Vader’s Corridor | The Best (and Worst) Scene in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story features one of the best scenes in Darth Vader history... but does that really make the movie?
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[@mrscribbles2693]

Disabled war veteran takes out armed terrorists (0 BBY colourised)

[@SamuelMcCloud]

Lol facts

[@mahks-pectith3179]

Imperial propaganda 101

[@1701spacecadet]

@@mahks-pectith3179 looks like we have a Rebel sympathiser in our midst!

[@Krone0k]

1701spacecadet lol Imperial NPC here

[@cpt.riptide473]

The only thing that would have made this scene better is if we didn’t know Vader was in the movie. If he just showed up out of nowhere in the end it would have been even better

[@AlyxDG]

That rebel desperately pounding on the door is one of the most emotional things I’ve seen in a long time. It’s not cheesy or lame, instead it shows how scary Vader truly is. I love it.

[@sebastianking5271]

I honestly love it I don’t understand the hate by this dude

[@nickdimitre]

@@sebastianking5271 I love this movie because it feels like a classic war movie in the Star Wars universe which just feels magical to me. This is what Star Wars is supposed to be, a war, and there’s hardship and sacrifices necessary for the war efforts to advance and this movie did a great job of showing how dedicated people were to the rebels cause and how each of the characters in the movie made a difference which lead to the movies that we all love.

[@kornknot2726]

Have you noticed what makes that scene scarier is that Vader put in to little or no effort into killing those rebels

[@starrynight7783]

Well Vader is the baddest assed bad guy to ever bad guy after all.

[@ZHL242]

There is so much bad acting in Star Wars, and that's part of what makes the hallway scene stand out. Every single Rebel actor in this scene fucking nails the emotion those characters should be feeling. The star wars galaxy is massive, there's a good chance that Vader was just perceived as a fearmongering Imperial myth by lots of people who had only heard tell of him and never seen him. If you watch, they all have their weapons ready to fire and aimed straight at Vader when he ignites his lightsaber, but they pause for a moment. That pause is them realizing that this cyborg wizard demon from the underground legends is real, and his sole purpose in that moment is to murder them. It takes someone screaming "OPEN FIRE" for them to snap out of it, and even then they do a phenomenal job of portraying terror. When Vader lifts the rebel up onto the ceiling, the shooter immediately behind him simply stands up and drops his weapon, in pure shock at Vader's power. All the while, the rebel at the door is pounding for his life, screaming "HELP USSSSS" and trying his damndest to force the door open to save himself. He doesn't hand the disk over immediately, he waits until the very last moment to hand it through the door because he is _terrified_ and he doesn't want to die in that hallway like so many of his brothers. His final acceptance in the form of "TAKE IIIIIIIIIT! TAKE IT!" is fucking spine-chilling, as is the very final image before the door closes of the wounded Rebel soldier, screaming in terror, trying to crawl through the door, to do anything he can do get away from the merciless being about to end him for good. All those actors deserve far more praise than they're given. They make that scene what it is just as much as Vader does.

[@tommylucia4794]

Vader can’t be on the beach He doesn’t like sand

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Firstly, best comment no questions asked. Secondly, technically Vader cannot be on the beach because sand gets into his suit, clunking up the joints and just generally being annoying. Basically "it's course, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere"

[@tommylucia4794]

Rising up from The North What

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

@Rising up from The North never

[@blindedjourneyman]

@Rising up from The North SALTY

[@ValentineC137]

@@blindedjourneyman Sandy**

[@geekchris105]

I think the criticism of the first scene is actually what makes it work for her character: she isn't scared of the empire, she isn't passionate, she just wants to keep her head down and stay safe, which is what worked for her as a kid. Standing up killed her mother, hiding and running saved her.

[@derekscanlan4641]

also, seeing her pursued here would be pointless and generic. The point is that she lies calmly and sees her mother shot dead and her father taken away

[@truesoulghost2777]

Tell me her mom isn’t just dumb and left her child alone like that. That scene just sucked

[@bluesyrupgc4224]

True, and I think if the troopers were on her tail, I will immediately have a question: you’re highly trained soldiers and you can’t catch up to a girl?

[@bakernation]

I'd like to point out those actors who play the rebels did an amazing job! Their sheer terror makes that scene. They deserve some call backs for future star wars projects.

[@WarTurtle1088]

Unfortunately, I think most of their opportunities were cut short and some may even be too choked up to take the chance.

[@cactusgaming970]

@@WarTurtle1088 was that a pun?

[@Rustyy.shackleford]

@Dragongamer 7 there’s a *shadow* hanging over him

[@psychogoji]

While Tarkin is jarring in this movie, you need him in this story. He’s the guy who runs the Death Star in A New Hope, how would he not be involved in an engagement with people trying to steal its blueprints?

[@TeensierPython]

Nick Webster - I wish they used holograms. He didn’t need to be there. He could have been on the way. Krenic could have done everything and at the last scene tarkin could have just said it’s mine, Darth is in his way to discuss any issues. Done.

[@WatchVidsMakeLists]

@@TeensierPython That's a good solution. The scene where he is introduced and we partially see his reflection in the window... that's the way to do it. Show us his hologram, his reflection, his back, his boots... anything but his face.

[@CraigNull]

"Why wouldn't the creator of the Atom Bomb be involved in stopping Soviet spies trying to steal intelligence about it?"

[@lpcairns02]

You know I never found particularly jarring. Leia looked like plastic but Tarkin? Looked fine to me. In all honesty if I didn't already know it cgi, I probably never would've questioned it.

[@gator2887]

CraigNull except that isn’t really a good comparison, Tarkin isn’t a scientist that made the Death Star, he’s the general that runs it. As such it’s his responsibility to make sure nothing happens to the empire’s super weapon. Including the theft of the plans that may point out vital weaknesses. The guy who made the gun doesn’t worry about it, the guy who owns it does

[@hunterkiller1440]

So...it's not really the worst scene but it's just the scene that makes the rest of the movie looks bad rather than being a highlight.

[@ceez3841]

Not even that. The creator of this video is a moron if I have to be honest.

[@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228]

@@ceez3841 oh ok papi.

[@Sinstarclair]

@@ceez3841 Do you really think that y'know, we can have the same view of the same thing?

[@ImTheReverse]

@@ceez3841 He’s not a moron, he’s made a lot of great videos. This one just isn’t one of his best.

[@ImTheReverse]

@Paul Martin That’s the shittiest logic I’ve ever heard.

[@InsomniacPostman]

I actually liked the fact that they explicitly made Donnie Yen's character not be a jedi. And instead he was simply one who believes in them and the Force without any evidence that it has ever done anything for him. It briefly made the Force a magical and mysterious thing once again. Did the Force help him? Was he "guided" by it? We don't really ever get actual confirmation one way or another in the movie. And I love that. I think that the jedi and their Force powers have become a ridiculous deus ex machina for the series. (Never more so evident than in Rise of Skywalker.) To the extent that there almost nothing special or interesting about it anymore.

[@simonegreco1958]

It would have worked better if he wasn't a killing machine There is no difference between him and Luke on how they defeat swarm of enemies

[@jasonblalock4429]

Well, it also gets to what Luke was trying to teach Rey in TLJ: "Light side of the Force" and "Jedi" are NOT synonymous. The Force is what it is. The Jedi are merely interpreting it and channeling it. Jedi need the Light Side; the Light Side does not need the Jedi. Donnie Yen is a light-side Force user (even if he doesn't entirely realize it) but he's not a Jedi.

[@blindedjourneyman]

@@simonegreco1958 except he's mostly just knocking them out, unless explicitly noted. No vibroblade or lightsaber. Just a blind force sensitive with faith and a staff.

[@simonegreco1958]

blinded journeyman right Not killing It’s still an issue to me but you’re right

[@PeverellTheThird]

@@jasonblalock4429 makes me think of the Lasat and how they believe in the Ashla and Bogan

[@Xanlet]

"It's the worst scene in the movie because it shows how all the other scenes in the movie are worse" Come on now, you can do better than this

[@HeWhoObeysMakesNoMistake]

Lol, that’s the point of the best scene. No other scene is better.

[@IshtarNike]

@@HeWhoObeysMakesNoMistake No it isn't.

[@HeWhoObeysMakesNoMistake]

@@IshtarNike Yes it is.

[@SWTobito0702]

@@IshtarNike I think you need some vocabulary lessons, buddy.

[@robynguzman3276]

I disagree with your take on Vader’s role, he’s not the Terminator, he’s an authoritative figure within the Empire, only taking orders from Tarkin & Palpatine. Also it’s makes zero sense for Vader to be in Tarkin’s position overseeing the Death Star’s construction, he doesn’t give a toss about the Death Star as shown in EP4, Tarkin had to be in the movie it wouldn’t make any sense for him not to be.

[@xernax1841]

"The best *& worst scene* " The Star Wars Community: "So you will die braver than most!"

[@jamesbellefeuille2926]

I like your "Twilight of the Apprentice" reference.

[@pr3s1onn60]

Rebels

[@MonsieurTrinity]

Full Fat Videos: "I don't fear you!"

[@kevmasengale6903]

I've been saying what he said since I walked out the theater....

[@JDMajor7]

I didn't think of Chirut as a Jedi. We never see him directly manipulating the force, he just feels it, and he reacts to it. It's kind of biblical. It's a blind man that can see more than everyone else by giving himself up to the force.

[@blindedjourneyman]

I went the route of comparing him to a warrior monk but this does fit a bit better.

[@seandabest4329]

Fairly sure that they were quite specific in naming him "not a Jedi" in the film. No lightsaber, no force abilities (beyond the force amplifying his naturally improved senses of hearing, touch, and all the other senses that work overtime when you're blind), just a man of faith.

[@adami6187]

Taking this religious and biblical point of view, the jedi would be saints, given power by God, while chirrut is more of a prophet, giving his life to the faith, but not giving the power other have.

[@ennothedishonorable5530]

Well, he is literally force sensitive. And even if he doesn't use the force for levitating stuff etc. by feeling it and let him tell what to do, he uses the most important ability of a jedi.

[@JOCoStudio1]

Yeah, I personally find it a cool and interesting new concept, fleshing out the star wars universe just that little bit more. He doesn't function quite as a jedi and even if he did, disguising him as something lesser helps build the stakes as you don't feel like they have an unstoppable godlike power on their side.

[@RoastTurkey101]

"there's no tension in something invisible being transmitted thousands of miles" *coronavirus has entered the chat*

[@monochrome_soft9472]

big oof

[@parttoon8305]

big oof indeed

[@-007-2]

Pfft coronavirus

[@scrappydoohasbeenfounddead937]

aw gee

[@ralindrakus7380]

Checkmate - Well played good sir

[@ajkbertho]

I like the fact that he still has stiff movements that he had in the originals, even though his costume is probably made with better materials.

[@tomnorton4277]

It was actually a perfect blend of Vader's Prequel and Original Trilogy fighting styles. Flashy enough to show off the skills he developed as Anakin, such as with that casual, backwards swipe to slice the guy he was pinning to the ceiling in half, whilst still showing that Vader lacks the mobility that he had in his prime. Kudos to whoever was in that costume.

[@lilmoris1]

That 2 minutes scene is awesome not only because it shows Vader going all out. But because it shows how truly horrifying encountering Vader would be...

[@DarrylErickson]

Although you can catch him on a good mood like the scene “we would be honoured if you would join us”

[@reek4062]

just lame fan service

[@muchanadziko6378]

@@reek4062 it wasn't lame. Though it would be better if it was in a better movie. Or if it didn't happen at all. I mean, we all know what Vader is capable of. We don't need to see it.

[@magnus_cockstrong]

I thought the idea of a force sensitive who wasn't a jedi or sith was pretty cool. It's a big galaxy, some force sensitives must slip through the cracks or not be strong enough in the force to make the cut. It demonstrated a more subtle use of the force in lieu of the overt displays of power that a trained user would produce.

[@itsvortex0162]

Fr, not everyone is going to be a jedi either. Just because they are force sensitive doesnt mean they are automatically a jedi. Especially during the empire

[@MrDeedsly]

Han has been hinted at being force sensitive in several comics and books.

[@edocsil1635]

@@MrDeedsly which is dumb. We don't need these main characters all being force sensitive. It's better that he isn't since it makes him more relatable. Good thing it stayed in the comics and books only

[@MrDeedsly]

@@edocsil1635 you think it is others think its not. Called an opinion....

[@edocsil1635]

@@MrDeedsly you're right it is an opinion. Just like i stated mine. He is already cool being non-force sensitive.

[@Thorozak]

“Why’d you say you liked dinner when it was just the dessert Diane???” Is this a reference or did Diane hurt your feelings?

[@FullFatVideos]

I am Mr Peanut Butter

[@Thelivingmonkeygaming]

@@FullFatVideos Hey, what is this...

[@J7041-u7m]

I missed a reference, but it still made me laugh really hard.

[@Thelivingmonkeygaming]

a crossover episode?

[@angxlsshowcase7065]

I was in a very famous teeeeee v show

[@whitewolf6113]

The way you want to alter the opening sequence by having the troopers be "right on her tail" would just turn this movie into another cliche

[@JOCoStudio1]

Yeah, same with the rebels kitting up. Without that scene, no one in the audience would have thought they might not turn up. May as well keep it in purely because it looks cool, or just get rid of the whole setup.

[@NinjaTyler]

Yeah he comes off in the video as someone who just finished film school in California and hasn't developed any complexity or critical thinking and just mimicking his favorite professors point of view thinking there's only one correct way to make a movie.

[@-mason-6538]

@@NinjaTyler you get it

[@darthvader5514]

The best scene is me taking a bath.

[@LieutenantAlaki]

You're not even wrong.

[@josephadcock7449]

On jah

[@papavader6084]

Indeed

[@Azozii]

Error 404 like on comment The time I saw the comment

[@Tabs1551]

Anakin, always talking nonsense as usual.

[@SonAlexander]

"There are more of us Po.... there are more of us..." Surprise the day is saved.... Except this scene was ruined by the trailers...

[@austin5944]

It's a really good line nonetheless

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

I never saw any of the trailers other then the first one, so it wasn't ruined for me at least.

[@jamesbacon1776]

@@Jedi-ge6lr Same.

[@mu2960]

Yes...the trailers ruined that scene🙄

[@SamMottaV]

I'd rather say the trailers were ruined by the movie

[@TheAcdcninja]

I actually prefer that we see the cavalry getting ready. It’s a pretty tired trope to throw a hero into a situation, have them nearly lose and then have a shot fired from nowhere save them and then see their buddies coming over the hill. It was a little fresher to see the decision to help be made but then see that there was still all this prep to be done and that our heroes weren’t automatically in the clear. The tension here comes from how long will it take for the cavalry to arrive. How quickly can the fleet lift off and travel to scariff? And then once there we see the small wing of fighters and support craft rush the shield to try and get a first wave of support to the surface. I suppose because we ultimately know they’ll succeed, it’s more interesting to show what the scramble to make the rescue looks like, than to make it look like they’re going to lose, but we all know that can’t be, so we’re not really shocked when the rescue comes. Instead, we watch the whole battle not worried about the IF, but the HOW, and so it’s way better that we see a series of triage scenarios (almost like a rapid fire Apollo 13) where the fleet has to get support to the surface, then they have to defend their position in space, then they have to destroy the shield to receive transmission. Meanwhile the ground team has a series of challenges and checkpoints of their own that they struggle to make work, and they have to pivot several times. Because we know they will ultimately win it’s far better than we just get an interesting journey to that victory

[@Lancaster71]

Totally agree. Seeing the how they will be saved is much more interesting than if...cause ya, we know they will be. Not very surprising at all

[@aaronjackman4037]

Another reason why I think this works is because we are worried about how many people die during this attack. We know the rebels get the plans. There is no suspense, the only suspense we can get is who lives and who makes the sacrifice for the galaxy's freedom. I don't know if either of yous two asked yourself if I'd make that sacrifice in the characters shoes which actually helps you to care about the characters, named and unnamed.

[@drksideofthewal]

Clickbait title. More accurate to say, "The best scene in Rogue One underlines how flawed the rest of the movie is." Anyway, I dislike the cliche that the heroes only ever escape by the skin of their teeth. No foresight, no caution, just bumbling their way to success. Of course Jyn was watching from a distance.

[@steelin666]

Well, if the scene is making the rest of the movie look bad, it makes the movie the biggest disservice. So it indeed is the worst scene... from a certain point of view.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

NinjaTyler Why are you going through all the top comments and replying with paraphrases of that statement?

[@DuhaTVONE]

well i don't like that cliche either i think empire should have won. not in this movie obviously it's just before new hope but in general

[@fitzhugh7463]

DuhaTV you wanted the bad guys to win? Then your protagonists don’t overcome the challenge and all tension and drama is deflated

[@DuhaTVONE]

@@fitzhugh7463 no it isn't because you won't know that and are you experiencing any tension in starwars?

[@dechasrisen4783]

There's a lot more to film-making than tension and suspense: the first scene isn't supposed to make you feel suspense, but inevitability and helplessness as she has to escape without helping her family; if Jyn were in danger, it would distract from that. The final battle is about solidarity and hope, and the emotions of the viewer come from the disparity created by watching the protagonists in despair, knowing that the rebels are coming. Chirrut is a powerful screen presence and sympathetic character because he isn't a Jedi, just a man with his stick and his faith, and it brings to bear the absence of the Jedi that he can't be one, even though he would clearly make a much better and more honest Jedi than any real Jedi in the franchise; the result is that the power of the force is still present to guide events towards their (obviously inevitable, since this is a prequel) conclusion when everything seems chaotic and disordered. Overall, you seem to be arguing that film-makers should crack every nut with a sledgehammer, but their goals are more subtle, and the result more deeply felt.

[@genghisgalahad8465]

DecHasRisen I love this even keeled zen Jedi answer!

[@zaczane]

I think you missed the point of this movie This was not about “main characters “ Jen and everybody else we’re supposed to be nobodies They are the everyman soldier essentially on the front lines This was a movie about giving Everything to hold the line Even if it only manages to hold the line for only a second more That’s enough

[@blindedjourneyman]

Well said.

[@dennispremoli7950]

which is what the vader scene shows amazingly. Not so much the rest of the movie.

[@filthydisgustingape5354]

Yes, like I always say it's good to see both the Rebel and Empire 'grunts' just doing their jobs and trying to stay alive. I mean, the street fight in Jedha, the starfighter attack on Eadu and the space/surface battle at Scarif were THE real attraction of the movie. Not everything needs to revolve around the "Skywalker Bunch". Like those guys in the hall with Vader dying while trying to keep the plans away from him, so to do Red, Gold and Blue Squadron try to buy time for 'The Suicide Squad' to succeed in it's mission.

[@HNfilms]

Then why are there several scenes that try to develop the characters?

[@JJ-to4pn]

@@HNfilms just because they're nobodies doesn't mean they can't be developed as characters. It helps to express the thoughts, feeling and ambitions of the characters so that their deaths have a greater emotional impact

[@ms_publisher7143]

The issue with your point at 9:18 is that the story in a New Hope is that Vader is equal or subordinate to Tarkin who manages the deathstar. To replace Tarkin with Vader in Rouge One wouldnt canonically make any sense and as such is only something you are creating for the necessity of the plot or because of CGI limits and not because it fits within the wider narrative of the starwars universe. Essentially you're ignoring story consistency and effective world building because you think Tarkin looks a bit off.

[@maxchen9482]

I feel I have the exact opposite reaction to a lot of these points, particularly the one about the ambiguity of help arriving. Rogue One to me feels like a mix of a movie and a WWII documentary in that you already know the end result so no matter what there’s no ambiguity to the fact that help is coming. More so, the story is less about the characters here and more about the events. I thought seeing every step of the Scarif battle was awesome and felt exactly like an old war reel. The pilots scrambling their fighters, the fleet moving into formation, then the chaos of battle with occasional focuses on notable individuals and finally the decisive turn in the battle where we know that they’ve managed to win a costly victory.

[@thebrutusmars]

Yeah this is literally supposed to be like a war movie lol

[@tygerdave7892]

"We know the cavalry is coming ...." Unfortunately, we know the ending of the story, making the entire film superfluous. Therefore, it's not as terrible an issue when the director aims for spectacle as opposed to suspense. It's not like getting the Deathstar plans was ever in question; the only thing to discover is, "How?"

[@Warcodered01]

Right and by cavalry we mean the Rebel Fleet which we already know is woefully outgunned by the Empire.

[@ErdTirdMans]

We don't have to. We only know that the plans make it out. We don't know the outcome of the characters, which would have mattered a lot if we'd seen them develop in a way that got us caring about them as more that their archetypes. What little development we got - Jin choosing to become a rebel - was so slapdash and poorly paced that it falls flat. The simplest way to test whether this movie was any good is this: Did you actually remember the main character's names after the first watch? You most likely didn't. I know I didn't. I didn't care about them at all. Also, wtf was Forrest Whitaker's character even doing? It's clear this movie suffered from rewrites and re-edits by committee rather than having a solid vision and executing it.

[@rustkarl]

That’s the tricky bit with foregone conclusions. But the intrigue is in the details.

[@DemonicMonkey88]

The how makes all of Leia's lines in Ep 4 flat out lies, and makes you wonder if she's touched in the head.

[@brewdaly1873]

You can make that argument about his other two examples though. In the Clone Wars, in fact through all of the prequels, we always knew Anakin, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Palpatine, and Padme (up until Luke and Leia's birth) would be safe. And you knew that they wouldn't end RoS with the Rey dying or the Resistance losing. You always know the cavalry is coming because most of these movies always have predictable endings, with the exception of Empire.

[@SonicTimewarp]

This might not be relevant, but I still think Rogue One has the best space battle in the saga/franchise thus far. Edit: Episode 3’s opening battle is a close second for me but I put this one on top as it focuses more on lots of different pilots than just a main one or two for the most part (ie. Obi-Wan and Anakin).

[@melancholyentertainment]

Battle over Coruscant?

[@psychogoji]

Revenge of the Sith?

[@VinVonVoom]

This is probably a hot take but I actually really like the Kessel Run in Solo. Then again I've never liked the space battles in Star Wars as much as everyone else seems to.

[@psychogoji]

Yes, Please I love the kessel run. Solo is a lot better than people give it credit for. And Battle of Endor is a pretty meh space battle nowadays

[@VinVonVoom]

@@psychogoji Battle of Endor is a close second for me but I agree with you about Solo. It's my favourite Disney Star Wars movie that's come out (still not as good as any of the OG 6 but still good).

[@FischerFilmStudio]

I honestly disagree with every single idea you came up with to “fix” the film. Vader was terrifying because we got a buildup to him actually appearing on the ship. He’d be wasted on the beach because he can’t be in five places at once. Having the plans in disc form and not transmission form is completely missing the point. You’re not supposed to see the plans in physical form until they are on the ship because you’re supposed to be focusing on the characters and their sacrifices, not the plans. The plans only exist as a conflict on the beach and a catalyst for action and stress. They don’t actually become a prop until Vader appears and by that point it’s earned because there’s a danger of everyone’s sacrifice being for nothing if Vader gets ahold of them. I love your channel but this is your weakest video in my opinion.

[@NinjaTyler]

Plus the plans being transmissioned is a line directly from a new hope so Vader doesn't know they had physical plans downloaded just in the computer. It's clear he fails to understand this is a direct prequel and tie in to a new hope and was filmed with that in mind

[@Warcodered01]

Also it would make no sense for Vader to be on that beach he's the Empire's enforcer he's got shit to do besides guard an already very secure facility that they don't know is going to be attacked.

[@SuperCheeseGod]

Also, the rebels showing up the end of the movie out of nowhere to help would just have been a bad deus ex machina. They are shown to be preparing to war because this is a war movie, not an adventure movie. It's about how people come together to fight evil space nazis, and about the common man's efforts towards that, ergo showing the other common people preparing to help their group (no surprise, showing people preparing to war also is a staple of war movies).

[@th3_tea412]

Yeah, I completely agree, the reason why I enjoyed the movie was because it was sort of hopeless, I knew what was going to happen it was just how it happened. I was happy to see people try everything just for the ability of a chance of hope.

[@rustkarl]

Agreed. I felt things struck a balance of making sense as well as having to write in as an almost immediate prequel to episode 4. For example the physical plans are something part of the Episode 4.

[@inarb]

Honestly Grand Moff Tarkin is one of my favourite characters in all of Star Wars, I just love how sinister he was and how well he was acted, mad respect to Peter Cushing, rest in peace.

[@superbobcat8997]

Bro krennic and Tarkington were done so well in this movie. I loved it.

[@muchanadziko6378]

@@superbobcat8997 He wasn't talking about this movie. He was talking about Peter Cushing.

[@They_are_Arthur]

Scenes in which people escape by the skin of their teeth are fun when they don't happen all the time. It's good to have scenes in which the main characters have logically managed to escape the situation quickly and quietly.

[@ungabungar]

You place too much importance on tension. There are other qualities a sequence can bring to the table. We already know they succeed in acquiring the plans (exactly why this scene coming out of nowhere last minute is so brilliant). To me this scene isn't even tense at all. They are already dead, as you said. It's the drama of it, the thought that they came that close to failure, that gives me chills when I watch this scene. You dead lost me when you started going on about the characters being shallow archetypes. I encourage you to reconsider that stance. The characters are all about motives. It's discovering how subtly yet incredibly well their motives are conveyed upon revisiting the film that impacts me most. They all had a reason to die to stop the Empire, and the film wants you to consider that knowing full well they are doomed - so any attempts to add tension would have been a wasted quality, and only taken audience attention away from the comtemplation of meaning behind their sacrifices. Jyn isn't emotional because she was close to her father, she is emotional because she had to grow up without him and the loss of their short relationship in her youth robbed her of purpose in life, and she felt wrong to have lived that way when he spent his life suffering slander and doing what he could when she'd given up. This is Star Wars by George Lucas' book, not by Gary Kurtz's. George wants to tell a story to think about, not to give you a euphoric experience. George only did it in Clones because using them for a last minute salvation immediately psychologically puts the audience on the side of "the clones are good" when the rest of the film is heavily implying that the clone army is not exactly a good thing, or even a sensible thing to make use of. It's whatever is in service of the primary thematic focal point of the film. Showing the rebels gearing up is in service of emphasizing motives. If they had to sacrifice that angle to create unnecessary tension, I'd consider that poor story telling. And Donnie Yen only wanted the role if he could be more than a dude who was good at fighting, and almost turned down the role when he discovered a fight scene until the director came out and said, okay but what if he was blind and trusted the Force to see? Also he is not a Jedi, he is an example of how the Force is not exclusive to the Jedi but rather flows through all things and thus is not lost to the galaxy simply because the Jedi are gone.

[@gunnerdan]

As I'm watching this and reading comments I wholeheartedly agree with you on tension, and I think it mirrors reality a little bit more when the tension comes at appropriate times. How many movies do we see someone hide mere milliseconds before the person comes around the corner? I feel like it's an old gag used just to make suspense, instead of the plot creating the suspense. Very few pivotal battles in history were won when backup came at the last moment when all hope was lost, but more were won with proper planning and execution. But I also agree with the rest of your comment, just haven't gotten that far yet.

[@Blackmagic_874]

You're 100% correct. I feel like the person who made this video missed the point of the movie, its characters and themes.

[@JainaSoloB312]

Great comment, I just wanted to add that what you said about Chirrut reminded of Luke's quote "The Force does not belong to the Jedi. To say that if the Jedi die the Light dies is vanity. Can you feel that?" from TLJ

[@NinjaTyler]

@@JainaSoloB312 man that line was so good but delivered from such a bad turn for Luke , that was one of the few times in the sequel triology Luke felt right.

[@seanheaney6200]

This man, I love this man

[@gamingKIDZ25]

Uh I hard disagree that Rise of Skywalker’s “save the day” moment works. It’s played way more paint the numbers than anything else.

[@NinjaTyler]

And in the movie makes literally zero sense and doesn't work at all.

[@Xanlet]

>Leia sends out a message >silence >Lando sends out a message >THE ENTIRE GALAXY ANSWERS plus Lando organizes them at break neck speed to all show up for the battle, makes zero sense

[@soeintyp3925]

Xanlet A battle taking place in the outer unknown parts of the galaxy

[@TheMonkeygoneape]

it was just them trying to be Endgame (also very overrated), and if anything wouldn't star destroyers with death star guns rip that fleet of civilian ships to shreds let alone tie fighters

[@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human]

@Scott Churchman Exactly. You could send a thousand fishing boats and civilian yachts up against 2 aircraft carriers and the military ships would win. Easily. Hell, even 1 would probably win. Even if it seems Star Wars has a right to bear arms law and everyone's ship has at least one laser cannon, the pea shooters on a civilian ship wouldn't pierce the military grade shields of a Star Destroyer. It would be like shooting a tank with a .22 caliber rifle. If it was Lando being sent out to gather a disparate and mostly in hiding Rebel fleet, that would be fine. But it being 'just people' makes it incredibly stupid.

[@The_Triple_Point]

while I disagree I understand the argument

[@an-animal-lover]

Same

[@NinjaTyler]

A lot of the comments agree with you. He honestly missed a lot of the points of the film but I understand where he comes from.

[@lukeowen1818]

Full FAT Videos: “I just wanted something leaner.” Fans: “It’s treason then.”

[@megadeoxys914]

*High-pitched Demonic Screeching*

[@nunayobiz]

That was Vader's Best scene of all 9 movies in the series. Shows him at the Apex of his power.

[@austin5944]

It would have been cooler if he was hunting a jedi, not in this movie of course because that would make it less special. Like the scene at the end of fallen order, where Vader's strength is so overwhelming that Cal and Cere just have to run.

[@Mahamba]

how is killing rebels the apex of your power

[@earendle]

@@Mahamba Possibly KJ Carson was referring to Vader's temporal power rather than his Force abilities. The Corridor Scene dramatically displays what happens when Vader acts unchecked. Now, compare that to the boarding of the Tantive IV. Why did stormtroopers make the initial breach there? Because it has always been that way certainly, but perhaps because Vader had been rebuked for his personal failure at Scarif. This viewpoint adds nuance to Leia's comment later in ANH about Tarkin holding Vader's leash. Furthermore, we saw Vader choke Krennec and release him with a warning by choice; then we saw Vader choke Motti, only relenting when ordered by the Grand Moff. After Tarkin's death, Vader regains some of his autonomy and his menace however he also will be shown as subordinate to the Emperor.

[@muchanadziko6378]

this was nowhere near the "Vader's best scene". It's just the modern iteration of what seems "badass". Any scene of Vader talking to Luke, both of their duels, Anakin murdering the tuskers after having his last words with his mother, Anakin and Obi-Wan banter scenes, Anakin being drawn into the dark side by Sidious, and VADER BRINGING BALANCE TO THE FORCE by killing Palpatine and saving Luke, Vader dying in Luke's arms are all much better scenes than this. This one? It's just action. Cool and badass action, sure. But cool action set pieces can never be "the best scene" for any character other than Rambo or some other character of that type (which are meant to be basically there to provide action to a movie).

[@darrenwhite4602]

"We don't need to know their mothers' names." That almost sounds like a critical role reference.

[@Captain_Maeve]

Bidet Critter

[@Darkjonny79]

Illogical Brit Bidet

[@mickey4125]

Be pleased

[@ParadoxicWasHere]

Oi Oi! Bidet (but I think it was a BvS reference :P)

[@jedirulz123]

9:08 Lemony Snicket was the author, you mean Lemony Snicket's Monster

[@KingBeefalow]

Count Olaf?

[@jedirulz123]

@@KingBeefalow It's only Count Olaf if it's made in the Olaf region of France, otherwise it's just sparkling Jim Carrey

[@FullFatVideos]

This comment was clever and I award it with my like

[@olilea5522]

true, watch Netflix's version and you see David Warburton as Lemony Snicket. God this youtuber made a reference and didn't even research it before he included it smh

[@goORIOLES236]

OllyTheGinger Ah yes... It’s a lot like Star Trek: The Next Generation. In many ways it’s superior, but will never be as recognized as The Original Series.

[@Galimeer5]

The movie had to use a transmission because that's how A New Hope says the Alliance got the Death Star plans.

[@NinjaTyler]

Yeah he seems to forget star wars is a bigger established universe and this take place anywhere from hours to days before s new hope and it has to stick to those plot elements

[@RandominityFTW]

Watching the various major rebel groups come together into the Rebel Alliance and making the decision to mobilize was probably one of the most important scenes. That was far more important to the series as a whole than the momentary false tension of "Oh no, they're in trouble". Watching them mobilize was certainly far better than the Rebel Fleet just sorta appearing for no reason at all.

[@hp9351]

I accept all of your points except Vader filling the role of Tarkin. The lack of Vader in the film is what makes the last scene so great

[@muchanadziko6378]

he is in the film though It would be better if he would only appear in that scene

[@hp9351]

@@muchanadziko6378 I know he’s in the film. I’m saying he’s barely in it before that scene

[@muchanadziko6378]

@@hp9351 and I’m saying it would be better if he wasn’t at all prior to this

[@smittyjjensin558]

That title is some fighting words mate.

[@elliotlucas8497]

Smitty Jjensin Picasso is the worst artist ever. Why? Because he makes other artists look bad by comparison. I’m sorry but what a click bait title.

[@brycedavenport1252]

Oof Oof I can see what you mean. BUT. In a new hope Vader didn’t know where the plans where. That’s literally the only reason he didn’t just murder or imprison all the rebels on that ship. However in this scene case knew exactly where the plans were.(Right in front of him). And if the only thing between him and the plans is a handful of rebel soldiers, fuck yeah he’s gonna murder his way on through real quick. Darth Vader is ruthless and life has no real value to him unless he has something to gain from you. So if anything this scene PERFECTLY illustrates Darth Vader. (Plus like... he slaughter a shit ton of younglings simply because some wrinkly dude said it’d save his wife)

[@brycedavenport1252]

Oof Oof MetalBird is right. He kills his own soldiers all the time and do you remember when he crushed that rebels neck simply because he was annoyed in A New Hope? Darth Vader is a ruthless monster. And as for him not caring about the plans. The only reason he was on the ship in the first place was because that ship had the death star plans. The dude said to him “they’ve received a signal from the planet’s surface.” Which is why e said “Prepare a boarding party”. He was boarding the ship to get the plans.

[@brycedavenport1252]

Oof Oof OOOOH. I thought you were saying him murdering all those rebels was out of character. Lol. My bad. Yea. He did kinda just stand there like an idiot when he could’ve at least tried to do something. Like maybe if he attempted to force pull the ship before it made the jump or something. But I see what you mean... still tho I feel it was implied he was going after the plans. Maybe they could’ve done a bit more to show it.

[@brycedavenport1252]

Oof Oof Yeah, I was just confused on what you were saying. I love the more gritty and serious tone of this movie and I agree it the best of Disney’s Star Wars. I just wish they could’ve made the sequel trilogy anywhere near this good. It’s so sad cuz Force Awakens had a lot of potential.

[@tophatproductions3031]

"There is no tension in an invisible transmission being sent thousands of miles." correct for this movie, but what about SOS signals and other time sensitive macguffins?

[@Shatamx]

TopHatProductions Then do it like Alien. R1 seemed like a clear re write and they tossed darts at a board for ideas.

[@DjJ0SHWA]

7:32 Damn for some reason I never put together/realized that Krenic was killed by a DIRECT shot from the death star hitting the top of the tower

[@ForestRaptor]

oh yeah, that moment is epic XD

[@DeathBYDesign666]

You can be sure he didn't suffer any pain. He was pretty much just wiped from existence in an instant. I think it would have been cool If they showed a close-up of him being vaporized.

[@Wolf10media]

@@DeathBYDesign666 naah, distant shots better, imagination is key.

[@Piggehh]

holy shit i never noticed, thats fucking cool

[@hyperfire1134]

How did nobody notice i got it on my first viewing 😂

[@mistreme8341]

The intensity at the end with Vader's slaughter and the Rebel's desperation was necessary because it is the part of the story we all wondered had been going on before the start of Episode IV: A New Hope. This was a 'now for the rest of the story' moment for us old-timers! We who remember relishing the mystery that we'd just come into the middle of something bad when we first saw the 'Original Star Wars'! The implication in the Episode IV crawl was that the battle to smuggle out the Death Star plans had been a desperate and costly one. I always wondered how desperate and how costly that victory was and Rogue One answered that beautifully. The tension from Rogue One's ending to the beginning of A New Hope carries over well, in my opinion. The pursuit, the short space battle, the tense and spooky capturing of the Tantive IV, and then the vicious take-over and ransacking of the Rebels when Vader and his 501st come aboard all carry over from the Corridor Slaughter scene. The intensity of Vader's anger and hate with poor Captain Antillies as Vader crushes his neck and dashes him against the wall is also answered by the corridor scene. Rogue One is the best of the new Disney Star Wars films yet made. It was, actually, the only story worth telling because it filled a hole in the original story. The Solo film was also quite good and should be revisited as it covers a lot of the Han Solo mythos quite lovingly. I think it is a mistake not to carry on with that story since Maul's continued involvement in Galactic history needs some explaining, particularly since he played such a big roll in the Rebels storyline. But that is a discussion for another topic.

[@sndsunderstagel3114]

shut

[@jessepinkman6113]

Yeah it makes Leia's interaction funnier too. "We're here on a diplomatic mission to Alderran." And Vader's just standing there like bruh. "Do you think I'm stupid? _I literally just_ got through all your friends trying to get the stupid plans." Which tbf may also explain why he sounded especially angry in that scene, poor Ani got his feelings hurt lmaoooo

[@WillKrause21]

I think the analysis misses the tension that exists in Rogue One: We know the ending from the beginning. We know "Bothans (spys) died to get this information". We know how it's going to end, so instead of making it look like they might loose then giving us the resounding victory as in other movies, this one gives us hope by showing the rebels getting ready and showing up, even though we know how it will end.

[@genghisgalahad8465]

Will Krause I think the Bothans were for the Second Death Star with essentially the same weakness? Interesting...

[@ArcherKet]

@@genghisgalahad8465 the line about "many Bothans died" came from Return of the Jedi and refers to the information about where the second Death Star was located, the shield generator on the sanctuary moon, and the false information about the station not being operational yet. Palpatine gambled on giving some truthful information to the Rebels in order to draw them into his trap, so whatever information the Bothans managed to obtain was information Palpatine wanted leaked. I suspect that Palpatine may have killed most of the Bothans indirectly and let a couple escape with the information, and those that did escape didn't know that the Emperor had been the reason their lives were spared.

[@muchanadziko6378]

and yet we saw no Bothans in this movie. Or did we?

[@2ndairborneguy790]

10:47 I think that this is a false equivalency. Rogue One isn't an appetizer, main, dessert movie structure. It's more of a two appetizer, and then a main movie. The best part of the meal should be the climax, and Rogue One's climax is the 3rd act. I think your comparison undercuts the value of the third act compared to the first two.

[@mikewj94]

it’s well established that there are plenty of Force-wielding groups and peoples besides the jedi and sith.

[@rushankadri7677]

So what you're saying is, it's not the worst scene lol

[@franzferdinand5810]

I really think Donnie Yens character is one of the best in the movie. The whole point of him not being a jedi is great! Like the force is a power that isn't reserved for the Jedi or Sith to use. It shows that force sensetive people throughout the galaxy can develop different sets of skills, like the nightbrothers and sisters on Dathomir.

[@cj_zephyr732]

I understand what you’re saying, but I heavily disagree. Mainly with your point about the rebels preparing to fight compared to episodes 2 and 9. For me there wasn’t much tension for either of these cases in terms of backup arriving. In episode two I at least figured it was obvious Yoda would show up with an army, or that at least the Jedi would be all alright, as there’s still an entire film to go for the trilogy and killing dozens of Jedi would feel out of place after such a heavy action sequence. There’s no tension. In episode 9 it’s blatantly obvious that Lando will return with backup because at this point with Star Wars I predicted that as soon as Fin mentioned it. No tension there for me either. With Rouge 1, it’s not about are they coming, it’s about can Rouge team survive long enough for backup. That’s what the entire film was about, living long enough to do your duty. And it worked for me

[@itsvortex0162]

Fr, and his point about it just being on one planet... its a star wars movie planets are like citys to us

[@TheNord06]

like alfred hitchcock said, if you say there is a bomb under the table, tension increase immensely compared to bomb just going off randomly. saying reinforcements are coming increases tension of the scene and makes viewers pay attention to characters actions.

[@NicholasUnger]

Can’t wait for Rogue Two: A Eulogy for Bothans.

[@genghisgalahad8465]

Nick Unger I found out from New Rockstar that the Bothans line was exaggerated by Mon Mothma. I guess it's kinda the same way Fury inspired the Avengers with Coulson's bloodied baseball cards? I wanna see the Wolfman in the Kenobi or Andor series.

[@treemannick2969]

The sequel to rogue one is this weird old 70's movie called Star Wars

[@hawlitakerful]

@@treemannick2969 never heard of that is it sny good?

[@treemannick2969]

@@hawlitakerful It's pretty good

[@Kelis98]

Rogue One is a great movie. It’s also the best Disney Star Wars movie we’ve gotten so far.

[@yuyureishinoshojo]

that's way too true

[@BINGUS959]

@Ewan Callister no revenge of the sith is the greatest star wars movie of all time

[@an-animal-lover]

Don't be so quick to discount The Rise Of Skywalker

[@joshuamitchell7626]

@@an-animal-lover The Rise of Plot?

[@a.f9234]

Why everyone is praising the shit out of this movie it can't be considered a war movie because the 70% of is still space adventure. Characters are forgettable and bland just because they die doesn't make them good or doesn't mean they doesn't need development and fan Service and nostalgia is annoying as hell Yeah it might be Disney's best but it's still not a high bar for me people pretend this movie is so good so they can bash other movies while this movie also had lots of studio interference and reshoots Search your feelings you know it's true

[@DMoneyTaz15]

I think the "at the last moment" thing makes situations feel unrealistic, I liked the opening of rogue one haha

[@They_are_Arthur]

I agree. The idea that a small child could just barely escape some heavily armed troopers feels way too unrealistic. I prefer the idea that the child escaped faster.

[@DMoneyTaz15]

@@They_are_Arthur Not faster, you fucking idiot, sooner.

[@supremeburger2055]

@@DMoneyTaz15 chiiiiiiillllll

[@DMoneyTaz15]

@@supremeburger2055 Mind your goddamn business

[@They_are_Arthur]

@@DMoneyTaz15 why didn't you mind your own business in the first place.

[@MauroEnfermoDeLepra]

Adding the lightsaber completely ruines Chirrut, it cheapens his ability IMO

[@micahwright5901]

That fight sucks though. They run right in range of his stick when keeping their distance and pelting him would’ve worked fine. He knocked out way too many for them to not catch on.

[@rockyseverino9230]

I dunno man. Even when i saw the film in the theater I thought the same thing. If you're gonna make a blind guy be able to fight entire squads of storm troopers with a stick and win, then he's a Jedi basically. So if you're gonna do that, you're not fooling me if you just say he is something else. In my head canon he's a Jedi who barely survived order 66, lost his sight and is in hiding. It's the only thing that makes sense Or make his character more realistic. I mean, at least dare devil got splashed with some kind of special acid that seems to have enhanced him somehow What this guy is doing is impossible without some kind of added element, such as the force, or some other explanation.

[@matthewbreytenbach4483]

@@rockyseverino9230 He is using the force, just to a limited degree. He's spent most of his life training to expand his awareness and can sense the world around him, he just can't wield the force like a natural force sensitive can e.g telekinesis. There's a book about him and Baize if you're interested.

[@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820]

Honestly I was slightly rooting for this to be the first Star Wars movie with no lightsabers at all. I won’t complain about the Vader scene, but it was so close. Chirrut was a brilliant example of a character strong in the force who doesn’t need a lightsaber to be a badass.

[@selonianth]

@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 I don't really see how him using a lightsaber changes anything. I do disagree that he might as well have been using one that FullFat said, as there is a distinct difference between Jedi/Sith and the other force-using traditions that have cropped up, but I disagree that him using a lightsaber would change much about his character. About the inclusion *of* those other traditions, yes, about him? no. I say this because it's not like there aren't Jedi who were nearly unstoppable without a lightsaber. Mace Windu, while the best swordsman in the whole order, is also just as devastating against anyone that isn't also a Jedi/Sith without a lightsaber. The 2D clone wars may be noncanon now, but there's still a scene there which shows what Mace can do even without a lightsaber. I'm also fairly sure that there ARE people who aren't Jedi who still wield lightsabers because they're... just genuinely very effective weapons.

[@joshuazeidner5169]

The other big point we're forgetting is that putting Vader on the beach also means changing the fate of the characters. It would only work if the rebels made it off the planet. Vader wouldve died on the beach along with the rest of them if he was there

[@matthewk.5118]

K-2SO had plenty of personality though. Most of it comes through jokes about being a robot, but he has more conjured more emotion than the rest of the cast. Good character, imo.

[@AedanTheGrey]

Not bad for being just a non-sociopathic HK47

[@carverl51]

"He looks like Lemony Snicket" That's actually Count Olaf but okay

[@iCloud12]

XD got eem

[@upsyloownmusic]

4:35 In Episode IX we actually know because Disney had the great idea to show the scene with all the ships in a trailer

[@alexwells225]

If I recall, they revealed that Darth Maul had a double bladed lightsaber in the trailer for the Phantom Menace. Completely took away from scene. Imagine that they hadn't shown it in the trailer and it was revealed when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were about to square off with Maul... People would've lost their shit.

[@upsyloownmusic]

@@alexwells225 well I'm glad I was too young to see the trailer lmao

[@thislookslikepatrick5070]

@@upsyloownmusic me too

[@justanothercayleb820]

I love how Vader used the force to redirect a blaster bolt back into the rebel soldier.

[@inspectorwinship9538]

Everyone knew how the film was going to end so it's very hard to create tension under those circumstances and if you put Vader in charge of Scarif, then you make him impossibly bad at his job. He loses the Death Star plans, then lets the Death Star get blown up. A massive failure. But I digress. This wasn't a movie about characters. It was a movie about an idea. These were just ordinary soldiers who took on an impossible task and gave their lives for that idea. None of them are super soldiers that can force jump and deflect blaster fire. Jyn's motivation is simple; she wants to clear her father's name, but over the course of the story she meets others who are also fighting for their families, but in different ways. I know I'm gonna catch all the Hell, but everyone in Rogue One is fighting to save. what. they. love. Every movie is flawed; stop looking for perfection in art or you're going to live a very unfulfilling life. Rogue One is an excellent Star Wars film.

[@garrymoloney9570]

He’s not on the beach because he still hates sand.😄

[@deviles]

Nice one.

[@an-animal-lover]

When will people stop with that lame joke?

[@muscledog666]

Vader cant be on the beach because he has no sunscreen

[@seandabest4329]

@@an-animal-lover you want people to stop quoting the prequels? Oh, I don't think so.

[@Greav22]

matt roberts if you’re not with me, then you’re my enemy

[@bobbyferg9173]

9:09 You say that the CGI Tarkin looks like Lemony Snicket yet you seem to be referring to Count Olaf instead based on the movie poster you pulled up

[@noahkang3910]

The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider unnatural...

[@noahdrunyon]

Vader in the hallway: "Gentlemen I hate to inform you but, you're all dead"

[@DimoB8]

The hallway scene is the best way to introduce someone to Vader. Let's say you lived under a rock and don't know anything about Darth Vader and you watch this scene. Starting there is tension , you can feel the terror of the soldiers. And then his sabre lights up, the hallway is lit up by a crimson glow. The VERY moment they see him they start begging for help, as they are cut down, effortlessly , systematically , brutally. What you can take away from this , is that he's: A) Obviously the Baddie B) Powerful and Fear Inducing C) Unstoppable He's a Sith Lord , the Emperors Enforcer, the monster under the Rebels' bed.

[@TrapperSnapper02]

If you think about it, the whole movie could serve as an introduction to Darth Vader. A way in which the movie makes you believe that the Jedi are extinct is by showing the fallen statue on Jedha. But when we finally see Vader ignite his lightsaber, that moment could almost serve as a reveal that he is was once a Jedi. He wields the same weapon as the Jedi statue on Jedha, only instead of wielding it protect peace in the Galaxy, it is now used to enforce tyranny. Under this interpretation, Darth Vader can be seen as the remnant of a bygone era and a fallen angel since he was once a member of an order that the characters in Rogue One longed to see return and restore peace to the Galaxy. But instead of being a guardian of peace, he has now been reduced to a sinister weapon of the Empire.

[@freesciencelessons5100]

Wish this was an April’s fools my dude. It’s a good film

[@porkeywings]

I thought it was boring tbh, the rebels era without any jedi characters is the most boring time period in all star wars to me

[@solojbird4974]

Wrong

[@devildavin]

i thought it was boring, i was hoping for Star-wars Veitnam the way the trailers and screen shots we got to see before it released and we got what we got and i was just bored by it.

[@Heyiya-if]

@@devildavin A lot of Vietnam vets describe the trauma of Vietnam as a soulgrinding mixture of mindnumbing boredom interspersed with bouts of abject terror.

[@nickdimitre]

@@porkeywings that just shows your lack of appreciation of the Star Wars universe. After the Jedi were killed off, Jedi were so rare that expecting the rebels to have them at their disposal is just stupid. It’s a Star Wars war movie about the sacrifices people make to help their cause which is pretty powerful. The Star Wars universe isn’t all about Jedi and sith, it’s a universe with those two types of people in them. It was mad refreshing to see a movie that wasn’t about a jedi and just showed the universe the way it was.

[@hailon_rias7341]

Personally Rogue 1 is my favourite Star Wars movie, I thought it was a lot more interesting than a lot of the main story ones(plus I love a movie where the heroes die saving the day)

[@steamboatwill3.367]

Intressting how? That someone got subjected to tentacle hentai in a SW film.

[@Fatestcates]

I agree

[@Heyiya-if]

Agreed, Rogue One is imo the greatest of the Star Wars movies, and criminally misunderstood.

[@r3shorts377]

"WELL, WHY DID YOU LIKE DINNER IF YOU ONLY ATE THE DESSERT, DIANE?!?!" Killed me. XD

[@Echo-pz5mi]

there's some trauma behind that line, i can feel it

[@terrypankhurst7601]

I love it when content creators present their opinion like they are an expert in the industry, or even like they have all the right answers.

[@sheevpalpatine2231]

Honestly, I did want more Tarkin because he is honestly one of the most fascinating and underused characters in the franchise, at least on screen.

[@charles82605]

Well, he did die in the first Star Wars ever made. He is an excellent character, but kinda hard not to underuse a dead character. Though it’d be cool if we got some origins, which we kind of are now in the last season of Clone Wars and now in Bad Batch.

[@carsonhome6514]

I feel like your singing two songs here. On one hand your saying that you want it to be unique, while on the other your complaining that Donnie Yen is not a Jedi and that it isn't like ep 2&9 where you don't know if the cavalry is coming.

[@wiskyr6510]

To be fair, playing devil's advocate, I think the first point on him not being a Jedi is that either he shouldn't have been in the movie, or he shouldn't have been made out to be a jedi-like character in a non-jedi film, seems to be just a bit redundant and counterintuitive. For the second point, I think that he's referring to it more in terms of movie making and not in terms of similarity, citing instances in previous movies that had executed the same concept properly, showing that it's not outside the realm of SW writers to execute it that way.

[@leojake878]

i actually liked donnie yen cause it showed thst the force is in every living creature and someone who believes strongly enough can draw power and belief

[@nickdimitre]

@@leojake878 ntm that not all force users are Jedi and Sith, the Star Wars universe is way more diverse and bigger than that. All we have seen force users be in the past is Jedi or sith, so it’s refreshing to see someone use the force that isn’t in one of those categories.

[@leojake878]

@@nickdimitre Facts 100%

[@Randerson2409]

"The most memorable things about these characters are there skill-set and abilities" That's totally fine, as long as we're talking about playable classes in a video game

[@NinjaTyler]

I mean seven samurai you barely know many of them outside one or two backstory things and mostly their skills and yet that's a masterpiece.

[@elliotkouame3849]

Except we do know about Lando's success, because it's in the trailers

[@bebecranney8740]

Trailers are made by different people, don't blame the movie for that especially when there are so many things you can blame The Rise of Skywalker for

[@genghisgalahad8465]

True that.

[@ilidan007]

I actually enjoyed the movie quite a lot. But I get where you're coming from with this scene showing how poor the rest of the movie might seem. Yes the first two acts have a lot of problems in them but overall I enjoyed it. I was happy to see Saw's ending. You can sort of see how he's fallen in his ways and how affected he was by the events of the clone wars. I agree with Vader's final scene being the best the movie has to offer for sure along with the best pun our boi Vader has ever produced. "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations director" - priceless

[@MrZackavelli]

4:40 Really? You couldn't see the Lando-led cavalry coming? I saw through this set-up the second the movie explained it to me. It was just another instance of the sequels not using Billy Dee Williams nearly enough, in order to build up to an incredibly transparent set-up. At the point when the Jedi show up on Geonosis, there are still a million theoretical ways the story of the prequels could end, the most obvious being that everyone but Anakin, Obi-Wan and Padme is killed and the three's hostage status could set the stage for Episode III. Not to mention that the actual cavalries are used in completely different ways. The clones are actually seen doing something. It's illustrated on the screen how timely their arrival was and the difference they made. As far as the Lando-led cavalry goes, are they shown doing anything at all? They show up, and that's pretty much it. When Palpatine sucks up the dyad force power thing or whatever the hell it is, he's in complete control. The fleet may as well not even have shown up. It makes no difference whether they're present or not, because Palpatine is going to zap them all anyways. It's purely a plot device to cash in on the nostalgia of redoing the end to Return of the Jedi.

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

"Dont need to know their mothers name" "MARTHAAAAA"

[@rorcknar]

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

@@rorcknar MARTHA!!!! MAAAARRTHHHAAAAAAAAA

[@micahwright5901]

@@dirtydeeds4free553 MOTHRA!!!!

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

@@micahwright5901 *moth mother enters scene right* join the light side of the force bruce *procceds to flap into the nearest light*

[@SourRobo8364]

Feels like the title should be: "Vader Breaks Rogue One"

[@The_Worst_Warlock]

Yeah but what gets more clicks?

[@SourRobo8364]

@@The_Worst_Warlock I hate clickbait titles. Don't care if it gets more views.

[@The_Worst_Warlock]

I Slay Goblins well you still clicked on this so idk man...

[@The_Worst_Warlock]

I Slay Goblins I will say that your title is better so there’s that.

[@SourRobo8364]

@@The_Worst_Warlock Thank you, that's very nice.

[@mattrobert5]

Imagine not thinking this film is tense. Like damn they do the all hope lost moment like 4 times

[@nickokona6849]

Rogue One is my second favourite Star Wars film. But the inclusion of Darth Vader is biggest piece of fan service I wish wasn't in the film. I get that it gives people that scene of Darth Vader just railroading the good guys that we never really got in the original trilogy. But it really does kneecap Vader from A New Hope. By comparison he looks a lot more tame in ANH. That being said, the directing of the sequence was absolutely as perfect as it could have been. Focusing on the horrifying reaction to Vader instead of focusing on Vader himself was brilliant.

[@plutoburn]

The main characters were originally planned to be the ones in the corridor. But they felt it was too gruesome for all the main cast to die by Vader in one fell swoop.

[@mrpro538]

Are you kidding. That would have been SO AWESOME!!!! Seeing that the villains can and will beat the main characters is a great way to end. Too bad they scrapped it. Great movie anyway tho.

[@cinemagoose]

All that you say is true, yet this movie is still my favorite Star Wars movie. (tied with Revenge of the Sith)

[@brgerwzrd54]

Yep. 100% agree

[@privatebh]

Cinema Goose by far my favorite Star Wars movie

[@rustkarl]

I agree with you and your ranking.

[@AedanTheGrey]

Quality and enjoyment are not necessarily exclusive See: Twilight and Fifty Shades

[@jagbarakor1303]

When you see "Tarkin" for the first time in Rogue One, Tarkin feels real.

[@speedhog58]

7:33 I literally only just noticed that Krennic got vaporised by the laser before it hit Scarif...

[@They_are_Arthur]

Fucking murdered by his own Death Star.

[@rustkarl]

King Arthur That was the point. Ironic and Karmic death.

[@21stcenturyhiphop]

Wouldn't be a Death Star without death...

[@NeonPanda64]

You know what sucks that I just realized about that Vader scene..? He’s using the force to throw dudes into the air instead of the damn disc that he’s there for. Like you’re a foot away from it, just grab that shit with the force, right? I choose to ignore it tho, because I love that scene

[@eznosnopes5276]

What if he didn’t know it was on the disc yet?

[@VikingSchism]

I'm not sure I agree that it's inherently less tense to know that backup is arriving. One of the best books I've ever read has this sort of setup - a defending force has to endure a siege until another army arrives to provide relief. The issue? It's going to take a week. They reckon they could only withstand the siege for 3 or 4 days maybe. The tension there isn't about whether the backup will arrive. It's whether they'll survive *long enough* for the backup to arrive

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

5:56 In her father's memory, so what he sacrificed all that time with her to do wouldn't be wasted and for revenge on the people who made it so that she had grown up an orphan. At least that is how I understood it.

[@stephensylvarwolf7940]

Against good and evil? I believe the word you were looking for, good Sir, is "between"

[@julius-stark]

Rogue One has problems but compared to the other Diseny SW movies it's Citizen Kane.

[@sirloin8745]

Senior Woodz it's always easier to criticise someone else's work. 🙄

[@pandogstudios1512]

@@sirloin8745 I mean yeah but you're not really making a point

[@julius-stark]

@@sirloin8745 especially when I've been studying the subject of the work for decades. I've had people criticize my work and I welcome it, it teaches me what I'm doing right and what I need to work on. Hollywood needs to learn that.

[@julius-stark]

@Geralt of Trivia very sound argument. That's a God teir response.

[@CloudMountainJuror]

Except Force Awakens and Last Jedi made me give a shit about what was happening because I was at least invested a tiny bit in the characters and plot. While Rogue One left me so disengaged I couldn't bother to care about anything going on in the third act because the first two acts failed so miserably in making me give a shit abouut these people. Jyn felt like a literal piece of cardboard.

[@Azazreal]

I actually totally disagree with you on Chirrut. He is NOT a Jedi, he doesnt use the Force at all. He is simply a believer and sensitive to the way of the Force. Its supposed to show that even without the Jedi, the Force still moves through people. Making him a Jedi would literally ruin his character

[@OscarASevilla]

Rise of Skywalker took their ending from Avengers endgame. You want another endgame style fight, but if every single encounter occurs like this in every movie, is it becomes typical and not special...

[@Miller09095]

I've always thought that Rogue One is painful because it's close to being a masterpiece Star Wars movie but a few things make it not quite reach that level.

[@denisl2760]

More than just a few. I still liked it though, but it does have problems.

[@BestBoyPatrick]

I really bloody enjoyed rogue one myself

[@RyanGosling6]

Remember how Anakin turned on his lightsaber, now Darth Vader turned on his lightsaber..

[@ForestRaptor]

I don't get this one :x

[@an-animal-lover]

Me neither

[@smeltstarverse7306]

The Youngling scene

[@chaosXP3RT]

The beach battle, the space battle and Vader were the best for me, because it feels like a real war, something I've desperately wanted to see more of in Star Wars. The Battle of Hoth and a few other scene are all you really get in the Original Trilogy. Otherwise you follow the main heroes in their quests away from the nitty gritty, bloodshed of frontline combat. It's my fascination with a Sci-Fi space war that I love to see

[@QueerComics1994]

"He looks like Lemony Snicket." *Visible Confusion*

[@CreepingHistory]

I really enjoyed rogue one and it’s definitely one of my favorite Star Wars movies. I might not agree with a lot of your points (except that the Vader bit is the best scene) but hey I still really enjoyed the video.

[@oswald_1927]

Vader isn’t fighting on the beach because he doesn’t like sand

[@elijahspangler1740]

underrated

[@nikiprytherch8852]

I totally agree has he not watched the prequels when Anakin is master flirting with padme

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

11:43 DID YOU SERIOUSLY ASK WHY DARTH VADER WASN'T ON THE BEACH ?!

[@genghisgalahad8465]

Miniature Jayhawk comment Above already came up with: he hates sand.

[@Tubeman244]

Tarkin was needed, he acts as Krennic's political & ambition rival. The Death Star is Tarkin's obsession cause it's the pinnacle embodiment of the "Tarkin Doctrin" while the only interest Vader has in it is being under orders from Sidious to not have it compromised, other than that Vader could care less as his line in a New Hope shows when he dismisses the bragging of the Death Star's power compared to the Force. Vader as well unlike Tarkin would never work as a political/ambition rival for Krennic to play off of cause when the "Angel of Death" can literally choke you out at any time with invisible space magic & has a lightsaber, can you really call yourself his rival?

[@Mangeen]

I dont know about anyone else but I saw the whole "help arrives at the last second" a mile away in rise of skywalker

[@sebastianking5271]

Same it was trying to be endgame but I had no emotional ties to the thousands of faceless people like it did the thousands of people I somewhat knew like the Wakandans and the sorcerers