Furiosa Takes Top Spot In Worst Memorial Day Weekend Box Office In 30 Years

The TJCS crew discuss the worst Memorial Day weekend box office in 30 years with Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga taking the top spot.
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[@spicymemes7458]

Poor box office + high praise from critics/audience = #1 on Netflix in 4 months

[@728GT]

😂

[@MatiZ815]

We got a streaming hit in the making.

[@PigeonGoGaming]

Doesn't really hold up, since MADAM WEB was number 1 two weeks ago 😂

[@jeanlouis1898]

Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@MatiZ815]

@@jeanlouis1898 Nonsense.

[@desi_no_aka]

People are spending money but everything also costs more. That data doesn’t go deep enough.

[@AdamPaulStone]

God John how many sips do you need… 😂

[@jforester7]

Pretty classic case of film nerds everywhere hyping up something that the masses just don't really care that much about.

[@jforester7]

@@WillHerren Coming from someone that has zero interest in seeing this movie in the theaters, saying people are wrong simply for not seeing a movie in the theater is pretty silly.

[@jforester7]

@@WillHerren You sound like a blast at parties. lol

[@gibransalazar7769]

Movie was awesome though. Loved it.

[@peterbarreira4729]

"People are spending money" yeah...when big corporations jack up prices and cry "inflation" (while having record profits), of course people are spending more money. Doesn't mean they can afford the luxury of seeing every movie they want to see.

[@Elmgren76]

The statistics show increased spending but that only means people are paying more for less. If I took my family to see 1 film in the cinema, the cost equals my 12 month Disney Plus subscription.

[@lewiscifer999]

💯

[@DarcyOliver]

Campea is clearly forgetting that Fury road was nominated for best Picture and won 7 Oscar’s so that is why we look at it as a hit

[@wadewilson8924]

I figured the main take away was that the average person would think it made more money than it did

[@seanmarquis2216]

Of course spending went up, everything costs way more than it did a few years ago. When necessities wipe out most of your paycheck, you are less likely to blow money on a night out at the movies.

[@lewiscifer999]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@metallicnole4514]

It's not just the cost of watching a movie, but not every movie isn't worth going to the theater for. Especially when we can just wait for it to drop on streaming.

[@Ricardodiaz17762]

That's right but some movies like this and Dune 2 and Planet of the Apes are worth it. When big spectacle movies are released I gotta see it on the biggest or best format possible to me.

[@RavenSylum]

It's not as popular as people think it is. The same goes for Blade Runner...my opinion.

[@Mimcus716]

Furiosa bombing is not like Solo or The Marvels bombing, this is actually a really good film.

[@jdb19]

If you're using a government website to tell you what's happening with the economy instead of using your own eyes and wallet, then you haven't a clue.

[@purekinema]

My wallet's doing fine, does that mean the economy is booming?

[@duncanlandon2328]

Have you ever thought people are spending more because stuff COST MORE. Like come on man use your head

[@johncampea]

Oh dear god.... go back and LISTEN to what the chart was. It wasn't JUST "spending". It was discretionary spending. Do you understand what that means? Maybe listen closer before telling other people to "use your head"

[@duncanlandon2328]

@@johncampea yes, but that includes dining out, streaming services, shopping, and gaming even. All those have rapidly risen the past year. People are becoming more hesitant spending wise. I work at a theatre I hear from our guest all the time

[@schlock159]

People are so much more careful with their wallets considering the way the economy has gone lately. That as well as theatre prizes are skyrocketing. Ticket, snacks and drinks. Going to the movies nowadays is not cheap. 1 + 1 equals 3 in this case.

[@dwnrange7812]

Yes, discretionary spending has gone up over the past few years, but so has individual debt, much more so, which is headed towards a major catastrophe

[@michaeljohnson8868]

The reasons why Furiosa didn't do so well is because: 1. The movie took too long to come out. The last one came out way back in 2015. That's almost TEN years ago. The hype for MM is gone. 2. It's not about Mad Max. People wanted to see a sequel about him. Not a prequel about another character. As good as the movie is It was still a mistake. 3. Mad Max isn't that type of blockbuster that smashes at the box office and the studio knows that. That's why it took so long for this one to get off the ground because they weren't confident enough in the franchise's potential.

[@michaeljohnson8868]

@@davidjames579 and that makes reason Number 4 lol

[@kjhuang]

_Top Gun: Maverick_ didn't have any commercial problems from being released 36 years after the previous one. Time isn't really the issue here.

[@michaeljohnson8868]

@@kjhuang yeah but Top Gun Maverick is a more popular and well known franchise unlike Mad Max so yeah time is a key factor

[@kjhuang]

​@@michaeljohnson8868that's what I was getting at. What matters is the appeal of the franchise, not time. _Furiosa_ probably wouldn't have done that well if it had been released a year after _Fury Road_ . Probably better than how it's doing now, but not blockbuster status.

[@KingOfMadCows]

I think it was mostly the hardcore fans who went to see Furiosa, and there just aren't enough hardcore Mad Max fans. When I went to see it, the IMAX and Dolby theaters were like 80%-90% full, but the regular theaters were 90% empty.

[@dannyjoyce4809]

People just want to watch a mad max film with Max actually in it. The success of deadpool and wolverine 2 months out is proof.

[@kirkt9618]

how is it proof?

[@Null-941]

deadpool & wolverine hasn’t come out yet what drugs are you on

[@ironmaiden3812]

No Mad Max in Mad Max movie

[@graymoon3000]

I thought the guy in the truck was mad max?

[@graymoon3000]

It wasn’t a mad max movie. Lol. They just used the name to get the people in.

[@mywifeleftme9110]

Should’ve cast Mel Gibson. Would’ve made 2x as much at least.

[@OllieOllie-yb1ig]

Everyone knows he’s crazy now 😂

[@johncampea]

Yeah... no. No it really wouldn't have.

[@genreartwithjb5095]

The data doesn’t show otherwise. lol you do realize the median income for a household is like 70 k? Average rent is over 2300 k? How to do you square that circle? People are spending money on food, cars and shelter not vacations or movies or whatever people in your upper income bracket are spending money on John, they are not going on weekly jaunts to Vegas or streaming from their inground pool in the Hollywood hills. They are working multiple jobs living in many cases ( not my case ) in a one bedroom apartment. You need to make 150 k right now to have a shot at buying a house most people make less then half that as a household

[@ThemboCinema]

People are spending because literally everything is more expensive. Even compared to two years ago, I can barely afford to live let alone see a movie every week like I’d wish

[@anthony7697]

Yes - 'discretionary spending is up' - but people don't have the money in cases to go to the movies. Discretionary includes clothing, household goods, personal care, education, internet and data, recreation and entertainment, leisure travel, restaurants, electronics, and home furnishings. And guess what - the prices on most of that are up, and things like clothing, education, in this day and age internet - more important than seeing a movie. It's not like people are blowing money having fun and if they are it's likely on one bigger thing than seeing a movie or it's one movie. This is why you can't just look at a chart and go 'but it says' because it needs more context - one of us is right, but without a further breakdown of where discretionary spending is going, and even then where it goes on recreation and entertainment can't see if it's going there at all or if it's all dumped in to education and clothes. I haven't seen a movie in theaters in years - wanna know why? Because just to get in to an off hours screening of Furiosa or any other movie in the basic, 2D format that's been around for over 100 years will cost me near 20 dollars. And that is before I factor in any form of transportation to get to and from the theater, and god help me if I want a drink let alone a snack. The last time my family went to a movie in the theaters was I think 2015 (can't remember if Force Awakens was the last thing we managed to see in one), and we actually had a meal at a restaurant near the theatre - which was cheaper than the 4 tickets, 3 drinks, and a couple snacks we split. Average domestic ticket price is 25% higher than it was then so the four of us going to see a movie is likely about 110-150 dollar investment - when we can buy that movie and 4+ more new ones on DVD, Blu-Ray or whatever when they come out. Oh - and that price is assuming we can even *FIND* a traditional 2D screening, cause the theatres in the area have been trying to get rid of them and force people to book 3D, IMAX, and all the other insane stuff that costs more to a point just the damn tickets at the cheapest times would be anywhere from 100-150 dollars for all of us, forget about snacks or drinks.

[@arlopear7136]

Rising prices in the overall economy have never solely been the reason people don't go pay to see movies they truly want to see. However you combine that along with the fact that theatrical releases will be on streaming & capable to be watched at home a lot sooner than movies used to be available to watch at home & that's lethal combination for a lot of movies in general.

[@novacane3407]

I think you hit the spot, there’s not a high demand to go see a movie in theater anymore, people would rather stay at home and pick something from the thousands of options they have across their streaming platforms.

[@Maverick-nb3rg]

Movie theater > streaming.

[@pooby887]

Yup. 100%

[@Themoomabides]

Women lead action films (Kill Bill films, Aliens) tend to make $22-25 million opening weekend. Plus, Hemsworth only adds to films when he’s Thor. So you have an upcoming star leading a tough genre for women to lead. But time will create classic status, as it is very good and might get a few tech awards down the line.

[@ejr87r]

Mad Max are great movies, but not financial juggernauts. Alot of film fans think they are, but actually aren't.

[@mrcritical6751]

They’re underground successes that received enough cult status that the general public know what they are, but they don’t go out of their way to find

[@RAK_Media]

Because streaming is killing the movie theatres. Why spend 60 bucks out at a theatre when the movie is just going to be streaming in 6 weeks anyway, plus most people have theatre-like set ups in their homes anyway that rival theatres. When We all pay hundreds for 98 streaming services in our homes offering thousands of hours of content, I'd rather just stay home and watch a movie and wait for this to hit streaming in 6 weeks. Theatres are a dying fad.

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

Brand new movies shouldn’t be put on a streaming service until a year after its release.

[@RAK_Media]

@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 I'd say 6 months. Back in the vhs days, i remember movies would hit rental about 6 months later then cable about another 6 months after that

[@WillHerren]

I’m sorry but unless someone is really wealthy and has a legitimate theatre screen in their house, a Nice TV and surround sound doesn’t come close to the theatrical experience.

[@Ricardodiaz17762]

​@@WillHerrenExactly! I have a big tv and surround sound and I'll pick IMAX or Dolby everytime. When I see any big spectacle movie for the first time it's gotta be IMAX or Dolby.

[@beltenebrosgr1904]

Hopefully word of mouth will save Furiosa and give a chance for a next George Miller Mad Max movie.

[@matthewmartinez6922]

Mad max has always had a niche target audience. I feel like fury road was the same way

[@BensTechTube]

WTF are they calling it Mad Max, WITHOUT MAD MAX!?!

[@planktonscollective7129]

You dont seem to have a clue about economics. If the expenditures are higher, given the economic climate now, it indicates an inflation. So people spend more on necessities, while income remains the same( or even less), so they have to cut all the unnecessary expenditures, for example movies

[@SpiderC-666]

Wealth transfer translates to no trip to the movie.

[@jeanlouis1898]

Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@tegridygone6185]

especially when people are already paying monthly for streaming services

[@alfeocayabyab8233]

People are spending more money because they have to.

[@matiasdevaglia4541]

1) It's a prequel for a movie not many people watched to begin with and wasn't so universally loved as we would like to believe. 2) It stars none of the actors of that previous film 3) It's an action film lead by a woman, something that is an instantaneous "red flag" for many in this regressive political climate. 4) There's a lot of talk in social media about how this film is "filled with horrible CGI". I hope "Furiosa" has legs in cinemas and becomes a streaming success, because the film and George Miller deserve it.

[@adammohamed..]

Many people have watched Fury Road , it made 380m and you have DVD and streaming since 2015 to watch it. And 97% RT score speaks for itself

[@Dear_9000]

Stop coping. To call it a mad max saga with mad max will never be financially good cause audiences are smart spenders now....

[@andresarias3178]

The pandemic fckd the movie theaters. Personally I prefer watching movies at home. Spending money on movie theaters just to end up sitting next to or around ppl with NO movie etiquette is a gamble I don't want to take. It RUINS the movie for me and the whole experience. Unless I'm guaranteed a good experience I'm not spending money going to the movies. PPL SUCK.

[@thundercron77]

Always interesting when financially secure upper-income folks break out the charts to tell us peons the economy is fine, and inflation isn't real. Put the chart down, John. Go to your local grocery store and talk to people.

[@graymoon3000]

Agreed the economy is nowhere near fine. It’s pocket draining every day lol. I don’t people are spending money. Less people are paying more lol

[@davidliskey3553]

Things hit VOD too fast, people will just wait the 3 weeks unless it's something that can can be heavily spoiled. I only go because I have Regal unlimited

[@jeanlouis1898]

Facts…there’s no point in wasting money at a theatre when I can watch the same movie at movie in a month 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@puma12345ace]

The worst thing about it is that this will probably stop any real Mad Max sequels from being made ....

[@hulkbeast8759]

They should have made a sequel Mad Max instead of furiosa

[@amandadepaulaarantes6572]

​@@hulkbeast8759I agree.

[@mutajrjr1970]

The made two movies nobody asked for and headlined them for memorial day. Its ok to be critical of the big houses that run hollywood d

[@naofumiiwatani1763]

Furious has a $168 million production budget. A $25 million opening weekend is likely a flop. Including overseas it grossed a total of only $65 million. Not sure if it will have legs to at least break even since it's not a family movie. And women are not fond of this kind of movie.

[@AFGgamerdogs]

John defending this movie with all his life even though the budget of this movie was bigger then fury road

[@ahmadsafwan278]

defending it from what..?

[@jeanlouis1898]

Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@khun_le]

It’s a shame because Furiosa is absolutely fantastic. It is one of those movies from 2024 that deserves to be seen on the biggest screen possible. I hope it is not another Edge of Tomorrow situation.

[@brealll9647]

The problem with the box office is because people know these movies will be released within a month on digital. I had intentions to watch 3 movies in the theater and by the time I had the time to go, they had been released on digital. Dune 2, The fall guy and the new hunger game games. These stupid studios are cutting off a major revenue stream by releasing so soon smh.

[@Reformedmoviegeek]

As a family of three, I’m not paying $25 a ticket for IMAX when I can buy it for $25 on VOD in three weeks and see it on my big screen.

[@WillHerren]

Bro has never heard of a movie theater membership.

[@Reformedmoviegeek]

@@WillHerren I looked into the Regal membership, but we live 40 minutes from the nearest participating theater. Best price tier is $18.99 plus tax per membership. For a family of three that math doesn’t math in the long run.

[@WillHerren]

@@Reformedmoviegeek you have a local IMAX that’s not associated with AMC or Regal?

[@v8rmusic406]

Because everything is more expensive. Thats why they're spending more money dummy. They're paying more for less, so now they have to cut certain spending habits. (Theatres,rec, etc)

[@nathanthomas5133]

The Fall Guy also got great reviews & is on VOD 2 weeks after its cinema release, Furiosa will be on VOD very soon too. The cinema experience isn’t what it used to be so maybe people are happy to wait a few weeks, save some money & just watch at home.

[@kevinpakkala3721]

I think it really has to do with Streeming. It's gonna be available on my big TV with killer sound in 45 days for a lot cheaper. I get so see it in the comfort of my own home with my buddies and the food we like that's cheaper and better then the than the theater food. Plus I was tired this weekend from all the other stuff I did. That made me nit want to go to a theater thus particular weekend. I do wanna see this movie. Just don't feel like any movie at the times because of so much else I have to do.

[@arbisangria8933]

If u like killer sound, go see it in dolby, the motor sounds will shake your seats

[@GB-sz2tg]

used to be six months at least .. to be able to watch it at home now it’s just a few weeks .. that’s why I don’t bother going .

[@kishenchohan1286]

its offically out on 25th June on Vod, so a month

[@rocoz23]

Does he count the cost of inflation? Comparing a 2015 Mad Max movie to Black Adam 2022

[@johncampea]

You only count inflation if you also count all the other factors. For example, when Fury Road came out it didn't have to compete against streaming like Black Adam did. Plus a million other variables. You can't just cherry pick one variable (like inflation) while ignoring the other ones.

[@etherieeetheriee1636]

The easy n real answer is movie tickets cost too much now days

[@johncampea]

Ok.... but the ticket prices were the same for Mario, Barbie and Oppenheimer all pretty much hitting a Billion dollars. So I'm not sure the answer is that easy.

[@Eclipsed972]

@@johncampea Their point is it’s a matter of choosing which film to justify spending money on ticket prices. Audiences have been trained to wait for movies to hit streaming and unless it’s a must see, they are less likely to go to the movies. For the average person, going to see a lot of movies when the prices have gotten expensive is not encouraging

[@etherieeetheriee1636]

@@johncampea yes correct.Every movie isnt going to end in a dissapointment. You are going to have a few hits and you named a few of them. Most are not hitting their numbers because people are being more selective now. Thats where the expense of tickets hurt the box office as a whole.

[@etherieeetheriee1636]

@@Eclipsed972 Thank you sir, for understanding my perspective. You are spot on.

[@mauditebalvenie]

@@Eclipsed972I also think they miscast Furiosa

[@darthmalius]

That’s a nice chart John, but it’s missing important data such as demographics and class. The divide between the class is still growing. That means the spending isn’t in the hands of the average movie goer. There is also a lot of news articles now about Recession spending, that even with the data saying people are making more the feeling of being in a recession is still there. Add that to streaming squeezing harder and harder for the services at home (regardless of your beliefs in the benefits vs expense calculus) and you get less money going to the movies with exceptions like huge experience spectacles like Deadpool and Wolverine.

[@liferealgood]

I thought the movie was pretty good. Furiosa was written back in the 80s or 90s I think. People need to stop being so butthurt about it centered around a woman. This isn’t some new Hollywood trend.

[@73richg]

I hardly use my A List membership now. I just don’t feel like going to the theater anymore. Before they started locking places down I was maxing out my A List membership. Damn pandemic got me used to staying at home. Plus I get explosive diarrhea. Public explosive diarrhea can ruin a man… lol

[@MatiZ815]

Mad Max isn't a big franchise so a long overdue prequel spin off about a different character who's not even played by the same actress as before never had very good odds at success. Hopefully it has some legs.

[@tamerj94]

Does that chart to account for inflation? Like people are spending more but everything costs more. When it comes to rent, insurance, groceries, gas, etc. So people may be spending more but do people have more “free” money to spend it on movies and other sources of entertainment?

[@tamerj94]

My bad. Chart says “Discretionary spending” on it but still. Inflation. More money is being spent but is it getting spent on more things?

[@eugenegreer5627]

Why do we keep blaming the movie for the performances? Its simple, people are not going to the movies anymore because it is too expensive!! The movies used to be a casual thing that people would do with their date or families a couple of weekends out of a month. Now its too expensive to just casually attend a movie. A movie needs to be an event now to get people out in bunches. P.s. i don't care what some "data" says, we are real people around other real people and this is how real people are feeling.

[@johncampea]

Movie tickets were the exact same price when Barbie, Mario and Oppenheimer all pretty much made a BILLION dollars each. So I"m not sure that's the problem.

[@alfredopr923]

​@@johncampea Those movies have an IP with strong loyalty: most grew up with Mario and Barbie. Oppenheimer is an outlier that benefitted from the Barbenheimer boom and the huge following of Nolan fans. Studios need to stop having these huge budgets or they Will lose money.

[@davidliskey3553]

​@@johncampeathere will be a couple big movies, no doubt, but overall ticket sales are down. Dan Murrell has charts showing this every week

[@discoveringthei]

Discretionary spending goes up because cost of goods went up. Look at that chart, things stayed stagnant from 2014 to 2020 where it dipped, then it started climbing dramatically. People aren't buying more. They're spending but getting less.

[@kmartx0159]

Stop making pointless prequels that nobody asked for.

[@andrewbaileyMKU]

Facts 💯💯💯

[@loganman2010]

Furiousa was amazing

[@imagerydiversions6127]

Movie was amazing it tied into fury road really well. I didn't ask for it either but boy am I glad they made it. Imax trust me do yourself a favor and watch it don't listen to the extremist.

[@andrewbaileyMKU]

@imagerydiversions6127 nahhh, it's trash. I just watched it. That girl's big bug eyes killed it for me. They should just put Max in the Mad Max movie.

[@loganman2010]

@@andrewbaileyMKU go watch your trash superhero films

[@yaboicatman]

This movie was incredible and shows mad max is one of the best franchises out there hope they can make more

[@TailspinMedia]

If you’re going to look at yearly discretionary spending, you need to account for inflation.

[@MissJacktoyou]

Yeah my kids dont have discretionary spending that same as I did at their age of 20. All my friends are spending money on experiecnces rather than movies. I am already spending a fortune to watch these same movies on the 100 streaming services that I have.

[@728GT]

The Mad Max brand cant put butts in seats. Its not a box office draw like people who gush over Fury Road think it is and making another one about a side character was a bad move.

[@SonnyFrisco]

Consumer spending has gone up because things cost more. People are not WILLINGLY spending more. So honestly the old metrics we used to judge how well the economy is doing just don't apply anymore. People are HURT.

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

Such a phenomenal film too. Very upsetting numbers. The action was amazing in this movie 🔥

[@DarthKilaj85]

The issue is they made a movie about a secondary character that people liked but didn't like enough for enough people to want a movie done about.

[@lesterjohnson2691]

This movie was dope though

[@coventryterrier5751]

How many flops is that now for Chris Hemsworth? No wonder he keeps jumping back to the Thor movies, they are the only movies of his that don’t flop. The guy just isn’t a bankable star to sell a movie. Ghostbusters, Men in Black, Snow White, In the Heart of the Sea, Blackhat, Furiosa and the list goes on.

[@chaddubois8164]

Ya I don't get it. I think he's great.

[@BigJim5754]

Discretionary spending may be up but imo and personal life, with all the streaming services we all pretty much have now we know almost any movie in theater will be available in our home within 6 months or less. Then toss in the fact that a lot of the big tent pole movies in last couple years like Black Adam, Quantimania, all sony marvel movies except Spiderverse, have been really really bad. If the quality of product declines it hurts the whole industry, even if other movie projects are good.

[@Roman-tu3vh]

I agree with John, Furiosa movie should be continuation of Fury Road with Charlize, maybe Godfather 2 it, to include ATJ in flashbacks. Also it needed to came out like 2-3 years after Fury Road while iron still hot, because i don't think that Furiosa was established enoght character to have her own prequel with different lead in a movie, that came out almost ten years after it predeccessor.

[@lesterjohnson2691]

It’s a shame such a good movie and wish it did well so they would expand the stories.

[@lilth501]

20/30 years ago people went to the movies whether they like the movie or not. Going to the cinema was an event that you shared with friends and family, where the critiques occurred thereafter.

[@MartynParsonage]

People do the same thing but at home with likes of Netflix

[@TheFilmGuyOfficial]

its a prequal to a MadMax movie without mad max and that movie didn't do that well financially and on top of that its a different actress. I think if this movie came out 2x years after fury road it would have done better but it has so much against it.

[@theebonymaw]

your take sounds correct. a change in actress is a huge deal. Furiousa as a charater is popular but i'm sure there were a lot of people who were in it for Charlize.

[@TheFilmGuyOfficial]

@@theebonymaw recasting the actress also is quite weird when you consider the ending.

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

How long until the movie is put on streaming? A month? Two months? This is the problem nowadays. Movies hardly get a good run in the theatres. People just wait until it’s on some streaming service. Would Avengers Endgame had made the money it did if Disney+ existed in 2019 and people knew the movie was going to be on there two weeks later? No it wouldn’t.

[@bobbyleonard1080]

He of course doesn't mention the fact that the marketing makes it look like yet another GIRL BOSS MOVIE, and audiences are SICK of girl bosses.

[@DominiqueSpikes-i1t]

Streaming killed the Movie Star

[@w10u1sg]

People are spending more because things costs more. The movie going experience is more expensive than ever and theater etiquette is at an all time low. Also, a "Mad Max Saga" film that doesn't have Mad Max in it might be a factor as well.

[@evanaguilar6763]

people are not spending more things are more expensive

[@johncampea]

Do you understand what discretionary spending means?

[@davidliskey3553]

Everything that is discretionary is more expensive, so people have to choose. They can VOD at minimum 3 movies for the cost of a family of 4 to see one

[@schlock159]

@@davidliskey3553EXACTLY !. Amen.

[@tyroneholmes6354]

A mad max movie without mad max. I really wanted another mad max movie after Fury road and was annoyed when I heard they'd do a prequel not focused on the main character. Furiosa is great but I remember really wanting to see what happens to mad max next

[@mutajrjr1970]

John.....People have the money to go to the movies , but people also know the value add is waiting a month and just getting it on digital once you go to the movies you have nothing to show for it.

[@tigerbalm666]

Maybe 2nd weekend can be gud after word of mouth? I NEVER go 1st weekend as you cannot get a gud seat and smelly crowded theatres...

[@kenbozu1]

Could it be that since this is Memorial Day weekend, a lot of folks are attending high school graduations and the parties afterwards?

[@sayheyguy]

I really enjoyed Furiosa, it was action packed, I really liked Chris Hemsworth in his role, and I think the story was superior to Fury Road. It's a shame it underperformed.

[@swallowtheanchor]

Furiosa opened in the UK at the weekend. I booked my seating in advance thinking that the cinema would be packed out. My wife and I watched it on a Sunday afternoon. Four people in total were at the screening, which included us. Incredible!!!

[@Abhisheksengupta923]

In india, I watched with 20 people! only!

[@planktonscollective7129]

That's interesting. In Ireland we watched on Saturday evening and it was packed...in a large IMax screening 80% seats were occupied. And it wasn't even in a cinema in the city center

[@jeanlouis1898]

Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@juanluismendoza8655]

I can think of two other reasons why the movie didn’t do as well as we thought. 1) They waited too long for this movie. Fury Road came out in 2015. I think it’s absurd that George Miller decided to wait until now for another film in this franchise and it’s a prequel. I know part of that had to do with that lawsuit against Warner Bros but they still took too much time. 2) I know he wanted to make this Furiosa movie for a while but I almost think it’s kind of unnecessary. One could make the argument that Fury Road already was a Furiosa film. Even though it has Tom Hardy as Max, Furiosa stole the movie so one could watch Fury Road and think it’s a Furiosa film. Plus, I feel Fury Road already told us the most important details of Furiosa’s story in a way that it makes a prequel redundant. After all, what could a Furiosa prequel film tells us that Fury Road already did?

[@dillonjohnson52]

People are acting like Mad Max is this huge franchise, when it never was. Fantastic films, but most of the general audiences don't give a sh*t

[@mythicalmetal]

I love movies, but I only see 3 a year in the theaters. Deadpool 3 will be one of them. - At age 52, with my eye-sight, my 70 inch 4k Samsung and sound system is just as good as a theater. - Movies hit pay per view in less than 2 months. - I have a movie server with enough films to last a lifetime. - I also make pretty good popcorn at home. Why should I go?

[@Regenmacher175]

I never cared about box office numbers because good films can be financial failures and garbage films can make lots of money. Box office numbers say absolutely nothing about a film's artistic quality. Plus, people don't have as much disposable income nowadays so maybe if cinemas want to see big box office returns they should lower ticket prices.

[@Regenmacher175]

@@AM-dk3wy Nah, mate. They don't matter to anyone other than to greedy studio execs. I just want a good movie.

[@JuanSandoval-qb8bl]

They do matter because the studio's only care about making money and not losing movie. If the movie is really good but doesn't make money then why is the studio going to use more money on a franchise that is costing them hundreds of millions of dollars? Say what you want but in order for studios to spend there money movie franchises they have to believe the movie will make money.

[@Regenmacher175]

@@AM-dk3wy I am an audience member, not a studio executive. The box office means nothing to me.

[@Regenmacher175]

@@JuanSandoval-qb8bl I don't want franchises, I want good films. I am happy if good films do well but I will not hold a bad box office performance against a film.

[@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27]

​@@Regenmacher175well first of all furiosa is a franchise film and second if good films won't money why producers would invest in good films

[@TopThrillJustin]

I think you’re spot on as to why, except for one more point - this prequel came out about 7 years too late.

[@Shot_Geek]

No mention of the fact people are fed up with and are avoiding ‘girl boss’ films and tv? Weird.

[@jeanlouis1898]

The girl boss thing has little to do with it…Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@Shot_Geek]

@@jeanlouis1898 your mistaking my comment for a ‘single problem’ I simply stated that it’s not in the conversation on this video when it’s a massive reason. Not the only reason.

[@728GT]

1. People are tired of prequels 2. A mad Max movie about someone other than Mad fkng Max. Doomed from the start.

[@andrewoldham3675]

Another thing hurting box office for anything these days really, besides Furiosa, is the shortened theatrical window. What I don’t get is why the theaters aren't doing something about it. After all, studios know that if movie theaters die, then streaming services and PVOD also die. Theaters know that as well. That's why I think one thing that needs to happen, especially when films like Spider-Man: No Way Home, Top Gun: Maverick, Jurassic World: Dominion, The Super Mario Bros. Movie, and Barbie proving that films can still be billion dollar hits IF STUDIOS WOULD BOTHER TO LET THEM PLAY WITH LONGER THEATRICAL WINDOWS, then why NATO (National Association of Theater Owners) and all the theater chains that make up NATO don’t collectively put their foot down and give the studios an ultimatum: extend the theatrical window back to six months to a year or we will refuse to screen your film slate. As in, NATO has the chance to grab the studios' collective balls in a vicegrip if they do that. NATO needs to buck up, grow a pair, and demand the studios knock off that three or four weeks in theaters and then on PVOD and streaming services crap. That would help a major way in terms of box office recovery, doesn't mean it will magically make every film a billion dollar box office hit, but it will help more films perform better. Also, bring back physical media and movie rental store chains like Blockbuster Video. Seriously, with streaming and PVOD struggling, if I had the capital to, I would invest in Blockbuster Video into helping them start opening new locations again, outside of the last one currently in Bend, Oregon. Like, wouldn't that be a hilarious ironic comeback, especially after the stupid shit that the Netflix founder keeps saying and doing?

[@joeking88]

For me personally in a lot of cases I really want to go to the cinema but then I remember I need to drive then, then find parking, then watch 30 mins worth of adverts (really hate that) at which point I can watch the film. Instead I think I can wait a month of two then get it when it comes to vod and watch it in my own home with no ads. Helps aswell when films seem to be coming to vod more quickly than ever.

[@jeanlouis1898]

Facts…Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@thedarkknight2221]

People aren’t going to the movie theaters because it’s too expensive, because movie studios spend so much money on budgets for their movies they do not net a good enough return so they charge movie theaters more. Films like Everything, Everywhere, All At Once and Godzilla Minus One proved that you can have movies with truly top tier visual effects and practical sets. Now Hollywood needs to adopt that model. Or else theaters truly will become endangered.

[@ryanhoskins1570]

For me A Mad Max movie without Mad Max is like watching a Robin movie. Nobody really wants that they all want to see Batman. For me personally I feel like this movie would have done a lot better not being attached to Mad Max. It should have been its own new IP and then people would have said this is what Mad Max should have been. That would have given it a different narrative. Also Mad Max franchise is not as popular as people think. The industry has a budget problem the last movie made $380 million and this one was budgeted for $168 million. That’s a budget problem.

[@SleepingTroubles]

I see your point but as for your example... I mean, I would definitely watch a Robin movie as long as it's a seasoned one and not an origin story, it could be an interesting look in the b tier characters overshadowed in the universe. And no, doesn't need to be a Nightwing movie. Even better it could be the codename for he actually building up the Teen Titans by the end of the movie. I mean, if they go that route, they could definitely do a single Robin movie just for that, a view of this side of the universe with the bonus of building up a Teen Titans future movie. If it's Damian Wayne they can also make a Super Sons movie with Johnathan Kent

[@jeanlouis1898]

It wouldn’t have mattered, theatres are dying…Hollywood needs to realize that most ppl in general don’t care about going to the theatre to see a movie anymore…why spend so much money to go to the movies when it will be VOD streaming in about a month so I can watch it with my entire family at home? COVID broke something that Hollywood can’t fix

[@gwell2118]

I am not worried about this film. I can easily see this film legging it out over the next few weeks. If it can have a good follow-up week it will probably be fine. I am not calling it quits on it yet.

[@Ricardodiaz17762]

Yeah, you can call it quits now. Bigger and more movies are coming out soon. By the time Deadpool and Wolverine come out this will available to buy and rent then a month after that it will be on Max.

[@TheWaynos73]

Box office success doesn’t always scream ‘great movie’ though - Rise of Skywalker took well over a Billion at the box office and that movie was a dumpster fire - yet a masterpiece like The Shawshank Redemption tanks completely.

[@ps2progamer814]

Yeah, nobody said that

[@heatherbukowski2102]

idk dune 2 is pretty bleak but obviously made crazy good numbers

[@maxsonly]

I enjoyed the movie. Fury Road is still better in my opinion, but I had good time with Furiosa. Sucks it's doing so poorly in the box office.

[@AndyDandyMandy]

Mad Max Fury Road is an absolute masterpiece and it didn't do great box office when it was released nine years ago. This is not really a "franchise" that can support spinoffs and prequels. Why is anyone surprised this isn't doing well in an age where audiences know new movies will be available to rent on Amazon for roughly the same price. There was no hype or desire for a Furiosa movie to begin with.

[@andrewcai5042]

I loved it! People don't realize how the WB court case messed up the timing of the schedule. If Furiosa was released closer to Fury Road it would have capitalized more on the hype, I admit by how much is debatable; however no one can discount that it would have not suffered anywhere near as much production issues. George Miller had to contend with so many behind the scenes problems which were OUT OF HIS CONTROL! Actors passing away, retirement, location shooting issues, recasting and much more probably.

[@sriver004]

Idk maybe it's just me but going to the movies recently has just become such a luxury considering how expensive everything else has become, I haven't gone in months and I love going to the movies. I wait for them to hit streaming or rent for the most part, the only movie I actively wanted to prepare for and got tickets is Deadpool and Wolverine. I'm trying to remember if I've even gone to the movies this year

[@chuckiff]

Your over thinking it. Furiosa did poor because nobody knows who Anya Taylor-Joy is. Us movie fans need to get of our bubble and realize average movie goes still need stars on the screen. ATJ is a star that's still on the rise. She's not a leading lady yet.

[@daveclark8337]

Freya Allen was the star of the latest Planet of the Apes and at it opened with $58 million. I'm in the reverse: I know who Anya T-J is and that's why I didn't rush out to see it.