First 18-23 Mustang GT with 24 Intake, Dual Throttle bodies! Dyno test against 18 Manifold!

[@markuaw1]

Some of the best content I've seen in a minute. thanks for all the hard work from both you guys, 🙏 can't wait for spring to get here, so I can get my damn car out of the garage and start aggravating Derel again 😎

[@SpeedAddict731]

Thanks.

[@TheSalty.1]

Great video Ken that's what it's all about TESTING that's how you learn keep up the great work.

[@SpeedAddict731]

@@TheSalty.1 appreciate it!

[@stevensink5544]

Love it Ken and Wengerd performance! Ken your the reason I went with Wengerd on my 97,000 mile 120 mile a day ESS G3 10 r car I live in the northeast and my Velocity Blue GT is white right now from salt from all the snow we’ve had here! But I will say it was -1 degree this morning and in August we had temperatures in the 100 degree plus and this car runs incredibly well in either one! Thanks Mr Wengerd!

[@Lunatikgixxer]

You and wengerd doing some cool stuff

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

you can see the differences in resonance tuning between the two manifolds on those dynos runs, especially in the mid-range. the later mid-range bump for the 24+ manifold indicates that its going to peak later as well. good stuff guys

[@Adam-nv9zo]

1:57 excuse me....what did you call us? 😂

[@SpeedAddict731]

Lmao got tongue tied for a second 😂😂😂

[@8lakk5unshine]

Cool video. I was waiting to see someone try to make this work since there must be hundreds of these sitting around after the Whipple craze.

[@PinksGarage]

I like the testing you did. Fun ti watch. Interesting video. Hope to see some more like this. I'm going back to my 18 on my 2016 soon

[@EVOLHORSE]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 HPR X WENGERD 🙌

[@4vchuckles108]

Awesome video as always!! Great to see the difference between the two.

[@chrism.728]

Would love to see you guys compare the 2024+ intake with dual-throttle to GT350/Bullitt intake on a Shelby GT350 since that car loves to rev into the higher RPM range. See if the 2024+ picks up or loses power compared to GT350/Bullitt manifold at WOT.

[@admintuning]

Big gains up top!

[@Blue_50]

Big money Ken YOU BACK!! TOOK FOREVER‼️

[@paulhudgins5120]

Very cool and awesome data for a real world comparison between these 2 manifolds, that is some interesting stuff guys. I don't know about you but the 24 manifold with dual throttle bodies does look more impressive to the eyes.

[@TheLoneWolf_andCoyote]

that area under the curve is impressive between 7400-8000 rpm if the car has a aftermarket hood to allow for induction clearance that would be a good setup.

[@timwindsor03]

Awesome video ken. Thanks for sharing. Tell Miss Pam i said hello. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible day. Mùch love and RESPECT

[@SpeedAddict731]

@@timwindsor03 will do and same to you

[@abrahammoua4748]

Nice, was waiting for this.

[@SpeedAddict731]

@@abrahammoua4748 I was very curious. It’s always interesting to see comparisons like this.

[@TheBFam123]

The question is now with a Roush supercharger kit hold the power better than a Whipple kit?

[@bitedawg]

awesome video gentelmen!

[@dwilliams3828]

awesome content!

[@CoyoteAUS]

Love the experimentation!

[@SpeedAddict731]

Thanks. It’s interesting for sure.

[@5.0monte]

Two of the best in the game🔥 hate it or love it

[@earronroberts7658]

Cool data! Thanks Ken and Daryle....

[@freedom6919741]

That’s my Tooner!

[@livestrib3752]

HPR 🤝 Wengerd

[@victorxavier9977]

Great video guys thx for putting it together! Was this done at your new shop? If so looks great 👍

[@SpeedAddict731]

Thanks and no it was not at my shop. A dyno up by Daryle.

[@midnight347]

How do you tune for this manifold? *edit* Nevermind i see that it isnt a direct mod it takes some wiring plus alot on the tuning side. Ill go with a cj it costs more but its tried and true. Answer given i jumped the gun.

[@rldeppe1]

Be interesting comparing GT350 intake to the 2024.

[@SpeedAddict731]

I would like to see this as well.

[@rldeppe1]

@@SpeedAddict731 nice job on this video. I wouldn't have thought that 2024 intake would improve that much up top. I'm assuming your were on e85 making them runs.

[@8lakk5unshine]

I had heard that the dual throttle body and intake was meant to go on the GT 350 but that it wasn't finished in time so it wasn't included.

[@humblegaming6936]

You guys should port the 24 manifold and see what it does

[@SpeedAddict731]

I’ll see if he wants to.

[@DanielChapa-hf9rw]

Wonder the difference on F150 set up?

[@BoostedF150]

Great video and info

[@gordydexter2615]

Hi Ken. Good video!!! I like the S650 Mustang but it is irritating that we don’t have the ECU/ECM encryption by now. I was told by one of the VPs from Ford that they released the encryption to Whipple, RTR, Roush, and Ford Performance so why in heck do we not have the ability to mod & tune the S650???? Very frustrating. Oh well I am hoping that we will get it soon in the Spring time!!!!! There is no reason to get the CJ if I am gonna put on the Whipple. I really wanna go with the ESS!!!! Thanks for the good video. Like what Daryl is testing!!!! Cheers Brother!!!! 👍👊💪🇺🇸🐎😎

[@SpeedAddict731]

Main reason I still don’t have a 24+. If I can’t do what I want with it. I don’t want it right now.

[@Archangel3083]

Ok, hear me out………twin ESS blowers 😳

[@SpeedAddict731]

Don’t put that idea back in his head lol. We have already talked about it. Not worth it in my opinion but for uniqueness and just plain different it would be cool if someone had the money just to toss around.

[@slowpok_5.067]

Great video sir, this is why they should call you guys the dynamic duo. So, can you add a larger throttle body on the 18 and get the same power?

[@SIK50H]

Hell yeah !!!!

[@jeffibuilt]

I can't wait to see this boosted. I bet the difference is going to be huge up top

[@Drummer4C87]

What about a ported 18 manifold?

[@shawnsitter5390]

Awesome content.

[@DanielChapa-hf9rw]

Thoughts on a turbo set up with this 24 manifold?

[@giftedcracker]

Id like to see the same comparison with longtubes. I heard the gen4s have much bigger gains with headers

[@smoovefishing]

Good information!

[@SpeedAddict731]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@Frostbit5.0]

Wonder how this compares to a ported boss with boost

[@jimmymccormick142]

Great video always enjoy your content great job looking forward to seeing you guys at the track showing the so called competition the taillights Ford power forever baby a real Chevy and dodge killer the best never rest they just keep getting better has a Ford blu by you later come get some

[@kyleglosson4820]

What about the Maf sensor

[@SpeedAddict731]

Not used. Converted over to map

[@kyleglosson4820]

@ awesome thank you

[@boosted10speed]

Good stuff for them N/A boys!!! HPR & Wengerd Performance doing the work that nobody else can!!! Data data ..valuable 💯

[@TinaJohnston-i3d]

thanks for the vid

[@728GT]

The twins carrying 😮

[@davidaleman8055]

So compared to a CJ set up is it kinda close?

[@midnight347]

Nothing beats a cj. If it is set up properly it is the best manifold for a 5.0. With cams it shines anyone running cj should do at least l&m intake only cams if not a full set of cams. It will make power at high rpm better it has to be setup to take advantage of it. It obviously costs more but it is the best.

[@jaythewrapper239]

@@midnight347so far with my ported cj/ monoblade it runs really good

[@Bagd5oh]

Wow this is interesting info definitely curious what hp gains come from porting the 24+ mani

[@Juanito548]

so how come the gen 4 crate with dual intakes is not tunable but the gen 4x crate is? seems like the stock PCM offers independent throttle mapping on each throttle body. unless im 100% wrong and ford is making it look like the twin throttle bodies are complicated

[@NicholasRoss-zw5vx]

what about a cobra jet manifold with vmp 69 throttle body against the 24 manifold?

[@high-rise8505]

Very nice! 🇺🇸

[@paulsmith-ld8xl]

Sweet good info

[@jpsantone]

That’s a cool comparison. I guess you can see a little as to what the ford engineers were thinking.

[@SpeedAddict731]

True. I’ve been wondering why they did it. Looked like a lot of engineering, so I hoped it made a difference

[@jessefrias2575]

Worthless mod tbh. 18 makes more torque. Port job will carry out the powerband. Good data video though!

[@SpeedAddict731]

Data is always good. I love to see comparisons between things to see how they stack up. Like I said in the video I would do a cobra jet.

[@dom_not_torretotedesco5707]

I highly disagree, a port job could possibly carry the power some but 40+ hp up too is serious power for cheap, not to mention I’d your doing cams, or maybe swapping it into a gen1/gen2 that’s substantial. If someone could make a plug and play style install kit guys would jump on this mod and be damn happy with it

[@mikehughes8023]

@@dom_not_torretotedesco5707the money for cams is expensive for a minimum gain in hp so just go with boost. The gen 2 & 3 GTs are the only ones worth it. The new Mustang is a dud.

[@opossom1968]

Not looked ahead, i believe the 18 will be better. The 24 does look cool, but my money is on the 18 being the better choice.

[@madmotorhead9425]

First! good info! what do think ported 18 vs 24?

[@jameshows5419]

So if the 24 intake is less restrictive than the 18 intake that should mean installing boost should result in more HP and Torque in the 24 intake

[@Maniac-mustang]

How does the boss intake hold up?

[@d3et1roi3t]

Is that white stang Daryle's old On 3 Turbo car? Thats the car I found Wengerd on youtube prob almost 8 years ago?

[@SpeedAddict731]

@@d3et1roi3t no sir. That is his 18 car he has for testing the turbo car was a 15. He still has it and then he also has the 20 ESS car that he test with as well. All of them are white.

[@d3et1roi3t]

@@SpeedAddict731 Man, cant believe I didnt notice it was an 18+. Lol Like i said 8 years ago or ya 15. lol You boys doing good over there one day I will have yall build me something.

[@bbq5.0]

Could you have the 18 ported

[@SpeedAddict731]

Yes

[@matt7sixty]

Great video. We need rpm not speed on dyno. Great test

[@SpeedAddict731]

I agree. Something was going on with that for some reason. Daryle is going to look at the log in mph and rpm and out the rpm on the graph so we can see it. I’m sure there will be more testing in the future on this car.

[@avgjoe1836]

Very interesting. Been thinking about an intake swap myself!

[@SpeedAddict731]

No lol.

[@supertruckertom]

I like that shop. What are the dimensions?

[@SpeedAddict731]

Not sure on that shop. It’s not mine that is a dyno up by daryle.

[@Boudreaux_TnWildlife]

need this tested on gen2

[@AndrewBaker302]

Makes sense why the 350 manifold is better at high RPMs, larger TB

[@midnight347]

It's not just the throttle body the manifold itself makes power at higher rpm that is what it was made for.

[@Zander13Productions]

😮

[@rynev3392]

Would’ve liked to see the graph with RPM instead of MPH

[@SpeedAddict731]

me as well.

[@10r80sergio]

A map signal Mustang? That’d be so good for boost

[@SpeedAddict731]

Yea we can do it on 18+. Been talking about messing with the 15-17 and see if we can get it to work. Definitely wouldn’t have to worry about maf placement on turbo setups.

[@bjarnejrgensen3046]

But what about torque?

[@humblegaming6936]

Is this car on 93 or E?

[@SpeedAddict731]

E

[@BolilloAutoTech]

@@SpeedAddict731full pump e85?

[@R0cketRed]

Who else is at work watching this while designing a machine to test GM manifold pressures after assembly, leak testing.

[@RealSVTJunkie]

Interesting..

[@trevorcunning6248]

Excuse my ignorance but who is revving their engine out to eight thousand RPM? What other modifications are on the car other than the 2024 intake manifold?

[@rebelyell22]

Pretty much every tuned Coyote revs to 8k

[@o0purehate0o]

I believe Wengerd has mine shifting at like 7800+ on a ess supercharged 18 a10 gt.

[@trevorcunning6248]

@rebelyell22 oh Roger that. All I keep on hearing is that people are afraid of their oil pump gears going out so they shift around 7000 or 7,500

[@o0purehate0o]

@trevorcunning6248 I think more so with opg it's just keeping it off the limiter. I have mine done already but yeah plenty of ppl shifting closer to if not at 8k

[@rldeppe1]

​@o0purehate0o yep I agree. I try and shift at 8k. I have accidentally hit 8,200 before. No rev limiter on mine. I wouldn't let anyone else drive mine.

[@joshuarichard4493]

Love the content guys, but I have to call the test incomplete since you did not have hood on. We all know that skews the numbers.

[@SpeedAddict731]

Appreciate it! We were testing between the two intakes to compare. They were both tested the exact same way so nothing was skewed for the data we wanted.

[@B49nope]

Just go boost.

[@SpeedAddict731]

1000% agree

[@slyeastwood]

It’s a money grab. Double the parts

[@jaythewrapper239]

Look y’all hmu for porting on your stock 18 and you will gain more then doing this

[@SpeedAddict731]

I’d like to see a ported 18 and other manifolds as well. Definitely don’t think we are done testing this. So much I want to see

[@scottmalone25]

Thats cheap power. Nice

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

No it's not The 24's are Gen 3's Too.. Here's the proof.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYiucmp3Z6mNosk kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3uapYGnrr52jrc Wake up people it's a Gen 3 with 2 stupid throttle bodys on it...

[@SpeedAddict731]

Yep, Gen 3 coyotes are in the 24 mustangs. They added two throttle bodies and couple little other things. It originally said gen3 S550 Mustang GT. I was changing it when I was making it public and the Title was meant to have 18-23 in front of Mustang GT. But when I released the video it didn’t save and I didn’t catch it until later. If you change the video title it messes stuff up with KZbin so I left it. But to save issues from more comments like this I’m changing it lol.

[@50Hlyfe]

Looks similar to a GT350 manifold power curve for the S650 mani

[@SpeedAddict731]

@@50Hlyfe I agree.

[@yoganlates7775]

Hell yeah!