FULL COLOUR RESIN PRINTING!!! - StrataSys J55 Impressions

[@FauxHammer]

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[@peterbelanger4094]

It's depressing to see stuff one can never afford. Rich kids rubbing their fancy toys in our faces. why even bother telling us about it?

[@YOBAMUSTDIE]

Painting a still needed over this printing but painting would be easier when base is already colored.

[@3picdermis223]

Finally "can't print, yellow is empty" is coming to the 3d printing world.

[@patrickroland2215]

lmao. I was just thinking this!

[@marcusrouls7472]

🤣

[@michami135]

But my model's all black, why do I need yellow?? Seriously though, if this was just one solid color plus support, I'd pay good money for this. IF the resin is strong, and not brittle like the cheap resins. I can see this tech getting shrunk in the near future.

[@nathanthompson3251]

​@@michami135Stratasys has a resin called draft grey that prints in monotone color with support. There's multiple black resins too if that's what you need.

[@peterrichards1989]

@@michami135 They have a mono version of the printer, it's about 60% of the cost of the colour one.

[@gregthorne4292]

Once Epson gets a hold of this technology, the printers will only be $1000, but each media cartridge will require you to take out a second mortgage.

[@FauxHammer]

Hahahaha

[@fursphere2]

I was thinking HP and their evil ink cartridges. But ya, same idea. The media cost is going to be horrible

[@grinningtiki220]

I have photos from my smallinone that have been pinned to a corkboard for over 8 years now and and have not faded unlike the ones printed with a Canon printer. Epson is worth the price.

[@JMcMillen]

@@fursphere2 Or Samsung and the constant need to change consumables, even when they don't need to be changed yet.

[@mil3k]

​@@JMcMillenSamsung printers division been acquired by HP in late 2017.

[@Alphachanel]

We've had these in at work for a quote, price? £85K for the full colour and £45K for the mono. I still have the promo booklet they gave us.The results really are something else though, not only multicolour (and truly transparent in the same print) but multi-material (mixing hard resin and soft rubber like material) in one hit, very, very impressive.

[@FauxHammer]

So Crazy isn't it! Technology is incredible now!

[@swaslaukinonome]

Thanks for the review and info. Honestly I was expecting the price to be even higher, given the high production and ease of use, which save the pros money over time on par with the sticker price. My first thought is I wonder if some local dental production companies might be willing to rent out some time off-hours so I could possibly get to use the machine, because it looks awesome but I can't even afford a full batch of the resins lol

[@AndrewAHayes]

I worked at an engineering company that got the first laser resin printers back in the late '80s and then we got some FDM printers, it was truly living in the future! although I still did not have my flying car that was promised in the '50s LOL, and then I walked in one day and saw the DIY RepRap FDM printer that one of my colleagues had built, I ordered my kit the same day! I never envisaged having my own 3D printer, they were ridiculously expensive to buy and the consumables were very expensive also.

[@elchavode6479]

This technology has been out for a a long time it just not at consumer level 3d printing.

[@peterpeter5666]

@@FauxHammer i want one! anybody need a kidney?

[@oliversmith-n6h]

👋🏼former ten-year stratasys employee here. The J55 was a cool redesign of their polyjet platform (took years to figure out the rotating build tray), but sadly the BOM of material jetting systems like the J55 are seriously expensive, and will never drop to a point where consumers could afford it. I have a tonne of things I could say, including the market size/attractiveness of the miniatures market for a system like this, as well as the colour gamut ranges, model stability, pros and cons etc.

[@oliversmith-n6h]

But yes it is cool, and these systems are a staple in the prototyping market. I wouldn’t be surprised if GW has one in the model design dept to do quick, colour models for rapid concept designs and colour blocking. Also the colour version of this is between £80-£100k depending on your region.

[@lilietto1]

​@@oliversmith-n6h And do you have a professional opinion about the Mimaki or 3dsystem ones ?

[@oliversmith-n6h]

@@lilietto1good question. So the 3DS material jetting systems had the upper hand for service bureaus because their support material (material jetted parts are encased in a jelly like material) was washable in water, whereas (until recently) polyjet support required a caustic solution bath to remove support. I’ve worked with both and 3DS was easier, but SSYS modern systems like the J55 has water soluble and it’s just as easy, and non-toxic. Mimaki’s printers were always a side project of the muchhhh larger mimaki 2D printing company. In fact I was told by a source a few years back it was destined to be closed down due to lack of growth. However, because Mimaki is a huge 2D printing company, Mimakis 3D printers had a superior colour gamut with more rich colours than stratayss polyjet (this is from internal ssys research for their flagship colour printers) however the advantage of polyjet over mimaki (aside from knowing stratasys are sure to be around after you invest in their equipment) is you get more dimensionally accurate parts.

[@TTTray13467]

Just wait to creality gets a hold of it 😂

[@lilietto1]

@@oliversmith-n6h thank you for your interesting insight !

[@Kumomo92]

Can't wait to see Elegoo make their own version of this that cost less then $500, man what time to live in. even without color, the fact that you can resin print something and touch it without gloves and such is a big game changer.

[@linkmaxwell]

Removing the potential chemical hazards for the user is going to be resin's biggest game changer - I would love to have a resin printer at home but my small condo can't safely have the VOCs of industrial resin floating in the air.

[@dtibor5903]

The resin is still resin, so you have to take some precautions. But, yeah, amazing how the print is fully cured during printing.

[@olti6845]

Bruh i say 5 years and we got the 500 dollar elegoo version. I love it 😂😂

[@xopasstheaux6617]

@@linkmaxwell I've got one in my bedroom, have it in a grow tent with air exhaust out the window. Dyson air purifier running and can't even smell it

[@KcCake]

Cant wait for a decade to pass so we can pick a chinese knock off for $200

[@thimiraamaratunga7794]

a decade? No. 2 years max for a knockoff. A reliable one however....

[@KcCake]

@@thimiraamaratunga7794 keyword: $200. Id be very surprised if they coupd get a knockoff under 1k in half a decade

[@Mc-Derpulous]

Bamboo labs new 3d printing technology!!

[@ge2719]

And knock-off cartridges that don't cost the price of the entire printer.... When he said that I got worried this was going to copy paper printers in more ways than the print head. Overpriced cartridges that are just a plastic bottle of resin would be taking the piss

[@dtibor5903]

​@@thimiraamaratunga7794nah there is a japanese company named Mimaki doing larger and much more impressive full color 3d printers. These can print transparent parts too unlike Stratasys printers

[@thatHARVguy]

Who remembers custom color 3D prints of your WoW characters from Figure Prints? They were done like an inkjet printer, a colored powder layer at a time. Now we have it in resin. *Sweet.*

[@FauxHammer]

I don’t remember them. Wish I did

[@MagisterMagnificum]

I remember them, and was damn near to ordering one of my main as a keepsake, but it ended up being prohibitively expensive with shipping and VAT...

[@simonschneider5913]

zcorp had these first, with HP inkjets in the usual color scheme and a white powder.

[@nurpiet]

@@MagisterMagnificum well time to do it now then

[@TheKrakenfist]

If the surface is nice and smooth, or if they can get it to be in the future, this would be a dream. I don't care about the models being pre-colored, but a miniature with ZERO cleanup? Take. My. Money.

[@jonathansilberberg8933]

The surface finish is actually very smooth; this is especially apparent on non-colored models. The exact texture depends on whether or not the model is printed with a glossy or matte finish. What may appear in the video as a rough surface is just the resolution of the print head on particularly small models.

[@Drestlin]

@@jonathansilberberg8933 i'd like to see more prints of small detailed stuff. the coloured stuff looks kinda rough and i wouldn't use it as "a painted miniature". I wonder how locked the technology is, and if we'll have to wait 20 years like previously to get it in the consumer market at consumer prices and not at 50k per machine

[@ghewitt94]

It is truly an amazing quantum leap forward on so many fronts at once. The support process is as outstanding as the colouring.

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed!

[@PrintedRealmsLLC]

Quantum leap? No. This is just a reimplementation of various other 3d printing tech that we already had.

[@hotdoglukn4abun701]

I just want my resin printer to have supports like this.. that clean-up is amazing.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Insane. Guess it's years away from using this at home, but I could see waves of Kickstarters of cool new tabletop and miniature board games with fully painted/printed models in the meantime.

[@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov]

2.5 decades at least, because this thing is patented all-around.

[@igorchak48]

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov patent US6259962B1 expired in 2019.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep. I can see that too. It’s no thereat to painters but a viable option for paint haters

[@FauxHammer]

I’m sure similar technology exists

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov Not really sure that timeline will be correct as the patents can only cover relatively specific methods, so the same concepts should be approachable from other routes. The only question is does anybody or more realistically any group of folks in the creative, chemistry and engineering community have the interest, the time and funding to do the RND to make the same sort of concept work in a sufficiently different way it doesn't infringe the patent. (It could end up being a more consumer consumer goods oriented manufacturer, but they tend to wait for the technologies to be developed to a point before mass producing their RepRap/Prusua clone.

[@countcroak2640]

Really looking forward to the day when home 3D printing has this easy of a time cleaning up prints. Thanks for sharing such cool tech!

[@FauxHammer]

Same

[@RobertLeyland]

We had one of the early monochrome versions of this tech, at my work. The support material used a water wash station with a pressurized nozzle to strip it off. It was pretty cool tech back then (2010ish), and made super his detail models. They were also quite strong, and could make quite sharp edges. The resin was expensive, and date coded so that the printer would not accept it past its use-by date. The printer maintenance was a pain, the resin (ink) jet print head was the hardest part to get clean. We also had a color printer that used the gypsum/color inkjet technique. Those models were quite fragile, even when ‘hardened’ by soaking the model in super glue. Most of the sandy looking prints described by other commenters could be explained by this tech. Nice review, and cool printer!

[@lostartsstudios1679]

All the meta chasers going to love this. An entire ready made army please, whatever is hot this week!

[@FauxHammer]

Yep!

[@HenrySavinon]

It’s not very cost effective and it’s patented so while it’s cool, I don’t see it taking off anytime soon.

[@hargert]

@@HenrySavinon Many of the core patents are already done. I am hoping we will see this take off in the home/prosumer space in the next year or two. It will not be a slick as the 100k printers but neither were the first FDM or resin printers for home and look what we have now.

[@ccgear4367]

@@HenrySavinon It's not like 3D printing bros have ever cared about respecting intellectual property.

[@HaydnVH]

I imagine this could create a whole new medium of miniature painting; doing your "painting" digitally in Blender or some other 3D tool and then printing the colored mini.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah agreed!

[@emmamarx9284]

Even a “paint by numbers” type deal to market toward new hobbyists to get into painting would be cool. Just washed out colors and a guide to follow along too would be really fun and make it easier to bring new people into the hobby.

[@dr.swaster8763]

I remember working with Stratasys back in 2001 when we were doing prototypes for my company. It’s so awesome to see them still in the industry and pushing it forward like they always have.

[@ArtisOpus]

Great video dude, I think you missed something though: Pre-Basecoated Pre-Built minis. There's entire countries adapting gundams etc, enhancing pre painted figures, it already exists, and is a loved hobby. Are we there? Wash and highlight and good to go in 1/3 of the time. Interested on people's thoughts!

[@FauxHammer]

Oh, that’s a fantastic point!!!! Yeah. I think people would love that… agreed though. Would love to hear more people’s thoughts on this?

[@dvc1867]

I guess you'd need a resin that doesn't need to be primed?

[@AGMiniatures]

really cool tech... the clean up process is what all 3d printers need to be. great vid fauxhammer!

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks 👍

[@GotNextVideo]

There was a place at the mall last year that sold 3D printed figures based on head scans and I think it used this tech, as the prints were color and had a similar look. It's definitely cool to see and there's value for commercial applications, but the prints don't look amazing, they still have a blurry, chalky appearance, and certainly aren't any competition for a nicely hand painted piece. And I think a world where this becomes accessible and high quality at home is probably quite a long way away.

[@FauxHammer]

Oh I’d love to know what that was

[@Rcmike1234]

They were probably of a MJF or similar powder + color machine. The quality of the scans probably heavily affected the quality of the parts.

[@MrOrionpax]

I think everyone can admit that miniatures are the major driving force of making 3d printers better and better

[@shamancredible8632]

I guess all the practical engineering applications pale in comparison to printing boobies. Come to think of it, I almost agree

[@vulpinemachine]

not as big as you'd think. honestly it's the medical community. When they realized it wasn't a gimmick and they could actually do stuff with it... the amount of money they've got blows us mini folks OUT OF THE WATER by such a huge margin there's not even a sliver of a comparison.

[@johnd-m5o]

and for diy peeps

[@MrOrionpax]

@@vulpinemachine At first because thats all that could afford it. now . My point still stands true. you think they care what colour the prints are?

[@vulpinemachine]

@@MrOrionpax since aesthetics is a major part of the medical profession, I'd say DEFINITELY. Not in terms of beauty of course, but in terms of having color coded devices ready to go with no need for painting or tagging? Yeah huge demand for that!!

[@TK7837]

I tried to get my boss to buy one, £40000 he said no😭 this is a game changer with no supports needed, so printing complicated parts is amazing, and full colours also you can mix different properties, so yo can have a part that is ridged then goes flexible. This is The Way 😈💯

[@FauxHammer]

Oh, ummm, These are £90k

[@bogatyr2473]

Honestly, this is a good thing. I don't see this replacing hand painting, but for a lot of people buying a good paint job from someone then printing your ready to play army and having it arrive completely ready to go will be a good offering.

[@BumblebeeFern]

Everyone start selling off your family heirlooms 😆

[@FauxHammer]

Most would get a Mortgage before one of these!

[@Desmo904]

Fixed it for you. Everyone start selling off your family -heirlooms- 🤣😆

[@BumblebeeFern]

@@Desmo904 🤣🤣 I would certainly have more to spend on printers if it were not for the family of 7😂

[@BumblebeeFern]

@@FauxHammer I went to their site to see how much they were and started wondering how many people were chatting them during your video and asking what the true price was😂 i’m sure they got an influx of inquiries during your premier.

[@waza987]

Yes or just wait 10-20 years and they will be available as cheap as regular 3D printers now, and probably of better quality too.

[@shanematthews1985]

I think if they can make a smaller home version it might be really cool, my issue with resin printing is the curing, cleaning and disposal of leftover resin, this seems to skip a whole lot of that, sure there will still be stuff to dispose of but i imagine this basically collects it all and you just get rid of the waste container, no having to deal with waste from a washing station by hand etc, also seems like it solves the ventilation issue So a smaller home version of this, even if it were mono colour would be amazing

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

Maybe it could be simplified down to enough bays to accommodate RGB, black, and a support material in a "home" version of it.

[@blazichaos7181]

@@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034 A monotone printer with wax material would be amazing.

[@jpsmithsculpts]

This tech has been around for a few years, it's super cool. The surface quality isn't as good as resin though, it has kind of a sandy, grainly look to it, like it's made out of sugar.

[@igorchak48]

it's been more than a few years, more like 25 years.

[@StillBurningStudios]

I remember a company called Sandboxr (now defunct, closed in like 2016) used this kind of system for custom prints of characters from certain games. They were pricey (I think I paid like $90 for a 6” figure), but they looked appealing and colorwise were good. They had a clearcoat they would put over them to help darken the colors slightly and make it less grainy to touch.

[@FauxHammer]

The grain is due to us putting too much matte primer on as I was rushing to make my train

[@crafthappylife]

There are some new post processing systems offered for sale with the machines that can enhance the more natural look.

[@gabrielgarcia2536]

Nice, what would these be? I think they've released a sandblaster, but is there anything else ​@@crafthappylife Many thanks :)

[@ResinForge]

Extremely cool stuff… Hope to see this tech come down to the hobby level in a few years.

[@AndrewAHayes]

20 years is the time period for a patent to expire, but it did eventualy happen with resin and FDM printing!

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed

[@NeoIsrafil]

Omg I'd love that. I mean... we could try to do a community opensource project doing something similar I bet, just have to be different enough to not infringe the patent. Honestly if they dont come to the hobby side and they decide to sit on their patent until expiration I will be really disappointed in them. 3d printing could have come out so much sooner and makers been a thing much earlier if it werent for stupid patent shenanigans.

[@SkateSoup]

​@NeoIsrafil Stratasys are one of the major reasons that fdm and resin were stalled for home users for decades. I'm totally open to the possibility of them having a change of heart, but don't bet money on it.

[@BunkerSquirrel]

What blows me away is not only is it able to do so many colors and with such high quality, but can do so with very little waste. Outstanding!

[@shawnkuhn1700]

We have 2 J850s and run the daylights out of them. Major game changer. No more hand deco.

[@FauxHammer]

Oh wow. Yeah I think I’m I already made my super impressedness clear

[@gianhao]

Wow. Its amazing how far resin printing has come and for us to be able to experience these changes / evolution. One day people will look back and say this is obsolete tech, but today... just wow.

[@FauxHammer]

Well said!

[@charlesfowler3464]

I think it looks great. But I think the surface looks odd. Almost like it's out of focus. I still think hand painted minis are far superior. But it has a great potential for people that may not have the steadyest of hands.

[@Griphook3D]

I agree...

[@thatHARVguy]

It looks pixelated. Not smooth or polished for a final product, but good enough for a base/primer coat to be painted.

[@knightsljx]

this is what consumer resin printers needs to be to become mainstream

[@ygg1967]

Just imagine, in 10 years we might be able to do this at home. I almost can't wait for that.

[@BabyJesus66]

20 years apparently they own the patent for that long.

[@FauxHammer]

Well. Assuming nobody comes up with “similar” tech

[@Hanzi2u]

I guess not then they would probably be sued AF by Stratasys​@@FauxHammer

[@onetruetroy]

I love this video and the 3D printer. This will revolutionize miniatures and other detailed small items that look best with some color. All that’s needed is a complete 3D scanning system that also records color and reflectivity data.

[@davidwatson22]

Very interesting, love the Idea of the water dissolvable support. This reminds me way back when the office equipment company who I used to work for, got the first full colour inject printer, think it was the oliveti 8000C . Back than if you wanted any colour, you was stuck with a dot matrix printer with a 3 colour ribbon. Now we have full colour laser printers. Would be great to see this technology scaled down for domestic use , even just one colour with that support material would be a great step forward.

[@FauxHammer]

It’ll come I’m sure, with more materials too!

[@Roymantic]

this is so cool. i am painting my old world army for 4 months now, and i am nearly at hobby burnout. getting a fully painted army, ready to play at my doorstep...if its not much more expensive then a specific miniature company we all love and hate, yeah..i would get some armys

[@FauxHammer]

Well they have a 100mm model for less than £20

[@JaSvenStripwalker]

I doubt we will ever see an affordable home version BUT- this is still very cool and is indeed mind blowing - good video!

[@FauxHammer]

I hope you do! And thanks!!!

[@awesomeink]

The printer itself and how it works is revolutionary. I don't think it will hurt artists you can start a small business with one of these printers selling your Miniatures and copies of your work through a online store I'm sure the cost of it is ridiculous 30 grand or more but that wouldn't stop someone from starting a business. The number of pre colored models you could design and prototype Parts you can make it's got infinite possibilities it drives me crazy that I myself thought of a process similar to this using an inkjet printing head several years ago but I don't have the technical ability to do anything like this I thought it was a pipe dream and to see someone actually do it very similar to the way I described it blows my mind

[@ger5956]

This sounds absolutely wild 😅

[@legionact1]

Haha true

[@FauxHammer]

It is

[@scottboyer8450]

This only makes the hobby that much better. Where I might not ever use it to replace hand painted miniatures, I would absolutely use this for Terrain and Bases.

[@Xile611]

Yeh if a website doesnt list a price alot of people cant wont have this printers irs probly super expensive.

[@hargert]

What I could find online is retails for 99,000 dollars. I am waiting for this this tech to get to the sub 2k point.

[@Zuluknob]

@@hargert patents will run out in around 25 years so...

[@hargert]

@@Zuluknob You are incorrect on the patents and when they will run out. This tech has been around for many years now it was just in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many of the key patents are already expired.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah, don't worry, the video about the prints more than the printer!

[@FauxHammer]

What's the source on that price?

[@clute76]

I think you're spot on @fauxHammer. The concept of a printed resin model encased in support material that dissolves in an ultrasonic cleaner of warm water alone is something to get excited about, but factoring in a world where talented mini painters can sell duplicates of their paint schemes as an option.... that is a world I want to be in like right now, yesterday even... correct me if I am wrong, but based on the photos and videos I have seen of this technology, I think we are a couple years away from the resolution of the prints catching up to 4K printers but when it does..... even if we are talking about 4x the cost on materials... the time save and access to prolific painters or better yet, sculptors like myself being able to sell their creations with the colors they imagined to people with options to color things themselves is remarkable. Thank you again for sharing your journey and giving us a glimpse into the future.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks so much for your kind words. I’ll show more after UKGE

[@ozfunghi]

My wife has had one of these at her workplace (industry leading professional 3D printing service) for close to a year now i believe. She brought home a sample print last summer to show me (I'm also into 3D printing... at home/amateur level). EDIT: I stand corrected. I showed her this printer and she had to laugh. "That's the small one" she said. They have the J850 from Stratasys.

[@aengland]

The advancement that printer represents is amazing. Love seeing this stuff!

[@drswov]

This is a leap in 3D printing tech that I hadn't expected for at least a decade. Absolutely, amazing. The reveal of how the support material is removed was also mind blowing. This is super exciting!

[@Venser420]

Bro no offense but your whole channel is just a commercial were choosing to watch. I wouldnt worry to much lol

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah, but I have my "i won't be bought" rep to protect! becasue I will not be bought!

[@rotemzax4326]

OK quick fun question ... How much would you be willing to pay for a high-end full color, water soluble support and the whole shebang for a home printer as such?

[@lilietto1]

Today in FDM you can do 16 colors with a Bambu, taking the x1C + 4 ams and hub, for 2700€, or alternatively you can buy a Prusa XL for 5 extruders so like 4 colors and a soluble filament for around 4200€. Going by this, I think the price of what you're describing should be 5000€ or less to be considered by small business and whealty individuals or people passionate about it.

[@jabadahut50]

Really impressive results. This creates an excellent base paint coat which can speed up really high detail painting jobs... or for a lot of people... just print off the mini colored and dip it in quick shade, and you have probably fairly acceptable table quality models pretty easily.

[@LourieJacobs79]

It's insane where the technology has gone in only a few years, absolutely amazing!

[@raeishimura]

I think the support method is really interesting, and the lack of any support markings is really nice. The color option is cool, but even the one in the video has a fuzzy look, like it's out of focus. I think it's good for a quick, easy army, but i don't know think it's going to replace hand painted models. I mean, anyone can push buttons and gwt a machine to spit out a model. The ones who paint it by hand just have such incredible skills that no machine is going to be more impressive than someone who can do the job by hand

[@Zenkujo]

O_O holy poop! this is... amazing tech progress! Even if you want to paint things, printed mono and ready to paint... or colour versions and paint over it... no support lines and no mould lines... this is progress!

[@ChonkyTatzelwurm]

I'm kind of wondering how viable mass production will be in the future- the use that comes to mind first for me is board games packaged with full-color figures as game pieces.

[@anoukk_]

Mass production has never been 3dprinting's strong suit. It would be nice but 3d printing just isn't as economical on a large scale than other methods.

[@crabman823store9]

for a person how loves panting/textuering digitally having to take one of my 3d models and just print it full color is super cool cant wait till services become more common for this

[@ghosty227]

Isn't this how Heroforge do their minis? I may be completely wrong, but that sort of finish looks familiar

[@luckytenno]

I would like to see a comparison between the two

[@alexrallis5521]

I need the support technology in every 3D printer! That is amazing!!!

[@802Garage]

This is honestly extremely cool. A bit fiddly, sure, but just amazing tech.

[@DeanRockne]

What's crazy is this is just scratching the surface of what polyjet printers can do. The big brother to this can mix resins of varying hardness and color, so they can print simulated tissue that has a realistic variety of densities and stiffness. Surgeons are using them to practice operations on artificial tissue, created from scans of the patients body. Imagine getting an MRI and printing a 1 to 1 copy of your heart.

[@nidzdotnet76]

This will be the future of 3d printing. No support removal and full colour. Awesome.

[@andrewjungers2820]

Yea I really need this to come down to the hobby level. I’m a horrible painter and having all my models painted out of the printer would make my life soo easy.

[@FauxHammer]

Well. You can get painted models from it already.

[@andrewjungers2820]

@@FauxHammeryea but I’d less exciting when it’s not from my own printers. lol

[@cowchunks5120]

This is the future of resin printing. I'm so excited to see where it goes

[@OG-ProfessorFarnsworth]

That’s incredible! 😮 mind blowing! 🤯 Stratasys is keeping they’re game up! Kinda nice to see them working into the modern consumer market. This will definitely kill the old school injection molded model industry if you ask me.

[@lilietto1]

Putting injection molding against this is like saying that green is better than blue. You could produce thousands of those miniatures in hours with injection molding, for a few cents each, and each of them having a better finish than the 3d printed ones, while on this one you can do whatever you're capable of sculpting and modeling, in color, in a few hours, but it's going to be exponentially more expensive and slow.

[@DevilsBrushGaming]

Dont care what anyone really says if they cant appreciate this. This is amazing

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed

[@marcomarterer7232]

The support and print technology is amazing. I could imagine having a consumer mono color version of these in 10 years.

[@mauriespinoz]

I’m impressed by this technology, I can see the future of creativity doing many many things, or also the reproduction of famous models that today are very expensive, like in the olds days with CD’s.

[@chemicalcorrosion]

Awesome technology. About the price point. For the hobbyist, absolutely not(but I’ll continue to enjoy my hours spent painting). For a business, a worthy INVESTMENT!!

[@euansmith3699]

Cool. Another step towards Replicators. The idea of buying a mini "painted" by a Golden Demon Artist is very interesting.

[@vascodawilson]

This has got to be the coolest tech in 3D printing

[@SleepySlann]

Even ignoring the ability to colour the prints, this has some really interesting ideas. The ability to eliminate supports alone is great, but I imagine the printing process leaves less room for errors as it cleans and cures each layer as it prints.

[@scarfa21]

StrataSys is no joke. All of the printers are amazing and workhorses. I only wish I could afford one lol.

[@FauxHammer]

Same

[@TTTray13467]

Just don’t get one of their FDM printers 🙄

[@Fury9er]

Stratasys polyjets give great results, I use them at work in the dental teaching field. However they are expensive to run and maintain - colour resins are £330 each and you need two installed at a time per colour, so CMY function is going to cost £1800 ish. Basic resins and support materials are cheaper but again, two carts per material channel. So on top of the machine cost its heading for £5500 for a full set of resin. Being an insdustrial machine it is very proprietary, so you wont be modding it or getting around features you don't like. On the other hand they are fairly user-friendly, it won't take too much effort to train someone how to operate one. Servicing contracts also cost a fortune as do spares. Still, they make very nice accurate parts and nothing else can match them for versatility yet. You'd just need to start a whole business to get hold of one.

[@jamfjord]

Bloody exciting this! Even if the prices never come down enough to make the tech viable for home printing, it's still cool that we can already order full colour prints from companies that have the funds to invest in these printers. That support system too 🤯 Also, can we just take a moment to appreciate how pleasing the stratasys logo is, particularly the angle on the top of the t

[@McCartWoodworks]

Even if this was a single color it would still be a game changer. No more need for supports or cleaning and sanding.

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed

[@ErmIDK19]

Its cool for sure but for now at least well painted minis still look far better. Like if you painted a mini to that standard , would you be happy with it ?

[@FreelancerND]

Well, that is absolutely a must for something like toys or printing minis for tabletop games at masse. And most importantly, it's robust and you won't strip or scratch the paint. Quite a nice step up, really.

[@RisingApe]

I would absolutely buy full colour minis, I LOVE mini painting but not armies, games I just want to play, great video

[@FauxHammer]

Same here! Thanks for the comments the kindness and the thumbnail tips

[@TheNochess]

I have been working in this field during my masters thesis and been wondering how long it would take for this technology to get on the market. Glad its here now 😁

[@FauxHammer]

Incredible isn’t it. And this is the start!

[@Griphook3D]

I THINK its fun and rewarding to print, paint your own print creations. Plus weathering and personal touches make it yours. This is good for those who don't like 3D printing and maybe don't like painting.... if you are only an artist digital its fun to print your creation and just print it out on this machine, but to me I love painting and creating worlds of you own.

[@FauxHammer]

I agree, I love painting

[@herrlogan17]

Amazing machine! And while I am not into colour printing, the wax "support" method is stunning.

[@bigfatpig7260]

This technology seems magical! For me, the biggest drawback to 3d printing is the health risks around resin and if future 3dprinting machines can introduce this style of printing I think it would kickstart a golden age for the hobby. Plus it would make the wargaming hobby incredibly inclusive for literally anyone who can invest the money and time into these new style of machines. I know a lot of people who want to get into wargaming but won't because they don't want to paint dozens of models. Incredibly impressive stuff and I am really hoping that this technology can be brought to the general consumer at a fair price. Love the vid too btw

[@FauxHammer]

I’m looking forward to that day too. Hope I’m still covering printers then

[@ForgottenLabyrinth]

Full color would be a game changer. What kind of camera are you using for your vids, I'd like to start some vlogs for my new game store!

[@elvendragonhammer5433]

Just so you're aware there are FDM printable supports that dissolve in warm water without the need of an ultrasonic cleaner. Though for that obviously you do need a printer capable of using multi-material (unless you can be there & have the know-how to add purge/pause instructions to your code). And yes this form of printing is really interesting, but like so many others will likely never be available to the average consumer- though the tech involved could be useful in the future.

[@gregeezy]

This is amazing tech, really. Even ignoring the color tech, I would love for this tech to get into a consumer device.

[@wmbtech]

I'm guessing the texture of the print looks made of sugar because of the spray jet nature of it's construction. Everything has these scratchy grain lines from the spin of the disk and the inconsistency of the jets. It's still very impressive, but I like smooth, and I can't pretend this doesn't look like a solid sugar, food-colored wedding-cake topper with it's super grainy texture.

[@the_average_canadian]

This technology is extremely impressive, and very appealing to people like me. I love miniature wargames and 3d printing makes it very accessible for me, but I don't enjoy the painting process, it's more of a chore I try to just get over with so I can play the game. Once this tech trickles down to the hobbyist level in 5-10 years, I will absolutely be investing in it so I can spend less time painting and more time playing. Not everybody will see it this way, some people love painting and won't have any interest. More power to them, but I can't wait to get my hands on something like this.

[@theoutpost9530]

The printing technology over the colour element is most exciting to me.

[@nhahtrebor91]

My only question is if you wanted to add paint in certain areas would you have to prime it? would a varnish work?

[@MrTegidTathal]

You know, with HueForge, FDM isn't all solid colors anymore. Though not like this, more like terrain tiles. And everyone can do it. But this is very cool, especially the speed.

[@Forcemaster2000]

In 5 years, this technology will be in home printers and game over!

[@PraetorGix]

I am thoroughly impressed. As a comission painter, the color printing part not only has no use for me, it actively threatens my job in the not so distant future, though I still appreciate the technology behind that. But damn, that minimal post processing of the piece is really attractive. All in all, I hope to see home versions of this machine.

[@lilietto1]

With "new" (at least new to the masses) technology, there is always the "it will steal jobs" which is in fact partially true. We already see that in the translation industry. Specialized, high quality and certified translators and interpreters will "always" be needed, but machine and AI translations has cut deep in the pockets of thousands of small time translators and soon interpreters. But that's the way things go, I personally try and go with technology because I haven't seen in history someone who has once won against it. As a commission painter, remind yourself that art and luxury are particulars in that people put value in the process and the value of art for the sake of art more than the result. I don't know what you do specifically but if people won't commission you anymore 50 miniatures painted cause they can print them, you will still be able to make for exemple a single wonderful piece and sell it for 10 times the price cause it's hand painted by an artist. People didn't stop buying mechanical watches when quartz came around, or even better, most of the people stopped, but the mechanical industry to survive shifted toward luxury and started becoming what it is today.

[@DanielNorrisEffects]

After dissolving the support "wax" in the water, is it still a waste liquid that needs to be disposed of at a chemical waste facility or is it a solution that can just be poured down the drain? I think if this style of printing gets smaller and cheaper for home use and the support material is made harmless to the environment, then this will be the ultimate next step in the home printing world and a game changer.

[@FauxHammer]

I’m not sure what’s in the support material. I should have asked

[@TheAurgelmir]

I've been following 3D printing on and off for almost 20 years now. Many of these style printers have existed in other materials before. But it's still impressive to see. For now I think the issue is in the fidelity of the colors. It looks cool for what it is, but it doesn't look like it's the surface that's painted, like with a painted miniature. If this ever becomes available/affordable for hobbyists I'd love one though. I love painting. But I can print faster than I can paint. And I want to game faster than I can paint. I'm not huge on using miniatures to play RPGs, but part of that is: I never had painted minis to use. With something like this, I can prep for a session. Print some decent looking models. Then have a fun colorful session. Much like model kits are still being sold, and enjoyed by people - I see this as an addition to the hobby, not a replacement. (Much like that pre-painted plastic terrain that some company recently started selling.)

[@FauxHammer]

Totally fair!

[@wastanley734]

This is the coolest thing in 3d printing!

[@rishirajjaingupta]

The future of colour 3D printing

[@EmanueleC_BR]

The biggest steps here arnt the colour. Which is certainly nice. It's the fact it's got rid of the manual interaction with harmful chemicals. The fact that it can all be done (in theory) without even Gloves is incredible. By the sales images it even implies open office placement, so does that mean it's not got the fume related issues of resin printing too? If so, This is the kind of tech that could be in every home.

[@Argail8137]

This is the future!!!!❤

[@jaisonlewis]

Mimaki does this with fewer cartridges. Also, I feel the output is better with their machine. You should get your hands on that.

[@CXHo-sy1xz]

I quite like it. The ability to do multicoloured printing was recently revolutionised in the fdm world. I think this is something that'll breed a new generation of painters and or printer owners. It can give some people a chance to be inspired. Heck, my first comic con threw me on the journey. And your m3 premium video put me on to high quality printing. Imagine 10-15 years from now when it gets more and more streamlined. Also is there a way to get a mini you without going to a con? File maybe?

[@FauxHammer]

It will become available to the masses. But not for a while

[@CXHo-sy1xz]

@@FauxHammer Awesome. Can't wait to lead my Warhammer army with faux hammer

[@lawells3]

This is seriously kickass! Thank you for sharing!

[@FauxHammer]

Glad you like it!

[@GeekDetour]

As a first printer using this tech, the results are impressive. BUT, the finish is far from what I see done by artists when manually painted - it looked very Mate and the colors a bit dull.

[@FauxHammer]

That finish is on me. I had to catch my train so we covered it in half a can of spray matte varnish before I left…

[@DeshmaStars]

This is absolutely amazing and is indeed a giant leap forward for this type of printing. I cannot wait to see the trickle down of these technologies becoming more of the standard for home users!

[@FauxHammer]

Fingers crossed!