FSX Steam edition. A review ? Is it a new start ? My first look and thoughts

[@hermanshelton3660]

I was able to use all my addons when I went to FSX Steam.

[@MrFahv]

To host a multiplay session you only need to forward ports 6112 and (probably) 27016 to your server. You don't need to open ports in Window's firewall. (Portforwarding wasn't necessary with GamesSpy).To join a session you only have to sign in.

[@dubbodaniel]

As an FSX veteran, I really appreciated your thoughts, you really offered a fair and valid view. Based on what you said and what I seen, I will recommend casual users to the steam edition, but for hardcore users stick with the disks and the knowledge we've shared over the years. Not being critical of Dovetail, but I agree with your analysis about being more than nothing but a distribution platform. That being said, the only time I buy their Train Sim software is when it is on a Steam Sale, so there will be some bargains to be had in the future I'm sure for everyone. Thanks for your video, I'll be subbing and checking back often.

[@flightsim481]

Thanks for watching and for the support :-)

[@JDvorak2009]

This is truly the wildest thing I have ever seen in a flight simulator! I mean WOW! Thanks for posting this!

[@flightsim481]

Glad you enjoyed it :-)

[@smokescot]

I have just recently gotten back into FSX. That said. Trying to learn from folks like you. I have the steam program also. I made What I think is a decent video from several of flights I would think that fellow flight simmers would enjoy. How do you load up video to Steam ? Also could you do video on the GPS. Wish Steam would have a 737-XXX aircraft for download. All the best. Well done.

[@AlexsFlyingClub]

Nice video! I too hope it exposes other people outside of the community to the hobby of flight sims. I've picked it up on Steam while it was on sale but will wait to install until the tech-savvier tinkerers of our community work out all of the compatibility issues :)

[@flightsim481]

No doubt there will be much tinkering, but how Steam responds compared to the original FSX remains to be seen.

[@MrCobolman-FSPro]

Ugh. What wouldn't we give for a few simple developments on FSXI? Things like: - 64 Bit - DX10 compliant - Makes full use of High End video cards and reduces CPU load Just these things alone would make it worth buying and development wise, it's a doddle. I'd happily pay £40 ($60 US) for that and I feel sure many of us would. If they added in a replacement for EZDOK, they'd have my money now! :)

[@sparkie66]

Xplane10 has all that....just sayin'

[@MrCobolman-FSPro]

I have tried X-Plane 10 and while I like it, I just find the graphics to be much less appealing. One of the things that makes flight simulation enjoyable for me is immersion. Going from FSX to X-Plane 10 seems like a graphical step backwards (other than clouds and shadow effects which are awesome). I'm also reticent because of the lack of third party support.

[@wooe]

MrCobolman Simple? Converting something like FSX to 64 is far away from being simple.

[@TomLawsonANIMATIONS]

Unfortunately, all three of those things are far from simple.

[@exondux5874]

***** Alpilotx makes free/donationware HD mesh scenery for most of the world. Simheaven has free photoscenery for most of the world. Free sky colors and textures from Realistic Sky Colors. Thousands of freeware (and payware), airports, planes, and cities. For even more payware, there is skymaxx, urbanmaxx, etc... IMO, X-Plane's community is better, and its default scenery destroys fsx (not trying to be biased, its an honest opinion). Lets face it - compare STOCK fsx with STOCK X-Plane..... Ppl comparing fsx with Orbx, PMDG (which is coming to X-Plane soon with the release of the 744 v2), rex, etc... with the stock version of X-Plane is completely unfair. X-Plane has no Out of Memory Errors, etc... As you can probably tell, I prefer X-Plane, but I do see the value is FSX. Just keep in mind fsx isn't the future.... the replacement that Dovetail is making is. Just hope it doesn't turn out like TS2015. Edit - Also, X-Plane has more realistic flight physics :)

[@TheTruemharris18]

Do you think they will upgrade the graphics?

[@grandpa1955]

Hi flightsim481. I value your opinion and reviews, they are well done, concise and to the point. I was wondering if you had a chance to view Jordan Kings videos showing back to back comparison of high memory use scenery crashing the boxed version of FSX, while the FSX-SE version grinds though it? Certainly he has a very high end system, but it would seem that the SE version perhaps is more efficient at using memory and processors? He also noted that Pete Dawson of FSUIPC has praised the cleaner code in the SE version. Your thoughts?

[@flightsim481]

RAM55 Hi, yes I have to say, I'm quite impressed with the stability of FSX Steam and I only have what I would consider to be a mid range system. What's more it seems to tolerate more programs running in the background for me. I haven't measured the memory use, but in fairness I feel that Jordan's videos are very good and well informed, so his findings are definitely worth listening to. I personally like his videos. If Pete Dawson likes the coding more than legacy FSX then that is high praise indeed. In actual fact, since I moved to Steam, I haven't bothered to re-install FSX Legacy. The only huge disadvantage is that the Steam edition needs an internet connection to work - unless someone has found a way around that. Huge thanks for the support,Rich

[@grandpa1955]

flightsim481 Thanks for the reply. I think all other things being equal, I will switch the to SE version. Not much of a dent in the pocketbook anyway. Some of your other followers mentioned Dovetail is using the income from the Steam version to develop a new version of a flight simulator. Hope so as FSX needs updating to use modern processor power. Still the best flight sim out there in my opinion.

[@stephanwestrum]

In the video are you using any addons? cause I'm planning to by the sim but no addons and I want a clear picture of FSX steam ed.

[@MA-fj6rd]

Does FSX you buy from the store different from the steam edition like multiplayer servers?

[@dogbadger]

The issue I have is that a number of my just flight disk based addons do not work on this - So far Wilco's 737 PIC, Airbus collection and DC-10 collection will stop as they prepare to install - presumably as they cannot find the program. I don't know if there are any work arounds - DC-10 collection has now been updated with HD as a steam based payware addon (i think you reviewed it) so there is no incentive for Justflight to help get the disk version working with steam edition.

[@flightsim481]

Sorry to hear of your difficulties but with most developers have moved to Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020/2024, there is not much incentive for them to support older products.

[@dogbadger]

​@@flightsim481 It is what it is - some disk based addons detect the steam installation and work ok for the most part, and others don't. That's fine, I don't expect that to change but it would be nice if there was an easily found resource which tells you which do work - either for the person who bought lots of addons in the past, and wants to know if FSX-SE is worth buying OR the owner of FSX-SE who may look to pick up disk addons on the second hand market (which would certainly be cheaper than those that are listed on steam)

[@felixkeller3960]

How to change from window to fullscreen?

[@Wattiemcflurry]

+Felix keller ALT+ENTER I think

[@vipinst]

My game crashes if I click on any options on the menu bar. Is there any fix for that? My system is running on Windows 8.1

[@johnpatrickgonzales2065]

I got this game today on steam for £2.5. It's on sale today :)

[@siddeeqhasim3728]

What software did you use to record it?

[@nydelicious4u]

thanks and where can i buy it?

[@flightsim481]

No problem. You can buy it at the online Steam store.

[@Sittin.]

Hey. You seam to have a lot of knowledge on this stuff. I just got fsx steam and wonder if you know how I can start a free flight anywhere in air. For example, 4 miles away from any airport, so I can practise landings in different wind directions. I know how to customize wind, but not to start a flight in the air. Thanks for your videos.

[@flightsim481]

+Xittin Anas Hi, I'm not sure if it can be easily done in FSX. In theory, you can take off, configure for a landing, go into the map and manually change altitude, lat and long, heading and speed then save the scenario but that is tremendously laborious. Alternatively just fly to your desired start point for your chosen exercise, pause and save the scenario. Other than that, the only easier way to do it is via a payware program called FSIPanel.

[@Sittin.]

+flightsim481 Your second suggestion worked very well for me. You can even change aircraft in the flight tab :) Thanks a lot for your tips.

[@flightsim481]

Glad it helped :-)

[@Sittin.]

+flightsim481 If you look in your crystal ball... what do you see, or expect, from upcoming (next gen) flight sims? Better landscape textures maybe?

[@flightsim481]

I feel there will be a push towards X-Plane and DCS just because of the limitations of 32 bit platforms. I think next gen will be more about the environment with more detailed systems regarding air masses, icing, winds, rain, changes in runway brakng action and so on. Several companies have nailed high fidelity aircraft or airport sceneries but I feel the next big step for realism is in making the skies live. I guess ;-)

[@jacktrendell3753]

Hey, so I don't have the best computer, what do you game on, and how does the game run?

[@flightsim481]

+ThatKimFace Tho My computer details are in the description and the game runs as per the video you see here.

[@EchoChick2009]

tnx 4 a candid look at the Steamy version! and as usual, u nailed it flightsim481. i'am the "fresh blood" u mention in the description:) and from a complete newbie's point of view (ME) i tried, and failed to install FSX Gold Edition on my high end gaming PC. so thank u Dovetail! u patched it, and configured it B4 u gave it to me. i realize it's my own fault i was unable to get it configured properly (i'am dumb) but jst B'cuz i'am not a pc guru doesn't mean i shouldn't have a flight sim,,, thanks again Dovetail! some of my friends had the same experience and r trying the Steam version also. we jst want to fly,,, not tweak :)

[@flightsim481]

No problem. Tweaking is not fun, flying is :-)

[@nydelicious4u]

thanks again i really appreciate ur prompt respond we will keep in touch

[@AvgeekCarGeek]

Do you know how to install ORBX??? keeps going to my old fsx folder which has nothing on it

[@flightsim481]

+Matt Gibby If you installed FSX Legacy previously, it leaves all manner of files and registry entries lying around which confuses ORBX. I would suggest looking on the ORBX forums for some advice.

[@amjadmisbahmohd3570]

Sir I bought it and after the installation is completed and when I open it says fatal error has occurred can u please tell what's wrong even I use windows 7

[@flightsim481]

+amjad misbah mohd Hi, I would suggest you check the Steam community forums and if necessary post on there with your difficulties. They will be able to help far more than I. steamcommunity.com/app/314160/discussions/7/

[@amjadmisbahmohd3570]

+flightsim481 ok thx sir

[@freezey600]

they made it compatible with win 8.1 which saved my life

[@nydelicious4u]

Thanks for replaying all my comments one last question does this game required a powerful computer cause I used to play fsx on this computer and is it worth it to buy it or just buy the regular fsx gold edition?

[@flightsim481]

Frankie Calizan No problem Frankie. You need pretty much the same computer to run FSX Steam as you did for the old FSX. The key difference is that FSX Steam edition works better with Windows 8.1 Ultimately though, they are the same basic program. You don't 'need' a powerful computer. People get hung up on the idea of having huge computers so they can make everything look amazing. My computer (albeit a self build) cost £600 and I run FSX, FSX Steam, P3D and X-Plane without any problems. What I do though, is adjust my settings and expectations. My machine won't allow me to max out all the settings, so I just set it up with the levels I feel happy with. As you can see with most of my videos, I get reasonable results. What I would say, is don't expect too much from FSX (either version) if using and AMD processor. FSX prefers Intel, although I don't personally know why. Personally, unless you already own it, you might find it hard to get hold of FSX Gold, on a disk for a reasonable price. Most add on producers have products either compatible with Steam version, or are updating their products to work with Steam, so I would certainly look at it. Personally, I quite like it, I'm just waiting for Active Skies Next to move to it and then I'll be happier with the Steam version.

[@thomasclarke4320]

Just bought the steam version and i love it the only bad thing is add ons don't seem to work on it sutch as majestics dash 8 q400 as the ifd's don't work and mine doesn't have any wheels also most 90%of switches don't respond.

[@RobertCooper1999]

I heard what you said about multiplayer; Do you think you could do a "Fly-in" with your subs? I think that'd be a great idea :)

[@flightsim481]

Nice idea. If I get the time after Christmas, it might be worth doing for a laugh. ;-)

[@RobertCooper1999]

Great! I know I'd definitely tag along! :)

[@humanintelligence1435]

Brilliant idea. Hope it happens. Never ever flown with others online, but would like to.

[@mrhovoxo7236]

@@flightsim481 did it happen? 😆

[@SQTierHog]

Thanks for the insight!

[@flightsim481]

SQTierHog No problems :-)

[@ghost9137]

Existing FSX user here... I am still wondering if I should buy Steam edition or not... I mean... If there isn't much difference other than Multiplayer and minor bug fix, then what's the point? I use FShost for Multiplayer and don't really give much about the bugs anyway. Never really encountered them directly.

[@flightsim481]

If you have a well optimised FSX which is stable, then I'm not sure I would bother changing. Some have experienced an improved frame rate, but that may be for a number of reasons. I didn't really get much change in frame rate.

[@JayBoii4TM]

You say mess with the sliders when it comes to scenery. What do you mean?

[@flightsim481]

When you go into the advanced scenery menu of the display options, you are faced with a number of tick boxes and sliders. If you slide them all to the right and 'max' everything out, you may well have an experience of slow, stuttering frames rates. Some good systems can handle it, most can't. So you need to reduce the settings by moving sliders to the left and possibly unticking certain boxes. It all depends on your set up. Put all the sliders to the left you will have a very fast, very ugly sim. All the way to the right, beauty but possibly with frame rates in single figures. Put on some demanding add ons, and frame rates drop significantly. Somewhere in the middle will be the best balance, but the individual settings are up to you. For example, if you generally fly airliners at high altitude, you may not want the ground scenery settings that high, and so may turn them down in favour of more cloud density/effects. If you enjoy low level visual flying in mountains, you may want to have good ground scenery of textures, detail and autogen, but may be willing to sacrifice cloud density or lighting effects. Here in lies the key. There are no 'perfect' settings. There are settings that are good for what you want to fly and how you want to enjoy that experience. I would suggest, take screen shots of the default settings and then play around at adjusting each slider to see what it does, and if you like the change. I would only ever change one slider/selection at a time, and take a screen shot each time you do it, so you can always go back. It is a slow process but is very, very good at getting the best you can from your machine.

[@nydelicious4u]

Do I need fsx to play this version?

[@flightsim481]

No, this is a stand alone sim.

[@obnox1968]

I found the gpu improvements to be great. For those out there with none i5 or i7 chips the steam version runs a lot faster and smoother.

[@flightsim481]

***** I agree. On the same settings I have seen no performance change from FSX to FSX:SE. Granted it is more stable on my system (others may have different experiences) but Dovetail have not indicated any change in the core program (if there had been, I'm sure they would have shouted about it from the rooftops). I wouldn't have expected any given that they didn't code the original game, and to redesign it would take huge personal and financial investment IMHO. What we have is the same old FSX IMHO, just a different distribution framework, installer and making it more friendly with Windows 8.1. I'm not aware of any changes in the graphics department performance wise.

[@the800noypoop8]

HOW DID YOU GET AWESOMENESS FPS

[@asjadecosta9759]

I have a gtx 960 why is it that yours look way better than mines

[@AirbusA380rox]

I got it a few days ago as they were selling it for £3.99

[@evilmontezuma87]

I really invested money on my FSX game. I miss flying my Captain Sim 767, 777, 727, 737 and etc. I really hope they can do the add ons since right now I am building my own pc and really looking forward to playing FSX in it.

[@bridie183]

Do you happen to know if the sim can be played off line or have to be on line all the time. Can't get anything out of Dovetail. Cheers

[@mezilga121]

It can be played offline, but you will not be able to download anything or play multiplayer.

[@andersongeorge4653]

how can i update my fsx..??

[@71BoJangles]

FSX STEAM has been optimized by Dovetail to run faster and smoother. Frame rates are MUCH higher and it runs silky smooth. Give it a try, unless you're too cheap to improve your flight sim experience.

[@MK84]

Interesting... so besides bug fixes, Dovetail can't do anything else ie improved CPU/GPU features etc. Bummer...

[@flightsim481]

Nope, the licence stops them from development. It does however seem less temperamental than my existing FSX.

[@scottb2794]

I find I get a better frame rate with the Steam version. Maybe it's a bit more optimized, but it still looks the same essentially.

[@anbrod1]

By the way, which airport are you flying from??

[@flightsim481]

anders brøgger It's Innsbruck icao code LOWI.

[@hithere7201]

Is there a way to get on steam servers with old FSX (as in I have the OLD DVD CD version)

[@flightsim481]

I don't believe so because the multiplayer has been totally rewritten within the sim.. :-( But I may be wrong.

[@hithere7201]

Ok :(

[@fowlbird1000]

25 minutes? It took a 10 hour download for me!!!

[@Flamish]

hey i got a question for you i am looking to get into real flightsim realism but i dont knwo the best game for me i use the saitek 52x edition stick and throttle and wanne get to serious bussiness with flightsims do you know the best game to let me really learn how to fly an aircraft and learn every procedure before take off ow &and multiplayer

[@skybluerob1]

Hello, Which airport is in this video? Thanks.

[@flightsim481]

Innsbruck :-)

[@skybluerob1]

flightsim481 Thanks :-)

[@markpetruk]

Do you get all the plane or do you start with one and you have to buy the other ones ( I mean Boeing , Airbus sort of planes) Can you name the planes that comes with the game?

[@takamanch]

Late reply but heres a reply just incase there are more people with the same question. Basically after buying the game, you get tons of planes ranging from boeing to airbus and small planes like the piper j3 cub or the cessna. These all come with the sim by default, if you wanted more planes you could get them from sites like simviation.com.

[@markpetruk]

@@takamanch Wow this was a while ago thanks for the reply. Got into the new 2020 Sim so FSX is useless now.

[@takamanch]

@@markpetruk haha same for me, my old pc broke so i got a new one after several years. i bought xplane instead, btw whats your pc specs to run mfs2020?

[@markpetruk]

@@takamanch I've got a 1660Ti and a R5 2600X currently. Getting an upgrade as soon as I'm out of Uni, hopefully the prices will relax by then. I run it on a stable 60 FPS at medium settings.

[@WorldlifeUtube]

Enjoyed your circuits and chat. Could you remind me of the penalties that might be imposed on you for landing on a runway with another aircraft not yet clear ? :) Maybe a supplementary video with an aborted landing as soon as the obstructive aircraft is in sight? Otherwise liked the low tree cropping approaches! Basic question I have not been able to get Dino's downloaded aircraft showing in the FX available aircraft. Is this product likely to handle this side of things easier?

[@flightsim481]

Sorry Vic, I'm away for Xmas and so can't mess around with Dino's stuff to help you. If you message me after the weekend, I'll see what I can do to help. Its designed to be installed directly into fsx, but steam has a similar file structure so it shouldn't be too hard to sort. They weren't circuits, that was just messing around :-)

[@56wrsyokota]

FS481 -have seen a couple of your vids, a bit wordy but informative. We have similar backgrounds having flown some of the RAF's finest - I was on exchange with the RAF in the '70s (dating myself) and flew the Hunter, Gnat, Hawk, Jaguar and one go in the Harrier (flew like a lorry - underpowered) I'm also hooked on FSX (gave X Plane10 a try but didn't like it - and can't justify buying Prepare). My favourite plane for FSX is the Spit - now there is a classic. A2A did a great job there. From what you say, the steam edition isn't that much better than FSX with Acceleration pack. Cheers - an ol' RF-4c driver.

[@flightsim481]

Sorry to say this but the mere mention of the Gnat dates everything ;-) Glad you enjoy the video's. I know they are a bit wordy, but I feel it's worth the effort to at least try to pass some information on about the add ons. After all, developers spend years on the modelling both visually and in terms of flight so I just try to do their efforts some form of justice. Thank you for your support :-)

[@ThomasBKoch]

Does all addons work? both freeware and payware?

[@flightsim481]

Thomas Koch All I can say is probably not. Likewise, I can't tell you which will and which will not. I would suggest before paying for any aircraft which isn't sold as Steam compatible, you ask on forums, particularly the developers.

[@patrikstreng6834]

Pmdg works, orbx global and vector work, rex 4 texture direct work for me

[@airpascal747]

Did they fix the fatal errors???

[@amjadmisbahmohd3570]

Even I get those now

[@amjadmisbahmohd3570]

Even I get those now

[@amjadmisbahmohd3570]

Even I get those now

[@jeeen1982]

In the Video Lessons, the plane sound is working, but NOT the instructor's voice I get a message about SCRIPT FILE MISSING... looks like a known problem. also instant replay is jittery when viewed from outside the plane... unacceptable ! my FS2004 works perfectly.

[@bestboy007]

don't forget you can't use warez addons. so you will need rich parents or a rich chef.

[@yaseenmisbah2247]

sir does this work for windows 7 thx

[@flightsim481]

+yaseen misbah Yes, this video was filmed in Windows 7

[@UshTheGreat]

What airport is that?

[@flightsim481]

Innsbruck

[@UshTheGreat]

flightsim481 Thanks, And a Happy New Year!

[@JayBoii4TM]

Thanks a lot!

[@jacktrendell3753]

Thanks

[@Wattiemcflurry]

I bought FSX steam in a shop as a disk!!!!

[@flightsim481]

+smart brain The Steam edition of FSX is only downloadable from the STEAM online store. If it's on disk it's more likely to be the original FSX.

[@Wattiemcflurry]

Trust me I read the front in massive text it says Flight Simulator X steam edition and when I installed it Sayed FSX steam

[@MuratAyata]

most of them is impastor except Cerenado and PMDG this two is realy know what they are doing one more exception aerosoft is good

[@Dan67518]

They didnt fix the memory crashes, which makes it pointless to me.

[@Wattiemcflurry]

What airport

[@flightsim481]

+smart brain It's Innsbruck

[@Wattiemcflurry]

THX

[@LiamHaHaX]

Its £10 at the moment. As someone that has never played a flight sim, still not sure its the right place to start.

[@flightsim481]

If you are interested in flight simming, I would suggest that there are far more expensive places to start. There is a wealth of information and help out there about FSX, so if anything I would say it's as user friendly a place to start flight sims as anywhere and for just £10 at the moment.

[@LWJCarroll]

Its great if you can run it ok on your PC..I have always got the Fatal Error issue with the Accelerator .... version of FSX Gold Edition....never figured it out (Win 7 64 bit) and unfortunately have the same issue on the Steam version which incorporates the Accelerated version...I did get it for just NZD16.00 approx but figured they would be able to do bug fixing to improve it...but you mentioned they dont have that permission/licence to do so...aka no development work??...at least I havent lost too much $$ as Steam apparently do noot do refunds.....Thanks for the video and it should be great for those who can run it ok...Rgds....Laurie

[@flightsim481]

That's a shame, sorry to hear that. They have fixed some bugs, but I suspect the bulk of the work related to multi-player and Steam installation (particularly for DLC).

[@ParadoxalGradientAnime]

You might have a corrupt download. Just re install it.

[@TheAcamus1]

Check out my FSX Steam Edition home cockpit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haO7aIqOrtudodk

[@vbk929]

I paid £9.99 in sale :D

[@T0rtureph1le]

You sound a bit like General Minus.

[@timandben1]

dat plane at 7:00

[@StackableGoldMC]

It took mee 4 hours to download

[@flyingscalpel7]

Currently, X-Plane 10 looks more attractive than FSX.

[@Nirond]

if they did not do upgrade that mean still crap still crash still piss you off when you are try to fly, multi-players ? who cares ! Vatsim still the best!!

[@mikemac2888]

Trolling. Only reason for this on Steam. Realism off, and what's not to like?

[@generalrac1633]

He sounds like squirrel

[@RandyMarsh-rv2pj]

ikr

[@MuratAyata]

FACT Clean Windows7 Clean fsx and add on pmdg cerenado you are not going to believe your eyes but systems ought to be core 4790K over clock 4.4GTX980 4GB 16gb memory advance mother board 1150 asus and SSD samsung single 500 GB

[@RobertCooper1999]

:D

[@Sittin.]

DCS

[@Sittin.]

+Xittin Anas That paste went in the wrong place :)

[@Aiimhawk]

pretty hypocritical of you to criticize rails sims dlc business model since its the same for flight sim too. no one buys every single addon for flight sim, you buy what interests you. same for train sim.

[@flightsim481]

Hi, AimHawk. Sorry, but there was no intent to come over as critical of the business model. As I hope my video emphasised, I found the download, install and stability of FSX Steam to be excellent. My concern really is more to do with the potential of only having one single distributor, allied to the fact that many may (or may not) be faced with having to spend hundreds of pounds if they wanted to migrate to FSX Steam but found they needed to repurchase their add ons. Apologies if my remarks caused confusion.

[@Aiimhawk]

***** lol what? its the same type of hobby and same buisness model. you buy trains/planes that you want. compare the routes for train sim to orbx regions.

[@Aiimhawk]

how do you know if they havent even shown anything yet?

[@nieviation5432]

For me FSX steam is SSOOOO slow

[@nieviation5432]

Xplane10 is much easier

[@paulrubens3048]

cant use directx properly? stop the video, I am out of here :)

[@htc2hd]

I would never buy it