler to see Arendelle fall, and then be rebuilt with the help of the Northuldra. If they're gonna rebuild, then let's rebuild back better together.

[@marocat4749]

Yeah, they even could hav made some castle-ish thing but a hybridin construction native enough , if they love their castle so much And it still would be :(, like realy good mic making ther in style could be done, and mab even a sequel.

[@raphaelmarquez9650]

They'd probably chicken out because of the Arendelle land segments they're buiding in a couple of Disney theme parks and want to reference both movies within the continuity.

[@brynniefresh9746]

Genuinely so upsetting it’s like we see the set up and the amazing story they could have told….but they did the most boring thing for no reason…I wanted to see the fucking town drown! i wanted to see them build a new town like in Encanto 😤

[@AranelEnMirkwood]

That was the original plan! In the art book there is beautiful concept art of the castle and buildings rebuilt in a hybrid style with comments that an early draft did have Ardendale be destroyed. I suspect higher ups made them change it so it wouldn't look different from the new park ride

[@Owesomasaurus]

The alternate land back cut could even have Rider and Kristoff's buddy mission is to rally the people of Arendell and evacuate them before the dam breaks, solving both problems with the script neatly.

[@marocat4749]

Through his connectig with a different sami tribe qould have fit too, in a traditional sami mariage even if thats so important, or him bing seperated an evacuating.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Wait... The events were so fast to do that.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Out of that... Since the film was out, i always liked the idea of Kristoff being closer with the Northuldra... Not because he get pretty long time with them (since Elsa and Anna go without him and the Rock Giants destroying the Dam) and when he helps Anna... The Northuldras appear and help them too... Like showing they finally are together in this... It could be epic.

[@lautaroroldanpizzorno7494]

They can't leave the forest to get to Arendelle because the mist is still there though.

[@carpiioo.806]

​@@lautaroroldanpizzorno7494 power of freindship! if elsa and anna acted as a bridge (holding hands) maybe they both, in this rendition, they also in many ways function as a bridge between the arrendelians and the northuldra by righting the historical wrongs. hahaha, just bulshitting but still 🤷🏽‍♀

[@acecat2798]

One of the things I did like (and I generally disliked the movie, though I thought it had good parts) was that Iduna's past as a Northuldra girl hidden in plain sight and forced to assimilate for survival actually shed retroactive light on why she would come to the conclusion that it was safest for Elsa to hide herself. I don't believe for a minute that the original script planned for her to be indigenous (her name is based on a Norse goddess; it's not a Sami name), but if she's going to be retconned it makes a lot of thematic sense and speaks to the anxiety that must have run her life and how she would unintentionally pass it on to her daughter. If they had, as you suggested, had Yelena be the one to make the connection between Iduna and the girls, it might've been an extra revelation if she revealed that Iduna had a traditional Northuldra name and adopted an Arendellian name to pass better. It would really hammer home that the girls didn't know their mom- or the past- the way that they thought they did, and play into the themes of hiding and historical revision.

[@chrisz7494]

Wait that's an incredible alternative. You just made me sad that this didn't actually happen

[@jultejock7185]

I'm not Saami myself, but my friend has Saami heritage. So many Saami were shamed out of using their own language, and my friends grandpa pretended not to be able to speak their Saami language. It wasn't until near his death that he revealed that he was basically fluent. My friend is now studying Saami and attempting to continue the legacy of the language that was stolen from them. There are so few resources though. So much has been lost. It's truly fucking tragic. Anyways, maybe I'm not the right person to judge, but I think your video was great. Keep up the good work!

[@lemokemo5752]

Sami isn't one language, it's a language group.

[@jultejock7185]

@@lemokemo5752 I know. I was just too embarrassed to say that I don’t remember if her family spoke south sami or ume sami.

[@outojasatuja]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4LclKKGlNOlq7s This deleted scene confirms that originally Arendelle was meant to be destroyed since Anna says "We will rebuild the castle. New, no secrets, no deceit." This scene also gives Anna the much needed appreciation and closure, her own Show Yourself moment.

[@hasyarachmakautsar2174]

That's missed opportunity because isn't founding a new kingdom is the most girl-bossy thing one could achive?

[@phadenswandemil4345]

I think another KZbinr Jenny Nicholson theorised that Disney didn't want Arendelle destroyed because they had already made an Arendelle-themed attraction. And destroying the castle in the movie would make the theme park attraction obsolete.

[@ditzylilorgans]

That would've been amazing, since I'm sure Elsa has a lot of trauma from how she had to live in the castle.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@phadenswandemil4345 I guess, but they could've also released a short film or something showing they were able to rebuild the castle after Frozen 2.

[@settheshallow8913]

That scene was legitimatley fucking beautiful, and I am mad that it got cut out. I literally started crying.

[@sitron7224]

My alarms went off the moment I heard the name Disney had given the Sámi-coded stand-ins: Northhuldra. In the Norwegian version of the film they changed the name to "northern people", because keeping it would probably have caused a national outrage. The Hulder are Nordic fairy tale creatures known in stories for hiding in the woods and mountains, where they survive by stealing and eating children, or tricking humans into marrying them so they can infiltrate their villages and take advantage of the hard-working, civilized people. I find it really strange that the writers kept insisting the "northhuldra" aren't magic to avoid harmful stereotypes, when they chose to name them after the "scary, savage forest creatures" pretending to be human. They could literally just have called them the People of the Sun. Oh, and also nit-picky side note: please don't use the term "tribes" when talking about Sámi people. The Sámi are a people with regional differences in culture and language, but do not have tribes like Native American people have.

[@taydrabrookshire347]

Wow, interesting and pretty messed up

[@Evelyn_Rose1151]

So the differences would be more like how in America someone from Georgia might speak with a different accent and do different things than a Californian, but they’re all American. Is that a decent way of understanding it?

[@sitron7224]

@@Evelyn_Rose1151 Yeah, that's a pretty good comparison! But while both Americans would speak English, there are 10 different Sámi languages. (they're all related, though, so some of them are mutually intelligeble, while others are about as different as French and Spanish)

[@FuzzyKittenBoots]

The trolls to me as a Swede look a lot like the kind of fairytale trolls that are often seen in folk and folk-inspired books with pictures. These were usually drawn during the period of national romanticism (late 19th to early 20th century) and was inspired partly by Sami but *especially* by Romani people. They commonly have large gold ear rings, tanned skinn and dark hair as well as colorful skirts.

[@EL-jq1sq]

How did I, a Swede who grew up on John Bauer, not realise this until now oh my god!

[@lemokemo5752]

Sluta med ditt hittepo

[@nezumired]

I remember when the toys came out, and one was a doll of Anya that played "The Next Right Thing." It's a serviceable song for that place in the film. But having that kind of grief and despair coming from a smiling doll was a bit disturbing.

[@katharineeavan9705]

"grief and despair coming from a smiling doll" - if that isn't a summation of every time Disney makes a decent attempt at tackling real issues

[@lilac3266]

this is the same energy as them making a mirabel singing doll play waiting on a miracle with the CANDLE as an accessory 💀

[@SkuddeOuo]

Thank you for discussing the Sami in this film with the appropriate tone. Here in Finland Frozen II was marketed with this "look it has Finnish things in it, it's a film for us!" message attached and when I watched it with a friend we were really troubled by that. Because it doesn't represent Finnish culture - it represents the cultures that we have oppressed and continue to oppress today. As much as it was fun to see things like kuksa and näkki in a big budget Disney movie, this idea that we were supposed to feel ownership over those things was really messed up. And the reindeer zoophilia line in that one song was just.... so incredibly tasteless.

[@upsetstudios1819]

As a Norwegian, when I saw Frozen I didn't realize it was depicting Norway. It felt more German. But I do love Anna's Bunad-inspired dress

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Can you explain us, please? Because looking to the houses they look like Norway rather than Germany.

[@Wonkothenormal]

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 Also to be fair many of the architects who build the norwegian cities in late 19th and early 20's century did travel abroad and had their education in Germany. So I do say several aspects of norwegian architecture are german inspired.

[@FoxyGuyHere]

I agree it does give me german feelings for some reason. I am from Nordic countries too.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@FoxyGuyHere I thought I was the only one!

[@lurawe]

Interesting! As a german, seeing the frozen fjords and Northern European architecture I immediately thought of Norway and Sweden when I first saw the movie

[@AammaK]

I just have to thank you for the decent pronunciation of the Finnish words! I can't comment on other languages but it's refreshing to hear someone actually try rather than skip words altogether!

[@hootsyoutube]

My mother's family is from northern Finland and I've been trying to learn Finnish for the last 3 years... I still can't speak it!

[@sopranophantomista]

@hoots That doesn't negate the fact that you're learning, and trying. I feel like a lot of native speakers would appreciate just the effort you put forth towards proper pronounciation, even if you garble something up. It's alright, you're still learning, and that's okay. Keep up the awesome work, hoots. Putting forth the effort always matters.

[@MrBeetlejuice16]

Wow, I actually cried watching the part of the video where you talk about the Samii culture and history. I'm a sea samii, and I'm so impressed with how you articulate our culture and history and whilst I appreciate your take (really, ollu giitu!), it pains my heart that I know for a fact that most Norwegians are unaware of any of this. It's not mandatory for students to learn about it in teaching schools, and so there is very little about Samii culture and history in the school system, because teachers haven't studied it themselves. Meanwhile there is an ongoing human rights violation happening at Fovsen Njaarke in Trøndelag where colonial infrastructure prohibits reindeer herders to use the area and land the way they used to for several decades. If anything I hope Frozen 2 has made people more interested in Samii culture and thus engourages them to do more research into our issues like this video does so well. Ollu giitu.

[@getmotherd613]

wait its not mandatory to learn about? im norwegian and we have learned so much about samii people and the opression they have faced (and continue to face).

[@fluff_bunny1885]

i feel like elsa dying was so out of nowhere, i had no feeling that her going to atahollan was dangerous and when she froze i was just kind of like,, bro what. i think they could've foreshadowed that better by having her attempt to access the past earlier in the movie but start to become cold and have like her fingertips freeze/get frostbite. eases the audience into this wildly different tonal shift.

[@chrisrpm8728]

It is foreshadowed, at several points she’s told not to go too far down

[@tagussie]

I know right? They made a whole deal about the cold not bothering in the first one

[@fluff_bunny1885]

@@chrisrpm8728 didn't see this till now, but i meant more in the immediate moments. i felt no creeping sense of alarm, no building sense of danger. my thoughts when i posted this were that i just didn't even know we were coming to a climax. the previous events all felt like a beginning with no middle. that was why i mentioned tonal shift. i couldn't recognize that a big event was coming- i thought this was something good and that elsa would come back to anna and there would just be more to see. the journey did not feel fleshed out. i think thats most everyone's opinion tho lol

[@king-wenskiii58]

it would also parallel with first movie "don't aim for the heart" and keep a consistency in the magic building. Going too far has consequences: a strand of white hair can become a whole head of white hair with the risk of a frozen heart, and risking too close to truth can be your end too. Both ideas are played, and in the first movie it is an actively foreboding risk.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

I am still weirded out that in a story based on a Danish fairytale, there's practically nothing of my native Denmark in any of the Frozen films. Good on you for your pronounciation of Mattias and Hygge. It's exactly like I would have said it.

[@Gloomdrake]

It also doesn't have much of the fairy tale in it

[@magscovers8924]

I think they were going for a pan-Scandinavian film and did it very inexpertly. They said they used inspiration from Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, and Finland though I would think it would be more Baltic. What I found disrespectful having a grandmother with Swedish parents and who had lived in Sweden as a girl and had educated me on the Sami people was they put the Northern Sami language under special features instead of languages. I mean by definition it’s a language. I would be very offended if someone called English or Swedish a special feature.

[@ZyllasAthenaeum]

Thanks for digging into that weird mishandling of indigenous cultures by Disney. It keeps being a problem with all their best films! But you know, you're right- an attempt was definitely made. Thank goodness for the Saami and others like them around the world. We've gotta keep doing the next right thing. Brick by boring brick.

[@harriyanna]

seriously, i truly do enjoy your content. even thought the movies has flaws that are frustrating you still found ways to praise it when needed.

[@willowtree7326]

34:11 disagree with this idea that they should have had native American actors portray the Sami characters if they could not have the Sami voice actors do them. Indigenous cultures are not interchangeable. hiring actors with Sami herratige like you said after that suggestion would be the way to go if the dub actors could not for some reason.

[@everforward5561]

Separating the sisters was such a bizarre, annoying choice. I'm not sure what they were thinking, considering they sell better as a set.

[@alexdingley9808]

oh my god i'm so glad i'm not the only one that thought arendelle being swept away (only to have the city actually rebuilt on trust) would've made for a stronger ending

[@saturnash]

the adult swim interstitial joke caught me so offguard and i laughed out loud 🤣

[@butwithcats265]

💯

[@NomicFin]

As a Finn, I have one small correction: the land of the dead in old Finnish mythology was called Tuonela. Pohjola (literally "Northland" or something along those lines) was the land of the people the protagonists of the Finnish national epic Kalevala fought against, ruled by Louhi the witch. Granted, old Finnish mythology isn't super consistent (it wasn't written down until centuries later and there's a lot of different versions of the same stories with similar elements but also major differences), so there might be some versions where Pohjola is used for the land of the dead, but Tuonela is certainly the more common term.

[@nicole-ls4jb]

You touched on so many things that bothered me about the movie the first time I saw it (and came crashing back the second time): The "I awoke the spirits of the forest" (Huh? How did you figure *that* out??); the Northuldra people who are there for five minutes and feel like a nod towards "see, we included some indegenous folks this time!" before disappearing; and worst, worst, WORST of all, the realizing that the dam was harmful, and we need to acknowledge that and change how we do things and then ... nah, the spirits decided Arandelle deserved to be saved. Huh??? (Points to realizing the spirits were forcing the kingdom out so they'd be safe when the flood finally came *coff coff* - that totally sailed by me, but makes All Kinds of Sense!

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Absolutely... To me, The Northuldra are one of the WORST executed character groups i ever watched... Other thing about the Dam... If they don't show us the consequences of the Dam... Then why we should care about the "Retribution" of Arendelle getting destroyed? If you never show us the consequences of the Northuldras, how their lives changed or even if they had rancor against Arendelle... Why we should care?

[@mallk238]

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 in the two seconds it gets shown on screen, it is shown that before the dam was built it was more forest and a really tiny river. After the dam the water level was so high that it was now just all water. It's pretty clear (from a few rewatches) exactly why the dam is bad...which is why it's so confusing to me that they didn't touch on it at any point. A lot of plot reasons for this movie are there but require 2-3 rewatches before you see it; I'm pretty sure that if your movie makes no sense when someone first watches it, then it's already having problems.

[@bboops23]

I hated Frozen 2. I actually thought that I was going crazy when so many people told me they liked it and I thought it was just bad. You are voicing pretty much every problem that I have.

[@arturo182]

This video went in a different direction than I expected, but it's a very important topic, so thank you for covering it. Also, love the RtD sticker!

[@arturo182]

Not sure why my Patreon name in the credits has a ' at the beginning, but no big deal ;)

[@MainelyMandy]

I really appreciated all the info about the Saami. Thank you for making this!!

[@juliacheneyillustration3928]

When I first watched this movie, it was on the tiny screen of a portable DVD player. At the time, I was a full-time volunteer missionary for the cult-like Mormon church. Normally, we weren’t allowed to watch movies, but the Pandemic just started and we were stuck in quarantine, and the mission president had mercy on us and allowed us to watch Disney movies to preserve our sanity. My autism was yet undiagnosed and I was struggling with anxiety and depression. I didn’t understand why I was different from the other missionaries and why things were so much harder for me. Frozen II was the first movie I’d seen in over a year. I soaked it all up. The animation was beautiful, even on the tiny screen. The story was an absolute mess, but I really resonated with Elsa’s journey of self-discovery. Even with all its problems, this movie meant a lot to me and is one of my favorites. It was what I needed at the time. I also blame Frozen II Elsa specifically for my Bi awakening lol

[@fatcat1414]

My biggest complaint with Frozen 2 was that it had a large-scale fantasy plot but still managed to feel empty to me. So much happens but so little of it feels of substance. You pointed out several points where the plot was lacking, and it felt so cathartic to hear.

[@skippycoulter]

On New Zealand btw if you wanted to you could call it Aotearoa which is the universally accepted te reo Maori name for the islands. It is quite common here to call it Aotearoa New Zealand, which I like for recentring the name used by the tangata whenua the land ought to be held by.

[@carucath97]

I really didn’t like that they decided that Elsa should be “free”. It felt like it undermined the ending of the first film with them being separated and Anna is just put into her sister’s shoes

[@roshanfey]

me too. there's a difference between freedom and abandoning your kingdom. and i don't like how anna is always left to follow after her sister in some way. she's her own person.

[@Ziggi_onthe_RISE]

This actually makes me realize why I have problems with the indigenous representation in Strange World. A story might get input from indigenous people, but the [typically and overwhelmingly] white executive people running the show always seem to ruin it. In strange word, I love that there is some truly valuable representation going on for multi-racial families and lgbtq rep, but then they had to go and base the premise on **spoiler** turtle island mythos, and other relative multi-cultural belief in the world existing on the back of a living organism that we need to care for, and live in harmony with…. But where Disney gets it wrong for me in Strange World is that they code the leaders of the industrialized society to be native indigenous American coded, and the white and mixed race main characters (more representational of average “modern” post-colonial american types) are the ones who figure out that they live on/in a giant turtle creature that their industrial way of life is causing the death of. The indigenous coded characters turn combative initially, locking them up and ignoring them in order to resist change, and thus perpetuate industrial environmental collapse. They have to be “educated” on the truth and how to recognize their past ways are wrong. This is so offensive as I see it, because the opposite has almost always been the case, where indigenous spiritual, social and economic way of life has traditionally been in promotion of harmony with the earth. As far as I have been able to find, NO ONE has touched on this misrepresentation, and I can’t find anyone talking about it.

[@pheonixrises11]

considering climate change and pollution, writing the indigenous people as the ones harming their environment would be hilarious if it wasn’t sad.

[@Ziggi_onthe_RISE]

@@pheonixrises11 what’s super sad is I’d pretty much rather there had been no characters dressed up to seem indigenous at all, and have the premise just been an appropriation of indigenous mythology. At least in that case it could conceptually have left up a wall of fantasy around it (like the whole “it’s a fantasy world, and not meant to draw a direct comparison to Earth and our exact situation here” kind of approach). By adding in the indigenous coded characters, especially in such an ignorant way, it fully breaks me out of the story viewing it, because it makes it impossible [for me anyway] to not see this as a clear mishandling of cultures… adding in those characters that dress like, and have the facial, hairstyling, and skin tones that visually cue as indigenous means that someone likely thought they were doing a good thing by being inclusive, but it was from such a misinformed place that they did a disservice instead. It comes across as woke for the sake of diversity points, instead of promoting true inclusivity.

[@liv.s.]

this has the same energy as tim burton making all the black people in wednesday the bully characters 💀

[@StarryInkArt]

Agreed.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Except I’m strange world, it was the white person who found the dangerous way of life. And it made sense that they wouldn’t want to change it, considering 1. Why would they believe they’re on a turtle and 2. The whole point of the start of the movie was to save their village. There was a lot wrong with that movie, but I don’t think, indigenous people wants to keep their dangerous way of life, is one of them.

[@sacharyy]

Indigenous justice is overlooked on such a large scale. It’s really nice to see videos like this.

[@nightwingphd8580]

The kind of content that makes the subject worth appreciating even if you never want to watch it yourself~

[@embodyingmysticalmac]

Wow! Couldn’t agree more. So well said!

[@blinkfilms1]

I adored this movie on a visceral level because it made me feel like a kid again. It had magical horses and singing magical girls and drama and intrigue. The plot was bad, the political commentary was forced and questionable at best, but it healed my inner child on a level I didn't know was possible so I'll always love it for that

[@pixystixwhore]

as a horse girl who’s also a fan of magic girls and musicals: i hold thi movie in a special place in my heart. i always cry because of that scene where elsa tames the nokk. saying that, i didn’t know about the sami influence. makes me sad how often companies fumble that sort of thing.

[@lilaboxx]

Hearing that 2019 is 4 years ago is is wild to me, I still remember that I cried in the movie theater

[@normanclatcher]

I'm lagging about two years behind it seems.

[@ursascorner4865]

I remember a discussion I had with my little sister about why this film was missing something. I believe it was the fact there was a missed potential of a story arc for Anna. I suspect that Anna's deleted first song was setting up her being patriotic to her country because that was all she ever has know since being stuck in the castle has as I assume made her knowledgeable about her kingdom. I feel as if her struggling with her newfound identity should've added more into her conflict of deciding what was the right choice.

[@lautaroroldanpizzorno7494]

I really appreciate the way you centered your criticisms around the real life implications for the Sami people. I came into this expecting another review all about how the "Fifth Spirit" stuff makes no sense and more about characterization and plot development (which I agree with) but those criticisms have all been made before so this was very refreshing and interesting.

[@Bahia_A]

Hello from tourist-season Rovaniemi (I'm from central Finland but have been working there for a year). Personally, I think that most small Finnish towns can offer way cozier and more "authentic" Christmas atmosphere than the manufactured tourist-trap that is the Santa Claus village.

[@chemistryguy]

Our daughter was still in hospice when we all went to see this at the theater. I can't properly explain the emotional gut punch we all felt upon hearing the Next Right Thing. Bleak, yes. But as raw and as real as we knew life could be. I didn't know Disney could be so brutally honest about grief. And then they took it all back. I found, and still find it, unforgivable. It isn't the first time a Disney character has been snatched back from death's door, but this time was different. Instead of giving a glimpse into true loss, real grief, we watched Disney preserve their intellectual property. If you can't tell, I'm still bitter about it. I did really enjoy your take on Frozen 2, especially shedding light on the Saami.

[@Doraemontostito]

thank you for keeping the lindsay ellis spirit alive and well on youtube youve filled a void in all our lives :)

[@slavkovalsky1671]

yes, that, and semiannual releases by Jenny N. Which are very different, sure, and yet, similar bells get rung...

[@byrnetdown6076]

@@slavkovalsky1671 jenny is the only reason I sleep half the time

[@CanelaAguila]

Lindsay is still alive on nebula too, on addition to these great new finds!

[@mischr13]

@@byrnetdown6076 do you watch her videos to fall asleep too? 😅 I have a playlist titled "sleep" that has a bunch of her videos

[@thehillisalive]

Honestly she's fully bringing the Lindsay vibes, even with the red lip!

[@CheeseDaddy19]

I recently discovered this channel and I gotta say Hoots, it’s great. I don’t know how you don’t have a million subscribers. Your production value is top of the charts and your content is stellar. I’ve been bingeing your stuff over the past few days and it’s all been A+. Thank you

[@The_Reaper_666]

Will I watch a Disney film? NO. Will I watch an hour long breakdown of a Disney Princess film sequel I didn't know existed until right now?? YES!

[@witchivy5905]

I appreciate how you said white passing for the American audience. As I myself am half Puerto Rican but I'm pretty fair skinned ,dark thick coarse hair; yada yada. To most Americans they just think I'm white. The only people who notice are also mix or, ethnic or, people from outside the US who have seen more cultures (which I love) but on the flip side it's terrible how much racist Bs gets told to me as if I'd agree. I quickly put said racist in their place and I'm located in the Midwest for context.

[@roslynys]

i remember hearing about the saami after the first frozen movie, but i really appreciate the lengths you went to educate yourself and present the background around saami culture. thank you for your hard work!! as someone who didnt know anything about them, it means a lot to me to know more now

[@hoodedcrows8966]

Great video, i think you might be one of my new favorite channels lol! But I noticed that at 29:40 you said that Pohjola is the land of the dead, but it's actually Tuonela! In finnish mythology Tuonela is the land of the dead and is located in the far north, and the far north is named as Pohjola, but they are different things

[@hootsyoutube]

Oh okay, maybe I misunderstood Niina!

[@Ametcitra]

I'm not Saami myself, but there's a high likelihood that at some point perhaps one of my great-grandparents were since part of my family comes from northern Sweden (although there's never been any mentions on Saami heritage nor have I done a DNA test so who really knows). I've been trying to educate myself more about matters such as these and I think it's so nice to see how you covered the subject! Sadly this is a part of history that is very rarely covered (or at least covered in-depth) in schools (at least my school didn't) and I think it's so important. Also I agree with your takes on the songs in the movie uwu

[@spectorofcomm]

Please don't stop. Don't ever stop doing this. Your work is not something that changes human history in a single moment, but your work makes many single moments that can change a single human

[@lemokemo5752]

I like that you said "indigenous of Sapmi" and not Scandinavia etc. Ugric (Samis and Finns) and North Germanic (Scandinavians) tribes entered the Fennoscandinavian peninsula during the same era. Finns and Samis are both Ugrics of the same historic migration.

[@sonye-jin6737]

Yes!!!

[@MannuNilsen]

25:30 Reminds me of that time I was in London in 2013 and almost had a freak-out sesh in the Disney store because of the Frozen soundtrack. Frozen was released in early December in the UK, and that was when I was there. And it was EVERYWHERE, I swear, they didn't celebrate Christmas that year, but opt to celebrate the Frozen premiere instead. I ended up watching it a few weeks later when it released home in Norway, and only then did I realize it was supposed to be based ON Norway...Nothing in the trailers or in the merch gave it away for me, It was all just too commercialized (like the costumes, for example, Elsa's Ice dress is just pure fantasy obviously, but all the others...I didn't realize that the patterns were supposed to be Rose painting/rosemaling, they were too simplified and too Adobe Illustrator-core, and the colors gave me Vapor-wave vibes, instead of Traditional Norwegian folk dress vibes..Like, my sister bought an Anna dress and I still couldn't connect the dots!) So when I walked into the Disney store I didn't expect to see anything that reminded me of Norwegian culture, nevermind my own Sami culture! So when I heard "Vuelie" play over the speakers I was flabbergasted! I was like: WTF? This is the song the church choir sang at my confirmation! I use to have this song on CD! My mom used to sing it! I have it downloaded on my phone!! HAVE I ACCIDENTALLY CONNECTED MY PHONE TO THE SPEAKERS!? AM I BEING TARGETED?!! WHAT IS HAPPENING!! I almost went up to the cashier to ask what the fudge cookie was going on, but then I remembered that I had social anxiety and just ran out and never went back instead...

[@rooenart1346]

"Well they are all wearing brown because its leather!" As if leather dying wasn't a very...prominent thing in many cultures and clearly even in their fictional once given their mothers scarf was deep red with colored thread....but yeah know....brown.

[@DrinzenDrawz]

Interesting to hear you talk about the sami people as a Norwegian person. We had a sami lecturer on Monday since it's the day of the sami people. She was actually a protester during the Alta dam incident. It's a nice coincidence getting this video recommended. You did a good job covering the subject :)

[@shayda_wolf]

18:38 Lost in the woods, wow. I took my daughter to go see this movie in theaters with my sister. My daughter was sitting in between us and we were enjoying the movie for the most part, but when Kristoff’s song came on my sister and I looked over my daughter’s head at each other and shared the exact same “wtf are we watching” expression. For real it really took us out of it.

[@clairepaffey1727]

My sister and I had the same response to that song. Like, we knew what they were going for but I don't know why it's in this film and it comes totally out of the blue and changes the tone in a really weird way. We just laughed in the theatre when it came on.

[@ThatDangDad]

This has been chillin' (!) in my Watch Later for five months and I finally watched it today. Wonderful video, I learned a lot. Thanks for doing all that research, it gave me Much To Think About

[@lovefromwonderland]

Frozen II really comes across as a movie that was just made because it had to be, not because there was a story to tell. Disney wanted to just shove something into movie theaters to make money. That’s why Frozen II turned out the way it did.

[@hongkongatonn]

The best thing frozen 2 ever did was introduce me to Aurora she is an AMAZING artist!

[@floralfancy7814]

I think that there wasn't a coherent plot, there were too many things going on, all they needed with a stripped back and simple and effective story, but they convoluted it, adding more doesn't always make things better. I wish they focused more on Anna's and Elsa's relationship, built on their bond together and how they complement each other in a crisis. It was not a bad movie, but the writing was lacklustre for what we waited and hoped for. Disney can do better. The song, Into the Unknown was a jam though and it was just nice to see the same characters again.

[@delecti]

It's a bit tangential to the main topic of the video, but one thing I appreciated about Frozen 2 is that it felt like it doubled-down on queer-coding Elsa. Let It Go felt like an "accepting yourself" queer anthem, and then Into the Unknown has her being seduced into further adventure by a mysterious female voice culminating in her magic turning rainbow colored, and Show Yourself felt like a "now we can *all* come out" anthem. It felt as close to queer representation from a major Disney protagonist as we're likely to get for a while.

[@sarahlaurent62]

Also giving everything up to move to a forest is so lesbian cottagecore of her

[@lordrefaiv]

Speaking of accepting a crumb of representation... :/

[@1Hawkears1]

@@lordrefaiv at least in some instances its a representation of how hard the artists actually pushed to get that through and not have it taken out - and not something meant to openly Market to queers instead. But I have no idea where that line is

[@lordrefaiv]

@@1Hawkears1 Yes, but neither of those impacts its nature as a crumb, nor those of us desperately seeking those crumbs anywhere they're hidden.

[@1Hawkears1]

@@lordrefaiv I don't know. It just made me a little happy throughout the film. I watched it once, and never really thought about it or talked about it until now. I think that's fine. I wouldn't say "disney do better" because they didn't *do* anything. Idk. I think something like the live action beauty and the beast is more of a crumb - this one is more of a feeling. In some ways it's worse/less, but for my personal experience it's better queer viewing. I wouldn't put it in a pile of gay movies by any stretch.

[@benjaminwaters241]

Frozen 2 is such a frustrating movie and I will never be free of it because my daughter is 4 and is basically growing up on it

[@StCrimson667]

I'm so glad someone else feels the way I do about Frozen II! For all its flaws, an attempt was made and it really is a movie that tried to say something important about colonization and what has to be done to make things right. It sucks that the movie was shoddy, it's obvious that the making of the film was not smooth and never really came together. A lot of the footage that they used in the trailers for the movie was actually TEST FOOTAGE because they literally didn't have enough animated to make the trailer, and I think that the topic and the story that they were trying to tell was just too big for two hours. I think that it would have been AMAZING as an animated series a la Tangled Adventures and I do sincerely hope that we get that, a Frozen series about Elsa working to help and protect the Northundra and Anna working to keep the two sides working together. I think that would be absolutely amazing and I think people would adore it too just like they adore Tangles Adventures!

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Totally agree... All the information Frozen 2 wanted to tell was IMPOSSIBLE to tell in 1h40min... A series would be totally better... And... I want yo believe everything is possible if you find a way... I mean if, we live in a world were things like the Snydercut exists... So once i had a wild dream of someone decanonizing the movie and remaking it as a series now with a Well crafted story and lore. It was a WIIIILD dream...

[@ArmchairEgyptology]

The second half of this was really good. Up next: the first half!

[@robertmkorte]

Thank you, I didn't watch Frozen 2, but now you got me interested in Saami culture and history. ❤

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Totally... The more i rewatch it... The more i hate it. It has a SOOOOO convoluted, incoherent story and the lore...MY GOD... It has more holes than a cheeze. And... I hate it. Because it has SO MUCH good ideas and concepts, just its like Disney worldview didn't allow it to embrace it... OH, and the lack of planning. Because somenthing i ALWAYS see is that, no matter what, Its like Frozen 2 was Forced to exist. I hate it for what it is and love it for what IT COULD BE... Its horrible.

[@SweSora]

As a forest sami myself, gotta say that the vuelie in the first movie wasn't a joik, it's a vuelie (similar but not the same, vuelie was a more southern and ume sami thing) I'm all for making us more visible, culture should not be exclusive but inclusive! However! I don't like the colonialist undertones both movies give off, in terms of making us seem like "the other" "the different" etc. And my grandmother was slapped on her hands if she spoke sami in school, and only about 20 people today, worldwide, speaks umesami as their first language. We're slowly taking back our cultural heritage but it is taking time. (learning the language, soon getting my kolt and official membership in the Samidiggi) Also...side-note. Huskies, the modern husky actually stems from scandinavia, but generally from the non-sami population.

[@davidburns-em8nb]

came for a frozen 2 review left with an in depth kowledge on modern Sápmi history

[@김민석-r9r5u]

I am so invested in your video and I was so sure after talking about the whole "castle falling" and your theory of Anna's mission actually being accomplished without interruption, you would bring up the artbook (and the portion of the documentary) where it really is shown that THAT was what was going to happen but that it indeed got cut by executives because it interfered with the construction of Arendelle castle in the disney parks. Not only that, but as time goes on and artists are finally able to release concepts and content they created for the movie, we get more and more information regarding the original story and how a lot of it was forced to be cut for one reason or another. There are a lot of leftover bits of information throughout the movie that end up connecting to each and every single deleted song, to every unused concept art. In short, Frozen II was really going to be amazing but executive meddling ended up absolutely wrecking the creative process over, and over again until they were left with 6 months to wrap up a tumultuous production.

[@meisferrari]

I’m someone who enjoyed Frozen 2 thoroughly during my first viewing back in 2019; I love that this film tries to do something unique, even if it ultimately falls short of that goal. That being said, I agree that the castle should have been destroyed. Every time I’ve talked about this movie, I’ve followed up my praises for the music with “…but Arendelle should have been destroyed at the end.” Also, thank you for shining light on the indigenous culture being portrayed by this movie; I always found it confusing that Anna and Elsa’s Northuldra ancestry didn’t have any real stake in the film for Anna and Elsa themselves, instead being used as a way to superficially join the Arendellian soldiers with the Northuldra by the end. If the Northuldran characters had stronger connections with Anna and Elsa, or really were given more character development at all, I think this movie could have gone from “something different” to “something extraordinary.”

[@Chikorita2Chante]

I enjoyed Frozen 2, but I enjoyed this video too. Your explanations, particularly when you shed further light on the Saami inspirations and such, are well written. Very well done. I'm just a regular Norwegian, so I can only imagine how validating it would feel to hear people talk about it. Two saami properties are coming out around this time, so it's all the more fitting. Not sure those will have English subs somewhere, but they're called "Ellos eatnu" and "Vi lover et helvete", if you feel curious.

[@Chikorita2Chante]

I did a little google and besides the movie and the series previously mentioned, there's another series coming out called "Heajastallan", which seems to be cheerful in mood. On top of that, two more series are being filmed right now. This is according to an article posted by Dagsvisen a mere 3 days ago. This article also mentions Frozen 2, implying it helped putting a spotlight on our need for more proper Saami media.

[@VonVikoGoat]

I remember how Frozen was HUGE here in Argentina. Because besides being a Disney movie it also had the protagonist from Violetta, a very popular Disney series at the time as the voice for the Let it Go song.

[@gagebrown8560]

One thing that should be considered in regards to the blending off those cultures, is that before the addition of Christianity into Scandinavia, norse beliefs and Sami beliefs had many similarities. In the Norse sagas, it references going to the Sami peoples in order to seek the spirits. So a blending of the cultures has good basis in history.

[@sworddragonsliege]

I was very disappointed when the castle didn't fall.

[@nabilahalshari7880]

The earlier draft version of Frozen is interesting, and I like Jenny Nicholson's take that Elsa was supposed to become queen to the Nothuldrans too, but you can understand why Disney would back away, given the optics of a white woman ending up being the queen of a tribe of natives.

[@jlldndjd]

The Sami aren’t any more indigenous than the Norwegians. They migrated west from Finland. Norwegian ancestry is a mix of western hunter gatherers, early European farmers and yamnaya steppe pastoralists, each of which having occupied the area that is now Norway for more than five thousands of years! The Sami are descended from Uralic speakers that didn’t enter Scandinavia until well after the ancestors of the Norse.

[@bacchiguu86]

This was a well-thought out, thoroughly researched video. A lot of us always felt icky about how Disney did the Sámi "influenced" Northuldra dirty, and now it feels even ickier. I'm really afraid Disney will just turn them into "we're just here to explain stuff to the heroes and f-off" characters like the trolls are, or just have them "move on out of the Forest" and excluded from future Frozen stuff. I would love to know more about Honeymaren and Ryder as characters. Also they had sooo many ideas for this movie and were in a rush which was made even worse by test-audience and executive meddling. The artbook confirmed your theory and so did a Frozen 2 magazine. If you're ever interested in the behind-the-scene chaos that went on, Schaffrillas Productions did a video about it.

[@MTay02]

I’m super late, but since Kristoff was Sami coded, he totally could’ve found his birth family with the Northuldra, and had a heartwarming reunion, plus it would’ve felt significantly less clunky than Anna and Elsa announcing their Northuldran heritage.

[@LucynthiaRitonia]

you never feel that sense of urgency with this film cause you know it is all gonna work out anyway.

[@oomomow6621]

Frozen 2 surprisingly quickly became one of my favourite Disney animated movies. It is such SUCH a hot mess. Even as you're watching it you can TELL it had a messy development, but this movie has some weirdly complex and deep themes for a Disney movie. To the point I can totally get why test audience kids found it too much. Even if parts of it don't quite work (some of the world aspects they carry over from Frozen 1, all the new Frozen 2 characters that were dropped mid-script, the castle town surviving, etc.) it feels so... earnest! Far more than you'd expect from a Disney sequel. It helps that its overall absolutely beautiful, and has some BANGER tracks. Even its more meh tracks I'll still listen to (besides this movie's Olaf track). I love me my messy half baked media it seems.

[@roshanfey]

this is pretty much how i feel about it too! even though i will never shy away from everything there is to critique about the frozen franchise, i'm just glad that elsa has a personality this time round even if her actions are still infuriating LOL

[@meghanc8887]

I thought I was the only one SOOO confused. I watched the making documentary of frozen made my the people who made it. They said the biggest criticism they got during the showing (before they make final changes and finalize the script), was that the plot /lore was confusing and that it wasn't funny and they wanted more from Olaf (basically the first main 2 things you named that you didn't like when you watched). They also admitted that even years into making it, they weren't sure what the voices were supposed to be telling Elsa and how that all came together. They didn't know if they wanted the river to having meaning, or something else. Idk basically they figured out incredibly late into it what the main point was and how it all weaved together. That may be why it seems like there's so many peices but that it doesn't flow cohesively ... because they made most of it with peices before they even had the very specific main point decided. They only clarified it more when they had a lot of bad feedback. And they had to add in some last minute "jokes" into an already pretty well made production. The frozen 2 documentary is on Disney plus and is pretty interesting and helps give a better picture of why the story turned out that way. However they don't mentioned ANYTHING about native lore or the true background behind the cultural aspects of the peiice !! That was strange they didn't tribute any of that thought process in the official documentary of the peice. Makes me feel like they're avoiding it ..

[@dindrane1]

This was a great video, hoots. You shared some of my criticisms and gave me more information to think about. Thank you so much for your coverage on important topics.

[@Ziggi_onthe_RISE]

This was invaluably eye opening! I had no idea of the indigenous tones because it was fully done as depictive, with no outright reference or true representation. It kinda “ruins” my perspective of the film, but in a good way. In a “I learned something, and it took involving something i was fond of to teach a valuable lesson,” kind of way, so I appreciate you for doing it. Thanks Hoots 🦉 ❤

[@user-xsn5ozskwg]

Really liked this video; Frozen didn't really resonate with me and I never had an interest in seeing the sequel, but it's nice hearing the mixed thoughts about it from someone who is passionate about the story and characters. Also, the kulning/Adult Swim interstitial joke was very good.

[@BlueFlower___]

I live in Finnish Lapland and have a bit of saami from my father's side. Seeing the way they portrayed these charicatures of saami was a bit weird. I was disappointed that they all had grey, dull clothes when a big part of saami culture are the red/blue outfits. Great video!

[@rayn0577]

After seeing the deleted prologue with Anna and Elsa’s parents, I’m definitely disappointed with the version of the movie we got. There are still parts of it that I love (The Next Right Thing, Anna becoming queen) but I can’t help but feel that we missed out on something really special.

[@CosmicPotato]

20:25 That is surprising. Personally it is my favorite song from the film, but from other comments I've seen on YT and social media everyone likes Into The Unknown or Lost in the Woods more, which boggles my mind. Show Yourself is probably the best song from either movie, IMO.

[@roshanfey]

i completely agree! very surprised at how much love lost in the woods receives. show yourself is definitely the best song from either film and i actually really like some things never change too!

[@dracorex426]

Why did the Arendellians want the dam anyway? Irrigation? A reservoir? Flood control? The reservoir was full so probably not flood control, and all the way up there it doesn't seem useful for irrigation. Unless they were intending conquest, but then it seems like they should have done that before beginning construction.

[@joosoo]

There's a lot I wish Frozen 2 had gotten right. Unfortunately, I still hate it because it gives crumbs and wastes its potential. And I refuse to give the corporate mouse any brownie points for attempting and failing to get things right repeatedly. If it were from a smaller studio or more earnest (and not a horrific trainwreck of a rushed production), I'd be willing to appreciate its potential.

[@mikoevelynn111]

18:53 Water has memory. That is the theme the movie wants to show. We don't know too much about Kristoff's past. And it is established he worked as an ice harvester. ICE! I just thought of this from watching, but why in the world couldn't Kristoff have had an arc with finding out his past? Sure, maybe other plot points and stories might not work as they are in the film, BUT THAT WOULD GIVE Kristoff something better than proposal guy And watching the rest of the video, something like this for Kristoff's role seems like it would improve the arc he has

[@zoeb3573]

My only real issue with "Elsa and Anna are super white compared to the natives" thing is that their mother's complexion changes from slightly darker when she's a kid to noticeably whiter when she's older, to the point when the trailer calme out and people started to theorize the little kids were the King and Queen as children, people pointed out how the girl couldn't be the Queen because of their differences in skin tones etc. It makes it look like she doesn't have darker skin, she just... Was tan as a kid and then spent a lot of time inside as an adult. I know they had definitely not planned for her to be Sami when they made the first movie and planned her looks, but like you said, the Sami are a diverse group, so her being part of the slightly whiter kind as a kid would have made sense, rather than changing her looks and making Elsa and Anna stand out so badly. (and yes I do understand it's possible for a darker skinned person to have a very white baby with a white partner, but in the movie, it comes out as weird and very clearly not planned)

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

I love the Anna love here. She’s so underrated and for the time I really didn’t understand it. She was like JLaw at the time. A quirky girl. And then people started hating her and calling her annoying. Tbh I always thought those people were very “pick me” for liking Elsa more. I can see how some people might think Anna is kind of “pick me”. But it’s clear how they’ve matured here… and I’m similar to you. I didn’t like Frozen 2 at first. I didn’t think Anna deserved to be queen. But looking at it from a different perspective, she’s trying to right a wrong. Of course she’s a strong and ethical leader. Get my girl a crown!

[@tomatenmagnet]

Never watched frozen 2. Still exited about your take on it.

[@SillyVixen420]

I haven't even seen Frozen II yet and I almost teared up at you recap, maybe I should watch it now.

[@JinxSanity]

Here after the underwhelming announcement of Frozen 3. At one time I would had been excited for Frozen 3... that is until I saw Frozen 2 and felt like the biggest cinematic disappointment because I had been hype for 6 years only to see a safe and boring plot, the elements being not characters but just Happy meals and Elsa and Anna leaving each other because it was the trend with Disney films at the time. I still remember the disappointing drive back home that night feeling like I should be happy but feeling utterly upset and letdown, which I haven't experienced with a movie in years. I can't really feel at all excited for F3 because it just feels like a excuse to make more cash rather than tell a evolving story, especially because the Elements could had easily been new people like Elsa and members of the tribe who could either accept Elsa or choose not to trust her due to their history creating some conflict, as oppose to the forgettable obstacles and new toys they were instead (those Rock giants are nothing more than lazy enlarged Marshmallows). And let's not even mention the frustrating fans who keep insisting that Elsa died and became a spirit just so they can ship her with Jack Frost, which the entire ship strikes me as creepy/pedophilia with Jack being both way older than Elsa and somehow looking like a prepubescent boy.

[@djmutt2000]

Idina Menzel is the highest sound frequency known to humans

[@annalivingtv]

I’m indigenous American and I feel that this is a constant issue for Disney and children’s media-that they always want so badly to incorporate some indigenous culture, but despite all the input they get, they always manage to disservice it. The main reason they usually want to use the cultures in the first place is because of the stereotype of native cultures being “mystical and mysterious” or in some way magical which rubs me the wrong way. Idk the issue is that children’s media is held under a monopoly by Disney so it’s not even possible for a truly indigenous group to make their own representation, we always have to go through white executives

[@bisapien123]

I don’t understand why Elsa and Anna have to lose their home in order for it to be thematically satisfying. I think it would send the false message that we need to hurt hegemonic people in order to help the disempowered. I don’t think it’s a zero sum game. We should be making things better for everyone, admittedly with a primary focus on those for whom things are disproportionately bad. I don’t think we have to destroy the houses people currently live in to do that.

[@estelar95]

I feel the same, although having a conclusion with both sides building a new kingdom together would set a better message, because that does show the characters trying to improve things for everyone.

[@roiitzkovich4545]

@@estelar95 That's why the spirits freed Elsa from Ahtohallan and the water horse gave her a ride to Arendelle to stop the wave. The spirits helped the Arendellians, just like how Anna saved the forest. The 2 sides helped each other.

[@estelar95]

@@roiitzkovich4545 Oh yes, but what I meant is having the kingdom be destroyed and THEN rebuilt by the two sides. I feel like it's a much more impactful visual when they are building a whole new home together from scratch.

[@ruliak]

Can I just say I have becomed totally captivated by your and Biz Barclay's content. Your thoughtful videos have been so enriching. Thank you and I am so excited to watch this!!

[@goblincat]

As a Finn, the lyrics don't imply that he "fucks reindeer", here's a rough translation: "There's something topsy-turvy about him, he's a little queer. All he does is shove ice and like reindeer, he may not be quite "there"." I have not watched the movie, I don't know the original lyrics, but the Finnish version of that part doesn't have any innuendos. It's just offensive in a different way 🙃

[@danielmalinen6337]

In Finnish, the idiom "terveen kirjoissa" (not cconsidered as sane) usually means a person's behavior from another's point of view when it deviates from the prevailing norm of the prevailing community, i.e. the person is considered weird and eccentric but harmless. It is of the same family as the idioms "ei ole kaikki ruuvit tallessa" (doesn't have all the screws in the places) or "ei ole kaikki Muumit laaksossa" (doesn't have all the Moomins in the valley) or "Pelle Peloton" (is Gyro Gearloose) and they are commonly used in Finland because people don't want to say directly to someone if they think that this one is weird and eccentric person in their opinion and they want to express it in much friendlier way.

[@courtneybermack]

Let It Go is a great song, especially if you're not surrounded by children obsessed with it. It landed in ways that were significant for my mental health at the time. Next Right Thing is not a great song, but the moment, and how Anna found the way to go on, are even more relevant for me. Everything has gone to shit? Focus on taking the next step, and the next. If a step's too hard, just take a breath... And if that doesn't work, you've got other problems. Seriously, though, I never expected to see my most essential coping skill illustrated so perfectly and appropriately in a Disney movie.