Michael Jordan talks Luc Longley, Chicago Bulls, The Last Dance | Full interview | Australian Story

NBA Hall of Famer Michael Jordan full interview with ABC's Australian Story. You won’t believe MJ’s response when he was told 1994-1998 Chicago Bulls starting centre Luc Longley thought his leadership was “carnivorous”!
👉 Michael Jordan was interviewed for the Australian Story documentary about Luc Longley called One Giant Leap
Part 1: bit.ly/3ijOqPS
Part 2: bit.ly/3CxpXOX
Interview by Australian Story executive producer Caitlin Shea.
Subscribe: bit.ly/3nO2CDi
0:00 Q: When you returned to the Bulls after playing baseball there were some news guys on the team, including Luc Longley. What did you think about Luc at that stage?
02:04 Q: Do you think Luc was ready? Did you think he had what it took to work with you to win a championship again?
03:35 Q: So what sort of skills did he need to develop and was it skills or attitude or both?
04:28 Q: Luc was the first Australian in the NBA, what did you think of his Australian-ness?
06:51 Q: What did you think were Luc's strengths and what did you think Luc's weaknesses were?
08:59 Q: Were there times that you were aware that Luc was finding some of your criticisms quite tough?
13:38 Q: Luc Longely and struggles with consistency.
22:49 Q: Luc Longley's omission from The Last Dance.
24:01 Q: Luc describes your leadership style as carnivorous. What do you think about that?
25:12 Q: Post-retirement struggles for both Longley and Jordan
27:38 Q: Was it sad to say goodbye to your teammates like Luc once Chicago Bulls and that team were no more?
29:44 Q: Why did you agree to take time out of your schedule for Luc, to do this interview for Luc?
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[@ABCNewsIndepth]

👉 Watch the Australian Story documentary Luc Longley: One Giant Leap Part 1: bit.ly/3ijOqPS Part 2: bit.ly/3CxpXOX

[@dirtycultureclothing4543]

What a great doco that was. Luc an absolute legend. Definitely needs to be on tv aswell. All of Australia needs to see this

[@brentmonkhouse6638]

Can you put up the scottie pippen interview?? Please

[@deejay824do]

Thank you for this documentary. Luc Longley deserves his contribution to be known.

[@billyakalo5432]

Can you please upload Phil Jackson’s interview please?

[@Lupi33z]

@@brentmonkhouse6638 its 3 hours long. ...and there's no more content than what was in the doco 😂

[@giorginozadze3230]

MJ doing 30-minute interview just for Luc shows how much respect he has for him

[@icrazieelliotgamer7338]

NEVER BE ANOTHER JORDEN EVER🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀 G O A T 100%

[@TupacNation]

Yes I love that, he's a great guy, so is Luc we love him here in Australia also MJ the goat he is loved greatly here, MJ is the reason I'm a lifetime Bulls fan. Can't wait for the upcoming season with us getting Lonzo Ball & Demar Derozen.

[@killswitchfuzzy]

He took it personal when Netflix omitted Luc from The Last Dance, so this is his classic MJ instant revenge... for Luc

[@_JudgeDredd]

✊🏿

[@pdgutierrez8784]

@@killswitchfuzzy This presentation had to be made, for Luc. Longley was a good center. He could shoot, he could rebound. Luc was just a good fella. The other teams were trying to beat you every single night. You had to be consistent. That is why teams do not repeat in sports. Teams take a shot at you because are number 1. They measure their performance against you, the world champions!

[@johndiaz155]

Luc: “Mike will never sit down for an interview about me....” MJ: “And I took that personally....”

[@increasedrazer1011]

lmao

[@paytwoyaj8332]

Lol 😂

[@djpapeleta360]

I scrolled all the way down surprised no one made a "took it personally" joke until I found it. Every Jordan video now has this played out joke.

[@chrisdperez786]

Lmao

[@joshuawall253]

Hahaha

[@RushNZ]

The greatest athlete of all time doing a 30 minute interview just about you, congrats Luc, you're a legend mate.

[@la8pv737]

To call him the greatest athlete of all time, is blasphemy, and utterly disgusting. He barely enters the top 10. On my list he is waaaaay, waaaay down there. Around 50 maybe. After all, were talking about a small sport, that not many care about.

[@johnmoates7188]

@@la8pv737 your just a hater. Mike is the 🐐

[@declaninc]

@MidnightCaller it was a small sport before Jordan. It certainly isn't anymore, it's arguably the 2nd biggest sport in the world.

[@declaninc]

@MidnightCaller Basketball is the 2nd biggest sport in the world right now in terms of how widespread its played

[@henryvandersluis8913]

@MidnightCaller pipe down no one cares about your opinion.

[@onyeilonyeil9468]

She's a REAL GOOD interviewer, she didn't interrupt him once in 32 mins.

[@j-short5431]

A good interviewer pushes you and challenges you

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@j-short5431But also listens to you. Why ask someone one or more questions if you aren’t going to listen to what they have to say?

[@redesignedlife777]

@@j-short5431lol. She knows he takes things personally. Let him talk

[@ahogg5960]

Happened over Zoom during COVID. Couldn't really interrupt him much.

[@matthewlin2501]

Also with that sweet Aussie accent❤

[@Ashotjan]

"He matters to me." That's such a great thing to say about another person. Well done, MJ.

[@ladylynnmaree]

But didn’t matter enough to be in his documentary. MJ is making up for his neglect.

[@SolosoloAfaluko]

@@ladylynnmaree 'The Last Dance' was Not Jordan's documentary.

[@bladebrown4191]

​@@ladylynnmaree It was 10 parts. You know who else wasn't highlighted? Ron Harper, one of his closest friends on that team, and someone considered to be 1a to MJ earlier in their careers. Every single guy mattered, regardless of their place in a documentary.

[@brianmorris2847]

I am shocked and I love this.Mike is an unreal winner but he has respect.

[@lh2823]

@@ladylynnmaree the guy who made the doc said the reason longley wasnt in the doc was for budgetary reasons

[@eddie2336]

I hate to say it and sound like an old guy, but I just can’t resist: listening to MJ talk is soooooo much more interesting than watching today’s games. His level of intensity (even now), being authentic, being genuine, being able to articulate himself in such an honest, intellectual, interesting and engaging ways just draws you to him. Combine that with everything he accomplished and the way he did it - it’s almost not fair that all these qualities are combined in a single person.

[@pcm2fchris]

Word bro.

[@YourSoleIsMine]

Though I agree wholeheartedly with this comment I'm not going to like purely for the sake of keeping the number at 23.

[@eddie2336]

@@YourSoleIsMine Nice!!! Lol…took me a second! Lol

[@UnknownUnknown-hg7xg]

I stopped watching the NBA after Kobe retired….the game now is nowhere as competitive or intense.

[@joeykhan4703]

Shut up old man

[@littlelegfred]

Sometimes Michael says things that comes off arrogant or egotistical but every single time he explains it, it's always logical and works toward the greater goal; winning. I respect this man, he is literally the epitome of confidence.

[@tahitiantreatskeetjuice23]

its not about Michael coming off arrogant, its more so your mind attaching that to him, and whoever else u attach the label to

[@johnbalanrad1287]

You used the semi colon wrong. You should've used a colon.

[@mgpanther81]

I couldn't agree with you more!

[@LADYDIVAful]

EXACTLY!!! I never saw "arrogance", I'd always seen CONFIDENCE on a myriad of levels!

[@PETERODZZ]

Did you say arrogant and egotistical. I don't see it.

[@corrsports]

His laugh after hearing Luc call his leadership style “carnivorous” is priceless! MJ absolutely loved that!

[@glenscholes9213]

Ha I loved that too. He really got off on that so Luc was on the money

[@jasonyoung7635]

never seen MJ single interview for 30 mins for someone else . it means something.

[@48tilt]

Like an apology.

[@Joseph-lz5er]

Yes it means, he is just promoting his Jordan brand in Australia. Australians buy shoes too lol.

[@orangeninja912]

@@Joseph-lz5er so do Republicans 🤣🤣🤣

[@Joseph-lz5er]

@@orangeninja912 Jordan realized when he excluded Luc in his documentary he was losing millions of buyers from Aus, hence this interview. Jordan / business man lol.

[@jake567100]

@@Joseph-lz5er literally nobody in Australia wears Jordan’s. Before or after this interview lol

[@supernatural653]

Luc may have not been featured in the Last Dance but this is a higher honor.

[@suhailbermi234]

Absolutely

[@brendagray3374]

Yes coming from the GOAT 🐐

[@mikejames1804]

Not really

[@brendagray3374]

@@mikejames1804 yes really 😊

[@deafboricua21]

@@mikejames1804 yes really.

[@WalkerOne]

"Winning has a price." I love this quote.

[@martinmachore5334]

when Michael says "I wanted them to understand what it took to win" it means that he knows he can't win alone. GOAT

[@analoguecity3454]

YES! Being G.O.A.T is more than just skills!

[@innosanto]

He knows because he didnt. Pippen was crucial to come

[@christophersmith8316]

At one point in his career they let go everyone else on the team and he averaged 40 points a game. Wasn't enough to win, so he knew they needed other tools.

[@dylanlanzuela7305]

@@innosanto nah. He knows because that's what Dean Smith taught him. That's what Bob Knight taught him. MJ was an NCAA champ and an Olympic gold medalist before he entered the NBA. He knew how to win on the biggest stage.

[@iishyxvietxboyii1]

It’s a team game.

[@timetraveler95]

The “GOAT” debate is so much more than rings or stats. It’s intangibles, nuances, aura, impact, mentality, artistry, context, etc. It just baffles me how people could possibly think anyone is better than this man.

[@8CSKN8]

Hard to explain that to someone who didn't grow up watching MJ. People don't realise how huge his global popularity was in an age when the internet and social media did not exist

[@atomsk1972]

There are a lot of good cases for the GOAT. Watch Clayton Crawley's making the case videos here on KZbin. I grew up with MJ, but I know there are other educated opinions that also make sense. Anyway, the GOAT conversation can never be proven or won.

[@detroitcity27]

@@atomsk1972 you cant speak every again

[@judah6152]

100

[@clintmcneil6576]

@@8CSKN8 exactly gee mj is considered the greatest everrrrrrrr GLOBALLY BY THE MAJORITY NO DEBATE GEE

[@acuman99.9]

One of the things I like about MJ is that he almost never talks about skills or strategy when it comes to pursuing the top. He is so set on mentality. He really believes that the mind is the most important thing in the pursuit of excellence and I love that becsuse I feel like it's a lost concept nowadays even beyond sports and its so cool to hear a person who is the greatest ever at what they did validate that the mind is what you need to overcome things more than anything else.

[@toogoat9293]

There is alot of players in the NBA who could learn from that

[@shinglesshingles]

Original Mamba Mentality

[@kbwerks6592]

This is what people do t see when they talk about goat in the nba. This is why is undisputably the goat.

[@jasonlim7427]

that separates him from being goat. He never got scared of missing a shot

[@godroxreign]

@@shinglesshingles nope, originally it's black jesus mentality and evolved into mamba mentality.. Lol peace

[@mrrilz11]

"He matters to me!" Beautiful quote...

[@dominiquejones3805]

He said Luc helped him grow as a person

[@Jackholiday1025]

@@dominiquejones3805and Micheal helped luc grow as a person as well. That’s the mark of a good friends and good teammates.

[@matthewlin2501]

MJ is so genuine as a person just like he was as a player, very inspirational.

[@joncatv]

MJ's thought organization is really impressive. He can express himself well, his choice of words is engaging and everything he says makes perfect sense. He knows exactly what to do from the very beginning and he still remembers every detail even though that happened 20+ years ago.

[@HenrySpeir]

The is really an underrated comment/observation but spot on!

[@ferguson077]

u nailed it

[@innosanto]

This is one of reasons he was the player he was

[@WeKnowTheDifference]

He's an Aquarius

[@sambbk7203]

Yeah his understanding and appreciation of personality types and what we can gain from contrast is, great interview.

[@kanem5081]

I could listen to Michael Jordan or Phil Jackson talk about the Chicago Bulls for hours and hours. The Last Dance, was not long enough.

[@yowie369]

@J Gnot sure why you would comment that here, but soccer players diving and acting hurt is so lame.

[@PaulchenPlauder]

@J G and nobody asked...

[@mikecatterson1]

@J G: Lithuanians and many Eastern Europeans disagree with you. And the Chinese. Also wtf you saying that here?

[@apparmor4976]

@J G that only prove that 240 countries are stupidest then the other 40 :)

[@Paco_Avila27]

Boring to watch. So slow unlike basketball there's a possible goal every possession. Soccer is well played more because it is cheap to play and can be played wherever.

[@00Mindi00]

This was MASSIVE of Michael to do this. You don't see him do this sort of thing for a lot of people. Says a lot about how genuine Luc is.

[@logicaldude3611]

We're talking about a guy who is probably a billionaire with hundreds of things on his schedule day to day, and he's sitting down for 30 minutes talking about Luc Longley (that's only the portion we see, the whole thing probably took hours to set up and complete).

[@quentincassell840]

@@logicaldude3611 MJ is a billionaire not probably

[@chestertam2348]

He wasn't featured in last dance think my repaying it back to the luc

[@urbanfarmertoronto]

@@quentincassell840$1.6 Billion as of 2020

[@jasonn4798]

Luc Longley what a legend lol 😆

[@MrTbraida23]

His recollection of moments that occurred 25 years ago down to the minor details is amazing!

[@BigBaller501]

Except that the whole Jazz story doesn't fit. They played the Jazz twice that year in the regular season and Scottie played in both games and Luc had a total of 2 blocks in both games.

[@bobhey4969]

Not really he was 30 then it’s like asking an 80 year old yo remover there 40s ofc they remember

[@TheSands83]

@@BigBaller501Scottie got hurt in that game didn’t play the whole game

[@dtrainmclean4867]

Michael Jordan...the GOAT

[@luisquezada7394]

The World needs a Jordan podcast

[@tobyncummins]

Imagine that!.. "And then it became personal"

[@WavyyyErikk]

Imagine Mike in JRE or Hotboxing with mike tyson

[@ejquilala]

imagine him and kobe(may god rest his soul) on a debate show. for sure skip bayless and stephen a smith will go home packing. lol

[@peterbedford449]

@@bensytaccount Yeah exclusivity creates mystery.

[@chaddotdot5469]

@@bensytaccount I didn't want to say it but LeBum is a billionaire too 😂😂😂

[@Johnny_Thunder]

She asked great questions and just let him speak. Perfect.

[@ThaDreamMerchant]

I wish more interviewers were like that. It's about them, not you.

[@robgoose]

YES. She arrived prepared, asked questions that were about Luc. But cleverly asked about Jordan's retirement in the context of Luc's post-pro struggles. And had the class and good sense not to bring up meaningless controversies.

[@CuriusOdus11]

@J G What the hell is wrong with you? You're in every thread with this rubbish lol

[@Praying_ManTas]

I kind of felt like every question was just a variant of “can you say something good about Luc?” . I started to cringe after a while

[@robgoose]

@@Praying_ManTas It's a documentary *about* Luc and your feelings are wrong.

[@mikeodonnell1324]

For MJ to even admit his faults as leader or the role he had to play to bring guys like Luc along is a huge credit to Luc as human. MJ does not say nice things by accident or if he doesn’t mean it. Great interview

[@KidFresh71]

The Last Dance is such a masterpiece in documentary filmmaking, and I love the additional Luc content. In my life I'll never see another team like the MJ-led Chicago Bulls!

[@iwineverygame1995]

This has nothing to do with The Last Dance, it was added to the title for clout. No biggie though, Jordan taught a generation how to win at anything. All we have to do is listen and watch.

[@WalkerOne]

Yes one of the few documentaries that i didn't want to miss 1 min.

[@WalkerOne]

@J G ok?

[@nickenchuggets2699]

@J G fascinating, but why are you posting this here?

[@prilljazzatlanta5070]

@J G and?

[@paulocanlas6311]

Props to the interviewer for asking good open questions - allowing MJ to elaborate and provide stories.

[@timpower4922]

Extremely strong interview.

[@Niuway44]

MJs time is worth dollars, and with this interview he just showed the upmost respect for luc.

[@thebottman1]

"Utmost". You're not Kali Muscle, are you? XD

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

Well said. When I saw that thumbnail plus running time my click finger was trembling.

[@joshuapaladini1507]

Jordan never failed to recognize the contributions of his teammates. You can really feel the gratitude he has for everyone who played hard and contributed to his goal of being the best.

[@micsunday14]

I think Luc being left off of the last dance has been somewhat rectified with this. Kudos to Jordan. I have amazing memories being a 16 year old watching The last dance season. Just beautiful

[@stevenglock]

Not just upmost, but also utmost

[@16-bitpower38]

Michael Jordan is THE reason I had MOSTLY A grades in college from 2000 to 2003 (I graduated in 3 years instead of 4). I watched his performance and modeled his dominance and continue to do so today at my job. his flu game had a MASSIVE impact on my behavior and mindset in life. he will never know it either! :(

[@tuko5717]

Food poison game

[@thalessilva1]

Your job now is to become so successful that one day you will be able to meet him personally and im pretty sure that by you winning you would be thanking him

[@MarvinNicholson823]

​@@tuko5717riiìiiìght

[@hoopsgaloretv8306]

Wow thats amazing. Graduating in 3 years? Thats crazy. Ya I ALWAYS think about that food poisining game whenever im trying to accomplish things. I sometimes go on youtube to watch that game to re- inspire myself.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Jordan was one of the top inspirations to the Millennial generation. We were very fortunate to have had the opportunity to see him play the game of basketball and win six championships in the form of two historic three-peats in eight years all while being very philosophical and determined never to let anything or anybody stand in his way of success each and every year no matter what the obstacles. I too model Jordanesque values in my jobs and when I was in school also. Michael Jordan was a role model not only in basketball but also in life! ❤

[@jonathanvelasquez4317]

Fact that Luc is going on a Bull ISh tour against MJ is so wild after listening to this interview. Man takes accountability and spoke well about Luc.

[@jason_nerdlife9149]

I went to the no bull tour Melbourne show. Luc didn't bury michael or say anything negative about him. An neither did Scottie pippen they were all nothing but humble.

[@zepherscotty]

The way MJ speaks of him. It certainly would be upsetting if Luc actually went on the tour and bashed him.

[@WeCube1898]

Luc was there to keep an eye on Pipp and Grant 😅

[@kratoscallofduty]

"There's no way I'd leave him off my team." That's huge coming from the GOAT.

[@pullyourluck]

exactly what you said on both fronts. MJ is the GOAT. Grew up in chicago during the bulls dynasty. Plus being a massive fan of playing/watching the game. What a great time to be alive for sure.....

[@chriswebster24]

Wilt Chamberlain didn’t say that, though.

[@cinegabweb]

@@chriswebster24 Nobody said he did...

[@pistolpete8231]

Exactly, especially towards some bum who averaged 2.3 ppg

[@Praying_ManTas]

I think the question is, for a lot of his answers, the whole point of this interview was to throw Luc a bone and say some nice shit about him, how genuine is he being?

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Underneath his all-out competitive nature, Jordan is a genuine person with a lot of intellect and heart.

[@TupacNation]

Totally as he said he didn't necessarily like being the way he had to be but that's the thing he had to be like that cause if not it meant they more then likely wouldn't have been as successful as they were.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@TupacNation Yep!

[@aussiegerrard]

@Hi-Tech292 That's not true.

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

Just a country boy

[@homoerectus744]

Very insightful.not a typical interview,he dug into himself to not give complimentary answers.he sounded like a caring father.

[@jdog34505]

This interview is one of reasons why he’s my all time favorite NBA player!

[@cloudreaver]

I’m not even a basketball fan, but Michael has a way with words that keeps me engaged in his conversation 😳

[@stuartdamon3610]

Obviously Michael has a soft spot for Luc. He doesn’t do stuff like this, and in some ways it’s even more significant that Air wanted to make sure Luc was recognized. It’s called RESPECT.

[@rick188888]

And leadership.

[@Sin-tc4mi]

Or is guilt

[@ceerivers7774]

Mike has no basketball guilt. He just has respect.

[@mr.smithgnrsmith7808]

Right on

[@poerava]

It’s called fear. Luc would have thumped him.

[@tiagopinto365]

Michael was actually enjoying talking about Luc and reminiscing about the Bulls time together!! that laugh and the why: because Luc matters says it all😁

[@baka825]

I remember one of the videos I saw a long time ago, it was MJ chewing up Luc for his misassignment in the game, MJ was furious at Luc on their way back to the bench, but as they came out of the timeout, MJ told Luc that they needed him to win. That's leadership. Luc was not just a pawn in their championships run. He was a core piece.

[@yowhatsmyname]

He wanted to teach him to dominate. He led by example.

[@almitchell8187]

What a great interview. Being an Aussie and not really knowing much about Micheal Jordan but his legacy, I’m blown away by his complete honesty and respect for Luc. As you Americans keep saying, he is the GOAT!

[@dominiquejones3805]

Pay attention 2 how Mike says he changed his hard leadership on Luc. He said Luc helped him grow as a person

[@RobertBrown-do7dv]

The ultimate warrior. Undoubtedly the greatest athletic competitor ever. This guy is so much more intelligent than we know. Heavy is the head that wears the crown!

[@anthonysinclair4114]

Spot on

[@KC-mv3fq]

MJ is all smiles a very rare interview for Aussies to get...from the goat

[@howequalspeace]

Everything MJ says you can tell it's coming from the heart and soul. The guy is a lion.

[@jmt9185]

This was a great interview. I respect MJ even more for doing this interview. The most compelling part of this interview for me was when MJ said Luc "mattered." That was really impactful for MJ to say that, and it makes me appreciate him more.

[@youngbae5187]

MJ always give great interviews. He just doesn't do many of them. There's a reason why whenever he does an interview, people make great memes out of it, because they're impactful. MJ crying meme, MJ taking it personally meme, MJ laughing at Gary Payton meme etc.

[@frankjaegar1805]

"there isnt a game i wouldnt have luc longley on my team" Thats the greatest compliment you can ever receive from the goat!!!

[@arpxdagoodone]

And the greatest lie to not lose your business in a whole continent.

[@chickhearn4ever779]

@@arpxdagoodone everyone knows its you, kltuchsports posse

[@arpxdagoodone]

@@chickhearn4ever779 whuttt?

[@jeffro1074]

​@arpxdagoodone you literally come on here to be a hater in the comments .. Jordan has respect. Maybe you should get some

[@Subotai111]

To get MJ to give a 30 MIN interview is hard enough nowadays but to have him talk about someone else the entire time ...now that is special! Luke must have been a great teammate!

[@da11king]

💰 💰💰💰😎

[@vijays6911]

luc

[@user-mv9yz8vd9f]

Mj sucks. Bron better

[@da11king]

@Michael Jordan Bill Cartright was never a superstar on the Knicks

[@thebalmaintigers]

@@da11king ABC Australia has no money. Big budget cuts. That was an authentic, sincere interview..👍🇦🇺

[@scottipippen6554]

Can we all also applaud the interviewer for a great, great talk with the GOAT? Well done, lady, enjoied every single minute of it!

[@bradgotch]

Agreed I think Australian reporters and media are world class.

[@brentmonkhouse6638]

@J G random comment lol

[@Juicepluggedin]

No bro the reporter sounded brain dead reading off a damn script lol u more delusional than the real Scottie pippen 😂

[@clintoneddy2860]

@J G not a chance in hell, AFL will always and I mean always be the top sport in Australia by a wide margin. Basketball isn't very popular here right now. Yes it has its fans but the AFL fills 50,000-100,000 seat stadiums while basketball (10,000-14,000 when full which isn't often) and soccer 5,000-15,000) don't even compete. UFC is fast becoming the second sport here, but soccer will never be on the same level as AFL in Australia doesn't matter if it's 2050 or 3050 AFL will always rule here

[@rod7532]

Watching how age has made MJ become more humble it’s really amazing. Legend!

[@higherpurpose1212]

He is humble to begin with. He didn't brag and doesn't proclaim himself the goat unlike Lechoke James. He never once brag about his accomplishments nor how he's the greatest player of all time.

[@Cam-dp1bg]

this interview is pure class in all ways.

[@yeslowlow]

Michael has mellowed with age. Also in light of Kobe passing I think he is making himself more accessible so people will see the man behind the mythical legend he is known to be in basketball. It is good to see him now give his perspective. All those years of being hard and having to maintain that tough image had to wear on him. He is one in a million. He is the G.O.A.T. 🐐

[@kanem5081]

What a terrific summary. I agree with everything you just said.

[@PrettyboyEnt]

Loss makes u realize you rather do it now instead of saying I shoulda went it was too late

[@natsfan100]

It's more about LeBron being called the greatest by Gen Z. Michael is and will always be the most competitive person ever.

[@AreolaGrande94]

I have never heard him being THIS self aware and so utterly understanding of himself. Of who is was as a person then when he was at the height of achievement at the highest competitive level with the perspective of a man 20-25 removed from that level of intensity and having all that time to psychoanalyze himself in, now, a stress-free environment [not referring to his personal life, which i know nothing about. I just mean things, pursuits, probably aren't seen as SO life or death. I see no better evidence of this than his time being president of basketball operations and minority owner of the Wizards. Things had not been good for that franchise really at all in his time there, which was right after his final retirement and lasted 3.5 years. He still had that same mentality he's referring to - a ceaseless desire to be involved in competition and be great. When he failed at that, he did not take it well. But he was 40, still freshly retired, and was still doing everything in his power not to have to shed and retire that "armor." Several years of self reflection and honest personal appraisal later, he is at peace with that experience as one of the most important chapters of his growth beyond and transition away from his life of being so directly responsible in shouldering the burden for a basketball team competing at the highest level. He, just from an outside observer's prospective - one that has followed and studied his life and career as someone not personally close to him ever could, seems as close to a finished product in terms of finding balance and peace as a human being can achieve In relation to Luc: he knows that the very strengths of his demeanor, character, and personality were positive and 100% necessary to achieve all the success that they did were precisely the ones that made the relationships with more "Type B" people complicated at times and perhaps rubbed them the wrong way on occasion. He acknowledges that, and talks about how he changed his methods/approach with Luc without sacrificing an ounce of the message he was was being sent. Luc's lifelong empathic nature and open-mindedness, a willingness to adapt as best he could, combined with Jordan's newfound understanding as to how to meet him halfway meant they were ultimately perfect for each other and both benefitted one another from their strengths and weaknesses alike. Obviously, the results are undeniable proof of how successful all of it was; not only in terms of basketball success(es), but perhaps even more so in their mutual enlightenment as people This endeavor to tell Luc's story in a thorough and honest way was sorely, even tragically, neglected until now. It is greatly appreciated.

[@ryzonnathan1491]

1 in 7 billion

[@shinglesshingles]

Australia: Why'd they leave Luc off The Last Dance? MJ: I took that personally *32 minute interview because Luc MATTERS*

[@diegodelarosa1925]

Exactly that was his game in his mind, if you believe Michael is missing something you lost the Game!!

[@jesmondlagado7475]

underrated comment

[@robertoh.20]

Luc's life matters!

[@theaterofsouls]

hahahahaha

[@maxksax]

yes

[@morgantull4011]

I love the smile that come across MJ's face when she asks about Longleys "Australianess".

[@Somaliland44]

Extraordinary interview. Brutally honest. Carnivorous!!!. What a competitor. Nobody could hold a candle to MJ in that department. Nobody.

[@gw5331]

“He matters to me” Whoa 😮 Most sentimental thing I’ve ever heard from MJ!

[@lukerabin5079]

As Australian, who lived in Chicago for both threepeats, I can’t overestimate how proud I was to live in a great basketball city and to have a fellow countryman, a landsman, as such breaking such important new ground. Luc, you rock, and more importantly, you made us all look good by association. Thank you.

[@bullboy13]

i lived over there for both threepeats also. what a time!

[@paulz4667]

@@bullboy13 beautiful city hope to live there long term

[@BruteStrength99]

Luke, Mister Charles can you articulate the adjustments you guys had to make coming from Australia to a city like Chicago. From weather to crime to culture.

[@BruteStrength99]

@@paulz4667 how long have you lived there?

[@paulz4667]

@@BruteStrength99 i did a project in chicago 3 months, i was in nyc for about the same. Im in sydney at the moment might get work transfer to chicago, I ultimately want to do my phd there. I lived near ashland orange line

[@Ticonderous1]

Who the Hell would give this a thumbs down ... To hear MJ speak of Luc you know how much he means to him ... Brilliant interview and MJ still the Man .....

[@carlholland3819]

how would you even know if there were any thunbs down?

[@devandraefes5837]

MJ is a legend. Full stop. Total respect for all his team mates and opponents. The best.

[@chriszep857]

Even to this day, you can feel MJ's intensity and passion for the game.

[@benbunyip]

Yes, and passion for life.

[@karenhampton9693]

Yes and I think I'm just as fascinated everytime I hear him talk because it takes me back to that era each time of what the energy was like in the Chi when the Bulls played.

[@johnroche9862]

He almost sounded like he was going to cry talking about losing that regular season Utah game haha. Some early season game with nothing on the line and you can tell it still stings for him.

[@1234EggNogg]

@J G I don’t think anyone cares about your soccer comment.

[@LordCroker]

for sure, I think it was on the Last Dance when he said one of the things he rues the most is that they never got a chance to go for the 7th championship as they got split up. I'm sure he is still hurt that he never got a real chance to play again with his boys. Washington doesn't count

[@Regel2008]

This is actually awesome. The fact they just managed to have MJ in this program was just amazing but now this, a 30min interview with MJ about that run and Luc. Bravo. Bravo.

[@salamanca1954]

Seeing Luc through the lens of Michael's competitive nature is fascinating. You can see Michael owning his own competitive post-basketball struggles and his affection for Luc. His appreciation for Luc shines through in his willingness to sit for a very, very incisive interview. Whoever she is, she knows her business, inside and out.

[@bossman4401]

This man Sacrificed a lot for the fans. Fans love winners and he did everything possible, and sometimes even the impossible to win. I still get goosebumps remembering watching MJ and the Bulls as a boy. Still feels unreal. ❤

[@killswitchfuzzy]

Netflix: *omits Luc Longley from The Last Dance* MJ: For them to do that? That's all I needed...

[@giemueluy]

You mean "I took that personally!" 🤪

[@saz19s8]

“It became personal with me”

[@reedlarsen5441]

You mean ESPN ….

[@marklynlroy6379]

no doubt, its a genuine compliment coming from MJ, he will not have this interview for 30 minute if he's not.every teamates for him matter

[@waynelivera8333]

It makes perfect sense for MJ to do this and not claim full responsibility for leaving him out of one of the biggest documentaries of recent time, which he 100% did. It was his documentary and he was the executive producer. He knows he screwed Luc over and this is him rectifying his reputation to us Aussies. MJ's a pro.

[@marklynlroy6379]

@@waynelivera8333 I cannot disagree with you on this.

[@dayra6425]

@@waynelivera8333 even longley said he lived over seas so they couldn’t interview him

[@baka825]

@@secoTheSonicFan The only reason people spread that fake info around is to try and assassinate MJ's character. A lot of MJ haters showed themselves with the last dance doc. Even though the director of the doc said that MJ's camp had no control over the doc, people still spread around things saying MJ had FULL CONTROL of the narrative of the documentary, BASED on nothing but their own bias against MJ.

[@waynelivera8333]

@@secoTheSonicFan Go look up what "executive producer" means. I love MJ but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Luc was deemed not important enough to him for his story. If it was Dennis Rodman living in Australia, budget would have been allowed. Wake up, I'm not a hater.

[@redseamole]

The GOAT makes average teammates better, the “king” trades them.

[@classicdufferin8739]

haha

[@WOLFMANF14DFIGHTER]

LMAO

[@bcafed]

Jordan would so mentally dominate Lebron it would be embarrassing to watch. Physically speaking, Lebron is bigger and stronger. Mentally, it's not even a contest.

[@PIP-zf9yb]

@@bcafed I agree lebron is awesome bigger stronger but Jordan is a killer ok the court and he wouldent ever meltdown like lebron did against Dallas

[@zeebartjavier1825]

THIS is leadership. Understanding the people around them. Their motivations. Their skill sets. As opposed to the so-called "making team-mates better" by just dishing out assists so that they score more.

[@randall4996]

Great interview. I am a 46 year old man, and still feel that excitement watching MJ do an interview like if he was still playing. That's when you know you are the G.O.A.T. The man is bringing out emotions from other grown men like if he was still playing in his prime. Luc appears to be a great man, and deserves all of his praises.

[@user-pq1yn9zb2m]

I understand, and I agree! Never have I, nor will I ever, feel anything remotely similar to that by listening to LeBron give an interview. It's a travesty that people even try to compare the two. MJ exudes greatness, mastery, brutal honesty, intensity, integrity. He is without a doubt the greatest athlete of my lifetime at least.

[@faison514]

It takes a great interviewer to pull these answers out of MJ. I think he was more relaxed and comfortable knowing this doc wasn't about him. It was for one of his unsung teammates who he clearly respected. I nearly shed a tear at the end of this

[@BigMike_RTTV]

Stop comparing Lebron to this man... There will NEVER and I mean NEVER be another Michael Jordan!!! So privileged to have watched this man play in my lifetime!

[@jayadi25]

Agreed 1000% mate!!!

[@ivanmatesic721]

Amen, brother.

[@dj-two-timing-timmy]

This video shows why he is the goat, his level of intelligence, deep thought, inner drive and understanding of what it takes, his humility and genuineness sets him apart from others. There will never be another Jordan ever…

[@Orly777]

Agree!!

[@jermo1213]

That a fact. Nobody better.

[@victoryasher1729]

If anyone hates this man, their integrity, winning, and passion is limited. This man really knows himself and what makes him tick. And I appreciate MJ's candidness....if the people in this world would have half the character of this man....and the integrity to admit imperfections concerning "The Last Dance" and Luc Longley. I'm just speechless...MJ has class for certain.

[@theclassicmanila-style8435]

Dude is the goat, made himself a legend, made his teammates legendary as well along the journey. Luc longley was actually good and the rest of the team of course.

[@jeffa3896]

Great interview! MJ’s a busy man and regularly turns down million dollar appearance and interview opportunities. For him to spend 30 minutes with Australian Story gratis, he’s clearly got a tremendous level of respect and appreciation for Luc. Always been a fan, but him doing this for Luc makes him even more of a legend in my eyes. Bravo!

[@iishyxvietxboyii1]

He felt bad for Luc being left out of The Last Dance.

[@Saphy_Bagel]

His time is money. Literally he gave hundreds of thousands or dollars in his own time to do this interview. The Greatest Of All Time!

[@jackdanielss]

The most ruthless sportsperson in history. That is why he is the GOAT

[@reymenders5437]

Period.

[@Romamb]

Alex Ferguson Brian Clough Those two were immensely ruthless. How can you, with any credibility say that MJ was the most ruthless sportsperson in history. Do you know the entire history of sport? Just stop it man.

[@goonerross4834]

@@Romamb what about Phil Jackson, you can't compare managers to players.......in Clough and Fergusons playing career, they were no where near the heights MJ took, not only his team...but the sport worldwide

[@deridivisstar884]

Maybe the best shooting guard. But not the goat.

[@briandavidson1946]

Goat? Hmm. That's an opinion.

[@natluvcoach79]

How am I just now seeing this video! This is so sweet of him. He NEVER grants interviews. He’s famously known to be fiercely protective of his privacy. And if you watched The Last Dance, then you know it’s because of how he was consistently pursued and in the public eye… till the point he was driven to being alone in a room to get peace & quiet. So once he retired, he swore to keep all media away so he could enjoy his life. So it’s real big whenever he grants someone an interview cause that’s something he understandably doesn’t do.

[@3ver4fter53]

Dear Michael. The amount of joy you gave us when we were kids is unmatched. Thank you for that, thank you for sharing and thank you for still willing to evolve as a human being.

[@TheLionaaa]

Thanks for that comment. That's real.

[@holge2710]

What a charismatic man. He is just the greatest sports man ever lived.

[@breinvidhighlights3352]

yup

[@micsunday14]

Him and Don Bradman

[@tonyamartin1425]

nah thats ali

[@gdbssa]

@@micsunday14 Dont know enough about boxing to comment but Bradman and Jordan both changed the rules of their entire sport with Bodyline and Hand-Checking.

[@DC-zj4ov]

Off the court, no scandals....just class

[@jamesmiscellaneous]

This is why MJ is the greatest player to me. He knows the burden of having others lean on you to the point of them practically taking you for granted. Can't take a play off, can't take a quarter off, can't pass up a chance to send a rival team a "message" as he says. Staying on top is a perpetual grind. The mental endurance is just as important as physical endurance necessary to be top dog against strong competition. MJ embodies the very definition of the common theme of a competitor "wanting it more".

[@danieloceans9652]

Well said

[@dualdual3976]

exactly...

[@davidspivey4526]

This interview explains why Michael was not only so hugely successful on the court but off the court as well. Great interview!👍🏾

[@carloscastro5213]

Luc had the assignment of facing every center in the NBA and make them accountable... He played his role with the greatest team ever, which means his level of competition had to be high... to be the starting center on that team, hello.... props to Luc.

[@carlholland3819]

@@user-pb2jp2ib3r alongzo morning, hakeem, mutombo

[@deejay824do]

I bet Luc is in joyful tears watching this. 30 minuties of nothing but praises from the GOAT himself.

[@williamh.gatesiii8183]

Not all praises. MJ telling it like it was good and bad. Lol. MJ too real.

[@deridivisstar884]

Jordan's teammates hated him. Grant And Scottie calling him out.

[@jermo1213]

This is like getting another chip for Luc.

[@jermo1213]

@@deridivisstar884 if it wasn't for MJ...

[@carlholland3819]

@@williamh.gatesiii8183 sometimes the truth hurts. get over it

[@johnpetrig8797]

Interviewer did a brilliant job. MJ was relaxed and appeared to enjoy the questions. 30 minutes talking about Luc from the GOAT was unexpected and great fun to watch.

[@asymptoticspatula]

You can tell MJ really feels deeply about people. He's a monomaniacal competitor and a deeply caring person at the same time. He's such an interesting guy, even beyond all the accolades and accomplishments.

[@micsunday14]

I think Luc being left off of the last dance has been somewhat rectified with this. Kudos to Jordan. I have amazing memories being a 16 year old watching the entire second three- peat and The last dance season. Just beautiful. Was fantastic as an Australian watching Jordan, Pippen, rodman etc playing with an Aussie

[@dominiquejones3805]

Luc & Rodman made the sickest passes

[@WeCube1898]

I think these Bulls are creating a Chicagoverse😮

[@BinniamEskender]

I’m so glad the ’Last Dancer’ left a lot of Luc’s story out… that way, we got this amazing doc of Luc (thanks to Australia ABC In-depth) and the longest interview we’ve gotten from MJ, ever 😍

[@WeCube1898]

It seems like a Chicago Verse, First was MJs Then Lucs, Waiting for Kerr's and Toni's, Pipp and RodMan are in the works I think.

[@crashpark9622]

Fr, because MJ doesn’t even really do interviews

[@geekoffaleashgamer616]

One of the best interviews with MJ I have ever seen. 30 mins I a feet in itself. But 30 mins about one person shows the affect Luke had at the bulls and his greatness as a player and friend. Well done ABC. Best thing I have seen in years.

[@wisejustice7742]

This is such a great interview. MJ was so articulate and grateful here. Thank God MJ didn't have Luc Longley in his documentary film, which led MJ to feel real guilty and we got this 30 minute gem.

[@Wawa-cd6vs]

I witnessed the 2nd repeat, and I can tell that LUC was a huge help inside. Lucs mid range jumper helped the Teams consistency of points.

[@mus31]

Its interviews like this that make me truly admire MJ. He is more than just this hyper-competitive individual that dominated in a team sport.

[@chrishandsome4267]

MJ is a cut above all others, not just in basketball. We are blessed to have been able to experience him & the Bulls. Coming from a mavs fan

[@rhysyeomans]

The most natural I've ever seen Michael in an interview. Great work, Caitlin Shea, both for this incredible interview and the Luc Longley documentary!

[@topcover7390]

From a guy who grew up in the 80's 10 minutes from where the Pistons played and hated Michael Jordon, as an older man I realize what an unbelievable honor it was for me to watch him play. In my opinion he may be the greatest example of "leader" in the sporting world I've ever seen in my lifetime. What a competitor and class act.

[@TheLionaaa]

I guarantee you he is the greatest leader as well.

[@tomphan6438]

And this is why MJ is the Goat. To spend that much time in an interview about a role player like Luke just shows you the amount of respect MJ had for his teammates. The man was a true leader!

[@grillbuster1519]

Really? This interview is why MJ is the goat? It’s basically an “I’m sorry” interview (from MJ) for not including his starting center at all in his own 8 part documentary.

[@carlholland3819]

@@grillbuster1519 werent you listening? MJ didnt have creative control or are you calling him a liar?

[@carlholland3819]

longley wasnt just a role player. he was the starting center back when the league was dominated by centers. ewing, alonzo, shaq, mutombo, hakeem, duncan, etc. value isnt only measured in points

[@grillbuster1519]

@@carlholland3819 MJ is a billionaire with all of the control he wants. “The last dance” turned into an MJ documentary mostly, instead of the Bulls. They couldn’t even release it without MJs approval. And yes, he’s a liar. For example, said that he wasn’t the cause of Isiah being left off the dream team, until a recorded convo surfaced. Only after the backlash did MJ decided to try to fix totally omitting discussing his center.

[@wavyamar]

MJ is really a genuine loyal dude. He's so authentic it's ridiculous. Luc was awesome especially in 96' & 98'

[@realitybites629]

Notice how he emphasized being the Physical leader of the team so that they can execute whatever the coaches damanded of them. He respected his coaches and knew his role as a player was to execute the coaches gameplan.

[@averagegoslingenthusiast2033]

Wasn’t a very genuine dude when he punched his teammates

[@Rajkumarsingh-ci6bi]

@@averagegoslingenthusiast2033 He was genuine about winning. By the end of the day, with a championship in the hand, that is all that mattered.

[@Romamb]

@@averagegoslingenthusiast2033 piss off. People fall out all the time. You can't have ever played team sports.

[@averagegoslingenthusiast2033]

@@Rajkumarsingh-ci6bi ok nobody disputing that, but just coz he was a winner doesn’t mean he was a good dude lol

[@gretchenlittle6817]

Wow -- this ranks right up there with some of the best interviews I've ever seen. Ms. Shea deserves credit for her role in bringing out Mr. Jordan's insights, and letting him finish his thoughts. Players and coaches could learn a lot about team dynamics watching and discussing this.

[@primategaberocco]

To me, the greatest athlete (physically, mentally) to have ever graced our eyes. 👌😎

[@gdbssa]

Its not even close imo. People say Lebron is better and no disrespect to James but can you imagine the numbers Jordan would be putting up in todays NBA 👀

[@primategaberocco]

@@gdbssa I understand the comparison to LeBron, who's just another glorious specimen, but like you believe MJ had that extra........spark. 👍

[@gdbssa]

Kobe had it in him too

[@primategaberocco]

@@gdbssa 👌 hell yeah. RIP.

[@PIP-zf9yb]

@@gdbssa agreed I don't really compare the 2 because they played entire different eras. The NBA today is all about stats because there is no defense anymore so tough to compare. One thing forsure no one compares to Michael in intensity and that killer instinct.

[@mmpp1704]

It's just... moving & amazing to see how MJ loves, appreciates, shows his all respects for Longley & how much his teammate matters for him,, MJ's great personality, 32 minutes dedicated only for his former teammate Luc Longley... Hats off to him

[@TunnelVisionAthletic]

Well done ABC Australia. Best interview with MJ!

[@matsong5134]

He’s always well spoken and uses his manners showing respect. His parents did a good job raising and keeping him grounded.

[@jeanblezin7091]

He came from a very smart and working class family as well. All of Jordan's siblings went to college and graduated as well...

[@clo5036]

Only in the public eye. Not on the court or in the locker rooms...

[@spitnificent]

@@clo5036 which makes him human.

[@DocYAYAYA]

@@clo5036 welcome to sports... this happens in every level of sport from grassroots to the main leagues

[@teleplace2639]

@@clo5036 Of course u were there; On Court & in the locker rm. Jus saying!" But winning is tough!"

[@GTTg-kr2xh]

I said once and will say it again: Jordan is a superb communicator - ❤ hearing him speak with detail, clarity, and confidence.

[@n5brown]

You can tell that MJ genuinely regrets what happened. He has a lot of respect and love for Luc. Hopefully their relationship will continue to grow.

[@AndyWrasman]

Yes. Very obvious, he felt really bad about it in this interview.

[@billblaski9523]

What happened?

[@sunnyboy8644]

somehow they left Luc for the Last Dance.... @@billblaski9523

[@carlholland3819]

​@@billblaski9523 everybody gets butt hurt over nothing these days. they all won championships, got rich and famous. thats what happened

[@HonorGuard117]

I can't believe they actually got MJ to sit down for an interview about Luc's Australian story. MJ is a hard man to sit down for an interview. It makes him that much more legendary in a way that he needs to be chased just to have a moment with. It's almost like in Pokemon Gameboy games where you gotta try find the rare legendary Pokemon lol.

[@dannyc7227]

Right! MJ must have a soft spot for Luc or Australia, or both.

[@TAJY26]

MJ is old-school. No social media presence and he keeps his life private. He would speak on rare occasions, but he has his life to live and his life does not revolve around his fans

[@joesmith3098]

His privacy and staying away from virtually everything is adds to the ora and makes it that much more special when he talks. It's been this and Kobe's funeral basically for the past 5 to 10yrs. He is in such a unique position, he was so good and such an icon that his presence let's say in media or commenting about current games, players, or let's say playoff series would over shadow the damn game. Jesus, ESPN has filled a 1/4 of the past decade hyping the rediculous boat Convo just for raitings. Every interview would just end up being about him. Then the next show they would break his comments down and debate if he was playing on the loosing team instead of a certain player they would have win instead.

[@audettelinox3991]

Missing MJ talking like this... people just listen when he talks !!! 💜

[@dannydillon997]

When MJ answers a question, you can apply his answer to every day life, still a leader still the best whoever did it. A role model to those who have nothing, gives hope to humanity, people like Jordan. Cheers to him for giving us all an inside look at his insights to being great.🔥😎🙏

[@sonsofstretford3866]

Longley doing the No Bull tour after MJ took the time to do this interview for him is a d*** move

[@roydondecastro]

because of MJ, these guys (luc, jud, armstrong, etc) became legendary. they will never be forgotten, they were part of one of the greatest stories in sports history.

[@roydondecastro]

@B. Chan i hate to be the bringer of bad news here, but i think you're wrong. see the thing is, whoever you give jordan, in his prime, as supporting role, jordan would've been the same to them, pushing them to their utmost potential. and of course this is a team sport, but jordans mentality and leadership propelled these guys to levels they never knew they could reach. i would say that without coach jackson and the triangle, it would've been a different story for jordan.

[@marekwichniarek268]

@B. Chan Great thought.

[@markozbunjol625]

@B. Chan lol, everbody know who is Tony Kukoc before he went in NBA trust me people who know who is Toni

[@Starch1b2c3d4a]

All those players would have been great on any team. Bulls had a 55 win season when Jordan quit that one year.

[@toogoat9293]

@@Starch1b2c3d4a and then they were .500 the year after that. MJ turned that team into a 72 win team in 96 but no one sais that.

[@murderorgy473]

Michael Jordan always will be and always has been the G.O.A.T.

[@jerryjazzbo2845]

It feels good knowing that Luc finally got the recognition he deserved. His omission from The Last Dance was just sad. Thanks, GOAT. 👍

[@carlholland3819]

he always had recognition. everybody that played minutes on that team did. they cant all be MJ

[@iliastsiphlidis4607]

Experience, age and life in general often bring wisdom and empathy. What a great tribute to Luc and how amazing is it to learn that despite his “carnivorous” leadership style he did learn how to push Luc by analysing and observing him, a true marksmanship of a leader. I take my hat off for this guy any day and Luc what a gentle quintessential Australian giant!