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[@fsmoura]

But Rip! Without functional training how am I going to strengthen my ＣＯＲＥ ???

[@curlean-x4443]

LOL!

[@Emperor_x8]

Fucking

[@bbrockRailFan]

Again take up wrestling or martial arts. Nothing more functional than these two endeavors.

[@calisthenicsbeliever7602]

Ever heard of ab raises? Dragon flags? Ab wheel? And a plethora of other effective exercises for core

[@treasurethetime2463]

@@bbrockRailFan haha. Wrestling exposes all of your weak muscles.

[@liamriddy358]

As Elgin would say: Functional training can mean anything, so it means nothing.

[@killerDIRK1]

Liam Riddy love that TrapLord .

[@curlean-x4443]

Well said

[@mikkafication]

zerooooooo

[@DIAKUMAS]

excactly that s right

[@kuidelu]

It start meaning something if you precise for what. Emelianenko Fedor's training is highly functional for MMA.

[@Cloppa2000]

I often have to unload bales of hay whilst standing on one leg in a canoe.. Functional training is perfect for jobs like mine! 🤣 🤣

[@wilfdarr]

The day you have to unload a moose or a half dozen caribou you'll appreciate it. I agree most “functional” training is not, but there's merit to other exercises besides squats, dead lifts, rows, and presses!

[@kw12784]

@@wilfdarr I agree (depending on what you're referring to), but the exercises you listed are absolutely functional, they just don't market as well as shitty coaches that don't have much/any knowledge would like

[@wilfdarr]

@@kw12784 Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that they weren't, only that they seem to be the only functional exercises accepted

[@jacobbrandt5961]

HIP DRAHVE

[@holmgeirgautreksson2451]

A SET O FAHVE

[@Cenot4ph]

HWY

[@Magnus_Loov]

SKWAHT.

[@bbrockRailFan]

I feel if a person is more concerned about functional training then by all means take up a sport like martial arts or wrestling. These two sports are the perfect examples of function training.

[@davidjd123]

and none of it works, I was boxing for many years and did a lot of that stuff, the best exercises were, jump squats, jumping pushup's, and chinups, all the other stuff was for nothing, most of my conditioning came from sparing, If I had to turn back, ID keep the jump squats, jump pushups and chins ups and add the barbell movements, id be a beast.

[@anarchic_ramblings]

@@davidjd123 I think his point was that 'martial arts or wrestling' are themselves 'functional': you learn to a useful life skill.

[@edbalboni]

You should call these short videos "Rips Rants"

[@ThaOfacemaker]

Ed Balboni or “Get Off My Fitness Lawn!”

[@donaldmahaya2689]

I prefer "Rip Rips"

[@fsmoura]

1:35 But that 8 pound chrome dumbbell is about as much as I can lift on my vegan diet!!

[@ResistanceQuest]

Have you ever seen a vegan who lifts

[@alialrahahleh676]

They left like woman

[@williamnunn8847]

Yes I have he is my calisthenics coach. He does a 140lb standing barbell shoulder press with perfect form.

[@zoranmatic8329]

@@ResistanceQuest yep, Kendrick Farris, Clarence Kennedy, Patrik Baboumian... images.app.goo.gl/hdiMqvQS1tXArAiCA images.app.goo.gl/qCfspLgmeUkYYXWn7

[@Garrick1983]

Dude you’re gonna make them cry with all that soy in their system.

[@truthbetold6496]

So much time is wasted on exercise that are not even needed, pec deck side laterals etc... I am glad i found starting strength its back to basic on what really works. Yes my training can be a bit longer since i rest a bit more but well worth it. Home gym with squat rack are the best

[@erdmax_]

This.

[@jacobjaramillo3192]

Starting Strength isnt be all end all. If you want to grow shoulders or increase chest striations pec deck and lateral raises are not a waste of time.

[@SuperPulseadasArmwrestling]

Hello Mark how are you? If i didnt followed the Star rehab protocol with my tricep strain and got scar tissue , how can i breack up that scar tissue that is making dificult to contract and train my tricep? Your reply would be game changing 🙌🏻 thank you

[@mrkarterhuh9830]

See this is why I love starting strength lol. I thought the compund movements press, squat deadlift etc.. were functional lol not stuff with light dumbells on bosu balls.

[@ResistanceQuest]

I thought the "functional training" thing had died down a bit but I guess it's having a comeback

[@williamnunn8847]

Power bags are functional training, as the movement path is variable. I think this has not died down. I think this improves the function of a person closer to every day movements.

[@curlean-x4443]

It never actually died down. It was reduced in moderately intelligent training populations, but most people are still stuck in that mindset.

[@TeroHonkasalo]

Crossfit is functional training. But of course it is also a brand. There is also a sport that is called Functional Fitness. functionalfitness.sport/

[@Madchris8828]

2 years later and it's back and dumber than ever. It's rarely useful

[@helgil6545]

@@Madchris8828 that Mario Rios guy...

[@zxcvbnm8141]

whats your onions in regards to club bell, Bulgarian bag and kettle bell exercises ?

[@LTPottenger]

I like to do one armed dumbbell presses sometimes, hope I don't have to stop!

[@cagataycakmak2280]

Cullan Shine Do what you like man. Who cares

[@Annxbbsbabd]

Cullan Shine why not just use both arms. Like how would doing one arm provide any benefit that using both arms doesn't. Unless you just enjoy doing single arm which would be a weird thing to enjoy or you want one arm to be stronger than the other which would be silly

[@1966johnnywayne]

I like doing one arm dumbbell curls, right before I go cruising by the local high school with my pumped arm hanging out the window...alright, alright, alright.

[@andrew-zr1pf]

Skateboarding is a functional exercise.

[@justinpetersen3179]

Functional exercises are exercises similar to the activity. Skateboarding itself is the activity not the exercise

[@andrew-zr1pf]

@@justinpetersen3179 bs. Skateboarding is like doing squats.

[@othalee]

I do functional training, but I've never heard of the things mentioned in this video. It's usually weighted dips, pull ups, burpees, power cleans, sprints, wheelbarrow work, etc. We don't focus on strength alone, its more about self defense and longevity. So I think the way a man works out depends on what he is trying to accomplish.

[@intellectualninjamonkey2496]

I agree. Stronglifts people use strawman arguments by describing the worst, most silly exercises that usually are included in globo gyms aerobic classes and then call them "functional training". What I mean by "functional" is back squatting then supersetting it with Bulgarian bag lunge while the front leg is on a balance cushion. Single kettlebell squatting, holding it in the "rack" only on one side (core activation, balance) and then running stairs. That is functional. Not curling pink dumbells on a bosu.

[@kw12784]

@@intellectualninjamonkey2496 "core activation"🙄😴 I defy you to do a heavy deadlift and not "activate" your core. But no, a 10kg dumbbell will do a MUCH better job of that than a 200kg deadlift🥴🥴

[@cgottschify]

arent you just describing exercise

[@patrickokeeffe4787]

Well you can take that 10kg dumbell and do single leg deadlifts and adapt to that movement and get quite good at it so that next time you drop something on the floor you'll be able to pick it up without losing balance and falling over lileva twat. That's functional training. No use being able to deadlift heavy weight when I can't bend over on one leg or stand up on one leg and support my own weight to let's say put on my pants and especially when I get older. I don't see his point either saying heavy deadlifts are functional unless you plan on lifting a car for someone so that they can change their tyre.😊

[@erikmielke9008]

So what do you think of squats, push-ups or pull-ups done with one arm or leg or the use of dummbells and rings? Are you going to tell me that they can't increase their weight? that the range of motion is not complete? that the bilateral version works better stability? that the floor or a bar is too unstable and is a limiting factor ? In any case, I believe that the problem is not isolateral movement , it is the use of unstable surfaces and not increasing the weight.

[@williamnunn8847]

I thought the body requiring to overcome an unstable surface or movement path will create adaptations in the muscle and nervous system to increase strength. There is also the argument that not limiting the amount of weight lifted in a specific exercise will maximise strength gains.

[@patricioansaldi8021]

Yrah same here. I wish he woild take it more seriously amd go into depth but maybe that's not what he means by "functional training"

[@fabiotieri3155]

I don't think that the mechanism of adaptation that the body would trigger in that circumstance, given than there is one, would lead the muscles to grow. Now, would you rather spend your time getting stronger or going ashtray? Also remember, if it looks stupid, it probably is, and if it's stupid is also pointless.

[@lastmanstandinggetsnopity]

Taking a dump is a bodily function. Squats help with that. Therefore squats are a functional training exercise. Sorry Rip old buddy.

[@nabiln656]

Does it include mace training??? Is gada workout worthless?

[@TheYawningPrawn]

I always thought of functional training being things like calisthenics and compound movements like snatches or power cleans rather than small isolated movements.

[@ethanchaney1139]

But that’s the thing tho, at a certain level of advancement in your training you’ll eventually need to incorporate more variables to continue making progress, which may involve isolation movements. Also isolation movements can/are still functional.

[@JJMaher1]

What’re your thoughts on the instability of gymnastic rings? Gymnasts seem to get stupid strong due to leverages and added instability on the rings

[@patricioansaldi8021]

Great question. I do feel like he underestimates how "stability" in muscle control is a large part of strength due to recruiting more muscle fibers and activating the nervous system more. I can see the limits in it, but more muscle recruitment and coordination ultimately can add a lot to your over all strength. Maybe there's a sweet spot involved

[@djgargoyle7078]

I'm not an expert but I would say that if a person wants to pursue gymnastics as a sport, it's better to develop strength with barbells first. It's more efficient to progress in the bench press than it is to progress in bodyweight dips, and safer.

[@JJMaher1]

I would have to disagree, from my experience benching 315 and also doing ring dips and muscle ups, the bench press doesn’t teach you how to move your scapula through a bodyweight pressing motion, because it’s holding a retracted position, while also being pressed into a bench...where the dip and push up allows for free movement from elevation and retraction in the bottom position to depression and protraction at the top of the movement. My shoulders are far more flexible now with the gymnastics training than they were with barbell training, as they should be. I also think someone would be better off doing what you suggested just in the opposite order. Learn how to move your body with gymnastic/bodyweight movements before you start adding external loads. A lot of top powerlifters have sport experience as children/young adults which is what gives them an edge from others, on top of their good genetics of course...

[@seanking6184]

Benoit Guimond Funny because if you look at most strength athletes pre 60s, the opposite is more true to the anecdotes, most bodybuilders, OL’s and strongman used calisthenics, gymnastics and handbalancing to develop strength as stability and gpp before lifting

[@runningoffinstinct]

When the teacher asks if you've done your homework - 0:00

[@patricioansaldi8021]

..........FUNCTIONAL TRAINING

[@GypsyKingTF]

Tell that to Functional Patterns, the bold guy will explode

[@conorscott430]

I say you train for what you want to get better at lads. Deadlift if you want to get better at deadlifting, do pistol squats on a bosu ball with one hand holding a dumbbell in the air if you want to get better at pistol squatting on a bosu ball with one hand holding a dumbbell in the air. That’s my functional training.

[@ShayanGivehchian]

That's correct. Rip's argument is that the resulting improvement from the basic barbell movements is more beneficial for everyone not that traditional functional training doesnt improve.

[@robreke]

I'm an organism and I'm proud

[@jms0313]

Functional training is for office workers to feel better about themselves

[@theanomaly3038]

I might spread and support those "functional" training to make sure squat rack in my gym always empty

[@tylerscott2116]

I wonder if rip would have objections to performing daily high rep squats, back bridges and push ups for relative strength endurance training, cause thats what real functional training is beyond strength training. Or does he think the only non sports specific training a person needs is strength training alone??....

[@jabberwock14]

Why the hell would you do daily high rep squats and push-ups, if you have access to a gym?

[@jackbeanstock8731]

Functional training to me is stuff like zercher squats, trap bar deadlifts, farmers carry, sled/wagon push and pull etc.

[@ricknicklen9059]

I do alternating dumbbell bicep curls to keep it functional

[@southpawje]

“If you ax me...” 😂 nice Ebonics there rip

[@chrishansen9731]

😏

[@curlean-x4443]

If functional means to improve function, then the movement pattern must be specific to the function that we want to improve. So unless your sport or discipline tests squatting with 8lbs dumbbells on a bosu ball, then it's not functional. Balance and coordination are not inherently functional. Neither is squatting or pressing if you are not competing in strengthlifting or powerlifting. Based on the simple definition of improving function in an organism, any physical activity is better than doing nothing. So technically, everything can be functional so nothing truly is functional. Mixing aspects of fitness (strength and endurance and power) will dilute adaptations from stimulus for each of these things, so it makes sense to focus on conditioning work and strength work separately. Athletes must "train" to develop these fitness attributes more in the off-season and then "practice" their sport (football, baseball, etc.) more leading up to and during the contest season. But you still have people who have nothing to show for all the "functional" work they do, claiming that mixing movements in and of itself has hidden training benefits.

[@Cenot4ph]

"Balance and coordination are not inherently functional. Neither is squatting or pressing if you are not competing in strengthlifting or powerlifting. " Many sports benefit from these exercises, dont just look at what you're actually doing in those exercises, but what the results are of that exercise. That's the whole point RIP also made. You seem to have missed it

[@curlean-x4443]

@@Cenot4ph What are the results of balancing and coordination if the movements you are using to develop them are not specific to your sport? Unlike speed, endurance, power, and strength, balance and coordinations are far more of "skills" than attributes and are largely a waste of time to develop unless the movements used to do so are highly specific to a sport.

[@1966johnnywayne]

Functional Training: I like doing one arm dumbbell curls, right before I go cruising by the local high school with my pumped arm hanging out the window...alright, alright, alright.

[@tylerscott2116]

Barbell Complexes are functional tho. Everything that works with barbell lifts for strength development to benefit GPP is going on but its muscular endurance, anaerobic endurance, and aerobic endurance (metabolic conditioning) focused more than Strength focused. There's General training and sports specific training. But to say Strength training is the only general training that one should do is WILLDD. When you are working all day being a lumberjack lifting over and over daily and youre not used to it. I bet what you feel like is more akin to complexes than pure strength barbell training. I believe most functional training is bull but the fundamental old school stuff, barbell/Dumbbell/kettlebell complexes thats undeniable. Obviously functional.

[@MeLoNHeAd00]

Taking the boat to tuna town is functional training but it has a purpose .

[@RyDeezy]

A lot of that "stability training" is a misunderstanding of how to maximize stability in your joints and core. Strengthen your core and the muscles supporting your joints, the way Rip says, and you increase your stability.

[@dreamrider2956]

Lemme "Axe" you somphin.. Shouldn't this read, "Non-Strength Functional Training is Worthless"? Would of been awesome to hear RIP say, "Man, this is getting on my Nerbs".

[@connorw360]

What about training the inner core slings? These need to be trained through certain exercises, for people who play sports with a constant change of direction especially

[@patricioansaldi8021]

That's true but if you're an athlete trying to get better at specific movements or protect against certain injuries than it goes beyond strength training and you probably hopefully know what you're doing

[@jessemoe8390]

Rips favorite word is ADAPTATION

[@bludevmike]

The kicker for the New England Patriots has to kick field goals, occasionally on wet or snowy surfaces. That’s an ipsilateral movement on an unstable surface.

[@JH-dr6do]

Thats why he practices kicking

[@RafaelCruzPodcast]

New England Patriots convert the gym to functional training facility. They don't go to Super Bowl.

[@curlean-x4443]

For them it doesn't matter though does it? Freak genetics, work ethic, and PED means anything will work for them.

[@RafaelCruzPodcast]

@@curlean-x4443 So how come they are not in the Superbowl?

[@curlean-x4443]

@@RafaelCruzPodcast Because there can only be two teams in it.

[@RafaelCruzPodcast]

@@curlean-x4443 have the other teams converted their gyms to Functional training facilities?

[@RafaelCruzPodcast]

@Ze TheGame So how come they did not go to the Super Bowl? There are no "Yoga-Style" physics in football, There are no Swimmer-style physic in football, or any other kind of blah blah quasi strong man. If functional fitness proponents are going to make the case that functional fitness is THE key to top performance at the elite level, then proponents got to prove it, not with marketing, but with trophies. Rhetorically or not, the reality is that measurable strength, not intangible boss theatrics make better athletes.

[@PANDA_SPEAKS101]

Need some suggestions .. I am picking Kettlebells..over bar or dumbells. And I am using heavy starting from 12 kilos till 32 kilos. Swings, cleans, snatches and presses. I don't have great technique with the bar or have enough space for a rack. Hence I picked kettlebells. I hope its enough for an amature

[@unrequitednuance]

This guy has some questionable opinions on a lot of scientifically validated shit. I definitely don’t know as much as he does, not by a long shot, but his “my way is the only way” approach brings his credibility into question. I’d say if you want to squat, bench, and deadlift correctly, go see Rip. The rest... buyer beware.

[@Brandon-bl8ko]

Hes way too polarizing of an individual.

[@naughtysquirrel]

I agree, although surely an expert when it comes to strength training he makes it all about strength. And also on that case, maximal strength only neglecting the strength continuum. He hugely underestimate, to the point of not even acknowledging any other component of fitness.

[@lexpavlinov9655]

The only thing that confuses me is that he doesnt look healthy

[@timothytclc7567]

I Captain a small fishing charter boat on heavy seas... therefore I benefit from functional training. Just sayin’ Rip.

[@michaeln0685]

Our primary function is walking and running that's it. Everything else is a by product for function.

[@travismanley4879]

Interesting assessment. As a professional trainer I'd have to say you clearly have never ventured outside the world of the gym. Yes, to improval MAXIMAL strength the 5 "golden exercises"(bench press, bent over row, overhead press, squat and dead lift) are necessary. However, one can improve on each of these by changing the variables. I.E.. single leg dead lifts, single arm dumbell press, etc. Which naturally will even out muscular imbalance, improve mind -muscle connection, increases core activation, strengthens tendons and ligaments thus improving joint health, etc. No, these movements cannot be done with near as much weight, however they will improve your MAXIMAL lifts which as mentioned, are used to increase potential force generation and output. If you want a better idea about functional training, attend a JiuJitsu session and roll with a higher rank... I promise the force exertion in their grip, core, and back will be more than satisfying. Don't dismiss an entire training style because of your limited personal perspective and lack of education about the human 'organism'.

[@startingstrength]

No. This is all wrong. Every word of it. You are the problem.

[@travismanley4879]

@@startingstrength Wow. Such an intellectual response. Clearly you're a man of proper education and scholarly understanding. Hahahaha.

[@valentine_puppy]

When i define functional training here is what i mean. I worked a job where i needed to be able to lift bags of heavy large tents into the back of 6.1 ft high off the ground trucks. I needed to stabilize and quickly move without damaging long heavy pieces of metal frame for tents. I needed to lift and quickly move ground stakes made of steel. I needed to lift up and use a jackhammer to hammer them into the ground or use a sledge hammer to hammer them into the ground for tents. I needed to use a tool to pull up and remove those stakes or loosen them and remove them by hand. I needed to be able to stabilize a large tent from falling down by holding the corner up sometimes over my head. Using my whole body. I have to use very large metal poles like phone polls to stop a huge tent from falling down damaging the tent material when we need to use it again. I needed to be able to pickup and move quickly with stability 15 ft tables and 9 to 10 foot round tables, I needed to be able to use hand trucks or sometimes called Dollies to move 24 to 30 metal and plastic chairs over and over and over off a truck or on to a truck. To be able to move heavy metal plate platforms that connect together to form a small or large platform. Then we are now talking about endurance? How about working that way for 10 hours a day or more and trying to get proper sleep. Lifting awkwardly weighted boxes over my head on to a shelf? When i talk functional Training, that is what i mean. Heavy, Awkward, long duration, repetitive lasting effects performance. You wanted me to define that? THAT's WHAT I MEAN! Now go on tell me that regular weight lifting or bench presses lying down or sitting down and pulling down weight or even barbell dead lifts to the knees does ANYTHING to help with the awkward and often dangerous work that requires functional training as i defined it. YOU TELL ME! You can't.

[@JackgarPrime]

My man, you're getting way too worked up here. Besides, it sounds like barbell lifts would translate just fine to your line of work. Deadlifts get you better at picking heavy objects up off the ground, while also strengthening your back to make it easier to carry things. Pressing makes your better at taking a weight and putting it over your head to get it on to those beds and shelves. Squats have a balance element to them while your body is under load, making you more stable. Oh, and power cleans are also really good for getting the weight from the ground up to shoulder level. Not to mention that having stronger muscles in general is highly beneficial to any occupation that involves lifting and carrying things, and the compound lifts hit just about every muscle group in the body when you put them all together.

[@justinfilipovic8939]

wouldn't simply doing what you do make you better at what you do? I cant think of anything else that would make you more efficient at doing that then doing it basically

[@eclipsez0r]

🍻

[@shamrock32]

Don't forget kettle bells

[@johnacoundouridesmrc9324]

By “press” do you mean like an overhead press such as a military press?

[@MatthewWetherbee]

I think he said press so it could include both bench press and overhead press.

[@SentMyOwnWay]

Iso-lateral movements help correct muscle imbalances.

[@brianbrackins9697]

Functional training seems very unfunctional me. Why do weird movements that you don't normally do. Lift heavy weights as much as possible. Thanks Rip for keeping it simple. Functional training is not going to sustain you into old age lifting heavy will.

[@pineapplepizza4016]

But how often do you lift heavy things outside of the gym? Unless it's required by your job, then probably very little if at all. Strength training is part of the equation, but it's not the whole formula.

[@curlean-x4443]

@@pineapplepizza4016 Increased strength and lean body mass (ideally when fat mass is of reasonably healthy levels and cardiovascular fitness is constant among compared populations) are correlated with reduced mortality risk. And as we age, we will lose muscle function, and the best way to combat that is to get stronger and more jacked (while not ignoring conditioning of course).

[@loyalninecoffee2024]

So how do you prepare for real life? How to prepare to move quickly? Change direction quickly? Change level of plain quickly? From my limited exposure to your channel you quickly dismiss "functional" training in light of "getting stronger". In that case I would argue you miss the point of functional training. I also agree that a lot of what I see has "functional training" is a bit ridiculous, but being able to deadlift 400 lbs doesn't allow me to maneuver a sustained combat scenario. I think you should expand your explanation to things beyond just "getting stronger". I've been looking for a program that simply makes me the most prepared for real world survival situations. Let me know if you have any suggestions.

[@tylerscott2116]

I really think Barbell Complexes are a legitimately functional exercise methodology that isnt strength training definitionally. Meets your own criteria for what functional training should be, but transcends your specific strength training only to meet that criteria conclusions

[@james_games9684]

but rip, its functional, dont you want to be able to function? 😏😏

[@Matt34677]

Would the tricep rope pressdown be considered a functional exercise? That's just one that comes to mind. I've gotten a stronger press and bench from Rope and straightbar pressdowns.

[@dheebb3537]

No it's an assistance exercise to bring the lagging muscle up to improve your Bench. It's the way you think about it

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

You have increased your bench because you have gotten better at benching. I have never known anyone who says that tricep press downs, increased their bench.

[@Matt34677]

​@@72Dexter72Manley72 I'm 29 and have been working out since 15 and eventually I hit a plateau in the press and bench until I added exercises that specifically targeted those assistor muscles such as the Tricep movements I mentioned. I also did skullcrushers and weighted tricep dips as well and my presses went up a lot. Triceps help a lot in the shoulder and bench press so how can one say they are useless to exercise alone? This is also coming from a background as a personal trainer. I also think the swiss ball workouts are silly (admittedly there was a period where I used swiss ball DB bench in my routines) but I don't agree with labeling nearly all non compound movements as useless. I realize Mark is coming from a perspective of increasing strength and the best exercises are the big 3 (Squat, Deadlift, Shoulder Press) so I understand if bodybuilding isn't the goal in general why some would leave out the db/cable curls, pullovers, flyes, etc. Just seems even if strength is the goal there are functional exercises to excel your Squats, Deads, and Presses.

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

@@Matt34677 I am 54 years old and have been in gyms since I was 16 years old. Been personal training people doing full body exercises for the 25 years. The compound movement you did, Dips helped your bench. Overhead pressing does also. Now I'm not saying not to do Press downs. I'm saying the Benching you did plus now finding out you are doing Overhead pressing also. Those 2 work together. The compound lift you did, Dips. Then the skull crushers increased that tricep strength. The Dips and Skull crushers work the large head of the Triceps. 💪🏾 I always say to people who ask how do I get my arms to grow. Work the large head of the Triceps and your arms will grow big time. 👍🏽

[@bbrockRailFan]

Mr Riptoe is a very very good strength coach his goal is to teach someone to perform many power or traditional weight training movements to a very skilled level of performance. He is a strength performance coach. Another goal of Mark's is to increase the bodies efficiency at lifting a weight and increasing the amount of weight lifted. My hat is off to him. As far as off season bodybuilding is concerned, he is not interested in this topic. Although steadily lifting a said weight will cause muscle hypertrophy, this is not one of his concerns but more of a side benefit. To gain muscle mass one must steadily gain strength but also one must either maintain or increase the number of repetitions performed, Performing higher repetitions but increasing the weight is the goal of hypertrophy this is not the main focus of Marks training. People need to understand this. You cannot compare his focus to a bodybuilders focus its ridiculous.

[@wangwei163]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@michaelwoehrl1746]

Well, its better than sitting on the couch.

[@tylerscott2116]

If a athlete does a 6 exercise barbell complex (sumo deadlift, bent row, sumo deadlift highpull, front squat, overhead press, push press) starting with just the barbell for 5 rounds of 5 reps each with 2 minutes rest in between and they gradually progress to daily training, then gradually add weight until they are eventually performing the complex everyday with a 225 barbell, that would be some good old school functional training and that athlete will be sssttronggg.

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

In my book a barbell complex is not functional training. I use them with clients to help them in weight loss, muscle building, and conditioning. Now trying to do them on a ball or balance board or one legged is. But as you said, if you increase the weight or rounds you are getting stronger.

[@tylerscott2116]

@@72Dexter72Manley72 What I mean is functional training isnt just the most stupid strawman conception of functional training, balancing on stuff. There is a fundamental element to it that works. Barbell, Dumbbell, and Kettlebell Complexes

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

@@tylerscott2116 I am agreeing with you as long as no ball balancing or board balancing is used. 👍🏽

[@itschaos007]

The way I do functional training is by picking up sandbags and carrying them...and not this hocus pocus bs

[@redsoxwinagain2007]

Your exoskeletal and intramuscular condition improves with variable unstable force. It is like running on ice vs walking on ice.

[@signmeupruss]

Have you literally never seen a gymnast perform, say, an iron cross or a vault? Those are functional training. Have you never seen a basketball player shoot a layup? That, too, is functional training. A basketball weighs less than 2 pounds, but without the functional training, there would be no basketball.

[@mnelson10000]

Honestly, I gotta say, the proof is in the pudding. If you compare mature heavy lifters, eg. Rip, and mature "functional" trainers, such as maybe Tony Horton, which one looks like they have a higher quality of life? At sixty-something years old, Horton can walk a slack line whereas Rippetoe looks like he can barely get out of a chair. Same thing with Mark's video blasting yoga recently... who looks like they feel better at a similar age... Rippetoe or DDP?

[@dafunkmonster]

Tony Horton figured out how to cash in on peoples’ desire to feel sore. He’s not in the strength training business.

[@HAL-dm1eh]

The proof IS in the pudding. How many 90 yr olds who couldn't get out of a chair has Tony Horton helped? How many has he helped defeat diabetes? Just answer those two for me for starters.

[@evanseguin5449]

Rip has been in several nasty motorcycle accidents and I’m pretty sure he might have been thrown from a horse once or twice if memory serves. You can’t really compare these people.

[@HAL-dm1eh]

@Democrats are cunts So where are the results?

[@ChristianMendieta]

Rippetoe would tell you to go do some heavy squats and deadlifts to fix your broken femur. To him it's the only answer ever. Blindly following everything anyone says gets you in trouble. Even if they're right often they will have their very wrong moments. Lately he just shits on anything that is not the three lifts and he's starting to really push it. In the last week it's been fuck you trap bar deadlifts fuck you yoga fuck you ipsilateral movements. Soon he'll be 400 lbs saying fuck you walking.

[@bradkauf300]

The Voice of reason...good words, Rip.

[@PurplemonkeyHS]

Not falling down during a squat counts as mastering balance ?!? 🤔

[@dheebb3537]

As the weight gets heavier each week/month, yes. You couldn't do it before, now you can.....

[@andrew-zr1pf]

As a skateboarder I had a good laugh at that. I don't think he has any idea what balance is. Unless he can upload a video of him skating a 10 foot bowl and prove me wrong. Squats are just strength and a little bit of balance compared to skateboarding. Lol.

[@PurplemonkeyHS]

@@andrew-zr1pf I don't think he has any idea what a lot of things are in reality. Seems to have created his own world to live in :/

[@thelongslowgoodbye]

Functional training is like inner beauty, it can mean anything therefore it means nothing.

[@randygentry2442]

Yeah your right....pushing something heavy off your sternum and holding it over your face...functionally is useless

[@borysZ]

He means press not bench press

[@randygentry2442]

Borys Zasada still invalid by definition...sarcasm

[@borysZ]

@@randygentry2442 I dont get ur point then

[@randygentry2442]

Borys Zasada Nothing is Functional...unless it has use....so all this by definition is useless...without a actual purpose that is unscripted ...a movement that accomplishes a unscripted task when it matters is Fuctional

[@borysZ]

@@randygentry2442 ok I getcha the ... at the end of sentences threw off the tone and meaning of it for me my b

[@Mister19Eleven]

Ironically I always viewed traditional big compound multi-joint lifts in a balanced total body progressive program as “functional” training. It seemed like this was the case vs the isolation “several sets to failure for every little body part” mindset until this overly complicated “functional” movement of obscure exercises became the popular trend.

[@santiagocasillo8139]

mark rippete = oliver reed

[@PassportG]

Lol functional.

[@JoshBenware]

People who do "functional exercises" need to get a job...that'll solve that problem, and they'll get paid for it.

[@JoshBenware]

@Buysome Bitcoin exactly. Us guys that do that kind of work go to the gym for overall strength, that way "functional strength" in our daily work tasks arent as hard to perform.

[@sman53]

Functional movement is sports specific so it is important for injury prevention and rehab

[@theulysses7236]

And squatting on a bosu ball is specific to which sport exactly?

[@ollyosborne3097]

Functional training is so broad, you’re talking about such a small part, focused on supporting muscle groups or isolating the body to increase mobility, flexibility and support multi joint, compound movements. It’s very different for what you’re trying to compare, that type of functional training is a supplement to strength training.

[@pradgarimella]

lebron james is functioning training

[@ladev91]

Functional training is better than no training. At least they are working out and keeping themselves in shape. Just because it's not the conventional squat, benchpress, and deadlift doesnt mean the exercises don't benefit a person.

[@Cenot4ph]

the point RIP made went way over your head.

[@jesperpetersen636]

Functional training gives you advantages in Real life. Not just in the gym. This is a meanigless discussion because Weight lifting for example is hole other thing.

[@aescorpus]

Bodyweight training is funcional training. Gymnastics is functional training. Build a base of strength on your own body before moving to barbell movements.

[@donluchitti]

You dont know anyone who could benefit from isolateral stabalization, Well then you don’t know dancers.

[@marcussmithwick6326]

Yeah I doubt rips good friends with alot of dancers

[@caramelshorty4154]

then they y should practice.. dancing?

[@ShoneDaddy]

Kermit The Wog lmfao

[@donluchitti]

Caramel Shorty sure as is true with all sport but also, there’s benefit for exercises that put the practitioner in an unstable position. Dancers literally have moves that require isolation unlike a lot of sport. Remember dancing is not just about function but simply visual aesthetic of the contortion or movement of the human body irrespective of the efficiency. I’m pretty sure I’m right about this . Could be wrong

[@RRYYAANNK7]

Humans are made to walk, run and throw. Traditional weight lifting alters those biomechanics drastically in a bad way. Not debatable. Watch any serious weight lifter attempt to sprint. Rips view of “functional training” is very crude. Functional patterns is the standard. People don’t get hurt doing it. How many people get hurt weight lifting? How many guys stop in their 30 and 40s due to injury? No training system is without its negative repercussions/lack of positive results (I.e. aesthetics, endurance, likelihood of injury, joint degeneration, size) but some systems are better than others. Hardcore weight lifting caters to the egotistical and insecure primarily. Results don’t lie.

[@Cenot4ph]

exactly, results don't lie which is the point RIP made. Functional training is bad at muscle building, what's hard to understand here.

[@Michael-4]

Got a great marketing shtick going there Rip. 👍

[@bryanwakefield5123]

Face reality - shave that head.

[@AntiTrollable]

Functional training has its purpose, hence the word functional. It does not involve stupid movements like you said but natural planes of motion outside your anterior movements. It has nothing to do with "strength" but working on fixator and stabilizing muscles in all planes. Your analysis is very bias to your preferred exercise and preferred outcomes.

[@dafunkmonster]

What’s the fastest way to strengthen your stabilizing muscles? Heavy compound lifts.

[@andrew-zr1pf]

Elite surfers use unstable surfaces for training. But rip probaby knows better than them and surf's better than them.

[@Hhhlll7778]

andrew Horrible argument that misses totally the point

[@andrew-zr1pf]

@@Hhhlll7778 ... Of course it does. Power lifters know everything. Oops My bad. Forgot. Hahaha.

[@ShoneDaddy]

andrew I’m guessing you’re between 13-16 years old.

[@andrew-zr1pf]

@@ShoneDaddy ... That would still mean I'm older than you.

[@Cenot4ph]

completely missed the point that RIP made, listen to it again

[@The10532124]

Lol just stick to your own lane mark. You're a power lifter not a sport performance coach. As a striker I love the barbell but that isn't the best exercise equipment or method to help me at my sport. The useless kettlebell is actually better for me. I would love to see Mark coach a world class athlete with just his power lifting methods alone

[@ballzdeep6938]

The problem is your focusing to much on strength. When your legs get big from heavy squats it really hurts your endurance.

[@BioBroly111]

Strength is mostly neurological adaptation, if you dont eat in a caloric surplus you wont gain weight. There are plenty smaller poverlifters, not everyone is 250lb monster. Also endurance is sport specific. Sprinter, wrestler, swimmer and marathon runner all require different levels of endurance.

[@dafunkmonster]

“When your legs get big from heavy squats it really hurts your endurance.” Lol what?

[@s.vernon5118]

Well ok, go talk a high level professional athlete and see if they agree. Tim Bradley was stronger in weight room than a lot of boxers. Think functional strength adds balance and coordination . It makes for a better athlete

[@BioBroly111]

No it doesnt. Practising skill(sport) makes better athlete. "Functional" training is not practise (of skill) or training (strength/endurance) and thats why its a waste of time.

[@s.vernon5118]

@@BioBroly111 Yes. It does according to trainers of professional teams in modern history . In functional training you will see people doing resistance while being unbalanced because in sports, that's a realistic situation. Sorry the notion functional strength is useless is just hilarious.

[@BioBroly111]

@@s.vernon5118 I understand what you are trying to say, but that is not strength training that is developing skill. Balance is skill. Strength is generating force against external object. Edit: as one man once said: functional training can mean anything, so it means nothing.

[@s.vernon5118]

@@BioBroly111 No. A skill is catching the football. Being able to gain additional yardage after catching the football while someone is hanging on one side of your body is functional strength..

[@BioBroly111]

@@s.vernon5118 Your not addressing my points, your just moving the goals. Strength is strength, through practise of skill you make it sport specific aka functional. Your example gives you answer: do you think that stronger person will make it further than weaker person given the same amount of skill practise? Squats and deadlift wont help you here?