Fujifilm X-Pro 3 Hands-On: First Impressions From A Leica User

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@highlander200107
@highlander200107 4 жыл бұрын
I personally really like the ISO on the shutter dial, like my Nikon FM2N that I still use, it is a great throwback to the overall tactile control and retro look that the XPro is based on. And moving the ISO to a dial where the viewfinder is, would mean the camera would either have to be bigger, or change something in the OVF/EVF and perhaps make it not as nice.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Understand and good points. As mentioned it’s a personal preference on my end but know there might be issue design wise.
@CKreationz
@CKreationz 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.. ! Having shot the xp2 for years, that dial is awesome... took like a min. to get use to... but without changing finger position, I can almost instantly change my shutter speed, and iso... again without moving my finger position... with the other hand on the AP ring on the lens... it makes this design faster to adj on the fly than any of my Canon or Nikon body's....
@stefanboeykens8874
@stefanboeykens8874 4 жыл бұрын
You can easily dedicate the front dial to iso by putting the iso dial to c the front dial is iso, it’s very well placed and easier to use than the top dials.
@anthonymorrison2779
@anthonymorrison2779 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really mind the ISO dial combined with the shutter. Some of my 35mm film cameras I shoot on have them combined as well, so it's something I'd used to.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Understand. For me there was that ability to turn the wrong dial by mistake along with the dial you are adjusting
@danielknight6580
@danielknight6580 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. No big deal for me. I did it for years.
@jav8701
@jav8701 4 жыл бұрын
Hdr, burst and other options are in the Drive menu 👌🏻 The option to cook your oun film simulation style is dope! I'm in the search for that perfect jpg to shoot it all 🙌🏻
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was searching online and had a difficult time finding it
@ianbrown704
@ianbrown704 4 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive and honest review with practical user feedback, top notch
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian
@joshgreenwalt508
@joshgreenwalt508 4 жыл бұрын
I respect this was a real and honest impressions. Mentioned things I haven't heard anyone else say yet.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@frankiacone6642
@frankiacone6642 2 жыл бұрын
I have. a Leica Q2 and adding this to shoot mostly black and white. Love your reviews Bobby.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Don't forget to give us a thumbs up 😊
@peterferry1646
@peterferry1646 4 жыл бұрын
tested it and i must say i was sceptical about ovf… I adore it ! It's amazing to see the real world
@1fareast14
@1fareast14 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, the x-pro2 wan't on my radar, and a minute with the ovf convinced me. Really something people should get the chance to use in person.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
OVF has its place, but given the option of an EVF it does offer you more options. Magnification if you chose to manual focus a fast aperture lens, see your film simulation in real time and no need to guess your how your image will fit inside the focal length box.
@peterferry1646
@peterferry1646 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Yes but that's the same than XT3 and other mirorless camera… I missed the optical view
@klaushuxley3342
@klaushuxley3342 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterferry1646 I've been shooting an X100F for nearly 2 years now, and I never use the OVF. I bought a Fuji GA645i about a year ago and the way I shoot makes using a rangefinder very difficult. My framing is often way, way off. Drives me crazy, lol.
@WillHoffman_creative
@WillHoffman_creative 4 жыл бұрын
I think Fuji knows ISO is mostly irreverent. The camera was meant to be shot with the user changing shutter speed, aperture and exposure comp and the camera choosing iso.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Good points
@pascal6707
@pascal6707 4 жыл бұрын
Lifting a knob to select ISO (ASA at the time) was common on film cameras : no one ever complained...Thre was even a time when you had to focus yourself ! ;)) But I must admit, I don't miss the stone age...
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Haha yes. My issue with it was that the knob and the dial can get stuck and you end up changing the one you don’t want to.
@nathanielngosy
@nathanielngosy 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings Mr. Tonelli. Thank you for your hands-on review of the XPro3. Just coming off from a Nikon system and I've decided to go Fuji as my next set of photography gear but for hobbyist purposes only. I'm considering these options: 1. XT4 2. XPro3 3. XT3-X100v Combo Here are some key factors which are essential in my decision: 1. I'm not a Vlogger and planning to use the fuji cam for general stills/documentary photography (portraits, famil, street, food, travel) 2. LCD construction issues a. They say that the XPro3's LCD would be the toughest; 2nd is the XT3's; 3rd is the XT4's b. If I were to choose the XPro3 and I will be using its EVF to chimp, do captured images displayed over the EVF render good/natural colors VS the LCD? c. I'm interested to shoot waist level more often. 3. Taking into consideration the XT4's: a. Improved AF b. IBIS c. 300K rated shutter actuation d. Longer battery life 4. Durability/Toughness? [Reviewers are saying the XPro3's the toughest of them all. Aren't the XT3 and XT4 built as tough? 5. Functionality/Useability. You see I'm drawn to the XPro3 aesthetic but for many, they say that the XT4/XT3 are easier to use. In fact, Fuji youtuber Andrew of Andrew & Denae made a video for it saying that he won't recommend the XPro3 for new fuji users since one may need to access the LCD often to check or change settings. Here it is [kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZvbf5V_d6t8Zpo - Jump to 9:22]. Was he right in his assessment? Is the learning curve really difficult? 6. Also What do u think of the XT3/X100v combo? It's because I'm also interested in carrying a semi compact cam on a daily basis as the XT3 may be quite large for me. Your personal opinions or suggestions would greatly be appreciated, Mr. Tonelli. Thank you.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message. I also agree with Andrew on the Xpro3. It might be a bit too unique for a first time fuji user. Its a great camera but the display can be limiting for some. The XT4 has a better build than the XT3. Not sure what it is but I’m not the only one who felt it. It feels great to use. However if you want to shoot waste level on the XT4 you need to flip out and rotate the display. The X100V from people I know really like the camera. I held it briefly and I like the build quality over the XPro3 but that’s a personal take. The best combo in my opinion would be the XT4 and X100V but that’s all depending on ones budget.
@nathanielngosy
@nathanielngosy 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV I see Mr. Tonelli. Just thought that maybe the XPro3's the most durable of all but since you yourself held it and described its body section as underwhelming and a bit cheap, I trust your judgment. Oddly enough, one reviewer did say that the XPro3 for him had that WOW factor over the XT4 and said that the latter feel's plasticky. Yes, Mr. Tonelli, it really depends on the budget. Maybe the best combo would be the XT3/X100v for now. But still considering the XT4. Thank you for your time. :)
@AdamAllen
@AdamAllen 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid. I'll probably pick this up over the X-T4. I like the deep menu options for SOOC settings. Hopefully they keep it full of customizations.
@alfredmani1461
@alfredmani1461 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and fully agree. I feel the X-Pro line needs a little attention to bring it up to speed with the other models which are all excellent. Fully agree that there is an opportunity to further define the X-Pro as Fuji's premium and most unique model.
@caitanyaballabhadas7707
@caitanyaballabhadas7707 4 жыл бұрын
All valid points and agreed ... simplicity on menu for what it is, lets just shoot for the love of it!
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching an keep shooting!
@DarkstarDarth
@DarkstarDarth 4 жыл бұрын
If Fuji developes the next X Pro 4 with specs close to the Leica Q2 I’m in for 2 g’s. We’ll see what manufacturers release in 2020, I feel we will be closing in on medium format sensors this year. Too many of us have full frame lenses and Fuji STILL doesn’t put one in one of its consumer bodies.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the GFX50R and S are the consumer medium format cameras. The tech the GFX100 has will come down in price and availability and when that happens it will be a game changer on top of what they already have done. I’m currently testing the GFX100 and there is a lot to say about this camera that might need to be covered in multiple videos
@DarkstarDarth
@DarkstarDarth 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV .....GFX’s at $4000 a pop are not consumer cameras.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
For Medium Format they are. With only two players in the “consumer” MF market, Hasselblad and Fujifilm the demand for more sensors won’t be like full frame thus what we are seeing now are affordable options.
@chirag4
@chirag4 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for your No-nonsense reviews. My preordered set/kit of Leica M10-P White + 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (limited edition of 350) is arriving in 2-3 days, and it cost me $18,300 USD incl. of taxes & customs.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
That’s one impressive kit
@janfrosty3392
@janfrosty3392 4 жыл бұрын
Hideous contraption from Leica, LOL.
@bodythetan
@bodythetan 4 жыл бұрын
Chirag Parikh congratulations on spending money.
@maze400
@maze400 4 жыл бұрын
I liked your presentation though I disagree with your opinion regarding the iso dial. What are your thoughts on the x100v? I have the x100 and was thinking of replacing it with the v? I also have a xe2 and pro 1 both work great.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. The new X100V is a much better feeling camera in my opinion than the XPro-3. Build quality, dials etc. Even the ISO dial is better. I think if you don’t need anything longer than a 50mm go with the V.
@janrrob
@janrrob 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I'm awaiting stock of my pre-ordered Duratec Silver here in UK, so your video comes very handy :D Love the look of your backpack - what is it?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the camera! Backpack is a Gitzo Century Backpack
@brandenongkp
@brandenongkp 4 жыл бұрын
I still own a fujifilm x10
@Petrichor-km6bm
@Petrichor-km6bm 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! For traveling, x100v and xpro 3, which one is better?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 3 жыл бұрын
I think the X100V would be as you don’t have to carry so many lenses
@Petrichor-km6bm
@Petrichor-km6bm 3 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Thank you! I am going for the X100V!
@Red-xz1gk
@Red-xz1gk 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job. THANK YOU! Love the review. How much of see file quality difference did you see when comparing the jpeg and raw files from X-pro3 to this from Leica Q2 ?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Very different to be honest. First the Q2 is full frame and 47 MP vs the APS-C in the XPro-3. The Fujifilm is good and more comparable to the original Q in my opinion
@Red-xz1gk
@Red-xz1gk 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV thanks for the opinion! That is very helpful!
@adrianguggisberg3656
@adrianguggisberg3656 4 жыл бұрын
Leica already does the luxury rangefinder. This is the powerful rangefinder and that’s why I shoot it. To each his own.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Valid points as well.
@rashodbacon
@rashodbacon 4 жыл бұрын
Super fair and balanced review. Thanks!
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks much appreciated
@chrisrossleong5735
@chrisrossleong5735 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry bud. I've been using Leica Ms for over 45 years and use the OVF on my Fuji XPros all day long. So beg to differ. For me the OVF is not a gimmick - not in the least bit.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 3 жыл бұрын
We all have differing opinions. For me I prefer the EVF. I can see the film simulation, better for low light photography etc
@-DreniM-
@-DreniM- 4 жыл бұрын
Honest first impression i love this! Great job.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Massproduce201
@Massproduce201 4 жыл бұрын
Can you really distinguish the difference between full frame/crop sensor? I’m between this or the A7iii. Mainly this because it looks so sexy.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Only when it comes to depth of field.
@martindavey8742
@martindavey8742 4 жыл бұрын
Mine just arrived, first fuji for me, so only a few test shots yet while I set it up. The screen I love it, I still shoot a few rolls of T-Max a year, so that was never going to be an issue. Will it cut it on the street, and will we get along, I'll let you know :)
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats!!! What color did you get?
@martindavey8742
@martindavey8742 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Just the Standard black one :)
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Prefer the black
@martindavey8742
@martindavey8742 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Yep, me too :)
@eliaspap8708
@eliaspap8708 4 жыл бұрын
I agree regarding the iso dial, but not all is lost, you can custom set it so you can set iso from one of the front or rear dials. Problem solved.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Yes agree. Camera has a lot of custom functionality to it
@crispin8888
@crispin8888 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting first impression video. Slightly more on image quality/rendering would be nice. (I've just regressed from an M10 to an M3. Which Leica do you use ?)
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I use a Leica MP film camera. The image quality is exactly the same as the X-T3
@crispin8888
@crispin8888 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Thank you for the reply. The MP is nice.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a beautiful camera
@robiulahmed
@robiulahmed 4 жыл бұрын
When they make a GFX 100r version of this, I'm in!
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Me too 😊😊
@elizchan1
@elizchan1 4 жыл бұрын
I do think the camera is beautifully made. Many people like to toy with the menu even though they just shoot pictures. Overall, it is nice.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I agree most parts are very well made. The plastic I feel could be of higher quality since the titanium is so nice
@elizchan1
@elizchan1 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV yes. The plastic could be made of better quality than the plastic you think. That camera is made in Japan and not in China. That is a huge differences as well. The only part that is titanium is the top plate. You have a good review and thank you.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Massproduce201
@Massproduce201 4 жыл бұрын
It seems Fuji will eventually put a medium format sensor in an xpro sized camera and make it affordable
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Hope so
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 4 жыл бұрын
Xh2
@Massproduce201
@Massproduce201 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know something we don’t...
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 4 жыл бұрын
MrMassproduce201 nah , all I know is it’ll have a40 mp sensor.
@ptrcksln
@ptrcksln 4 жыл бұрын
great review again, I like how you are giving your point of view and not just listing specs like a lot of reviewer are doing. Keep it coming. nb: more leica lense review please :) 90mm 1.5 just came out ...
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes working on getting that lens for review. Will need an SL2 though as it will be very difficult to nail focus on a rangefinder
@wikenseru8187
@wikenseru8187 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid 👌.. I've already had fujifilm xt2, do you think it's a huge jump if i upgrade to xt3 or xpro3? I do photography just for fun and family. Btw where is the xt3 review video link?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! It’s not a huge jump but a good evolution. Link is now in the description.
@genghis2510
@genghis2510 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed when Ken Rockwell, a self-proclaimed Hasselblad user, reviewed the Sony's APS-C a6600 camera. He declared the missing in-body flash as a design flaw.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t care about flash so much with this type of camera
@eagleeyephoto8715
@eagleeyephoto8715 4 жыл бұрын
You obviously did not pay attention to menu.There is last item called my menu where you can put the settings you want to change and save it.When you press menu button then it goes to my menu.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I know, but it doesn’t mean that initially finding things is easy.
@eagleeyephoto8715
@eagleeyephoto8715 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV True, as a meter of fact only xpro-1 had straight forward menu similar to Leica.Have no idea why people always mention Leica when reviewing Xpro's since this one is a copy of Contax G and not of Leica?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Many compare to Leica due to the rangefinder design which Leica is known for.
@eagleeyephoto8715
@eagleeyephoto8715 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Yeah while there is no amy range finder in it. It is actual copy of the Contax G serie.
@miloradkaravidin8818
@miloradkaravidin8818 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for review. Not Fuji shooter and not intend to be for now. Is this cam for everyone, certainly not, anyway the point is that we all have different expectations and needs. All cams nowadays have great image quality, functions and it just comes down to out personal preference. Honestly I would love go give a try to xpro3 if have chance. Thanks again.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a fun camera to shoot with. That’s the one thing I took from this experience. Regardless of the misses the sum of it is that it gets you out there wanting to snap pic
@miloradkaravidin8818
@miloradkaravidin8818 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Surely looks fun to use. Thanks for reply and looking forward to new videos!
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@W5k003
@W5k003 4 жыл бұрын
Agree for some of the points, material of the body is plastic....yes but if they made the price higher people will go to buy a A7r3/4 instead, The X pro2 can add a leather jacket, only we do not see in X pro3 by now, The wifi and app transfer is not so good compare to my old GH4 it never had any issue
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. On the price front I disagree. While the Sony’s do offer value for money, some users want that rangefinder style camera that has a better build and are willing to spend. Also since Fujifilm has the X-T3 and X-T30 lineup why not make this the “luxury” camera. Again I could be wrong but just me feeling on it
@melvinch
@melvinch 4 жыл бұрын
Reviewing a OVF camera and not using the OVF..... Fuji cameras frankly should be reviewed by photographers from the film era using SLR. They will appreciate the dials and switches more.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I own a Leica MP film Camera. I learned on OVF and use OVF. Having said that, if the option for EVF was available I would certainly embrace technology and use it :)
@jeffreyb.1657
@jeffreyb.1657 3 жыл бұрын
Played with the Leica M10R for a day and hated it....very clunky handling....tried the Q2, liked it a lot but wish it could do more lenses....then tried the xpro3. Love it. It is what Leica would build if it had the ability to do so. It is a superior experience now than any of the Leica's. That is the sad truth...and it is 1/4 the price. You simply cannot beat it. I can afford the Leica's. I wanted and still want a Leica because of the legacy and the warm images....but the Fuji, hear me out, can and does do equally nice images and the jpeg shooting options with the film sims is simply another level above anything Leica is doing. That is really the key here. Leica is gen1 in image settings. Fuji is gen 4 or 5 now.
@bri3fcas3
@bri3fcas3 4 жыл бұрын
I think this camera forces you to use the ovf/evf is a problem. Why limit the option when other camera allows you to use both. If chipping is an issue, just turn the review option off and can be done in any camera. I think camera manufacturer shouldn’t fall back on doing things the old way and pushes innovation to make photography more fun and enjoyable. Ricoh Gr3 quick snap shutter without pre focus is a good example.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Actually I’m okay with the screen the way it is. It’s different than other options and doesn’t really keep you from seeing your pics. I look at it as protection for your screen. I like the GR quick snap as well. Nice and easy to use
@Boros777
@Boros777 4 жыл бұрын
I just want a new X-E with waterproofing and that screen...
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
That would be nice!
@LelleKidd
@LelleKidd 4 жыл бұрын
I miss my old X-E1 and X-E2...
@architecture.illustration
@architecture.illustration 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone that shoots Fuji knows how simple the menu is plus must buttons you can customise anyway. The drive menu is a dedicated button so is the quick menu. I can’t understand how Fuji can make it more simple than that dude?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not about setting up your personalised menu but finding items throughout the menu system
@architecture.illustration
@architecture.illustration 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never used a digital camera that doesn’t have the same sort of menu?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I get your a Fuji fan and that’s cool. I like the cameras too, but because I have an opinion different than yours doesn’t mean your right I’m wrong or vice versa.
@architecture.illustration
@architecture.illustration 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV it was a good video and I agree about the iso dial. I love the camera in spite of that iso dial 😄 cheers.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Cheers 😊
@jd2086
@jd2086 4 жыл бұрын
Natural color of titanium is champagne gold
@vermontmike9800
@vermontmike9800 4 жыл бұрын
Does the thumb grip on the back have the rubber liner?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t recall, and The camera had to be sent back
@alexmutovin9760
@alexmutovin9760 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! BTW that is this watch you use Bobby?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex. It’s a Panerai Submersible
@muatao9943
@muatao9943 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Yeah, I noticed the watch too. Nice! What is it about us camera geeks? LOL!
@rgarciamainou
@rgarciamainou 4 жыл бұрын
Good job Bobby, always keeping it honest. I’m glad you pointed out those details where Fuji dropped the ball.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Having said those points still a great camera
@krshoreham7634
@krshoreham7634 4 жыл бұрын
You mean being nit picky...well that’s how it’s comes across imho....however I still found it an interesting and well produced review
@elderinmoi1571
@elderinmoi1571 4 жыл бұрын
Materials should be indeed high qualitity throughout the camera. It is a deal breaker for me. I felt the same with the pro and pro 2. the plastic around the grip does not only look bad it also feels bad too.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Understand. That’s how I felt especially with the titanium used which looks great!
@NarcissismSurvivor
@NarcissismSurvivor 2 жыл бұрын
You lost me at “Personally I’d go with a black lens because it matches.”
@ghas4151
@ghas4151 2 жыл бұрын
The silver lenses don’t match the more champagne colour on the Dura Silver body, but the black lenses will batch the black “leatherette”.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
I still don’t get the screen issue. I shoot my Leica m3 all the time and I don’t even have a light meter
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 3 жыл бұрын
One is film one is digital. Different cameras
@douggottlieb
@douggottlieb 4 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong. This camera is perfection.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
No camera is perfect, but there is more to like than dislike with it though
@daviddelmar8400
@daviddelmar8400 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad review... considering you're a Leica shooter! ;)
@FotosyMas.
@FotosyMas. 4 жыл бұрын
Fuji needs to spin off the X-pro line into a new full frame mount with true rangefinder focusing. Sell cheaper than Leica and go after that niche.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I think full frame market is saturated and the categories they are in APS-C and Medium Format are their strengths. If they build on that but further improve their build quality which is already good, it would be very interesting
@FotosyMas.
@FotosyMas. 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV Many people (including myself) left Fuji for bigger sensors. They don’t need to create a fully featured system of lenses. Just 21mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm and 90mm primes. Fuji has done it before when they created the X-Pan for Hasselblad.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
For you this may be enough but others will want zooms. Then they will have to design a new line of lenses. However if you go to the cropped medium format like the GFX series then no need for full frame
@FotosyMas.
@FotosyMas. 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV I’m talking here a serious competitor/alternative to the digital Leica M. I don’t know of any M owner that shoots zoom lenses. (The WATE is not technically a zoom)
@bodythetan
@bodythetan 4 жыл бұрын
Fotos y Mas completely agree
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 4 жыл бұрын
3:00 its not “plastic”, its called vulcanite. It’s a material used since the film photography days. It is definitely good quality and classic.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
From my information it’s plastic to resemble the vulcanite look and texture. If it was vulcanite the wear and oxidation would be an issue and it’s difficult to replace. Even Leica moves away from it.
@kevinqlintang
@kevinqlintang Жыл бұрын
Respectfully, the only reason you got lost in the fuji menu system is because you’re a reviewer. You don’t actually use the camera. You just take the camera out for one day (for this video) and don’t even get any usable pictures with it.
@Thomas_Geist
@Thomas_Geist 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I thought I was the only one to complain about Fuji's complete inability to match colors. I had a X100T. I got the F and the nobs didn't match. They matched the silver X-T3 though. Probably contract these parts out and must have fired the guy that MATCHES THINGS UP. I got a silver T3. Did it match the silver 23mm f2 lens? What do you think? The lenses are a fair excuse for silver but the body is definitely Zinc that seems to turn blue as soon as you put the lens on. Great cameras and I don't understand this. $200 for the scratch resistant coating. For that much money they could have provided a matching metal hot shoe cover. This is weird about Fuji. I got a Pro3 and though I'd have loved to have the classic looking silver-ish version I knew they'd screw something up. "Black. They can't possibly mess up black." I paid $200 extra for a "silver" X-T2. At least the hot shoe cover wasn't black plastic but wasn't even close to the color of the camera. No room in $200 to spend an extra one or two on a frickin' hot shoe cover? The mind starts to wonder what corners were cut inside if they have to skimp on hot shoe covers and cheap plastic lens hoods to stay afloat. "Maybe that satisfying heft isn't really electronic marvels but old lead fishing weights they got a deal on at a flee market." "Why you comprain? Dark grey crose enough." NO, not "crose" enough! I had a Contax G1 with a flash, 3 Zeiss primes with hoods, and a little metal hot shoe cover in a cool champaign color AND EVERYTHING MATCHED PERFECTLY AS IF ACTUALLY MADE BY THE SAME COMPANY. Your review is the only one with the courage to point out that they didn't bother to match the nobs and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being annoyed about it. Since you're a Leica guy let me tell you then that they do this all the time. Maybe the Fuji executives go around in navy blue sport coats with black pants and just don't get it. If people complained Fuji might take notice, but I've found most Fuji owners are like cult members that fear they'll go to Sony hell if they criticize the leader. I actually love Fuji cameras almost as much as writing satire, but maybe they need to break with cultural tradition and hire a woman with the title, Executive VP for MATCHING STUFF.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it’s due to cost cutting or having to use different materials for different parts. Unfortunately these small things matter to some. I think looking at pics, black is the way to go
@Thomas_Geist
@Thomas_Geist 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV Unfortunately? You brought it up. I was just agreeing that if Fuji wants to put out a top quality heirloom product they need to follow through and do it. That's a $2000 camera. On prior X-Pro models they also had a dual magnification on the OVF one could toggle which made a wider range of lenses usable. By alternating the frame lines for the 23mm and 35mm were the same. That was unfortunately removed. What I wrote was mostly for entertainment but there was central point. "When you're going to tell someone the truth do it with humor or they will kill you." - Oscar Wilde -
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I was also writing this response in a slight sarcastic way when I said unfortunately. It does matter and for a premium price these things should be considered. Right now I’m testing the GFX100 and the attention to detail there is noticeable. Great feeling camera and the leather wrap on it feels great. They could have also implemented that to the Xpro3 with success.
@Thomas_Geist
@Thomas_Geist 4 жыл бұрын
TECH360.TV. I hate texting. One looses all the nuance. I wish l needed medium format not that that’s stopped me in the past.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I know what you mean
@harpersisland
@harpersisland Жыл бұрын
Apparently this guy doesn’t understand that retro looks come from vintage cameras not from months old DSLRs. Of course the shutter speed and ISO are combined because on vintage cameras the shutter speed and ASA dials were combined!
@markbradshaw7753
@markbradshaw7753 3 жыл бұрын
ISO dial and overcomplicated menu. You said it...they annoy the life out of a camera I love having.
@hugoflores3773
@hugoflores3773 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Panerai
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MikeScammon
@MikeScammon 2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't mind the dual dial now. I think people got used to it since having the xp1 and 2. Also, never noticed the plastic feel of the black texture. Maybe because the whole camera is solid feeling. I feel nothing but quality holding it.
@MrPeelhere
@MrPeelhere 4 жыл бұрын
Black or silver?
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I’m leaning towards black after seeing it in person
@martinsmyth5580
@martinsmyth5580 4 жыл бұрын
You keep going on about paying a premium can I ask you compared to what??? Maybe the 10000 Leica that’s the only thing you can compare it to.So now it’s not premium in a bloody bargain for what you get.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Since the X-Pro3 is the premium camera in Fujifilms APS-C lineup I’m comparing it to that. My reference to Leica is how does it feel to use. For example the materials used on theGFX100 for the grip area are better than the X-Pro3. They could have easily used that but chose not to.
@illdee04
@illdee04 4 жыл бұрын
The xpro looks so good. The design is amazing. But the camera is definitely not for me. Is like , i love it but i dont want it (unless some one gift me one for free 🌝) im good with the xt3.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Understand. XT3 is a great all rounder
@ashzhu3085
@ashzhu3085 4 жыл бұрын
Okay review. just wondering… are u a Leica M user that prefers EVF over OVF? 😂
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
EVF. SL2, CL etc.
@superking3551
@superking3551 4 жыл бұрын
Love the X pro3 but is too expensive. flipping scream make no sense. ( the screen .. can't Push it down 45 degree. ) Most Ppl who bought X pro3 is because of the design... old classic beautiful gorgeous camera and the film simulation.. when you hold the camera on the street and you look different. That Fuji selling point .
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I like the flip screen but understand it’s limitations aren’t everyone’s cup of tea.
@llr3zall151
@llr3zall151 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how a claimed LEICA user calls the OVF a GIMMICK!!! There are DISTINCT advantages to using a DIRECT optical viewfinder, whether it has a built in rangefinder or an autofocus system. Yes, the Leica viewfinder is bigger and brighter, but to call the x-pro3 OVF a gimmick just shows that you dont undrestand what it is there for...
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Sincerely I would like to know what the OVF has on a camera like this over the in built EVF? OVF limited in Low light, you can’t zoom in to nail focus on a fast lens. The OVF is small on the XPro3. If I’m using film simulations I can’t see them in the OVF. Perhaps a number of years back I would understand especially with the limited tech for an EVF at the time but today the technology is there and the need for an OVF on a camera like this isn’t needed in my opinion. OVF come into play more when shooting sports and wildlife I feel. But even then the newer EVF’s are getting close to the same feel. And yes even on Leica cameras there are limitations with OVF.
@Avg_Vet
@Avg_Vet 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you keep saying premium. Leica is premium, Fuji is affordable. Affordable comes with some setbacks in quality.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Because part of the marketing was the craftsmanship and premium build of the camera. Fujifilm makes very nice cameras, and some cameras have better materials than others
@petersymes8467
@petersymes8467 4 жыл бұрын
Seems to me you struggled to find things wrong with this camera.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
There is quite a bit I like about it, that why I named it the best APS-C camera of 2019 out of my top 5. My issues are more with aesthetics than anything else
@slothsarecool
@slothsarecool 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like they’re afraid to change the design, it has basically been the same since the beginning, it could be much nicer
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Titanium with Dura Finish was a good move, but you definitely feel the difference in quality even more so from the plastic to Titanium
@elementcreative4790
@elementcreative4790 4 жыл бұрын
If it’s a “Pro” series camera then fuji should remove the amateur exposure compensation dial and make that the ISO. Don’t know why this exposure dial still survives. While they’re at it get rid of the Auto aperture and auto ISO. That’s very “pro” is it? Food for thought.
@chirag4
@chirag4 4 жыл бұрын
interesting, sounds true. Thanks.
@TheIkaika777
@TheIkaika777 4 жыл бұрын
What is “pro”?
@1fareast14
@1fareast14 4 жыл бұрын
I'd ask for the opposite. Allow the user to use the dials to control the auto exposure, so set max aperture, min shutter, max iso. As for the word 'pro', it's meaningless. The x-pro1 and 2 were marketed off the weather sealing, dual card slots, and hybrid ovf. Now fuji have decided they'll make more money by courting film shooters. I'm not sure any pro would ask for no dpad, do ovf magnifier, and this screen design. I'd think that pros value a certain degree of automation, but the truth is their preferences are as variable as among the rest of us. As for the iso dial, I agree that it should be its own dial, which means some other feature needs to move. I'd be ok with losing esposure comp, so long as I could customize it to a press of the rear command dial.
@melvinch
@melvinch 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment just revealed your naivety in photography.
@1fareast14
@1fareast14 4 жыл бұрын
@@melvinch can you be more specific?
@_o__o_
@_o__o_ 2 жыл бұрын
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@joelstatosky1817
@joelstatosky1817 3 жыл бұрын
I just can't justify the leica price, thats coming from a guy who can fully afford it. I just can't. If I have the money in my pocket the last thing I think about is buying a leica.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Not everyone that has money wants a Ferrari or Lambo while some desire those things. I respect that.
@Thomas_Geist
@Thomas_Geist 4 жыл бұрын
Fuji made a rangefinder medium 6X7 camera that was very good but naturally a bit large in the hand. They angled the right side where the dials and shutter release were to make it easier to handle on such a large body. A great idea. NOT a great idea on a camera the size of the Pro3. Form follows function and apparently they forgot the original function for the angle and used it on the Pro series. DUMB. First it creates the optical illusion that the whole thing is a wedge. But more importantly, instead of improving handling (the form/function thing again) now on the X-Pro it actually hinders it by giving less height for the hand to grip and places the shutter button too low. I find it always interesting when the original reason for a design feature gets lost but the form remains and no one remembers why it's there. "It's the Fuji signature angle." Yeah, like the three holes on the sides of a Buick engine housing. FUJI, I was hoping you'd dump this on the Pro3. Square up the lines on the Pro4, if any of us are still around for that. Four years is an eternity in camera stuff and who knows, by then I might have saved up enought for a Leica M-10D. And yes, I'd rather have gotten a nice leather type material and a consistent silver color that matches the nice Fujicron f2 lenses than a camera I can now bang with a hammer and scrape keys across when the best solution for that is...DON'T DO THAT..
@KevinBjorke
@KevinBjorke 4 жыл бұрын
"Luxury Camera" is a broken idea. It's a tool. A great tool.
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the user. All cameras are tools but some want a nicer tool than others.
@KevinBjorke
@KevinBjorke 4 жыл бұрын
@@TECH360TV if you confuse photography with shopping, sure. 🥂
@growtradelearn1079
@growtradelearn1079 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bjorke To some consumers this “Luxury” camera is not Luxury. Just depends how you label Luxury. Is it by materials and or just the price tag is too high for you so therefore it’s “Luxury”.
@abstrusenous5914
@abstrusenous5914 4 жыл бұрын
What a joke. This dude is only worried about the finish and color of the camera?? And the feels he has when he holds the camera? What a Leica shooter!
@TECH360TV
@TECH360TV 4 жыл бұрын
Well since the camera takes good photos, equals the X-T3 in image quality, the standout feature is the design.
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