FSLabs Basics: Creating Pilot Waypoints in the MCDU

[@user-kh7en3ft1r]

Just want you to know that your old yet excellent video is still helping people out. I am watching this video and learn a lot (in 2022 Jan).

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much for your comment. I really appreciate that. I wish you happy landings 👍🏼

[@tm8473]

INteresting as usual. Prescribed tracks are not stored in the database because they are intended to be flown visually, but there are many other cases where custom waypoints come into a huge help. thanks

[@ola.ljungqvist1966]

Wow. I've said it before, and I will say it again. You are the next level of Flight Sim tutorials. Absolutely fantastic :)

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much for your kind words!

[@noel0004]

Thanks a lot, much appreciated! I’ve already said this once in another video but your tutorials are the only ones that have got me to learn the A320, and i just wanna thank you for that!

[@Blackbox711]

Hey Omni. Thank you very much for taking the time to send me your feedback. I very much appreciate that. Happy Landings 👍🏼✈️

[@noel0004]

@@Blackbox711 You too! Gonna do this approach tomorrow :)

[@noel0004]

@@Blackbox711 I just did this approach with your help and god was it fun! Thank you so much again, BB!!

[@rentasad]

Super Video - das habe ich mich in dem Jahr mit meinem FSLabs schon öfters gefragt, wie ich einen Wegpunkt in Beziehung zu einem anderen definieren kann. Danke Dir mal wieder :-)

[@Blackbox711]

Vielen Dank Matthias!

[@tommasopoletto1324]

amazing tecnique, finally someone who's not just playing around with the fslabs! you just gained a sub

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much 👍🏼

[@MagyarMatt]

Great tutorial thanks. Been wondering how to set up an approach like that.

[@Blackbox711]

Glad you enjoyed the video

[@Breenild]

Very nice video again! And Dubrovnik is always a pleasure!

[@swapnilkapadia]

professionalism as usual!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much!

[@swapnilkapadia]

Blackbox711 what's your take on aerosoft A319 vs Fslabs A319 in terms of flight dynamics? Aerosoft seems to be very nimble compared to Fslabs which is more stable while hand flying. Can you possibly make a comparison video of which is more realistic?

[@Blackbox711]

I am aware that people are keen on hearing my thoughts on the Aerosoft A319. I have tried the Aerosoft A319 and have to say that it is a good addon for beginners. The flight dynamics are indeed simple and easier to handle than the real aircraft. Also the systems are not modeled deeply and anyone more proficient with the A320 could get bored with it very quickly.

[@swapnilkapadia]

Blackbox711 thanks for your reply! :)

[@ad_akp1662]

Interesting approach and nicely done 👍

[@vikramodedra4351]

Thanks, very nicely explained very informative, pace is slightly too fast for noob like me, I had to bactrack it several time to know what MCCU input are and what is happening

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. Thank you for the feedback. I will try to go a bit slower next time.

[@thefl4me957]

Why did u not make DU02 and GR into overfly waypoints in order to achieve the exact nice constant 180 turn like on the chart? As i understand the chart u should start the turn at DU02 but the way u have it in the fmc u would start the turn before.

[@Blackbox711]

You are making an excellent point there! The pattern would have been more like on the chart if I had used the overfly function. When I was making the video I just didn't think of that.

[@xZise]

I was wondering the same, so thank you for answering here! Really fascinating how much detail there is in this addon!

[@maulepilot1294]

GPS cordonates

[@sabre9970]

@@Blackbox711 now we'll need your another video on Dubrovnik )) Thanks!

[@airbus330tmt]

Just saw this video and was wondering about the same. Thanks for clarifying it!

[@emiledanlpan3038]

Great job, as usual. Thank you very much.

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you Emile

[@flightsim_budy93]

A new Video from BB with a very good topic yeah

[@Blackbox711]

Thanx Daniel!

[@KEITHGEE1000]

Great stuff as always thanks. I’m still FSX but will be moving to P3D in the Autumn so I can fully benefit from your tutorials.!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you! All the best transitioning to P3D.

[@davey6693]

Brilliant video as always.

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you Dave!

[@daschmoboy]

Great video. Always learning from your great instruction. But wait. Something was missing. Oh, I know. The extreme windshear at the approach end! ;) All the best to you...

[@Blackbox711]

LOL. You saw that :-) Gives me nightmares

[@Blackbox711]

Happy Landings to you

[@mansourkwt]

Just a note, it would be much better if you zoom the MCDU to make it much easier to see. Thanks anyway.

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you for the feedback! Will do that the next time.

[@carstenri5769]

How could i create a waypoint 10nm before a regular waypoint ? Thanks a lot

[@speedbird8326]

Where have u been BB ? We real 737 drivers have missed you !!

[@Blackbox711]

:-)

[@koloinflight3799]

If I create Pilot Waypoints ( actual on Madeira 05 Approach) I get the new waypoints in blue color only. The AP don`t follow my new points. Have I to create a second flightplan every time to make an active ( white not blue) approachway ?

[@ehsan83]

I have one question. When activating the secondary flight plan why doesn’t the auto pilot adjust for altitude and speeds that we’ve programmed? Why they should be done manually? Excellent video thank you

[@koloinflight3799]

Great, nice to see you again here on your channel, I hope you enjoy the summertime ..this function for circeling approach is verry important, thanks for explanation. I` m still missing in the new FSL A319 the offset - function. What do you say as real pilot for the importance about the offset function ? Can you give a concrete example for that ? Thanks Lothar

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. Personally I don't use the offset function in real life. It can be helpful when you need a route offset because of a thunderstorm on the original route. On the 747 I used the offset function more often, especially over Africa to fly 2 NM right of centerline of the airways.

[@koloinflight3799]

Thanks, I understood on shorter flights with B737 or Airbusses offset is not common. We using offset during online groupflights on VATSIM or Flugsimulatorclub to seperate in one direction. I hope FSLab will implement this function in the A320 - Familie (64bit) again. Other question: Can we expect your handling with the new Airbus- Generation by AEROSOFT ( at moment A318-A319) ? Lothar

[@solidwings6388]

Thanks blackbox good tutorial would you make a serie fslab basic with more tricks ?

[@Blackbox711]

I will try

[@PopCultureJunkie78]

Great tutorial. 👍👏

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you!

[@alejandrodelavega9336]

Thanks, ver y good explanations, so didáctic. Nice day!

[@alessiocalandrella5941]

Between Fslabs A320 and the Flight Factor A320 which one is the best in your opinion ? Which one is the more close to a real A320? Thank you! I find your video very very useful!!

[@boomkip6831]

Hey, could you please make a video of the RNPZ for rwy 05 at Madeira in the fs-labs? It would really help me out a lot. You’re doing a great job!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you. I will try to so that.

[@arribaperu9624]

Sehr gutes hilfreiches Video :)

[@Blackbox711]

Dankesehr!

[@MagyarMatt]

Finally had a chance to try this out at Nice on an Rnav22RD approach. However it didn't really go to plan! The waypoints i created from the VOR stayed blue. So on my initial flight plan the final waypoint was map022 and not the runway weirdly. So i added the vor beacon for the airport something like AZR i think and then created a waypoint from the radial according to the distance from the chart. On my first approach the plane turned to fly along the first part of the blue line to my created waypoint but then didnt make the turn to follow the blue line to the runway! Just wondering why they were blue and not green and why the runway wasn't on the plan either?

[@Blackbox711]

It is difficult to say exactly what went wrong. However as long as the programmed route is not green, it is not active. So be careful when entering your programmed waypoints into the F-PLN

[@daricari2899]

Very nice tutorial, can you do one about Pilot runways, or can someone explain the function of them to me please?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. In real life I would say very rarely. I can check my FCOM to see what can be done with these features and if it really makes any sense of using those.

[@maxgausen9008]

When using flight planning.org i dont get so many digits for example: 57N020W Trying to cross the atlantic :)

[@Relax2437]

Nice video, thanx! I noticed you have an TM Warthog Stick. Do you fly it right-handed or left-hand? Since you always fly from Left seat. I'm thinking of buying one, hence the question. Thank you :)

[@Blackbox711]

Right handed. Thank you for watching!

[@koloinflight3799]

Will you touch the new AEROSOFT Airbus-Family in P3D.4.3 ?? The A318 function für steep approach is interesting...

[@Blackbox711]

Sorry, I will not use the Aerosoft A319/318/321/320. I have a serious issue with the Aerosoft Developers and their behavior towards FSLabs.

[@koloinflight3799]

Ok, kann ich wahrscheinlich verstehen ( kenne auch Entwickler der Firma) und könnte auch ohne die Aerosoft-Busse leben.

[@onculkoparan]

What would you do if you had to go around? As circling approach is part of precision approach (ILS 12 in this case), would you apply go around procedure for RWY 12 or 30?

[@Blackbox711]

You would always follow the missed approach of the initial instrument approach. That means if you are in the circling procedure you need to turn back to the original missed approach track for the instrument approach. And this must be done in the circling area. Unless of course there is a different instruction published in the airport information chart.

[@onculkoparan]

@@Blackbox711 yeah but isn’t it kinda weird not knowing the exact procedure to apply for missed approach procedure? Like we have to turn 180 degrees in order to apply the missed approach procedure. As there is no published procedure that I know, is it all pilot discretion?

[@Blackbox711]

For the Airport LDDU there are published missed approach procedures when in the circling approach. If you are approaching an airport with a circling approach and no missed approach instructions given, the standard procedure is to rejoin the original instrument approach go around procedure. And yes that means you might need to do a 180 degree turn to do so. Still better than climbing up towards the inbound traffic on the instrument approach.

[@Blackbox711]

And that standard procedure is known by pilots and is therefore applied accordingly.

[@onculkoparan]

@@Blackbox711 great. It’s all more clear now. Thank you for your answers captain.

[@rudi0310]

Danke!

[@Blackbox711]

Gerne 👍🏼

[@GWAIHIRKV]

Thanks, very informative.

[@koloinflight3799]

disregard ma last post. I made an error and now the pilot waypoint function works on the visual approch at Madeira with the blue (!) pathes as well.

[@uranusgodoy8694]

HI, Thank you very much for these valuable tutorials. Can we do this with Aerosoft's?

[@uranusgodoy8694]

I found it :) on the aerosoft also. and I could create the LFKJ IAC RWY20 VPT A :). Thank you once more! Waiting for your next Video !

[@Blackbox711]

Glad I could help!

[@uranusgodoy8694]

Two questions please : 1- If the radar give an ILS APR clearance, Can I use a VOR DME instead? 2- FOR a VOR DME Y with loop, can I enter directly to the base leg or It's necessary to go above the VOR? :)

[@Blackbox711]

1) You need to fly the cleared approach. If you want to fly the VOR DME instead you need to get the clearance from ATC for that

[@Blackbox711]

2) you need to stay on the published route in order to assure terrain clearance. If you deviate away from the route you need to make sure you have the necessary terrain/obstacle clearance

[@uranusgodoy8694]

ILs approaches become boring :) Many thanks for your clarification :)

[@uranusgodoy8694]

Thanks you very much for your reply. I asked my second question because somtimes we have STARs that end with IAF away from the airport. and the VOR DME approch start for VOR on the airport. how to do in this case?

[@Blackbox711]

Usually you would get a direct to that VOR from ATC or radar vectors to final approach

[@SyedAwaisAliShah7]

Don't keep the FD Off on EFIS control panel while having Auto pilot to get guidance from FD

[@Jimmybrianmike]

Kid ... He's a real pilot and certified and type rated for the a320 .. you just cant and never say don't to him or try to correct him.

[@SyedAwaisAliShah7]

He seems to be very humble and courteous :) but you are talking a bit different :) anyways this kid is also certified pilot and rated on Airbus A320

[@Jimmybrianmike]

good for ya .. i thought you one of these sim pilots who think they are smart and right all the time.

[@flyingpauls5267]

Couldn't you just enter the waypoint into the FPLN page, indexed where it needs to be, of course?

[@Blackbox711]

Yes, you can enter waypoints via the mentioned definitions as well directly on the F-PLN page. However, there you can't choose your own identifier names. And if you don't have the place/bearing info published (for example a non standard visual approach at an airfield) it is better to do this via the method I have shown. That way you can fine-tune the waypoints before actually entering them in the F-PLN page.

[@phoneix035]

Why do you have "LAND ASAP" on the ECAM ?

[@Blackbox711]

That was because I messed up my first approach while making the video and had to do the approach again. By that time fuel was getting low ;-)

[@chr0sser978]

What joystick would you say feels the most like the real thing (if you look away from the design) that youve tried in sim?

[@Blackbox711]

The Warthog Thrustmaster is closer that any other I have tried

[@chr0sser978]

Thank you very much, was thinking of going for the logitech extreme 3d pro, with a custom a320 sidestick handle on top of it, but might look into the warthog instead :-)

[@Blackbox711]

Well, the Warthog Thrustmaster is more expensive, but has a much higher quality. I have had mine now for 6 years and never any problems with it.

[@chr0sser978]

ill look into it, but thanks again

[@Master-Zen-x8t]

super Video welches PTA Preset nutzen sie da aktuell? Viele Grüße

[@Blackbox711]

Danke. Ist TomatoShade und dazu RexSkyforce

[@Master-Zen-x8t]

preset von R&D?

[@Blackbox711]

Yep

[@sabre9970]

"When you activate the secondary" flight plan you said "it kicks out the performance data" - is it a bug or a feature of the real software? Thanks.

[@Blackbox711]

The FSLabs does not correctly simulate the secondary performance data input yet. Hence after activation of the secondary flightplan you need to enter the performance data again

[@sabre9970]

@@Blackbox711 Oh, I missed the secondary performance data part completely. Now all makes sense, thank you.