Full interview: Phil Jackson talks Chicago Bulls and coaching Luc Longley | Australian Story

Former Chicago Bulls coach Phil Jackson’s extended interview with Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s Australian Story program about starting centre Luc Longley, 2021.
Jackson talks his unique coaching style for Longley, the relationship with Michael Jordan and how Longley needed was a ‘fish out of water’ when he first joined the NBA.
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0:06 Summarise for us the trajectory of the Chicago Bulls in the 1990s
03:36 When did you first become aware of Luc Longley and what did you think of him?
08:04 How did Luc Longley fit in as a Bulls teammate?
09:44 What was your coaching style with Longley?
13:45 How did Longley and Dennis Rodman work together on the court? 15:33 What about off the court?
16:10 How would you sum up Longley's contribution to the Bulls? 19:32 Why do yu think Longley was left out of 'The Last Dance'?
Credit list
Interview: Australian Story
Producer: Caitlin Shea
Vision: NBA, Australian Story, Getty Images, Reuters, 60 Minutes, Nine Network, University of New Mexico
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[@ABCNewsIndepth]

Check out our full interview with Scottie Pippen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipqWmWuNas-En9U

[@blackcat4859]

Thanks so much. Would love to also see the Steve Kerr interview.

[@Routes_there_and_back_again]

@5:57 edit woopsie

[@theprinceoftides6836]

Luc knew his role at the Bulls and played it perfectly. In a team sport like basketball a guy like him is crucial. Result: multiple Rings, multiple Championships and a member of arguably the greatest Dynasty in sport. He's a humble Aussie who's done very well.

[@at1212b]

Highly underrated. He would kill it in today's game.

[@kkbaby30]

I love how honest Phil is. Just tells it like it is, favorable or not. Great interview.

[@terry4898]

Toni Kukoc was barely mentioned in The Last Dance either. He played a significant role on those championship teams.

[@johndavesco]

they spent a large amount of time talking about his 2 games against the Dream Team

[@conditionallyunconditional5691]

America shall never forgetLluc Longley! We love him!

[@GaryFox11000]

Phil Jackson - is an incredible communicator ! Fantastic getting all the personalities to play as a great basketball team ! 🏀😃🎷

[@scottipippen6554]

He is. But he made a big mistake by taking the GM role in New York, where he failed big time. Kind of left a shadow on his legacy. A small one, though..

[@irockice4956]

Phil and Mj never give interviews anymore. The fact that they both came out to speak about Luc shows a tremendous amount of respect.

[@inallairness]

Great to see the full interview. Adds considerable nuance and he's so well spoken. Thanks.

[@bowtieguy377]

I am happy that Luc is now getting some coverage for his contributions to the Bulls success. He was a fine center and a good fit with the Bulls for what they needed at that time.

[@aaronharris5069]

Phil Jackson, the Zen Master. No one like him. Would run through a wall for this guy! ❤️🖤🔥

[@beedatrottv8708]

Phil is totally a great coach, with the way he talks about his team he takes pride in it, now i understand why he pick mike over kobe

[@joshuadevaney9240]

Phils interview and insight truly adds much more weight and value than scotties one...........

[@bagbroch9339]

Neither add any weight to anything. Sad hangers on.

[@joshuadevaney9240]

@@bagbroch9339 and you are???? Haha

[@JudeUgwuegbulam]

Seemed to add context - for example, Scottie said Mike “was a horrible teammate”. I wonder if this was after the murder of Mike’s father? Coach Phil said, Mike was away from the main group, and was security conscious....Interesting. Now, I’m not suggesting that Scottie’s rants are legit. However, I get a sense of someone is hurting real bad. Such a shame.

[@Shards7800]

Love Phil

[@wtorres562]

They should mention Tony kukoc who stepped into the game when Scott Pipen was in the process to gave the Bulls Management a hard time do to his present contract.

[@combatkiller7881]

Yeah, exactly like what Phil said, "Its great to see this network do its own doco about Luc Longley" To add to that though, it was very hard for a great player to get noticed in the 90's when there were just way too many superstars in that era, as there were other players on the bulls team that didnt get much spotlight in the doco, i believe it shouldnt of been a 6 part doco, it should of been at least as long as it needed to be, just to give a shout out to all those other players as well that were on the bulls team. I am just proud that an Aussie like Luc Longley got to represent Australia on a legendary NBA team for the ages!!!! If you ever read this message Luc, dont worry mate you are always remembered in my family and what you did for the bulls. Its just so funny that im perhaps the only biggest NBA fan of the Chicago Bulls, but when ever they get brought up in a convo, my family members that dont even follow B-Ball or the NBA still always like to bring up the fact that an Aussie named Luc Longley played with Michael Jordan and the Bulls! Cheers,

[@jguinto101]

Well said mate❤

[@brandonrhymez2961]

6 part?? There was 10 episodes

[@combatkiller7881]

nah it was Luc Longley one personal show, i think ABC did it for him. you can youtube it its for free to watch. @@brandonrhymez2961

[@dinglbarry1275]

I especially like the music they play in between the questions

[@stevehall3410]

Awesome interview, always liked Phil Jackson

[@terryjohnson1376]

Excellent interview

[@The2ndFirst]

He says it so clearly. "If you cant do the job I will find somone else who can.

[@dereksupernaut]

Luc Longley for Stacey King was a steal of a trade as King had ZERO value as a scoring bigman (low FG% WITH Turnovers!!!) while Luc was deceptively valuable as he excelled at nothing but also had no holes which is rare for a non-star bigman... nice combination of size and skill... fax!!!

[@lastman4853]

Interesting comments about the triangle. Luc fit right into this system because he's a good passer. In todays game he would be obsolete unless he had a 3pt shot.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

He already had a jumpshot. And as Brook Lopez and Serge Ibaka have proven, going from strictly inside to shooting threes isn't that hard.

[@shaundonaghy9476]

Brilliant..

[@jason_nerdlife9149]

Very insightful interview

[@johnaugsburger6192]

Thanks, that was good.

[@beatlemike9]

Great interview and thank you!

[@mikemcgrath6150]

Always liked listening to Jackson. Thoughtful guy, not ur typical high frantic energy type u see alot w coaches. Doesn't seem hes mad at pippen for calling him a racist. Probably sees him like a knucklehead kid who couldn't understand why daddy wouldn't let him have cookies for dinner.

[@BestxInTheWorld]

Jerry Krause wanted to make sure Phil led Bryant and O’Neal to a championship or three in a row.

[@LandscapeLoopIDN]

Luuuuuuc🏆🏆🏆

[@ABCNewsIndepth]

Watch the full Australian Story documentary One Giant Leap here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4Sah3mCbsiLis0

[@arpxdagoodone]

8:11 I always love this footage when I see it. Black and white teammates must have loved each other... XD

[@JrJVintage1956]

as Scottie used to say "Luc wasn't the kind of guy to knock you down, he would pick you up." Just to clarify Phil, Hoosiers was an hour and a half movie The Last Dance was like 10 movies.... 10 minutes to mention the starting center for the last 3 championships and the first Australian in the NBA wouldn't have screwed up the story line.... it would have made it more interesting to .. everybody!

[@Shir_Hadash]

During the championships, the Bulls used a lot of bodies at center - Stacy King, Will Perdue, Bill Wennington - but only two really stood out as complete two-way players: Bill Cartwright and Luc Longley. Both were good defenders, good shooters, good in the post, strong, physical, smart team players and fine passers. Cartwright was the better overall player, but he just got too old. By 1993, he really couldn't do as much as before. Luc had the size and skills to be more dominant than he was. He seemed to prefer being a role player. I think that's the reason M.J. was so critical of Luc both then and now. Luc had the capacity to be more dominant than he was. He wasn't going to ever me Olajuwan, Shaq, Robinson or Ewing, but he really did have the capacity to be a good as Vlade Divac, Brad Dougherty, Dikembe Mutombo or even Alonso Mourning. The fact that he never achieved that level is really unfortunate.

[@AnHebrewChild]

Correction *69 wins the year after the 72 win season 1:45

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

i caught that too

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

the last game of the season the let the knicks beat them on a last second patrick ewing lucky heave off the glass ... i wanted them to win 70 in back to back seasons ...

[@lxpang]

Please post the full interview with Steve Kerr.

[@ABCNewsIndepth]

We haven't posted Steve Kerr, but we have posted Scottie Pippen! Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipqWmWuNas-En9U

[@DwainDwight]

I didn't watch the Last Dance because of the lack of footage with Luc. I am still appalled. He was their starting center ffs. and a good one.

[@bagbroch9339]

Is Zaza Pachulia a big deal? Haha Foh

[@juniorjunior4087]

Last dance was a doc of jordan. He wasnt mentioned much but jordan acknowledge him in an interview. Luc played his role. Hes blessed jordan presnted him a ring

[@Routes_there_and_back_again]

@5:57 oof! Always proof your edits! Haha

[@elizabethcorrea5179]

❤

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

They actually won 55 games.

[@simonsadlier6170]

Phil is a honest dude.

[@robertjohnmarcella263]

did a good job in New York

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

no one does a good a job in ny ...we see now that it was not jackson who messed things up

[@benjaminparkinson5255]

Why is Luke always forgotten

[@christunnock2719]

Minnesota Timberwolves have never recovered from losing Longley and Heal and Isaiah Rider

[@kingarchnyc]

1:46 68 w/o Dennis Rodman! 🤦‍♂️

[@jayzee316]

phil definitely shot taking at warriors 73-9 season but choked the chip

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

well like he said the bulls had to play 4 games in 5 nights sometimes... by the time the warriors had that run those days were over ...at most they would play a few back to backs but never 4 in 5 nights so there was never a doubt as to who is the greatest team of all time

[@mike1225917]

Facts, you can go 82-0 and lose in the finals, it means nothing

[@pheeel17]

His comment has nothing to do with the Warriors. You probably weren't alive in 1996 but the mantra that entire year was "70 don't mean a thing without the ring".

[@juniorjunior4087]

4 games in 5 night

[@tukiluka]

I’m all for the Luc-love, but as someone who watched basketball closely in the 90s… especially the Bulls… I can’t say that Luc deserved as much attention as he’s gotten post-documentary. Ron Harper? Toni Kukoc? I’d give either of them more attention before calling on Luc…

[@x-man9473]

Kukoc was already in the Last Dance. Ron Harper has speech issues. So it makes sense that the next in line would be there starting center Luc Longley.

[@highlanderc]

los piratas de quebradillas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pnc23]

Phil didn't get Luc.

[@rabball]

5:57 pippen???????

[@benjaminpadilla4857]

And they're telling us that Pippen can't carry the Bulls without Jordan . They had 57 wins without Jordan

[@mathias4851]

Lol no ring dude

[@kkbaby30]

I doubt you watched ball back then or know about all the acquisitions the Bulls made before the 93-94 season to make that supporting cast far stronger than the 92-93 team outside of MJ

[@juniorjunior4087]

He couldnt. Pippen aint a leader. Hes weak. Look at the teams he pkayed with .blazers, rockets. Jordan made pippen.

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

55 games, but yeah, he was phenomenal during the '94 and '95 seasons. That '94 team was flat out robbed of a series win over New York and a likely trip to the finals considering they would have had home court advantage over Indiana. I remember that phantom foul call like it was yesterday.

[@jgpsalm23]

@@kkbaby30that is correct. For example that was Toni Kukocs first year with the bulls who won the euro league mvp. Also I think that year all the players who played with Michael played harder that year he left to prove themselves without Michael. The big dog left and everyone had a mentality that they wanted to step up and prove what they could do without him.

[@eugeniocaetano5803]

MJ-> Michael Jackson, i mean "Michael" Jordan and Phil "Jackson"

[@danielthomson4462]

Phil Jackson is the real reason why the Bulls fell apart if you do your research. He manipulated a lot of people including MJ and the whole last dance idea which was his way of dividing the team against management. What he did to assistant coach Johnny Bach was downright cruel. Interesting, MJ flew Bach to his hall of fame ceremony while Jackson watched from home. He was also a major contributor to The Jordan Rules book by Sam Smith which says it all...

[@moneyball647]

Wha did he do to Joh. Bach?

[@nickvlahos7072]

🙄

[@jso19801980]

really embarassing that all we care about are australian athletes in the nba. if he was good enough he would've been mentioned on his own merit

[@avieus]

Here’s a very clear-cut cause-and-effect relationship in the NBA: No MJ, no championship.

[@Godteam3]

Nice hes spoiled didnt score a point but got 11 rings laziest coach of all time lol

[@MountainMan.]

Annoying transition music

[@bagbroch9339]

Phil’s back??? Why?? Dude tryna get in on that sweet sweet VC basketball team owners money haha Edit: my bad. Thought this was the real abc, not the Australian one. Nobody cares man. Stop tryna overplay your role, australia. Some country with no control over its military or economic decisions. Just floating around waiting for usa and Germany to tell you what to do. Be happy about having a great life down there. Calm down. Some patronizing interview tryna make you feel good about your role player. This is like getting Steve Kerr to go to Georgia to talk about Zaza Pachulia. You people still don’t understand empire dynamics in 2023?? Lmao

[@jguinto101]

Tbh, mate, I don't know what flavour drink you are taking, but I'm trying to decipher what you are saying. If you don't like the video, that cool. Live and let live we always say.😊

[@jguinto101]

Tbh, mate, I don't know what flavour drink you are taking, but I'm trying to decipher what you are saying. If you don't like the video, that cool. Live and let live we always say.😊

[@stevo60120]

I'm from Chicago...its Luc Longley...no one cares...

[@lancelotyu1638]

betcha you'll do anything to repeat those glory years of the 90s.

[@keen7]

You also looted and burned your own city.

[@stevo60120]

@@c.o.d.y.langton Didn't watch...just commented

[@stevo60120]

@@lancelotyu1638 Indeed...you should have been there Buddy!

[@stevo60120]

@@c.o.d.y.langton I would consider myself more of a Goofy Edomite prognosticator...but I do consider myself a 'pro' at it, Buddy...

[@michaeljordanfansaretheworst]

Michael Jordan fans are the worst sports fans of all time .

[@vincentallen1318]

Nope. LeBron fans are the worst.

[@juniorjunior4087]

Yep, because what rhey say hurts.

[@shaftlamer]

30 years later australia is still harping on over longley😂

[@jguinto101]

Well, until Ben Simmons starts performing, then we can talk about him.😅