FSD Supervised v12.5.5 End to End on Highway and City Streets in Cybertruck

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Chuck Cook

Chuck Cook

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@rodrigosarcinelli
@rodrigosarcinelli 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos and comments!!! Thanks 🙏🏻 Ps; stop worrying about the “HDMI” output… this is just fine 👍
@Danly_W
@Danly_W 3 ай бұрын
Chuck the truck at the 23:51 mark probably wasn't trying to roll coal at you because the blue Jeep in front of it was slowing down to to get into the left turn lane. He was probably accelerating back up the the speed limit.
@retiredbitjuggler3471
@retiredbitjuggler3471 3 ай бұрын
Chuck - your comments to CT FSD newbie’s is point on. I am a Tesla, truck, and FSD NEWBIE and am absorbing the carrier launch experience into the future. Wow! I’m a long time follower and really appreciate your test drives and your insightful narratives. I just want to say that I have never experienced anything like the CT and adding FSD has been other worldly (not perfect, but extremely gratifying). Before retiring 6 years ago, I was deeply immersed in the high tech IT world (both on the hardware and software side) for a very major aerospace company. All of that experience has not prepared me for this jump in technology. I feel like I am in Michael J. Fox’s skin in “Back to the future!” 😂😂😂😂😂 Oh, and the fact that you are a beekeeper touches old memories of when my dad and I had a few colonies 5 decades ago - after all these years I still can’t part with the old hand crank barrel extractor I have taking up space in my garage. Thanks for all you do - it is very much appreciated! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@spectre2302
@spectre2302 3 ай бұрын
At 6:19 it seems to me that it just got into the wrong lane and then decided at the last second to change back when it wasnt safe to do so, if you see the nav is telling it that it should be in the right off-ramp but it just went into the left one for no reason so Id say its a navigation related issue or its just a situation where the car should rely on vision rather than just map data.
@alexanderbeck5998
@alexanderbeck5998 3 ай бұрын
Camera setup looking good, the best yet not grainy at all 👍
@tommornini2470
@tommornini2470 3 ай бұрын
Great message for new FSD and truck users.
@ChuckCook
@ChuckCook 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@MikeRadioNY
@MikeRadioNY 3 ай бұрын
Hey Chuck… The IR illuminators are on all newer Teslas. And they are on and even stronger with BlueCruise and SuperCruise vehicles for their system to keep an eye on your eyes.
@tommornini2470
@tommornini2470 3 ай бұрын
@@ChuckCook I do feel the need to point out a potential minor, no doubt unintended, hypocrisy however. You warn new FSD and/or pickup truck drivers to operate the system as Tesla recommends. I believe that current builds still explicitly recommend that drivers keep hands on the wheel during operation, and you don’t do that.
@WilliamNovak-y6o
@WilliamNovak-y6o 3 ай бұрын
Another Good video Chuck. As far as the lane shift goes. It looked to me like FSD may have seen that white line and believed there to be another lane there to the right, attempting to get into that specific lane. And I think you're right about FSD changing lanes for an upcoming turn early enough is more about our comfort. My MY routinely waits longer than I would like to get into the proper lane for an upcoming turn. But I continue to let do it's thing and somehow it's always squeezed in. Actually it's amazing. Keep up the great work.
@davec2211
@davec2211 3 ай бұрын
Those Bees couldn't be in safer hands! 🐝🐝 Great advice Chuck - this version and the Cybertruck are a superb combination!
@seant1325
@seant1325 3 ай бұрын
Hi Chuck, thanks for the videos, stay safe out there. The lane change @6:11 does not make sense, 1) it crosses into the split for the left offramp which results in a nav route change clearly viable @6:26 and 2) it crosses a solid line. At the split @6:18 it was almost as if it was trying to go back to the right offramp.
@MCAN
@MCAN 3 ай бұрын
That same lane drift at 6:20 happened to Omar (Whole Mars Catalog) during his first highway test. There’s definitely a bug in the build.
@MrTechfreak95
@MrTechfreak95 3 ай бұрын
17:01 would be fun Episode, "Where does my Cybertruck want to go" :D
@tobiasforsberg2497
@tobiasforsberg2497 3 ай бұрын
Wow, such a great video (again!). And i would argue that its more of a feature than a bug that you have to tap the accelerator to start a drive. A bit of extra safety
@diamond_h0us
@diamond_h0us 3 ай бұрын
Chuck, the other cars have IR illuminators too. My wife’s Model 3 illuminators work but the ones in my 2024 MY are broken so I can’t use FSD at night at all.
@ChuckCook
@ChuckCook 3 ай бұрын
Good to know, I never noticed before.
@MikeRadioNY
@MikeRadioNY 3 ай бұрын
You can make a service request and get the camera replaced if you actually have the IR sensors in the car. I do not and they would not make a change to my camera as they said it was not possible right now. Read my other post about workarounds, which makes things easy.
@traetenstockman3177
@traetenstockman3177 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 M3LR so it doesn’t have IR but I founding having the display on light mode, even the lowest setting, will illuminate your face enough for the camera to be happy and let you use vision based monitoring.
@MikeRadioNY
@MikeRadioNY 3 ай бұрын
@@traetenstockman3177 For sure… I just don’t like light mode at night because I like my cabin dark. And I’m glad that you can still keep it on dark mode and keep the brightness at 75% or more and it will still illuminate your face enough, which is awesome. At 70% I wasn’t getting into work. Just FYI I do have tinted side windows at 20% so it is kind of dark inside my cabin but regardless there’s no light outside of it when I was testing anyway.
@djbowler3333
@djbowler3333 3 ай бұрын
Great job, Chuck. Thank you.
@jack-hn4ey
@jack-hn4ey 3 ай бұрын
I love the way you explain your videos!
@wizard-469
@wizard-469 3 ай бұрын
About the IR illuminators, it's exactly what commented on your previous video. 😅
@Tesla_Copilot
@Tesla_Copilot 3 ай бұрын
Looks great Chuck!
@ChuckCook
@ChuckCook 3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jjy1463
@jjy1463 3 ай бұрын
Chuck, it appears to me the FSD once again "jammed" you and waited way too long to make the right-hand ramp(@6:17). It crossed the solid white line in a last-ditch (dangerous) attempt to make that exit.
@CJ-TRides
@CJ-TRides 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for another amazing CyberTruck Version 12.5.5 video with commentary.😊
@Jefemcownage
@Jefemcownage 3 ай бұрын
speed is the new auto-wipers
@karljunk6373
@karljunk6373 3 ай бұрын
At 6:18 FSD was engaged when it drifted off the lane, and you disengaged it by steering back to the lane. Well done by you.
@agoatmannameddesire8856
@agoatmannameddesire8856 3 ай бұрын
Your demeanor when getting coal-rolled is admirable!
@tubbums32
@tubbums32 3 ай бұрын
Camera display actually looks great. For sure a great solution until HDMI-out is possible, and a great alternative if it ends up being unfeasible
@OldDirtyRobot
@OldDirtyRobot 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the safety note upfront.
@LarryASilva
@LarryASilva 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Chuck. While I am grateful to the magic makers at Tesla for finally getting FSD to our CTs ... we do indeed have to maintain vigilant eyes on the road ahead... albeit with less stressed eyes ... with this 1st FSD CT version. We know that incremental FSD improvement updates will continue to install periodically. What has my cautious imagination working overtime ... is the potential for some celebrity CT owner to make FSD a BIG BAD in our popular culture ... by NOT catching an FSD driving judgement error in time and causing a bad collision. One can imagine the impact of various governmental investigations recommending various prohibitions on any genre of 'self driving' software. All of us CT and other Tesla model owners, famous or not ... just gotta BE CAREFUL OUT THERE as SFSD morphs towards its true driverless update.
@SpaceTravel1776
@SpaceTravel1776 3 ай бұрын
We’re in the end game now, baby!
@Eudamonia-123
@Eudamonia-123 3 ай бұрын
Love having 12.5.5! I live in rural area, have had several disengagements. Left hand turns are too tight, and truck randomly stops while making right turns (doesn’t complete turn 🤷‍♂️). I would rather have a sketchy FSD than non at all 😊. I am confident that the AI team will fix these in the next few dot updates.
@Benedict-01
@Benedict-01 3 ай бұрын
Lanedrift 06:20: I noticed also in the previous video that the CT does not honor solid lines (on the highway) - Model Y does that and therefore missed one exit. Critical. Has to be fixed.
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 3 ай бұрын
Rules for solid white lanes vary by state. In California, there's no prohibition against crossing solid white lines.
@Benedict-01
@Benedict-01 3 ай бұрын
@@BigBen621 California rules are total nonsense - need to be changed and adapt solid/broken-line-logic. Autonomous vehicles should not cross a solid line and because of that crash into a median.
@AlternativPerspectiv
@AlternativPerspectiv 3 ай бұрын
chomp chomp chomp chomp nyeeeeeeeah what's up CHUCK!
@davidwebb2337
@davidwebb2337 3 ай бұрын
Yeomans duty! Thank you.
@NaughtyGoatFarm
@NaughtyGoatFarm 3 ай бұрын
Tesla we need this released in Australia!
@elvinthalund5193
@elvinthalund5193 3 ай бұрын
Chuck, I agree that it was likely map data causing the lane drift issue. The map data does not have layers/floors today, which could confuse FSD. I have had the issue in ASS where I'm trying to have the car come to me in the above parking lot, but the car navigates to the same point below me. So maps needs 3D understanding to be more precise, which could include speed limit differences.
@freddydad1
@freddydad1 3 ай бұрын
Great vid..
@3s843a
@3s843a 3 ай бұрын
really cool horse youre driving
@genelane2243
@genelane2243 3 ай бұрын
Where blind traffic lights (like Chuck's at 24 min) exist where I live, there are warning flashers to prepare you. The warning light starts flashing yellow about 5 secs before the traffic light you can't see turns yellow. Florida needs to put one in at Chuck's location.
@MikeRadioNY
@MikeRadioNY 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 model 3 and it does not have IR sensors like newer cars This being said, on the highway when there’s cars coming in the other direction at night, there’s enough illumination that things are fine with vision monitor… however if you are on a smaller road and there’s not a lot of traffic coming from the other way and it’s dark, you’re gonna lose your vision monitor. There are several fixes and one of them I find to be the least intrusive to my daily routine. You can open the mirror light on the passenger sunvisor to get light from there, you can turn on the cabin light, which would probably be distracting to you and other drivers, or you could change your screen to light mode. That may work for some people however I still appreciate dark mode at night. I like my cabin dark as possible so the best work around which I have found, is take your screen on dark mode , turn off auto dimming and change it to 75% brightness or more. That will give you enough illumination that you shouldn’t have the vision monitoring go off. It’s not the best workaround, but it does work. And is least intrusive into most people‘s routine. I already tried to get Tesla to put a new IR camera in my car however they said it’s not compatible and at this point it’s probably just too hard to do as it seems the IR cameras do have another wire that my camera doesn’t seem to be equipped with when you look at the parts on the Tesla website. Please give us a thumbs up if it helps you because it took me a while of testing to get this done to figure this out because I do drive at night on dark interstates or dark 2 lane roads and definitely want to keep vision monitoring active. It’s a good thing. It’s totally not a wash… that would just be really bad for so many cars that don’t have the infrared. I do think at some point they may offer some kid of a retrofit possibly but that time is it now. And there is a possibility as the autonomous level of the car, progresses, vision, monitoring, and any monitoring may be not necessary one day.
@diamond_h0us
@diamond_h0us 3 ай бұрын
That’s weird. My wife’s M3 is 2023 and it has the IR illuminators. If you plug in your car info on Tesla’s part catalog it doesn’t give you the module with illuminators?
@spiritusinfinitus
@spiritusinfinitus 3 ай бұрын
Nice!
@brucec954
@brucec954 3 ай бұрын
So how about a 2 lane 55mph highway that goes down to a 35mph area in a small town. Previously, I would get to a "35mph Ahead" sign and it would keep going 55 until it got to the actual 35mph sign and then brake heavily to get to 35mph. Not comfortable or efficient and for a ways you will be speeding which can get you a ticket. Also school zones.
@D0li0
@D0li0 3 ай бұрын
At 4:50 my Lightning definitely had a pair of IR LEDs and receivers (I am assuming it used IR retna reflection between the two) as blocking either the A pillar IR or the center console IR would cause it to nag to pay attention. So both appear to have been required... I think I have a test of this in one of my Lightning Blue Cruises videos...
@allieflounder5764
@allieflounder5764 3 ай бұрын
it thought it was another lane as it widened out. It used to do this to me at a certain section of parking spots. It’s a regression.
@mikeyc8139
@mikeyc8139 3 ай бұрын
My 2024 Model 3 Performance has the IR illuminators so I presumed it's a HW4 thing. Might want to check your HW4 Model Y. If you meant other brands, I know GM's Super Cruise has them (in the steering wheel). P.S. Camera setup looks great. I wouldn't even bother with the HDMI hack.
@garrymullins
@garrymullins 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I think he's focusing on it because he likes to flex the system he rigged up. Rightfully so, it's a system worthy of flexing over. I had no idea that's how he was getting that telemetry data. Very cool hack. Consider me impressed.
@spleck615
@spleck615 3 ай бұрын
At 6:15 if Chuck wasn’t paying attention we might not have a Chuck :( It created a lane that didn’t exist and it may have just been in the shoulder area, but that was a concrete crash barrier that teslas have hit before. 😢
@darwinboor1300
@darwinboor1300 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Chuck. Great camera views until the aftermarket techology adapts to the cybertruck. I would not expect the bumper camera to be included in the initial issue of FSD for the cybertruck. When it is included, it will extend the internal rendered 3D/4D FSD maps. At this time, FSD for the cybertruck is probably based upon regerative datasets created by the Tesla Training System 2.0 for the cybertruck. They would be generated from existing Model 3 and Y datasets. Those datasets do not have the extended mapping provided by the bumper camera. I liked your discussion of nearly up-to-date real-world geomapping (U2D RWG). When available nearly U2D RWG could help solve many FSD issues including mapping lane routing including right and left turn only lanes and no U turn locations, double yellow line barriers, HOV entry and exit zones, school zones, and no turn on red lanes. It could even be used to create exit lane change zones based upon traffic conditions. Be ready for a deluge of new and updated real world AI applications at We Robot. Wish we could there with you. 😎
@gregm1855
@gregm1855 3 ай бұрын
At about the 15:00 mark I think the car might not want to do the right on red and block the cross walk? Could be wrong just trying to find it an out haha
@tsd4609
@tsd4609 3 ай бұрын
Google maps has some errors in lanes, i notice it in my S where it moves over a lane early on but doesn’t need to . Following car route results in going north on exit vs going south via a ramp from freeway
@mikemulrooney4824
@mikemulrooney4824 3 ай бұрын
Supervising the FSD and the size of the truck sure needs your full attention. I have a Ram and I need to be more aware of space than in the Civic. Here in NZ the Model Y long range AWD is $76,000. Kinda hoping the "Model2" will be a thing and looks OK at a price like $50,000 or so.
@tomyboy697
@tomyboy697 3 ай бұрын
How does WayMo deal with emergency vehicles?
@mikemulrooney4824
@mikemulrooney4824 3 ай бұрын
Good vid
@feedvid
@feedvid 3 ай бұрын
Go with the flow of traffic is the smart safe choice even if everyone is speeding. Do not be a boulder in the stream.
@AlexanderHuzar
@AlexanderHuzar 3 ай бұрын
11:00 into the video - As a technical person, I actually prefer the older FSD developer display with the camera feed and overlayed boxes around world objects and metrics like %probability of "blinded" and "rain" and things like that. I feel like the current UI might be great for your average lay person, but for someone like myself it just hides too much. Not sure if it's because I played Eve Online a while back so I'm used to UI "clutter" and can easily make sense of it, to me - the boxes are a confirmation that the computer is 100% seeing something rather than it being an unknown. I also very much work with % of probability with everything in life so not having that available leads to a hair-raising adrenaline-inducing ride at times with FSD.
@bigdougscommentary5719
@bigdougscommentary5719 3 ай бұрын
One other warning: Don’t expect it to do EVERYTHING.
@sudeeptaghosh
@sudeeptaghosh 3 ай бұрын
💯
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen 3 ай бұрын
I'm assuming training data was mainly gathered from the fleet of cybertrucks which is a reason why it wasn't available at launch. they might also have transposed the car training data with some rough perspective transformation to match the camera positions with maybe some considerations for the vehicle size. Taking from Model X might be a fairly close analog. Maybe throwing a ton of data in the initial training and limit to cybertruck data for fine tuning.. maybe. You can to some extent use simulations but the nuances of reality are just easier to get from real video. Curious drift it did. Those stripe triangles are apparently called gores. old word for triangle plot of land.
@dhui777
@dhui777 3 ай бұрын
Excellent driving.
@anandamroy4727
@anandamroy4727 3 ай бұрын
@6:18 that's a BMW move. It seems Tesla is training FSD using BMW driver's driving habit. Jokes apart, FSD was on wrong lane and tried to follow map when it was too late.
@MasterFX2000
@MasterFX2000 3 ай бұрын
Hi Chuck, is it just the video or are the car-models moving way more smoother than on your Model Y? It's like 15 fps vs 30fps the car-models are moving!?
@richardgomez1096
@richardgomez1096 3 ай бұрын
Hey Chuck, love all the videos. I have a question about FSD and regenerative breaking. When either is activated does the vehicle show the break lights when slowing down? I encountered a Tesla vehicle today that kept slowing infront of me quite a bit but the break lights never lit up unless at a stop light. Hopefully you see my message 😊
@danielthomson8341
@danielthomson8341 3 ай бұрын
It will illuminate the brake lights if the car is slowing down at a rate above some threshold, whether from human input or FSD. For example, (using made up numbers) if the car is slowing down more than 5 MPH per second, it will illuminate the brake lights. At least that's how it used to work, there's always the possibility that a bug was introduced at some point.
@richardgomez1096
@richardgomez1096 3 ай бұрын
@@danielthomson8341 oh interesting, thanks that's good to know
@MrSnicol
@MrSnicol 3 ай бұрын
Don’t forget to put a hole in the bag so the 🐝 can breath. 😉
@Mpr47276
@Mpr47276 3 ай бұрын
Lane selection and lane staging for up upcoming turns or exits has regressed in v12.5.4.
@SmithBensen
@SmithBensen 3 ай бұрын
As an Australian I just can’t believe that there can be a 50mph zone and most people are doing 70mph. Maybe part reason the auto deaths per capita are SO much higher in USA (12.8 per 100,000 vs 4.8 in Australia)? Over here, that wd be the equivalent of doing over 110kmh in an 80kmh zone. You’d be almost certain to get caught by either a speed camera or a cop with a radar, and get a whopping great fine. I wd think if/when FSD is applied here, the regulators will apply a strict speed limit rule ie if the speed limit is 80kph, FSD cannot exceed 80kph. Equivalent to the “NTSA stop”. I’ve had tickets here for doing 66kmh in a 60 zone, 110kmh in a 100 zone, and I’ve been ticketed for a “rolling stop” at a stop sign.
@adrianodiblasio2934
@adrianodiblasio2934 3 ай бұрын
A Cyber right is the correct solution.
@WillCloutman
@WillCloutman 3 ай бұрын
Does the older version switch stacks on the onramp? I nearly had a very bad crash yesterday because fsd wouldn’t change speed when trying to merge. I was coming to the end of the onramp and looks like it would have side-swiped the car next to me if I didn’t take control, SLOW DOWN and merge into empty space.
@richardvivian3665
@richardvivian3665 3 ай бұрын
Lane changing decisions seem to be the biggest issue. It shouldn’t be hard for the system to move over sooner for less stressful driving. Its weird they haven’t fixed that. In heavy traffic I’ll look to move sometimes 2-3 km’s from the off ramp as soon as an easy gap is available. Just common sense
@JeffWusch
@JeffWusch 3 ай бұрын
Engaging FSD without a destination, is allowing the onboard AI to express it's own intention and will..Human behavior?
@akaFlaw
@akaFlaw 3 ай бұрын
The Wh/mi seems completely wrong during this entire video
@tomyboy697
@tomyboy697 3 ай бұрын
Has anyone been noticing on 12.5.4 while traveling and the car tries to stop at a green light? This happens to me about 20% of the time when going through green lights Hardware 3 model 3
@Mpr47276
@Mpr47276 3 ай бұрын
I’ve at least noticed annoying Phantom breaking in that scenario, but whether it was gonna stop or not, I’m not certain
@fedderd
@fedderd 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Same here. 12.5.4 on 2024 Model 3 (HW4). Happened several times; but I always press the accelerator to get moving, so don’t know if it would come to a complete stop or not. Have also experienced phantom breaking, but not at green lights, twice with this version. And my major complaint on two-lane 55 mph roads is speed management; constantly losing speed. But that’s existed in previous releases for a long time. If these issues are not fixed before winter I will most likely cancel my FSD subscription for at least a few months, until I hear that Tesla has addressed them successfully.
@brianp8384
@brianp8384 3 ай бұрын
HW3 MY I have noticed some phantom braking but not actually stopping.
@leesanghong80
@leesanghong80 3 ай бұрын
dj2a
@01ananto
@01ananto 3 ай бұрын
First of all your video never looks high-quality, I prefer wholemars quality. You have very bad camera resolution.
@amerb313
@amerb313 3 ай бұрын
Why doesn't the lights on the rearview mirror on mine come on and flash
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