Fujifilm Video Stabilization (IBIS vs OIS)

[@galachiev]

Every time Chris slaps camera on the table or rapidly takes off the lens I’m getting a bit worried😅

[@AcraniusCH]

My guess is, it's one camera per video and he has a room stacked to the ceiling with spares!

[@benbeattie4609]

Which would you recommend for the best "In body un-stablisation": Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek or Wild Turkey?!

[@root9065]

Bonus: I also learned recently why when you turn off the OIS switch on the 18-55 on the X-T4, it also turns off IBIS on the camera. It baffled me for so long, why IBIS wouldn't just kick in and treat the lens as non-OIS. But this is why - because when you put it on a tripod, you would need a quick and effective method to turn off all stabilization.

[@Mrlloydvideos]

Thx

[@premyslvavrousek]

From my experience, I can say that for IBIS to work, it is very important to set the focal length of the manual lenses in the camera settings. Improperly set focal length for manual lenses degrades IBIS performance a lot. Properly set focal length greatly improves performance.

[@austinprice770]

Good thing to know, thank you!

[@antoinecarpentiers7807]

@@austinprice770 not sure 100% but I think when you plug a Fuji lens into your body camera (fuji as well), the camera recognizes the focal length automatically.

[@flashsam291]

I am a little new to this sir. You mean that in settings you adjust the focal length? I don't find this setting!

[@premyslvavrousek]

@@antoinecarpentiers7807 Of course - with any autofocus lens (not only from Fujifilm), it transmits the focal length automatically. I'm writing about manual glass, where you need to set the focal length in the camera settings for IBIS to work correctly for that focal length.

[@premyslvavrousek]

@@flashsam291 For example on my X-S10 it is the last item, the last subpage of the IQ menu - MOUNT ADAPTOR SETTING. No settings are needed for autofocus lenses. For manual lenses, it is always a good idea to change the current focal length for each glass. Firstly, this is written into the EXIF data of the photo and secondly - if the camera has IBIS, it can only work properly with the correct focal length.

[@dtucny]

One thing to note on the mention of stabilization in post production is that motion blur is not easily removed, so preventing motion during the exposure of each frame using IBIS and/or OIS will produce better results. Obviously, the higher the shutter speed, the more you can reduce motion blur, but it's generally favourable to have some 'good' motion blur for the appearance of smooth motion, using a shutter speed of double the captured frame rate for example.

[@Surmoka]

True dat. Moreover, stabilization in post-process is a lossy process, whereas OIS/IBIS are not.

[@kevingullick1596]

Yep, i came to the same conclusion, I get more stabilisation useing my non ois 16-55mm on my xh1 than I do useing fuji ois lenses on my xt3. Great video as always 👏

[@exploringautism]

Thanks for the great video pal2tech! Is the OIS on the XF 16-80mm smoother than the OIS on the XF 18-55mm when paired with the XT3?

[@izobrr]

Did you enter the correct focal length in the menu for your manual lens? IBIS need to know it to work properly.

[@realMartinHamilton]

I say just get a good $300 gimbal and forget ibis and ois. Money saved and smoother video.

[@A-Mana]

I thought OIS+IBIS would behave almost like a gimbal. Nonetheless, the extra stabilization is most welcomed :) Thanks man a nice video AGAIN!

[@professionalpotato4764]

In theory you could almost do that. It's just pretty hard. Olympus almost got there which is very impressive. Panasonic's a close second. However nothing will replace gimbals. Tiny magnets will never match the torque of real motors.

[@root9065]

Gimbal is on a multi-axis hinge... that has so much more ample stabilization capabilities to cancel your own ample movements, than a few millimeters travel which is what your OIS /IBIS has to spare... all things considered, OIS+IBIS are doing a pretty mind-blowing job. The only thing that comes close to a gimbal is electronic stabilization on high end smartphones, because basically it works with a larger resolution sample, straightens the frame and dynamically crops out the "extra" thus stabilizing the image much like a gimbal.

[@staiain]

Good informative video, I'm considering getting a x-t4 or h2s in the future but my 80mm macro OIS is loud as a train and it ruins any video i take with it, OIS off and IBIS on seems to be the solution. the 30mm macro lens wouldn't be as useful for video as I want the working distance

[@junhur_photography]

Hi Pal, Can you do a video for Cheap 3rd part macro x mount lens vs Fujinon 56mm f/1.2 with extension ring comparison please? would be very interesting content to do!

[@gundeepraj7246]

hey pal you seldom talk about x-h1.

[@hagchr]

My 10-24mm with OIS worked perfectly with X-T2 both for photo and images. However, with X-T4 and IBIS, there is bad warping going on, even when the camera is still, so footage is not usable, have to turn off all stabilization for wide shots. I wish there was a way to turn off IBIS and only use lens OIS, but that does not seem to be possible.

[@bill3117]

Great comparisons! I always wondered if the combo of both stabilizers were a good thing. What about stills in low light, while trying to keeping the ISO in the low numbers?

[@vincencohan3626]

Gimbal is the way to go for videos

[@everardopastor]

Hi there, great video! I’ve always wanted to know whether I should keep the IBIS and OIS on while shooting video on my XT4 when using it with a gimbal?

[@delhiinstituteofyoga-yogab3201]

Thanks for sharing knowledge 🙏

[@kennethnielsen3864]

How about 18-55 with stabilisation turned off?

[@manoleasa25]

great video! you didn´t mention the boost mode on xt4.

[@zaur1703]

Thanks for the video. I have 1 issue with my x-s20. When i use 18-55 kit lens and shoot a video on 55mm it comes out very vobbly. Do you have an idea why and how to solve this? on 35 the footage is fine. Even OIS+DIS doesn't help

[@sauzefilms]

this is super helpful. i'm a run-&-gun kinda go who's not a big fan of gimbals so i was checking out cameras with IBIS/OIS but i forgot which was more important. thanks to you i'm gonna go for cameras with IBIS. at least i can adapt old non-OIS lenses for videos.

[@satyanu28]

Very useful comparison. Would using IBIS and OIS with a Gimbal or Glidecam be redundant? Would love to see any comparisons you have done on that front!!

[@christianladwig3264]

You make 1st class Videos! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@clausstahl5166]

Is it just my impression that ois and ibis just works when I am not walking. When I just walk a little I can see theugly wobbling effect. I think that the communication of Ibis and ois doesn't work well. With the viltrox lenses it's much better because only IBIS is working. Where are all the firmware updates? Before I switched to fuji they always said fuji is strong with making the cameras work better with firmware updates?

[@andychandler3992]

2:54... I ended up putting the 18-55 on the xh1 which has ibis and I don't have to sell my firstborn to pay for. That combo is amazing and if there's a bad photo to be had with it... I'd probably have been drinking too much from the markers mark bottle in your video.

[@donriemer]

Chris, many thanks for this excellent video; it answers a lot of my questions about the Fuji IBIS system. But here's one more. On Fuji's own specs page for the XT4, it states that IBIS works in "video mode only." Is this correct. For still photos at a long focal length and a slow shutter speed, I'd certainly want IBIS. Can you comment? Again, many thanks. OOPS! I just saw your other video, which answers this question. No need to reply. Thanks.

[@WilliamCrespo]

Is the OIS always on in the 15-45 XC lens? Or is there a setting in the camera that I need to enable? I'm using a X-T30II which doesn't have IBIS, thanks

[@geoffreymee7671]

Excellent tutorial once again ." just the facts mam, just the facts" ;)

[@marekczy]

Hi, I love your channel. Could you comment on the IBIS-related fan-like humming noise problem in the X-T4 and, I guess, also in other IBIS Fuji cameras? I just bought a used X-T4 and noticed this noise. In a quiet room, it is audible and is recorded by the internal microphones on the film. I found user statements on DPReview and Reddit that this is normal. Even statements from Fuji support were quoted. Is indeed this noise a normal phenomenon? I haven't seen any review so far that mentions it.

[@maurofranceschiplah]

good work man ... obvious IBIS is better ... OIS can not have stabilization of rotation ... sorry my bad english ... overall great video ... i think you are the best "technician-actor-joker-man" on line, talking about fuji movies ... a good camera x-t4 ... but I think the problem of x-t4 are ... 1 focusing video ... tracking objects is absent (Canon RP cost half but have ... and track a finger-selected object or area is less difficult in firmware than track a random position of face and eyes) ... 2 the AEL function ... work in aperture A ... DO NOT WORK in ISO A (and fixed aperture and time obviously) ... 3 noise of lens motor even this can be overtaked by external mic ...... bye

[@_ANGELO_SALA_]

HI, have you note that on XS10, IS MODE OFF menu option has disappeared (only mode 1 or 2 option). This means forever stabilized (also on tripod) and during sensor cleaning!!!

[@markbebawi6331]

10-24 OIS question - the new version of the 10-24 doesn't have an OIS button. Does the XT-2 menu system allow me to control the OIS in this lens or do I have to get the original version of the 10-24 with the external OIS button?

[@Ron6116]

Thanks again for very useful info. One thing that wasn’t covered is the shutter speed. I’ve been told at high shutter speeds OIS and IBIS doesn’t have enough time to work. And it may make the pic worst. What’s your opinion on this? I think the speed at which you shouldn’t use it is 1/250. My memory could be wrong on that number. Always appreciate your helpful info!!!👏

[@rishav98m]

Sir, i want to use XT 200 ( doesn't have IBiS ) + 15-45 mm OiS PZ kit lens for video, with DJI ronin SC ... Will it be good to go as beginner ??

[@Ed04rd089]

Can you kindly compare OIS with IBIS at different focal lenghts? IBIS should be more effective on wide angle lenses than on teles. Thanks

[@tammysypniewski1891]

You tipping that video while you film Chris? LOL

[@pal2tech]

It was the Maker's Mark, not me!!

[@uhuebner]

I have to completely DISAGREE. Nothing calms my hands more than booze...

[@durzog3668]

Thanks for the video, I always enjoy watching your content. I found IBIS+OIS+DIS to be most effective while filming with my X-S10 and 18-55mm lens. Love the setup. I turn off DIS, depending on what I shoot. Cheers! :)

[@pal2tech]

Awesome!! Cheers mate!!! 👍

[@hejakma4682]

It would be much better, if Ibis could be deaktivated because for panning in Video ibis is much preferred to the jerky ois !

[@lbcitylacounty4982]

Geez you are too rough with your gears AND please don't expose the sensors and back of the lens that long! 🤦‍♂️ I guess everyone treats their stuff differently also the reason why I never buy used.

[@inquisitvem6723]

I should ditch my Sony RX1 Rii. …sometimes I get blurry pics and other times good pics….it’s so random even shooting auto.

[@DigiDriftZone]

How about with ultra wide lenses like 12mm? I find the IBIS causes warping/wobbly corners and actually less pleasing they switching it off!

[@KCW1229]

Hi Chris, slightly off topic question. Does your X-T4 have a slight rattle when the camera is inverted when switched off?

[@hallio111]

I love how you handle the cameras, putting lenses on like asembling a gun, and slapping those cameras like the tool they are:)

[@ericzager6548]

Thanks for another great video! I've wondered how well OIS and IBIS work together. As an X-T3 user I look forward to "upgrading" all my lenses one day with IBIS :)

Hopefully with either the xh2 or the xt5 😊

[@1000psespanol]

One thing I haven't really "mastered" yet with IBIS is slow pans when filming B roll of, for example, a car. It is very hard to get one smooth shot moving slowly from left ro right or up/down. You can feel how the camera keeps trying to keep the original composition, without movement, and then jumps abruptly into the direction you are moving. It has been improved with firmware updates but with the Canon R5 or the GH5 I don't have these issues. Still :D I use a XT4 with the 16-55 and it is an absolute killer of a setup for hybrid shooting

[@professionalpotato4764]

Fuji's too new at this IBIS game. Hopefully they fix it in FW next time. I personally only use IBIS + Boost mode for tripod-look. And turn off all stabilization for handheld run and gun.

[@Tomas.O.Sullivan]

great video . is ibis important if i will be using my camera mainly for photos . cant decide weather to buy fuji xs10 or the xt3 ...

[@RajagopalanRamaprabhu49]

What about for shooting stills?. Not video?. Fuji XT3 or Fuji Xt4

[@vq7801]

fuji XS10 is my first camera and i learn so much from you video, Thank you so much for the great content!

[@vq7801]

@mipmipmipmipmip that's so ture, i use XS10 for video shooting mostly, so the ibis does matter a lot to me.

[@marcinwiniarski6425]

When filming on gimbal should we use OIS on?

[@yegorshatov]

On 3:05 its looks like there is artifacts due to dis on x-t4. Am i wrong and it was recordet without dis?

[@antdenzic7977]

Hi Chris, I've followed your settings for video on the XT-3, but I get flickering when shooting indoors when then the lights are on My shutter speed is double that of my frame rate. Any suggestions? Oh & it will only record in HD, not 4K. I'd really appreciate it if you could possibly help me out. Thank you.

[@ericzager6548]

What frame rate are you shooting at? Try exactly 60 or 30 fps to match the power line frequency (if you're in the US). For HD vs 4K, maybe you're hitting this problem - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipKkoYCobr94m6M

[@antdenzic7977]

@@ericzager6548 I'm in Australia. Thanks for the info, I'll check it out & see if it helps solve the problem.

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@antdenzic7977 It could be poor quality lights too. I used to shoot at a gym and there was a particular room where I always had to shoot maybe 1/40 or 1/80 instead of 1/50 even though I'm in the 25p region. The other rooms were fine if I matched the power frequency.

[@brickmier]

Are your shooting under LED lights? If so, try shooting with mechanical shutter rather than electronic shutter. Most non professional LED lights will flicker using the electronic shutter.

[@danielfulop]

love your videos man, but you handle all your gear like if they were for free XD

[@alan-muscat]

This couldn't have been more to the point if you tried. Not an ounce of fat.

[@Flyit37075]

would love to see ibis and gimbal results. I bet its outstanding.

[@mr_jarble]

What are your thoughts about the new rumors about the new xh2?

[@stevegalante]

Hey don't be so violent with those bodies !!!! :)

[@rahmatrasudin7808]

Me: i only have x100f?…poor me!

[@moviejamghat1942]

Very good content and representation...

[@mistaht5478]

Is Maker's better than Jim Beam?)

[@zufitriehf5390]

ibis give us wobble footage

[@mattstolzman]

Great video as always. I bought XT4 yesterday. What would you buy for a portrait shooter? 1) Viltrox85 + 7artisans 35 0.95 Or 2) Viltrox56 + Viltrox33? Or 3 Viltrox56 + 7artisans 35 0.95 Later I will certainly buy TTArtisan 50 1.2 and other cheaper fast manual lenses. People, please help me. It is my first Fuji camera. I come from Canon Eos system!

[@Vinterloft]

Viltrox 56 + Viltrox *23* . If you are planning to use these for video you don't want the 33 as it has a LOT of LoCA. The 23 is much better and they all focus really quickly. The Viltrox 85 is made for full frame and so is much bigger and heavier, it also doesn't focus as well. So it can be a problem with cheap gimbals. One last thing, remember to firmware update all these lenses (USB port at the base) and your camera, so you will have the option to set AF sensitivity and speed in your menus, otherwise they will always snap focus at lightspeed which isn't usable for cinematic shots.

[@professionalpotato4764]

Viltrox 56 is a good choice. 23mm will complement it well for the 35mm/85mm pair look that wedding photographers love. Check your lightroom stats to see if you have lots of keeper shots in the 35mm look. Primes are very dependent on style. I personally HATE the 35mm look, so I'll never buy a 23mm lens for Fuji. I'm a 24mm and 50mm type of person.

[@hailm03]

XT4 IBIS is outstanding!

[@alexandrealencar1796]

Incredibly helpful!

[@joshuachubbphotography]

Gimbal vs glide cam video next?

[@ted6229]

You do the Best tutorials !!!!!

[@jackh1749]

Interesting. Thanks!!

[@TheIndieGamer]

Such a helpful video. Exactly what I was after! Thanks so much! Subscribed! 👍😊

[@konstantin7354]

Is it possible to seal up a couple of contacts on a fuji lense with a tape for example, to get it a semi-manual, for reducing the ibis stabilization effect through the adapter settings?

[@laranitasantana]

When taking photos, do I need OIS to be working on my lens, considering that the Fujifilm X-T4 uses IBIS ? Can I turn off IBIS in the camera and just leave OIS working on the lens ?

[@ZekeFast]

Cris it would cool to hear what you think about recent releases on X Summit PRIME 2021. What most excited you? What are you waiting for to try and review on your channel?

[@flashsam291]

That was SOOOO helpful . Thank you so much for this sir. However I have a question if you don’t mind . I did exactly the same thing as the video , I tried the Artisan 16mm with IBIS, the result is very good . Nice stabilisation! Then I tried with my Fujinon 16-80mm with OIS and IBIS and it’s terrible. It’s so shaky I cannot even believe it. Am I doing something wrong you reckon?

[@sclogse1]

What would interesting to see is an action scene with both on. Like a fake prizefight with the camera as referee. It would test auto focus, everything. Did you know even the old pocket Canon Elph 310 had IBIS?

[@husseinaliabdulzahraal-dul1575]

great video great jokes

[@MaxR.]

Question: Will the camera know that with IBSI it can set the shutter speed lower or will I need to set the shutter speed slower? Like lets say if a X-T3 follows in P- or A-mode the rule shutter speeds equal to or faster than one divided by your focal length. Does the X-T4 automatically extend this or do I have to do it?

[@dazzdeadmeadow]

Good video. I'm a bit confused though. I have an XT4 with a the 16mm 1.4. For handheld shots, not walking just shooting handheld, what IBIS settings should I use? I have no lens stabilisation obviously. I seem to get wobbly corners with just handheld. I have boost mode on, is this why??

[@yerkohernandez9097]

I once saw a gyroscope system that saved the information to later stabilize the footage, something like what the new Sony cameras with gyroscope do. Saludos desde chile (Google Translate)

[@shaofengli5479]

Hi Chris! I really like your videos. I have a question about Fuji Ois lens without ois switch on Xt2. How can I turn the ois mode off if I use tripod? Thanks!

[@knapb89]

Thanks for cross comparing all the combinations my friend. I’ve been curious how much it stabilization would improve beyond IBIS by doubling up with OIS. Now I know!

[@shred3005]

And the other benefits from IBIS over in-lens OIS can’t be forgotten. Cameras that have astrotracer function built in like the Pentax K-1 use IBIS to stop star trails in long exposures plus straighten horizons automatically within small ranges and indeed the option of high resolution pixel shift images. Lack of IBIS in the X-E4 was my main concern when I decided to get it for street photography

[@showdaKOs]

I don't find interesting but rather reassuring that IBIS work as well on fuji and non-fuji lenses. The only way to make it better with a fuji without OIS, than any other brand is to artificially make it worst with the non-fuji lenses, in fact... Glad to see they didn't go that route.

[@liz2959]

Valuable. Thank you

[@Flyit37075]

Fuji question .. is it possible to export live video in 10bit out of the XS-10 body into a high speed SSD drive, or is it only possible with Atmos ninja in order to utilize the 10bit export on the XS-10 ?

[@thegeneral123]

My X-T3 and 16-55 lens want to know what IBIS and OIS are.

[@Krejstrup]

Good video, thanks! I mostly use post edit to stab any of my videos. But since I don't know so much about it I use a bit complicated method (free VirtualDub2 and deshaker filter). I even use this for video taken from phone shooting and action cameras.

[@elevatedfilm]

Awesome video, confirms my speculation. Maybe you can dive deeper some day and fully test the IBIS boost and digital stabilisation etc

[@cpalacio2503]

Thanks. You are very good . Its very practical. I have a xt3 and always asking myself about it.

[@lamp1kproduction85]

hi, i love your work and explaining fujifilm stuff, and i just wanted to ask you if you can talk about x-h1, i need to understand its true power, i dont find other people so informative than you, so i will be nice to see it from you. thanks.

[@TheSshadow7]

Since the 16-80 stabilization isn't that reliable, maybe I need to just use ibis when using it. Interesting video.

[@richyw959]

Great explanation I always wondered what I should be using since I have the XH1

[@azielce]

Thanks for this video. You answered a very specific question, concisely and rapidly.

[@professionalpotato4764]

One other thing to mention is IBIS generally works below 70-ish mm in FF terms. Anything in the tele range generally benefits more from OIS.

[@hans-joachimdederding4735]

Thanks for this great video 👏🏻 It was really fun to watch and it was really helpful👍🏻

[@davebenson1504]

Thank you for doing great comparisons while carefully controlling the critical variables...

[@HDA_III]

You just saved me a ton of money. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@sethie_shots]

Hey Chris- thanks for the vids as always. My XS10 does some really wacky stuff with adapted lenses with ibis/digital. Like it’s wondering around even if super still 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gabequezada2066]

Excellent video with great comparisons ....

[@AlainLafleche1]

And if you use a tripod with a video head using X-T4 you're on the go :-) Have a nice week-end !!

[@MikeBrunetti]

The XT4 stabilization is super effective, Thanks for making this video! Though I've had funky issues with lenses wider than 35mm on my copy. I get a lot of strange warping artifacts throughout the frame, even when the camera is completely still (with digital and IS boost turned off). It's as if the motor is overcompensating. Have you experienced something similar? If so, do you think Fujifilm is aware of this issue? Hopefully it can be fixed with a firmware update.

[@professionalpotato4764]

It a well known Fuji thing. Fuji is still pretty new at this whole IBIS thing. I use IBIS for locked off "tripod-look", but I turn it off for everything else. Also wide angles are generally harder to stabilize since the tiniest movement causes a huge shift in sensor/image plane. 16mm or 24mm fov is the widest I'd use with IBIS.

[@realMartinHamilton]

@@professionalpotato4764 would you say just forget IBIS and ois and just get a good $300 gimbal instead?

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@realMartinHamilton Yeah, just get a Weebill S or something for stabilization.

[@zerodicjcorez9173]

@@professionalpotato4764 Thanks for this !!!Just saved me a bunch of $$$ I have a X-T2 and need to use Ultra Wide Primes for Shoots , been kicking my head as to if the X-H1, X-S10 or X-T4 IBIS would be up for the job - for Stills id still like a X-T4 or now 5 :-))) but cant afford either now - so the Weebill S solves my issues... Thank you :-)