Frank Zane Talks Steroids, Supplements, and Nutrition

Frank Zane is famously known as "the Chemist" for a reason.
In this interview highlight, he discusses steroids, how to maximize lean muscle mass growth, the realities behind supplements, and nutrition tips.
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[@wataboutya9310]

His physique at the 77 Olympia is for me, the essence of bodybuilding. Yes, there are Yates, Coleman and Cutler but they all looked big and awkward. Frank was like a panther. Sleek, strong, muscular and athletic.

[@ericnelson9100]

Not to take anything away from Mr. Zane, but George Eiferman had the best physique when it came to symetry. Everything was equally proportional; chest, shoulders, back, arms, glutes, legs.

[@samuelclemons508]

@@ericnelson9100 What ???

[@lobby-3alliance196]

@@ericnelson9100 ... And the nod also goes to Steve Reeves !!

[@cluggyahoo]

like Stallone in Rambo 2 and 3

[@samuelclemons508]

@@cluggyahoo what?

[@salvenice09]

What a classic physique. Ripped with perfect symmetry.

[@user-my2se7sn3s]

Greatest physique ever I think after the 70s the bulk physique isn't asthetic

[@0johnirving162]

Im 62 yrs old and Frank was always an inspiration in my body building. In fact i had one of his poster which i posted in my room for a long time...what a great physique he had then....greetings from the Philippines.

[@jessfrankel5212]

I always admired Zane's physique as being more aesthetic and more attainable. He trained hard and smart, never pushing the envelope in trying to use massive weights like some of his contemporaries did. Having said that, he's being disingenuous when he talks about his steroid use. He used, and if he hadn't, doubtful he'd have attained his finished look. Back then, the best guys took at least one kind of steroid but not nearly in the amounts that the guys are taking today, not to mention the modern-day dudes using insulin, Hgh, SARMS, and lord knows what else. They were a little more health-conscious forty-something years ago. Some of the people commenting ask why Zane doesn't talk more about what exogenous substances he used. Easy. If he said, "I used Primobolan, Dianabol, and a shot of testosterone cypionate once a week" then it would diminish his achievements in the eyes of many, as if all the hard training and careful dieting meant nothing and taking a few pills and shots meant everything. Well...there is some truth in that. However, Zane, like Arnold, Franco, Lou, Sergio, and all the other greats of the '60's, '70's, and early '80's, trained brutally hard and relied more on hard work PLUS fairly minimal drug usage. JMO.

[@chadoliver2966]

100 percent agree with your statement here. Zane clearly used anabolic steroids. However like you said back in the Golden Era guys did very low dosages compared to the crazy amounts the pros use today. Hence the reason he never got over 200lbs on stage. If he took huge amounts he would of been Arnold and Sergio size. Instead he focused on symmetry and being ripped on stage and had the best classic physique of all time.

[@dariuswilliams7509]

Primo Dbol Deca Speed the golden era stack of the champs

[@Juggaliath]

Anyone who diminishes these athletes for their steroid use are not even into the sport to begin with. We know they use, they know they use. No point in talking about what everyone knows and accepts as truth. It's kicking a dead horse talking about steroid use.

[@blackjack-ks8zn]

Lol zane was known to use variety of drugs a hole, "minimal" they would use piles and piles of drugs

[@blackjack-ks8zn]

@@Juggaliath well golden era guys used them lol, a joke you are

[@duanefrench3500]

I watched this interview and followed Frank, when he talked about personal growth and eliminating negative people that bring you down. Interesting interview.

[@steely10]

I listened to the entire hour-long interview. Very interesting nuggets about longevity and staying in shape in bodybuilding. One of them was about always doing sets to failure, maxing out can be a sign of a bodybuilder trait that leads to a shorter lifespan. Think about the pump only, not heavy weights. Good stuff.

[@roadking0073]

Even Zane won't admit using PEDs. Enough already! He totally started fidgeting as soon as he was asked. I remember when Chet Yorton was denying their use and Larry Scott said something like, "Come on Chet, we're all on them and you know it". Chet almost shit kittens and said it wasn't true. At least Larry never lied. They weren't even illegal back then. Geez Frank, it's not like you have a Weider contract to protect. By the way, I had a number of issues with my prostate until I took a OTC testosterone booster on a regular basis. Problem solved. I cant believe the fairy tales and wide-eyed innocent narrative he's spouting.

[@daniloi.7997]

Yeah and you can tell when he stopped using them at around 65 and his phisique went from amazing to an average decently healthy old man.

[@robd1859]

These athletes are so goddamn stupid they act like we're all dumb and we don't have any common sense. You can't walk around looking like a cartoon character with 2% body fat and your arms bigger than your legs if you're not taking something. All of us have taken anabolic androgenic steroids. I have taken everything known to man except growth hormone and that's because I can't afford it. But I've taken pretty much every steroid made. And I'm not stupid. But it makes me mad when people will lie and say they've never taken anything piri I would have cut off the interview right there and said you're a fucking liar.

[@jomon723]

Yes, just don't want to touch it

[@przemyslaw1235]

Like like most of them😅magic training and diet😇😇😇

[@KrisKazmierski]

Yep no PED’s just hundreds of amino acid capsules wink. Supplement sponsorships were on the line so they ALL lied about steroid use.

[@_Sam62]

There has never been a bodybuilder with a better aesthetic body than Frank Zane.

[@simonodell2103]

Bob paris

[@richardmilliken8705]

@@simonodell2103 Paris lacked the conditioning that Zane brought to the stage.

[@murica1898]

Arnold

[@alex_rfgfitness]

Bob Paris imo had the best structure of all time.. might not have had the "onion skin" conditioning to take him to the next level, but I think he was peak aesthetics.

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Bob Paris and Lee Priest were actually both more asthetic than Zane.

[@flapjack9036]

Love ya Zane but please for crying out loud just be transparent about steroid use, don't give these kids false hopes in achieving a physique like that naturally when we all know you were using and that's totally okay no one gonna diminish your hard work, just be honest!

[@terenceflanagan1225]

Idk that they can be for legal reasons

[@MrDarrelln64]

I have watched almost all of Frank Zane's interviews and this is the best of them all. This interview ask the right questions.

[@wendybeau6356]

No he missed what was in the 70 or 80 Capsules...

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

What the heck, he was eating 1,900 calories in the off season?? That's kind of insane.

[@erickz6828]

*Inzane

[@mcgragor1]

I find that one almost impossible to believe-I weigh 150 lbs at 5'8" and never got that big even when I was lifting heavy, but even now, just walking daily and some light lifting, I burn over 2000 calories a day. I was losing weight at under 2000. 10 years ago in my low 40's I got in the best shape of my life and I got pretty ripped, and even then I recall I was consuming 2400 calories a day.

[@Zakksback17]

Don't believe anything these guys say. They always deny using PDEs, they always eat either 10k calories or 1500 of brocolli and chicken. Always the same thing.

[@sml9805]

9:48 I never could understand why people still deny using PEDS. Frank is almost 80 years old. You would think he and other golden era bodybuilders would just say what they took. 1996 FLEX magazine he wrote an article "A Zane look at Drugs" where he outlines what pros took in his day ."Of course in my heyday, standards were different. All that professionals deemed necessary to prepare for a competition was a 12 week cycle or less of 15mg of dianabol a day and 100mg of deca-durabolin or possibly primobolan depot every 7-10 days."

[@weximan1]

On one of ric dresins shows he spoke about Zane and that they used to call him the chemist, lol ,and from this interview he says you can get almost the same effect from supplements as peds

[@bokohara620]

@Eric Murrill whats "rad"?

[@bokohara620]

@Eric Murrill why not just use classic testosterone?

[@namelessfacelessyoutuber6017]

@@bokohara620 Rad 140 is more powerful than testosterone when it comes to building strength and muscle !

[@namelessfacelessyoutuber6017]

They were taking more than 15 mg dbol ! Average bodybuilders were chugging dbols like tictacs back then because they were so easy to get and if average bodybuilders were taking that much imagine what the top pros were taking !

[@rediff9819]

This is awesome 👍. A verbal account of a bodybuilder's diet and training, not by a fitness coach or a dietitian but by the champion himself. 👍

[@karimbelhadj3871]

Great video about food intake, calories management and supplements ( if you leave the denials about not taking Steroids aside 😂).

[@arame29]

Being off in 75 and excluded from the pumping iron film worked in Frank's favor. People forgot about him When I saw the pics in Muscle Builder mag of the 76 Mr. O, , my jaw dropped. He was chiseled granite, one of the greatest transformations ever.

[@kn-qz7by]

Are you saying that Zane wasn't competing that year and that's why he wasn't in the film?

[@arame29]

@@kn-qz7by he did compete but I guess his low rank precluded him and he didn't make the final cut

[@kn-qz7by]

@@arame29 Ok. I see that he regrets not having made himself available for the filming of “Pumping Iron” and also wasn’t at his best for that competition, having injured his back prior to it. He went on to win three consecutive Mr. Olympias a few years later.

[@arame29]

@@kn-qz7by I love Frank Zane. I would've given him '76 & '82 Maybe have given Robbie '78

[@kn-qz7by]

@@arame29 Yes, he’s definitely always been a class act.

[@johnwight1]

His 1977 Olympia physique remains the gold standard.

[@gerhardschelbi2302]

1979

[@alk3myst]

Frank Zane was always my definition of the perfect physique. If he was a taller guy, and carried the same physique; I am sure he'd have won way more shows. Plus he has always been a stand-up act. No ego.

[@granddaddyofthemall6320]

That's a silly comment tall doesn't make a better bodybuilder there's nothing inherently good about tall. Phil Heath is a little shorter than him and won seven times so that blows your theory. Actually it's a disadvantage to be tall in bodybuilding there's a reason there's only been one mr. Olympia champ 6ft and up.

[@darthghitza8037]

@@granddaddyofthemall6320 what he meant is… if he were Arnold’s height, but had an identical physique scaled up. He would automatically he larger, but keep the same proportions. He could have gave Arnold a run for his money.

[@granddaddyofthemall6320]

@@darthghitza8037 "Scaled up" is not how bodybuilding is judged. There's nothing better about being taller.

[@H1JaX]

He got awfully fidgety when the exogenus hormonal aid was mentioned. He'd be much more respected if he spoke about his frequent use of anabolics as much as his "600 Amino acid capsules". Respect for what hes achieved, but none for how he approached that question.

[@arame29]

I noticed that, also

[@waldek32]

Really good point regarding amino acids. So many today say amino acids not working.

[@duanefrench3500]

I like listening to Frank's interviews. He has great thinking about success. Anyone can benefit from.

[@suntzuwarsword1964]

Thank you frank...your more than a bodybuilder..your a philosopher..life physician.. spiritually.. mentally.. simply the best..im ex ifbb...nabba there has to be balance and this man has it..great interview.. i agree totally frank..testosterone in essence is a carcinogen.. i used anabolics..ect for bodybuilding..im 58 now i avoid test..it just aggravates the prostate... i nurse my endocrine system with non hormonal suppliments..vitiman E works well for that...thank you frank

[@willbutler6261]

Said he didn't take steroids bahahaha. Who does he think he's kidding? It literally takes away nothing from how awesome he was. Why does he feel like he can't admit it? In this day and age we all know that they all use roids. It's no secret anymore so there's no reason to lie anymore. Love ya frank, you will always be a hero of mine in the bodybuilding world. That will never change no matter what you admit to taking.

[@lobby-3alliance196]

I am with you Will Butler, Frank Zane was my idol, I had the wall poster, and the very first Zane t shirt, nevertheless, with my ectomorph body, I was only able to reach my peak, 189 naturally, ( aside of the protein drinks and amino acids also ) now at 62 years old I have lost 30 lbs, but still work out and strong for my age, so Zane is been disingenuous when he minimizes steroid usage, you cannot get that very refined conditioning without the anabolics, especially as you get older as a male.

[@bigdeal6852]

Frank Zane My all time favorite. Next to John Grimeck and Bill Pearl. And you can throw in Steve Reeves also.

[@jasonjaeger4860]

Frank has always been my favorite Olympian. Very honest, no bullshit. He did it the right way. I wish Mr. Olympia would go back to that format, judging on the body not size. Just a pipe dream I realize but a dream never the less. Very good interview. I enjoyed it. Thank you!

[@Wrathsack]

The right way with the perfect amount of steroids come on man the denial and dik riding is hilarious.

[@nignog1737]

that’s kinda like that the heavier men’s physique we have today

[@abelortiz8093]

Zane physique was like a Greek sculture. A masterpice

[@BigIrvB]

FZ is the best bodybuilder ever. He was not only way ahead of the pack when it came to training the body…he knew/knows the importance of training one’s mind to become the best version of themselves.

[@lonerangersheriff]

Great article here! God Bless you Frank.

[@chrisweidner4768]

The cleaner you eat the better you’ll feel and train. 64 here and finally realizing that’s the key. Natural and content.

[@JESUSisALIVE-ourGOD]

At first 2 minutes in this video I am like oh no… I did complete opposite… and now is taking way too long to get back 😰 Great advices by Frank Zane … thanks God bless you and your family

[@covingtonhalltown3730]

If you listen carefully, he still gives safe and 'public' answers. He really didn't reveal any secrets. All that he shared was in conjuction with some powerful, pharmaceutical grade stuff.

[@aryanbashyry6852]

What were you expecting?

[@covingtonhalltown3730]

@@aryanbashyry6852 Are you attempting to direct the conversation around your emotional instability. Please explain where you thought expectation was required.

[@davidhenderson7433]

Exactly, safe answers. Thing is he wasn't big by any means, condition was key to this physique, I dare say a small amount of basic steroids back in the day to keep some lean tissue in prep, Go watch another video on here called "Frank Zane shows vacuum rare footage " then peeps will see. Many nowadays preach natural and are many times larger than the then world champ, we ain't evolved that much over as short space of time. Great body when lean in comp but otherwise not impressive, and he even took a small amount in prep. Sorry but it's true.

[@covingtonhalltown3730]

@@davidhenderson7433 there will come a time when Noone will know what a vacuum is. Arnold said it best when bb is when a sculpture can be made to resemble Greek gods. Not anymore, can make dozens of sculptured hulks, but not Greek gods.

[@davidhenderson7433]

@@covingtonhalltown3730 i duno many people hold in their bellies nowadays cos they are fat lol

[@carlranger8060]

I like Frank. As far as I'm concerned he was/is the greatest BB of all time. But is it really healthy to be so obsessed with food combination and trying to get a double peak on your bicep. The older I've got (62 now), the more interested I am in a holistic approach to health, ie calisthenics, cycling, swimming. But the foundations of my health was built with lifting and for that I am incredibly grateful.

[@kentborges5114]

LOOK FOLKS, THEY ALL TOOK ROIDS IN THE 70'S....JUST NOT THE MASSIVE AMOUNTS AS TODAY. ZANE IS A MASTER AND STILL RULES.

[@alexrileyfoxhound5453]

So why did he completely gloss over that fact. He remembers 45 years later what he ate and how many supplements he took, but he is afraid to give details about his stacks? Golden era bodybuilder still pushing the lie. He did not want to rely on them, seriously? Without them he would have looked no better than the guy asking him questions.

[@kentborges5114]

@@alexrileyfoxhound5453 YES, THEE UGLY TRUTH IS DAMAGING TO THE EGO AND BUSINESS.

[@alexrileyfoxhound5453]

Does he really believe steroids were not 90%(conservatively) of the muscle he had?

[@kentborges5114]

@@alexrileyfoxhound5453 I WOULD SAY THE ROIDS WERE CRUCIAL...90% IS PUSHIN' IT.

[@alexrileyfoxhound5453]

@@kentborges5114 90 is just about right. See some of Arnold's pictures between his 70s Mr O wins when he was off? Barely looked like he worked out. Every see pics of Levrone and Dillett when they went off? Barely had any muscle.Its the most perpetrated lie of Bodybuilding when they minimize their effects. No steroids, no body building.

[@carbonc6065]

Thanks for this ... Much appreciation.

[@matthewj9832]

Bcaas definitely have calories you don’t get something for free it’s just not required on the label unless it’s in complete form

[@yoshit9819]

Dianabol was the drug of choice back then. Along with deca and test. Winstrol tabs were also popular. I'm probably frank zanes biggest fan but he's full of crap on the steroid issue

[@dariuswilliams7509]

Don't forget the speed 👀😂😂

[@TheFirstGroover]

The Key is consistency and sustainability

[@mikemiller3936]

Noticed how Frank answered the questions at the end of the interview in reference to the supplements he took he doesn’t tell you what he took when he was at his best he answers with what he’s taking now I don’t know what the big deal is we know he took steroids why don’t you do the world a favor by sharing with us exactly what he took and how much she took

[@przemyslaw1235]

Because he is liar like most bodybuilder.Magic diet,training.Great genetic and steroids .He had amazing genetic train like all bodybuilders and take good steroids.

[@fortnite.burger]

@@przemyslaw1235 cringe

[@koan__23]

Maybe he doesn't want to openly promote PED use to avoid any accusations

[@ZaBuZaMoMoChi86]

He was 40 years ahead on the "not get fat" part, it's key, especially for naturals,maingain it's safer, healthier and overall gives you a better look year round without having to cut heavily losing all the dirty size you put on.

[@seascs]

you will also feel better, more energetic and overall better mental health

[@dantean]

Nice interview--thanks. On a separate note, is "Escape Fitness" intended as irony, sarcasm, or an in-joke?! Like "Dodge Health" or "Avoid Bodybuilding"?! It's a curious name to be sure.

[@petermurphy9968]

The effect of taking steroids in bodybuilding is the reduction in testosterone that the body makes naturally. Once bodybuilders go off synthetic testosterone, their bodies struggle to make natural testosterone afterwards. Natural bodybuilding is the gold standard, because the natural body builder has that physique for life without dependency, he/she only needs to keep up their training. Natural bodybuilders age well without the risks. Frank Zane used synthetic testosterone conservatively and I think that is why his physique was more aesthetic and athletic compared to the bulky awkward monsters we see today.

[@lobby-3alliance196]

You nailed it. I concur with this very informed and realistic statement !!

[@lwwells]

I have all of Frank’s books. In fact, I ordered them through him so that you could have them signed. I tried to eat like “this” for about a decade while lifting 5-6 days per week. It ruined my hormones. I doubt Frank is including the caloric values of the oils and aminos he used to take, which would increase his caloric intake by about 30-40%. Don’t blindly follow what people say they did 50 years ago and regularly get blood work with your doctor.

[@yasashii89]

How did it ruin your hormones?

[@lwwells]

@@yasashii89 I had test levels of 200 mMol/dL by the age of 24 and I didn't make any changes. My test levels didn't recover after a couple years of that.

[@yasashii89]

@@lwwells I didn't know that diet could do that to someone. Or does working out 6 days a week do it?

[@lwwells]

@@yasashii89 It's more likely the combination of the two. Exercise is 'stress' on the body. Proper nutrition is how your body fixes the damage of stress. What Zane is saying didn't adequately allow my body to repair itself. As a result, my body was under constant stress for many years. Constant stress will disrupt many processes in the body, including hormones. If you plan to exercise for a long time, I recommend finding a nutritionist and not taking the advice of people that had success in the 70s. Their memory and knowledge are incomplete by today's standards. e.g. Frank does not include the caloric values of his amino supplements and oils into his caloric intake. As a result, he is inaccurately stating how many calories he ate. He just doesn't know better. Don't hurt yourself, get a professional.

[@poshgentleman559]

Zane has never outright denied using steroids, he said he did not rely on them. You have to remember: there are a lot of easily influenced gullible people out there. And if zane gave a detailed list of exactly what he took back then......you can almost guarantee, many viewers would have a notepad and pencil out, taking details......and l don,t think frank wants people to go on these drugs, in their quest to emulate him. So the best thing is not to make a big deal about it. If that sounds like being evasive, but it stops guilable younger trainers going on steroids, then thats a good thing.

[@DexterHaven]

10:22 Frank almost got in a fight in the gym with Jerry Brainum, the nutritionist, who came up and asked Frank a quick question between his sets, and Frank said, "Make an appointment." Jerry was livid.

[@Physiquehit]

Beef lever tablet , free form aminos , digestives enzymes , vitamins ... really old school !!

[@craigleibbrand7761]

Right on it's the way to go to get a natural physique. By the way Frank was called "The Chemist". Think what that means- Roids

[@Drplaguescp049]

​@@craigleibbrand7761He was a high school chemistry teacher around that time

[@jorge.r.garciadealba]

Great interview.

[@kn-qz7by]

Back in the 1980s when he was often seen in bodybuilding magazines I always thought Frank Zane -- much like Arnold Schwarzenegger -- was basically a skinny guy who had the genetics to pack on muscle. In his competition days if he wasn't into bodybuilding he, like Schwarzenegger, would have been a naturally slim/skinny guy.

[@QuorumOf1]

He seems like a nice guy. Sadly Zane claims to stay lean year round and have only ate 2000 calories a day mind you this is during his prime. There’s literally no way especially with his size at that time and the amount of training he says he was doing. His would waste away into nothing. His BMR alone would surpass that. During his day steroids weren’t banned so maybe he had no idea. He himself never gave a definite answer on them and left it really vague. It’s too bad because I almost had my faith restored in the older generation now I just they were full of BS

[@doddsalfa]

Maybe it’s you full of bs?

[@Hect0rx]

How many vegetables would you have to eat a day to get 100g of carbs?

[@DudeSilad]

That's an insane amount of amino acids he was taking. No wonder I didn't get very big when I was young! Couldn't have afforded them anyway. He had a wonderful physique back in the day.

[@fortnite.burger]

You can get big without amino acids, but they definitely help

[@JourneyByChris]

Just eat enough protein and you don’t need amino acids.

[@DudeSilad]

@@JourneyByChris in the 80's, amino acids were the big thing. The protein powders in those days were poor in comparison to today. And bloody revolting most of them!

[@michaelgriffiths237]

He took loads of thyroid pills, Its in several books he wrote. Thats how he got so ripped

[@GeorgeousGeorgeousGeorge]

Frank Zane if I could look like any Olympia bodybuilder. Perfect symmetry. Michelangelo would approve

[@LEWiSG]

My main take away is low carb is GOOD

[@MartialBachoffner]

Thank you for the video. I would like to bring a counterargument about what he said 10:50 When you get older, you get less testosterone, therefore, it's not testosterone that gives you prostate cancer. Since you have less testosterone, you cannot get prostate hypertrophy either.

[@kaziflows2936]

He said cancer feeds off of test. When older you are at higher risk of prostate cancer so he doesnt want to take test in old age.

[@erniealamia3870]

You are at a higher risk of cancer when you are older because of the lower test values. Not higher. It's already been proven in studies that higher test levels can help with not getting cancer.

[@gregbrown3082]

@@erniealamia3870 This is correct. There is no factual basis for Frank to say that testosterone feeds off cancer. All he has done is make himself look foolish, to anyone who can read.

[@supersonic249]

@@erniealamia3870 that gives me a reason to jump on TRT for life. Although higher risk of heart disease, can't win.

[@lodersracing]

So no steroids, just fruit and vegatables, right....

[@martinvaracka4837]

Indeed, you just need to eat those fruit and vegetables radiated ;-)

[@lobby-3alliance196]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nickdiperna3958]

What were the “capsules” he was talking about?

[@lukasjaecker5302]

Sehr sympathisch!

[@myname9252]

Dude weighed 200 at contest . Have any of you that think hes natural ever lifted weights for more than a year?

[@keithgreenan3177]

He usually weighed 185 to 190 when he won the Olympia. He was 5ft. 9 1/2 inches

[@brianknittle6642]

WTF? Mr. O did not take dbol and primo? Someone needs to let Mr Zane know that there is this thing called the internet and we all know what he was doing. "Supplements give you a drug like effect", lol.

[@ROLFCOPTERZZ]

Under 2k calories a day!? How. 250 grams of protein at 2k calories is unheard of

[@DexterHaven]

Frank's nickname was "the chemist." That says a lot. He was always experimenting with doses of this and that.

[@TrustNone35]

Yeah funny how people don't remember that part. He had an amazing build and it came from working out and the chem lab.

[@catalyn080]

@@TrustNone35 he doesn't admit to steroids but he was a walking pharmacy . if he worked out prior to steroids where invented i really doubt he would have achieved such physique . for nothing in non existent steroids era looked like him

[@Drplaguescp049]

He was a high school chemistry teacher

[@Quantum3691]

There was a lot of supplement use back in the day compared to today which is rife with all types of enhancers.

[@therationalpiper7428]

I could swear he previously talked about using Dbol leading up to contests. He did compete under 190 lbs at about 5'8 I think. You can get pretty close to that without drugs, so his claim of doing one cycle, perhaps a year, leading up to a big contest makes sense. Think of a middleweight boxer coming in at 160 lbs. somewhere around Zane's height, rock solid with extremely low bodyfat. Those guys walk around at 175 or so before dropping the water weight and they aren't even bodybuilders trying to get big. I don't see any reason for thinking Zane did "big" cycles of test plus steroids like some of the bigger guys including Arnold.

[@mixalis6168]

Hes lying, he juiced !!

[@S___________]

He said what at 2:59 egg cheese?

[@Godislove225]

very interesting to hear that from good sportsman like frank zane 👍

[@EscapeFitness]

Thanks 👍

[@ThePrincessandtheDad]

I love frank Zane such intelligence!!!!

[@doitrightfreestyler]

Thanks a lot

[@digital-thralldom905]

When I see the mass monsters it's like a comic book has become reality. When I see Frank Zane in his prime I think Perfection. Frank was what the Greeks were trying to sculpt thousands of years ago. I think Ronnie Coleman is the greatest ever, but my favorite Bodybuilder is Frank Zane.

[@harolddenton6031]

Ronnie was a freak doing lots of testosterone and other growth hormones to get that size. Go watch his interview with how Rogan. Poor his is a walking science project now wirh all of his back disk fussed together.

[@EllaJay]

@@harolddenton6031 Jeez, did you have a stroke in the middle of typing that? The comment turns into complete jibberish. ☮

[@fortnite.burger]

Thralldom I agree

[@mcgragor1]

Frank was one of the greats, awesome physique, but I question the 2000 calories a day, as that almost seems impossible. If I eat below that even at 150'bs and in my early 50's I lose weight, and I all I do is walk daily and some very light lifting. I use Cronometer app back then they counted-maybe even guessed, but I'm maintaining at 2300-2500 calories a day and I have 30-40 lbs less muscle than he did??

[@paulread7113]

My thoughts exactly. No way was he only consuming 2000 calories

[@bambostarla6259]

Under 2000 calories in the off season for a bodybuilder is impossible. If he said 3000 calories , would probably be true

[@luminozo1610]

@@paulread7113 not hard to only eat 2000 cals a day, keeping a high protein intake. And some carbs here and there. I also stay lean year round and follow the same diet

[@paulread7113]

@@luminozo1610 But I bet you don't have the size of Frank's physique on 2000 calories.

[@luminozo1610]

@@paulread7113 not hard when you're on roids. My phyisque is at it's peak, natural.. My body is similar to his. Roids will make that difference. + the really high

[@bernardwhitehead480]

Best physic ever great interview

[@MrJulianbowden]

Who's the English guy interviewing him ?

[@brianm1152]

Did he actually say he was eating 600 capsules a day?? Of amino acids and vitamins??

[@AscendPerform]

If it was true that testosterone feeds cancer then you'd see men in their prime get cancer, including prostrate cancer like Frank said, and you don't see that. Testosterone declines as we age, estrogen goes up from the testosterone to estrogen ratio becoming worse and also probably for environmental reasons, so I believe the research shows that it's testosterone being low and estrogen being high that probably causes prostrate issues.

[@coherentmedia]

First of all, it's prostate, not prostrate, and it's true that most older men die with prostate cancer, but not necessarily of it. I don't know if they know for sure if testosterone causes prostate cancer, but it may well fuel it once you have prostate cancer. Have your PSA level checked before and during taking a cycle or before and during TRT, and it might be an eye opener to you at the level changes. Affects on the prostate may differ depending on what steroid you use - of course the most commonly available is probably testosterone cypionate or enanthate, both of which are more androgenic than some others. I'm not sure if there are any studies comparing the affects on the prostate of more anabolic steroids to more androgenic steroids, but that would be beneficial to know. This is why women that want to remain feminine take mostly Anavar, because it's more anabolic than androgenic. But for older men, I'm sure if you were to ask, most urologists would recommend against taking any additional testosterone. As you age, you'll see your energy levels and sex drive drop and your physique declining, and you'll have to have the debate in your own mind about the risks/rewards of TRT. It would be good questions to ask the bodybuilders that are over 65 - do you have prostate cancer, have you had your prostate removed, do you have to take something to shrink the prostate so you can pee - things like that. When you're young, you don't really think of these things. Think about the treatments that they have for prostate cancer - cutting your nuts off, testosterone reducers, taking estrogen, etc.. Not a great prospect - losing your nuts and growing tits at the same time.

[@AscendPerform]

@@coherentmedia I know it's prostate, accidental misspelling or an auto-correct I didn't see. I'm sure this has happened to you at least once in your life. This was very interesting on this topic and is a 2 part video. I've read a fair amount on this topic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZm2m6Gwl7eYobs

[@TheBatugan77]

Prostrate cancer... Guffaw...

[@TheBatugan77]

​@@AscendPerform Too late to backpedal now buddy. Consider yourself verbally pantsed.

[@JimmyR83]

Gotta give these older guys credit there was no internet, gurus, nothing!!!! It was all trial and error and talking to other guys at the gym. Shit I started bodybuilding in 1998 and there wasn’t a fraction of the info available that there is now

[@daveyboy_]

yep i got into training in 85 . all those adverts for supplements i was like , 'where can i buy this shit'?

[@JimmyR83]

@@daveyboy_ hahaha yes sir!!!

[@Redstripe921]

But its also easy to get lost in the insane amount of information around now

[@SeanP7195]

I don’t know folks. In the 80s everyone told me one dose of steroids would kill you. Now I see these guys looking great as elderly men. Arnold, Lou, Frank, and Franco all looked amazing as 70 year olds. I also remember getting into full blown arguments with people back then about steroid use. Of course they all used, they had to. It’s like what that one politician who got arrested said, “if you ain’t dirty, you can’t get invited to the party”. No shame in my eyes to be honest.

[@fortnite.burger]

The bodybuilders back then took small doses, and only stuff like test and dbol. Now they're taking huge doses of hgh, insulin, and more

[@theandybchannel.1819]

Wise words, thank you

[@CF2020_RST]

In 1976 he ingested 600-800 amino capsules a day! lol, my lord.

[@fortnite.burger]

Agreed

[@robd1859]

There was a lot of people looked up to Frank Zane before him to sit there and lie to everybody like that. He just lost a lot of fans with that statement. Because we're not goddamn stupid we know you were taking drugs. Because we all have taken them.

[@GM-cm3qc]

How do you eat 200 grams of protein 100 grams of carbs plus some fat and be under 2000 cals. I’m not being critical I would like some help. Thanks

[@Cormac-jd2kx]

Make the math 😂 Calories- 800 protein + 400 carbs + 700 fat

[@billybarnett2846]

I remember him on the episode of Hart to Hart. You don't realize how big he is until he stands to a normal person.

[@ML6103]

His last statement doesn't really make any sense. 'men tend to get prostate cancer as they get older'. I would assume their testosterone levels reduce as they get older? So how does that mean cancer feeds on testosterone?

[@susanmunoz7688]

Still, good advice even for today’s bodybuilding 👍

[@NaturalMeAmerica]

Back in the 70's I knew football players in high school who were taking dianobol. They were big benchers,but skipped leg day,lol

[@CHiKagOo23]

Bro it took you 37 seconds to ask Frank, “What foods did you eat in the off season?” Quit the stuttering, stop using the word “maybe” & “I suppose” and have some confidence mate

[@2Times22]

Oh yea..We forgot you were watching..He didnt know bro..Forgive him..🤣🤣

[@DexterHaven]

Not 6 miles, note well. Six laps, which he ran for cardio in the desert. 1.5 miles at night for legs & cardio. 6:55

[@MUSCOSTAR]

Do this diet as a Natural bodybuilder and then you will create the most disastrous catabolic environment possible. Zane is a legend and one of the greatest, So at certain ages to deny the copious and extended usage of Anabolics our grandparents did during the 70s and 80s is simply a double standard speech that cannot contribute to younger new bodybuilders in the making. Just imagine this diet, the Vince Gironda diet, that Frank, Arnold, Lou did, High protein, LOW - MID CARB - High Fat and just achieving 2000 plus calories only, umm, without anabolics? OMG impossible, and the magic of the PEDs wont take effect with protein synthesis process. Also the lack of carbs would produce a missing ATP (For muscle contraction, strength and lack of fatigue) fuel that only as per Medical journal Data is increased by anabolics, so lack of wisdonm? lack of effort? too lazy to lift? nah, Anabolics do magic in terms of protein synthesis protein so the diet Zane is commenting in here is only possible with the shield of the substances previously describe. All of these incredible guys were on them from Arnold to Lou From Sergio to Steve Reeves. This diet is incredible for maximun definition, incredible vascularity, subcutaneous fat removal, BUT WITH STEROIDS my dear. Now try the opposite!!! the horrible bulking phases of 90s and nowadays without HGH and Insulin and you will turn into a "FATSO" with a layer of water and fat. Our sport is full of double standard and the conspiracy theories about the perfect rep, the HIIT, etc. For Christ Sake. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7346067/#:~:text=During%20aging%2C%20testosterone%20supplementation%20increased,aged%20males%20to%20some%20extent.

[@AjaychinuShah]

The VIBE if you so seek it and trust like YODA did, is double The Entire Platinum Library of UoC.

[@dlvox5222]

Vince Giranda did pretty well on whole eggs. Wouldn’t call him smooth.

[@davidepacini4670]

No way he took in 240g protein without consuming more than 2500 kalories.

[@wijn1008]

Yeah he's full of shite in this interview. 3 soft boiled eggs, avocado. Fish salad, beef salad and a grapefruit. Is all he ate? With 600 amino tablets? 🐒

[@Cormac-jd2kx]

100 g of carbs Now guess they fat needed to make the math 😂 60 g of fat Perfectly possible

[@RelentlessPath]

Sorry I don’t buy that Frank didn’t use steroids in his prime. He looked sharper and better built or had a very similar look with more symmetry than the other top contenders and somehow the rest of them like Arnold that crew did them but Frank didn’t touch them…?

[@fredmiller6482]

Did Zane say the he didn't use "roids"? Because they altered your personality! What! It's common knowledge that there hasn't been a "natural" or "clean" winner of a major BB competition since the early '60's. That's a FACT. Larry Scott used them in '65. Bill Pearl used them for the '61 Mr. Universe. I'm disappointed.

[@arroz1971]

He admitted in another video I watched that he did use steroids in small doses. Weider had all his guys using under a doctor's supervision. This s not a secret.

[@doriangray_1999]

Frank Zane gave a seminar in Sweden in '82 - he breifly mentioned that all Mr. O competitors used some form of anabolics. According to Zane mostly before a show and not in the off-season! Back then (even in Sweden) you could talk openly about steroids!

[@bradleyrobinson7552]

Pretty awesome that Frank Zane has photos of himself all over the walls, in addition to wearing a t-shirt of himself! Right on, Scon! It is one of the greatest physiques of history. That physique is inspiring, even to himself I guess!

[@anthonyharty1732]

Me myself and I, his world is about Frank Zane.

[@cornettejason3398]

I dont think Zane could get that physique with just supplements. LOL

[@manof1kvoices]

mmm did I hear it correctly he claims in the video he did *not* do steroids in his competing years???

[@alanbray3448]

Honest guy, best physique ever,still looks good.

[@carloloturco1659]

Frank, Your The Best

[@boggybigpants9462]

How did he get that much protein from that little food ?

[@bobmac9070]

I have a hard time believing he got to the level of 3x Mr. Olympia not using some gear even if was just low doses of test of done anabolic agent. All those guys back then used something give me a break. 😤 🤔

[@Meshwork123]

Keeping in mind that Zane has quite extraordinary genetics. Look how long the long head of his triceps was when he was in shape for example, the way it would stop three quarters of the way down his humerus on extension. That’s unusual.

[@user-my2se7sn3s]

Yeah just watched this that really annoys me his lie he took roids don't lie not at this age that's pathetic he had the best physique ever they were taking roids somewhen in the 60s he would never have won it without unfortunately you compete in something with non drug testing there all on it just way way more as the years have gone on

[@lobby-3alliance196]

@@Meshwork123 .... Get out of your fantasy land, Zane was on the minimal amount of steroids, just like Arnold, just like Franco Columbo, Boyer Coe and the list goes on, to reach a Mr. Olympia caliber competitive body you needed to go the extra mile and also remember, some of these guys did this as a livelihood through the Weider organization and different other sponsors. The Weider camp in particular !!

[@Meshwork123]

@@lobby-3alliance196 How long is your long head?

[@lobby-3alliance196]

@@Meshwork123 ..... 9" inches smart guy !!!

[@Ragnar-Viking]

Why frank would lie about steriods is baffling